Mohammed Hijab – Intellectual Seerah #18 Battle of Mutah

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The speakers discuss the importance of the " crucial" approach to the life of the prophet Muhammad Sallallavi Alaihi Wa caught, which is focused on employer's Insurance approach to the life of the prophet Muhammad Sallallavi. The success of Muhammad's approach to the fight against the new arrival of the new army of the Muslims is attributed to his success in expanding his mission and expanding his mission, and the interviewer discusses the importance of acknowledging achievements and not just acknowledging them, as well as the theory of the holy city and the confusion between political views. The central point is that the three greatest general of all time is the third, which is the success of Muhammad's approach to the fight against the new army of the Muslims.

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			How are you guys doing? And welcome to
		
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			the next session of the critical
		
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			or the intellectual
		
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			where we employ the interdisciplinary
		
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			approach
		
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			to the life of the prophet Muhammad Sallallahu
		
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			Alaihi Wa Salam.
		
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			And last episode, we spoke about,
		
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			whereby the prophet
		
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			had a particular,
		
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			if you like, antagonistic relationship with particular Jews
		
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			in Haibar. We talked about the
		
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			end game there. Today we're going to be
		
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			speaking about Motta.
		
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			And Motta is a place, in fact, which
		
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			is located in current day Jordan.
		
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			Okay?
		
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			Near a town called Karak.
		
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			And this was
		
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			a battle.
		
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			Many of the serial writers referred to it
		
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			as a Hazwa, but in reality it is
		
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			not a razwa because a razwa is really
		
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			defined as a battle wherein which the prophet
		
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			Muhammad SAW A'SAW Salam engages in himself.
		
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			So it's Israeli,
		
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			but these are just expressions
		
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			and they don't really
		
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			detract from the fact that this is actually
		
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			a very important battle in Islamic history.
		
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			If you think about it in sports terms,
		
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			okay, if you think about it in sports
		
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			terms,
		
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			it's the first time
		
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			the Muslim army
		
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			was now tested
		
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			against international opponents. It's like you have for
		
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			example the country league,
		
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			where all these teams are playing each other
		
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			and then now you have the world cup.
		
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			And it wasn't any kind of opponent, it
		
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			was indeed
		
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			the most formidable opponent in the world in
		
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			the day. So putting it in a football
		
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			context is like playing Argentina in the first
		
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			match.
		
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			And Saudi Arabia has a good record doing
		
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			that. I mean,
		
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			in the recent World Cup. But this was
		
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			a significant
		
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			escalation
		
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			and serious
		
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			tests of the military might of the Muslim
		
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			polity.
		
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			And so
		
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			the first thing we wanted to cover here
		
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			before speaking about was
		
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			in fact
		
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			something called the Amr Al Khadda. Now, Amr
		
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			Al Khadda
		
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			was, if you remember, with Hudaybiyyah,
		
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			they went out
		
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			in order to do pilgrimage,
		
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			the minor pilgrimage, the Amra,
		
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			and they didn't do that, they shaved their
		
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			heads
		
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			upon the instruction of prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi
		
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			Wasallam.
		
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			They all shaved their heads and they went
		
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			back. They didn't complete a Umrah in that
		
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			regard.
		
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			And so what Amrit Al Khaddad really is,
		
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			was Khaddad means a makeup
		
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			act of worship,
		
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			to make something up. So this was to
		
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			make up for the umrah that they missed.
		
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			And they went there with weaponry. Usually,
		
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			they would have small weapons that they would
		
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			attach to their garments, the inner garments.
		
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			This time,
		
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			they actually used the kinds of weapons
		
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			that they would or they brought with them
		
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			the kinds of weapons that they would take
		
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			to a war.
		
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			In which case, the Qurasis were very alarmed,
		
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			and said, why is it that you are
		
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			taking these weapons
		
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			when we have a treaty in Hudaybiyyah?
		
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			And what the response was was
		
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			that the prophet said, salas alam,
		
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			that he was not bringing them into the
		
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			precincts
		
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			of the holy
		
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			Kaaba and to the middle Haram.
		
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			But indeed he was leaving it outside with
		
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			people to guard them, which is interesting because
		
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			we spoke about the importance of upholding contracts
		
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			in Islam.
		
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			And if you look at the very fine
		
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			details of the contract, the technicality if you
		
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			like the contract,
		
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			there was nothing saying that you couldn't use
		
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			armory outside the precincts.
		
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			And so this was,
		
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			exploited
		
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			by the Muslims
		
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			because when you're dealing with a with a
		
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			very
		
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			harsh enemy, then you have to exploit every
		
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			single technicality.
		
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			So long as you're not at least going
		
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			against
		
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			the wording of the contract. There are different
		
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			ways
		
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			the Sharia seems to
		
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			correspond
		
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			with different types of people.
		
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			So a contract with a Muslim,
		
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			the Sharia wants you to be more charitable
		
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			with a Muslim, more concessionary with a Muslim.
		
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			Like for example, in the Quran it says,
		
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			That if the person was someone
		
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			who had difficulty,
		
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			then you should look, Allah says in the
		
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			Quran,
		
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			to a way to make ease for him.
		
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			If this person was someone who has difficulty,
		
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			try and make it easy for them. But
		
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			these people are not in that category. These
		
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			people are creating difficulty for us.
		
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			Now with current events, one could say
		
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			and I had a conversation with,
		
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			who is considered to be one of the
		
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			great scholars of the day. And I won't,
		
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			repeat, exactly what happened because it was a
		
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			private discussion.
		
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			But he was, he's a Hanafi scholar in
		
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			Pakistan. I went on to,
		
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			Darla'alum,
		
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			Karachi.
		
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			And I had discussion with him on the
		
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			on the status
		
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			of the Islamic treaties
		
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			with Israel.
		
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			You know, you have many countries that have
		
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			treaties, camp David of course and so on
		
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			with Israel. Now he had a particular view,
		
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			which I think he's voiced public, you can
		
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			take a look at it.
		
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			But it took the same principle of
		
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			not being charitable with people, who are not
		
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			charitable with you. Especially those who have a
		
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			track record
		
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			of breaking their contract in the first place.
		
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			So it depends on who you're dealing with,
		
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			who you're contracting with.
		
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			The idea of contracts in Islam is
		
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			a whole animal in and of itself that
		
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			needs to be
		
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			analyzed, understood.
		
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			For example, we've spoken before about what the
		
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			Quran mentions.
		
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			Where it says that if the people continually
		
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			break their contract,
		
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			it says
		
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			If you have a people that continually break
		
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			their contracts,
		
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			then
		
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			then basically nullify the contract with them. So
		
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			it can be the same. So it can
		
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			be even.
		
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			So it can be even. What's the point
		
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			of having an asymmetrical relationship with somebody? I'm
		
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			upholding my side of things.
		
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			You see?
		
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			If you're not upholding your side of things,
		
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			then I don't I no longer
		
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			need to uphold my side of things
		
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			because you're betraying your word.
		
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			So the response
		
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			to someone betraying
		
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			their word
		
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			is for you
		
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			to nullify the contract.
		
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			This This is very interesting, very important, but
		
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			obviously the general rule
		
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			is,
		
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			oh you who believe,
		
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			fulfill the contracts. Al Muslimona Allah assured to
		
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			him that Muslims are upon their conditions. These
		
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			are very important things in Islam. We're talking
		
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			about contracts with enemies. Nevertheless,
		
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			the prophet,
		
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			also married Maimouna, and I think he was
		
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			she was the last
		
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			person
		
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			that
		
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			he married, salaam alayhi salaam, in the Sira.
		
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			Might be incorrect, but I have to double
		
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			check that.
		
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			She was married to,
		
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			ibn Abdul Azza before, and then the
		
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			Actually,
		
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			the matchmaker was the sister-in-law
		
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			of Al Habes, who's the uncle of the
		
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			prophet Muhammad SAWSAWA.
		
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			So these are some of the things
		
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			that took place
		
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			before.
		
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			Another thing which you you should know, actually,
		
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			the conversion stories
		
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			and I was looking at the book of
		
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			Sira, of the Sira Sahiha
		
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			by Muhammad
		
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			Al Ali
		
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			or Ibrahim Al Ali, I think his name
		
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			is. Ibrahim Al Ali Ibrahim Al Ali.
		
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			And he's, he puts he has a whole
		
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			section
		
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			of the conversions
		
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			of these people, and so there are Sahih
		
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			Hadith that are connected to them. The first
		
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			one is, Amr ibn al-'As, how did he
		
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			convert?
		
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			Well, it says that he became it became
		
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			clear to him that Mecca would be conquered
		
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			next,
		
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			and so he said, I'm gonna go to
		
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			Abyssinia
		
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			to be under Najashi
		
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			interestingly
		
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			and Najashi
		
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			obviously being a Muslim started giving him dua
		
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			It's
		
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			Hajib, isn't it? You run away all the
		
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			way from Islam,
		
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			and then
		
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			Islam finds you in the place you run
		
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			away.
		
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			It's unbelievable, really. And I've seen this phenomena
		
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			with a lot of people that come from
		
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			the Muslim world to the West.
		
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			When I was in Pakistan recently,
		
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			the guys I I speak into a lot
		
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			of the guys then they were saying to
		
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			me, look. I said, where did you become
		
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			practicing stuff? I became practicing in the United
		
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			States. I I lived in I lived in
		
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			Pakistan and then I went to the United
		
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			States.
		
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			And there was a Muslim community there and
		
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			I became practicing in the United States. Hajiib
		
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			is is weird. But the reason
		
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			why that can sometimes happen is because
		
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			sometimes you feel like the environment
		
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			should put you in a certain place. When
		
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			you come out of the environment, you're certain
		
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			in the same place. It's a divine message
		
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			That wherever you're gonna go, the
		
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			the guidance will find you. And Khaldun Walid
		
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			saw Ahmed bin Nas. Now Khaled as you
		
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			can imagine,
		
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			who's gonna be a huge figure in Islam.
		
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			And he told him, Amr told Khaled that
		
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			he was going to be a Muslim.
		
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			Now Khaled himself were very interestingly,
		
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			and I saw some narrations to this effect.
		
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			He stated that,
		
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			if you remember he there was an Uhud,
		
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			he was kind of
		
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			tactful, and he was the reason why the
		
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			archers were defeated.
		
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			In the Hazab, he was the only one
		
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			to come through the defenses of the trenches,
		
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			and then he went back because there was
		
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			not much,
		
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			there to help him.
		
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			But
		
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			in Hudaybiyyah,
		
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			he was outmaneuvered
		
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			by the prophet Muhammad SAW. He was put
		
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			in a certain place,
		
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			and he stated that this
		
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			is something he felt overwhelmed
		
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			with. Now this reminds me of a hadith
		
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			of Ruqanah. It's a weak Hadith, but interestingly
		
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			some people have made
		
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			to have seen of it. Roqana was this,
		
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			expert wrestler, freestyle wrestler. And he had a
		
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			wrestling match
		
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			with the prophet Muhammad salallahu alaihi wa sallam,
		
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			and the prophet salallahu alaihi wa sallam defeated
		
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			him. 3 times. Yeah. 3 times. He said
		
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			this is not possible that this could have
		
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			been,
		
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			like, from a man that's, you know, he's
		
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			not he's not living the life of a
		
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			wrestler,
		
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			you know, because these things take a lifetime
		
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			to accomplish.
		
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			Likewise, Khaled and Waleed, I think he realizes
		
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			that I cannot be outmaneuvered.
		
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			How is it possible that someone of my
		
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			level
		
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			can be outmaneuvered with a man who hasn't
		
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			lived that life? And we were talking before
		
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			on paper,
		
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			it's, you know, the Prophet had a novice
		
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			record, a novice military record.
		
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			How could he
		
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			outdo someone like Khanan Walid? So in the
		
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			mind of people like that, because they realize
		
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			the kind of sophistication, the kind of skill
		
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			that is required.
		
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			In order to get to that level, they
		
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			realize that for someone to get to that
		
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			level, they must be divinely
		
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			helped.
		
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			I've seen this many times
		
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			in sports
		
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			and in other places,
		
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			where
		
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			someone
		
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			knows the level of somebody else because they
		
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			know how how long it takes to get
		
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			to that level.
		
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			It's not possible.
		
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			So the point I'm making to you is,
		
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			Khal Mawlid decided
		
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			to become
		
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			Muslim, but not just because of this incident.
		
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			There was another thing, Al Waleed m Walid
		
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			because
		
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			he had a brother called Al Waleed m
		
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			Walid.
		
