Munir Ahmed – Session 47 The Seriousness of Adultery
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The conversation covers various topics related to sex outside marriage, the use of words like "fit," and "fitless" in language, and the use of "has been married" in relation to sexual acts. The speakers also discuss the use of "slack" in scripture and the importance of avoiding major shouldn't be near Xena. They touch on issues of shaking hands, sexual behavior, and marriage, including the idea of "outlawed sex" and the use of "has nothing to do with" in context. The speakers also mention upcoming sessions and filling out questions.
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Before I continue with Hadith NUMBER 14 by the sisters,
I mentioned something
this is seems to be a season of death. But I have to mention how the others suffer who hosts this and arranges this
hadith class on Zoom, and otherwise and involved in chapter 25. He's lost another one to one of his relatives and Uncle again. I think that's his second uncle, because of the COVID situation. So all of us, please make dua for his uncle, may Allah have mercy on his soul, giving forgiveness when we belong to Allah and to him indeed is our return is a reminder for us. May Allah forgive us of her and all your family, subtler patients in this difficult time and increase in Eman make this difficult time? Also a source of a general reward and forgiveness for all of you as well a lot I mean, does that
mean other sisters do remind you of the Hadith and this time I said I was going to go into the issue of * outside marriage or Zina which ensues from the topic of the hadith of course.
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Buhari well Muslim as an employee says from a blinder Masood saying the message of Allah Islam Salalah Islam he said the blood of a Muslim may not be legally spelt except in three situations. The married person who commits adultery, a life for a life and the person who leaves their Deen separating themselves from the Jamal from the community.
We mentioned a little bit about
the sanctity of life. Hence, that's also evident in this hadith only given three exceptions and the law. Yeah, that is the law meaning for the Hakuna for the government for the
only can this be practice by taking a very serious thing of course.
And regards to the dignity of life, I mentioned a few things that I said I will mention more to do with that in a later session. We talked mostly
in the last session about and the session before actually not in the last session. We talked about the first of the three categories which was the married person committing
adultery
and last session we talked because it was linked. That topic was linked specifically with
an idea of the Quran, which was abrogated mentioned by various Sahaba in authentic hadith so we talked last time about a nasty woman so on nessa abrogation in the Gospel Quran and Sunnah.
A summary of it, I want to come back to the topic of adultery itself, law regarding the legal ruling, which we talked about two sessions ago.
And in fact, why such severe punishment? Yeah.
In this case, taking of life through stoning, which was practiced no doubt by the sort of masala Salam. But I'm not going to mention the things I mentioned before about about the verse being taken off and to look at that mentioned those things. So you need to refer to previous things. I'm not going to mention everything repeatedly again. But nevertheless, even in even if not that, then the Quran makes sense clearly about me at agile, there are about 100 classes in regards to a person committing adultery, which is sexual * outside of marriage. So of course, the question beckons and calls.
And clearly it shows us Yeah, of course, the condition being for witnesses, which we also talked about before as well. But the question, of course, and the indication is that this is a very serious issue. And from the cover from the major sins, yeah.
major sins, in the sense that, as we mentioned before, as well, it will be very difficult actually, for this punishment to be meted out, even on a government level, because to find four witnesses who have visualized very clearly, sexual * taking place outside of a marital situation is almost near impossible
to have with four witnesses.
And hence, therefore, they as I said before, the only real situation would be afterall, somebody confessing in a real state of mind, with clarity of mind confessing and wanting the punishment.
That is rarely going to happen. The reality is
the reality is because this is left, and was also indicated in the story, or even those who had written the handful of people, that the death penalty that publicized them trying to publicize and approach was one of going away doing Tober and covering such a sin. Yeah. So towbars nevertheless, necessary, but the fact that in this center is also a worldly punishments shows its seriousness, even if the worldly punishment is almost impossible. But it can happen, but very difficult to actually implement. Why so serious? And why do I want to mention that? Because I've also in the last years, maybe in the last decade, or last few years being questions being posed by Muslims, male and
female, young ones, especially others who have said that
how they've understood it. Well, perhaps the real reason for * outside marriage not being allowed was because you wouldn't know who the children belong to. Yeah, there was no if you were sleeping with one person one night, and this is adults have mutual consent. Yeah. And that's why it's been forbidden. But nowadays, you know, we can check out through DNA checking whose child the kids etc, if they do, in fact, have children, and therefore the matter will be clarified because it's the, it's described as the worst way of having progeny or children. So therefore, perhaps it's okay now, for two adults mutually consenting to sleep with another even if it's one night, what's wrong with
that? That's how it's been put to me.
Especially when they use the idea of, you know, two adults mutually consenting of it, not in the sense of child abuse, etc. But two adults mutually consenting, what's wrong with that?
