Channel: Muslim Life Hackers
Series: Muslim Life Hackers - Season 2
Mifrah speaks with positive psychologist, coach & entrepreneur: Saiyyidah Zaidi on happiness, high performance & wealth.
- “You had an aim to become a chief executive but priorities changed and you were true to that which is a very brave step to take especially since sometimes when we are set on a goal, its as though we get to married to it or something – there’s no flexibility if things change in life” [3:40 – Mifrah]
- “… Honestly if you were to ask me, I would say that I live the life of a millionaire right now but does it mean I am millionaire? I choose when to get up, how to spend my time. If we want to take off 3 months and go travelling then we can do it because of some of the things we set up and it doesn’t need to extravagant.” [10:48 – Saiyyidah]
- “If you surround yourself with amazing people, your going to life yourself and become even more amazing. When I look at the situation of UK, many people are generationally unemployed or generationally uneducated because that’s who they surrounded themselves with.” [17:39 – Saiyyidah]
- “You talk about the importance of being confident in yourself so that you bring more to things you do. Now an issue that was brought up by one of our listeners on this, was finding that balance between being confident and not being proud and arrogant? Is this just a misunderstanding of confidence or is there some truth to this, can you really get carried away in the pursuit of being more confident?” [18:10 – Mifrah]
- “In order to be high performers we need to take care of yourselves. Its not rocket science. It just requires a little bit of tweaking to the life we are living” [27:13 – Saiyyidah]
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Season Two, Episode 10
Welcome to the Muslim life factors podcast, the weekly podcast providing you the knowledge, tools and connections to help you get ahead in life. And now for your hosts Mithra maroof and mahane Malik
Assalamu alaikum Muslim life hackers, welcome to another episode from the Muslim life hackers podcast. My name is Mr. America, and I'll be your host for today. In this episode we have on the show guests faders at seda is a certified high performance coach, a positive psychologist, student of life traveler, and mum. She's also the founder of the Muslim entrepreneurs Association, and the creator of the abundance Academy. Now, this interview, she shares some great insights on positive psychology, high performance, and being intentional with our lives and making use of the blessings that we've been given. Now you take away many great gems from this episode as I have, the funny
thing was during this show, we got into some tips on how to work better. And one of the things I mentioned was to get more sleep because most of us are sleep deprived. And that there was this research mentioning that those who are sleep deprived, despite similar symptoms to a person who was slightly drunk. Now, I found this funny because just that morning, when we're recording that interview, I slept at around 2am because it was Saturday night, and you know, you have family over and everything. So the interview was scheduled 5am The next morning. So that's three hours of sleep. And I'm hoping that I want to be exceptions to this research and that I don't display any symptoms
and, you know, still come across completely sane. But regardless, the interview was fantastic. And I'm sure you'll enjoy it. So without further ado, let's get into it. Islam local Muslim life hackers, I'm here on a call without guests for today's is to say those ad as lovely Crusader. How are you today? While it comes to light, I'm very, very happy to be speaking to you guys have the level we we are honored to have you on the show. And thank you so much for joining us. I'm quite excited for this interview and the questions that we have lined up. But for our audience who are not aware of your work, can you play? Can you tell us about yourself and the work you do?