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			Yeah. He sent him a letter telling him
		
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			that it's time to become Muslim and so
		
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			on. Don't forget Alwaleed was
		
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			a prisoner of war in the battle of
		
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			Badr.
		
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			And he was taken by the Prophet by,
		
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			the Muslims.
		
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			And Khan al Nawlid freed him, and then
		
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			he went back to the Muslims.
		
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			So
		
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			when Khalil Mwaleed saw the loyalty
		
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			that Al Waleed and Waleed exhibited to the
		
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			Muslims, he said there's something about this religion,
		
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			which outdoes even tribal, family,
		
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			ties, everything.
		
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			So there's 2 things you could see Subhanallah.
		
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			How Allah uses different kinds of methods to
		
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			bring different kinds of people to Islam.
		
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			But Khaled will be, of course, important in
		
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			this battle.
		
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			Now, this is the only battle against the
		
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			Romans that the Muslims engaged with directly.
		
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			The prophet Muhammad did not participate in this
		
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			one, and we had 3
		
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			commanders,
		
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			and it was referred to as Jaishul Umara,
		
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			or
		
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			the army of the leaders.
		
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			And Mu'ta is the name, as we mentioned,
		
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			of a small village in present day Qaraq,
		
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			which is not far away, actually, even
		
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			from Amman, the capital city of Jordan. I
		
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			think it is somewhere
		
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			in the distance between the two places.
		
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			And don't get confused. Amman is a country.
		
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			Amman is the capital of Jordan. These are
		
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			2 different different things.
		
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			People get confused because this especially in English,
		
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			you know, people get confused between the two
		
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			things.
		
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			So what happened? What happened in the
		
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			preamble to this particular war was that you
		
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			had an individual called Alharath Al Asdi,
		
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			who was the ambassador of the Prophet Sallallahu
		
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			Alaihi Wasallam. So the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam
		
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			sent a messenger
		
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			or, someone the postman or mess an ambassador
		
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			with a letter
		
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			to the Hasanid tribes.
		
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			Now the Hasanids
		
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			were a vassal tribe,
		
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			who was subordinate to the Roman Empire. They
		
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			were Christian,
		
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			hence their allegiance to the Roman Empire, because
		
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			Romans were Christians themselves.
		
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			And they were vassals, so they were probably
		
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			receiving in fact, they were definitely receiving monetary
		
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			compensation
		
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			from the Roman Empire themselves.
		
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			It's interesting that the Romans decided not to
		
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			conquer,
		
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			but instead to put in place some kind
		
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			of vessels that could take care of their
		
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			interest.
		
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			Because why didn't the question would be, why
		
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			didn't the Romans or the Persians decide
		
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			to conquer this land? Maybe they thought the
		
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			the natural resources weren't enough.
		
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			The,
		
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			the temperature was too hot.
		
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			It was a difficult place to manage. All
		
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			these kind of things maybe went into their
		
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			mind. And so why buffer state. They used
		
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			it as a buffer state. They use it
		
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			as a buffer state. Do you you wanna
		
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			expand on that? Yeah. Basically, because the the
		
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			territory territory
		
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			was, very on inhospitable.
		
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			It wasn't worth,
		
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			you know, fighting over. So because it was
		
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			very hot and arid land.
		
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			They used it as a natural buffer between
		
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			the two empires.
		
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			So the Persians on one side and the
		
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			Romans on one side, and these and the
		
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			Arabs were in the middle. So it was
		
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			a it was a natural buffer state in
		
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			between. That's a very good point. Demarcation for
		
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			both empires. Yeah. Maybe they didn't they didn't
		
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			see them as a threat. They didn't see
		
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			them as a friend. Also, they had these
		
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			tribal issues. They just keep fighting each other.
		
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			Mhmm. Maybe they just leave them to let
		
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			them resubmit. Mhmm.
		
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			Sure. So they have this of
		
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			the gasanids,
		
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			who, as we say,
		
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			the vessels for the Roman Empire.
		
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			And, this guy
		
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			who's called,
		
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			Shahrabi,
		
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			he was the leader of the Ghassanids. And
		
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			what he done was some narration show that
		
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			this ambassador came and he he killed the
		
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			ambassador. Now in ancient medieval
		
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			custom, to kill an ambassador would be seen
		
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			as one of the most dishonorable things you
		
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			can do. Even nowadays, actually,
		
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			is seen as a very dishonorable thing to
		
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			do.
		
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			Of course, the Israelis are
		
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			dishonorable people by nature.
		
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			Or their politics is just completely dishonorable,
		
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			I should say.
		
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			Before anything
		
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			is said
		
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			and and so therefore, they do stuff like
		
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			that. So
		
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			here we have
		
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			a Hadith, which is interesting, when the prophet
		
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			was establishing. It's in Bukhari.
		
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			He was establishing the leaders.
		
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			And as the Hadith mentions,
		
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			that,
		
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			the first
		
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			person
		
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			was
		
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			that was established
		
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			was Zayd bin Harith. And I'll just give
		
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			you a member
		
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			who this
		
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			person is.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Zayd bin Harissa,
		
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			who is he? Actually you tell me who
		
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			who who is he?
		
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			Who is Zayd bin Harissa?
		
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			He's
		
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			a son of,
		
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			a freed slave.
		
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			What was the relationship between him and the
		
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			father? He's the adopted,
		
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			grandson of the prophet. Adopted son? Adopted son
		
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			and Osama is the grandson. Yes. Yeah. So
		
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			what was the relationship between him and the
		
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			prophet?
		
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			Father son. It was like it was like
		
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			a son.
		
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			I just imagine this because let's let's pause
		
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			here for a second. Imagine this. Yeah? Now
		
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			you have the prophet Muhammad SAW Salam. Yeah?
		
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			There's a military expedition.
		
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			The person who is going to be the
		
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			leader,
		
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			as we're going to see,
		
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			is clearly the one who's at most risk.
		
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			Not least because they have to actually physically
		
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			hold the flag.
		
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			We're gonna see that this is the case.
		
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			The person who is the leader is at
		
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			the most risk. The prophet Muhammad Sallalahu Wa
		
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			Salam,
		
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			if you remember the story between him and
		
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			Zayd bin Haritha,
		
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			in the Meccan period, now it's going back
		
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			a few sessions now.
		
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			What what kind of events took place? Do
		
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			you remember?
		
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			Let's let's take us Let's go back into
		
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			a time machine a little bit, and think
		
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			about
		
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			in whose house did did in Hadithah
		
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			live?
		
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			Yeah. With who?
		
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			With Khadija.
		
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			Khadija.
		
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			Okay. And then what happened with his father?
		
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			Does anyone remember what happened?
		
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			His father came to buy him back,
		
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			and,
		
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			he was given the option to stay with
		
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			his father, or to stay with the prophet
		
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			SAWSAW, and he decided to stay with the
		
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			prophet.
		
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			Yes. And he decided to stay with the
		
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			prophet Muhammad, sallallahu alaihi wa sallam. So that
		
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			shows you the the love that he had
		
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			for the prophet, sallallahu alaihi wa sallam. Zaid
		
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			is the only
		
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			Sahabi
		
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			mentioned in the Quran by name.
		
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			Okay?
		
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			Is the only Sahabi mentioned in the Quran,
		
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			Surah Al Hazab, by name?
		
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			I'm trying to think of the
		
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			But this Zaid is the only one mentioned
		
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			in Quran,
		
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			from all the Sahabis.
		
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			Now, he was really close to Abu Asa.
		
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			He was like a son.
		
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			You know, the love that he had is
		
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			is immense.
		
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			Imagine your own father coming back as a
		
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			as a young person,
		
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			and you are choosing
		
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			this man, Mohammed SAW Salam, over your own
		
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			father.
		
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			Now
		
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			you are elected
		
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			as the leader of an expedition
		
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			against the single
		
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			most dangerous force,
		
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			not just in the world until that day,
		
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			but potentially and arguably
		
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			that humanity has ever known, which is the
		
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			Roman Empire.
		
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			At least one of the top 3 or
		
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			the top 5.
		
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			You are going to fight the Romans,
		
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			and so
		
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			you are chosen as a leader.
		
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			And the second person to be chosen as
		
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			a leader is whom?
		
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			Is Jafar ibn Abi Talib. And who remembers
		
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			him from the Seerah?
		
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			What yes.
		
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			Cousin of prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam, brother of
		
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			Ali radiAllahu. Yes.
		
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			Give me an event that happened in the
		
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			Sira before Muhtar, before this particular event. What
		
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			what thing happened
		
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			with Jafar?
		
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			Jafar? And I'll just give you
		
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			a memory.
		
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			Think about when they were sent to Abyssinia.
		
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			What happened? What did Jafar?
		
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			What was the role of Jafar ibn Abi
		
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			Talib?
		
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			Oh, he was speaking to the leader of
		
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			Yes. Of Yes. Basinie. Yes. What did he
		
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			say?
		
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			Najashi. Najashi.
		
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			He was,
		
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			he he had an argument
		
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			Mhmm. About the other messenger that Christ sent.
		
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			Mhmm. And he stood up and he said
		
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			that, he said, how tell me about your
		
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			prophet, and he said that we were people
		
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			and we had this and that, and then
		
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			we have been sent here to seek a
		
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			refuge here.
		
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			And then, what did he recite from? What
		
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			number?
		
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			What Surah? Yeah. Surah.
		
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			Yeah. Surah. Yeah. Surah. Surah.
		
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			Yeah. About the Jesus. He spoke about the
		
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			Jesus. Yes. And then the guy was impressed
		
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			that the same we we believe the same.
		
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			Beautiful. Beautiful.
		
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			So here you have number 1, you have
		
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			Zaire ibn Haqq, who is like the son
		
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			of the prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Salam. He
		
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			was appointed as the leader.
		
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			Then you had Jafar.
		
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			Okay. Jafar,
		
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			there's something that shows the love of the
		
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			prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam. Yeah. When when
		
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			Khaybar was conquered, Jafar returned from Abhishek.
		
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			So the prophet
		
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			tell told us, Abba, I'm not sure whether
		
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			she'll be more joyful
		
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			of the conqueror of Khaybar or of the
		
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			return of Ja'far. Alhamdulillah. So it shows that
		
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			level. Yes.
		
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			Yes. That is a very
		
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			it's a very beautiful point. Where did you
		
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			return from, sir? From Habsa.
		
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			Oh.
		
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			Oh, so when cyber happened is when they
		
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			were Yeah.
		
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			To where to Medina?
		
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			The third person was.
		
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			Okay. Who knows anything about?
		
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			Abdulai.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			What I didn't know,
		
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			when I was preparing for this, and I
		
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			was reading some of the shav that he
		
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			has he's proper very, very good poet, you
		
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			know. Yeah.
		
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			You know, if well, maybe maybe we'll do
		
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			this, maybe we'll just spend like, not now,
		
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			but when we get to the point,
		
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			some of the main poetries of Abdullah ibn
		
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			Waha.
		
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			It's amazing how this guy spoke.
		
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			But you'll see that Abdullah ibn Waha,
		
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			he was one of the guys that You
		
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			can really see the human side in him.
		
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			Because one of the poetries And I'll try
		
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			and read the the way he said it,
		
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			it's very powerful. One of the poetry is
		
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			that he was saying when he got to
		
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			the battlefield,
		
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			and he now has the the flag was
		
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			that, you know, he's trying to he's speaking
		
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			to himself.
		
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			He's saying that why why why you yeah.
		
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			He are you are you scared now? And
		
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			that let's see. I will see it, but
		
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			he said it in such a poetic and
		
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			beautiful way. I don't wanna try and butcher
		
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			it with
		
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			with this. One amazing thing about his poetry
		
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			was was mentioned later on. I think Muhammad
		
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			bin Sirid mentioned this.
		
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			That mainly there were 3 posts of the
		
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			prophet
		
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			that were insulting Quraysh at the time. You
		
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			have Hassan al Thabit, Uqab, ibn Malik. So
		
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			both poets
		
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			would attack Quraysh on matters of lineage
		
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			and genuine matters. Abdullah would attack them in
		
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			his forms based on worshiping
		
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			idols. Mhmm. So at the beginning, Quraysh didn't
		
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			care about Abdullah Raaha's insults and they cared
		
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			much about Kab. They've been Malik and Hassan
		
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			al Thabit.
		
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			Later on, when they became Muslims,
		
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			they felt the heat of the poems of
		
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			Abdul Abruwaha way more severe than what's Ka'b
		
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			Malika has mentioned later
		
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			on. Because
		
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			And what you know what's really beautiful about
		
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			from my perspective?
		