Well, actually, there is a lot wrong with it and the situation how Allah subhanaw taala the Creator God
Almighty throughout all scriptures, including the final scripture, sees this * outside of marriage as an immoral act, not only because of the children being born out and not children not being known who the father is, of course, it's very obvious who the mother is because it gives the birth
who the father is. Yeah. And even if you can find that out with a DNA check, that's not the real issue. The real issue is Allah subhanaw taala says,
In the Quran, wala Ferragosto Xena in who can afford to
be
Allah subhanaw taala says in the Quran, and do not go near Zina thinner is adultery or sexual *, whether in marriage or outside marriage? Whether I don't mean, let me clarify that whether you are married. Yeah. And then having * outside of that mode with someone else, or whether you are unmarried, and having * with somebody that you are not married to it covers both Xena do not go near it. Notice here it's very important to realize the verse in the Quran clearly saying don't go near it. Not just saying that Zina is haram as it says in another verse in Surah, Al Furqan, Lina Allah, the owner, Allah He Illa for our la lune those who are
describing Mr. Du rockburn, the slaves of the merciful they are those who do not fall on other gods besides Allah. Yet Sure, whether Yahoo to loan and necessity and they do not kill a person and let the hug Rama Allahu Illa bill have what is known as the that is that Allah has forbidden for them to take the life of another person except with truth or justice that means to the courts. Yeah.
And here in another verse, he explains the idea of precise life for a life then then the is right to go to take it to the the court or the the judge. But Allah Hayes Wallah he has known and they do not do extramarital *. Yeah.
So that makes sense it like that but a lot of problems in our clarifies for the do not go near Xena. Yeah, in the hookah. Why in the hookah for surely it is far Fisher
was a sub isla.
And here he mentioned and an evil way, what's an evil way? Sevilla here is a real is to do with the progeny. It is an evil way of producing children. Yeah. Because here it mentioned that that's part of it. That's not the only reason that's being given here. Evil way of producing children because if it's not in marriage, and somebody is sleeping here sleeping there, then there's no stability in the sense of a family situation. And married married is actually a declaration to the society that we have become husband and wife is a civil contract. Really, that's what it is mean made very easy. But that word of marriage makes such a difference as to whether it's Zina or, and therefore fascia and
an evil we're producing children or whether it's actually a pure thing that a beautiful thing. It's not the * that's filthy, but it becomes filthy fatty shell as the Quran says. What is very crude in decent shameless and obscene, obscene that's designed by Allah.
Yeah, that same act of * is obscenity, obscenity and foul. When, when the commitment of marriage hasn't taken place
in front of people saying declaring we have become a married couple. Yeah, I take her in marriage. I take him in marriage. Really? It's a simple statement. Some people may think oh is only a few words, but those words are very weighty. Therefore the Quran calls marriage me sapona Holly Ha, yeah. It is a me sock. It is a very, very strong resolution. Even if it's a few words and you know those those who got married, you know, when the man says you know
See I do when I say that I'm sorry, you feel the weight of it. You feel the weight, mentally, psychologically the weight of the words to saying I agree to marry, so and so on. Yeah. So these words are very weighty, but they change fairly sharp into that which is PA hip. Yeah. Which is pure. So, first thing to clarify, the sexual act is not filthy, but it becomes filthy and obscene and lewd when it is outside of marriage. Okay. And Allah in the Quran describes it like that. Yeah. So that is very, that's the first word that's used because it is fairly sharp. In Elkana affair, he shut down worse sebelah that's very important to realize to get away from this idea that it's only to do
with because we don't know whose child it is. And now we can do a DNA test and therefore sleep around with anybody. I mean, that's ridiculous.
The actual thing outside of marriage is foul before Allah and from the Kibera it from the major sins. Look where it comes, it comes after mentioning, shook in the Quran, here killing someone, and then about Xena, then about Xena. That's how it comes in the Quran.
So
I don't I haven't got time. I mean, the word Forge and firefish Autofest. Bush is used to something that goes anybody who goes beyond the boundaries or limits,
but especially in behavior of foul behavior, and especially in sound language. Yeah, in foul language. So for harsh and tougher push is used, sometimes interchangeably. Various linguists have described one or the other as to do with the speaking and the other has to do with speaking and behavior. Yeah. prophesizing them said we're all on what we need. ISEP and Adeline responded to some Jews who used to say prophesy some Osama Alikum instead of assalamu Alikum Yeah, meaning may you perish instead of saying please be of Allah be upon you and the prophesy Salam and this is in Bukhari Muslim said Ali Khan in response but she went further and said alagille was some yeah
well fantasy you cannot will find it and upon you be May you perish Yeah, you children of monkeys and pigs. That's why she responded. The prophesy stem told off on one minute I shut on your honor by saying
yeah, ma, ma. Yeah, it's settled. Stop. Aisha but in the hola hola. You hate billfish what the first push for surely Allah doesn't like a love. Yes. foul language and foul behavior. Yeah, of course here fine. He said it mean that she was in Zina now Hola. Well, I caught that in London that so false and tougher, which has a wider meaning, as I mentioned, but when it's used with Zina in the whole kind of fat feature,
yeah, it means Zina. It is that behavior of Xena of adultery * outside marriage is obscene and shameless.
The prophesy some sending one Hadith about he said Lacell movement and I heard committee Hadith in Sahih Han authentic hadith Lacell movements on the last limb upon Liesl movement baton wala Lian, and I mentioned this especially for us in regards to foul language the prophesy Islam, he said, a mob meme is not one who does discrediting of people and and cursing people going around discrediting. Yeah, being nasty basically and and, and, and cursing people while alpha and neither is a movement while but he is one who is going around
using foul language, a lewd behavior. Yeah. Well bezzie a foul language Cullen kabhi, as some Allama said, so swearing and using foul language is not from is not the character of a Muslim. On the contrary, the publicize them said in authentic hadith they used to say in in hayati, calm. Sign up on a clock on the best of you are those who are best in the flock and that is not seen using foul language and foul behavior as
So best of
luck or good character. Now,
when we talk about Alexa sing in the cloud, don't go near Siena, don't go near Xena. We have to see what does that actually mean? Because it's not just the fact that Zina is forbidden but Xena itself ending up in that situation has some
preamble you could say all
things that happen before you get there. So Allah suave don't go near it yet.
