Mustafa Umar – From Islam to Atheism then Back to Islam

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The speaker discusses their experience with Islam, including their desire to understand the concept and desire to pray in English. They also talk about their initial negative reaction to the Quran and becoming skeptical of Islam. They eventually become a Muslim and become a member of a group where they want to go to nightclubs and party clubs. They also discuss their struggles with life and losing money, as well as their desire to be open and love all creation. They emphasize the importance of learning to change oneself and establish a proper understanding of Islam, as it helps them establish a proper understanding of Islam and achieve the ultimate meaning behind belief. They recommend attending a online or live class for better understanding of Islam and encourage viewers to make a donation to support The Dean Show.

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			Welcome back to the d show special guest,
		
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			Sheikh Mustafa. Assalamu alaikum. Peace be with you.
		
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			How are you?
		
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			Excellent. How are you? Now you are good.
		
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			You aren't always
		
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			in a position where you're at. You're actually
		
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			educating people, teaching people the purpose of life,
		
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			inviting people to have a relationship with the
		
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			one who created creation,
		
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			but you are actually
		
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			fighting against it as an atheist. But you
		
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			are Muslim first. So you are Muslim Yes.
		
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			Carrying Bukhadi,
		
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			the books of Bukhadi on your back. Yes.
		
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			And then you took a philosophy class
		
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			and my face. The story takes off from
		
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			there. Let's go back it up now. Let's
		
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			let's let's talk from the beginning a little
		
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			bit. Give us some highlights how it all
		
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			started. Yes, I mean I grew up in
		
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			a Muslim family, you can say, not very
		
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			practicing, a little bit more cultural than Muslim.
		
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			We kind of went for, you know, Friday
		
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			prayers.
		
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			Sometimes we fasted Ramadan, but that's pretty much
		
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			it. So didn't really have that many Islamic
		
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			teachings.
		
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			Went to Sunday school, didn't pay attention, didn't
		
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			really understand what was going on there. No
		
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			one was really interested in that. So I
		
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			kind of grew up that way. Islam was
		
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			just something like as part of a culture.
		
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			We didn't understand what was going on. And
		
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			then in my junior year of high school,
		
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			we took a trip to Makkah and we
		
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			went for the Umrah,
		
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			the minor pilgrimage.
		
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			And that was just seeing a different world
		
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			for me. That just changed things completely. So
		
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			there
		
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			I go into a bookstore and I'm seeing
		
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			the Kaaba. I'm seeing, you know, Makkah, the
		
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			people there, hearing the adhan, the call to
		
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			prayer on a regular basis. A lot of
		
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			emotions there. A lot of emotions there. It's
		
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			like just a different society. Never seen anything
		
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			like this in my life, you know, and
		
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			I've traveled a lot
		
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			and walk into a bookstore and they got
		
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			actually like, you know I see Islamic books
		
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			for the first time in my life. I
		
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			see translations of hadith, the statements of the
		
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			Prophet peace be upon him. I see translations
		
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			of the Quran and I was like you
		
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			know what I can investigate this. I can
		
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			you know learn more about this. So I
		
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			buy a translation of the Quran.
		
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			I buy a Sahih al Bukhari, you know,
		
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			a collection of sayings of the prophet peace
		
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			be upon him. 9 volumes
		
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			carry it back with me on the airplane.
		
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			I say, you know, I'm gonna try to
		
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			learn about this religion of mine. I'm gonna
		
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			gonna find out if it's the truth or
		
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			not.
		
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			So I come back. I start reading
		
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			and I start, you know, appreciating Islam. I
		
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			see I'm gonna find this out find out
		
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			on my own
		
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			what is Islam? What is this thing that
		
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			I was raised on supposedly? What is this
		
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			all supposed to mean?
		
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			And
		
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			I started becoming more interested. I say, you
		
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			know, this seems like it's the truth. I
		
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			started comparing what I know about Hinduism. I
		
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			said, you know,
		
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			I can't worship a statue, you know, something
		
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			like that. I heard a thing about Christianity.
		
