MH Podcast #14
Mohammed Hijab – Sneako – Censorship, Red Pill & Islam
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Salam Alaikum wa Rahmatullah cattle. How're you guys doing? Welcome to another episode of the M H podcasts, very irregular podcast, but an exciting one nonetheless. And we've got a very exciting guest snicko A very notorious, prolific YouTuber, who, unfortunately has been D platformed. An individual who has actually been mentioned to my knowledge in in Senate and the Senate in the United States of America. Because of this, this issue of censorship, I think, is a good place for us to start. So Nico, what exactly happened? Did you break any community guidelines such that you could YouTube could decide to take you off the platform? Yeah, I would like to call myself a former
Rumbler. I mean, former YouTuber now Tumblr, and I guess I did break community guidelines. But there's a very specific guidelines. And there's a specific narrative that they're trying to push what they're, what they're allowed, we're allowed to talk about and we're not allowed to talk about. I already I don't want to get you a strike if I talk about the certain issues, but it relates to Big Pharma and Pfizer, and the election misinformation, cyber bullying, just, you know, random, random political issues that they want you to have a specific idea about, and if you don't, they want you to believe so to cut you off. Will you give it a strike and then a second strike and a third strike,
or was it just one go? It was three strikes, but the last two came in the same week. And the last actual strike was was circumvention. So I had a strike for cyber bullying for video that was a couple months old after the COVID misinformation after election misinformation. And then they gave me a circumvention strike because I posted on my second channel saying, Hey, guys, I got a strike. I can't stream for a week. I'll see you soon. And they said that I was circumventing the band by still posting. And not only do they delete my my two channels, but also any fan channel, anybody who had sneak on the title that were uploading clips and I allowed people to encourage people to go and clip
it up and put it on Tik Tok YouTube shores, IG reels had been there wiped out completely. And I even made that new channels afterwards banned, they they are actively trying to wipe it out. And that was played in the Senate committee for inspiring domestic terrorism for platforming somebody that they call a Holocaust denier and singing Jewish song.
And my question to you is, first of all, did these tracks happen within a very short period of time? Or did it happen over a long period of time, in a short period of time, it was about a little less than a month, and I even had some false strikes. If they tried to get me for one point, I was wearing what I'm wearing now, wearing a tank top and I was doing push ups. And they gave me a * strike. And but I was able to appeal that. But I mean, there was a lot of instances if people were watching my stream on bots, who before I was banned, they saw that they were actively censoring it all the time, if I were talking about 911, suddenly, the stream would just shut off in the middle.
They saw me get played in the Senate, they saw them many, many times, like certain subjects, the stream would just freeze and the user would say policy violation stream off. When did this thing start happening? Is it was there a turning point? Because from my understanding your content or your character and your persona have changed throughout your kind of public life? Maybe some of the things that you were saying in the beginning was more in line with some of the liberal values and then you became a little bit more other people say that you've become red pill. Is that a fair assessment? Or is that not fair assessment? I wouldn't say yes or no, there were certain ideas that
I would follow that were liberal, but at the same time I was I was undercover Red Pill red pill for a long time. I voted for Trump in high school when I was 18. That was the first president presidential election that I participated in. And I kept that secret for a while when I was in college because I didn't want to get called a racist Trump supporter. And as well, even back in 2015, I was talking about feminism and why that's a lie. And I was talking about how I was inspired by Malcolm X specifically. Obviously shout out to he had a transition from a nation of Islam to actually going to Mecca and having his harsh is that the correct terminology. You so you have your
heart.
Is that the right word? Yeah, how jet? Yeah, that's right. You have your Hush. Yeah, you can say you've done a hedge or you've gone. Gone, gone to hedge or fine. Yeah, I was talking about that. And how Malcolm X really inspired me and I was talking about feminism is brainwashing. And I was talking a lot of red pill ideologies. But I would say the one minute podcast series, this was a street interview series I did in New York City, I still do it. But it's a little bit difficult now because of the cancellation. But I did this one minute podcast. Here's why it's set up a microphone and a table in the middle of the subway stations in New York City. And so just interview people. And I was
asking questions that I really wanted to figure out what the public thought about because there was these ideas being pushed in 2017 2018 like fat acceptance and just ask people is it okay to be fat and seeing people
We'll try to justify why it's okay to be fat and not knowing why we're asking people are men and women equal? Everybody really wanted to say yes, men, men and women are equal, but they had no reasoning why? So figuring out that everybody was programmed to operate over with feelings over facts. I think that really made me realize how much brainwashing there is and what I would say fully read pilled me?
And how has your life changed, like in terms of maybe not to be too personal about this in terms of your might, for example, finances or something like that? Before and after YouTube? So for example, now that your your rumble ticket, and I don't know what other I think you're on Twitter as well, of course.
in STATA, yeah. So you're on a couple of streams, but obviously, YouTube has monetary, like, advantages. You can have advertisements, you can have sponsors, and all that. Have you taken a hit financially from this? Well, when they canceled me off of YouTube, they froze about $200,000 from ad revenue, I was doing really well on Google AdSense. And one thing for anybody listening, they if they terminate you, they keep all the money that they owe you. They froze my AdSense account as well. But financially, I've just have to be more diligent now. And the truth isn't just and Dave was telling me this, that you can't rely on AdSense, when you're talking about this, like there's no
point in ever relying on advertisers, you need to start your own businesses. So I have my course the creativity campus to a really well, it's actually releasing tomorrow at midnight, I'm not sure when this is going to go up. But that's my private network where I teach people how to make money online. And I have a lesson every day from different wealth creation methods. And also, it's a network of people who want to go and find like minded people who want to make money online and start a business. So also rumble, hustlers University, or it's more, it's more curated to a specific group, I'm only limited get to 1000 people, because I do a lot of the lessons I'm in there. I was in there
last month, three times a week talking to people and answering questions and teaching people bringing on different professors from drop shipping and ecommerce web design crypto, trying to teach people and bring everything that I've learned I've learned a lot in the past few months from a lot of different millionaires. And so I'm trying to bring that to my to my audience. So it's more curated and specific. And also, it's a networking community. I there's people in there that have met and actually moved together and started businesses together from that community. Because I've always attend the idea that it's hard to find like minded people with this circle that around you a lot of
people that I grew up with, you know, they're playing fortnight playing GTA smoking weed, playing FIFA, doing the same things that we were doing back when we were 1617. And so that's fun. There's nothing wrong with that. But I'm on a constant journey of growth. And I can't grow if people are constantly playing FIFA. So the people that I work with, I've all met them online, and I want to provide that for the people that watch my streams.
I see I see. And so you're talking about your own personal journey? Have you looked into Islam as a as a way of life that you could potentially embrace yourself at all?
Of course, I have. I've been thinking about Islam for a long time. I think the first time that I was really seriously considering it, people people will think that I'm lying about this, but I was really infatuated with Malcolm X when I was very young, his autobiography, seeing his his journey, and how he went from living a degenerate life, you know, stealing, robbing, pimping, dealing drugs, and then finding Islam as well, first a nation of Islam, but then finding, you know, a true, the true religion, which he called it of Islam, and also seeing how he transitioned from being a militant person who wanted to who was really pro segregation. He the reason that he maybe he wasn't
assassinated early was because he agreed with a lot of the white supremacist that Martin Luther King was fighting against. So Malcolm X was pro segregation, just on the opposite side. And he was realistic. And he was also warning people about white liberals. I really, I think that's that's relevant to this day that he said that you can't trust white liberals because they pretend to be on your side. But they're really even more of a snake than the people that are in charge of everything. So I think that he was he was a realist, but seeing at the end, how he was able to grow. And when he went to Mecca, and he came back, he started advocating for peace, and he started advocating for
unity, and he started advocating for love. And I think that was the transition from the nation, Islam of Islam to Islam, and I actually, I think that's why they assassinated him, because the one thing that can get you in trouble with the powers that be is trying to spread the ideas of love.
But to answer your question earlier, I just wanted to clarify that anybody interested about RUMBLE, RUMBLE, AdSense is better than YouTube per view. YouTube takes a bigger cut for from super chats from everything Rumble is a very viable option. Obviously, there's less viewer there's less active audience members, but rumble the ad revenue is better than YouTube.
Interesting. Going back to the point I was talking about, I mean, have you looked at various parts of the Quran yourself or like any Have you seen any particular videos or any war? What do you know of Islam as it stands? What would you how would you summarize what you understand?
I have my manager, his name is Islam. My former editor is prays five times a day. I've seen a lot of your videos, I've seen a lot of your debates in Hyde Park in London.
