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S01E06 – Zohra Sarwari on Legacy, Talent & Leadership

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In this Podcast Mifrah and Maheen catch up with Sr. Zohra Sarwari and talk about all things leadership, vision, talents and goals Zohra Sarwari.

In this episode, you will learn:
– Why it is important to leave behind a legacy.
– How do I find my talents in order to leave a legacy?
– What is a key quality of a leader?

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Episode Six Welcome to the Muslim life hackers podcast, the weekly podcast providing you with tips and tricks on how to hack your life and maximize its potential. And now for your hosts Mithra maroof and Mahima lake.

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As we said, the crisis see

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Assalamu alaikum Muslim life hackers, this is me from America and in today's episode mahina and I interview our first guest on the podcast, sister Zahara sawari. And talk about all things leadership, vision, talents and goals. For those who don't know sulfurous or worry, she's an international speaker, author and life coach living in Indiana, USA. All the links and resources mentioned in this episode will be found in the show notes. You can find them at Muslim life hackers.com slash six. That's number six. Without further ado, let's start the interview.

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Assalamu alaikum everyone it's me melody with me for my roof sound like everyone. So we're here at the being me women's conference in Sydney. Really excited. We've got Zora, so are you with us sound like him? So her kilometer was super excited to have you with us kidnapped her put it to the side. So it's like bombarded with questions. Okay, so let's start with this question that we had. Were actually wondering about talents, right? People actually asked us like, how, how exactly do I find out my talents? Because there's a lot of like, emphasis on you know, do what you love. But then how do we know what we love?

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Yeah, what what are we good at? Okay, this is a beautiful question. And I have to tell you guys that the first book I wrote is based on this question. Yeah. So what happened was when I was teaching it, because I coach I life coaching, when I was coaching people, this is exactly what people come back and say, what's my strength? What's my weakness? I don't know. And so the book nine steps to achieve your destiny starts with that. What's the first step, the second, the third? By the ninth step, you've discovered yourself inshallah. So it's really important, I can't see in one thing that you can figure it out. But obviously, when you figured out your strengths, you have to go through

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several steps to kind of find out who you are, and what you love. And by going through that process, then by the end, you're like, Okay, this is me. You can identify with something and then you take that inshallah, and you focus on that, and you heighten it to make it the best. Let's just say, You're an extrovert, Mashallah, you're amazing with money? And with finances, and you think, yes, absolutely. And you're doing excellent with us. Now, what can you do with that? So you've got a degree in finances, and you feel really good, you know how to budget and money. And then you're also an extrovert, you can easily talk to people, what can you do, you can definitely speak up and stuff,

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you can teach others how to do what you can become a coach from it, you can write a book, and I mean, go out there and be able to explain it to people. So there's different things that each one of us have different talents, and it doesn't have to be one or the other. But you basically find your strengths inshallah. Yeah, I mean, like, as you were speaking about the topic of money, I mean, like, he says, not not people know how to manage to save money. She was thinking about this the other day, how I'm such a bad saver. Yeah. And and, you know, that's, that's so true. Because the people who do know, it's important that, you know, they can get out there and teach people, I guess

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they're really undervalued their knowledge that they have. Yeah, it's one of the biggest issues that we have in the Muslim community. And I've noticed that worldwide, traveling a lot of a special is that we don't have enough confidence, we don't have enough self esteem, to think that Allah has given us this talent, and that we have an authority to go out and share it like not being egotistical and not being arrogant, but being out there helping your sisters and brothers. So if you've achieved something, and you know that other people can benefit from it, this is a big, important thing to do. And that could be someone, let's say they lost 50 pounds, they figured out

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how to lose weight, they can definitely go out there and help so many people achieve this mission like this, this ties into why it's important to leave a legacy. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's a board because obviously, at the end of the day, you come back, it's everything we're doing. We're doing it for the sake of a lesson how what do you want to go to, you know, when you see advisors, or what do you want to go to? And we know that when we die, only three things benefit us, right? Yeah, children who like to offer us any kind of knowledge of left behind, and any kind of surgery. So if this is the case, where is your legacy going to be? If you're six feet under which we're all going

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to go? What are you going to be getting the goodies from? Yeah, let's say some of you don't get married, and you'd have kids. I mean, like, nobody knows what happens, or you die before you have children. What will you be doing to get your goodies from where will they be coming from Mr. Pamela? Like, you know, with my kids, it's funny that they were talking about this, and my son was like, Mom, if I were to die right now, I mean, what would my son Johnny, and I looked at him, and he's literally he's 10. And I looked at my bucket, I said, Marshall, you've written three books. You got videos, after you've done lectures, I said, that'll be part of this other kajaani Sharla Don't get

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excited. Because like, it starts small, but I'm saying you have to think what is my legacy gonna be? So it doesn't matter what your I mean, you can get awesome