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			I can't believe that, you know, like a
		
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			man is gonna be God. Judaism
		
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			that's I'm not even I don't have the
		
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			right blood in me you know so these
		
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			things don't work for me. I see Islam
		
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			is the thing that kind of makes sense
		
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			you know if we're going to believe in
		
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			God that's like the the religion which I
		
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			can consider
		
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			so I start getting more and more, you
		
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			know, learning about Islam on my own reading
		
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			the Quran, reading these books of hadith,
		
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			and
		
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			I start to have like an appreciation for
		
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			Islam. Did you have a teacher? Did you
		
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			have someone giving you some direction? So that
		
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			was the issue. So I did not have
		
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			a teacher And one of the reasons why
		
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			I didn't have a teacher is, you know,
		
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			everyone I had met, they seemed to be
		
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			very
		
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			more cultural than
		
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			Islamic or Muslim.
		
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			So I don't know who to go to
		
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			for for knowledge. I go to the mosque.
		
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			I hear the sermon. It seems like very
		
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			emotional. Person has a very thick accent. I'm
		
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			really not interested in this. I'm going to
		
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			figure this all out all on my own.
		
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			No direction? No direction. I'm going to read
		
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			the text. Whatever I think the text means,
		
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			doesn't matter what they're saying in the book.
		
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			That's what the way I'm going to take
		
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			it. How about from family? How much direction
		
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			did you get from papa and mama? See,
		
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			the thing is, you know, they may say
		
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			a few things here and there, but it's
		
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			all mixed with Islam and culture mixed. A
		
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			lot of culture. A lot of culture, and
		
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			I'm very I'm not into culture because for
		
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			me it's like, you know, if I don't
		
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			understand why this is happening, I don't wanna
		
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			follow something blindly. How was your basic understanding
		
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			of, let's say, the the pure monotheism, Islam?
		
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			The the tohid, the fundamental belief system. How
		
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			was that? You know,
		
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			I probably understood that there's one god. That
		
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			that was pretty clear. But anything beyond that
		
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			God's attributes and
		
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			you know, even even the idea of, you
		
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			know, belief in angels and things which are
		
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			unseen So the fundamental, the core was not
		
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			there? Not really there. Not really. Yeah. So
		
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			I'm reading these books and I'm I'm getting
		
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			interested.
		
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			I'm learning more and I'm thinking, hey, this
		
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			is,
		
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			this seems to make sense. I start, you
		
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			know, I started questioning a lot of things.
		
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			So I said, you know what? Let me
		
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			start praying because I I think we know
		
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			I know we should pray but it doesn't
		
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			make sense to pray in Arabic because I
		
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			don't even know what I'm saying, you know.
		
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			And even if I read what I'm saying
		
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			the translation, I tried doing Arabic and then
		
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			translating in English. I'm like, This is distracting
		
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			me. Let me just start praying in English.
		
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			So I just started praying in English. Seems
		
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			like it's not a bad idea. It seems
		
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			like a good idea. According to your logic.
		
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			Yeah. At least at least, you know, for
		
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			me, maybe it was a little bit arrogant
		
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			at the time but at least I I
		
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			understand what I'm saying. And all the people
		
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			around me, maybe my parents, my friends, family,
		
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			they're saying all these formulas
		
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			but they don't even know what they're saying.
		
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			Right? Many of them don't even bother to
		
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			read the translation. So I feel like, hey,
		
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			at least I'm connecting with God on on
		
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			a deeper level because I know what I'm
		
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			saying. So I'm doing this I'm praying in
		
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			English.
		
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			I'm kind of praying while I'm driving if
		
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			I'm getting late somewhere. Hey, it's better than
		
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			you know and God should accept for me.
		
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			At least I'm doing better than what I
		
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			was doing before. So I'm kind of you
		
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			know feeling good about this kind of having
		
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			some you know positive healthy pride in Islam.
		
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			Start discussing debating with my friends. Come on.
		
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			You guys got to believe in God. Look
		
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			at the Quran. This is you know this
		
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			is a miracle. Start getting very very happy
		
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			about you know being a Muslim
		
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			and
		
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			that's when you know I started you know
		
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			almost got to a point where I saw
		
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			some things within hadith that I was reading
		
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			and I got and I say you know
		
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			what some of these hadith seem just very
		
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			strange They don't seem to make sense to
		
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			me. They don't they don't seem to be
		
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			as, like, rational as I was seeing in
		
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			the Quran.
		
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			So I got to a point where I
		
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			came across a website called, like, the submitters
		
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			or something like that. They basically said we
		
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			don't need to accept these hadith. Hadith has
		
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			all this weird stuff going on. Just remove
		
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			this hadith, just go with the Quran only.
		
