Muhammad West – The Revival #23

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The decline in the Ottoman Empire, Middle East, and fall in the Muslim umroom were due to a lack of learning and discussion among the Muslim population, resulting in the drop in fall's movement. The fall also affected the way people were addressed, with some being disconnected from the religious text and others being rigid. The printing press was invented by the Catholic church, and its use in Europe is widely distributed and mass produced. The speakers emphasize the importance of bringing back the idea of Islam and reforming the way it is taught in the world, as well as educating people on their religion to uphold the values of the church. The sharia is important in bringing about reform and reading the Quran in a stormy period.

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			Night number 23
		
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			and, one of the odd nights.
		
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			I know everybody looks a bit tired, but
		
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			may Allah
		
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			grant us the ability to make the most
		
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			of this evening. Ameen.
		
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			Yesterday, we introduced the gunpowder states, and we
		
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			said these are basically the last Muslim
		
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			empires or Muslim nations before
		
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			the advent that we have today where there
		
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			is no centralized power. And those those states
		
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			were the the Ottoman Empire,
		
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			the Safavid Empire of Iran, and the Mughal
		
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			Empire of India. We spoke about the Mughals
		
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			and, basically, the rise and fall of the
		
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			Mughals yesterday.
		
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			But in general, I wanna talk about the
		
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			overall decline
		
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			and how many you know, as we went
		
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			through the series,
		
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			people were we marveled at what we had
		
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			achieved as a ummah, how far we had
		
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			extended in in terms of learning and discovery,
		
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			yet we almost want to connect the dot.
		
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			How did we go from there to here?
		
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			What was the the reason
		
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			that we fell? And there are many, many
		
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			reasons that we can discuss, but perhaps
		
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			the intellectual decline can be traced to one
		
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			moment, one real event, and we'll talk about
		
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			this, inshallah, this evening. What is the cause
		
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			of the intellectual decline in the decline in
		
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			the Muslim ummah? So we spoke about the
		
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			Ottoman,
		
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			the Mongolian devastation. The Mongolians destroyed the capital,
		
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			Baghdad, which was the center of learning, the
		
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			most advanced,
		
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			center in the world. Within, also, Andalus, which
		
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			is also a center of our learning, disappeared,
		
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			wiped off the map because of the Reconquista.
		
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			And
		
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			the the lands that followed, the Ottoman lands,
		
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			the Mughal lands, these were not
		
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			centers of learning.
		
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			They almost began from scratch.
		
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			And the people themselves, the Ottomans, the Safavids,
		
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			the Mughals, are more military kind of people.
		
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			These were not
		
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			ulama in the sense both from a religious
		
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			perspective and from the dunya perspective. If you
		
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			look at the classical books of of Islam,
		
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			you would find many books being written by
		
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			the scholars of Sham and the scholars of
		
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			Baghdad, the scholars of of
		
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			of of Khorasan and Persia
		
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			or or Andalus. You would not find it
		
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			from the scholars of these areas.
		
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			And so we almost have a a a
		
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			a a a you know, starting from scratch
		
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			from these area, these regions. Also, these areas,
		
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			the ulama of those times,
		
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			you could find that the academic
		
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			discussion, the way in which we were debating,
		
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			exploring new ideas, this had disappeared. The door
		
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			of ijtihad was closed. The ulama became very
		
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			rigid.
		
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			They became
		
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			very dogmatic,
		
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			closed minded. They wouldn't discuss matters,
		
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			and knowledge was taken out of the hands
		
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			of the people and was centralized in the
		
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			ulama. Literacy itself amongst the late the common
		
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			folk. Remember we said Andalus?
		
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			Literacy was almost a 100% amongst the common
		
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			man. You would find in the Ottoman Empire,
		
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			the Mughal Empire,
		
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			literacy was just in single digits.
		
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			Very few people could read or write,
		
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			and so the culture of discussion and learning
		
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			had been lost. I mean, just think about
		
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			this. A 1000 years ago,
		
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			Ibn Sina, who writes his book Kitab U
		
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			Shifa, he reintroduces,
		
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			he reintroduces
		
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			Plato and Socrates. He reintroduces
		
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			this kind of rational thinking, which challenges Islamic
		
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			thought.
		
