Mohammed Hijab – Proof the Quran is Preserved

Mohammed Hijab

Mohammed Hijab and Sh. Ahmed Kamel

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The speakers discuss the importance of preserving the Quran and the "opportunity for anyone to attend the cause of injury." They highlight the need for students to defend the title of the Quran and write and recite it. The importance of protecting the definition of "opportunical" and the need for students to write and recite the title. They also discuss the use of multiple writing methods and the importance of the Bible's unmatched method of apologizing for things that do not belong to the Bible.

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			For 972, we will assure of the preservation of the Quran as we are now. But it's just interesting
that when you look at it from a secular perspective, that when they look, and they analyze the
material, the Codex ease and the manuscripts, they actually come to the same conclusion and it might
take them a couple of 100 years to get to that conclusion, It is we who have revealed this reminder
Zik and It is we who will take it upon us to preserve it, meaning Allah subhanaw taala and the Royal
UI. So this suffices for us as so called insiders are the extension of us Muslims, will they learn
how
		
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			to be hamdulillah especially for me, these are my teachers humbled, I share my gesture I I've just
hired, you know, and the rest of them all my teachers as well actually had the pleasure of reading
to the majority of them Quran. And I just want to start off by saying that this is a great
opportunity for anyone who lives in the area, or even lives in London
		
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			to attend the causes of injury, or adjust the Institute, because you'll get the best kind of Wallahi
Eonni it's, it's equivalent, or if not much better than what you'll get in the Arab countries, this
is the best, these are the best teachers you're going to find in Europe that are going to be able to
teach you Quranic studies that are going to be able to help you memorize the Quran in the correct
way that all of them have ages, not just in Austin has an awesome camera, but all of the cameras,
they have adjustments in all of the heroes. So this for those who don't understand we're gonna be
talking about what the colors mean, and things like that, but these teachers are Mashallah the most
		
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			qualified teachers in Europe. And it's a great blessing for us to live in the West and have access
to them. You know, for many of you, this will be you know, just around the quarter for you. So make
sure if you haven't already done so that you find out how you can get involved because hydrocarbon
talent will Khurana Allah, the best of you are those who learn the Quran, and then teach the Quran.
So, this is just what I wanted to start off by saying, a lot of these are my teachers, I'm just
here, you know, asking questions, and also inshallah having a conversation with my university
friend, we went to the same university together. You know, what he was, he had a super memory so he
		
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			memorized the Quran. I don't know, is it one year?
		
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			Something like that. Yeah. It on a very humble.
		
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			Yes. Anyway, we can talk about that later on.
		
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			So inshallah, we're gonna start, I'm going to ask you a couple of questions. And then we're going to
have a conversation and then we're going to open it up to questions and answers, inshallah, that's
going to be pretty much the, the system. So I want to start off by asking for those who, in a
general sense, don't know how it works. How does preservation work? And in other words, how has the
Quran bring been preserved?
		
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			Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim, Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen wa salatu wa sallam Allah says, Allah
help you shuffle, mousseline CD No, have you been involved with Amina Mohammed. While early he was
so happy your mind was blown Nana home loan and about Firstly,
		
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			I must admit, it fills me with a childish, special type of Glee, sitting with my brother, friend,
Mohammed, he has a unique ability in your last part of preserving and increasing to present topics
in such a way that appeal both to the masses, and those of the intellectual, academic sort of
background.
		
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			He has benefited me much more than I've benefited him, I can assure you of that. And it's something
that I continuously held on to live forever.
		
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			Regardless, I hope you benefit from him and his insight just as much as I have in the US that I've
known him. For. With regards to this topic. It's very interesting. And I'm especially glad that we
are discussing it because something that's increasingly being brought to the forefront of a Dao and
preservation of the Quran, the so called lectionaries, or the modes of resuscitation that are as
it's known in the technical lexicon. And how to approach it from a
		
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			so a non Arab background Alhamdulillah we have our traditional handler, we have our books, and
that's what shallow Tyler will be attempting to put across to you that this is not something that
has been hiding under the table. Something that's not known within our tradition is something that's
very well known.
		
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			And inshallah Mohammed will be approaching that perhaps from a different perspective from what has
been said from a secular
		
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			Limit perspective and trying to marry between the two sides.
		