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			So I basically got into that movement or
		
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			that group intellectually
		
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			on online,
		
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			and I just said, you know, let's just
		
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			focus on the Quran. Some hadith are nice
		
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			but some are weird. I don't understand them
		
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			really. I'm just gonna stick to the Quran.
		
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			What happened was I go to college,
		
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			get accepted to UC Irvine,
		
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			decide to take a class on philosophy.
		
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			Walk into that class on philosophy and the
		
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			professor starts talking about, you know,
		
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			how people believe in so many strange things
		
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			today. You know, you guys grew up believing
		
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			in the tooth fairy. You grew up believing
		
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			in Santa
		
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			Claus. Your parents had tricked you about these
		
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			things. And I'm like, yeah. That's true, man.
		
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			My parents, you know, I remember the tooth
		
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			fairy. I was, you know, tricked into believing
		
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			in the Santa Claus for a while, Halloween,
		
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			all that stuff. And then he said, how
		
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			many of you still believe in that? Everyone's
		
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			like, come on. We don't believe in that.
		
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			And then he threw the bomb and he
		
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			goes, how many of you still believe in
		
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			God?
		
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			And that's where I was just like,
		
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			you know, do I raise my hand? Do
		
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			I not raise my hand? So is anybody
		
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			raising their hand at this moment? Nobody raises
		
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			their hand except one guy who is the
		
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			weird Christian missionary guy who like everyone hated.
		
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			He's just like seems like mentally deficient or
		
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			something like that, you know. So something's wrong
		
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			with this guy. So I raised my hand.
		
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			I'm like, okay. I do believe in God
		
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			and just me and him and no one
		
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			else in the class,
		
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			and I just that was just like a
		
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			moment for me. I'm like, am I like
		
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			this guy?
		
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			Am I the only one? Like what's The
		
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			pressure's on now. Really? The pressure's on. Sweating.
		
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			Really? I'm thinking
		
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			what what have I been raised on? You
		
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			know, I thought that everyone believes in God,
		
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			and I grew up believing like this, and
		
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			that just questioned my faith, and it just
		
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			it just it just changed my entire perception,
		
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			and everything just went downhill from there. I
		
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			became super skeptical,
		
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			and I got to a point from agnosticism
		
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			not knowing if there's God to basically sliding
		
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			down into atheism and saying, you know what?
		
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			God doesn't exist. All this religion is man
		
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			made. It's all, you know, it's it's all
		
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			just hodgepodge. Something of the past, we need
		
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			to get away from it. We got a,
		
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			a Muslim who left Islam,
		
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			and
		
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			this is a very sad situation. I'm sure
		
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			many have been affected by this. You actually
		
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			went through it. The story doesn't stop there.
		
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			We got more. When we come back, don't
		
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			go anywhere. Islam says love all mankind that's
		
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			Back here on the d show, Muslim leaves
		
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			Islam.
		
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			I don't see your heads off yet.
		
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			Not yet. Did anybody come come with a
		
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			machete looking for you? No. They did not.
		
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			Okay. Actually. Because,
		
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			now a lot of people, they try to
		
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			use this now that, okay,
		
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			you obviously
		
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			how did your family? Did they know now
		
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			that you had had, turned away from, you
		
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			know, I didn't tell I didn't tell them
		
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			openly, but I told them that, you know
		
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			what, I'm not interested in praying. I'm not
		
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			interested in going to the mosque. Don't even
		
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			ask me to go on Friday anymore. It's
		
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			obvious now. It's it's pretty obvious that this
		
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			this guy is far from the from the
		
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			religion. Yeah. Now what happens? Okay. That's the
		
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			moment. You go in
		
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			you're carrying buhadi, you know, the hadith on
		
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			your back, but I asked you how was,
		
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			really your core understanding was kind of very
		
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			weak, didn't have a bright teacher. Yeah. You
		
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			walk into this philosophy
		
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			class. You come in, you know, to a
		
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			gunfight with, you know, a pencil. Yeah. And
		
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			and what what after that? You left the
		
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			class really,
		
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			just disenfranchised.
		