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			As a response, Imam Ghazali writes 2 volumes.
		
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			And then as a response to Imam Ghazali,
		
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			imam ibn al Ruzh in Spain writes a
		
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			number of volumes. This kind of
		
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			Iman Taymiyyah
		
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			he gives a fatwa which is grounded in
		
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			the hadith about talaq, and he gets arrested.
		
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			Yesterday, he wants to translate the Quran into
		
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			Persia, and he's almost killed. And so what's
		
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			going on? How is our academic thought and
		
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			our thinking going backwards? And so people were
		
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			disconnected from the religious text, and independent thinking
		
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			was closed. And this also then had a
		
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			knock on effect while the ulama closed
		
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			Islamic ulama, the religious fraternity, closed the doors
		
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			of independent thought within Islam. That's also extended
		
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			to the secular science, the worldly science. We
		
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			stopped discovering new things, curing diseases,
		
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			having new discoveries,
		
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			for many, many 100 of years. Coffee was
		
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			made haram. And we'll talk about one particular,
		
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			technology that was made haram that really knocked
		
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			us
		
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			far back. So we see the Muslims falling
		
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			behind technologically.
		
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			The ulama are also unable to resolve new
		
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			issues because they're not they're not willing to
		
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			think new. They are stuck and rigid in
		
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			their madhab system, and they reject any new
		
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			kind of ideas. Now
		
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			there's one thing that that that that caused
		
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			our fall. Many people are looking at the
		
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			history, what happened, what went wrong. We'll talk
		
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			about this one point. For that, we go
		
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			a little bit back.
		
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			751,
		
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			the year 751, this is, at the height
		
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			of the or the Umayyad dynasty,
		
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			a small battle between the Muslims and the
		
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			Chinese.
		
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			Small battle. Not many people. It wasn't a
		
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			huge,
		
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			war between, like, not in the hundreds of
		
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			thousands of of people. It was a kind
		
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			of small battle, but it changed the course
		
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			of history. It's called the battle of Talas,
		
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			the battle of Talas. And this was between
		
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			the Muslims and the Tang dynasty of China.
		
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			The Muslims and the Chinese had a had
		
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			a had a had a skirmish,
		
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			and this is deep inside Chinese territory, and
		
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			the Chinese lose. The Muslims have defeat them.
		
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			And when the Chinese retreated,
		
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			very strangely, there was a new type of
		
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			technology that was acquired by the Muslims. Within
		
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			this army, within the Chinese camp, there were
		
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			people who knew how to make paper.
		
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			Before that, the art of paper making was
		
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			unknown.
		
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			The Chinese invented paper, and through paper, paper
		
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			was a very secretive kind of technology. They
		
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			only used it to have, like,
		
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			religious texts or for the emperor. Everything else
		
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			was written on leaves or parchment or whatever
		
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			it was, and so paper was acquired. When
		
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			the Muslims captured these papermakers,
		
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			they took them to Baghdad,
		
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			and, the the technology was was was was
		
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			was learnt. This revolutionized the the Muslims understood
		
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			what this means. Now instead of us having
		
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			to write on leather or having to chisel
		
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			things in stone, we can now, you know,
		
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			mass produce
		
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			information.
		
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			This was, like, revolutionary.
		
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			And so the Muslims took papermaking from the
		
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			Chinese,
		
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			and they became the best papermakers in the
		
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			world. And as you are making more paper,
		
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			you are writing more books, you are spreading,
		
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			proliferating
		
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			knowledge across the ummah. And through that, we
		
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			had libraries and we had schools and we
		
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			had knowledge
		
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			generationally building on 1 generation, now has books,
		
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			builds them for the generation. And from there,
		
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			we had universities and all the great scientific,
		
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			discoveries, algebra, medicine,
		
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			astronomy, all of these wonderful things.
		
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			A wonderful fact that I always mention is
		
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			the 1st university in the world was established
		
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			by Alaihi Fatima Fihri, 859.
		