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			As I'm looking at a man here
		
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			who's a warrior at the highest level, but
		
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			he's also a public speaker at the highest
		
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			level.
		
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			No. It's true though, isn't it?
		
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			It was a the
		
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			Quran. But he was so he was known
		
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			with his poetry to defend.
		
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			That's interesting because some people come and say
		
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			that when it comes to,
		
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			dawah, is is it tawkefir? Like, that that
		
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			you cannot it's only done in a specific
		
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			way. So can we come and say that
		
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			we can do dawah through poetry?
		
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			Or was it was it dawah, was he
		
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			defending them? I know. But you see, the
		
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			problem now, the other party will say that
		
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			the prophet,
		
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			it happened during his time, so he agreed.
		
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			So it wouldn't refute the point of whether
		
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			or not,
		
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			the means of Dawah must be or not.
		
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			You see? Oh, so you're saying that they
		
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			cannot say it's Tawkeefi?
		
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			It's it's an uncorrect statement to say that's
		
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			beside a dawah, the means of dawah or
		
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			talk if he. It's not correct. But I
		
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			don't see that you can refute that point
		
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			on basis that Abdul Abruha during the time
		
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			of used these means. Because the other part
		
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			will simply say, okay. This is within
		
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			the means of Islam. Because of Islam. Powers
		
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			in the middle of it. I think it's,
		
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			also narrated that once
		
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			he was
		
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			having a poetry
		
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			or, let's say, he was saying a poem
		
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			in front of the prophet, and somebody said,
		
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			oh, here's the prophet. Stop it. And the
		
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			prophet asked him to stop because
		
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			his words are more hard to courage than
		
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			swords.
		
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			Think there's,
		
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			that's Hassan.
		
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			Think,
		
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			Abdul. I I because,
		
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			yeah. I don't know if it was mortar
		
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			or any other pattern. So the prophet, I
		
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			think Hassan
		
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			was present,
		
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			given some poetry. So one of the companions
		
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			told Hassan,
		
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			in the house of Allah, a zujan,
		
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			and in front of the prophet, are you
		
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			doing this? Yeah. He mentioned in poetry. So
		
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			the prophet
		
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			intervened and said,
		
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			meaning that
		
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			what he is,
		
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			delivering is way severe.
		
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			I think this is such a good point,
		
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			Sheikh. I think maybe we should bring Ali
		
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			Dua in as well and everyone else,
		
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			because, subhanAllah,
		
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			it shows you that the harp of the
		
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			war,
		
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			the Islamic war, is not just a physical
		
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			one. Mhmm. It really is.
		
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			When the prophet Muhammad SAW Salam said
		
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			that struggle with the the enemy, the disbelievers
		
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			with your
		
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			be with with yourselves,
		
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			with your physical selves. And then it says
		
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			that with your monies and then with your
		
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			with your tongues as well.
		
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			Yeah. And the scholars say that this is
		
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			the Quran. Yeah. Yeah. So you've got these
		
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			things, but then this shows you it's it's
		
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			very interesting because if you look at there's
		
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			a whole chapter in the Quran called
		
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			Surah Surah Surah, the chapter of the poets.
		
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			It's chapter 26 of the Quran.
		
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			And the only place where the Surah are
		
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			actually mentioned
		
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			is in the last page, maybe in the
		
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			last 5 a's, really. 5, 6 a's, 7
		
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			a's, something like that.
		
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			And
		
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			in the beginning, a lot of the poets,
		
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			when these these verses came down, were very
		
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			upset
		
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			because they were poets. You see, they have
		
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			a creative ability
		
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			to engage the people on a public level.
		
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			You know? It's,
		
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			No. They do.
		
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			No. They do. But but so they were
		
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			upset because there was them. There was there
		
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			was this praise.
		
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			But the last ayah of the of that
		
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			particular Surah,
		
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			Yeah. This one
		
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			that accept for the ones who believe and
		
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			do righteous deeds.
		
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			And that and they mention Allah Allah, 3
		
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			things, religious. And then, one
		
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			and they seek retribution
		
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			after they have been injured.
		
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			That's what it's saying.
		
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			What is it talking about? It's talking about
		
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			the poets.
		
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			What is seeking retribution?
		
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			Some of them professors and exegetes say, it
		
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			is seeking retribution with poetry against those who
		
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			attack Islam and the Muslims with poetry.
		
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			Which means now in our times, when someone
		
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			on social media
		
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			attacking Islam and the Muslims
		
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			with prose and discussion
		
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			and videos and all kinds of things.
		
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			And if if the nonconformist
		
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			or the ones who don't wanna engage because
		
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			they're saying this is bidah
		
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			or this is whatever. They they they take
		
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			to that. Really, I would say that they're
		
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			deprecating and abasing
		
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			from
		
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			the and
		
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			objectives of Sharia.
		
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			Because if the prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam
		
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			was allowing
		
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			a people,
		
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			the poets,
		
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			to respond in kind with poetry,
		
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			then my Baluk, or what would you say
		
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			of the one who
		
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			would respond in the age of technology, and
		
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			videos, and
		
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			rational argumentation with the same thing?
		
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			So poetry in and of itself is a
		
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			tool that can be used for good, and
		
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			is a tool that can be used for
		
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			bad.
		
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			Just like the Internet and technology is a
		
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			tool that can be used for good
		
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			and a tool that can be used for
		
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			bad.
		
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			So long as the hada and the objective
		
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			is, we are responding
		
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			with this creative output
		
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			with this creative output
		
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			in order to
		
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			respond.
		
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			Like, nowadays, you have a lot of people
		
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			writing stories,
		
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			fictional stories.
		
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			And they have their narratives
		
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			inside of those fictional stories.
		
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			And there's a kind of impervious
		
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			reality
		
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			to a story. An argument, if you say
		
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			premise, premise, conclusion, it's easy to refute.
		
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			Premise premise conclusion. If it's wrong, I can
		
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			refute it. I can refute the pre pre
		
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			presupposition of the premise. I can refute the
		
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			premise. I can refute the
		
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			sequence of the premises
		
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			and the conclusion. It's pretty easy.
		
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			Arguments are important. That's why Allah
		
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			These are the arguments we gave Abraham
		
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			against his people, and we raise and rank
		
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			whoever we want.
		
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			But Allah doesn't say
		
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			that we're gonna give you the best arguments.
		
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			It says, We are going to narrate to
		
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			you the best of stories.
		
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			Why? Because it's it's Quran,
		
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			and Islam realizes that
		
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			there's something about stories.
		
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			Think about what people do with their time
		
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			today.
		
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			What people do with their time when they're
		
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			relaxing is watch series.
		
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			If I had to guess, I would say
		
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			90 to 95%
		
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			of the
		
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			watches Netflix or watches some kind of series
		
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			on Disney or some other thing or have
		
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			watched it at one point in time or
		
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			movies.
		
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			So it's it is the case that, yes,
		
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			we do need to respond
		
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			with arguments against arguments.
		
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			But if you try and use arguments against
		
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			stories,
		
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			it's it's bringing a knife to a gunfight.
		
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			It doesn't matter if your arguments are correct.
		
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			Like, if you are trying to respond to
		
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			poetry
		
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			with physicality,
		
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			Because there was an output for physicality,
		
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			and there was an output for poetry. You
		
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			have to beat them on both fronts.
		
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			It has to be a multifaceted,
		
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			multipronged
		
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			approach.
		
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			And the next stage of the dawah, looking
		
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			at this example and other examples,
		
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			should be to use all the halal means
		
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			possible to us and at our disposal
		
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			to respond in kind to the kind of
		
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			damage that's
		
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			Many of you have children. I have children
		
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			as well, and they watch cartoons. Okay? We
		
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			try and give them the Arabic cartoons, you
		
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			know, with the subtitles and, you know, the
		
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			dubbing and all this kind of thing. They
		
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			watch. You cannot. Trying to separate a child
		
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			in the 21st century from cartoons
		
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			is like trying to separate a fish from
		
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			water.
		
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			It's ridiculous.
		
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			Now you can have the nonconformist and say,
		
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			well, turn the, off and this and that.
		
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			But because of the convenience of how easy
		
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			it is for a mother to shut a
		
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			child up or a father to shut a
		
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			child up, watch this pepper pick for 1
		
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			hour whilst I just sit and relax for
		
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			a bit. Cartoons are always gonna pervade the
		
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			houses of the Muslim people.
		
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			And if cartoons are always gonna pervade the
		
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			houses of the Muslim people, why is it
		
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			that we have not been able to produce
		
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			cartoons at the same level as they guy
		
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			they have been doing it? Islamic ones. Now
		
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			we have been able to produce some, and
		
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			I've I've seen some of the Islamic ones.
		
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			There's some very good initiatives.
		
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			But the kind of money that's being spent,
		
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			the kind of effort that's being put,
		
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			it's non comparable.
		
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			100 of 1,000,000 in budget. Why do you
		
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			think Peppa Pig has tens and 100 of
		
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			1,000,000 of budget? Why?
		
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			Because they know the power of creativity.
		
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			Just like the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam
		
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			and the Muslims at that time, they knew
		
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			the power of poetry,
		
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			and they invested in it
		
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			and they encouraged it
		
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			and they facilitated it.
		
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			This is Dawa.
		
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			Dawa
		
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			22024
		
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			and over
		
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			and beyond is when you start thinking creatively
		
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			now.
		
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			This is this is what Islam is saying,
		
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			creative.
		
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			Where is where do you fit into that?
		
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			Because many people are watching this series. I
		
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			don't wanna make this into a a theoretical
		
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			exercise.
		
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			Many people have different talents in the Ummah.
		
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			Some people are.
		
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			We have many IT specialists. They don't know
		
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			what to do. They love Islam, but they're
		
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			not great public speakers, for example. Not everyone's
		
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			meant to be a great public speaker.
		
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			Leave it to Mohammed Hajab.
		
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			Leave it just to him.
		
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			Leave it to Abu Ahmed and to Ali
		
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			Dua. No problem. And the Sheikh Ham, there's
		
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			a few people. See,
		
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			these guys.
		
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			Just leave it to the Sapiens Institute.
		
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			Just fund them. Okay?
		
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			I'm I'm on a kid. But not
		
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			everyone has these same talents. Some other guys
		
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			are like, my god. These guys can make
		
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			a a a program overnight
		
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			on a phone.
		
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			How the question is, how is how is
		
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			your program gonna respond to the narratives of
		
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			the opponent?
		
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			That's Dawa now. 3 d Dawa. 4 d
		
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			Dawa.
		
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			I'm a make a AI Dua. Now I
		
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			got AI machines talking.
		
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			I watched the video today. I'm telling you
		
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			just today, I was having my lunch.
		
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			I was watching a video,
		
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			and it was
		
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			I clicked it. It was Joe Rogan. For
		
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			the first time I've heard in my life,
		
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			Joe Rogan is speaking
		
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			like a historian about a
		
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			a wrestler called, Abdulhaman Sadulev. And he was
		
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			telling his whole story and stuff. At the
		
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			end of it, well, you know what I
		
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			realized?
		
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			It wasn't
		
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			him. It was AI.
		
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			He was a voice over the whole time.
		
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			I was thinking, my God, it sounded
		
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			just like him.
		
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			So how can you make that with AI?
		
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			How can you make dawah with track gbt?
		
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			How can you make dawah with cartoons?
		
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			How are you gonna get into the literary
		
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			thing? How are you gonna do series?
		
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			How are you gonna do this? How are
		
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			you gonna do that? Recently this year, I
		
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			tried to do a share a series. Horrible.
		
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			They put 1,000,000 of money
		
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			to no avail. Subhan Allah.
		
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			No. I'm just saying,
		
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			and they were attacking, and they made the
		
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			the the bad guys into black guys. It
		
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			was like the on go, man. It's sorry
		
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			to say it was horrible.
		
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			It's actually
		
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			it's isolating everyone from them.
		
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			But nevertheless, at least they're giving it a
		
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			a good shot.
		
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			We're living in the west. We have opportunities
		
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			that most of the Ummah does not have.
		
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			So I don't know why when there's this
		
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			huge tangent, but I think it was a
		
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			beneficial one considering that because Abdullah Al Nduaha
		
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			is a poet, and you'll see some of
		
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			his poetry
		
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			as well.
		
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			So many contingents came in, and the Some
		
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			of the serial rights says about a 100,000
		
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			people.
		
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			A 100,000 people doesn't seem to be
		
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			I mean the thing is that we were
		
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			just talking about this. When the numbers are
		
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			mentioned in the Hadith,
		
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			70
		
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			1,000, 100,000.
		
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			Do we take this as an exact number?
		