I have a very strong Islamic audience even before I started streaming and people say that I fully embrace the red pill. I used to do meetups before I like you know, the streaming stuff. But when I was just making YouTube videos, I used to do meetups in Hyde Park and around Europe, and I noticed that there were so many Muslims coming to the meetups. And it really surprised me because I was saying I didn't believe in God and I was atheistic. But for some reason what I was talking about resonated with a lot of Muslim people. And I have a lot of people that I associated with them that have read and understood they, they have found peace in Islam. And it also, it seems like a
sanctuary from all the degeneracy in the West, I moved out to New York City because I kept seeing what was going on the pride parades and how drag queens are in schools now and what children are being exposed to. And it's really, I think it's disgusting. And they call you a homophobe. They call you transphobic if you talk about that, but I think that putting a pride parade in the middle of a classroom with a bunch of five year old children that is actively promoting sexual deviance to children. And I think that that's the decline of the West that the new religion of the West is woke the new religion of the West is the blue haired feminist is climate change activism. That is their
God. And that's what made me start believing in God again, I grew up as a Catholic, but I left because I started doubting that the different scriptures were just different versions of the same thing. But seeing how the general society in the West was becoming because of the lack of God made me realize that there must be something positive out there, there must be some god out there. But I haven't read the Koran, I want to I'm reading the Bible right now. I want to finish the Bible. I want to read the Koran. Yeah. You mentioned you started to believe in God again.
What is your conception of God like? So for example, obviously, different religions have different ideas of what God is.
In Christianity, there is a specific idea in Judaism is a specific idea in Islam is specific idea. One, when you say God, what do you mean exactly?
It's hard to really describe, because I pray to the Christian God, I guess I do the sign of the cross. And sometimes I'll say, the Our Father or Hail Mary. But to be perfectly honest with you, it's it seems like, it's hard to really figure out what exactly it is, in my head. It's a positive force that looks out for the entire world. It's everything that's good about the world, I want to believe that it's a person God made us in our image. And, and but I see the way that Buddhists are happy, and I see the way that different religious people find happiness. And it just seems like God is a positive force. And so the belief in that is the best way, is the best way to live. I have a
hard time looking at any specific book and thinking that this is the word of God when they seem like different versions of the same ideas.
Okay, well, let's let's start with that, I think it's a good place to start. Because
in terms of conceptions of God, let's start with the two major world religions by way of demography in the world today, which is Christianity and Islam, right, because
this is what I would put to you, I would submit to you that the main difference between Christianity and Islam is that, whereas Christianity, or Christian people must believe in the Trinity, the Father, the Son of the Holy Spirit, these are three persons of God, that God is comprised of three persons, that the Father is God, the Son is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. And that, but there are not three gods but one God. This is the formulation of what the Trinity really is. So Jesus Christ, for the Christian is God. The Father is God, the Holy Spirit is God. But there is only one God. Now the Islamic response to that is that that's an unintelligible proposition. That acts
you can't say that the Jesus is God that the Father is God, the Holy Spirit is God. But there's not three gods but one God.
Really, what you're counting is three different gods here. And we will say there's even bigger problems when you start thinking about the fact that Jesus is a man as a human being. And this is this, this idea that a man can be God is something which the Muslim person would completely reject. So the first thing is, Muslim people would describe God as the all powerful, the All Knowing. The one that does not need sleep does not need rest. Unlike obviously, you know, resting on the seventh day in Genesis and stuff like that, we will say, in fact, God doesn't need to rest. God doesn't need to sleep. God doesn't get tired. God is all knowing God is all powerful. God is all merciful.
God is loving, as you've mentioned.
And this is our conception of God of the two, which do you think is more? Is a more, you know, plausible conception of God? Would you say that the Islamic conception or just say the Christian conception? I see what you're saying. And that's some of the criticism I've had when I've been reading the Bible, the fact that God needed a day to rest, if he's all knowing and all powerful? Why would he need to rest? Why is he not perfect? And I see what you're saying. And I've had similar debates before with Muslim Muslim scholars, the name is as lost on me right now. But yeah, I do think you provide a valid argument.
Yeah, I mean, so it's really and truly this is the main difference between Christianity and Islam. So the point about when you're saying when you're reading different scriptures, and you saw kind of different, you know, different wordings of the same thing, or I can't exactly remember what words you use. But this is one of the differences. I guess, I'm not saying that in the Bible, in the Old Testament, and the New Testament, the idea of the Trinity is there, because I would actually say that the truth, the Trinity is not even mentioned in the Bible, the idea that you have co equal and CO eternal, three co equal co eternal persons of God. This is not something that for examples
anywhere in the Old Testament, you will not find that in the Old Testament anywhere. And it's not something in the New Testament, even the Father, the Son of the Holy Spirit. You know, before there used to be verses that were seen, as you know, interpolations that were then taken out because people realize that we're fabrications. For example, in the first epistle of John, chapter five, verse seven, where it says that there are three that bear the record on heaven, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And then later on, people realize that this was a 15th century fraud fabrication. So there's that it's not part of the Bible, which is why now if you go to the New
International Version of the Bible, the Revised Standard Version, or even I think the King James Version, some of them at least, you won't find this verse in there. And so the truth is, the Trinity is not mentioned in the Bible, where you'll find that the Trinity is mentioned is where it gets altruism, correct. Putnam is an mostly Roman Catholics from the Holy Trinity. Yeah, I mean, what happened was that you're right, it's the Catholic Church, if you like, you know, is what happened was in the first kind of two 300 years of Christianity, there was an evolution of thought.
And so there was a development in the in the doctrine, you have different councils, you can you can easily look them up, which are like, for example, the Council of Nicaea, the Council of Constantinople,
calcium, through 25 381, and 451, respectively, all of these other years when they're doing these big councils. And in those times, the formulation of what God was started to change, like, for example, in in 325, when they did the famous Council of Nicaea, the Catholic Church, they didn't have the Holy Spirit as a co equal and CO Eternal God, they did mention him as Lord, but he wasn't a co equal co eternal God. By 381, he became a co equal co eternal God. So it was kind of like a bioterrorism. And then after becoming Trinitarianism, after the Holy Spirit was added to the mix, so what we're saying is that if you're if you can't find it in the the Old Testament, you can't find
that in the Bible, you can trace a clear historical development. And also, you know, this is something which is not what the prophets have said in the like, for example, Abraham and Moses, and these great prophets in the in the Old Testament have not said anything about a trinity, you've come to realize that this idea was not something which was intended by God. And quite frankly, it's not something which is very rational either, like, once again, this idea that God is a man, it's just beggars belief that people can, because when we say God, I mean, what is God, God is all powerful. A man is not all powerful, that man is limited, God is limited. So you can't have both in the same in
here in the same entity. Do you see where I'm coming from? I agree. I've had this debate with Christians and Muslims before. And I think that that's a very valid argument for Islam. I'm wondering, though, and I'm not trying to be offensive in any sense. But I've had debates with a lot of
blue haired feminists and these types of people. And when I talk about my interest in Islam, they bring up the fact that the Prophet Muhammad, he was married to a girl that was underage. What is the response to that? Because I don't know how to respond to that end debate.
Yeah, man. So I mean, we've done a part of something called the Sapiens Institute, which is the institute which I co founded.
We've done a three part series on this question, because it's one of the most common questions in the West like why is it that the Prophet Muhammad, you know, married i
At the age of nine, or there was a, you know, intimacy at the age of nine, and so on. And so the first thing I will say is that if you want a more detailed answer of what you know, I'm about to mention now you can obviously go and see these, I've done three part series. The second thing I would say is that, look, I mean, first and foremost, you could technically believe in Islam, and not believe that the prophets of salaam or the Prophet Muhammad married Aisha at the age of nine. In other words, it's not something it's not an article of faith, one must believe that the Prophet Muhammad married, you know, Aisha at the age of nine, or there was some kind of confirmation that
I'm not saying this is not. This is a red herring that many people try and bring about in order to create some kind of a distraction to the key tenants of Islam. Well, let's take the historical account, because quite frankly, there are some revisionist accounts, which some people have brought forward today and said, No, she wasn't nine, she was 18, when she was 21, or whatever. I don't looking at it myself. I don't agree with those accounts. I think that those accounts are not correct. I think it's correct that he married her at the age of nine. That's what happened. And that's something that she mentioned herself, in fact, and it's narrated in Sahadi.
authentically, so the question is why and how? The real answer is, bro, you're kind of alluding to it before, which is that we have social constructs, social constructs, not the kind that the feminists, and the ones on the far left are talking about, which is that they say * is a social construct, or that like, for example, Judith Butler said, * itself biological *, though the penis is a social construct we're not talking about, we do have some social constructs. And ironically, I think the social constructs are those things which cannot be empirically justified. And I think one of those things is the idea of childhood. I'll be totally honest with you and tell
you, how do we determine what is a child? I mean, historically, we've always understood the idea of childhood, as corresponding with either biological ability, or psychological capability, or a combination of both the ability of somebody to work or to or to be domestic, or have effective domestic reality,
and all these kinds of things.