Allah Marino Sulan juris prudence
made a ruling
that Masada Halal haram, Boko Haram, whatever leads to haram, it is haram.
And they use it in the opposite way to what least to fund obligation. Yeah, before to be able to do the fun, then that things becomes obligatory as well. So it is a ruling put by hopefully young people are jurisprudence, but actually is it necessary. It's a dangerous ruling to use because some people wide and whatever leads to Haram is haram to things which will actually move off which were actually allowed. And I'll give you an example in a moment.
Because really, the ruling is true as long as that which leads to Haram has been made haram by Allah and His messenger by NUS. You can only make haram what Allah and His Messenger have made haram. We have no authority to make haram that which is already halal. Under the under the title of that which leads to Haram is haram. No, that's fine. That statement that ruling as long as with the proviso that that which leads to Haram has already been made haram by Allah and His Messenger anyway.
And the example of stretching this, and therefore becoming silly is the classic example of Saudi government for decades. It except in the last year or two, it forbade women from driving this is how ridiculous that can become what was the reason? Or because when the woman goes out to drive that a prerequisite a can lead to adultery. And Allah says don't go near Zina. So putting the blame on the woman going up to drive as a prerequisite as a as something that's going to lead to adultery and that's absolutely ridiculous. Did it under the the the maxim also subdivide blocking the way? Yeah, but locking the way on the basis. Maybe so.
And that's how ridiculous it can get driving, driving itself a car or a camel or riding a horse or a donkey or any kind of thing like that. There is no basis from the Quran and Sunnah for making it haram only for the woman. Not for the man. Yeah, if she can drive to a place to do haram Sakineh man.
Yeah. So you see how ridiculous and therefore in fact, repealing it, you know, in this day and age, can you imagine it becomes in the public eye and demand that the Muslim country Saudi Arabia has allowed the woman to drive in 2018 or 19 wherever it was?
Yeah, what kind of image do we give up Islam with this kind of and this is where the problem is when you overstretch? Yeah, you can make anything haram and sell well, you know, this, this, this is around right? So we have no actually
Allah subhanaw taala
the shadow and the messenger already clarify for us in that regard. What was haram?
And one of the things is halwa halwa what is halwa not halwa that the movie is like to eat the sweet dish halwa with a hot
homework is to people who are not married or Muharram those who cannot marry from the relatives being in a closed place
yet where the door is locked in a room
alone without the third person being there
without the person being there. The probably size and many 100 came like that. So some people actually stuck by this some element. The most isolated law you have no one not I don't beat him.
Writing illa ma the maximum
no man must be alone with a woman. Yeah. When hallways use is not talking about husband and wife it's not talking brother and sister. It's not talking about all the other
relatives blood relatives of those that have Macromedia it's talking about what Islam called Edge and Obeah they shouldn't be there on their own because a relationship can happen so it Allah ma the Muslim accept that there is a Muslim with them. Yeah. Various I had became lifetime finding Muslim. But I came to clarify that it can be matrimony can be just a third person. Yeah, the prophesy Islam.
It is mentioned
in Hadith
in Sahih Muslim
and this has to do with
Hadith reported by
Abdullah, the other in the US in regards to the wife of Abu Bakr, Radi Allahu Akbar,
whose name was Asma bint are nice.
But this hadith mentions of the
of the lender, as he says that a group of Bible Hashem
came into the home of the private citizen entered upon Osama bin mace who was the wife of Abu Bakr Siddiq Randall and
yeah, your magazine one day, and he saw them and he disliked it. So a group of them came. Yeah, this one not even one person or group came. And he did slight what he saw that when he came, there were a group of men already there with his life in the house. So he disliked and he makes it to the Messenger of Allah salAllahu Salam and, and he said also will Bucha to the prophets or Islam love Iraqi law Hidin I've only seen good in many she's not like that kind of woman. The Messenger of Allah Salah son confirmed that and said in the law, I've been Rahaman Varrick Allah smart Allah has made her clear that of anything like that from her meaning you don't need to have any doubts about
that she's not that kind of person. Allah has cleared her character on that kind of thing. So I'm a farmer sort of lifestyle so then the Prophet SAW Islam stood upon the member like giving a sermon and said law yet Hulan law yet hula Rajan on the yo me have
Allah more Heba t know no man single man should enter upon
a woman whose husband is away meaning that she's on her own it allow a man who is none except that that as is with him another person or to
a onesie enough. Um, I know we said about him Allah.
The gods of this earth he said one mighty that is a holler Edgerunner been built as nubby I mean, Haley Salus, ma Hua, Hua haram difficult Allah if the person is with the one that this non matter woman or not his wife, yeah, without a third person, male or female? Yeah, that is haram and agreed upon by all this kind of waste don't need to be agreed upon by the scholars that the Hadith makes it clear anyway, many a hadith make it clear.