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			For First of all, as so called insiders, as Muslims for the left hand, we have our own sort of
		
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			very comfortable, very, very comfortable go to answer. When it comes to stuff like this. We before
the law, we're not waiting for this argument to say yeah, but now Okay, now I agree the brand is
preserved. This is more as a defense, if we ought to be attacked, much more so than proof to me that
the Quran is,
		
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			is preserved Alhamdulillah enough and suffice for us in nationalism, netic were ineligible to have
freedom and the discussion. So panela, I was brought to this sort of mentality, I was reminded of it
when a brother it translated versus in case, It is we who have revealed this reminder, Vic, and it
is We Who will take take it upon us to preserve it, meaning Allah subhanaw taala and the Royal we.
So this suffices for us as so called insiders of their station of as Muslims, we will I will hand
		
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			now, as
		
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			Islam is increasingly put under the spotlight and things that we have, correctly, largely correctly
taken for granted as Muslims are being questioned and questioned and scrutinized in ways that we are
not comfortable and used to, it's important nonetheless, to know how to respond to these. So this is
the second part discussion. So don't lose sight of the first Don't, don't lose sight to the first
because that more than suffices for us. The latter is more to defend the tradition, exactly the same
ascalon not to go controversial. The reason why the scholars of the oma have taken upon upon
themselves to be able to defend Islam from a philosophical theological perspective is to preserve
		
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			it, not because this is part inherent part of our tradition, but something that was necessary to
fend off the enemies of Islam.
		
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			But having said that,
		
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			we must appreciate and we must get across the message to non believers to so called outsiders how
special this book is how special the Quran is.
		
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			And I draw this example up just to highlight it for you. And hopefully you can use that with us as
if it were the case, that right now at this moment, every single Muslim meaning book, or parchment,
we're in the book The Quran was inscribed, was to disappear right now,
		
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			overnight.
		
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			In every single Muslim community, you will have exactly the same book with exactly the same letters
with exactly the same vowel things emerge and be transcribed, and be recited out loud amongst every
single Muslim community worldwide.
		
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			That's special. That's not normal. There is no other text that I personally know of at least that
has that quality. Not definitely not any religious sacred text from it, let alone any
		
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			collection of chapters that exceeds an hour and the copy that we mostly use 600 pages recited out
loud in one sitting. That's not something that I mean, we take it for granted but they don't know
that so we must get the message across of how special this book is. It's not something that is
normal. It's truly special in our phone well according to analytic Allah promises. While Accordia
sternhell por analgesic, helmy mood Decker, we have made this clear and easy to recite, memorize,
revise etc etc. And is there then someone who will try to remember is that some of them try to
recite, memorize so on and so forth.
		
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			Now from a more academic perspective, once again from our tradition, a critical part that we must
discuss when discussing preservation is is not even work there's a very famous statement attributed
to ability to work on a
		
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			level that is not dementia measure or to even say the full statement in net is net a minute Dean
whenever that is not lapolla measure measure this net or the chain transmission of narration is from
our religion. And if not for this is not then whoever wants will say whatever he wants. So it's Ned
is our fullback when it comes to the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam, the Sahaba the turban, so
and so scholar, this nuclear whatever they said This proved to me Well, this is strange
transmission. Alhamdulillah we're blessed as Hamada dimensioned to have in this institute. McLean,
who have not just ascended and Hopson awesome but in all the 10 motovicity were mentioned
		
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			To a tutor as well means so we before the lucky Tyler can trace back every single thing we utter in
the Quran, to the blessing lips of the Prophet sallallahu, alayhi wasallam
		
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			and this soul with a degree of terroir. Now, what does that mean? In a technical sense, there were
two has many. So, there are differences, more discrepancies in terms of how each scholar would
define it within the Hadoop tradition. But the general idea is as follows. There are two or anything
that is matter motivated, has the quality of the workload is that which has been transmitted from a
German from a large group of people to a large group of people in every level of transmission, such
that it is practically impossible to belie what has been transmitted. So I'll repeat that one more
time, what has been transmitted from one large group of people to another large group of people in
		
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			every level of transmission,
		
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			that such that it is practically impossible to rely on what has been transmitted. The Quran has that
to a level that is unprecedented and prefer to modular McLean. I mean, these these ascending that we
speak of are not something that as hijab wounds and shallow tile highlight, it's not something that
is only for the elites, academically, it is available in books, you combine McDonald's in East
London alone, Mangia. democra in pubblicato, Pura
		
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			have for the light, Bashar, all these are books where we're in those as needed every single level, I
mentioned, from imagery to the Prophet sallallahu Sallam and from interested himself. To
		
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			us to our level of research, there are a few other things I wanted to mention. But just for the sake
of time, I think that's the main idea that you want to draw home. Number one, the Quran is not
unlike any other book. The art from the Quran is unlike any other book, it is not like any other
book, it is very, very unique.
		
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			And we get a sense of that we're not really sure what to pin it on. But anyone who has this inside
experience to appreciate the Quran, something else it is not, it's not from here. It is as one
scholar describes it the breath of God on earth, it is where the infinite means the finite. That's
number one. Number two, from an academic perspective, before the late Allah we have a listener, and
not just something that is discussed in academic circles, it is available, anyone who understands
the science understands how to go through this, pick up a book of a senate go through the level of
necessity to everyone after him and how we definitely have the word to the end from injury to those
		
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			before him and how we definitely have to work through them.
		
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			Now from a secular perspective, Mohammed, how are what are the discussions that are taking place
		
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			in the academic non Muslim world with regards to the Quranic preservation.
		
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			So, from a secular perspective, like in the beginning of the 20th century, so we're talking about
the 1900s, the beginning of the 1900s, orientalist, started to get their hands on the manuscripts of
the Quran. So in 1911, there was a guy called Paul Casanova. He said that the Quran is not it was
not compiled and codified or canonize the whatever he wants to say, at the time of automating law
firm, which is the traditional view, let's say, because the traditional view is that, as many of you
already know, but just to highlight this, this is our view as Muslims. The view is that when the
Prophet Muhammad wa sallam read the Quran, then you had people memorize it. And then after that, you
		
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			know, at the time of Bach hafsa has it in her house. And then again, there was a legend at the time
of author Madame la femme, which is like a council, where all of the Sahaba who are acquainted fully
with the Quran, those who are the elites and understanding what the Quranic text meant, were able to
confirm that this is the written text of the Quran. So this was at a time last man laughs and so
this is the traditional view. So Paul Casanova, and other orientalist in the beginning of the 20th
century said no, this is not correct, because actually, it's more likely to have done at the time of
hijab and use of a coffee This is so he's saying that it was canonized maybe in the eighth century,
		
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			seven love in the blood during the
		
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			automatic the neuron. Yeah, so yeah, so this is Caliphate after Mulliken Marwan and then the
governor was Alhaji music photography is their Araki governor of that particular caliphate. So he
was saying it happened that time and if century, which is like let's see, I think
		
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			Marwan died 705 or something like this? Yeah. So the eighth century, so when they discovered the
Sunnah manuscripts, okay, because they discovered these manuscripts in 1972. And when they went to
Yemen, they found basically in a Muslim in a mustard in a mosque, they found in a top roof or
something, a manuscript. Yeah. Which hadn't been touched. So they went and they checked out and
		
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			Ever since that time, they did radiocarbon dating on it. So they wanted to see what time because
radiocarbon dating is a archaeological method of inquiry, where you find out, okay, when did this
parchment or this manuscript actually exist? So when they did that to a degree of like 95%, they
found out it actually did coincide with the time of Hoffman so went to the traditional view. So a
lot of scholars revised this orientalist view in that was promulgated in the first part of the 20th
century, orientalist themselves would revise it now non Muslim outsider orientalist, because of the
new evidence, but there were other copies anyways at the top couple of manuscripts and other but
		
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			because of this as well, they revise this and they went back to kind of the traditional view that in
fact, it was codified and canonized at the time of Othman laughs. And the truth is, like, Ahmed
said, we don't actually require
		
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			sinad manuscript, to be honest with you, because who cares about us on our manuscript before 1972,
we will assure of the preservation of the Quran as we are now. But it's just interesting that when
you look at it from a secular perspective, that when they look and they analyze the material, the
Codex season the manuscripts, they actually come to the same conclusion and might take them a couple
of 100 years to get to that conclusion. I mean, think about that. I mean, if the orientalist, it
took them about from 1900s, until even until now they're talking about this is gakuen. Nicholai
Sinai, who I was reading his piece, I think he's part of the orientalist Oriental
		
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			Studies Department and Oxford University. And he and he was mentioning this kind of development and
things like that. They've come to the view now of the traditional codification, why it took them how
many 100 years to come to that view, because they want it to be critical in the beginning, you know,
using their own different methods, which are, which are different from, let's say, from the insider
methods, but then they come to the insider conclusion after about 100 years. So, in a nutshell,
		
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			you know, up most the presentation are not based on manuscripts per se.
		
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			This is very important. They're not based on manuscripts per se. So we have the idea of tomahto, as
he said, or that you have a multiplicity or a plethora of people
		
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			transmitting downwards to a different generation of people, the same content. And that is done
through, as I've just said, he says three different ways. One of them was through the oral
transmission, and the other way is through the the Russian of the most half, and the other one is
through the Arabic language. So all of these tripartite, like triangulating method where you put all
three of those things, that's our method of, of preservation, which is, which is different from
other methods and so much as like now the orientalist don't want to really regard let's say, the old
the old transmissions as important though, in other traditions, like, for example, the Jewish
		
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			tradition,
		
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			and ancient Greek tradition, the oral tradition is, and obviously African traditions, in terms of
history is heavily prominent. So it even but the take home from this is that even not, even if you
don't want to use that, you're going to come to the same conclusion, but it might take you a longer
time to do so. So we have our own methods of preservation.
		
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			And our methods of preservation, in recent times have become more and more
		
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			from from an academic perspective has come more and more in line with the orientalist method of
understanding of Quranic preservation. But we don't require the orientalist to tell us that we're
right. Because we know that 4400 years and we don't require the Surat manuscripts or any other
manuscripts for them Birmingham manuscripts when you have a manuscript for that matter, to to prove
that for us. So I wanted to ask you now though, because this is this is an important point
		
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			is about the carrot, because a lot of people are get confused now. So it was it was the carrot. I
don't understand what the kurata you mentioned already, that the carrot are really textual variants,
but which are sanctioned by the prophet Muhammad Sallallahu wasallam. So it's not something which is
development, because this is one of the other aspects of the orientalist narrative now that these
textual variants are actually developmental. They weren't there at the time of the Prophet and the
Sahaba. But for example, the difference between Malik and Malik Yama, Dean, so Owner of the Day of
Judgment and King of the day of judgment was something which was something which some of the
		
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			orientalist narratives goes with was developed after a time of Muhammad after the Sahaba was
something which was added into the skeletal lexical skeleton of Lexi the most half. So, how would
you counter the claim that the art or the textual variants which are dialects so whatever you want
to call them, first of all, what is the carrot and how would you counter the claim? That is the
development from the time of the program sussan.
		
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			Look locally.
		
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			A few clarification
		
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			Number one is that the Pierrot
		
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			are undoubtedly once again this is from insider perspective, undoubtedly motivator. There are dozens
of quotes that I can bring from traditional Islamic scholars and never we and others that clearly
state this about the either Subbu because the scholar came before injury so when discuss those
correct or after all the scholar came after an injury, so I was able to discuss all the reason why I
make that distinction is that a shout to me?
		
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			You know what, let me actually backtrack a little bit.
		
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			It is not from Revelation that seven Pura initially were agreed upon by the owner of Quran reciters
so not as researchers but teachers of Islam. It is not from Revelation, it is not necessarily always
the case that seven Pura must have been agreed upon. And then three later added when intercessory
Allah Allah came along, this is happenstance.
		
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			Exactly the same logic applies to the mother hen. So it is not always necessarily the case that it
was going to be form of a hip that we agree upon the oma and then follow in our 50 tradition.
Rather, there were many, many 50 approaches for principles different assume that different scholars,
and much the Hadean applied to reach the
		
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			way of dealing with the sources, the four that we have this day, and the four that have been
survived
		
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			throughout history and the food have been served by 1000s upon 1000s scholars are the foreknown the
Hanafi Maliki Shafi and humbling method, likewise,
		
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			is the case with the spirit the Quran was recited from the level of the beloved sallallahu alayhi wa
sallam, then the Sahaba, they heard directly from his lesson mount Salalah, Alayhi Salaam, and they
recited and taught it to their companions that are being unlike was the target aveeno soon and so
forth. So that's number one, we have, as we referred to earlier, that is not the oral transmission.
		
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			Number two, we have the
		
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			Alfonso, one that happened with that phenomena took place, some Pura out to the worker, and the
gloves that they had, perhaps in their actions became more prominent than others. Exactly like him.
Think of it. I always like to refer to modern examples just to make sense of obscure topics. You
know, all of you, for example, if
		
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			you don't know all these teachers, perhaps, you know, One prominent teacher among his teachers have
two prominent one, let's say and the ones that he would place in his agenda are one or two only.
Does that mean he recited to only one or two? Obviously, no, he had many teachers, and everyone is
invited to have more than one teacher to reaffirm the concepts of recitation, so on and so forth. In
the agenda, however, one person's name will be mentioned, because it's common chopper is, if you
have this Senate, I can see the only one name of the one name of the one name was discovered through
talking about this is called episode. If at every single level every single reciter mentioned every
		
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			single teacher there is it,
		
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			you wouldn't have one single jazz you'd have about a book of ages. Yeah. And that'll be impractical.
So you mentioned the most prominent, the most prominent for who later became known as a suburb and a
shell to be compiled from Obama then his completion in his book, he shall to be did it in poetry
form and became famous for that are the seven well known karate
		
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			later on, if ninjas at this time, other citations to recited anyway, from a naturalistic phenomena I
received from my teacher, and I teach that to my students, so on and so forth, even just that he
argued and improved in his niche, that those three that are attributed to three more prominent
poorer, are
		
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			just as motivated as the other seven and improved through us in either sources. So just to kind of
ask a probing question here, and maybe do a bit of a demonstration as well. You're saying that all
of the ways in which the Quran is recited now, all of the using the multilateral ways, all of those
ways have a chain of transmission of total, which means it's not just one person narrating to one
person, but it's mass people and their entire mass people are every generation that goes back to the
Prophet Muhammad Salah. Absolutely.
		
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			So this is at one yes with Yes. There's a difference between arguing the plural as a motivator,
which is undoubtedly the case. I'll just read one example of that. Yeah, so
		
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			in it half liberation, should have been a boom yet. He says, Call Call him Suki. ulterra to serve
Allah to Surah autosar Allah has shell to be
		
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			Well selesa to let you hear Abuja for Uber Calif moto Moto, moto moto Mina de basura una sala to
Nana Nabi sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. There you can be roofie shaman has a larger, quite severe
terminologies is using number one he says
		
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			as
		
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			a sub electrical slideshow to be the seventh shell to be compiled out of SSR meaning out of
conciseness the seventh atrocious shell to be compiled with elesa and the three later which is a
misery added to the seven and this is Boma Dora. And initially, I mentioned Zoltan
		
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			which are Abuja for Yaqoob and Calif motiva Tierra, they are under mutawatir maluma to Mina de
basura, necessarily known by those of the religion, so something that is commonly known not
something that only elites would be aware of maluma to Mina de basura Mozilla to non obese hola La
Jolla cinema revealed to the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam larrieu caribou fishermen has a
ledger no one argues and contest this except someone who is ignorant. So relatively harsh terms
here. Why? Because the attorneys are available. It's not that he's the secret somewhere the right
verb for any have to anyone who is have the fun of the science to come and analyze. Yes, so I was
		
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			gonna ask, I was gonna say because nowadays, a lot of people are coming forward and saying, look,
you know, all of if you look at all of those variants that you're talking about, yeah. That from
Mohammed Salah Salam sanctioned, you'd have volumous encyclopedic works. But I got myself a copy of
this book, which is actually all of the tongue cut out. And this nice
		
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			book here is where all of the it doesn't look encyclopedic to me, does it? Well, I'm really glad
that you mentioned this because once again, the morava June, those who like to make a big fuss out
of nothing and attack Islam with any sort of strawman argument, say what there are, I mean, I've
heard up to 1000 core ads or something ridiculous like that. Oh, there are 23 questions that you
have throughout this number of protons that you have. So in one book, every single possible wedge is
exactly the same stuff that you have if you open but every time there's a difference, it's
mentioned. So can we do a little demonstration?
		
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			We'll do this at random. Okay.
		
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			Okay, can you can you choose a page what you just did not know? Cuz it might look like it's pre
planned. I said, random and then
		
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			below my notifications, so you get some from the audience.
		
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			Go ahead, brother. You look very eager. Come on coffee.
		
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			Yes. No, the good looking Brother, please. Yeah.
		
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			The good looking brother.
		
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			Yeah, just choose a page inshallah. And then yeah, any page, cuz then she was gonna tell us? Yes.
Thank you.
		
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			I'll give you the money later. Yeah.
		
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			Tell us what's going on here. This is the beginning of a surah.
		
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			So it's the beginning of sukma. EDA, okay. Thank you for choosing an easy section. Everything is
easy for you. You remember the one yeah.
		
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			To be a competition, by the way, you know, the brother the brothers came together, they said, you
know, we're gonna compete, so you memorize it first. So I don't think anyone Good for you. As we
mentioned,
		
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			every time when there's a difference, it is highlighted in the whole image. And this is how I
mentioned in the margins. And this is something that's been done not just pre modern era, but
something that's been done since the time the Sahaba actually, whenever they had or maybe concept of
zero or something like that. They would highlight them appropriately. You can have much more
professional examples of that.
		
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			Because the disbelievers are gonna try and get away from it just by talking
		
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			on your roadie Yeah, you have nothing
		
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			to lose
		
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			on our on our land How do
		
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			you know?
		
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			Well,
		
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			hello, my editor
		
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			Rob beam worried
		
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			in the Hamish
		
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			shorba one mirror what about boon because so how Java recites world webinar as opposed to worry
Bwana this particular example, has zero impact on the meaning because it's not changing the surfy
element of
		
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			The word meaning is not changing who's doing what? Whether someone whether the verb is passive or
active because it's a noun is purely dialectical read one and old one.
		
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			will either hallel tune first or do well a demon
		
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			an l do Kumar GDL Hello Ronnie Tata
		
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			Shannon, Nana rushaga Abu Jaffa bc Cooney noon, callback hoon.
		
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			So Shannon,
		
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			a banana and Chava Abu Jaffer all recite the channel and as Shen
		
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			as opposed to Shana and
		
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			what does this do? It has no impact on the meanings of the our example just it's not like we hiding
something our examples with a meaning is impacted. And those two particular occasions there is no
impact on me Thank you brother once again. But
		
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			when the meaning is impacted, it is out of
		
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			what was the used, like, variants increasing in meaning of Solo is to was the use for that. Does it
come to us when this brother should know?
		
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			So
		
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			yeah, exactly the same
		
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			manner as opposed to thoughtful manner. So increase in abundance in meaning as opposed to contrary
meanings. So malediction Yeah, very much with distinction there is a colloquium so it's not
contradicting each other precisely. For this one of the Quran. Well, I during an akuna Shannon
comin, do Cumani less detail on
		
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			what
		
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			the what takua was Walla Walla, if new one.
		
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			What
		
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			was her shady du, Les Paul, is any other differences, no differences, the only two differences that
have impact on the actual morphological morphological setup of a word or those two, there are
others. And this is actually good that you mentioned this, there are others that are to do with
		
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			that weedy elements where I like to go to 3d elements meaning differences in length of mood,
differences in the straightness, if you like of the lF, whether there is a mela or not, once again,
purely dialectical elements, nothing to do and impacting the mean. It's like literally couldn't
think about it. It's accents or dialects. Like an Irish person, an American person, a British
person, or English person and Australian person reading exactly the same text, they will each read
it in their own accents. That's literally all it is. I see. So all of it goes back to Prophet
Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam with us I need that it's not encyclopedic look is pretty brief. It's the
		
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			same kind of 600 pages here, isn't it? It's exactly the same. It's not. It's just notes that you can
get, you can get this. It's not like we're hiding it. They pretend that we're hiding this, you know,
you can buy this
		
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			company, you can buy this as like, you know, anyway,
		
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			go ahead. I wanted to, especially if this is your field along with Eric, just very quickly highlight
		
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			other traditions, other religious traditions. So now we've explained how inside this view, the
preservation of the Quran has been discussed from a secular academic perspective and House of
hannula the same conclusions have been reached. What about other religious traditions? I know
especially they've been looking into Judaic traditions of Tafseer, an older version of the seal as
well as biblical tradition so as to be fair and say that I'm not a specialist in text criticism,
because that's a academic specialism, which requires multi lingual abilities. Like usually, a
specialist in text criticism in the Bible, if we're talking about the biblical text, would require
		