When I looked at the issue, from a historical perspective, I started to realize why the West in particular, has started to redefine what it means to be a child. And I think I've got the answer. Because, you know, in the United States, in the 1800s, you'll find that, quite frankly, people were getting married in the United Kingdom in my kingdom, at the age of 1012. And in America, all the way down in Delaware, it was actually nine years old, or seven years old, people will get it was legal to get married at this age. So when did it shift? It actually shifted here in the United Kingdom, when 1914 obviously, as you know, 1914 to 1918, there was World War One. And after World War One,
there was an infrastructural mess in parts of Europe, and the ideas of education started to change. So legislatively, there was a law that was put forward in 1924, or 1925. I can't remember exactly the year, but it was it was a law that changed the marriage age, from 12 years old, to about 16 years old. So in England, where we're where I'm speaking from the age to get married was 12. And then it changed to 16. Now, you might ask, what is the reason? actually funny enough, ironically, once again, part of it was to do with some protesting from the first wave feminists.
I looked at some hand side records, which are basically the records of Parliament and so on. So I was wanting to see what exactly the reason was. Another part of the reason my opinion, was the fact that education started to be seen as a when somebody would finish education, which sought to be seen as the appropriate time of when adulthood begins. So the United Kingdom, for example, I think in America is very similar. The age until compulsory education is 16 years old. So it's almost as if they're telling us Look, you're not a real man, you're not a real woman, you're not a you're not an adult yet, until you finish the educational program that we have in place for you. You have to be 16
And then you're up. You're an adult, then. Now this is completely alien. In the historical landscape. I mean, this has never been how any civilization almost at any point in time, almost at any point in time is 6005 to 6000 years of human civilization existence has ever understood what it means to be an adult. Now, I'm not saying therefore we should change it and go back to our old days, because it's very difficult now to get a young person of today to do the action.
seems that they were doing yesterday. But why I'm saying is that it makes no sense to take these social constructs, which are not based on biological fact, they are merely social constructs, literally things which have been put in place or have been understood to be okay, aesthetically pleasing relativistic understandings by liberal people after the, after the First World War in second world war to be more particular, it became even more pronounced because there was even bigger mess, then infrastructurally. And then they needed education even more to to fix up economies. And so this idea of childhood cooperating or corresponding or being commensurate with educational age,
or the end of childhood been when the edge of education ends, became even more prominent. So what I'm saying is that, yes, it did happen, according to the most authentic historical account. And no, we don't think there's any problem with that at all, we think that it's just because we have a different idea of what it means to be a child, which can be tracked historically. But now, if the situation has changed, we'd say that the general principle in Islam is, you know, you can do what you kind of want, so long as I'm not gonna say you can do what you want, so long as you have it, you can do you can marry whomever you want to marry, so long as it doesn't cause them harm physical and
psychological. So for example, if I marry 100 year old woman, or a sneaker a few marry, with your tank, top 100 year old woman, and you know, and you get involved with her intimately, she might die. I mean, she or she might have some kind of health problem. So we will say that, well, if you if you were to be intimate with a 14 year old, or you know, 13 year old, who's got a huge hips, and huge *, and huge body, I mean, quite frankly, would say, it's not, it's not going to have the same effect medically, I mean, no one can make the argument. But on in these countries where we live in now, one is legal, and one is both. One is illegal. So in other words, you can't marry 100 year old
woman, but you can marry that that girl that's, you know, you can't be so you're a * if you if you go for the girl that's got the hips. And once again, * is very relative. Because if you go to Russia,
the age of consent is 14, while England is 16. And part of America is 18. In other parts of America is 18. And other parts of the world is 21. So one man's * is another man's good citizen, liberal actor. So the point of who sets the age is another issue, because it's very arbitrary at this point. But we're not saying therefore we should go back to a time where the age is not set. We're not saying any of that stuff. We're just saying that to use this as an argument against the veracity of the truthfulness of the religion of Islam. Is is unsatisfactory? I would say. What do you think about that?
I feel free to push back.
I think that's a good explanation.
I think nine is very young. It's nine is very young.
That's Yes. I mean,
yeah, it's very young to us.
How old was Mohammed at the time? I, we don't need to stay on the subject. But there's other we could talk. I was just wondering it because in debates, I want to figure out how to continue because that's, that always comes up, especially from Christian. I agree. When the debate comes up, I wanted to see how to how to navigate that. Okay, well, what is young? What does it mean to be young?
To be innocent, to be childlike? And even not even going through puberty also, physically not matured yet? Okay. Beautiful. Excellent. So you've mentioned some key terms, right? Innocence and puberty, because these are things which are measurable now, now we can start to talk about it.
Frankly, we believe that I share the time she had gone through puberty.
So we actually have evidence of Ayesha saying that she had gone through puberty at that time.
That's one aspect, the reason why he didn't marry before because she hadn't gone through puberty yet. Now, if you look at the numbers of people that go through puberty, or whatever age, you will find the percentage of people even today that go through puberty at the age of nine. So yes, nine is very young. This is what some of the revisionists of today say. They say she was 18. And they make their own theories. And once again, we're not saying that they're therefore they're not Muslim, or they're liberals or whatever. I'm just saying that. At the end of the day, it's not a point which if you don't believe in it, you become a disbeliever.
Because quite frankly, the Prophet himself didn't say it, it was what you call them a cough Hadith, or it's a hadith that goes back to a companion, not a hadith that goes back to the Prophet. However, what I will say having said that, is that since she she had gone through puberty, yeah, nine is very young. But in, in ancient times, people were doing very many things that we consider to be, you know, something which an adult would do at very young ages. You look at ancient Sparta and ancient Athens. People were soldiers, boys were soldiers at the age of
Five and six. Now we would consider that to be abhorrent. I'm not even saying that should be the case. I'm saying that people did things that ages in different times in human history that they wouldn't do now, in the age of in the age of distraction, playing Playstation, and playing a FIFA, or smoking marijuana. People don't realize that this is we're living in the age of distraction. This is a, we're living in the lazy age, we have the luxuries to do the things that we're doing now, which is to sit down and play FIFA, and these whatever the kids do nowadays, and I've played it for myself, I'm not as probably good as the game is out there. But I'm just saying that we have we have
we're living in the age of distraction. If if there was no such distraction, and there was war, there was continuous war. It's not what the historians refer to as Pax Americana, work was America as the is a superpower of today.
You know, that the wars are not happening as much as they used to, because there is no more vying for,
for dominance. And therefore, we're not lazy, because we're not going to war, we're doing what men have done historically, for the last 6000 years, the conversation would be completely different, you see. So what I'm saying to you is that,
what I'm saying to you is that it's clearly there's a historical significance here. But there are principles at play also. So we're not saying that, therefore, we should bring, you know, we should get married to nine year olds and 10 and 11. We're just saying that there are principles, which are that so long as the society has structures which support certain practices, and
there are no consequences which are negative.
And we wouldn't consider it to be immoral, because thanking somebody is only immoral, which if you can improve it, you have to prove that something is immoral. So if I said, well, a nine year old who had gone through puberty and who our family and the society accepted was, it was normal for her to do such a thing. Why is it immoral for her to engage in sexual activity? I don't see in a historical age for nine year old 1400 years ago,
that has the full support of our family and the community and they have gone through puberty for to engage in sexual activity. And for someone to say yes, it's immoral for that, that person to engage in sexual activity, they would have to now produce some kind of evidences for that. You see the point? I see the point.
But don't you see the
the hypocrisy in my belief system, part of the reason that I'm trying to find religion and I'm trying to find the word of God it is because of I think the next objective of the woke movement is to normalize *, they're calling it they're calling pedophiles minor attracted people, they are putting the pride flags in school, there's videos on Lives of tick tock shadow that Twitter page of like children tipping drag queens at five, six years old, and you walk people will come in here and defend that and say that twerking isn't a sexual act. Or they'll say that this is just performance. I tell you what, this is one of our core philosophies. Sorry to cut you off. Have you
watched that? That famous documentary? What is a woman? Yeah, of course. Okay. Now that guy when he went out, I forget his name now.