That's a quite a quite complex question. Actually, I am, I started out working as an architect and kind of got to the top of my game, my ambition used to be to become the first hijabi, Chief exec in local government in the UK. And anyway, I got quite close to that. And then I just realized one day that actually, that was not the life that I really wanted. And even though I've been quite driven in my career, and I could have done it, you know it, my life was going to take a different track. So that's when I started to coach others to get to the top of their game within their careers, and get into positive psychology, which was just digging a little bit deeper in terms of well being and
happiness. And the work that I do now is very much orientated around helping individuals literally to get to the top of their game in whatever it is that they're doing. And then also I run courses online and teach kind of people in larger groups, how they can learn more about things like the Islamic perspective on positive psychology, personal development, General Growth in just how they can kind of I like to call it squeeze more out of life, you know, Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's really good to hear that. How you mentioned about you, you wanted to you actually had an aim to become a chief executive, but then, like, priorities changed. And you're actually true to that, which is actually, like a very brave step to take us especially since like, you know, when some sometimes when we're set on a goal, like we're like, it's, it's as though we get married to it or something like this, that that flexibility things do change in life. So I know. And the thing is, sometimes that can, it can restrict you, and it holds you back. And I'm writing something at the moment. And the interesting thing is one of the titles I've chosen is $160,000 a
year to buy my life. Yeah, because that's literally how I felt because that's how much money I was earning. And you know, it's crazy. It's just an obscene amount of money. You know, but literally, my I felt like I had sold my soul and, you know, 100 law, I was still able to practice as a Muslim and there was no issues with me wearing Hijab and fasting and praying and all of those other things, but it just didn't feel like you know, it just didn't feel like it was the life that I wanted to lead and was all of that money and the lifestyle that I had actually worth the sacrifices that I was making. And sometimes, you know, when when we're after progression in our careers, and we want
To quit in our jobs, we don't actually realize the things that we're sacrificing. That's so true. So true. So you actually do work on areas, such as like entrepreneurship work, faith balanced. And there's the positive psychology, high performance and abundance. Now that that was a handful. The first two are quite clear and straightforward. But I'm actually interested to know more about the last three on that list. So that's the positive psychology, high performance and abundance, can you explain to us what these are all about?
Absolutely, positive psychology is awesome, is essentially the Science of Happiness. And it's to do with how you can increase your well being, and so upon, like, you know, I'm doing a PhD at the moment, and I'm actually studying the Islamic perspective on positive psychology. And for me, the two things, you know, they literally hand in hand, because if we look at even the the five pillars of Islam, I like to think of those as interventions. And so for example, when we pray five times a day, and we are in that conversation with Allah subhanho, wa Taala, actually, it's a very positive intervention within our life, because it does so many things, it reconnects us with a spirituality,
it kind of gives us an opportunity to be grateful, it gives us hope, you know, when we're stuck in life, and we're kind of thinking, why is this stuff happening to me, then you have hope, because you can ask Allah for help. And so really, what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to work out a way for how we can look at Islam as a very, very kind of positive faith and actually take out things from it that are going to make us happy, rather than become ritualized. And, you know, there's, there's a lot of negativity around the world at the moment for Muslims, and I just want to do a little bit to transform that because, you know, Muslims, we are not miserable beings, you know, we can have a
laugh, but at the same time, we need to work out what we need for our own well being and how we can actually increase our levels of, of joy and satisfaction with life upon Allah, you know, many of the Sahaba the Prophet Muhammad SAW, some himself would say that, you know, contentment is the key to life, yet we hunger for all of these things, and we're not content. And I think that there's a lot that can be done to turn some of that around. So I'm very interested in how, as a Muslim, we can bring some of these interventions into our lives and just be happy or happier on a daily basis, rather than say, you know, my life is miserable. But this is what Allah has chosen for me, because I
don't buy that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely. I mean, people, like when you actually come come across that, like, that really negative belief that people are able to kind of live life like that knowing, okay, this is how I'm going to be I'm going to be miserable for the rest of my life. And it's, it's pretty amazing that like, life can progress like that. But, I mean, like you said, definitely, I mean, we're not miserable people. And there's so much we can learn about, like being happy. Yeah, and we all make our choices, you know, and, of course, look, everything we know that everything is in the control of Allah subhanaw taala. But I really think that more of us should live
