Mohammed Hijab – What if Andrew Tate said THIS
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Mariam Francois
Serra is a 42 year old French journalist
who's done some good works for, the Palestine
cause. In fact, she's recently come on and
Zeeshan's master general had a video supporting her.
The Dawa boy Zeeshan is supporting her because
of her good works
for Palestine.
And also she I remember watching some of
the things that she used to do on
something called Big Questions, which is a program
that's come over Sunday in the UK. And
she was one of the main protagonists. In
fact, advocating the pro Islamic position, you know,
clarifying some of the misconceptions about Islam. Very
articulate, very good and,
unfortunately, I don't know what's happened but she's
embroiled herself in what I'm gonna be calling
this sexual name calling scandal.
And I don't understand where this came from.
1 of my friends sent me a lecture
of hers where she delivered
and she delineated her positionality, if you wanna
call it that, both theologically and ideologically. I
wanna leave you
with one clip and then come back and
respond to it in kind. Defensive posturing about
the great gains Islam brought for women in
the 7th century
says nothing about whether or not it can
continue to be a force for good in
the advancing of women's rights today. This first
clip here, okay, she is questioning whether or
not Islam is a force of good in
the modern world.
Now someone may make a plethora of different
excuses for her and say that she was
just doing this. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what she
means by Islam. Maybe she means in a
civilizational sense. Maybe she means it in some
other sense. Okay. No problem. Let's look at
the second clip. And high profile cases of
sexual slavery from India to here in Europe
are sadly far too common. But surely, the
question shouldn't be whether Islam
is uniquely oppressive towards women,
but more so why it isn't providing the
liberating principles, which was so critical to the
prophet peace be upon him's early message.
Moving to textual Islam itself, there are undoubtedly
verses and sayings of the prophet peace be
upon him, which continue to cause concern in
their current understanding.
The juristic
and exegesis based heritage
is, in many ways, deeply patriarchal
and at times
undeniably misogynistic.
So here she is talking about hadith. Now
Islam is comprised as many people know, Quran
and hadith. These are the primary sources
of Islam.
And she's talking about the Hadith, the prophetic
sayings which are the Hadith
and in their jurisprudential
understanding which is the mainstream normative traditional understanding.
And she's questioning
whether or not they're misogynistic. And she is
actually saying that they are undeniably
misogynistic. Now,
once again, if I were to go in
the street now and ask people
whether or not they would think
that a Muslim could say this, I think
that they would say no. I would say,
if I were to put the words of
Marianne Francois Serra to people in the streets,
they would say this
is likely said or these words are likely
said by some anti Islamic proponent.
Someone may say okay well maybe she meant
that, maybe she meant this. Let's take a
look at the 3rd clip. Progressive
interpretations
continue to argue that this is merely a
symbolic
gesture.
Symbolic symbolic of what? We must question.
Of power relations, which give men the right
to treat grown women like petulant children.
My feeling generally about religion is that it
ought to elevate the soul to higher ethical
planes. If we fall back on the all
too easy, 'these
are problems found everywhere',
the question remains of what exactly Islam is
contributing
to improving
women's lot rather than adding its own layer
of culturally or religiously specific justifications
for these injustices.
So here, she's talking about a verse in
the Quran,
434, chapter 4 verse 34 and she is
quoting
a progressive interpretation
in her words and she is rejecting this
progressive
interpretation. My question would be then, if you're
rejecting the most progressive interpretation
of 4 34,
what interpretation do you accept? Do you accept
any interpretation? Because the the answer to this
question implicates you as either a Muslim or
a non Muslim. So if you say, no,
I don't actually believe in this verse and
say what Amina Wadud said, who was a
feminist,
who said, I had a conscientious gap when
I looked at 4:34. She said these are
the words of Jews. I had a conscientious
gap. Okay.
If that's your position, then the question is,
how is it the case that you still
identify as a Muslim? I mean, this would
be the question I then ask because Islam
is you believe in every single word of
the Quran. You believe in every single
instruction given by the prophet. This is what
Islam is. But it gets worse actually because
as I was listening to these kufri statements
and statements of disbelief and statements of deviance
and all these kind of things, and I
was just feeling sorry for her and actually
feeling a great
deal of disappointment,
actually.
There was something else that I realized that
she was actually making blunders,
about the Islamic tradition. Let's look at the
4th clip and take a look at what
we're talking about.
Regard pregnant women as models of meditation because
of the recognition
of the superhuman levels of concentration and transcendence
required in labor.
Women are quite literally
masters of meditation to be studied and learned
from. All I could find in these out
sources was some advice about eating dates.
It's sad and telling that pregnancy, and childbirth,
and child rearing are not afforded
the preeminence in our scholastic
manuals that they ought to, but just viewed
legalistically
through the dry prism of juristic formalities.