What's his name? Walsh.
When he went out, and he started asking everyone, what is a woman? Yeah. And those work guys on the left was saying a woman is and they don't want to ask or answer the question. They had no answer. And they went to different places and the people in Africa and in Asia, and no one knows how to answer it. Yeah. If I were to ask you, what is a woman sneaker?
Yeah, I know. I know. You're gonna give me the answer I need but if I was asked, What is a woman What would you say?
A human with a *. Okay, human with a *. Fine. Well, xx, xx, xx chromosomes are one of these acceptable answers, right? Well, a woman born with a *. Yeah, I'll find
you know, what if What will differentiate it from a girl for example?
For a young girl like a baby girl, maturity,
physical, physical maturity,
physical maturity. Now, you've just answered your question about the the age of Ayesha, because I've just asked you what is a woman? And so all of the things that you've just said, about what a woman is, is applicable to the prophets.
A marriage to Irish because we're saying is she a woman or she not woman? Your definition is the definition of what she was, according to what she said. She believes she was mature. She was narrating Hadith. And she was a historical scholar at a very young age comparatively, and she was physically mature. And there was no evidence of her being harmed in the processes on that's one thing. Now, if I were to say, look, what is a child sneaker, what is a child?
A human birth without physical maturity and so innocent learning, and
that's that me
is the responsibility of their parents.
Fantastic. So what's problematic here is, let's say for example,
if we say that a child is whatever I decided is to be, wherever the policymakers decide if a 1614 12.
If we decide that a child is someone under the age of 18, for example,
even though they are physically mature, is that
is that woke isn't? What is that? What how would you define such a thing? Is that socially? How would you is that biological determiner? Or is that something else? I guess that's a social construct is a social construct. So what I'm saying is that, you know, what we're talking about. The laws of * in this in this country and everywhere else, are based on arbitrary lines set by policymakers. What we're saying is they're not based on hard scientific evidence, the lack of which we would use me a new to define what a woman is.
So I think I think that's, that's, that's a good argument. A person I went through puberty when I was like, 1415. I don't know about you, but nine.
I know. Yeah. I'm quite big lads. But I was a late bloomer in that sense of myself, you know. So what I'm saying is that, yes, I appreciate what you're saying. But for us to win the argument about what this these left wing people are doing in terms of their * thing, we have to have a strong understanding of what a child is, like, we have to get we have to go with okay, what is a child, we have to be able to answer that question ourselves. And it has to be based on some measurable thing because it is based on some social construct. So for example, if someone says, Well, a 14 year old is putting on makeup and exposed to whatever, and therefore, the people on the
left are exposing 14 year old children to such and such, I would I'll be honest with you such a thing. I wouldn't agree with the argument because I will say, why are we describing this person as a child just because there's a certain age a legalistic age? It's not? It's not really a strong argument. So we have to have this we have to have kind of parameters. When do we decide this person is a child? When do we decide this person is an adult? And these things? It's like I said, it's the religion of Islam. It's not a barrier to entry, this issue, because as I started off with, the religion of Islam was all about believing in one god worthy of worship. You see, so we worship God
of Abraham, we worship the God of Moses, which is the god of Jesus, we believe that Jesus was a man, but he was the Messiah, that He was not God or the son of God.
We don't believe that he was the son of God. Now when we say, Well, the Bible it says that God was created, and you're the children of the children of God. If you look, for example, in the book of Matthew that says that blessed be the peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God. So in other words, we are saying that people got confused as to how this expression was used. The sons of God, were the peacemakers were the good people. Were the, you know, the people that God created and who loves and so on. It doesn't mean that God has any begotten children, because God is above having children and families and needing acquaintances and all of these things. So we're saying that these
expressions have been lost in translation in the Judeo Christian tradition. So if one believes in that, number one, would you say you believe in that God is that if you pray to God tonight, if something happens to you right now, if you know if rumble I don't know, what's the guy's name, if he decides to switch off as well, you know, because it can happen. We're saying rumble we're Ramblers or YouTubers, but the rumble guy cuz he to decide to switch off, you know, you don't know, you know, nothing is short. And then you feel like life is getting more and more difficult. So like, what's happening now? You'll want to pray to God, what god are you going to be thinking about whilst you're
praying? Are you going to be thinking about a man on a cross? Are you going to be thinking about the creator of the universe, the one who moves in and maintains and sustains you the one who's allowing you to breathe and to exist and to be sustained? Which one is which would you be thinking about?
It's hard to say specifically, because part of the reason I had trouble and why I left the churches because I didn't like the idea that God was the sky and I'm sure that there's there's different imagery of God, but they sometimes it's portrayed as like the sky in the clouds with a beard. And it's white guy, he's looking down. It's like, I don't want to it just I had a hard time thinking that that was the creator of the universe. But recently, like, I wouldn't even pray for that reason. I wouldn't pray. So his name is Chris Pawlowski. I wouldn't say that. Please don't delete my like I got I don't resign. I don't. I don't try to ask God for anything. I just, I show gratitude. I asked
that. What not even asked but I thank you for allowing me to do the right thing. And I try to speak to him without asking.
Because I don't want to I try to show gratitude more, because it makes me upset
Surely I think that asking too much, it's just as needy. And I think about how many people are praying asking for like to get a bunch of money to make counted that isn't, I feel better when I just show gratitude, I get what you're saying, Oh, here's, here's what I would say there's two or three things. The first thing about imagery, like, I totally agree with you, like he knows it of these images that we've seen in popular culture, this old man with a gray beard, and we don't believe in anything like that is God that whatever you have in your mind as an image, it cannot be God. That's the Islamic idea. In fact, there's a verse in the Quran led to the removal of Sahaja
Yoga, the collapse czar, which means that no one can encompass him in vision, and he encompasses everyone else envision, in other words, whatever imagination that you have in your mind, about God, it's a false imagination. It's it cannot be what God is. It's something which God you cannot imagine God, He is the Creator of the universe, He is the Creator of everything that exists. If we see these kinds of, you know, sometimes these animations of the soloists and how the Earth is so small, comparative to the sun, and then the sun is so small compared to to the Milky Way. So imagine God created all of this, I mean, it's just inconceivable, unfathomable to the human mind. So I agree
with that part. As it relates to asking God, the Islamic conception is actually a little bit different. You're on the money on one point,
we would say that human beings asking other human beings for help. It is,
sometimes if not always, sometimes, if not always a sign of weakness.
And there is a beautiful verse in the Quran, which summarizes the whole thing, the alpha of poly Wellmark loop, that the one who's asking other things, creative things for help is weak, has become weakened. And the thing itself that's being asked is weak. So if you ask, for example, in a relationship, you might have been in a relationship, you know, it's a very needy and weak thing to do, to ask somebody in the relationship, for example, your wife, or your girlfriend or whatever, Oh, please don't leave me. Don't go, don't do this, don't do that. Because now you're putting your dignity, your self worth, into the hands of another human being, who themselves are not worthy of
this thing. That person, whoever they may be, they're not worthy of that thing. Because, quite frankly, they're they've got their own limitations, their own weaknesses, their own problems. So you might be doing that. And even with your, your parents, we love our parents. And we our religion says you must respect your parents and give them high respect. Probably most emphasis after anything that you have to obey is your parents in Islam.
However, you know, we don't ask them a knee, beg to them and these kinds of things. So the religion of Islam says that.
And this is beautiful phrase, La hawla wala Quwata illa Billah, which is that there is no changing of the circumstance or any power, except with God. So there's no way I can go Muhammad hijab, and there's no way you can go sneak in this universe, which God is not in control of anything that you're doing now, me raising my hand and putting it down me speaking to you, you hearing it, all of that we believe is with the permission of God. If God did not want us to be having this conversation, we will not be having this conversation. He is in complete control of securities giving us free will, to practice what we need to practice. However, he is in control of everything
he's allowing it, we are guests in his house feel like that's that's the situation. And God does not diminish or deprecate or reduce from us asking him, and the Islamic idea is actually a little bit different, which is, the Islamic idea is that if anything, or anyone asked God, in fact, God, according to us, God is pleased with those who asked him more and more, the more you ask God for guidance for help. For anything else, this is a sense, this is a kind of strength, actually, because you're admitting your own weakness. And you're surrendering and submitting to the one God who created you. Do you see the point? Yes. Instead of asking from other humans the best the task is to
God. Yeah, because like, for example, in the Catholic tradition, you have this idea of confession, you go into the box, and there's a guy next to you confession, which I think is that which I genuinely think is one of the big flaws with Catholicism, the fact that you could commit murder, commit adultery, and then go there. And then the priest is listening in a box and then says, Say 10, Hail Marys, and you're absolved of your sins. I don't think that that's what God would intend know exactly that and we say that. In fact, the Islamic idea is that if you've committed sins, you shouldn't tell anyone
that you only admit that to God. You can have conversations with God, you can ask God and you can call because we're all limited and weak and vulnerable. But we need to, in order to get strong, we need to attach ourselves with the most strong thing, which is the creator of the universe.