Another one makes sense yet no two people who are actually bees not Muslim and not husband and wife alone. Except the 30 Shavon. Yeah, except the third is shape on because they're alone. So if the third is instead of shutdown replaced by another person, as this hadith clarifies, then they are no longer in halwa in Kalwa, and remember halwa
as is an opinion of Ahmed in the humble, he said, is in houses in homes, how it's described is a room where nobody can see into and the door is locked with two people being in that situation. So a public place is not halwa the public place is not halwa.
So some people said what about two people in a car
and again, this is not really halwa in a normal situation when there's windows to a car and you're in public space driving, it may become halwa it is dark in a nighttime situation and you end up in a place where the public cannot see and you park the car and you two are alone.
Two people are alone in
I in a place where others cannot see here. So it may become halwa in that kind of situation, but not in a general situation. But even in a general situation being alone even though it's not follower Yeah, so two people can be in a car situation in daytime especially and you're in public sphere, then it's not halwa that makes something haram or Halal here, but it depends on what you're talking about. And also what's going on in regards to desire and what MCSA the purpose you took the trip for together? Yeah.
What maximum purpose you took the trip for together it is not from a whole point of view that it becomes haram. So it may become haram depending on what you talk about your own maybe haram and also
the look or the touch etc. So
that's something about someone now while I'm in some couloir, of course, we have situations
where nowadays we have
you know, we have communication
through internet, one person communicating with a non Muslim or not his wife, one to one, or a telephone call one to one or face to face one to one, is that halwa No, it is not halwa halwa, they have to be physically present. So, there's the danger of doing something physically, that's why it's checked on is mentioned as a third. So that is not follow up. So, in a normal maruf customary situation, that would be allowed. Right? It becomes a macro of around from a different perspective. Yeah, whether a phone call or whether physical looking at each other. Yeah, so if now nakedness, and there is no
is there are 20 level, then that communication becomes around if you're talking that which is not right, not just general talk, like we're talking now. Yeah. And the talk becomes sexual for example, then from the speaking the sexual words you are sending and it becomes haram from that perspective. Yeah.
Can I have can be for example, it's also chat rooms, etc, maybe macro we not may not call it Halawa because of what they can lead to. So we can say Cara, I mean, in the end, for that to happen to teenage girls, especially over the last 2030 years or so actually plenty parents when a Muslim or non Muslim very worried about young girls, or through the internet being duped by 4050 year olds, or one of the 4050 year olds or 15 year olds, the 16 year old doesn't really matter. Yeah, if the conversation turns to wanting to meet etc, and attracts and etc. Like that, yeah, suggestive and making arrangements so that can change to karate essence of communication can change to that which
is disliked and dangerous. And therefore we protect our children from that and advise adults to stay away from that kind of scenario situation.
Now
while we're mentioning about the talk,
of a sexual nature, the looking of a sexual nature, even the touch of a sexual nature,
it is important for us to realize
that
touch of a sexual nature talk of a sexual nature and of course, we're not talking about husband or wife. No, we were talking about outside of marriage
and touch and listening to the other stuff of a sexual nature with a person. All of that is clearly harmful.
It is haram and I'll mention the evidence in a moment. What do I mean by
touch, touch includes everything, not just a touch to the holding hands. Touch means here kissing everything except for sexual *. All of that is haram no doubt about that. There's no doubt about that. But it is Xena is mentioned as dinner by the Prophet SAW Salam. Yeah.
As symbolic and linking it with the Xena. It is not like Xena. Yeah, but that which can lead to Xena and I'll explain in a moment. So
the sexual *
Self is Xena, which is crumb from the cada is from the major sense, however, that all these other things to do with the look, the case, the talk, etc, the footstep to go to the place to meet somebody. Yet all these are considered from the London sinful. Yes, not ca haram, but from the Sahaba from the smallest things, and then came to the Prophet salallahu Salam sahabi, which is an authentic hadith and so ya rasool Allah
He also
I have
done everything with a woman, not his wife talking about just a woman but he met I've done everything with her in one Hadith and Mason's kissing, cuddling and one Hadith Mason's a did everything with that except the sexual * The final thing. Yeah. So the Prophet SAW Salem
he
mentioned to this man and recited the remedy for it. It didn't take him and punish him again the punishment of Xena by the way, he mentioned probably salsa recited
from which is at the end of Surah 16
This is what I can
correctly remember that
was the end of aisle number 16
So number 16 sorry
not the last verse
if you give me two seconds I'm gonna have to
find it and then mention it to you and challenge I'm gonna give you the right reference
Yes sir, sorry is Surah Hood. Yeah, I am number 114 where Allah smart Allah says well, okay, Miss salah. Tara you in the heart. He was one of them in a lane. In al Hassan herb you the hipness, CG Valley Covic Raleigh Kareem. This is what the Prophet saw some told him. So establish Salah in the morning. Yeah. From morning and two ends of the day and part of the night to Enza Tara trophy in the heart from the two ends of the day and some
surely
the
what were deeds, this is a reminder for those who are mindful.