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Chef and also cook write a cookbook that's going to continue benefiting people, and you will get the good deeds in English a takeaway from here is that you don't wait Don't delay. You never know when your time is up kind of thing. Absolutely, absolutely. Act now, act immediately. You know, don't walk by opportunities thinking tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow. No, you don't know you'll be you'll be here tomorrow. Yeah, that's so true. Because, um, you know how you were saying about like, if you know, something, and it's the lack of confidence just reminds me of something that I was reading online. And one of the blogger, he was saying that you don't have to be an expert. It's just, you

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know, more than the person you're teaching? Absolutely. I mean, it's, I can help them. And if you can help, that's it. I mean, you know, let's just say, you gave somebody confidence and knowledge and you helped them in one area. And they took that to a whole nother level, and you're still getting the good deeds from it, Mashallah. And let's say they wrote a book based on you inspiring and motivating. And you get the good deeds from that book. So Pamela, maybe make some points. So another question that we really want to know is, what's the most important thing that you've learned about leadership? I know it's generic, generic, but everyone has a different take. Yeah, and

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especially good to benefit from each person's insight. I think the most important thing I've personally learned about leadership, and this is going through the life of the Prophet sallallahu, wasallam. And the Sahaba de la Han, the great moms and anyone who's righteous, I read the Bible with his characters, everything, if you have characters upon Allah, doesn't matter which position you get into inshallah, you'll do well, if you don't have character, if you're lying, if you're stealing, if you're cheating, changing, we all have that ability to change that a lot of forgiveness as to help you start changing because character is everything, you know, how you assign how you like, travel

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everywhere, and you actually meet a lot of Muslims and stuff, like what particular characteristics when it comes to character Have you seen that we can actually work on as a Muslim woman, I mean, I would start with the most important one, which is honesty, and we lack that victim. I mean, a sister comes by and says, hey, you're just so pretty, she doesn't mean that at all. It's insincerity. And it's a lie. It's like, I don't mean it. Don't say anything. Just ask Michael, how are you? But we're in that lifestyle of like, everyone just thinks they have to say something, and has to be something nicer so that they can be liked. But they don't mean and they're not sincere? Yeah, they're

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dishonest. And Allah knows it. And it's so easy for us to slip into this, like white lie habits. Absolutely. And there's no such thing as a white lie is there. Of course, all of them are the

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lie, the lie

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that you told us about the house, importantly, the legacy and how like is one of the key qualities of a leader. So everyone knows a bit more about you. So tell us about a key milestone in your journey of leadership. Cuz you're an inspiration to many, many, many. Handle I would think, you know, one thing that's how I feel like I'm very, very not proud of the very happy with is a step I took about six and a half years ago, I decided that I was going to homeschool my children six years ago, I made this move and I had no knowledge of it. I had no support. I had no people that had done it. But I knew what I wanted and I have goals for my kids. Six and a half years later, we're going

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to fast forward and show off our first child. You know, my goal was for her to graduate at 14, to be able to write books to be able to be an international speaker, to be able to have videos, to be able to be in college and memorize a clock was a half years later, Marsha she's 13 She graduated high school, she's in college, she's in the his program, Mashallah that she's written six books. And

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you know, she's speaking all over the place. Mashallah. So I feel like, I started a journey and I begged the Lord for help. And I said, Yeah, Toby, I want them to be able to serve you in this moment. I want them to become righteous and do and without having the knowledge. We're just talked about not having the knowledge of how to homeschool. I took steps and I figured it out. And I kept searching and researching six and a half years later, the results are in Yeah, well, I feel great. But I'll praise Talat hamdulillah Bilal amin is just to tell everyone else that there is put your Nia in it be sincere, be honest, yeah, do for the sake of a lot and you will not believe what the

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results condition. So like, you know, throughout your journey, like I know that when when whenever we want to aim for big things and stuff, Allah subhanaw taala always like tests us right? So how did you actually keep motivated and like, say you came came to a point where like, Oh, I don't know about this whole homeschooling thing. I'm just gonna put it back in school kind of thing. How did you fight that resistance? You know, I did. I would when I would get very frustrated with her or get upset. I'd say during the school day, no, Mama, no, no, don't send me to the toilet.

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Winter school. So she knew what stopped me was the fact that I had already and this is so important for everyone to hear is that I already told people that I'm homeschooling. These are my goals. I put it out in the world. So I can go back now. Right? Because I made sure. I made sure everyone heard it. And it held me accountable and responsible enough to go back. Because now I've told everyone I do like

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yeah, I guess like me saying I'm going to lose 50 pounds and I don't lose it. No, if I someone lose weight, so I'm gonna lose my weight. And so it's so important that when you get the word out, then people have an expectation from you, you know, and so it can

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pushes you and motivates you not to give up. There are days where I was just like, a little annoyed. But then I knew that all I needed to do was take some stuff off my plate, relax for a day, get bill and think of and I would constant when I would come across a problem, I would be looking to have solved my problem, I wouldn't be looking at a quick for my problem to solve my month. So it's kind of like me, because we met this other day about having the right kind of mentality, or the two different. He was about something about having a growth mindset. And having a mindset that's, that's stagnant, like, you know, that, Oh, this is my situation. I don't want to change. I can't change.

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Yeah. But that's, that would tie back into self esteem, self confidence. Yeah. If you don't have the confidence and you don't have self esteem that, you know, you're not going to move anywhere, you're going to think I can't do it, I can't do it, I can't do it. And if you have that mentality, then you got two things you must do. One is get out of that environment trend, go with positive people, people who were doing things for making this happen, and hang around them and see them and just being non violent, you slowly start to crawl out of yours, because you're in an under influence. The influence is amazing. And number two, stop hanging around negative people, Harriet, because if your

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sister says I can do it, and then you read this is I can't do it. And then you'd ask if I can do and then you cousins, I mean, you gotta do it.

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But if someone says Mashallah, you can do it. And you're gonna do it. And this is how you do it. And you need that you need a positive influence to help you move to the next step. You need someone to believe in you if you don't believe in yourself just yet. Yeah, yeah, true. I mean, you see how you are telling your homeschooling journey when when things things were getting, like tiring instead of quitting altogether. You actually took a day off and stuff that's actually quite interesting. Because like, sometimes whenever we get sick or something, we might blame the whole entire goal. Or maybe it's just we just need a rest. Yeah, no, it's the same thing. Have you think about dieting?

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Okay. Yeah, the average sister out there, I'm sure everyone's dieting all the time. They think about diet. I'm just learning Walters,

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take a day off, work out five to six days a week, eat healthy by the seventh day, take it off to enjoy yourself. I mean, don't go crazy. Don't eat five servings. But take a day off and just say this is my day off. It's okay. I'm not going to exercise. I'm going to eat what I want without being so thin. And then when you rejuvenate. You rejuvenate yourself. You come back Monday, you're excited to come back? Well, it's really a break from the absence makes the heart grow fonder. Yeah. I mean, and if you think about it, for us as a health, we don't see it as a blessing. But when we can pray for several days of the month, it is a blessing, because we were so excited to come back on that

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You ready to pray again and give you full and you thought you miss it. And Allah knows that he can see him and I think that alone is so amazing to me. Like, like, you get a break. But in one sense, you don't want it because it's like, oh, I could fast again, I can pray again, I can do this. Wow, that's such a different way to look at it. I guess that kind of also ties into motivation as well. So how is it that you keep yourself motivated through all of your projects, homeschooling your books, your courses? me talking about the mission?

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Like I know that you mentioned mentioned about being around positive people and stuff, but like do you have like mentors or something that you'd hope people do what you do similar to keep you motivated? Honestly, I don't know. In the past, I've had coaches I've dealt with there were non Muslim, the majority of them, but to be honest with you, in the last like I say, five years, plus, I really haven't. What really inspires and motivates me is a Les Paul.

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My relationship with him, me answering to him on the Day of Judgment. And then the spirit of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam, the Sahaba de la mon going, constantly remembering them, their stories and what they've done. And to sit there and look at how blessed we are, where we're living and how many resources we have and to do nothing is a shame to me. It's a shame for me. So I'm motivated because I want to be able to stand in front of a Muslim woman on the day didn't forget, I'm gay did my best. I'm not perfect. I've made so many mistakes, and every day continue, but I tried my best for you. And I woke up every day. And I pushed myself out of that bed and I said no, shall I'm going

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to do this for my Lord. So it's not about the recognition of people or anyone else. But it's that recognition from Allah subhanaw taala that I seek is you know, because at the end of the day, you're totally like, you know, if I want to see his viewable face and Shawn Jenna, when they if I get there,

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I want to see that I want to feel like, you know, when I was at seventh, I tried my best. I wasn't the best, but I tried my best. And I think at the end. That's what Allah tala says he loves those who do the little things, but do it consistently. So, you know, if I exercise I only do 30 minutes a day. If I study I only take like three or four classes a semester. So you do the little things, how much you can handle fantastic points that you've given us throughout. So you can find a link to source book nine steps to achieve your destiny on our channel. And also like any last words, I'd like to save money and be motivated, be strong. Hold on to whatever you're doing and always keep

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checking your intentions, making

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For the sake of Allah subhanaw taala not, you know, being famous, being rich being the most intelligent just remembering why we're doing it. And sometimes Shakedown comes from different corners and tries to take us away from our real intention. So just keep reminding yourself that sincerity. And remember, always be honest. Thank you so much for that. Does that

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sound like?

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Okay, that concludes today's episode of the Muslim life hackers podcast, as mentioned in the show notes, which include the books that sisters offer mentioned can be found at Muslim life hackers.com slash six. That's number six. While you're at it, let us know what you've learned from this interview. Also, from time to time, we'll be dedicating an entire show to questions asked by you. So if you have a question, then simply record a voicemail by going to the life hackers.com slash pass. If your question is chosen, then it will be played and answered in our upcoming episodes. Until next time, aim high, take action and be awesome