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			This is a 100 and well, 1,100
		
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			years before before,
		
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			Cambridge was basically established. Well, ladies went to
		
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			Cambridge. A 1000 years, a lady establishes university
		
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			in in Islam. A 1000 years later is
		
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			the first time ladies in Europe go to
		
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			university. So this is what's happening. But as
		
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			time goes on, we said that the the
		
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			papermaking then goes to Al Andalus.
		
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			They the first paper manufacturers are in Spain
		
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			under Muslim rule. And then as Andalus falls,
		
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			this technology goes into Europe.
		
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			Europe is now making paper as well, writing
		
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			books, but it's still much far behind compared
		
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			to the Muslims.
		
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			But it would be the Europeans who come
		
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			up with a new invention. They come up
		
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			with a printing press.
		
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			What is the printing press? Basically, if in
		
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			the past, if I had if I had
		
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			a
		
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			Quran and my brother wanted a Quran, we
		
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			had to write it out. You had to
		
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			hand write the Quran out. But,
		
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			Johannes Gutenberg understood that if I could have
		
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			some kind of template that presses the same
		
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			thing, I can copy
		
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			1,000 and 1,000 in the same book over
		
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			and over again. So now I can mass
		
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			produce books.
		
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			And so the printing press was invented by
		
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			the Europeans in 14/40,
		
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			and through this, they could mass produce books
		
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			and the,
		
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			and the technology now spread that everybody could
		
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			have access to reading material.
		
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			When this technology came to the Muslims,
		
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			the ulama, the Ottoman ulama
		
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			declared this thing haram,
		
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			that it is not allowed to have a
		
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			printing press.
		
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			And a fatwa was given that anybody that
		
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			uses this machine
		
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			is going to be executed.
		
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			Now
		
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			at the same time this fatwa is given,
		
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			Europe is going through a
		
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			a transformation because of this technology.
		
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			And I take a bit of a tangent.
		
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			We talk about the Protestant Reformation. We'll talk
		
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			about this for a minute. There is a
		
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			a a priest called Martin Luther, not the,
		
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			I had a dream, Martin Luther King. He's
		
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			named after this,
		
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			priest, Martin Luther.
		
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			So what is this all about? The Catholic
		
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			church,
		
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			obviously, at that time, was the most powerful
		
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			institution in Europe. They were the biggest land
		
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			owners of Europe. The kings of Europe were
		
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			subject to them, and part of their decree,
		
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			their doctrine was no person could read the
		
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			Bible except the church.
		
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			No one was allowed to have a Bible.
		
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			In fact, the Bible was not even in
		
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			the spoken language of French or English. It
		
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			was in Latin, which the people couldn't speak.
		
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			And because the church made it so that
		
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			we are a clergy, you can't get to
		
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			God. You need to go through us to
		
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			get to God. And so this man, Martin
		
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			Luther, was a priest. He started off as
		
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			a lawyer. He had a a life,
		
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			a life threatening experience and then he said,
		
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			I'm gonna become a priest. And as he
		
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			goes into the the priesthood, he sees a
		
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			lot of things within the church that he's
		
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			not okay with. One of the things is
		
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			called an indulgence. An indulgence is basically that
		
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			you come to the MJC. They say, MJC,
		
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			I'm gonna give you a donation. Masha'Allah, how
		
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			much you're gonna give? A R1,000,000? Fantastic. You
		
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			give us a R1,000,000 donation. We're gonna write
		
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			a certificate out for you. This tells you
		
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			you have a get out of jahannam free
		
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			card. We give you permission to get out
		
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			of jahannam. This is called the indulgence. The
		
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			Catholic church was issuing this thing,
		
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			and he thought to himself, how is this
		
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			possible?
		
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			How could the church
		
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			offer
		
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			indulgences
		
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			to save people from *? What authority do
		
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			we have? And as he dug deeper into
		
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			the the workings of the church, he found
		
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			so much of what was being taught by
		
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			the people was not aligned to the Bible.
		
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			Now because the people didn't have access to
		
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			the Bible, they weren't allowed to read it,
		
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			it was really the church that were, you
		
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			know, taking, you know, taking control of of
		
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			of
		
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			of of the society. They were basically misleading
		
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			society. So he writes a thesis
		
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			around all these problematic things within the church.
		
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			Now these were not new ideas.
		