This is a reminder for those who are mindful, so prophesized them, that's the remedy he gave him. Yeah, and that is actually part of our Salah anyway. Not it's part of our Salah anyway, that's why the Prophet SAW Islam sending authentic hadith most of you know,
unless the prophesy some said, A Salawat le hunts well jump to eel Juma Ramadan, Ramadan will curfew Latina Dana Hoonah events Tony batil, Quebec
the five daily prayers from Juma to Joomla salatu jawatan Sato genre Ramadan Illa Ramadan between one Ramadan to the next, of course it means those who are fasting and those who are praying and will cathedra ah, mocha means that which wipes away the those things which wipe away sins which are in between the two in between each Salah in between each Juma in between each Ramadan. These things are more coffee than the medina one as long as the big sins that kabylia are avoided. So these are all small sin being by Tibet Subhanallah Allah's mercy and mafara. You know, we can't thank him enough. Yeah, if we sincerely do these things, so Kabbalah
and why do I
All these things including what the sahabi did
as Salah is sinful I'm not belittling it and encouraging it therefore it's fine to go and do all this No, very dangerous, very dangerous because the idea of not going there near Xena if when you end up in that kind of situation yet it is so difficult then to stop yourself from going into the actual sin cabal of Xena That's why Allah said do not go near Xena yeah which is explained in another video prophesy Salam yeah including the the idea of yet the footstep that touched on the talk the sexual talk or being halwa all those things are the pre amble before you end up in that situation dangerous situation
and the lightning bus route the Allahu Allahu Allah in Hadith and Muslim, family Muslim, he says
Mara Ito che and ashba who beloved me my father and we'll go right to Allenby, Salah Salem, and blend our bus who Sahabi himself to demand for demand. luperon He said, I didn't see anything which which explains what lemon is lemon, as is comes in the Quran. I mentioned the I mean, x better than that which the Abu Huraira reports from the Prophet sallallahu Sallam who said I'd come back to her disseminate loving Allah subhanaw taala says in the Quran Alladhina yatta yatta and Ivana Can
you help me well, he's ill lemon in now Rob back. Worse. Yeah, we'll know for those who stay away from the major things colonialism, well for whitefish and major sins and for why he includes the major sins yet from Phylicia Xena included that as well. Yeah, Ill alum except lemon.
In Rob Baca was the old buffer era. In other words, lemon is taken out from the major sins. Yeah, those who stay away from the major sins and from Xena don't free Yeah, except for lemon. Surely your Lord is wide in his forgiveness, meaning if you fall into lemon, Allah is wide and he's forgiveness. Yeah. But actually can mean also
because our callback is forgiven if we do Toba
that of course we believe that
Islam sending away those who came with the with the
with admitting
fixed outside mo don't try telling them to go away and do Toba.
Yeah, so there is forgive us of course for that as well. That's not the idea of this idea, but telling us strongly to stay away from the major sins nevertheless. And and Illa lemon because Allah knows that we will all fall in lemon in small since Yeah, of various kinds.
And that coming back from the Hadith, then that a blunderbuss that disappeared from the profits is not viable for error explains what llama means best. The small sin follow suit on my son the last limb of what I said the messenger of allah sallallahu Sallam he said katiba Allah in Adam Nasima whom in a Xena. Yeah, it has already been decided and written down for the child but children of Adam, their share of Xena and probably saw some cold days Xena
Xena
Drucker's article Mohalla he or she will fall into it. Yeah, acquire from it without any doubt, learn Behala no doubt they will fall into this.
Then he carries on what does he mean by Xena here? Yeah, of course he doesn't mean by the dz. Now what we've been told by the Quran to stay away from it completely and it's from cover. He's not meaning that is some allow Islam so he explained what he means by this kind of Xena file a Nan Zina, Huma another for the eyes. It's their Xena their adultery is the look. Looking with a lustful lucky means Salallahu Alaihe Salam well, all the nerves you know Houma at least the map and the ears they're adultery and Xena is the listening to lewd things
conversation.
Yeah, well the sounds in our mouth tell em and the tongue it's dinner is the sexual talkie means is the talk. Yeah, well yet Zina human and the hand Yeah. Or the hands their dinner is the touch whatever they touching or whatever they're doing with their hands in a sexual sense were originally Xena, Xena
and the feet their adultery is taking the footstep towards that adultery while ago yeah we attended and the heart already sent in another
version of it when nestled command now a tester he yeah and that the in the person be inside the that it wishes and desires Yeah.
It wishes and desires that then when the hands under the tongue and the eyes are doing all this while fans do what you Celtic will find you are you comfortable.
And then the private parts either either confirm this meaning he acts it out or she acts it out. Or you can own or stop themselves or or they stop themselves from the actual final thing.
So here the public signs purpose using Xena to give us warning to stay away even though even though it is from the lemon as underlined ambassadorial hold, and Homer says and death why? Because you will all fall into this. There's no that's why always I've said many occasions I've said if any saint Sufi scholar. Yeah. However religious person said that they've never looked at the opposite * with lustful eyes. With lustful gaze. They are liars. They are liars. They don't want these things because the prophesy son said all of the children a lot of them. Yeah. Yeah. Have near the Prophet sosna. We don't say look to the lustful, good prophesy some metal authentic hadith saw a
woman and she was pleasing to Him. So He went to his wife, and he had his intimate relationship with his wife to fulfill the desire.
So that's the Prophet saw, I saw no. Now.