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			You're Yep. Lost now. Lost. Your your your
		
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			faith is questioned, and everything's going out the
		
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			window? Yep. And then I started, you know,
		
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			then that that's when I kind of, you
		
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			know, got into a group of friends
		
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			where I probably wouldn't have considered them when
		
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			I was Muslim. So I started getting into
		
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			this group of friends that are telling me,
		
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			you know, let's go to nightclubs. Let's go
		
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			to raves.
		
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			Let's just party. Let's have fun. That seems
		
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			fun, It it seems fun at the time.
		
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			The venue opens up now. That's it.
		
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			Now, you know, the shackles are coming off
		
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			and you know when you're a freshman in
		
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			college, it's like you're just dying to get
		
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			out of, you know,
		
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			the confines of your home. Your parents have
		
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			always been kind of holding you back saying
		
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			it's for your own good.
		
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			Now now I'm in the dorms in college.
		
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			Now I have you know some level of
		
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			freedom even though my parents are trying to
		
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			you know spy on me from time to
		
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			time. Is this guy you know is he
		
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			crazy? Is he doing drugs? What's going on?
		
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			So I start having fun and I get
		
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			I get, or supposed fun, you know, and
		
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			I get into the wrong group, start going
		
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			to these clubs, start going to raves,
		
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			and kind of strange, you know, like I'm
		
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			not really believing but I have like these
		
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			I kind of sometimes I feel like, you
		
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			know, should I should I consider praying? Should
		
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			I not consider praying? There's still some doubts
		
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			going on. There's
		
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			doubts about not being Muslim as well,
		
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			like the way that there were doubts about
		
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			being Muslim. So I'm kind of going in
		
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			down this road and I get into street
		
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			racing with with the cars, basically.
		
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			Fast and Furious? Kind of like Fast and
		
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			Furious, basically. Inspired by all these movies, inspired
		
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			by what was going around in my area.
		
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			So I get with this group and we
		
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			start street racing and we just it's it's
		
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			a very dangerous thing. In retrospect, I tell
		
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			people
		
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			you don't realize what you're doing. You know,
		
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			one one mistake, you know, a pedestrian walking
		
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			down the street, you could just hit someone,
		
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			kill someone,
		
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			and you don't even feel it. It's like
		
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			a video game almost in front of you,
		
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			you know. So I start street racing,
		
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			and that's going on for a while
		
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			and one day I just get really upset
		
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			with my parents.
		
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			I get upset with,
		
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			just everything. I'm upset with life. I'm upset
		
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			with the world
		
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			and I lost a lot of money that
		
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			my parents had given me in the stock
		
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			market that day. It was a Friday.
		
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			The stock market crashes. I lose a ton
		
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			of money. I'm stressed out. I'm mad at
		
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			my parents.
		
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			I got my Did you say you're kind
		
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			of a spoiled rich kid? Kind of a
		
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			spoiled rich kid. That's just the reality. You
		
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			know, I'm driving a Lexus IS 300 the
		
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			same month that it came out. You know,
		
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			it was it was a big deal when
		
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			it came out. So that's pretty much what's
		
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			happening. So I'm really upset and I decide
		
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			I'm running away from home. I've I've had
		
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			it now. I need my absolute freedom. I
		
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			don't even wanna come home on the weekends
		
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			anymore. I'm out of here. So I get
		
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			my stuff. I have money in my bank
		
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			accounts, so my parents had given me. Everything's
		
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			ready ready to go. Jump in the car,
		
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			run away from home, never coming back again.
		
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			On my way, I'm driving from Orange County
		
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			down to San Diego. It's kind of a
		
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			windy road. All of a sudden, Nissan 300ZX
		
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			pulls up. Twin turbo tries to race me.
		
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			And I'm in a bad mood. I'm really
		
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			upset listening to rock music just you know,
		
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			fueling more anger and I decide, you know
		
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			what? That's it man. I'm gonna race this
		
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			guy. So we race and we're going really
		
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			really fast
		
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			and
		
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			my car spins out of control.
		
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			Literally, does a u-turn on the freeway
		
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			at a very very fast speed. We'll just
		
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			leave it at that.
		
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			And
		
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			4 car accident,
		
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			5 car accident, something like that.
		
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			I don't get injured. The car is totaled.
		
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			I walk out perfectly fine. People start telling
		
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			me that, you know what? God saved you
		
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			for a reason. I'm like, yeah, God. Whatever.
		