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			This kind of thought was not new, but
		
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			now he's got the printing press. So, well,
		
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			there were priests before that raised this concern,
		
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			and they wrote to the church, and he
		
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			just got buried, he now took this, and
		
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			he mass produced it on the printing press.
		
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			And,
		
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			also, the fact that we could now translate
		
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			the Bible in the spoken language of the
		
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			people, he was from Germany, and they could
		
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			mass produce the Bible,
		
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			people had access for the first time what
		
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			was a very secretive thing with the church,
		
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			and this led to a whole reformation. Now
		
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			interesting, if you look at his reforms, remember
		
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			we spoke about Ibn Taymiyyah
		
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			trying to go back to,
		
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			reforming or reviving Islam. Look at what he's
		
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			saying. He's saying that we must go back
		
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			to the original scripture of the Bible. We
		
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			should cut out interpretations which don't align with
		
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			the Bible. We should,
		
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			every person has
		
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			He's basically
		
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			looking at what is happening in the Muslim
		
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			lands, and that is why the first
		
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			Muslim the first Quran that's translated into German,
		
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			the person who writes the forward is this
		
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			Martin Luther.
		
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			Martin Luther
		
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			is inspired
		
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			by what he's seeing with the Muslim that
		
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			with Islam. We don't have a clergy. We
		
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			don't have a pope. Everybody has access to
		
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			the Quran. Everybody can read the Quran. Everybody
		
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			can interpret the Quran within certain
		
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			framework,
		
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			and this is what he says. What? We
		
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			should have the same thing within Christianity. And
		
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			so he leads a reformation, and this reformation
		
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			turns Europe upside down. Many of the the
		
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			the the the European,
		
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			monarchs are in favor of this because now
		
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			the church doesn't have a monopoly on land.
		
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			The monarchs cannot take repossess a lot of
		
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			the land from the church because you don't
		
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			have a link between God. Each and every
		
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			one of us can do our own thing.
		
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			And so with the reformation,
		
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			the church's power gets diminished,
		
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			books becomes widespread,
		
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			scholars are able to interpret themselves, and because
		
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			of this, we have
		
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			a a a spread of learning and intellectual,
		
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			you know, intellectual explosion within Europe. The same
		
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			time, the Ottoman Khalifa has declared it haram
		
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			for for us to print books. And so
		
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			now we see the imbalance beginning.
		
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			Now as time goes on,
		
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			when the Muslims were kicked out of Spain,
		
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			many of the Spanish
		
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			had a printing press. They had this technology.
		
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			When they came to the Ottomans, they said,
		
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			you know, what this we've got this amazing
		
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			technology. And the Khalifa then decreed that Muslims
		
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			are not allowed to use the printing press.
		
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			The Jews are allowed to use it and
		
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			the Christians. So what you have now is
		
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			you have a very highly educated literate Jewish
		
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			population,
		
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			Christian population with an illiterate Muslim population. Also,
		
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			one of the reasons why the ulama this
		
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			was because of the ulama. Right? The Khalifa
		
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			would not have this decision if it wasn't
		
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			the ulama telling him, if you do this,
		
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			we're going to jahannam. Why did they say
		
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			this? Because they also did not want to
		
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			diminish their power and authority.
		
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			And their fear was, look what's happening in
		
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			Europe. Because of this, all these modern ideas
		
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			are being floated around. The church is collapsing.
		
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			If we allow the people here to have
		
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			books and read it themselves,
		
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			tomorrow, you know, it's going to be crazy.
		
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			So we shouldn't have this. How long does
		
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			it take before the Ummah decides, you know,
		
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			this this can't continue? Let's see.
		
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			So the printing press is developed in 14/40.
		
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			300 years later, still no printing press. Eventually,
		
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			Hungarian,
		
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			diplomat who embraces Islam, he has to write
		
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			a book to the Khalifa and says, Sheikh,
		
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			there is no we are falling so far
		
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			behind the Europeans now. You have to allow
		
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			this to come about. We have to allow
		
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			that we can develop books so that our
		
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			people can read and we can educate our
		
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			people.
		
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			Eventually, the Khalifa says, okay. Fine. But you
		
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			can't print anything in Arabic. No Arabic books.
		