So this is the Hadith, mentioning the sexual touching. Yeah, the sexual look, the sexual talk, the sexual listening, etc. all linked with that kind
of some people
took from this and other evidence less from this because this actually clarifies more what kind of touches some people made all looking at the opposite *, as long as it's not your wife or from the blood relatives. They said It's haram to look at a woman and vice versa and especially use it to look at a woman.
You're not allowed to do that. So they went as far as saying, oh, a woman can't stand up on the stage and give a talk a woman can't give a sermon hotbar etc. woman can't give a speech where we're constantly
there made it impossible as somebody who went as far as making the woman's voice than older which is absolutely ridiculous, which is not even from any of the classical scholars or any of the self ever came with this idea. May Omaha meaning the Wiser publicized on a on upon whom the screening of hijab came not for other women yet, but they will speak to non Muslim from behind the screen. They talk and the Quran ordered them to talk Vilma Ruth, as is customary and normal.
On the morning I stood on the line Hi, trust me transmitted more than 2000 ahadeeth Yes, he was one of Ottawa said her nephew. She was the greatest scholar he knew. Therefore men came to learn from her. Yeah, how did they learn she spoke Subhanallah so some of these are some of the nonsensical things some people made the look any kind of look as I said haram and yet the Quran and the translations also don't do justice to what the Quran says. If you look at Surah a nor the Quran
we don't
I don't think we're gonna finish anywhere near this topic today because there's so many issues linked with this that the Quran talks about, for example,
in Surah, and nor verse
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30 onwards, Allah subhanaw taala says, First addressing the men
Yeah,
because we have some this there's a prevalence amongst Imams, and I believe ALLAH and I say even with Allama with the greatest respect to them historically till this day and therefore amongst the masses of blaming any desire onto the woman because she looks beautiful
as though she should go and hide somewhere because she's beautiful. Look what Allah says first to the men. Allah had cool little more meaning I would do min ago sorry him why? Well goo for Ruhija home, rica as home and the eye goes on, say to the believing men.
Yeah, what do you mean? I'm sorry, him in some translations, you'll you'll see it says that they should lower their gaze and prefer and protect their private thoughts. It doesn't say that. It says lower from their gaze. Main here is men. It can be
bowed. In other words, not bad but bound a type of gates. And you can see the other Hadith the Hadith of the prophets or some explain what kind of gays Yeah, it is a lustful look. Yeah. So that's what Allah is not as talking about not all looking that you spent. I remember 30 years ago in the Dow work there was some people going around giving this ID you can't look up at all. So we have this we used to make a mockery that it is best to walk around on the road when there's men and women on the road, walking in with your head down men and women and bashing into lampposts and things and other people because he can't look up to just nonsensical misinterpretation of the area and the
ahadees
the looking and talking is very natural. So look what the Quran is saying. Firstly, speaking to the men that they should control from that type of gaze meaning the lustful gaze control it and protect that private part then selling to the woman Khalil mo Nina the Google does not mean Apple sorry.
Well, yeah, funnily enough, who Jaya whom?
Last weeks to the women as well. So it's not about just men looking at women. And there's some people have this idea, especially some men, but women don't have any desire. So it's alright for them to look at men is saying it's the women on the on the other hand, as well tell the believing women that they should control from their look, in other words, not have the lustful look and gaze upon the opposite * and protect their private parts. So that under Hadith I mentioned hopefully clarifies that gaze is to do with lustful gaze.
Not just any kind of general looking.
Others The other issue came to the issue of touch.
Yeah, is all touch of non Muslim and not being a wife, haram.
Some scholars came with the idea Yes, it is. And they use not the Hadith, which I've mentioned before, of dilemna Abbas in Saudi Muslim and Abu Huraira, about the sexual touch, but they use another Hadith which is reported in Torani. And by Al Hakim, not in the generally known, well known six books of Hadith, it's not even mentioned there. I'll be happy mentions it as well. And it is a Hadith which is very weak, it is not authentic. This hadith is famous nevertheless, and it says unmarked ligny Yes, sir. from Napoli vSRX the Prophet salallahu Salam said Liang Yota, Anna fee ROTC I had become where all ROTC ROTC will
be met. We mean Hadid highroller who mean and you must mean and your Messiah Imran attend la luna who it is better for a person or a man or one of you to have nails, nails made of iron
knocked into your head.
Very ugly a very painful thing than then better. That's better than he. Yeah, must say that. Then he touches a woman that is not halal for him.
Okay
so some people took from this and said, You are not allowed to touch a woman at all her hand, any part of her whether through
a sheet or clothes or whether or not especially without
because they say look, this hadith is saying it's better you have nails knocked in your head. This used to be in circulation 2030 years ago and again when we adopt while we were presented with this, firstly, it is life very weak, it is not acceptable. Hadith. Secondly, even if it is authentic, even if he's offensive, how can you have such a severe punishment like meals being pierced into your head being better than doing that with a woman? It doesn't make sense. Yeah.
Doesn't make sense. It's not rational. When a man in contrast, you have a man coming from the side by saying yes, I did everything with a woman except the final *. Kiss cuddled, you know, was naked everything I did except the final thing and the promises don't say go and do your Salah. two ends of the day and something of a night. Yeah. And good works will wipe away sins and here we're talking about nails going in your head being better than doing that to a woman compared to what he did. With Subhan Allah. It doesn't make sense. But as I said, even if it's authentic, that's not the meaning. What does must mean? It doesn't mean that we go
to the Quran.