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			You know? So I started thinking about it
		
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			in the back of my mind and then
		
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			when the police came to me and said,
		
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			you know what? You're going to jail.
		
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			That's when I started just freaking out. All
		
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			my pleasures are gonna be gone. All my
		
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			enjoyment. All my fun. It's all gonna be
		
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			done. What do I do? So I start
		
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			thinking, you know what?
		
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			Maybe it's time to make some change in
		
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			my life. Maybe I need to take life
		
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			a little bit more seriously.
		
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			So my friends come back to me. It's
		
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			like, come on. Let's go. Let's just go
		
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			to the race, man. Just come back. Don't
		
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			worry. Don't let one car accident, you know,
		
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			get you down. We're gonna go back into
		
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			the same lifestyle that we had. You can
		
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			always count on those,
		
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			good friends. Right? Exactly.
		
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			Exactly. You know? So there's that that whispering
		
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			coming in. You know? They're trying to come
		
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			to my room and everything, and I just
		
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			decide, I don't wanna see you guys. I
		
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			just need to figure things out for myself.
		
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			What's going on? And that's when I decided,
		
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			you know what? After a while of struggling,
		
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			I said, you know what? There's no one
		
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			else to turn to. So when you have
		
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			no one else to turn to and you
		
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			don't even know what to do, that's when
		
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			I started praying and I said, you know
		
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			what God? I don't know if you exist.
		
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			I don't even know if I really believe
		
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			in you or not. But if you exist,
		
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			show me that you exist and show me
		
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			show me why I'm here. If there's a
		
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			purpose in life, show me that purpose. And
		
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			before I had asked that probably before but
		
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			I never put any effort into it. So
		
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			this time what was different is there's more
		
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			sincerity because I'm saying, and I'm gonna put
		
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			the effort in to find you. So I'm
		
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			gonna search, I don't know where to search,
		
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			I don't know what to do, but I'm
		
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			gonna put in my effort,
		
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			you send me something, you throw me a
		
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			little something so I can, you know, I
		
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			can find you.
		
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			So that's when I started saying, you know
		
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			what? I don't wanna do this. I'm not
		
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			playing anymore. I'm gonna be serious about life
		
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			until I try to figure this out. I
		
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			started going to the library. I started reading
		
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			books on philosophy to overcome
		
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			some of the things that I learned in
		
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			philosophy class
		
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			and reading books on Islam, reading books on
		
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			Christianity. So I started reading different religions, reading
		
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			more in detail about Islam,
		
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			reading about philosophy.
		
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			And
		
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			reading all that kind of, you know, helped
		
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			me
		
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			start to address some of the questions that
		
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			I used to have, but I never got
		
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			good answers. But how is your heart at
		
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			this moment? It's
		
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			different than it was before because you have
		
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			a desire to wanna know Yes. Instead of
		
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			covering the truth Exactly. You're open. I'm open
		
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			now and and now I'm focusing because you
		
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			know what? It's not about the worldly pleasures
		
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			anymore. Now it's not about, you know, I'm
		
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			not gonna sit there and say, oh, I'll
		
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			read one line or if that doesn't make
		
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			sense, I'm just gonna go go go to
		
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			a rave and just, you know, not just
		
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			just just get rid of it. That's the
		
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			difference, you know. So now the difference is
		
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			I'm not gonna waste my time. I'm gonna
		
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			give as much as I can in my
		
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			life to focus on what what needs to
		
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			get done. And you had read some of
		
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			the top atheist books?
		
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			Yes. What kind of what where was your
		
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			atheist now? I mean, it was seemed like
		
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			it was abandoned you. Was it, yes. I
		
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			mean, so what had happened I bought a
		
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			book about, you know, critiques of God, the
		
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			strongest arguments against God, and a long time
		
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			ago I bought it and I'm like, I
		
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			can argue I can respond to all this.
		
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			So I'm like, okay, let me go when
		
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			I was when I was still a Muslim,
		
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			I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna show
		
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			them that all this is wrong. And when
		
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			I was reading it, like, oh, man. This
		
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			sounds very intellectual and very rational. I go
		
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			to the mosque for Friday prayer. The guy
		
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			seems very emotional. He seems to be getting
		
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			upset. I said, yeah, this seems like like
		
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			I don't I don't have any response to
		
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			it. Right? Now, I still got that book
		
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			on my shelf but now I'm not just
		
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			comparing these things for 10 minutes and then
		
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			going and having fun. Now, I'm gonna sit
		
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			all day with this book and I'm gonna
		
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			go all day and I'm gonna look at
		
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			what Islam says. If there's any answers about
		
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			it. I'm really gonna sit there and reflect.
		