We attach ourselves to weak things, we become weaker. If we depend, if a dependent thing depends upon other dependent things, the only thing that happens is we increase independence. But if a dependent thing attaches itself to an independent thing, then we increase in strength, which goes back to the idea that if you submit your will to the all, powerful creator, there's no situation where in which you'll become weaker by doing that. It's a strengthening of your resolve. To be honest, as there's a second part, so really, there's two things about Islam to become a Muslim. There's two aspects. One of it is to believe that there's only one God worthy of worship.
And the other aspect is to believe that Prophet Muhammad is a true prophet. Yeah, these are the two things if one believes in that there are Muslim, as we said, the conception of God in Islam, we would consider itself to be the clearest and most precise and respectable form of monotheism, that there is available today. For example, compare it with Christianity we just have, you'll see that it's, it's a clear victory for Islam. Compare it with Judaism where God rests on the seventh day, where God wrestles with with Jacob and loses the wrestling match, where God has to repent to Israel, God is repenting himself to the tribe, we will say that this is not a sufficient understanding of,
of what God is. Compare it with, with Sikhism, or Hinduism or pantheism, or any other ism, we will say this once again is the idea of policy is many, many gods or statue that you believe in his God, we think this is all nonsense. How could something which is weakened, in need itself, be your God? So we will say that when you compare the conceptions of God and Islam with everything, all the other religions, that's one aspect. The other thing is the Prophet Muhammad, we believe he came with two things, all the prophets and messengers, they came with two things fundamentally, they came with the message, which is to believe in worship and only one God. And they came with an evidence to show
what kind of Prophet they will have you come across any of the evidences of Islam.
I've seen different videos that show patterns in the universe, that that allude to the fact that it must have been one sole creator, if you look at
I think it's called some sequence. But yeah, that my, the Muslims have sent me videos, do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, for example, this is more to do with proving God's existence. So like, the fine tuning of the universe, they say that, for example, the unit of the universe has this is the argument is usually made, they say that the universe has all these kinds of numbers, which, like John Reese wrote a book called John, just six numbers, the electromagnetic force, the gravitational constant, everything is perfectly fine tuned so that human existence can take can happen or any existence, any life can exist in the universe,
that shows that there is some kind of, you know, intelligence or knowledge that has put into existence, this universe. And I think that's a fine argument for God's existence myself, although I've developed it in later times. But I won't get into that. The point I'm getting into here with this, with the evidence is of the Prophet Muhammad himself, being a true prophet
revolves around a couple of things, first of all, his track record, because number one, we know about the Prophet Muhammad SAW Sam's life, very, in a very detailed way. He was an individual who is being kind of monitored from the very beginning. In his community, he was seen as someone who was trustworthy, a SonicWALL. I mean, he was referred to as a trustworthy people would leave things with him, they would leave like, you know,
shields, swords, all kinds of things that they, they would leave it in his house, because they knew that he would give it back to them that he wouldn't steal it. It was almost like a safety deposit box for people in the community to give their things. And he would resolve conflicts. I mean, this was something that was known about his character. He was never seen as an individual who is she like a cloud chaser. He lived a very, very humble life. I mean, he was a shepherd.
And then after that, became a businessman, he married a woman that was
his senior in age, only one woman, he was only with one woman for a very long time, for 15 years, in fact, and, you know, he lives a very respectable life used to meditate all the time. And the and the story goes as follows that he went to a mountain in Mecca.
He went to a mountain called Hara Hara, which is a mountain called Hara, right?
Or a cave called head up some double north. And he went into that mountain. And as he would just go there, sometimes he would spend hours and hours and hours
and just contemplate he would spend days in fact, his wife would get him food and he would eat the food and just think about God. It's the kind of meditation he used to do this kind of meditation.
Until one day an angel came to him. And the angel told him to read in the Name of your Lord.
Correct Bismillah obika Lizzy Holla Holla call in Santa Clara or a book Ekrem Alethea Allameh Bill column allemaal in Santa May Allah may Allah read in the Name of your Lord, the angel septum, read in the Name of your Lord who created who created the human being from a clot
read
and your your Lord is the Most Generous It is he who create who taught the human being taught the human being by the pen.
So this was the first thing that he's ever
heard. And then he went to his wife he said you know cover me is a million is Emily that's really have a me up and he was very worried about what happened. And then revelation started now honestly revelations started we're talking about the angel Gabriel, the Archangel Gabriel is an eight as an angel that is referred to in the Old Testament, He came to the Prophet Muhammad Salem and he continuously gave him piecemeal parts of revelation until we have what is referred to as the Quran. So the Quran is we will consider it to be revelation to the Prophet Muhammad, from the angel Gabriel. So the first, first of all, this is the message I'm not talking about the evidence just
yet. The message of Islam is to believe in worshiping one God, family values, be good to your fellow man, a man is a man or woman as a woman, all these things I'm sure you know about Islam. But then you have to worship one God, there is a purpose in life. Because the question is Nico, if I were to ask you now, what is the purpose of life? How would you answer this question?
The purpose of life is to create more life and to serve God, and to do the right thing.
I think those are the three things that I try to follow. That's brilliant, especially the second one, we would say, look, I mean, if the purpose of life was just I mean, because if you look at it from an evolutionary kind of biologist, way, they say that species, they have two goals, survivability and reproduction. I mean, that's, that's what animals do. They survive and reproduce, they propagate their own genetic code, whatever.
We would say that's if if that was alone, if that was the purpose of life, then there would be no difference between a human being and not even an animal, but maybe even bacteria, actually, because a bacteria can, in fact, a bacteria would have a better purpose or a higher, noble, more interesting purpose because they can survive more. And they can probably reproduce at a more rapid rate. But we will say that there's them when you consider the human species, the sentience, the idea that the human being is free willed, that the idea that human being can ask the question, why nothing else in creation can ask the question why a dog doesn't crawl around, you know, and say, Why is a What am I
doing here? You know, or a lion doesn't do?
What am I doing here? The metaphysical questions, or that what Karl Popper refer to as the ultimate questions? Doesn't happen like that. So what I'm saying is, we are the only that can do this, the only species that can do this, so we have a special purpose.
And that special purpose is to submit our will to the creator of the universe. Now, we believe that messengers and prophets have been sent a full time, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad, all of them have been sent a full time to
to tell people of this purpose, but as I've said that two things a message and the miracle or some kind of evidence, so the Islamic evidence is our number one the Quran itself. So we will say there is no contradiction in the Quran. That's the first thing.
The Quran itself says there's no contradictions in there.
Number one, number two, the Quran is preserved. Unlike the Bible, most of them are fighting each other on many issues today, but they're not fighting each other. On the issue of the Quran, what constitutes the Quran, you will not find Muslim fighting each other on this issue at all. There is complete complete unity on this matter between Muslim people.
So the Quran is preserved. Number three, that the language of the Quran and the structure of the Quran we will consider it to be
remarkable and it be scoped anything that anyone could have done.
And there's some ways I can you know, I can resources I can push you towards that. Well, I can tell you how that is the case. Moreover, there are things in the Quran which predict the future. Okay, there are there are prophecies of the future. Now, let's say for us
All sneakers? No. Now watch the World Cup. I watched like a fight once in a while but not big sports are equivalents with playing video games. Oh, interesting. Interesting. I would have thought yours was pools and stuff like I used to watch soccer football, but I don't have any time anymore. Fair enough. I mean, are you interested in any particular activities where there's winners or losers? Fighting?
Alright, fantastic. So you watch like what UFC what do you what do you watch UFC and boxing. Alright, so brilliant. So who are some of your favorite fighters in the UFC? For some?
I like some of the people that you're watching this forget favorite fight because maybe you don't endorse them.