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			And it let me give you an example.
		
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			I don't know who was Mokhira. Was it
		
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			Mokhira Moshaba? It says
		
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			that had a 1,000 wives.
		
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			Now I love these hadith.
		
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			The first time I said I was gonna
		
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			post it, I was gonna I said a
		
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			1,000 wives. Let's think about this for a
		
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			second.
		
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			It's it's actually impossible for him to have
		
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			a 1,000 wives.
		
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			Could not have a 1,000 wives because if
		
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			he had 4 wives at one time, and
		
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			he kept
		
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			divorcing them with the Ida is he would
		
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			not be able to exhaust a 1,000. We've
		
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			done the maths, and I found this impossible.
		
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			So the only thing that you can
		
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			say is that the word a thousand means
		
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			a lot.
		
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			Otherwise, you're in trouble.
		
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			Because it becomes, mathematically impossible.
		
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			Now in the Arabic language, the word 70
		
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			is usually that which means a lot.
		
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			And it's mentioned in the Quran, you know,
		
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			that if you, you know, if you
		
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			if you do for them or not,
		
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			forgive them or ask Allah to forgive them.
		
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			70 times.
		
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			So is the 70 mean 70? Yani, is
		
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			it 70 like that?
		
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			And we were talking also about the Hadith
		
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			of the,
		
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			which we'll have a series in the future,
		
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			We're gonna go through the eschatological stuff, and
		
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			I wanna I wanna hear all the new
		
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			age theories and we'll deal with them. I
		
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			wanna do this.
		
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			But, one of the one of the hadiths
		
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			is that
		
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			for every 1,000 of
		
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			such and such will be one of you.
		
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			Every 1,000 of them will be one of
		
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			you.
		
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			And I saw some shuruhat of the hadith.
		
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			And some shuruhat
		
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			say that it's, my jersey. Some do. Some
		
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			classical ones. I came across it. So a
		
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			1000,
		
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			100,000,
		
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			and these kind of things, it doesn't need
		
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			to be taken very literally.
		
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			It doesn't need to. Because if you say
		
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			a 100,000, how are you gonna find a
		
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			100,000?
		
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			100,000 is like a modern day, Yani.
		
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			Modern day number, actually.
		
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			It's very unlikely that they even had,
		
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			in that area, a 100,000 to go and
		
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			fight them, sorry to say.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			I was reading here that apparently one of
		
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			the, historians of Byzantine history said Yeah. At
		
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			that time, 7th century, they had a total
		
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			of a 100,000
		
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			number of men in the army, and they
		
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			probably only had 10,000 at.
		
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			The University of Shalala, this this Yeah. I'm
		
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			So I'm just saying that the these these
		
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			numbers, we have I think we have to
		
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			look at
		
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			that when in the hadith, it's mentioned a
		
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			1,000,
		
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			like, there needs to be a bath, a
		
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			proper research on these numbers.
		
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			A 1000, a 100000,
		
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			70, 700, all of that, like a proper
		
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			you'll see there's difference of there is difference
		
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			of opinion
		
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			as to how to interpret
		
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			this and in what context. 1,000 for that
		
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			terrain
		
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			in that heat. And and what they the
		
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			the the the Romans wore,
		
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			it's it's not I don't know. It's it's
		
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			In the Quran, there's a 100,000 is mentioned
		
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			only once in my understanding.
		
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			Yeah. About that. About about Yunus's people. I
		
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			cannot remember where this is now,
		
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			but it's,
		
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			that's where a 100,000
		
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			is mentioned. But the Quran,
		
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			it says a 100,000 or more.
		
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			Plus. Yeah. So a 100,000 plus.
		
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			But the way it's mentioning 100,000 in the
		
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			Quran
		
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			is like a ballpark figure. It's clear. Because
		
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			if it wasn't a ballpark, why did he
		
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			say, oh, Yazidun?
		
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			Is that right? Is that the area? Yeah.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			So it's like it's meant to be ballpark.
		
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			It's not meant because if it was not
		
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			more ballpark, then why is it more than
		
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			that?
		
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			Do you know what I mean?
		
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			The, the current size of the British army
		
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			is only 75,000.
		
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			75,000.
		
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			Yeah. Maybe that's active personnel, not the re
		
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			not the reservist. Yeah. Is that it?
		
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			75,000.
		
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			Yeah. Are you are you sure?
		
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			I think they have reserved for Maybe 250.
		
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			Check it check it out. No. No. No.
		
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			No. No. Country. 100,000. Something There there is
		
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			there is more there is more people in
		
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			prison in this country than
		
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			active
		
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			prisoners. Well, they probably could do more damage
		
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			as well, actually, if you brought brought them
		
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			out, the the those prisoners. 75,000. Is it
		
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			75? Wow. But that's understandable. No. Where the
		
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			UK army 75,000.
		
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			I might be surprised though. They don't fight.
		
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			No. Because Hamas is, like, 50,000. They're asking,
		
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			but they don't fight with men these days.
		
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			Back in those days, they did. Now they
		
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			have rockets. They No. But men is very
		
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			important still, though, man. 75,000 is a very
		
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			So back in those, it's understandable. It's a
		
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			100,000 because it's you there's war happening there
		
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			like these habitats, and you don't have rockets
		
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			flying from, there to there. I had no
		
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			idea because it's a big country. It's about
		
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			6 67,000,000
		
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			people, bro. Like island has about 2,000 Yeah.
		
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			I checked that. 6000, they said, active personnel
		
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			in Ireland,
		
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			which is
		
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			They have they have NATO, though. So it's
		
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			That's why they're all all of them are
		
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			depending on NATO. Right? On the Americans. They're
		
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			they're all depending on them. There are some
		
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			countries with no army. Like, I went to
		
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			Iceland,
		
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			and there's no army in Iceland. They they
		
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			have 0, not even one one person because
		
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			they're all depending on because they're quite close
		
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			to both the UK and the US. They're
		
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			in the middle of both.
		
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			And so I don't have an army, so
		
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			they depend on, other other countries to to
		
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			fight for them really.
		
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			But, yeah. 75,000 is a very low number.
		
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			So it's like we're saying what there's there
		
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			was more people in the UK army that
		
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			went to Moqta. I don't think so.
		
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			So I think that we need to look
		
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			at how these numbers are being used in
		
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			the in the Quran and Sunnah properly. I
		
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			think there is a Pakistani general Yeah. Who
		
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			looked at this mountain every other battles, and
		
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			he said he concluded that there were 10,000
		
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			people because Really? The Hassan is themselves and
		
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			the people, the tribes around them, they were
		
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			not that much more to exceed 10,000.
		
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			Or let's say as much as the Romans
		
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			sent. The Romans themselves fighting Persians, they didn't
		
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			have
		
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			100,000 people in their conflicts. See, that makes
		
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			sense. Yeah. Makes sense. So how can they
		
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			send for Arabs? Because Yeah. They didn't think
		
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			of Arab that there will be a big
		
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			army. So a thousand
		
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			people participated from Romans.
		
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			Mhmm. Think You said 10,000. Right? Yeah. Yeah.
		
00:42:07 --> 00:42:09
			It's totally 10000. Yeah. That makes sense. Hassan,
		
00:42:09 --> 00:42:11
			it's another. There were allies around it. Yeah.
		
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			That makes that makes sense. And that's still
		
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			quite that's a huge that's a huge figure,
		
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			probably, the 10,000 deals. I think the Ittifaki
		
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			opinion is 10,000.
		
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			Mhmm. That sounds like exaggeration about 100 times.
		
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			Is difficult to be able to count anyway.
		
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			You're you're fighting. How are you gonna cut?
		
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			Okay. Let's let's do a quick count here
		
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			to see how many That's why they say
		
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			that Yeah. Exaggeration is because if you have
		
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			few 1,000 let's say 100
		
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			people here,
		
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			so and you see the media report about
		
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			a protest, they will say someone will say
		
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			there were 500, some will say that because
		
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			they will look at the,
		
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			number of people from their own perspective. So
		
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			that's why Yeah. I think looking at numbers
		
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			can be a bit misleading as well. Yeah.
		
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			Because if you take a 1,000 SAS soldiers
		
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			and you take 10,000,
		
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			say, Pakistani troops or troops from Bangladesh or
		
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			whatever,
		
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			right, you can't compare the 2. The Romans
		
00:43:05 --> 00:43:05
			had centuries
		
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			of
		
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			battlefield experience,
		
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			tactical units, their armory, their,
		
00:43:12 --> 00:43:12
			their formation.
		
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			And if you look at the Arabs, the
		
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			Arabs just had these skirmishes that they had.
		
00:43:17 --> 00:43:19
			Their weaponry was very weak. It wasn't as
		
00:43:19 --> 00:43:21
			sophisticated. They imported it from, you know, India.
		
00:43:21 --> 00:43:23
			They had those types of weapons. So
		
00:43:23 --> 00:43:25
			even if the numbers were equal,
		
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			it would be a massive disadvantage for the
		
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			Muslims because of the battlefield experience the Romans
		
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			had. So this particular battle, people get lost
		
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			in the numbers when it's actually to do
		
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			with a if you imagine a superpower
		
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			with sophisticated,
		
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			battlefield experience
		
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			versus people that are just beginning to experience
		
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			warfare.
		
00:43:44 --> 00:43:46
			Yeah. Yeah. That's good. That that's why,
		
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			when
		
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			Muslims,
		
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			they were informed that Romans will participate in
		
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			this battle because they thought that only Hassan
		
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			it will be. So they hesitate it a
		
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			bit. They stop and they wanted to send
		
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			the messenger to pro prophet to ask for
		
00:44:01 --> 00:44:02
			his opinion.
		
00:44:02 --> 00:44:06
			And then, Ibn Rawaha, he encouraged everyone, and
		
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			he said that why we came here. We
		
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			came here for even Shahadah
		
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			or or victory, and this is time. Then
		
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			he encourage everyone in this start fighting. Mhmm.
		
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			This is really powerful.
		
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			Another thing that I came across which is
		
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			really powerful and one of the great miracles
		
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			of Islam that is mentioned in the story
		
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			is the fact that the prophet Muhammad Sallallahu
		
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			Alaihi Wasallam was in Medina,
		
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			and he was narrating as the story was
		
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			happening everything that was going on. And I
		
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			came across this hadith as an authentic hadith
		
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			and it was saying exactly what was happening.
		
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			And to the point where they started grieving
		
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			for when
		
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			the main players were were were were being
		
00:44:41 --> 00:44:43
			martyred. Yeah. He he and he was crying
		
00:44:43 --> 00:44:45
			because of it. Now this for me is
		
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			a great evidence for Islam.
		
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			Not only that. You don't know Muslim. I
		
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			don't know who was I don't know if
		
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			it was Edward Gibbons. The actually, there's a
		
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			historian that actually wrote the fall of these
		
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			individuals.
		
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			I don't know. I I heard it from
		
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			someone. I look into it. I'll put in
		
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			the description. Oh, oh, yeah. I've got I've
		
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			got some of the Roman. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
		
00:45:00 --> 00:45:01
			They they basically said, yeah, that they they
		
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			had this rule. I think mentioned by name
		
00:45:03 --> 00:45:05
			that he fell, and then another person grabbed
		
00:45:05 --> 00:45:06
			the
		
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			they they mentioned it. They mentioned the specific
		
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			incident. There is Roman historical information, which I'll
		
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			show you at the end of this. That's
		
00:45:11 --> 00:45:12
			Yeah. Yeah.
		
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			But you see, the this the fact that
		
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			the prophet was making these telling us what's
		
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			going on when they were complete so far
		
00:45:18 --> 00:45:20
			away from each other.
		
00:45:20 --> 00:45:22
			You know, they were 700 kilometers. Is that
		
00:45:22 --> 00:45:24
			how long is Yeah. Wow. So I mean,
		
00:45:24 --> 00:45:27
			it's now between Jordan and Saudi Arabia. But
		
00:45:27 --> 00:45:29
			just to say devil's advocate. Go on. You
		
00:45:29 --> 00:45:30
			need to understand that he did mention this
		
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			to them before they went
		
00:45:32 --> 00:45:35
			out. He did say if he falls, then
		
00:45:35 --> 00:45:36
			you should grab it. So it can be
		
00:45:36 --> 00:45:38
			a self fulfilled prophecy
		
00:45:38 --> 00:45:40
			because he did mention what to do in
		
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			that instance.
		
00:45:41 --> 00:45:42
			And then, yes, you're talking about, for example,
		
00:45:42 --> 00:45:44
			when it happened, he was narrating how it
		
00:45:44 --> 00:45:46
			happened. But someone can say it was so
		
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			for example,
		
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			At the end of it, when the 3
		
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			Yeah. And they said then then Leaders. I
		
00:45:53 --> 00:45:54
			want to pick, Then then,
		
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			it was taken by
		
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			So Khalil Muhri was not signed by the
		
00:46:03 --> 00:46:05
			prophet in the first instance. They chose him.
		
00:46:05 --> 00:46:06
			But in the when the prophet was mentioning
		
00:46:06 --> 00:46:07
			what was going on,
		
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			he he he mentioned.
		
00:46:10 --> 00:46:12
			Okay. So, when when you're seeing that when
		
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			the incident was going on, so when they
		
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			were
		
00:46:14 --> 00:46:17
			there, then, the prophet mentioned that, in that
		
00:46:17 --> 00:46:18
			gathering. He didn't mention
		
00:46:19 --> 00:46:20
			by name, but
		
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			was chosen by spot on spot.
		
00:46:23 --> 00:46:25
			Exactly. So are we seeing Sheikh Abdul, in
		
00:46:25 --> 00:46:27
			the gathering when he was telling the people
		
00:46:27 --> 00:46:29
			that he has fallen? Yeah. And then in
		
00:46:29 --> 00:46:30
			that instance, he mentioned Khaled and Walid, which
		
00:46:30 --> 00:46:32
			could not have been known.
		
00:46:33 --> 00:46:34
			Okay. That's interesting because then
		
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			it it dismantles this the other for Mussof
		
00:46:37 --> 00:46:39
			Allah got the flag. Yeah. And now they
		
00:46:39 --> 00:46:40
			will Yeah.
		
00:46:46 --> 00:46:47
			Got the flag.
		
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			And he was
		
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			transcribing the event Yeah. Time. Strategic,
		
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			thing where he made it seem as if
		
00:46:53 --> 00:46:55
			there's reinforcements coming in? Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll
		
00:46:55 --> 00:46:56
			come to that in a sec. So let's
		
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			let's take let's go through the battle now
		
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			because, as we mentioned, the first thing that
		
00:47:02 --> 00:47:05
			is very interesting is that Jafar dies first
		
00:47:05 --> 00:47:07
			of all in the battlefield and,
		
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			he loses both of his arms, so you
		
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			can imagine what kind of fighting he must
		
00:47:12 --> 00:47:14
			have been. I mean, first of all, if
		
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			he loses both of his arms, that must
		
00:47:15 --> 00:47:17
			mean he was fighting with one arm.
		
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			So he lost one arm and then he
		
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			held the flag with the other one and
		
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			well, that must have been very difficult.
		
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			And then fighting again with another arm, and
		
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			then losing both of his arm, and then
		
00:47:25 --> 00:47:26
			being killed.
		
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			This shows you the level.
		
00:47:28 --> 00:47:30
			Now this is a very, very, very high
		
00:47:30 --> 00:47:31
			spiritual and warrior
		
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			level. And of course, we believe that,
		
00:47:35 --> 00:47:37
			the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam told us that
		
00:47:37 --> 00:47:38
			Jafar
		
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			was will be flying around in heaven because
		
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			it'll be replaced with those 2 arms with
		
00:47:43 --> 00:47:44
			with wings
		
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			in heaven.
		
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			But,
		
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			what was
		
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			quite sad about this situation is that when
		
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			the prophet of Salam announced
		
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			that Jafar died,
		
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			his wife at the time was Asmaq Bintu
		
00:47:57 --> 00:47:58
			Umase.
		
00:47:58 --> 00:48:01
			If you remember, Asmet Bintu Omis married Jafar,
		
00:48:01 --> 00:48:03
			and then she married Abu Bakr Sidiq.
		
00:48:04 --> 00:48:07
			4 people. And Ali Abi and Ali Abi
		
00:48:07 --> 00:48:09
			Tabi Tabi. 3. Yeah. 3 from.
		
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			So the the family
		
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			there's a hadith in Bukhary,
		
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			which shows that when the prophet was announcing
		
00:48:17 --> 00:48:19
			what was happening, like, giving these,
		
00:48:20 --> 00:48:21
			this breakdown of what's going on at the
		
00:48:21 --> 00:48:22
			time,
		
00:48:24 --> 00:48:26
			that they were they were wailing, they were
		
00:48:26 --> 00:48:28
			crying, and so the women were very sad
		
00:48:28 --> 00:48:28
			about this
		
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			because he was a very strong figure. He
		
00:48:31 --> 00:48:33
			was always been like the the provider for
		
00:48:33 --> 00:48:35
			them, the backbone of the community. He was
		
00:48:35 --> 00:48:37
			a very seriously he was a massive figure
		
00:48:37 --> 00:48:37
			in the community.
		
00:48:38 --> 00:48:40
			And for him to die, his his wives
		
00:48:40 --> 00:48:42
			were crying and stuff like that. Aisha went
		
00:48:42 --> 00:48:43
			back to the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa
		
00:48:43 --> 00:48:45
			sallam, and she told him that, you know,
		
00:48:45 --> 00:48:46
			this is how they're reacting.
		
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			So he told them don't do that.
		
00:48:49 --> 00:48:50
			He so he told them to kinda calm
		
00:48:50 --> 00:48:52
			down a bit here because it can destroy
		
00:48:52 --> 00:48:53
			the morale of the Muslims,
		
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			but they continued anyway, and so he just
		
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			left him.
		
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			But Ayesha herself from this was very affected
		
00:49:01 --> 00:49:02
			emotionally from the situation.
		
00:49:02 --> 00:49:03
			You can imagine now.
		
00:49:04 --> 00:49:06
			But what happens next is even more sad
		
00:49:06 --> 00:49:07
			in my opinion
		
00:49:07 --> 00:49:08
			Because what happens
		
00:49:09 --> 00:49:11
			next after that is
		
00:49:11 --> 00:49:13
			Well, first you have,
		
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			Zayd.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Zaid
		
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			is
		
00:49:20 --> 00:49:22
			like a son to the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu
		
00:49:22 --> 00:49:22
			Alaihi Wasallam.
		
00:49:23 --> 00:49:25
			And now he grabs the flag
		
00:49:26 --> 00:49:28
			and he starts to fight in the thick
		
00:49:28 --> 00:49:30
			of the bow. It's actually Zayed first in
		
00:49:30 --> 00:49:30
			Jafar.
		
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			Is it Zayed? Yes. Zayed Oh, sorry. Sorry.
		
00:49:34 --> 00:49:36
			I didn't mention Zayed first. So Zayed.
		
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			And you imagine now Zayed has been like
		
00:49:40 --> 00:49:42
			a son to the prophet Hazaras Salam.
		
00:49:43 --> 00:49:44
			And all of the all of the hadith
		
00:49:44 --> 00:49:45
			that we come across.
		
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			Now he dies
		
00:49:49 --> 00:49:50
			in the battlefield.
		
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			Imagine what kind of emotional response prophet Muhammad
		
00:49:54 --> 00:49:55
			will have to that.
		
00:49:56 --> 00:49:57
			It's very
		
00:49:57 --> 00:49:59
			just like your own son. The prophet did
		
00:49:59 --> 00:50:01
			not have any sons that were adults.
		
00:50:02 --> 00:50:04
			And this he had a very serious emotional
		
00:50:04 --> 00:50:05
			connection with him.
		
00:50:06 --> 00:50:07
			So the fact that he died in the
		
00:50:07 --> 00:50:08
			battlefield like that,
		
00:50:09 --> 00:50:10
			and he couldn't even be there to see
		
00:50:10 --> 00:50:11
			him to see him
		
00:50:12 --> 00:50:13
			or to bury him.
		
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			It's one of the most painful things for,
		
00:50:17 --> 00:50:19
			you know, like a father to bury a
		
00:50:19 --> 00:50:19
			child.
		
00:50:20 --> 00:50:21
			The grief that this must have been the
		
00:50:21 --> 00:50:23
			saddest thing that happened to the prophet, as
		
00:50:23 --> 00:50:24
			Salam,
		
00:50:24 --> 00:50:25
			since the
		
00:50:25 --> 00:50:27
			death of Khadija.
		
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			It must have. And sometimes we skip over
		
00:50:31 --> 00:50:31
			this,
		
00:50:31 --> 00:50:33
			like but, emotionally,
		
00:50:34 --> 00:50:36
			this is probably one of the biggest calamities
		
00:50:36 --> 00:50:37
			of the life of the prophet Mohammed SAW.
		
00:50:38 --> 00:50:40
			And while he was informed, he sat down
		
00:50:40 --> 00:50:43
			because of the heaviness of the grief, and
		
00:50:43 --> 00:50:44
			he sat down.
		
00:50:45 --> 00:50:46
			He sat down,
		
00:50:47 --> 00:50:49
			and Aisha saw how sad he was. And
		
00:50:49 --> 00:50:51
			we have a Hadith and Bukhari to corroborate
		
00:50:51 --> 00:50:53
			that. Ibn Rawah, as we mentioned Sorry,
		
00:50:55 --> 00:50:58
			Ja'far dies as well, and then his families.
		
00:50:58 --> 00:50:59
			And then you have Ibn Rawah.
		
00:51:00 --> 00:51:01
			And that's where I I came across this
		
00:51:01 --> 00:51:03
			If you can find the poetry, some some
		
00:51:03 --> 00:51:03
			of the poetry
		
00:51:04 --> 00:51:06
			of Ibn Rawha and Mutta,
		
00:51:06 --> 00:51:07
			where
		
00:51:08 --> 00:51:09
			he's basically
		
00:51:10 --> 00:51:11
			saying to his own self,
		
00:51:13 --> 00:51:15
			what are what are you scared now? Not
		
00:51:15 --> 00:51:17
			to get into heaven?
		
00:51:17 --> 00:51:19
			Is this making you because he Remember, he
		
00:51:19 --> 00:51:21
			just seen 2 people die, like, and the
		
00:51:21 --> 00:51:23
			chances of him dying is very very high.
		
00:51:23 --> 00:51:24
			Because he's seeing that this is like a
		
00:51:24 --> 00:51:28
			machine, it's churning everyone up. The Romans, their
		
00:51:28 --> 00:51:29
			expensive material,
		
00:51:29 --> 00:51:31
			they destroy they're destroying everyone that goes in
		
00:51:31 --> 00:51:32
			there with the flag.
		
00:51:33 --> 00:51:34
			So he knows that he goes in there
		
00:51:34 --> 00:51:36
			with the flag, he's he's next.
		
00:51:37 --> 00:51:40
			And as he does his poetry, he goes
		
00:51:40 --> 00:51:43
			in and no doubt, he dies
		
00:51:43 --> 00:51:44
			as well.
		
00:51:45 --> 00:51:46
			All 3 of them are dead,
		
00:51:47 --> 00:51:48
			and the Muslims are in this panic mode
		
00:51:48 --> 00:51:50
			now because it's very important for them to
		
00:51:50 --> 00:51:51
			to have a leader.
		
00:51:53 --> 00:51:55
			So they want to appoint somebody.
		
00:51:57 --> 00:51:59
			And there's back and forth and at the
		
00:51:59 --> 00:52:01
			end of it, they realize the prowess of
		
00:52:01 --> 00:52:03
			Everyone knows the prowess of Khalil Ulyd, but
		
00:52:03 --> 00:52:06
			don't forget Khalil Ulyd has just converted to
		
00:52:06 --> 00:52:06
			Islam.
		
00:52:07 --> 00:52:08
			His loyalty has not been tested.
		
00:52:09 --> 00:52:10
			He's a newcomer.
		
00:52:12 --> 00:52:14
			So he he grabs the flag,
		
00:52:15 --> 00:52:16
			he leads the army,
		
00:52:18 --> 00:52:19
			and he the companion.
		
00:52:19 --> 00:52:21
			When Abdulawur Rawha was killed,
		
00:52:22 --> 00:52:23
			one of the companions
		
00:52:23 --> 00:52:25
			was a Bidri who fought with
		
00:52:25 --> 00:52:27
			in Bidr. He held the flag.
		
00:52:28 --> 00:52:31
			So then he asked the Muslims, appoint
		
00:52:31 --> 00:52:33
			a leader for you. So they asked him,
		
00:52:33 --> 00:52:35
			you become a leader. So he told them,
		
00:52:35 --> 00:52:36
			I'm not a leader.
		
00:52:36 --> 00:52:39
			Appoint a leader. Then the people chose Khal
		
00:52:39 --> 00:52:40
			Moi. Mhmm. So that's
		
00:52:41 --> 00:52:42
			Oh, thank you for that, Sheikh.
		
00:52:42 --> 00:52:43
			Absolutely.
		
00:52:43 --> 00:52:45
			So Al Muwiddie now he has the flag.
		
00:52:46 --> 00:52:48
			And he does what you were talking about,
		
00:52:48 --> 00:52:49
			Ali, is he starts to
		
00:52:49 --> 00:52:51
			give them the illusion that there's more of
		
00:52:51 --> 00:52:53
			them that there are than there actually are.
		
00:52:54 --> 00:52:56
			But then the best they can hope for
		
00:52:56 --> 00:52:56
			here
		
00:52:57 --> 00:52:58
			is
		
00:52:59 --> 00:53:01
			that they couldn't continue this fight with the
		
00:53:01 --> 00:53:04
			Romans. The Romans were too strong. You You're
		
00:53:04 --> 00:53:06
			not gonna invade the Roman Empire with that
		
00:53:06 --> 00:53:08
			numb those numbers of people. So Khaled, knowing
		
00:53:08 --> 00:53:10
			this with his military experience,
		
00:53:10 --> 00:53:12
			decided to cut his losses
		
00:53:13 --> 00:53:14
			and take the army back
		
00:53:15 --> 00:53:18
			and fight another day. This is how the
		
00:53:18 --> 00:53:19
			battle ended.
		
00:53:20 --> 00:53:21
			I had great that's what I'm gonna say.
		
00:53:21 --> 00:53:23
			It was kind of a victory because he
		
00:53:23 --> 00:53:24
			had great significance,
		
00:53:25 --> 00:53:28
			before the conquest of Mecca. Like, imagine
		
00:53:28 --> 00:53:30
			the the the new Muslims are fighting the
		
00:53:30 --> 00:53:33
			biggest power. It's a big, reputation.
		
00:53:33 --> 00:53:35
			Imagine you have a group of and and
		
00:53:35 --> 00:53:36
			you're fighting America
		
00:53:36 --> 00:53:38
			even it's it's like, for example,
		
00:53:39 --> 00:53:41
			you know, a person like
		
00:53:41 --> 00:53:44
			somebody who's just mediocre boxer and is fighting
		
00:53:44 --> 00:53:46
			someone like, I'm not Khabib, but let's say
		
00:53:46 --> 00:53:46
			McGregor.
		
00:53:47 --> 00:53:49
			Even if it's a draw, it's that probably
		
00:53:49 --> 00:53:51
			the fact what you fought did you get
		
00:53:51 --> 00:53:53
			it? So the the the the the reputation,
		
00:53:54 --> 00:53:56
			around the Arabian Peninsula was like, these guys
		
00:53:56 --> 00:53:58
			just went to war with, the Roman Empire.
		
00:53:58 --> 00:53:59
			No. That is a good point. And so
		
00:53:59 --> 00:54:01
			so it was very significant to the conquest
		
00:54:01 --> 00:54:02
			and the ripple effect. Because what it does
		
00:54:02 --> 00:54:03
			is psychologically,
		
00:54:04 --> 00:54:04
			it's,
		
00:54:05 --> 00:54:06
			making people like one. Okay. Hold on a
		
00:54:06 --> 00:54:08
			second. There's, you know, there can be truth
		
00:54:08 --> 00:54:09
			to this cause. You know? So it had
		
00:54:09 --> 00:54:11
			it had it was open the pathways. This
		
00:54:11 --> 00:54:13
			was like interesting, like in in Hudaybe when
		
00:54:13 --> 00:54:15
			Allah says, and we have granted you a
		
00:54:15 --> 00:54:15
			clear victory. Mhmm. But you don't see the
		
00:54:15 --> 00:54:15
			victory then, but there's a It was a
		
00:54:15 --> 00:54:15
			tactical It's a tactical victory. Mhmm. I'm I'm
		
00:54:15 --> 00:54:15
			good with those, actually. I've done it once
		
00:54:15 --> 00:54:16
			in my life. Mhmm. I'm
		
00:54:19 --> 00:54:19
			tactical victory. Mhmm. I'm I'm good with those,
		
00:54:19 --> 00:54:19
			actually. I've done it once in a while.
		
00:54:19 --> 00:54:20
			3 opinion about the
		
00:54:27 --> 00:54:29
			whether it's a victory, whether it was a
		
00:54:29 --> 00:54:30
			draw, whether it was not victory. Mhmm. I
		
00:54:30 --> 00:54:32
			think it's called as a true opinion on
		
00:54:32 --> 00:54:33
			that. We've got it here on the 10th
		
00:54:33 --> 00:54:33
			slide.
		
00:54:34 --> 00:54:35
			So there is a difference opinion.
		
00:54:36 --> 00:54:37
			States that there was
		
00:54:37 --> 00:54:39
			a victory because he says that there's a
		
00:54:39 --> 00:54:41
			lot of war booty that was, gotten taken.
		
00:54:41 --> 00:54:43
			Not many people died, actually. Yeah. He he
		
00:54:43 --> 00:54:45
			says that, well, you do not lose that
		
00:54:45 --> 00:54:45
			many people.
		
00:54:47 --> 00:54:48
			The first thing the prophet
		
00:54:48 --> 00:54:49
			mentioned, I remember that
		
00:54:53 --> 00:54:54
			When Khadwari took the flag,
		
00:54:55 --> 00:54:57
			then yeah. And it is say Khadwari took
		
00:54:57 --> 00:54:58
			the flag and
		
00:54:58 --> 00:54:59
			Allah made him victorious.
		
00:55:00 --> 00:55:01
			So that's a motivator
		
00:55:02 --> 00:55:03
			to look
		
00:55:05 --> 00:55:07
			at from that angle and that perspective,
		
00:55:07 --> 00:55:08
			that it's a victory.
		
00:55:08 --> 00:55:10
			So now we need to define what does
		
00:55:10 --> 00:55:12
			it mean that they were victorious.
		
00:55:12 --> 00:55:15
			Absolutely. So that if we go with the
		
00:55:15 --> 00:55:17
			modern day kind of analysis of what is
		
00:55:17 --> 00:55:18
			fulfilling the political objectives,
		
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			and what was the you go ask yourself,
		
00:55:22 --> 00:55:23
			if you wanna know what is a victory
		
00:55:23 --> 00:55:25
			or loss, what were the political objectives?
		
00:55:25 --> 00:55:27
			The political objectives, the reason why they went
		
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			to war with them in the first place
		
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			was because the ghazasenids.
		
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			And those ghazasenids attacked,
		
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			And so this was a retaliation. It was
		
00:55:35 --> 00:55:37
			a retaliatory strike. It wasn't meant to be
		
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			an invasion.
		
00:55:38 --> 00:55:39
			If you really think about it, it was
		
00:55:39 --> 00:55:41
			what was has ever been declared
		
00:55:42 --> 00:55:44
			that the Muslims wanna take over the Roman
		
00:55:44 --> 00:55:45
			Empire at this stage or a part of
		
00:55:45 --> 00:55:47
			it. It wasn't. If it was declared that
		
00:55:47 --> 00:55:49
			the the Muslims wanted to take over the
		
00:55:49 --> 00:55:51
			the Roman Empire and they didn't achieve that,
		
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			it would be seen
		
00:55:53 --> 00:55:55
			in modern day understanding of military for warfare
		
00:55:55 --> 00:55:56
			as a loss.
		
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			But the the worst I think anyone can
		
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			go with this is to say it was
		
00:55:59 --> 00:56:01
			a stalemate, but it was a show of
		
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			military power Yeah. On behalf of the Muslims
		
00:56:03 --> 00:56:05
			with losses that are attached to it. Exactly.
		
00:56:05 --> 00:56:06
			I don't think you could say it's a
		
00:56:06 --> 00:56:09
			loss because there wasn't any military objectives that
		
00:56:09 --> 00:56:11
			the Romans had the Romans weren't even
		
00:56:11 --> 00:56:13
			interested in the Muslims. Didn't even know of
		
00:56:13 --> 00:56:14
			their existence, furthermore.
		
00:56:15 --> 00:56:17
			I mean, they might have known through and
		
00:56:17 --> 00:56:18
			so on, but they didn't really they weren't
		
00:56:18 --> 00:56:19
			on the map for them. It's all the
		
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			situation now with, you know, Israel,
		
00:56:22 --> 00:56:23
			and they were like, yeah, we're gonna go
		
00:56:23 --> 00:56:24
			and destroy Hamas.
		
00:56:25 --> 00:56:27
			They they they they losing the battle, all
		
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			grounds because they they have most certainly not
		
00:56:28 --> 00:56:29
			destroyed Hamas.
		
00:56:30 --> 00:56:31
			So you can see that, you know, that
		
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			it might seem like Hamas been defeated but
		
00:56:33 --> 00:56:35
			they're not. And that's why when when the
		
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			a lot of them came back
		
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			to continue the story,
		
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			some of his companions were smearing them and
		
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			saying you are Forar. You are the ones
		
00:56:43 --> 00:56:45
			who ran away. And the prophet said, no.
		
00:56:45 --> 00:56:47
			No. They're not Forar, but they are the
		
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			ones who come back. Yeah. So he adjusted
		
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			the framing here because there is sometimes
		
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			there is reasonable
		
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			kind of there's a reason not to engage
		
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			with an army that's 10 times, a 100
		
00:56:58 --> 00:57:00
			times bigger than you, whatever, maybe 30, 50
		
00:57:00 --> 00:57:01
			times.
		
00:57:01 --> 00:57:03
			And Khaled Nwali knew that.
		
00:57:03 --> 00:57:05
			And the fact now Khaled and Waleed had
		
00:57:05 --> 00:57:08
			established himself as what he established himself.
		
00:57:09 --> 00:57:11
			You could argue that this was the point
		
00:57:12 --> 00:57:15
			where because of this situation that we saw
		
00:57:15 --> 00:57:17
			how Khaled reacted to that,
		
00:57:17 --> 00:57:19
			that Khaled would have his
		
00:57:19 --> 00:57:20
			reign
		
00:57:21 --> 00:57:22
			as what he became.
		
00:57:23 --> 00:57:25
			And because of that so in in many
		
00:57:25 --> 00:57:27
			ways, this it's like putting Messi on the
		
00:57:27 --> 00:57:28
			pitch for the first time.
		
00:57:29 --> 00:57:30
			The manager is able to see. Okay. Wait
		
00:57:30 --> 00:57:32
			a minute. We've got someone here that can
		
00:57:32 --> 00:57:34
			run like this, can be so it might
		
00:57:34 --> 00:57:36
			not be like, let's say, for example, Barcelona,
		
00:57:36 --> 00:57:39
			Messi in his heyday, were playing Real Madrid,
		
00:57:39 --> 00:57:40
			and we didn't know anything about Messi, and
		
00:57:40 --> 00:57:42
			then we put him on the pitch.
		
00:57:42 --> 00:57:44
			It was a one one victory. He scored
		
00:57:44 --> 00:57:47
			the goal, though. Messi scored the goal for
		
00:57:47 --> 00:57:49
			Barcelona. But when he scored the goal for
		
00:57:49 --> 00:57:49
			Barcelona,
		
00:57:49 --> 00:57:51
			the manager's like, the way this guy has
		
00:57:51 --> 00:57:53
			been playing throughout the day
		
00:57:54 --> 00:57:56
			has made me realize that we're gonna start
		
00:57:56 --> 00:57:57
			winning a lot of matches. Now you might
		
00:57:57 --> 00:57:59
			not have won that match. It might have
		
00:57:59 --> 00:58:01
			been a one one. But nevertheless, the fact
		
00:58:01 --> 00:58:02
			that you had Messi the pitch and you
		
00:58:02 --> 00:58:04
			can see his capabilities,
		
00:58:05 --> 00:58:08
			that's the Fatima. That's the Fatima maybe is
		
00:58:08 --> 00:58:10
			being referred to here because it's just it's
		
00:58:10 --> 00:58:12
			the beginning of something huge. And Khalil
		
00:58:13 --> 00:58:15
			Uwalid, because of him, Islam spread to a
		
00:58:15 --> 00:58:16
			lot of a lot of the world. Now
		
00:58:16 --> 00:58:19
			100 of millions, actually, billions of Muslim
		
00:58:19 --> 00:58:22
			throughout the years have become Muslim because of
		
00:58:22 --> 00:58:23
			Khale Muwalid.
		
00:58:24 --> 00:58:26
			One man that Allah he put in a
		
00:58:26 --> 00:58:28
			certain position in certain place, and it all
		
00:58:28 --> 00:58:30
			started with this. Look. Think of it this
		
00:58:30 --> 00:58:30
			way.
		
00:58:31 --> 00:58:33
			If the only thing that we wanted to
		
00:58:33 --> 00:58:33
			establish
		
00:58:34 --> 00:58:36
			was the prudence of Khaled and Waleed from.
		
00:58:37 --> 00:58:39
			Then that would have been enough of something
		
00:58:39 --> 00:58:42
			to establish for a victory for the Muslims
		
00:58:42 --> 00:58:44
			in the future. And, obviously, hindsight is 2020.
		
00:58:44 --> 00:58:46
			Someone will say everyone's a fortune teller after
		
00:58:46 --> 00:58:47
			the event.
		
00:58:48 --> 00:58:49
			Right? Everyone's a fortune tell, but we have
		
00:58:49 --> 00:58:51
			the hindsight perspective.
		
00:58:51 --> 00:58:53
			We look back and we say, look.
		
00:58:53 --> 00:58:54
			He look what he done.
		
00:58:55 --> 00:58:57
			If it if he wasn't discovered at this
		
00:58:57 --> 00:58:58
			time.
		
00:58:59 --> 00:59:01
			Because when you have talent around you,
		
00:59:02 --> 00:59:04
			it's a the biggest tragedy is not to
		
00:59:04 --> 00:59:05
			discover it.
		
00:59:06 --> 00:59:08
			You might have people around you in your
		
00:59:08 --> 00:59:09
			own day to day life.
		
00:59:09 --> 00:59:11
			This person, that person, and they may be
		
00:59:11 --> 00:59:12
			good at something you don't know.
		
00:59:14 --> 00:59:16
			It took 3 generals to die
		
00:59:17 --> 00:59:19
			for us to know, and it 3 had
		
00:59:19 --> 00:59:19
			to die.
		
00:59:21 --> 00:59:22
			But imagine, Subhanallah, those 3 that had to
		
00:59:22 --> 00:59:25
			die and became martyrs, some of the biggest
		
00:59:25 --> 00:59:27
			and most important martyrs of all of Islam.
		
00:59:27 --> 00:59:29
			They facilitated the way. If you think about
		
00:59:29 --> 00:59:32
			from a cause and effect perspective, for 100
		
00:59:32 --> 00:59:33
			of millions of people become Muslims
		
00:59:34 --> 00:59:36
			because of Khaled and Waleed. It's interesting as
		
00:59:36 --> 00:59:37
			well because, you know, once they they said
		
00:59:37 --> 00:59:38
			in the back where they said, we're either
		
00:59:38 --> 00:59:42
			come today for martyrdom or Yeah. Victory. They
		
00:59:42 --> 00:59:43
			got both because they got the martyrdom and
		
00:59:43 --> 00:59:44
			they got the victory.
		
00:59:44 --> 00:59:46
			Through the free companions, they got the martyrdom,
		
00:59:47 --> 00:59:48
			and they got the victory with Khalil. Al
		
00:59:48 --> 00:59:50
			Muwali. Abs absolutely. And Khad Al Muwali, as
		
00:59:50 --> 00:59:52
			I say, he established a legacy for himself
		
00:59:52 --> 00:59:54
			that now non Muslims we said, what was
		
00:59:54 --> 00:59:56
			that guy's name that that done the the
		
00:59:56 --> 00:59:58
			lecturing? Is it Yale or It was professor
		
00:59:58 --> 00:59:59
			Roy Casagrande.
		
00:59:59 --> 01:00:01
			Yeah. He's done a fantastic lecture
		
01:00:02 --> 01:00:04
			on Khalebn Walid, and he named him as
		
01:00:04 --> 01:00:05
			the 3rd
		
01:00:06 --> 01:00:07
			greatest general of all time.
		
01:00:08 --> 01:00:09
			Unbelievable. After,
		
01:00:09 --> 01:00:13
			Alexander Thuthmosis, and then third third number is,
		
01:00:13 --> 01:00:15
			Khaled. Who who do you have number 1
		
01:00:15 --> 01:00:16
			as what? Alexander,
		
01:00:16 --> 01:00:17
			then Thuthmosis
		
01:00:18 --> 01:00:20
			of Egypt. Oh, okay. Then 3rd he had
		
01:00:20 --> 01:00:22
			Oh, he had them he had them before,
		
01:00:23 --> 01:00:23
			Napoleon?
		
01:00:23 --> 01:00:24
			Yeah. No. Napoleon's
		
01:00:25 --> 01:00:27
			way behind. Oh, really? Yeah.
		
01:00:27 --> 01:00:30
			This is the top 3. Wow. Wow. Wow.
		
01:00:30 --> 01:00:33
			Wow. Wow. Wow. Now that shows you though,
		
01:00:33 --> 01:00:35
			if you you have outsiders saying that this
		
01:00:35 --> 01:00:37
			guy is the best, and that he himself
		
01:00:37 --> 01:00:39
			is saying, no. Actually, I was outsmarted by
		
01:00:39 --> 01:00:40
			the prophet Muhammad alaihi wasalam.
		
01:00:41 --> 01:00:42
			That shows you pound for pound
		
01:00:43 --> 01:00:45
			that that wallahi, this is for me, if
		
01:00:45 --> 01:00:48
			there was if from a secular perspective, you
		
01:00:48 --> 01:00:49
			have to say he was a great general.
		
01:00:50 --> 01:00:51
			And by the way, when I say from
		
01:00:51 --> 01:00:52
			a secular perspective, you have to say he's
		
01:00:52 --> 01:00:54
			a great general. I'm gonna show you at
		
01:00:54 --> 01:00:56
			the end of these slides who did say
		
01:00:56 --> 01:00:58
			that. Because I was going through today the
		
01:00:58 --> 01:01:00
			works of 1 Montgomery Watt.
		
01:01:01 --> 01:01:01
			Okay?
		
01:01:02 --> 01:01:04
			Now he wrote a book. Montgomery Watt is
		
01:01:04 --> 01:01:06
			an orientalist, 1900, and he wrote a book
		
01:01:06 --> 01:01:07
			called the life of the prophet or
		
01:01:08 --> 01:01:09
			something like that. It's a seal of the
		
01:01:09 --> 01:01:10
			prophet Muhammad,
		
01:01:10 --> 01:01:13
			about 250 pages. In the last 5 pages
		
01:01:13 --> 01:01:15
			of the book, he has an assessment.
		
01:01:16 --> 01:01:17
			And in fact, he names it,
		
01:01:18 --> 01:01:20
			is is Mohammed a true prophet? He names
		
01:01:21 --> 01:01:22
			that's the name of this something.
		
01:01:23 --> 01:01:25
			And then I was go I was expecting,
		
01:01:25 --> 01:01:27
			like, the right wing stuff we see nowadays
		
01:01:27 --> 01:01:28
			on Twitter or something to be there in
		
01:01:28 --> 01:01:30
			the book. He was so charitable. I didn't
		
01:01:30 --> 01:01:32
			even know whether he believed in Islam or
		
01:01:32 --> 01:01:33
			not. By the end of it, you can
		
01:01:33 --> 01:01:34
			see he does not believe in Islam,
		
01:01:35 --> 01:01:35
			but
		
01:01:36 --> 01:01:38
			he rubbishes all the arguments against it. If
		
01:01:38 --> 01:01:40
			you kind of read that last 5 pages
		
01:01:40 --> 01:01:41
			of Montgomery Watts,
		
01:01:42 --> 01:01:42
			very interesting.
		
01:01:43 --> 01:01:45
			Completely concessionary compared to what we see today.
		
01:01:45 --> 01:01:47
			That's number 1. Number 2,
		
01:01:50 --> 01:01:51
			Montgomery, what one of the things that he
		
01:01:51 --> 01:01:53
			mentions, just like like William Hart, that a
		
01:01:53 --> 01:01:55
			100 most influential people, of all time, and
		
01:01:55 --> 01:01:58
			he puts Muhammad as number 1. Montgomery also
		
01:01:58 --> 01:02:01
			mentions after mentioning, by the way, after mentioning,
		
01:02:01 --> 01:02:04
			he mentions he is absolutely and we'll read
		
01:02:04 --> 01:02:05
			exactly what he says.
		
01:02:06 --> 01:02:07
			He's shocked at the level
		
01:02:08 --> 01:02:10
			that that prophet has reached when it comes
		
01:02:10 --> 01:02:10
			to military
		
01:02:11 --> 01:02:11
			warfare.
		
01:02:12 --> 01:02:14
			How could he reach this level? He's, gobsmacked
		
01:02:14 --> 01:02:15
			by
		
01:02:15 --> 01:02:17
			dumbfounded by the whole thing.
		
01:02:18 --> 01:02:19
			How could you how could you have a
		
01:02:19 --> 01:02:22
			man, a novice that has reached this level?
		
01:02:23 --> 01:02:25
			Well, we said already, the secularists of today
		
01:02:25 --> 01:02:27
			are saying Khaled is number 3 of all
		
01:02:27 --> 01:02:27
			time.
		
01:02:28 --> 01:02:30
			Is saying, Mohammed is burdened me.
		
01:02:34 --> 01:02:35
			Number 1.
		
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			So
		
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			the secular result of today are saying is
		
01:02:40 --> 01:02:42
			number 3 of all time. They're not even
		
01:02:42 --> 01:02:44
			Muslim. And then is saying, no. No. He's
		
01:02:44 --> 01:02:46
			I could this could not come from
		
01:02:47 --> 01:02:49
			one of the greatest arguments for Islam's truth
		
01:02:49 --> 01:02:51
			is the way Islam spread.
		
01:02:51 --> 01:02:53
			And do you know why they keep I
		
01:02:53 --> 01:02:54
			think the reason why,
		
01:02:54 --> 01:02:56
			you'll find a lot of the right wing
		
01:02:56 --> 01:02:57
			attacks on Islam is to do with the
		
01:02:57 --> 01:02:59
			conquest and expansion. It's because they are most
		
01:02:59 --> 01:03:02
			insecure about that and most unsure about that.
		
01:03:03 --> 01:03:05
			And the and in fact, they know that
		
01:03:05 --> 01:03:06
			that's an evidence.
		
01:03:06 --> 01:03:08
			That's why you, look at you. They have
		
01:03:08 --> 01:03:10
			to try and twist the narrative, a pivot
		
01:03:10 --> 01:03:12
			move to try and say, oh, look. He
		
01:03:12 --> 01:03:14
			was so it was violence. It was violence.
		
01:03:15 --> 01:03:17
			Everyone was doing violence. How comes we were
		
01:03:17 --> 01:03:18
			so successful at it then?
		
01:03:19 --> 01:03:21
			It was successful violence.
		
01:03:23 --> 01:03:25
			There's also a historical nuance which is important.
		
01:03:25 --> 01:03:28
			In the past, whenever battles were won,
		
01:03:28 --> 01:03:31
			the people believed whoever won, god was with
		
01:03:31 --> 01:03:34
			them. And people converted when they saw people
		
01:03:34 --> 01:03:35
			who are victorious. And just to add to
		
01:03:35 --> 01:03:37
			your point about the prophet being so successful,
		
01:03:38 --> 01:03:40
			how old was the prophet when he first
		
01:03:40 --> 01:03:42
			raised the sword in his life?
		
01:03:42 --> 01:03:45
			How old is he? Like, 50 50 50
		
01:03:45 --> 01:03:47
			what? Old? How old is he? 55.
		
01:03:49 --> 01:03:51
			When when was Badr? What year? Was it
		
01:03:51 --> 01:03:52
			3 a h?
		
01:03:52 --> 01:03:53
			So
		
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			it was definitely
		
01:03:55 --> 01:03:57
			after the migration. So what? 56? So we're
		
01:03:57 --> 01:03:59
			talking about between 53 56. Onwards. So that
		
01:03:59 --> 01:04:00
			means
		
01:04:00 --> 01:04:03
			his first battlefield experiences at that age, yet
		
01:04:03 --> 01:04:05
			he was the greatest general in human history.
		
01:04:05 --> 01:04:07
			Unbelievable, isn't it? I love it. Yeah.
		
01:04:07 --> 01:04:09
			That's that is shocking,
		
01:04:10 --> 01:04:10
			you know?
		
01:04:11 --> 01:04:13
			There's something that I think you mentioned because
		
01:04:13 --> 01:04:15
			you mentioned something that when the army of
		
01:04:15 --> 01:04:17
			the Muslims came back to Medina,
		
01:04:18 --> 01:04:18
			the
		
01:04:19 --> 01:04:21
			women of Medina, the children, we labeled
		
01:04:22 --> 01:04:24
			them, those who fled the battle.
		