our life by you know, tie your camel, leave the rest to Allah. And if you don't do the tie your camel a bit, then Seriously, what is it that you're leaving to Allah subhanaw taala. Because it's not going to be very much, you know, and I think that we should just spend more time trying to work out what it is, that's actually going to make us happier and take steps towards that. And so, if we look back to what we were discussing before, about me wanting to be the first hijabi chief exec, you know, I was driven towards that goal, you know, and I asked a lot for help. And he puts so much biochar in my career, it was phenomenal. But you can do that with any goal that you have is
literally just about articulating what it is working out and then seeking the help of Allah subhanho wa Taala. And, and I think in some ways, actually, that kind of quite nicely takes me on to the work that I'm doing in terms of abundance, because, you know, I when I was growing up, we had no money, you know, there there was one week I remember where it was a Thursday and we had run out of food and we had no money and we basically had to wait until the next Tuesday. Right? And so when you grow up living like that, then you understand what the value of money is. But then when you go to the other extreme when you're on kind of obscene amounts of money and you actually don't understand what those
zeros meaning your bank balance. It's, it's a complete contradiction. And so the seat and then you look at the the situation that I'm living in now because I am living in Egypt and we're all studying Arabic and our
And you know, other scholarly subjects, and it's wonderful, but you look at the quality of life, and the standard of living, and it's very, very different from living in an urban situation. And this is where I think the protocol comes from, because nobody needs
a particular lifestyle that they've kind of that they
that they are desperate for, in order to feel abundance. And abundance is very much a state of mind. And it's literally about saying, Okay, this is the lifestyle that I want to lead. And this is how I'm gonna do it. Because honestly, if you asked me, I would say that I live the life of a millionaire right now, that doesn't mean I am a millionaire. But, you know, I choose when to get up, I choose how to spend my time, you know, if we wanted to take off three months and going traveling, we could do it because we've because of some of the things that we've set up, you know, and it doesn't need to be extravagant. So it's, and I suppose what I'm trying to do in the work that I'm
doing with entrepreneurship, abundance, positive psychology is, is basically say to people, you know, what is the other perspective on life? If you really could live the life that you wanted to? What would you do? And how can you then go about making that happen? Because we don't need to be stuck to the city that we were born in and grew up in, and our desk job and all of that other stuff? You can make crazy choices like I did, you know, yeah. Wow, that's so true, like changing, changing perspectives, and being true to kind of what the kind of life you want to, you know, it actually reminds me of how Tim Ferriss actually calls it the new, new rich, you don't have to particularly be
a billionaire, but design your life in a way that he works on your terms. Absolutely. And you know, what's really nice about about this is, it gives you the opportunity to really genuinely put Islam at the heart of your life. Because I couldn't be doing some of the things that I'm doing. Now, you know, when I was working in a desk, job, it's very hard for you to have proper horseshoe in your salon. And it's something that we will always strive for. But when you're when you're on a kind of a deadline, and you only have a few minutes, and you're worrying about who's looking at you. And you know, did you make sure we'll do properly because you haven't got the facilities in your workplace
in all of these other things? How can you actually really focus on it, but if you take yourself away from it and get some get some control, and I think, you know, Alan has given us so many gifts today with with the internet will technology and all of this stuff that it's like his facilitated it for us to be able to take control over our lives, so that we can actually be Muslims first, and then kind of everything else just cascades off that. Yeah, definitely. I mean, like, part of part of being grateful is to make use of the blessings Allah smart Allah has given us, isn't it? Absolutely, definitely. So I'm just moving on the conversation a bit. I actually noticed you, you released a
series recently about positive psychology messages from the 40 hadith of Eva Minogue. Now, this is something that I this is the first time I came across something like this. So I was excited to sign up myself. But I'm, I'm quite curious to know like, what do you hope to achieve with this project? And what has been your most insightful takeaway from all this?
Do you know I, I did a course with Chevron was not the in London a couple of years ago, on the Hadith of the 40 hadith of Iran, Norway, and it just blew me away. Because I remember sitting in that course thinking every single thing that we're learning has a positive psychology perspective on it. And, you know, we can we take from things what we want to, yet these Hadeeth can, if you look at them from a slightly different angle, your the messages that are in there can actually improve your well being. And so you know, there's the message in there about Islam s and and sorry, it's Eman, Islam Islam. And what I love about that is that this is a hadith that many people are familiar with.