I like Islam. And I like could be as funny because I think the best fighters tend to be
Islamic recently. They have a certain they're able to fully focus I think that's why it could be beat Conor McGregor is because he had no other Connors like doing cocaine. He's drinking and he's on social media all the time can be vicious, pray, fight, pray, fight. And then you see the results that it's insane when you just submit to God, the amount of power that you have, and even Islam or winning that recent fight. I forgot. He had a third round submission. And saline my friend from the milk boys he predicted that fight. It's really
It's pretty powerful to see like how that belief can make you that much stronger.
Absolutely. So let's say Islam, MicroShift versus
Volk
is going to come out always in two weeks time. I don't know exactly the date. There's something in February, right. Yeah, very much anticipated fight. I mean, to be fair, to be fair, Alexander, Alexander volkanovski. I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing his name, right. But he's a very respectable candidate. And it's, I think there'll be a harder fight that people think is going to be for Islam. Nahusha. However, let's just for the sake of argument, if I said, you know, I think that Islam MACIF is going to win, and it's going to be a first round knockout for this argument.
And if I, and I claim that this information that I'm giving to you is not from myself, but is from God, it's not for myself, it's not just an estimate that I am, I'm guessing, but I'm just saying,
it's not for myself, it's from God. Now, if Islam is a shove, loses by knockout,
you'll see this guy's is a fraud is quote, couldn't be from God, because God is all knowing. And what you've just done here is falsified your claim to prophethood, if you like.
The Quran makes prophecies about winners and losers in in fights, if you like. And it does so for example, in the context of great empires. So in the 30th chapter of the Quran, the Quran predicts the Roman Empire, there were two great empires at the time, the Roman Empire and the Persian Empire.
They had been in fighting with one another. The Quran predicted and the Romans had just lost, by the way, only with a rule the Admiral of the human body holiday himself that the Romans had just been defeated in a nearby closed land. And the after that defeat, they will become victorious.
And that will be Fiebig Icynene in three to nine years. So it's even given you some time or whether that's gonna happen. Chapter 30 of the Quran verses one to four.
The Lael Amro, macabre Omen battle Yama isn't you have to have more meaning to Allah belongs this matter, which means that you there's and that day the Muslims will rejoice. So it's such confidence. It's not just a prediction. It's like this is a very dangerous prediction.
Because if this comes if this is wrong, this disproves the whole religion of Islam.
And what happens if it materializes? Exactly what the Quran says is going to happen happened? So would it have been hard to bet on that? At that time, gambling wasn't actually haram because it became haram to gamble after the rules of Islam were not only one time and one Companion of the Prophet, his name was Abu Bakr, his best friend, actually, Abu Bakr gambled on the matter. He he went and took all his wealth. And he went to somebody said, You know what, because he believed this religion so much. And he and he gambled on the matter. And obviously, as I haven't read the reports of whether he was able to claim his money or not, because of how far, you know, eight years later,
but the fact is, some would say what is the evidence outside of the Islamic sources
that this is, this actually happened. So I was able to find
many, many
sources, but one of them is the chronicles of theophanies. And this is something which has been translated now into the English language. The Chronicles of Fiat theory often is, is a source which told you exactly when the Roman Empire beat that Persian Empire and it's
than in English and it's something which is an honest it's not as nice as I make but it's a non Islamic is an extra Islamic source. And you can find online if one wanted to his spelling Chronicles or theophanies.
This source tells you that at that particular time the Persians had been defeated and after that they did exactly as the Quran says. And this is not something which is Islamics was a primary source materials, not even secondary sources. This was a historian, Roman historian that was writing afterwards. So this is just one of many examples. I mean, there are so many examples of where the Quran and the Sunnah of the Prophet, he told us of something which is going to happen in the future, which then materialize. For example, the Prophet told us zoo alien, that the Earth has been made clear for me for it to Masaryk, Maha Maha riba so I saw as eastern and western parts were in the
Almighty say Abdullah Homolka. Mizzou Le Minh had my people will reach its places, that which has been made clear for me. If you look at the map of Islam or the map of the world, you will find that Saudi Arabia, the East parts and the West parts of the Muslim countries, that's where Islam spread.
But to even add to that Islam, the Prophet told us exactly the countries. He mentioned Egypt, he mentioned Yemen, he mentioned the Levant, Syria, Jordans, you know, Palestine, he mentioned India, and he mentioned presently Pakistan. So the countries which are Muslim majority cut many of those countries, which almost a majority of countries,
they have already been predicted to have by the Prophet Muhammad as countries which will be occupied by Islam. These are just some examples. I mean, there are even examples of what's going to happen today and our times relating to the woke movement, you will be very surprised about what the Prophet told us or what's going to happen. For instance, on the leash of degeneracy which you mentioned, the Prophet Muhammad predicted in the Hadith, which is,
which is authentic, that people will be doing fornication outside of marriage will come a time where people will be fornicating, outside of marriage
will point to a point where new diseases will be invented. It's not that they will just contract diseases. They will new diseases will be invented. There'll be an advent of sexually transmitted diseases.
In addition to the videos talking about crypto, the Prophet Muhammad wa salam told us something about the economics of today, he said that it will be an interest based system, the whole thing will be an interest based system. And he mentioned in lemtrack, Kulu.
Ilam. Yeah, cool, who afar but who may look, Obama, even if someone does not consume the interest based system that we have, it will be, he'll be afflicted by its dust. So the entire system, you might have gone to Dubai and Abu Dhabi, and you've seen how tall some of the buildings are. Even that's been mentioned by the prophet. He said in the future, the barefooted Arab, will be competing with one another, to create tall buildings, the battle tower, Luna Hill bonyen, as mentioned body
and authentic souls, there'll be competing with if you see the Saudi Arabians, they're competing now with the UAE and Qatar, and they're all trying to create tall buildings, the fact that they have even the money to do that now.
I mean, because the thing is, you can say, well, maybe they just have self fulfilling prophecy. But you can't create a self fulfilling prophecy if the economic resources are not available.
I'm saying that there are there's a wealth of evidence. There's, you know, a wealth of evidence to show that the Prophet Muhammad was a true prophet. Having heard that, are you convinced to what extent are you satisfied with these evidences? Or do you have anything to ask about those efforts? Is the interest based system is the Koran is that considered haram? Yes. And that's created by who? Who created the interest based system?
I mean, that's, that's not really a religious question. Now, that's more of a question. We can try and investigate ourselves. So it
didn't tell us who created it. He just said that. It's going to be there in the future. I have another question. This, this is all very good evidence. And I think you clarified a lot of things that I was curious about knowing who do you think did 911
I'll be honest, bro, like,
you know, I'll be totally honest with you. Right.
Though, there was a video, um, because obviously, I watched loose change. I watched the documentary. Those are garbage, though. Those are garbage documentaries. Yes, yes. I've watched all those documentaries and all those kind of things. Because the Taliban recently came out. The Taliban just said that Osama bin Laden had nothing to do with 911 There's no evidence of that.
Yes, of course, of course. But what I was gonna say with that is, there was one thing which made me doubt the
You say the conspiracy narrative or the so called conspiracy narrative, which is that it was an inside job, there was one thing that made me doubt it.
Which is, there was a particular
speaker, which as a child, or as a younger person, I used to listen to him. His name was unreliable, lucky, very well known.
And
everybody sort of similar. He became like, you know, he was attacked by the, the government and killed him. So he engaged in extremism or whatever, yeah.
What I was gonna say was,
he came out on a video on YouTube, okay. And he started speaking about 911. And he started speaking about it in a way which seems to praise it, like as if actually happened, and it was praised and all those kinds of things. So this for me, put a spanner in the works, because I can't feel sure I'll be honest with you tell you that I know what happened on that day. Like, I wouldn't put my money on anything on anybody or any story or anything. Like if you say, put your kid's life on one story, and I've I would say I wouldn't put my anyone's life on that. Because to be honest with there's so many ambiguities and vagaries. So that's my stance, I really don't have a strong opinion on the matter.
I've seen some documentaries here and there. But I'm happy to be educated, I'm happy to be you know, to see documentaries and see evidences and so on. But I can't tell you for sure this is a 100% or this is 100% will happen. I think there's problems that I've seen all the things the evidence is like, you know, the insurance company before and all that. I can't say for sure that means x or that means Wyoming that means that and that's why I don't really make a big deal about this issue, because I like to speak about things which I strongly believe in and that I can evidence without Without doubt. That one I would, it's not really my area for you, if you see what I'm talking about.
Okay.
What do you think about the fact that if I, and this is me speaking really, candidly,
part of the apprehension
to embrace Islam is like the amount of people that are going to say that I'm just trying to copy and mutate?