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			No Islamic books. Only a set limited amount
		
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			of books you can print, which we will
		
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			give you. So this continues for another 100
		
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			years. Very limited amount of printing in the
		
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			Ottoman Empire. Nowhere else printing press in the
		
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			Muslim world. Eventually, in the 1800,
		
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			a printing press arrives in Cairo.
		
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			Who brings it? Napoleon. Remember I said Napoleon
		
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			invaded Egypt? When he invaded Egypt, he brought
		
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			with him an Arabic printing press. Why? Because
		
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			he understood propaganda. I need to communicate with
		
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			the people here. I need to tell them
		
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			that I am the new in fact, many
		
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			people thought it was actually Muslim because he
		
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			was saying I'm here to save your religion.
		
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			I'm trying to uphold, and he he wrote
		
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			about how much he admires Islam and. How
		
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			does he communicate with him? Through pamphlets. He
		
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			brought a printing press with him. And so
		
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			when he left, he thought, I'm not gonna
		
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			bring this whole thing back, this machine back
		
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			to France. I'm just gonna leave it here.
		
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			And that was the printing press, the first
		
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			one that we had. The places like Hawaii
		
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			and Tahiti had printing presses before Cairo, Baghdad,
		
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			Constantinople,
		
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			Istanbul.
		
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			And so by this time, the gap, 400
		
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			years, where the Europeans are learning, developing, developing,
		
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			more millions and millions of books are being
		
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			pushed out. We are still writing books by
		
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			hand. We are so far behind the Europeans,
		
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			and this is where that gulf now you
		
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			understand the big gap between us and them.
		
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			And so the most educated and so the
		
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			Muslim ummah is miles behind the Christian world
		
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			or the Europeans. And within the Muslim lands,
		
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			And the only people who are actually learning
		
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			are those who leave the Muslim lands, And
		
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			the only people who are actually learning are
		
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			those who leave the Muslim lands. They go
		
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			to European the European cities. There, they learn
		
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			and read. When they come back and they
		
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			see Islam and the the practicing Muslims are
		
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			so far behind, the idea comes that the
		
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			problem is Islam. Islam is the cause of
		
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			stagnation.
		
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			Islam is the cause of being backwards, that
		
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			it is the Sharia that must be gotten
		
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			away. It's not the ulama. The blame is
		
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			now put on Islam, and, therefore, you're going
		
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			to find a wave of
		
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			modernizing.
		
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			Now you'd find the term reformation.
		
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			Now I I remember the series. The series
		
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			is called a revival. Islam, we don't do
		
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			a reform.
		
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			There's nothing in Islam that needs to be
		
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			changed or reformed or developed. Islam is perfect.
		
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			If anything is going wrong, we need to
		
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			revive something which was lost, and that's what
		
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			Islam needs to go through, a a revival,
		
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			not a reformation. Christianity had to reform itself,
		
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			had to fix everything that was broken. For
		
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			us, we need to bring back all the
		
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			ideas, all the concepts, all the discoveries we
		
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			had, and this series has shown We had
		
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			ruled the world and led the world. We
		
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			had no conflict between the sciences of the
		
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			duniya and the learning of the sharia. In
		
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			fact, one complimented the other. We lost the
		
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			plot somewhere. Us, not the Sharia. And so
		
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			we'll talk insha'Allah. With that, the, basically, the
		
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			gunpowder states, the Muslim,
		
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			falls way behind and the colonial period begins.
		
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			Our lands become invaded and Islam gets pushed
		
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			further to the back. How did we keep
		
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			our Islam alive in this very dark period?
		
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			We'll talk about
		
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			that tomorrow.
		
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			Last last question,
		
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			we asked
		
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			was the first in the to translate the
		
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			Quran into which language? To into Persian. Right?
		
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			The first Persian,
		
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			translation.
		
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			Sister Amina Kasim?
		
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			Sister Amina.
		
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			Shamir.
		
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			And then today's question,
		
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			in in which battle took place 751 between
		
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			the Muslims and the Tang dynasty? This battle
		
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			caused us to discover paper.
		
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			The name inshallah is is is there.
		
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			Just a reminder that Ki Amuleh will be
		
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			20 past in inshallah.