Yeah. But sometimes we forget that the message of excellence is also one about improving ourselves. And when we make the decision to improve ourselves, we are actually making ourselves happier. And sometimes it's literally just about articulating that to somebody and saying, just look at these things from a slightly different perspective. That doesn't take away from all of the kind of Hadith studies and the extensive knowledge and books that are out there. They're looking at the Hadith from a scholarly perspective, because that's not what I'm trying to do. Yeah, but what I'm trying to say is, you know, many people are already familiar with
Let's just look at what we can take out of that to make us happier. You know, even the wish for your brother, what you would wish for yourself. But it's something that so many of us struggle to do. But there is a serious positive psychology message in there in there. You know, when you wish, when you actually wish something positive for somebody else. The abundance, the joy, the happiness that comes back your way, is priceless. Yeah, definitely. But I think we've forgotten some of that stuff. And so what I'm trying to do, really, with this series, is just give it kind of, like a different perspective. And also, I wanted to do it in email, because I know the hustle and bustle of life, you
know, sometimes I I'm constantly saving videos and saying, I'll watch you later. And I just don't do it. Right. But if it's an email, and it takes me five minutes to read, or a couple of minutes, I'm going to read the thing, and then I've got the takeaway, and I can move on. And that's really what I'm trying to do with this series. inshallah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, I really liked that point, point you made about the one about loving for your brother, what you love for yourself, and that message of positive psychology and abundance. It, it actually reminds me of what I'm seeing with, with, like, some of some of the ways that how some successful business people actually,
you know, go go about with their business. And one of the things that I noticed, they would say is like, you know, have that abundance mindset, just just because they're doing the same thing as UI doesn't mean that there's going to be like, any less of a demand kind of thing.
Absolutely, I mean, you know, that there is, there was a time that I've read, the scholars have said, and I'm not sure how authentic This is a hadith or not, but for me, it's just, it's a wonderful idea, even if it's not an authentic, that the time will come where people are so wealthy, that they will be nowhere for us to give charity. Now, if that is the case, then why don't we actually approach our lives like that and think, Well, you know, how wealthy could we become? And I don't just mean in a monetary kind of way, but how wealthy can we actually be in terms of time, productivity, our family, our faith, all of this other stuff? And how can we then share that with
other people because you will get Buttercup, you know, and it's, it's if I it, also, I suppose the other thing is, we are the some of the people that we surround ourselves with. So if you surround yourself with amazing people, you're going to just lift yourself and become even more amazing. But if I look at the situation, in the UK, many people are generationally, unemployed, or generationally uneducated, because that's who they've surrounded themselves with. But you just need to take one person out of that situation, and everything changes. That's so true. So I just want to shift gears a bit here and move on to the topic of confidence. Now, you talked about the importance of being
confident in yourself so that you can bring more to the things that you do. And you know what this, this makes total sense. But an issue that was brought up by one of our listeners on this whole issue of confidence was that finding the balance between confidence and not being proud and arrogant? So I'm really interested to know what your thoughts on this? I mean, is this just a misunderstanding of confidence? Or is there some truth to this in that you can get really carried away the pursuit of being confident? I think there's a very fine line between being really, really confident and being kind of arrogant and full of yourself. And, but I think that, especially for Muslim women, yeah. And
I think increasingly so for Muslim men now, because of the way that the world is moving. So we don't have confidence anymore. And we don't believe in ourselves. And what happens is that as soon as you start to lack confidence, you start to develop a victim mentality. And that then means that you don't actually do anything now. And so I think you have to have a degree of confidence. Because when you believe that you can do something, actually, it does become a self fulfilling prophecy, because you kind of take your physicality and your psychology and move yourself towards doing that thing. Now, if you kind of it, you know, I'm studying Arabic. And if I just kind of went into my class
really full of myself and said, Oh, yeah, you know, I, I've already studied this stuff, I don't need to learn it again. And I didn't revise for my exams, and I didn't pay attention in class, would I pass those exams? No. And that's, that's the difference, you know, do we want to be with people who are like that and kind of full of themselves Not really. And so I think actually, for even, you know, for people who are really, really confident that
key thing to do is to surround yourself with people that keep you on your keep your feet on the ground. And so for me, you know, I, we all have date up and down. And you know, there'll be days where I feel great. There'll be days where I'm just like, oh my god, what am I doing? Why am I even studying? Why am I doing this stuff. But then I have my husband and my kids, and they're the people that keep my feet on the ground. They're the ones that, you know, at the end of the talk that I've done, who will remind me who I am. And it's wonderful, because I think it's, it's really, really important for us, especially when you become successful, to make sure that you thank Allah subhanaw
taala, for your success, because your success does not come from you, it becomes because he's given it to you. Yeah, you know, and, and I think that that, so that's, that's one message in terms of surrounding yourself with good people. And if you, if you don't feel confident, then I think my, I suppose my formula for what I do when I'm starting to feel a little bit down and I'm unsure of myself is I asked a lot for help, you know, and I'll make Vicar and there's regular tickers that I do because you there'll be the time when you wake up in the middle of the night and you doubt everything that has ever existed in your life, right.