The thing is, that's a that's a bit of a weird one. Because I mean, at the end of the day, there were great figures and and rotate in the cultural history of America that become Muslim. You mentioned one of them, which is Malcolm X.
Are you are you? Are you somewhat African American? Are you fully my dad is Haitian my dad is? is half black? He's from Haiti. Yeah. So okay, so someone who's has African American roots, and you mentioned Malcolm X? See, as you're speaking, I would probably, if I had to guess I'd probably say you're probably more inspired, you find him more of a figure of inspiration than probably undertake. And is that correct? That's correct. And what also do you think about I'm getting a lot of criticisms from the woke left about the fact that, like, I, I mean, I do engage in premarital *, and I promote, like, a lot of people think that I want to convert to Islam just for the for wives.
And that, like Islam, for most misogyny, stuff like that, what do you think, is the proper response to that?
Look, I mean, it's very difficult to have four wives, or even two wives. Because when we talk about having wives, it's not the same as having mistresses, where these people are part of your life. You've been in relationships before that, you see this emotional baggage, you know, you have to provide for these people you have to put up with, you know, you have to put up with them, and so on. And their parents and the, you know, this extended families you have to put up with imagine to have that. So if you have had one relationship, imagine doubling this, this is a burden actually, on the man, I consider polygamy as a kind of extraction of resources that benefits women. In fact, there
was many studies that were done in Africa. I think the biggest one is done in Tanzania, which showed no harm that was done. In fact, that was the name of the study that there was no harm that was done through the polygynous action, by the way, polygyny, or the idea of a man marrying multiple wives, if you go to many places, and dare I even say in most places, in Sub Saharan Africa, it's really practiced. I went to Nigeria, just eight months ago, my Christian friends in Nigeria had more than one wife, Christian friends. And in Ghana, they have more than one wives to tribesmen has two three wives, and you know this and that it's just a normal part of African man's life. I mean, so it's, I
think it's sometimes it's a bit ironic that, you know, these leftists and Vocus, and whatever, they will never point the finger at the African man and say, Look, this is look at the barbaric practice of the African as much as they will with Islam, because they know that there's a racial element that they don't want to be called racist. Maybe they do. Maybe they don't, maybe we'll take the risk. Maybe they won't. I don't know. I don't care. But the point is, is that certainly this is this is not an action which is specific to Islam or the Muslim people. In fact, Orthodox Judaism allows it, a Sikhism allows it. I mean, you could become a Sikh. Why don't you become a Sikh because the
guru's had more than one wife.
You know, the Old Testament that you read the Christian Old Testament, the Old Testament, Simon have 300 wives. I mean, the Old Testament, Abraham had two to three wives. I mean, if you count her job as a slave golden, he has three parts sexual partners, which were lawfully and divinely sanctioned. So that's polygyny. That's in the Old Testament. In fact, according to Britannica University, a BB recycling Cyclopedia
85 to 95% of the world's population before the modern age.
Committed polygyny. But it's not anti normative that one man has many women. This is only recently that they've made this like that. This is a recent phenomenon. But we can trace it just to the whole thing of childhood, I can trace, we can trace why this happened and how this happened. We go back to the 1960s. And we see the second wave feminist movement. And then when women have become forced, I would say or pressured into the workforce, and away from the houses and so on. looking after the children, at the expense, I would say of the children,
that
economies and governments no longer has an incentive to keep women at home. And that's half of the job done already. Because if women are not going to be at home, they should be at work. Because the government wants them to pay them their taxes, the man can have the money at the top. So of course, they don't want us to have four wives because they want our wives to work for them. Of course, they'll elitist they want the woman that will be working for us and for their families and for themselves. And for us as well. serving us and serving our kids and serving themselves and serving the families serving God. Instead of serving all of that they'd be outside, you know, seven, seven,
the money in a corporate job, which this the man will give her the middle finger and she will get according to statistics, in fact, she will get depressed as a result of this, they will cause her psychological pain and anxiety. And the man will be up there, you know,
the children will be a worse position as well. So I think this is wrong, people are just waking up is this is not a new thing. It's why do people want the expect that sneaker or anybody else has to conform to these ideas? And that if he chooses an idea like Islam, or he's copying that one, or he's doing this, or why can't you just be that makes sense to him? It just makes sense. So it makes sense to so many people. I myself, I don't know how many, maybe 10s of 1000s. And this is not an over exaggeration, but people that either have become Muslim with me, I've seen them. I've told them what I've just told you and they become Muslim, just like you've seen in Hyde Park, or on the Internet,
or they declare it somewhere or through it. So it's not something which is abnormal.
So if they say, Well, he's trying to copy this one, or is it's ridiculous really? Well, I mean, why why would you need to copy. And it's also that's a stupid reason to not follow what you really believe in. It's beside your it's living for the I'm just
figures like you had like in the cultural history of America, you have Muhammad Ali, you had Malcolm X, we just mentioned can people amalgamate off in many ways, these are all, all these figures, without exception are higher rank in terms of social cloud than undertake? Or what was your experience? I saw you I didn't watch the podcast, but what did you think after his conversion? I saw it was authentic, bro, like, you know, I sat with him, I spoke with him. I think he's a he's a man that,
you know, if you believe in one God, and you believe in, like the, what we call the fitrah. It's a natural sense of morality, which is like, you know, you have to protect your woman, and, you know, have children. And, you know, this is called the fitrah that the natural predisposition is pretty easy to become a Muslim. It is pretty easy, especially as you've mentioned in a world where we were seeing all this kind of nonsense happening.
It's kind of for me is sickening, and I think what you started off with is actually correct in terms of characterization, when you said that this is a religion of the West. i This is absolutely correct, because first of all, someone will object and say was not a religion because you know, a Cambridge definition or Cambridge dictionary definition or what Merriam Webster definition of the word religion includes things like rituals and divine, a divine nation and so on. The truth is sociologically, the word religion can mean a system of ideas, which tries to explain the world that we live in. For example, Charles Taylor, great sociologist had the same idea that you said in the
beginning, which is that a religion is not just a religion is not just a divining and rituals is, I guess, ideas that shape the world. And nowadays, they do have rituals. They do have their
protests, climate change protests, and the
To generate things, they do that, I would say that there's a ritualistic aspect of this, of what they, that is a very, it's a very powerful point. And look, think of it this way, your menu now, when you were in school,
we could have, you know, this religious education and so on. So maybe they'll teach you about maybe the ancient Greeks, they say, Look these who believe in a god goddess called Athena, right, or the Zeus, you know, you've heard of Zeus, Hercules, and so on.
So look, that's what these two believe in.
So we're all looking at each other in the classroom say, Why did such a clever people believe in such silly things? That's what we're all thinking.
But that is, I would say it's a it's a more plausible idea than the ideas that they have. Now, I'll explain why, at least when the ancient peoples are believing in Zeus, the man with the bed in the sky, basically, which, which both me and you don't agree with. And we cannot imagine that could be a god. But even then, when they looked at Zeus and said, That's God, that is the god of thunder or God or whatever, the top God or whatever.
Even then,
it is not as bad as saying x is y. And that's what they're doing. They're looking at a woman and saying that woman is not a woman, that woman is wherever she wants to be. So she can decide to be a man, she can decide to be a penguin, she can decide to be whatever I decide to be. And then it becomes ridiculous. So a point of commonality, laughable commonality. I was looking at this case recently, so individual transgender, well, he wasn't a transgender in the beginning, he was a man, and then he raped somebody in England. And this is the BBC just had the thing. I'm not sure if you saw it. So and then, you know, he decided to try to change and then he put him into a female's, you
know, prison and so on. And it's pretty hard, pretty smart idea. Yeah, it's a smart idea. I mean, even a Muslim guy, you know, he was taken away from his kid, you know, because as you know, in the West, this is one thing, I totally agree with the red pill on. In the West, the idea of like a man, having rights to his children, and so on, if a woman just accuses him, she can accuse him of domestic violence, abuser, whatever the me to whatever it may be, and this guy can never see his kid for the rest of his life. It could happen. It's definitely I know, people that has happened to in the United Kingdom. And it does happen in United States. So this guy, Muslim guy, his what his wife
scorn, very bitter woman, immoral, a woman went and tried to stop him from seeing his kids using the legal system. Okay. Now, what he did, is that he went and he said, I'm old, I'm a woman, I transitioned, he trans 8%. Well, he pretended to transition. And as a result, now, he's the mother. So now that it's flipping everything on his head, it's a ridiculous notion. And what I'm saying is that when you refer to the religion as a religion, in the beginning of this podcast, I think it was was fitting because
anthropologists 100 years from now may weigh very well look at our times, just like we're looking at the ancient Greek people, and say that, whereas the ancient Greeks, they believed in Gods, they couldn't improve, they couldn't see our people, they were looking at things they could see. And they were saying, they were not the things that you could see, it's even, it's even more severe. They're believing something without evidence, because you're rejecting the evidence was more severe than believing in something without evidence, is to reject the evidence in favor of that which you believe.