So here she says that she compares Islam
and and this is astonishing actually. It's actually
outrageously astonishing because
she's comparing Islam with Taoism. Okay? And she's
saying that when you look at the Taoist
tradition,
you see that the pregnant woman, for example,
she's being described in this way which is
she has super human meditative capabilities.
And comparing that with what she found in
Islam, all she could find is a few
scraps here and there about women taking dates
when she's pregnant.
Now, this
is a ridiculous thing.
Now, to my knowledge, she does not have
access to the Arabic language number 1. But
I will say to you, you don't even
need access to the Arabic
language. There are hadith of an eschatological
nature, of a spiritual nature. For example, the
hadith of very famous one. If a pregnant
woman
dies giving birth then she dies a shahid,
she dies a matah. I don't think the
Tawas tradition or the Christian tradition or the
Jewish tradition or any other tradition actually has
a hadith this explicit.
And this
respecting of the woman's position as a pregnant
woman, exactly the category that you have spoken
about.
Of all things you could have mentioned,
you mentioned the thing which Islam puts so
much stress on and gives so much
respect to women on. And I could speak
for hours about this actually. But it shows
with all due respect your ignorance on the
matter. So So for example in chapter number
46 of the Quran where Allah mentions
about the mother
that the woman when she is pregnant,
she is doing so in a state of
difficulty.
And when she is giving birth, she is
doing so in a say of difficulty. There
is commemoration, there is recognition
of the woman's position as a pregnant
woman. Okay. In the Quran,
I would argue more than any other ancient
religious text. Okay. For you to to make
a mockery out of yourself, not even the
Islamic tradition, by misrepresenting the Islamic tradition
and saying that what all I could find
was a few things here about the dates
and this and that. It shows it shows
your ignorance on this topic. It does show
your ignorance on this topic. But putting that
aside okay,
let's get to the scandal and the title
of this video. What is the scandal?
My friends were sending me some things yesterday
after she, blocked me on, on Twitter
and I didn't understand what was going on.
I mean, she she's now attacking the dower
guys and then she blocked me. And then
she, it turns out this woman has been
trying to get my attention since 2022.
And she's been,
you know, quote tweeting me or whatever it
is
and saying things, let's take a look at
the screen and see what we're talking about
here. Referring to, me and others
as Muslim incel Twitter. And then on the
other hand, we're the f boys. She referred
to us famously recently, Ali has a video
responding to that, as f boys. Okay? I'm
not gonna use the the profanity here. But
she's referring to us as f boys, which
if you look at the urban dictionary, whatever
it is, that you have to look at
means a man who's sexually promiscuous. I mean,
he's going from one to another, casual *,
these kind of things. But an incel is
an involuntary celibate. So, am I are we
having * with so it's because the contradictions
in it. I mean, are we having *
with all these women? Or are we involuntary
celibate? I mean
But why is it the case, Mariam?
Sorry, I'm gonna address you directly now and
don't
don't get any ideas.
But why is it the case
that whenever you mention either myself or the
Daoist sector in general,
there's some comment of a sexual nature that
happens. What kind of predator behavior is this?
What kind of harassment is this?
Now, this is it's an honest question.
Both of these both of these things here,
incel has to do with a person's
non engagement with *.
F boy is someone's over engagement with *.
Why is it whenever you mention the Dawah
boys or Mohammed Hejab or quote to imbalances
and that try and get his attention, try
and their attention. Why is it all the
time that you're now mentioning making references to
sexual *
of a, you know, in the connotation, the
subtext of what you're saying? What's going on?
If I were to ask you a question
and this is the title of this video.
What if Andrew Tate has said the same
thing?
Andrew Tate's somebody and we're not afraid to
criticize him. We've I mean, I made a
video just last week criticizing the man for
his alliances with,
the right wing.
Just last week, he got 300,000 views.
But he's been lambasted.
I mean, the mistakes that he's made in
the last year,
okay, over religious nature. He's been lambasted by
the Muslim community. Men and women, by the
way. Both. Both have lambasted him. You've been
a Muslim for 20 years as a revert.
Yeah?
You've been a Muslim for over 20 years.
And you're now
making all these mistakes that we've seen here
of a theological nature, which
And by the way, I've not seen any
reprimand of, surprisingly surprisingly surprisingly, Annie. And now
you're taking a segment, a subsegment of men
and you are generalizing them, you're speaking about
them in this
way?
What if andrew take has said the same
thing about muslim women? Let's say for example,
for the sake of argument, hijabi influences.
Like substitute,
dawah boys with hijabi influences and let's make
Andrew Tate the one who said the same
statements.
What kind of outrage would there be?
The answer to this question
quite frankly shows you the level of misandry
that exists in the Muslim community and at
large.
And what is misandry?
It is the hatred of men. I'm sorry
to say this is a reasonable inference to
the best explanation.