And that's the time to make Vicar and to ask Allah for help. Because even if you don't know what you're doing, even if you feel unconfident, then ask Allah to bring that confidence into your life, because he is the one that can give you absolutely everything. No, and don't. I suppose my key advice in confidence and in abundance and all of these things is just don't restrict yourself. Because unless abundance is massive, you know, we can't even fathom what it is. So whatever it is that you want to ask for, make your goals clear, and then ask Allah for help, because he will facilitate for you inshallah. Yeah, yeah, that's that's a true. So just going back on that point you
made about how what you normally do is like increasing the amount of thicker that you do. So what do you what do you actually mean by that? Do you mean that your treatment?
Oh, there's a, there's a kind of a little page that I have of vehicle. And I literally, I just read it again and again and again, and I'm happy to share it with you.
Yeah. And it's just is the one that that I do, and it works for me, because then I wake up, and I feel hope again, though, because there have been times when we've been here and I've questioned why we've moved our whole family to Egypt. Yeah. And, and it's at times like that, that you just kind of think, you know, of course, it's all as well, but what is it that I'm supposed to learn through this? And you say, I don't know, I sometimes get a bit down and, and, you know, you miss your family and all of these other things and you know, the nice cup of coffee that you get in the morning.
And I think, Okay, I have to get myself out of this. And it's the the code that makes me do that. So I'm happy to share that with you inshallah. Okay, awesome. So for our audience, and I said to this will include that in the show notes, inshallah.
Okay, now, now coming into high, high performance, and actually working working to the best of our abilities, I know that there's a lot to say on this topic and the time we have here when suffice, but I'm interested to know, like, what, what are your best tips when it comes to like, high performance working, because I know that you know, you're, you're doing a lot and, you know, writing writing your book, and then there's the Arabic. And that's just a few are for what you're doing. So how can you keep kind of working with excellence and really making your time count?
So that's the interesting one, because my answer to how you can be a high performer would be slightly different to how you can be excellent and make your time count. Okay? And I'll answer the second one first, okay? Because, because I think that when you when I wake up in the day, and I have a lot to do, I just have to remember that insha Allah on judgment day, when I meet Allah Subhana Allah and he's asking me questions about my life. I don't want to just be average, you know, I don't want to just present him with average stuff. And that means that I have to do things that make myself uncomfortable. And, you know, five years ago, I did not even know how to spell the word blog,
let alone what it was. Right? So you, you take yourself out of the comfort zone and do things that that are difficult for you and challenge you. Because at the end of the day, when we stand in front of Allah subhanaw taala, we want to have tons and tons of good deeds, so many good days that we cannot even imagine because it could just be one of those that tips us over intergender right. And so that for me, is is the hope
post about being excellent and striving to do the things to the best of your ability, because you don't know how Allah is going to kind of judge the deeds that you're doing. But if you try to do the best that you can, in everything that you do, inshallah, he will accept it with the intention that you're kind of, you know, that you're feeling in your heart and in your mind. Yeah. The next thing in terms of high performance, I would say, and it kind of links to the first thing, I would say, Be have absolute clarity over what you want to do. Because, you know, you can be excellent at anything. Right. You know, I mean, there are people out there that are excellent at stuff that is just a
complete waste of time. And there's a story from early Islam. Yeah, this guy went to a king and said, Look, I'll show you a trick. And he basically fed up, put a piece of thread through 10 needles, right. And the king said to him, so So give him 40 dinars, and give him 40 lashes. And so the 14th
he did, and the 40 lashes was because he wasted his time, right. And so we really have to spend our time doing things that are constructive, that are going to actually help us to be better Muslims, but also contribute to wider society. So be absolutely clear on what you want to do, and then be the best data in Sharla.