And that's what they're doing. This is what we're seeing. Now, the Western religion is a religion, the woke religion of the West as a religion was not about creating your own. It's about rejecting your own set of evidences and creating your own fiction that can replace the evidences. And so it is a religion. And so why would anyone wants to follow that religion. So if snicko or somebody else, or Andrew Tate, or whoever else decides, you know, what, I'm not interested in these kinds of religions, I want to follow God that created the universe. I don't want to imagine God the things that you are seeing from yourself, I don't want to imagine a God that I want to this and that I
don't want to go into a confession box. So where do you go what what other religions are out there? So I personally believe that we shouldn't care about what people think because, I mean, there's a verse in the Quran that says that what I have found along with Allah is the true believers are the ones who do not fit the blame of the blamers. And there is some strength that one gets from that someone becomes Muslim. Certainly the Muslim community can can and should never say this thing. Like if you become a Muslim, the Muslim community should never say something. Oh, he only did it because this person did it. Because how maybe this person he made him think about what is this religion then
he became a Muslim. Many people become Muslim because their spouses become Muslims, because they're friends because there's no problem. So certainly, this is something which should be off limits for any Muslim to say. And if any other non Muslims say it, then they will be just saying that because
there'll be an
We are upset that I think that we are stealing the algorithm. The the neocolonial is liberal ideas are now a second rate set of ideas, which are probably going to be thrown with great vehemence into the trash heap of history. So they're upset that with all the money they put into Hollywood and Netflix, that people asked Niko, who is a man who lives by himself, or,
you know, wherever you live I myself in Miami, in Miami, right? And he's, he's, you know, just talking and, and people are listening. And it's grown, you've grown to a point where the government had to step in.
I mean, in many ways, that's a, that's a, that should make you feel a great sense of pleasure and a great sense of achievement.
Because if they needed to step in, you're one of the only examples in my mind that I can think of that has required a decision from the top to be made about you, from wherever they are these guys, they came together and said, This guy, he's saying too many things. We need to get rid of him. It's remarkable when that happened. I thought that that would have been, there's so many moments where I'm like, okay, the woke left needs to realize that they're wrong now, but even when that happened, they're like, it's no big deal. They play a lot of clips in the Senate. It was just a little moment it was only 15 seconds of a stream. It doesn't mean that they're actually so they will adamantly
defend woke ism so hard. So it's, it's I don't really take that type of pride and pleasure because just even Project Veritas came out with this video exposing Pfizer and still everyone is so quick to defend the people that don't care about them and the people that want them controlled so my work is not done. There's a lot more to do.
Well, I think it's been a pleasure speaking to you. I mean, it's, I'm aware that I don't know what time it is where you are. It's pretty late here. I've explained to you the brief outline of Islam we've spoken somewhat about your situation. Is there anything else that you want to ask or speak about before we we close the podcast?
Do you think it's worth moving to Dubai?
Bro, I'll be honest with you, Dubai is a great country No, and I wouldn't Well, Dubai is not a country the UAE Dubai is one of the biggest cities in
me personally, if you'd like traditional values, let's say and you want to have a family setting, then there are better options in Dubai. Like I would say Doha is a better option which is the capital of Qatar and it has all this kind of technological advancements that Dubai has maybe not at that level but it's still it's if you want a family environment is if all and this might be a bit of a difficult in terms of
the family unit in terms of the language barrier sorry but Istanbul I think it's a great country Oh Turkey is one of the biggest cities in the world is infrastructurally developed they've got great culture because Dubai is deeply have a bit of culture. Now it's like 90% people they speak English now that country they don't want to speak Arabic.
So if you want it depends on what you like, if your taste is for something like if you want culture if you want history, then somewhere like Istanbul where you can still make a living you can still do your videos you can still eat good you can still you know they got good wrestlers out there if you'd like to wrestle if you'd like to do this kind of thing. You've got stuff
if if what you want is more you know just you know to go gyms and to go out you know obviously I wouldn't endorse a kind of a lifetime but lifestyle but that's that's what people go to Dubai for. But then you've got Las Vegas quite frankly I don't know why Jani you got New York. I think New York is more impressive than Dubai, for example. Like I as a person, I've been to New York and I've been to Dubai, I think that being in Manhattan is more impressive than being in somewhere like Dubai.
So yes, that's that's I will say to you, bro, like in terms of a family. Because I think someone like you now you're probably at the stage in your life where you're thinking, You know what, why not start a family. Because that might be the thing to do, bro, you just start a family, hopefully a Muslim one when you become Muslim when we speak in more detail than private, yeah, Muslim family with a few wives. And that's fine, because I think that's what you probably need. Coming back from the background that you've come you might need two or three wives. You know, a lot of brothers that have you know, had the lifestyle like you have, it's very difficult than for them to be with one
woman. And so long as you tell, like, you know, to be honest with you, if you set expectations with your wives, you know, in the beginning that I'm going to marry another woman or whatever. It's a very plausible thing. You know, many of my I'm not gonna say most of my friends but many of them have two three wives and they're living fine lives and all the women are obedient and submissive, and they bear the children of the man. And,
and, and in the Islamic culture, there's no such thing as
No matter what you know, is shunned upon a woman going out and speaking and fraternizing and messing around with another man. We have this concept called rira, which is the protective jealousy. This is one of the great differences between Islam and red pill. The concept of Riera is that my woman is no one's looking at her no such an handles do nothing with her. You know, so I, you know, that is
the idea that I'm not in control, but I am in charge of this woman. And you know, no one comes close to this woman, no one no one touches no one looks at her. And it can can reach very high proportions, one person or one of the companions of the Prophet
Assad even wife.
He said that if I ever saw my wife of another man,
and we're not endorsing anything illegal, but I'm just mentioning, if I ever saw my wife with another man, he would see the the tip of he would see the blade of mine or the tip of my sword basically.
And then the Prophet Muhammad said that attachable naman, hear it sad, are you?
Are you estranged by the protective jealousy of this man? Because he said that I as a prophet, I'm even more protectively jealous of my eonni I'm more protectively jealous than he is.
So this idea of protecting a woman keeping her safe, not doing enough, this is a big thing in Islam. And I think that this is one of the ways that a man shows affection, natural and beautiful kinds of affection to a woman. But so this will be something that you would that you should expect. Inshallah, I'll speak to you privately. I'll give you some resources and some videos, I'll send you my numbers, look at speaker WhatsApp or something like that. And hopefully, bro, I think that maybe Islam was the option for you.
Because it will change your life? 100% I mean, is it gives psychological strength and resilience, the lack of which nothing else can that sound okay?
It does, it does. And there's there's a lot of
not only am I still searching for the for the right religion, but it does conflict with the stuff I do right now. See, if I'm being completely honest, I see if I'm being I see the benefit, and still being the person who's searching, because then you get people from different religions that come in, and they like to see your journey. So if you commit to one, then you alienate the others, you know, and being in this place, now, you're able to go speak to different people,
and have more open conversation, which doesn't conflict with my beliefs right now. But if I'm being honest, I see the benefit in this place right now. But I do want to find
an actual theology that I can with some core tenants, fantastic, I'll send you some stuff. And, and it's been a pleasure speaking to sneaker, if you need anything from me, I'll give you my number that you can reach out. And for those watching at home, that was a sneaker person who unfortunately has fallen prey to some of the coercive methods of the elitist at the top,
who have removed him from a platform, I will have to say that something really highly questionable.
Something which I can't endorse or respect. And, and it's something which we the Muslim community are watching closely, because I have to say that if this happens to any one of us, then this will have tremendous implications for freedom of speech
in the West, because now these these platforms have become one of the only ways that religious communities minorities, and others can
basically put their opinion forwards, which reduces their levels of frustration that would could could otherwise result in extremism and radicalism, the lack of which we don't want to experiment with. And so I say, I think there must be consistency and there must be
there must be self accountability, on issues relating to this. I thanks, Nico. One more time for joining me in this podcast. It is an hour and a half now. And with that I conclude was salam Wa alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh.
Assalamu Aleikum Thank you