Why is it that when one makes a
mistake and he's been a Muslim for 1
year that you have all of this attack
and you've been a Muslim for 20 years
and making all these theological mistakes attacking subsections
of Muslim society
using colonial narratives,
using liberal and feminist narratives which are knowledge
productions of the west. Now you're imposing them
on us.
You want Islam to fit in line with
that that model and you're attacking subsections. Why
is it that you can say that? Unchecked
and unaccounted. And if we say anything, oh,
but she's a pro Palestine activist. What do
you mean?
What do you mean that she's a pro
Palestine? She can see what she wants.
She she was lecturing for the Dean Institute,
which is her ex husband Adam Dean, who
used to be part of Quillium, who was
colleagues or connected with Tommy Robinson.
She was part of a ecosystem
of anti Islamic propaganda.
And don't let anyone fool you. With all
due respect,
don't let anyone fool you. Just because somebody
claims to be a Muslim. Like the Quilean
Foundation, you have people like Majd Nawaz.
Now he's changing for the better. Or maybe,
I don't know. I'm not gonna interrupt a
person when they're doing a good deed. If
he's going if he's repenting and he's going
in the right direction, good.
If he's not then Allah will be the
judge of him. But he was part of
that and he was claiming to be a
Muslim but at the same time doing everything
anti Islamic. Allying and sitting
and collaborating with Tommy Robinson and other far
right people like Sam Harris.
If you're part of that ecosystem now, yeah,
and you're disseminating
this kind of falsehood,
Theological deviance.
With all due respect,
with all due respect, it doesn't matter if
you're wherever you're from, whatever country you're from,
whatever gender you are. If you as a
feminist, I'm not even gonna judge you by
Islam now. I'm gonna judge you on feminism.
If you as a feminist want equal rights,
then prepare to face equal
refuting you just because you're a woman. That
would be
a disrespect to your feministic sensibilities.
You will get refuted and repudiated
and humiliated even if it needs to be
done. Okay? If you come out against any
members of our society and just because you
had that card. I don't know if you
still identify as a Muslim. As a Muslim,
now you can go further than any white
feminist could by the way. A white feminist
could not say the things that you're saying
without being labeled as an Islamophobe. Just to
let you know. And you know just because
you had membership of that group at one
point time and once again, I don't know
if you still maintain membership
there. That you can go further and in
the same video you're attacking Mamal Khazali, you're
attacking Khortobi,
you're attacking a Shaafi'i,
huge scholars and you can't even speak, you
can't even,
pronounce,
enunciate the Arabic language properly. And you have
the right now you think because you've
got you've had some western education that you
can go and attack a whole different tradition
with your colonial mentality. No thanks. I don't
think so my friend.
But I'm gonna end this with a good
note because someone will say, well guys
I understand where you're coming from and you
have convinced me. I know many women that
will be watching this video are gonna say
that. You've convinced me and yes we do
have double standards. Yes there's a problem with
misandry and society and all that kind of
thing. You have convinced me hijab,
But let's be honest Hajab you have some
staunch opinions as well. You're a bit strict.
You've been a bit exclusionary with women
as well in your discourse. Putting aside that
feministic extreme
of Mariam Francois Serra, the Lawrence of Arabia
of the modern age that's coming in and
trying to dis
disunite us.
Yeah?
Putting that person to the side, you still
got staunch views and your your discourse is
exclusionary.
What I wanna say to you is this,
I hear what you're saying and we're here
to make this into a complimentary system. Men
and women should not these these gender wars,
we wanna create a cease fire. And we
need to understand that yes, this is a
complimentary
system. Men and women should come together
and not have this embitterment and this hatred
and this unnecessary resentment towards each other in
the community. And instead we're working together in
the community. This is what I am now
a proponent of. I'll be honest with you.
If there was a war between men and
women, I take the I take the side
of the women.
I love way more women than I do
men. Trust me. There's more way more females
that I'd want to protect than men. If
there was a war between men and women,
I take the side of women. Putting all
that to the side though.
I'm saying we have a complimentary system and
we have a shared struggle.
As a minority, we don't wanna marginalize ourselves
further by infighting.
We do want unity,
Which is why
And this is gonna be shameless here but
I'm gonna do a plug here for the
series.
The series that's gonna come out and change
the world is called Burning Hands. And it
does tell the story of Muslim minorities in
the west. It tells the story of Muslim
minorities struggle
far right people like Tommy Robinson who this
person was loosely connected with.
We'll we'll tell the story of our struggle
against
all of these forces.
Young people,
men and women. Yes. I know we've gotten
some controversy because of it. We do have
women in the show,
but we can't tell the story about Muslim
people without Muslim women. This show is gonna
come out on the 22nd July on this
channel. It's gonna be free to watch and
gonna come out at 7 o'clock London
time. I'll leave you with the trailer. Assalamu
alaykum.