Okay, that makes sense. So it's like, the first, the first thing is to be clear on the intention and the why behind what what you're doing. So that was the excellence in what you're doing. And then the second is to have absolute clarity, with what you need to get done. Yeah. And then there's other things, you know, which have to do with your psychology and your mindset, and your, you know, your physiology as well, because, you know, if you're, if you're not drinking enough water, how is your brain gonna work? How is your body actually going to function properly, we are all sleep deprived at the moment, if we don't sleep properly, you know, it's like we're walking around slightly drunk,
there's research that's been done that just says that if you don't sleep, effectively, you display the symptoms of somebody who's had some alcohol, I know. So this is what we're doing to ourselves, because we think that we're being so efficient, going to bed with our phones, you know what I mean? on
the phone, we need to change some of that. Because in order to be high performers, we need to actually take care of ourselves. And it's not rocket science, it just requires a little bit of tweaking to the lives that we're living.
That's so true. Because at the end of the day, we It is our bodies that is actually carrying us to be able to do all these things. And if we don't take care of that, then it's going to be hard to get things done. Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, on that point that you've mentioned, on being uncomfortable, and like getting out of your comfort zone in order to do things that remind me of this podcast that I heard the other day, and that person, he was saying that whenever he feels uncomfortable, and when he's trying something new, he tells himself that, hey, I'm doing something, right. Because if I feel this, that means I'm growing. So other, those are quite interesting
perspective to look at it. I love it, I lay because, you know, it's like, and actually, you know, this, I've got, I've got some names from books that I'm going to share each other later on. And, and one of those is outliers by Malcolm Gladwell. And I absolutely love that book. Because the message he gives is about, you know, anyone can learn to do anything if they apply themselves to it, but you do have to step out of your comfort zone, and it will hurt and it will hurt you physically, and it will hurt you emotionally and spiritually and everything, but you do it you become an expert in it. And you know, it could be your life's work. Hmm, that's true. And and even even when we have a have
a look at, say how things work in nature and everything like there is that kind of resistance it has to go through before it comes to another stage. Like for example, when when children grow, I mean, this up crying because they're growing and or like when they're like growing, growing a new tooth or something kind of thing. So it's, there's always going to be painted the process of growth, but Well, I tell you, it's very nice thing that you've raised, because I remember once when my son was trying to memorize some lines from the Quran, and he and he just started to cry. And I was like, What's wrong with her? And he said, it's so hard. And but he carried on and he carried on and I was
like, this is the first time I've seen this kid really, really want to do his health? No. And it just, it blew me away because it made me realize that it's not me that wants it for him. He wants it for him. That internal, you know, having that internal drive. Absolutely. And I think that that's really, really
important because unless you want to do something for yourself and you're willing to suffer and go through that pain, you'll just give up. You know, it's it is so easy to give up at stuff these days. Yeah, we need to just remain committed and just go for it, inshallah. And imagine the success, you know, when he completes his his, you know, for me that's bigger than a PhD, you know, when he stands in front of Allah subhanaw taala. And he starts reciting, and you know, what they say that your, your place in general will be determined by when you stop reciting? That's pretty amazing. Yeah, definitely. It's pretty amazing. Oh, you know, are you speaking about like, the excuses and stuff.
I remember reading this thing about how humans are irrational beings and like, we would do something and then would kind of like, justify that behavior, as opposed to like being the other way around. So it's very easy to get out of doing something because it's easy to have an excuse, and say, hey, maybe this kind of lifestyle isn't for me, or I'm not that kind of person.