Maria Marie has Salam.
When she's given the news of having a child as a virgin, what does she say? She says
I need a Salam.
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How can I have a child saying to Angel, the angel? How can I have a child when no man has touched me, led me and says me ne
Bashar Bashar.
Does she mean no, no man has done that to me.
Just ridiculous. He's talking about having a child giving delivery of birth. You know, even in English when you said not being touched or touch. It doesn't have the literal meaning. Yet it is a respectful way of saying that I have not nobody has had sexual * with me.
I'm blunderbuss in authentic saying and statement says when he was asked about this young Chesney aphid and another idea which mentioned landmass domani, sir, in regards to doing voodoo or making time, mum when the Quran mentions those who have done lumps with a woman. Yeah, you said it doesn't mean this. It means sexual *.
Allah uses those words to mean sexual *. And that's how we understand it. So if you want to understand this hadith, it is better for a man, even though it's not authentic, even if it was authentic, this is how we would understand it. It is better for a man to have males knocking his head down. He has sexual * with a woman who's not allowed for him. Now it makes better sense, doesn't it? If it was authentic, but it's not.
So that's in the gusta know, in the Gospel Church, therefore, they're using this hadith. Then they use the statement of the prophets Allah Salam, or to do with Bay off. The issue was based on Yeah, that was giving allegiance to the Prophet SAW Islam as a leader of Medina. Yet
by shaking the hand, that's what Yeah, was done at that time. That was the orphan the culture and the Prophet salallahu Salam, as he's mentioned authentically, if he said in Nila or Saffy, Han, except I don't shake the hands of women. That's what he said not to look down on women no, he explains it in an aversion which is mentioned as more of Malik and UNOSAT you reports it as well.
Saying Colin, the bsla in the LAOs are feeling this sir. I don't mean meat. I don't need to shake the hands of women. This is the prophets are not saying you must not shake the hands of women to the Sahaba he's saying I certainly don't shake the hands of women is Hubbard Yeah. However when he comes like that is not the same level of an order which comes you must not do this. Or I've been forbidden to do this even say that. He for example says in authentic hadith la Kulu tacky and I don't eat lying back, leaning back on a sofa. Yeah, so many Allama said
not haram but Kira but through Yeah, so probably saw some when he's saying it like that we say he finds it Karahan dislike for shaking the hands of women and he explains it in nama poly Lamia, Coco Li Li Emirati why that in my state my word with 100 women is like the word of one woman he was making it easier for women that each one doesn't have to come and give leave her home and come to give back to him by coming to shake his hands. Yeah. Yeah. And also making it this is a dis issue of doing musataha or shaking was to do with very odd not to do with greeting Yeah, this is very important to look at what is the issue here the issue is yeah, they are giving allegiance when we
talk about so they took this
some took this and said therefore It's haram to shake hands with women many have this view today you'll see on the internet
and have pretty harsh thing to say about it when they have this weak Hadith as well out of its place and context and with the wrong meaning I believe. And Allah knows best but reality of behavior of of greeting is a separate issue from beta and even if we use this evidence from the Prophet saw some and best we could say Cara not true. Yeah, my crew nothing else direct came from the pocket size back touching a woman who is not Muslim, or he's not allowed for them except that hadith about sexual touching of a woman which is described as small sin as limit. Yeah, nothing else. Okay. So then we can best we can say it is Corolla disliked. Yeah, prophesized. I'm not shaking and I want to
follow the profits. I want shake hands McCraw dislike. not simple. Yeah. Therefore it can be okay in some situations as some other scholars, okay. And this is what I believe is the best opinion. Quran Allah says in the Quran in regards to greeting, what is who you can be to hear team what is a G tone for how you that? Is if you don't be here team for how you be accent I mean, how old do her when you are greeted with a greeting, then greet with that, which is better than that? Or return it in like manner? In other words, so shaking hands in general, across genders, yet is better than just saying someone equal?
Yeah. As a general thing. So when it comes to opposite *?
Yeah, we already have the Hadith, which is authentic, we have to keep in mind
this is shaking hand if it is the Earth.
It's a cultural thing is seen as purely as greeting. Yeah, we cannot add to it sexual desire all the time.
It's the thought the only thing on our minds even shaking hands with a woman of the opposite *. Well, that's just ridiculous. To add that all the time and then put it in the minds of people as though when I'm shaking hands or a sexual can imagine what kind of crude mentality that produces in people who've got that thing in their head.
Clearly, that is nothing to do with it. And actually, I would go as far as saying some cultures it is not something that is generally from a Muslim culture so I don't encourage that we start establishing a new culture of Muslims are shaking hands embracing and kiss kiss kiss on either sides of the opposite *. Yeah, even that, culturally is not seen as sexual in the culture. His fists on either side our own bracing. Yeah. So at best, I would say it is Kurama through however, shaking hand for example, if a woman puts her hand out by non Muslim and you don't shake her hand, it can upset her I would say in that case, shaking hands is most to have recommended, recommended not to
hurt the feelings of another person who may feel and they do sometimes feel as though they are dirty, not worthy of touching because we give them that impression or an idea. Yeah.