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			I'm gonna, you know, keep on asking God
		
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			for guidance
		
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			and that makes a world of difference. When
		
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			you put some real effort into it and
		
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			you have real like sincerity and desire to
		
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			actually invest time and effort into it that's
		
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			I think what really really, you know, helped
		
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			me. That's how that's how God helped me.
		
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			Was that the innate nature? You know about
		
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			that Oxford study with the 52 plus,
		
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			the anthropology department in Oxford. They did a
		
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			study saying that innate that belief is innate.
		
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			Innate within people. Yes.
		
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			Was so was it coming out now? Was
		
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			the god the hot spot in your brain,
		
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			was that now coming out in it from
		
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			your heart, from your consciousness?
		
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			Exactly. What happens it was covered up and
		
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			it gets covered up by our desires, by
		
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			our pleasures, and just running after these things.
		
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			Now that I'm like, you know what? This
		
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			is not my number one priority in life.
		
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			I'm not gonna run after just going eating
		
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			in fancy restaurants and just gonna go do
		
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			and have fun and all that. Now some
		
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			of these layers start coming off and say,
		
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			I'm willing to be open now. Now I'm
		
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			really gonna go and analyze and that that
		
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			natural disposition starts coming back. This is really,
		
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			really
		
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			interesting. They've actually done, documentaries
		
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			of of Muslims, supposed Muslims who are leaving
		
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			Islam, and they're kind of in the same
		
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			struggles. So I'm sure, you know, those who
		
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			are sincere,
		
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			they also can truly benefit because you were
		
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			Now
		
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			do we see this happening
		
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			more and more that because you're born in
		
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			a family, you don't have that proper direction,
		
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			good
		
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			examples from, let's say, from your family, teaching
		
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			you properly,
		
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			and you don't have, that guidance from a
		
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			young age, and now you end up kinda
		
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			drifting off, the whole world opens up, you
		
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			can start going to the raves, to the
		
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			night clubs.
		
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			Culture, a lot of culture strange things associated
		
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			with Islam. They have nothing to do with
		
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			Islam. Yeah. And now you have people leaving.
		
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			Yeah. Right? It's very common. Uh-huh. It's very,
		
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			very common, and I encounter it, you know,
		
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			on a regular basis. On a regular basis.
		
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			So, like, you know, it's it's it's not
		
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			that I'm alone. Almost everywhere I go, I
		
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			see people who
		
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			literally
		
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			that's exactly how I was, and I see
		
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			them asking the same kind of questions.
		
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			And some of them are interested in interested
		
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			in having a further discussion, and others, they
		
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			just they just go away from it. So,
		
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			you know, I I can see them going
		
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			down the same path, and I don't know
		
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			if someone had asked me back in the
		
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			day that, you know what? Hey. Why don't
		
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			you have a conversation or something like that?
		
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			I might have ran away as well. So
		
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			I don't know what would happen to me.
		
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			So I I can relate I can relate
		
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			to people and I can almost see exactly
		
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			what they're going through. I'm not the only
		
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			one who who went through this. Mhmm. But
		
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			now now you came back not just an
		
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			average Muslim. I mean, you went you'd you're
		
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			actually an imam and a a masjid Yes.
		
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			Spiritual leader. You you run the college of
		
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			Islamic studies.
		
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			I mean, how can someone before they get
		
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			in a train wreck, car wreck,
		
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			maybe die at an after party. Yeah. Who
		
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			knows? Because death is a reality and come
		
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			at any time. Before they go through all
		
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			this drama now, maybe end up no nowhere,
		
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			you actually
		
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			you ended up somewhere, you know, figuring out
		
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			the purpose of life, why you've been created,
		
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			you know, on on a path of goodness.
		
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			How can someone what let's derive some good
		
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			from this story now so people don't make
		
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			the same mistake. Yeah. They can avoid all
		
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			those, you know, pitfalls. Yeah. I mean, I
		
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			I tell people, you know, when I tell
		
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			them my story, you know, I don't share
		
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			that often, but when I tell them my
		
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			story, they almost some people come up to
		
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			me and they say, you know, I wish
		
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			I had a similar story so that I
		
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			could change.
		
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			I said, no. This you you don't want
		
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			this story. You don't want a near death
		
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			experience. You you don't because you might actually
		
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			die before you change, and you don't need
		
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			to have an experience like this. You don't
		
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			need to get into a car accident to
		
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			change. This is a way, you know, some
		
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			people they have this and they don't change.
		
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			Many people go through something similar and they
		
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			just go right back into the same life
		
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			that they went into. So there's no guarantee
		
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			and you don't need this type of experience
		
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			to change. If you have a willingness, you
		
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			have a sincerity, you have a desire that,
		
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			you know what, you you wanna you wanna
		
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			look into this more seriously. You realize that,
		
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			you know what, it's worth
		
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			just investigating
		
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			and finding out, you know, what the truth
		
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			is, why we've been created in the first
		
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			place so that you can figure out that,
		
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			you know what, if there's an afterlife, if
		
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			God is gonna hold us accountable, if this
		
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			is really a test, what can I do
		
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			to prepare for that test to make sure
		
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			that I pass it, you know? So people
		
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			can wake up without these experiences and what
		
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			my advice to them would basically be is
		
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			take life a little bit more seriously. You
		
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			know, there's a lot of distractions. There's a
		
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			lot of fun and games. There's gonna be
		
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			those friends who come. They try to grab
		
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			you and say, come on. Let's just go
		
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			have fun, you know. You start you you
		
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			attend a class.
		
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			You maybe you, you you benefit from a
		
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			Friday sermon. You watch a YouTube video and
		
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			you're kinda like, yeah. You know, I'm gonna
		
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			I'm gonna focus on this. I'm gonna be
		
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			interested in this. And then all of a
		
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			sudden someone goes, forget all that. Let's just
		
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			go watch a movie and you just forget
		
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			all of it. This is this is something
		
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			that we should be careful about. We need
		
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			we really need to reflect upon. Yeah. What
		
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			can we do? How can we change ourselves?
		
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			And the first step in changing yourself is
		
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			with knowledge.
		
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			Actually learning properly.
		
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			What is the religion of Islam, what is
		
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			the ultimate meaning behind these things, what is
		
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			the meaning behind these rituals, why are we
		
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			doing these things, and go beyond all that
		
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			and not get caught up into all these
		
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			small things. Okay. What if someone says, look,
		
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			you had the knowledge. You had Bukhadi books
		
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			on your back and you still left. What
		
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			do you say? The thing is there was
		
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			no foundation
		
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			and the key is to have a good
		
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			Islamic foundation because what a foundation does it
		
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			basically it contextualizes
		
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			everything. I got Bukhari books in front of
		
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			me but I don't know how to interpret
		
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			these statements that are in there. I don't
		
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			even know exactly who Bukhari is. I don't
		
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			know when he wrote this book. I don't
		
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			know how we know that the prophet, peace
		
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			be upon him, actually said these things. So
		
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			I just heard that this is authentic, but
		
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			I don't have a deep foundation. I don't
		
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			know how to interpret the Quran. If I
		
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			read it, I don't understand. You know what?
		
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			Does this pronoun refer to us? Does it
		
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			refer to something else? Who's this talking about?
		
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			I it's it talks about, you know, the
		
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			Battle of Badr. It says when the incident
		
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			happened at Badr. What is Badr? Badr if
		
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			you don't have a context, you don't know
		
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			any of these things. Right? So it's very
		
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			important to have a context and to have
		
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			a very wide
		
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			understanding like a overview of what Islam is.
		