01:04:24 --> 01:04:26
			Bin Kathir has a different approach. Bin Kathir
		
01:04:26 --> 01:04:27
			mentioned the following.
		
01:04:28 --> 01:04:30
			For bin Kathir, it's not,
		
01:04:30 --> 01:04:33
			it's a bit problematic to say that Al
		
01:04:33 --> 01:04:35
			Madin will take that approach of that army
		
01:04:35 --> 01:04:36
			after hearing the prophet
		
01:04:36 --> 01:04:37
			mentioning
		
01:04:37 --> 01:04:39
			that Haduwadeed was victorious.
		
01:04:40 --> 01:04:41
			So they should
		
01:04:41 --> 01:04:43
			have a bit, tilted
		
01:04:43 --> 01:04:45
			opinion that, it was a victory,
		
01:04:46 --> 01:04:48
			not going against the word of Prophet Sallallahu
		
01:04:48 --> 01:04:48
			Alaihi Wasallam.
		
01:04:49 --> 01:04:51
			So he digs a bit, bin Khidr digs
		
01:04:51 --> 01:04:53
			a deeper and finds that there is actually
		
01:04:53 --> 01:04:55
			an authentic narration that a group of the
		
01:04:55 --> 01:04:56
			Sa'aba, those companions
		
01:04:57 --> 01:04:58
			of the during the battle,
		
01:04:58 --> 01:05:00
			they actually fled.
		
01:05:01 --> 01:05:03
			And they were scared so scared
		
01:05:04 --> 01:05:06
			to the point that they didn't come to
		
01:05:06 --> 01:05:08
			their senses until they reached the sea.
		
01:05:08 --> 01:05:10
			And among that group was Abdullah ibn Umar.
		
01:05:11 --> 01:05:13
			So when they came came back to their
		
01:05:13 --> 01:05:13
			senses,
		
01:05:15 --> 01:05:16
			they were a bit confused. What should we
		
01:05:16 --> 01:05:18
			do now? Then at the end of the
		
01:05:18 --> 01:05:20
			day, we have to go back to Medina.
		
01:05:20 --> 01:05:22
			So they went back to Medina. Mhmm. So
		
01:05:22 --> 01:05:23
			when they came back to Medina,
		
01:05:24 --> 01:05:26
			the children of the women will come out
		
01:05:26 --> 01:05:26
			and say,
		
01:05:28 --> 01:05:28
			So that's
		
01:05:29 --> 01:05:30
			a really that's I don't know. That's a
		
01:05:30 --> 01:05:32
			good thing that in the Sheikh, isn't it?
		
01:05:32 --> 01:05:34
			That's a really good nugget there that we've
		
01:05:35 --> 01:05:36
			we've got. Another good nugget
		
01:05:38 --> 01:05:40
			is if you Yeah. You wanna say something?
		
01:05:40 --> 01:05:43
			I didn't understand that. Oh, yes. This one.
		
01:05:43 --> 01:05:44
			Yeah.
		
01:05:44 --> 01:05:46
			What the Sheikh said is that basically, as
		
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			we mentioned, when they came back Yeah. Some
		
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			of the companions, some of the women in
		
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			the in the Medina were saying you guys
		
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			ran away from the battlefield.
		
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			So
		
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			then,
		
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			the the let's just call it the conventional
		
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			narrative is, the prophet said they didn't run
		
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			away. They're just gonna they're just regrouping to
		
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			come back. The word means running away,
		
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			means to come back. Okay. So he he
		
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			changed the wording.
		
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			What what
		
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			the Sheikh was saying in said is that
		
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			actually there was a group of them who
		
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			genuinely ran away.
		
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			Oh. And that they are the ones who
		
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			are being, abused by the the companions in
		
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			Medina.
		
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			So that so because the question would be,
		
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			why is it that they are being abused
		
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			by
		
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			in this way? So even Khati was saying
		
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			it makes sense that some of them, and
		
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			he gave some examples of certain companions that
		
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			did so, and they were running so fast
		
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			and hard. As I'm sure you're aware and,
		
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			that they they were so, like, you know,
		
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			that they just keep running to the sea,
		
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			you know.
		
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			So, that was something. Do you wanna say
		
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			something? Yeah.
		
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			This,
		
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			expedition also
		
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			show a wisdom behind it. The prophet sallallahu
		
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			alaihi wa sallam is in his
		
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			lost of his age,
		
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			and then he is
		
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			doing some type of experiment Yeah. To send
		
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			the Sahaba far away Yeah. And to
		
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			give them feel that they can do whatever
		
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			they That's a that's a really good point.
		
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			Yeah. Because because the prophet salallahu alaihi wasalam
		
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			Yeah. Send them without he participating,
		
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			and then the Sahaba is having an experiment
		
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			with the Romans
		
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			and So he's teaching them how to be
		
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			independent? Yeah. Yeah. And then later on, that
		
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			mission is expanding because the prophet SAW Salam
		
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			is going You've been you've been on fire
		
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			today. What did what did you drink before
		
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			you came in it?
		
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			And it's whatever cover you're having, I need
		
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			to have the same one. That's Jesus. Excellent.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			That's a really good point. That is really
		
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			good point. I was gonna say one thing
		
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			I was reading. This is from Montgomery Watt.
		
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			Yeah. So I was reading this is really
		
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			powerful. This come from orientalist.
		
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			Yes? A 19th century English orientalist. He says
		
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			the following.
		
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			The more one reflects on the history of
		
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			Muhammad's,
		
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			slide 13, by the way. Yeah? The more
		
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			one reflects on the history of Muhammad,
		
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			and of early Islam.
		
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			The more one is amazed at the vastness
		
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			of his achievement.
		
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			Circumstances
		
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			presented,
		
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			him with an opportunity
		
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			such
		
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			as few men have had,
		
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			but the man was fully matched with the
		
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			hour.
		
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			Had it not been for his gifts
		
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			as a
		
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			seer statesman
		
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			and administrator,
		
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			and behind these, his trust in God and
		
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			firm belief that God had sent him, a
		
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			notable chapter in the history of mankind would
		
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			have remained unwritten.
		
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			This is a orientalist.
		
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			Yeah. Sometimes these orientalists come up with some
		
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			of the most powerful things about the prophet
		
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			Muhammad.
		
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			He's saying that he dealt with every situation
		
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			in a manner that was befitting.
		
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			And he he has to acknowledge. This is
		
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			a guy who's a non Muslim, who spent
		
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			his whole life studying the prophet Mohammed in
		
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			Islam.
		
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			He has to acknowledge.
		
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			He's He's come to the level where he
		
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			has to acknowledge
		
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			the achievements are undeniable.
		
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			Nowadays, you have these propagandists that just saying
		
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			smear words and your profit was this and
		
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			your this and that and morality and stuff.
		
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			He refused this, by the way. I've put
		
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			the slide if you wanna see. He he
		
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			says that the re all the moral arguments
		
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			you have
		
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			are based on our standards, morality of our
		
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			day.
		
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			His people didn't see it like that, and
		
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			it wasn't seen like that. What this is
		
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			Montgomery what?
		
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			Which is why it's quite important to see
		
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			the works of the orientalists.
		
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			Because already,
		
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			when we say orientalists, we think, oh, we
		
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			we have a preconceived
		
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			prejudgment of them. We say, certainly, they're they're
		
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			gonna say something negative. But you could be
		
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			surprised.
		
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			Some of these orientates will come from a
		
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			non Muslim perspective.
		
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			They're able to see the prophet objectively
		
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			in their understanding of objectivity,
		
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			and they say stuff like this.
		
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			Where's that text? Can you put in the
		
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			blue? It's all in it's all in the
		
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			slides. It's on the slides? Yeah. Of course.
		
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			Another thing which is on the slides, which
		
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			I think you'll need even more than the
		
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			previous slide, and everyone here will be needing
		
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			as well, is this particular thing. Because actually,
		
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			Moza was one of the events that was
		
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			scribed
		
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			and penned
		
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			by the historians
		
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			of Rome.
		
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			And there is one particular historian called Theophanes,
		
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			who's written a book
		
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			called The Chronicles of Theophanes.
		
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			And this book, The Chronicles of Theophanes,
		
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			is the book which is used by Abu
		
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			Zakari and others in the Forbidden Prophecies book
		
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			to prove
		
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			that the Romans had defeated the Persians in
		
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			3 to 9 years, the prophecy that's mentioned
		
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			in the Quran.
		
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			In the same book,
		
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			Theophanese mentions,
		
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			and I've written all this. He he bay
		
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			he basically mentions this thing. Now the mistake
		
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			Theophanese
		
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			makes is that he thinks prophet Muhammad has
		
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			died at this stage, because he doesn't understand.
		
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			He thinks Abu Bakr is the one who
		
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			sent these guys, but he mentions the 3
		
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			the same story that you'll find in the
		
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			Hadith
		
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			of the 3 generals and so on, you'll
		
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			find in the Roman texts.
		
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			With the same areas and the same fighting
		
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			power, and that they were outmatched and all
		
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			the kind of because someone will say, well,
		
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			I don't believe in all this Islamic stuff.
		
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			Yeah. You know, I don't believe in your
		
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			sources.
		
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			Why isn't it so convenient then that we're
		
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			able to find other sources that are confirming
		
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			and triangulating the same event?
		
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			We don't believe that the Muslims actually had
		
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			a fight with the Romans. Okay. Well, let's
		
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			take a look at what the Romans themselves
		
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			say about the matter.
		
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			Because they even mentioned.
		
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			They even mentioned the word,
		
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			and he refers to it as.
		
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			You'll see it in the slides. I can't
		
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			read the whole thing. But he mentioned that
		
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			there were 3 generals, all of them died.
		
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			This which, by the way, this goes beyond.
		
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			This whole thing goes beyond. This idea
		
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			that you have a story in Islamic history,
		
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			yeah, which is corroborated by a completely different
		
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			source.
		
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			And that geographically, it happened far away from
		
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			the Islamic,
		
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			area
		
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			shows you that whatever
		
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			historical
		
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			preservation method that existed for Islam
		
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			has now been corroborated by outside of Islam.
		
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			So which means that you know those individuals
		
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			that attack the Hadith,
		
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			whether it's the Hadith reject us from within
		
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			the so called Islamic circle, which actually not.
		
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			Or they're the ones who are
		
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			who who are like the the new age
		
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			pop
		
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			historian
		
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			revisionist.
		
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			And he wants to make a name for
		
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			himself in academia because he couldn't make it
		
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			another field, so he comes to Islam because
		
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			he said he believes it's a niche market,
		
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			and he can make some money out of
		
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			it, and feed his family. So he can
		
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			go do some wine tasting in southern France
		
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			and get slapped in the face,
		
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			academically or intellectually.
		
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			Those individuals,
		
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			okay, where they will attack the Hadith and
		
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			say, well, it's completely unreliable and so on.
		
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			Blah blah blah. If it's so unreliable,
		
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			why is it being corroborated by other sources?
		
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			And if this is the level of corroboration
		
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			from a source that is completely independent,
		
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			which by the way is in lieu
		
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			of it.
		
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			What do you wanna say about that now?
		
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			Oh, about the Hadith?
		
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			Oh, about this? Oh, about that? The Hadith
		
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			are it's not worth the paper that it's
		
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			written on. It's not even written on paper,
		
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			therefore. It's a Chinese whispers. It's whatever. But
		
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			the hadith is corroborating everything you're Roman your
		
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			white man is saying.
		
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			But when the white man says it, no.
		
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			No. Theofinist said it.
		
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			And has has.
		
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			Now the truth has become you only want
		
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			the white man to write history, don't you?
		
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			That's the real truth, isn't it? That's why
		
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			you've rubbished African history and, Latin American history
		
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			and this and that. Because the white man
		
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			is the only one with the authority
		
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			to write down history. You've got a colonial
		
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			reasoning.
		
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			But what happens when the white man writes
		
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			the same thing down?
		
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			Then you realize that our guys are not
		
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			as illiterate as you think the thought they
		
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			were. Race, realists,
		
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			theories, and this and that. Get the *
		
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			out of here, mate.
		
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			He's narrating the story in the same way
		
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			as we are hearing
		
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			in the Hadith.
		
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			And this book, by the way, I looked
		
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			at it. You can get it now. It's
		
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			it's, 800 page book. The Chronicles of Theophanies.
		
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			And many of there's many
		
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			scattered references to Islam
		
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			and Muslims in that book.
		
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			With that, we will conclude.
		
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			I hope you've had a good time. We
		
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			have here in the office. Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi
		
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			Wa Rahkass.