Second, so it's can only muster hand shaking hands. Second, it could be mobile. Mobile means it's allowed. Generally fine to do. It may be my crew.
My crew? Yeah. If you don't want to follow the more
linear PE you find it as ca fine, but it may be mcru even in my opinion, because if there's a Muslim woman, for example, and she doesn't like to shake hands that you
forcibly try and shake their hands. Then there's a Corolla through because it she doesn't want to shake hands. You've upset her by shaking your hand. Yeah. So from that perspective shaking, and then in that situation can be mcru. And it is also haram, as well at times why? If you're shaking hands are given an embrace, and you're, you know, you're doing this with the hand and you're feeling sexual arousal. I mean, how often does that happen when people are shaking? But if you're so twisted that that kind of feeling you get when you say can, then it is haram for you to shake the hand of a person of the opposite * and vice versa, if the woman is that women claimed that they've got these
ideas in their head, when they shake their hand and the opposite second and feel the skin of somebody, that they're getting aroused by then, yeah, okay, it's around for you.
I've gone well over time. So that's as far as we gone in regards to some of the
things that are not linked with Xena, and some of the things which are linked with Xena. So I've mentioned specifically about halwa, about sexual look, talk, etc. We've talked a little bit about
social media chat rooms and things and shaking hands as an issue that and looking at the opposite *, not with desire, that often causes issues and it has led people to come with very strange fatawa. Very, sometimes very hard for power with just don't make sense and not contextualized.
And Allah knows best, we will continue with the topic of
Xena next time, because I want to look at issues a little bit more Completion from from this and little linked to issues with Xena to do with issues of marriage of
of the Zanni the person who's committed * outside might what is their situation regard to my regards to child that's
born from or
impregnated outside marriage? What are the rules in regards to that in regards to inheritance, etc. And also to look at
issues around that Leanna want to look at because look at the first few verses of the Quran in regards to that. To clarify, we'll look at that next time. Any questions? The next day will be a week break next week and the week after that.
As usual, I'm sorry, I've rushed things and I have so much conflicting. So I'm usually running through racing through but I hope that it made sense. And if it hasn't made sense, any of what I've covered today, please ask questions to clarify now.
Alikum Sol Rahmatullah. Could you speak a little bit about Imam Shafi and his ruling on men accidentally touching women breaking wudu? Because you just said
next time, yes. Now
if you feels a
bit of an outlier when when you consider the other three months don't say anything so strict about it? Yes. I'll explain that Unix time. And what the other say and why they say it. It does link back with the idea that I mentioned before. Okay. But if I forget, remind me, but that's what I'll start with next time because it's because I've gone well over the time, I had to start somewhere. So because we're still on the topic of touch. That's one of the first things I will come up next time Insha Allah clarify that for someone like Mr. Mason, your name as long as I don't know which sisters I'm sorry.
You can do if you don't want to mention your name. No, no, my name is Speedo Speedo. Okay.
Brother, Zephyr. Shahid raised hands. So if they have the push to get thrombotic or have the LA market Alikum.
Just a quick question, as yourself. Dr. You mentioned about the Halwa of two people.
Would it the same for doctrine a patient?
No, I don't believe that. Because here the situation is in normal situations here. You see MK served and the purpose of the meeting is very important to realize. The woman
who comes to see the doctor on a male comes to the female Doctor, what purpose
So they're coming for,
because they're ill, and they've got an ailment and they want a diagnostic treatment. So that's very important to take into context. Yeah, it's not, it's not, it's not a meeting for other purposes. So therefore, there's always exceptions to the situation, this will be an exception to the rule because of the Hajer. The need the need of a new person, requiring examination, diagnosis and treatment. Forget about halwa their brother is a woman is is the doctor, male or female allowed to examine and do internal examination of the * and * canal of the patient? Yeah, that's a lot more than having follow up. And many Olimar from classical title this clarified Yes, they are.
Okay, does that change, however,
a sub milk to that, you notice that it is also recommendation. And certainly for us as doctors to have a better better practice as it is to cover yourself legally is to have a chaperone. Isn't that right? You must be a doctor as well lasting? No, I'm not. You're not. But anyway, the doctors are if there's any doctor on here, you know that we advise that if it's a female who's coming and you have to examine her etc, is back to the call one of the secretaries or a nurse that was chaperones in hospital and outside hospital, just to cover yourself? Yeah, for that even see that even in a non Muslim society setting so nobody can point the finger at you that he did this and he did that to me
have a chaperone is a better way of dealing with it. But Mississippi Islamically Okay.
And you have the question
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anybody written any questions right?
Maybe I missed it. No, no, nothing in the chat.
Well, you still have opportunity processes must be all clear or it's all gone right over your heads
fill out some for us. You'll have some questions that what I've just said them in the last hour and 10 minutes.
So it's all clear. Okay, obviously, people have got other things to do. And yeah, it's you know, normally an hour and a quarter an hour and 20 minutes so we're coming to that time anyway. If everybody's okay with that inshallah we shall end there.
And the next session inshallah carrying on with the same Hadith and the same part of the Hadith, which is to deal with Zina is going to be in two weeks time therefore at seven o'clock inshallah and hopefully we'll send out the reminder to you as well.
Just like all our favor, we're thrilled that Werner and your humbly laid on Billa mean, a salam Wa alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh like