Atheistic vs Religious Justice – LSE University of London

Mohammed Hijab

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What's up, guys?

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interactive.

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The theme of today's topic, how can justice be objectively actualized? In that context, it cannot be objectively actualized let me give you a crude example the child dies, small boy dies in Africa, or something like this as someone who's a pure liberal has no faith

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clearly is a bad thing.

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It's not good. But where has justice been actualized You know, there are people that live to the age of 40 5060, this young boy has died.

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Where has justice been actualized has not been actualized. Because really, the physical realm around us is all we see is all we get.

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So from that perspective, it ends up that the boy dies, you have to live with it, it's actually a rearrangement of atoms. If you look at all naturalism, it has no spiritual objective value.

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That's why you'll find you could say religion fills in the gap for justice, any kind of religion. I'm not saying it's not particularly whatever religious faith tradition attempts to come with a meta narrative which fills in the gaps for these problems. So Christianity, obviously in Islam, Judaism, Islam, but let's go to days and have concepts of the afterlife of the afterlife recommend their judgment.

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Why? Because it's necessary, from an aside perspective.

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What happens in this world

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is inextricably connected with what happens if you're offered Same thing with Christianity, there is a day of judgment, we believe in the Day of Judgment. The Day of Judgment is an incredibly important concept in the Islamic tradition. Why? Because that boy that has died, I very young age,

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when that boy dies, is it the end of the story that flow for the Muslim? After the Christian, it's not the end of the story, even for the sake of Hindu, because the book could be reincarnated into, you know, snakes will be in lion, human, whatever it could be. Yeah.

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But that, you know, or it could be the fact, from our perspective, Christian perspective, that he goes to all mercy perspective that he is meshed back into God and becomes part of God, of the Jewish perspective that he's once again, in the company of God, in a way which I don't have this concept of heaven, per se, in Judaism, maybe.

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But yeah, so everyone has some kind of solution. But we go back to our problem, our initial problem,

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how do you prove your concepts? How do you know that what you're saying is true?

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That's why there's an important thing which Islamic tradition comes with, which I would say is, I wouldn't say it's completely unique. But it's something which is,

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it is a specific to the cell division.

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point one.

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We believe that God Himself is or just Of course, but that his commandments, so his scripture, the Quran, the sooner it can be shown to be true, because all human beings have an urge a craving for some kind of rational evidence base.

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So we have 6236, eight in the Quran, which are translators versus an alien in Arabic. Really, what it is, is really an evidence.

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In other words,

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the Islamic tradition doesn't say just believe it doesn't say that. It says, first of all, be exposed to the evidences of Islam.

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Okay, understand the theories of Islam. And if you are convinced, then the problems of justice and problems of evil, all of those will be resolved. So from our perspective, is not the fact that we just wanted to Muslim family

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perspective and that we just follow what our forefathers follow.

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What we are provided with from a scientist perspective is evidence what kind of evidence

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different kinds of evidence so put on challenges human beings to find contradictions. For example, the Quran itself has an inevitability challenge, so strive to do something like it the Quran

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It makes predictions of the future which couldn't have been known, because obviously

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could not have known find something of the future. The Quran

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is, for in this scope, the Arabic language or the usage of advertisement or that type of perspective or something which couldn't have been realized. The problem I have is my son and his character itself is seen as an exemplar character. The narrative the Islamic narrative itself makes perfect sense. My perspective, the idea of one door exists on a theism

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When did you begin has been exposed and I'm obviously not to go into detail about the evidences, but what do you been exposed to the evidences.

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Now they have an epistemological base. This is how we conceptualize, when you have an epistemological base, you have reason to believe, when you have reason to believe the concept makes sense, we have reason to understand the depth of judgment actually is the day of judgment. However, it makes actually a true place to exist to hell, there's actually two questions from that angle, we have resolution to the problem of evil that human beings have. And to be fair, I think Christians would say something similar. Maybe not with the same kind of argumentation. But really, this is where we start. So from an Islamic perspective,

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the first point I would say,

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is that Islam is a religion,

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whereby you have one God, that one God is the one who created the universe, he sustains the universe.

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And he doesn't allow justice to prevail. It's impossible. It's impossible for for God to allow justice to put up so evils for justice, definitely.

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Correct.

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Did you see me?

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Alright, so you see what I mean. So it's impossible for justice not to prevail with God in the picture. At this one, God has no profits. And all of the profits came with the same exact message, which is to believe in one God, and to worship in that one God, and then to come and do things which amounted to justice. That's why we have versus was specified, how we should be just to other people, like, for example, sort of like chapter five, verse eight,

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says, Yeah, you're gonna have an akuna COVID.

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He said, Oh, you believe? Yeah, be Kunal cola may be a pride in justice, witnessing truth, witnessing basically a portion of the right kind of God apportioning the rights of people to the right places.

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Well, he demanded

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at that time.

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So don't let the energy of those people, any person, whoever is people that don't want you to, to be approached with justice stop you from being justice and be just, and that is closer to being piled higher.

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And another person, so to set up before the crisis, who knows

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what I should

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be just, okay. Even if it's against yourself or against your parents,

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and justice for us from an Islamic perspective, despite what the immediate market takes you, people really is something which is blind, it could be to Muslims to non Muslims. That's why

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it says in the same chapter, chapter five, the way the

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faculty said, If you judge between the Christians and the Jews, or other believers, then judge with fairness and justice. Right. And very often, there's a verse in the live feed, that certainly God likes dogs or just so but what is justice? Fisher justice, generally speaking, is the Islamic version of justice, just like justice from a Christian perspective, we just won't be justice, according to Scripture, justice, According to Hindu this will be just justice according to the Bhagavad Gita, and

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he'll correct me

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the plethora of different ideas. And everyone comes with almost, I mean, it could be an atheist, atheist, you could be

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you can be, you know, a policy. So

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anyways,

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the point is justice, usually I'll say generalizes is defined by the scriptures of specific faith. That is, justice. So obviously justice was just put into a pragmatic just for the Christian

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is justice according to Jesus, right. That's how it is.

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It's more complicated.

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All right.

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Not just because

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they just want to attack me.

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Just because I'm so cool.

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Let's wrap up.

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And let's say that the reality is that usually so what we're trying to establish first and foremost is an epistemological base. If we believe that we can attain an epistemological base, then justice or concepts of justice makes sense. So from our perspective as Muslims, we try to offer evidence as fully as possible. And then justice will our concepts of justice will be more than subjective

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okay.