No, absolutely. I agree with you. Because, you know, it's, I have, it just reminds me of the kind of strange way that I'm living now. Because I'm living in the middle of Cairo. You know, there's, there's, it's a bigger city than London, in some respects, is in places the biggest city in Africa, right. Wow. And it the hustle and the bustle and the pollution and all of that my life is very different. But would I change it? Never, because of all of the other stuff that we're going that we're learning? Yeah. Yeah. And, and also, people have these kind of these, you can, you can say this, this wrong, wrong idea about like, when when they see someone successful, they think that our
Look, it's all it's all easy comes easy to them. And they probably don't experience like times of fear. And like they don't, they don't experience like all these resist resistance and stuff. I mean, what do you what do you say to that, especially since you are someone who have accomplished a lot of things.
So success comes when you work hard, you know, like,
Edison, who invented the light bulb, we had 10,000 failures, he didn't succeed a first time round, you know? Yes, 100 Allah, Allah has blessed me with a lot of wonderful things. But, you know, I struggled at school, and I worked so hard when I was at university, you know, my friends were going off on holiday, I was working every single holiday just so that I could, you know, pay my way. So, I, and now people see that, you know, Hamdulillah, I've achieved things and stuff. But when did I last have a break? Now, I can't imagine where I can't even think about what I last had a proper break. And, and that's great for me, because I want to continue learning, you know, my, yes, I'm
making the choices about how I'm spending my time. But I'm only able to do that because of the hard work that I put in for a good 30 years of my life. Like most Best of the work happens behind the scenes, and few people only see like that, just that little bit. Yeah. And I think that that with the way that the world is these days, everybody works. Thing instantly. Well, you know, yeah. And, and, okay, great example, because look at fast foods you get as well, but look how bad it is for you, you know, yet if you're going to make a healthy salad, and if you go to the effort of growing all the stuff yourself organically, it's hard work. But I bet you that salad will be the best salad
you eat in your whole life, you know, because of the time and the love and the care that you've put in. And actually, it's just like raising children, we can get the technology to babysit our kids. Or we can turn ourselves away from technology and spend time with our kids. And then the fruits of what we sown will be so much better. No. Do you want your kid to turn around and swear at you? Or do you want your kid to be talking about immediate
so now since like, honestly, like I really enjoyed this interview and the insights that you've read, but you know, all good things have to come to an end. You know, as we're nearing this interview, actually shift gears a bit and ask you some final questions. So first of all, what are some of your favorite books are so I mentioned outliers by Malcolm Gladwell. And I have to say, you know, yes is going to sound cliched and everything, but one of my favorite books is that and the more that I I mean, the part of the reason why I wanted to learn Arabic is because I wanted to understand some of the nuances of the words that Allah subhanaw taala use and why he used them. And so the more I
understand that the more I fall in love with so and so is the best personal development book out there, my friends, I'm serious. So so definitely. And then the magic of thinking big by David Schwartz.
awesome book because sometimes what we do is we we restrict ourselves to think little things because of the people that are around us. And what this book does is it just gets you to kind of 10 x 100 x 1000 x your thinking and it just opens up your perspective to what is possible in your life. I think it's like the third or fourth time that I'm coming across Magical Thinking vague, I think it's a I think it's a sign that I need to go and get that book and start reading it. So I have to throw my to do list you must awesome. So finally, I just want to ask you where can our audience find you online to learn more about what you're doing and benefit from your work so people can go to my website
which is seder.com
You can also find me on Facebook at Caesars at or working Muslim and on the say the.com is kind of got links to all of the other things that I'm doing as well and you can follow me on twitter central texture at booking Muslim, as well inshallah
so for those listening all this will be included in our show notes, which you can find on our website at Muslim life hackers.com saying that thank you so much for joining us on the show today does apply here and I love your podcast I have to say that I benefit from it so much as well. So inshallah someone will benefit from this one. I thank you so much. Okay, so that concludes our episode with Seder baby. You can find more about her work online on our website. And you can also connect with her on the social media platform she's on including Facebook and Twitter. You'll find links to that on our website in the show notes. Also, are you a part of the Muslim life hackers VIP
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