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			to know Hebrew language, very high level and also Greek as well, maybe in addition to Aramaic, and
be able to kind of decipher, but from what I do know, this is this is the category characteristic
difference and very important that everyone he knows this, because when I was growing up, I heard
the following statement that the Quran is a four letter word for word, you know, the same Yeah. This
is a simplistic rendition of what it is because letter for letter word for word. Yeah, but there are
some letters and words which the Prophet had said in two different ways which both go back to Allah
subhanaw taala. So if someone is not equipped with that reality, when they're confronted with it
		
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			from a non Muslim, they're going to be shocked by it. But the reality is, we have a method of
understanding that and it goes back to Prophet Mohammed, the main difference now, between this and
the biblical texts, I will say I'm going to summarize them. Number one,
		
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			the manuscripts that the Bible use, let's say for example, let's use the Old Testament. Yeah, so
they use the Masoretic text to use the Dead Sea Scrolls which were the which were found in the 70s.
They used the
		
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			Septuagint, which is a Greek translation of,
		
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			of the Hebrew. So it's not even in the original language. Yeah. And all of these sects, by the way,
are not dated anywhere near the time of Moses by consensus. And there's different
		
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			representations in the literature is that how comes? We're talking about the Old Testament for the
time being and the New Testaments, the same thing applies.
		
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			So and now the academics say, for example, that you have different authors for each book, you have
different authors for each book. Now, here's the thing, how do they decide what to put in or what to
take out?
		
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			You have three layers of problem. Problem. One is the canonization method. We don't have a canon of
books, just like the Old Testament, the New Testament Christians have a canon. Okay. And there's
different books in each different canon. For example, partisans have 66 books, Catholics have 72
books and so on the Eastern Orthodox Christians have, I don't know, 7081 books. Yeah. in the, in the
in the Bible. So number one, canon. Yeah. Who decides what books come in? What books come out? In a
nutshell, Athanasius, a fourth century Christian scholar decided what books came in, and what books
came out who gave him the ability to do that? Who gave him the right to do that? Well, it couldn't
		
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			have been God. It couldn't have been Jesus because He was 400 years after Jesus, or 300, and
something years after Jesus. So that's one thing. The second problem is now How did he decide in
terms of manuscript, what they're going to put in and what because now they've got let's say, for
example, the Old Testament, the Septuagint. They've got the Masoretic text and the Dead Sea Scrolls,
so they look for where they agree where they don't agree, and this is very important. There is no
harmonizing method. Very important. This is the key difference.
		
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			There is no harmonizing method. In other words, if they have contradictions in two, for example, the
Masoretic text goes against the Dead Sea Scrolls, and both of them are saying different things. Now
the biblical scholar, the text critic is going to look and say, we can decide to do this and we can
decide to do that Bruce Metzger said, you can flip a coin sometimes on these things. Like there's no
harmonizing method for us. The harmonizing method is what the internet what is
		
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			what is mutawatir, what is goes back to the Prophet, they don't have that, unfortunately. So for
them, they don't have a harmonizing method. So for them, there is no way you can compare a set of
books, which have been canonized by a person who has no authority from God, even by their own
admission, number one, and number two, who, which has different manuscripts, all of which contradict
each other, some of which are even in different languages from each other, like the Septuagint is in
Greek. And sometimes it's preferred, by the way than the original Hebrew translations in Old
Testament script.
		
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			For some reasons that scholars say, there's no way you can, you can compare that with the Quranic
method. So to summarize, the Quranic method of preservation is unmatched. And that is one of the
main arguments for Islam being a true religion, because actually, you can't make these arguments.
There's no academic discussion when it comes to Christianity and Judaism, as to the preservation of
the text. And the fact that Jesus or Moses said, all of those things that we find in the Bible
today, there's no discussion. In fact, there's consensus, even in their own scholarly circles, that
in fact, those things are not entirely what Jesus said, or what Moses said, therefore, from this
		
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			perspective, we say, look, this is very important. If Allah wanted, God wants us to be guided. Yeah,
if God wants us to be guided, surely, he should give us the same access point to the guidance that
he gave the primary audience. Think about that. If God wants us to be guided, then surely we should
have the same access to the prescriptions, the commands and the injunctions that the primary
audience which were originally commissioned to believe were given. And we say, look, we are and we
can prove through an academic route, as well as the spiritual route, whereas other traditions,
especially Ancient Ones, can't do either. So with that, inshallah, we'll conclude