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			So you everything you read, it kinda fits
		
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			into, like, a puzzle and you see the
		
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			entire thing in front of you. With that
		
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			context, you understand Islam properly. What if someone
		
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			says we have atheist,
		
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			same situation,
		
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			maybe his friend got him to watch and
		
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			he says, come on all you religious peep
		
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			people. I got my Christian friend. He said,
		
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			you know, he used to drink, do drugs,
		
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			* party, same thing, but he saw Jesus
		
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			in a dream now Right. And he's a
		
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			born again. What's the difference? Right. The the
		
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			difference is that you need, you know people
		
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			say, well, I had some personal experience or
		
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			something like that. That could be a true
		
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			experience. It can be a false experience but
		
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			there's got to be a way if
		
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			there is a God and if, you know,
		
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			if there's a real purpose in life, there's
		
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			got to be an objective way of us
		
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			being able to figure out what the truth
		
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			is. And my response to him would be,
		
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			you look around the world. You look at
		
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			your own body. You look at everything out
		
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			there and you say, you know what? Who
		
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			created all these things? You start from the
		
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			idea that there's a creator. You start from
		
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			the idea that all of this didn't happen
		
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			by random chance. The probability of it coming
		
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			together and it happening is not very is
		
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			not very strong at all. It's it's you
		
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			really got to have a leap of faith
		
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			to believe in something like that. That all
		
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			of this is just a product of chance.
		
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			Once you establish belief in the creator and
		
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			that there is a God, now you need
		
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			to learn about that God. Learn something about
		
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			him, and that's when you go and you
		
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			look at the different scriptures, look at the
		
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			different religions, and look at the core of
		
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			what are these religions actually teaching. And when
		
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			you come to Islam, you're gonna find that
		
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			it has that pristine message. It has that
		
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			message which basically says that there's only one
		
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			God. You should worship that one God. And
		
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			that God, when he created people, he didn't
		
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			just leave them in darkness to just kind
		
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			of figure out things on their own, have
		
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			fun, maybe some of them will take it
		
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			seriously
		
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			and he didn't leave it up to people
		
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			to kind of wait to have some kind
		
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			of spiritual experience where they're gonna, you know,
		
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			figure out on their own this is what
		
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			God wants me to do or communicating
		
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			directly. He sent us guidance and the guidance
		
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			is in people who received revelation.
		
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			We can objectively
		
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			evaluate that revelation, read the Quran, see if
		
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			this makes sense. Do the teachings make sense?
		
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			We can read the life of the prophet
		
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			Muhammad, peace be upon him. We can see
		
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			if
		
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			he did he have an ulterior motive? Could
		
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			he have been a liar? Does he look
		
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			like someone who would have made up something
		
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			like this and undergo all the difficulties that
		
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			he's coming with? So when we use our
		
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			minds, we use our intellects, and our hearts
		
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			are also, you know, open to this, we
		
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			will arrive at the reality
		
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			and the conclusion that, you know what, this
		
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			is something that makes sense. And that's really
		
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			what a lot of people say when they
		
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			when they when they look at Islam. They
		
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			come from other religions, other backgrounds, and they're
		
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			like none of this really made sense. When
		
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			you study Islam in a proper way within
		
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			its proper context,
		
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			the thing that people always say, it just
		
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			makes sense. It just makes sense. It makes
		
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			sense. It just makes sense. And tell us,
		
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			we're out of time. In short, I've I've
		
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			really benefited from the College of Islamic Studies.
		
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			Tell us a little bit in short about
		
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			this and how people can go ahead. This
		
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			is this is a great place to start
		
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			also now. Yes. So I mean the the
		
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			College of Islamic Studies is really it's a
		
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			program where people can attend live or they
		
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			can actually take classes online.
		
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			And this is designed we have 18 or
		
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			19 different classes.
		
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			It's designed to give you that foundation in
		
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			Islam so that you don't get lost like
		
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			I did. So that you understand what the
		
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			context is and it prioritizes
		
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			what Islamic studies are. Many people, they just
		
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			pick up the Quran, start reading. Or they
		
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			pick up a hadith book, start reading, but
		
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			they don't have any context behind that. And
		
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			it's very important to have a context, you
		
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			know, beyond all that. So I would recommend
		
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			everyone check out our website which is college
		
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			islamdot
		
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			com. You can enroll in classes. You can
		
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			enroll online anywhere you are, any any place
		
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			around the world. We have students in different
		
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			countries around the world. I recommend that people
		
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			at least try a class and I guarantee
		
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			that you're gonna benefit and you're gonna see
		
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			Islam in a different light. Beautiful. Thank you
		
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			so much. Thank you very
		
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			much. Peace be with you. Peace be with
		
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			you as well. Islam says love all mankind.
		
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			That's why we're sharing this message because we
		
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			want the best for you, and we want
		
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			the best for all mankind.
		
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			We'll see you next time. God willing on
		
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