Mohammed Hannini – Studies in the Seerah of the Prophet Muhammad #9
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We are the people who have been talking
last time, and we are talking about the
split phase of the DAO.
So just to remind you because we've been
out for a couple of weeks.
But also, I've seen the DAO issue. The
issue that received Hawaii.
He,
you know, he he ordered his wife. He
called his, comes in.
And,
in turn,
called the people that, you know, reached out
to the people he knew because he was
somebody that Quresh liked. The people like to
be with him because of his knowledge.
Was actually
a,
Nasser, somebody who knew
the Nasser, the lineage of the ops,
and after actually his daughter also Aisha,
inherited that knowledge as well for him. Probably
a lot of. Right?
So people like to sit with him and,
you know, and he the people whom he
trusted, like, already been Jawa, like,
like, people of this kind of of the
Sahaba would actually became Muslims
due to the efforts of.
But the call at up to this point
was not really a secret.
The people knew that the Rasool was,
you know,
calling for a gain. As a matter of
fact,
you know,
there are reports that the,
you know, and,
Khadija and Ali, they were praying next to
the cow.
And the people were saying,
what what are these people doing? They're saying,
this is Mohammed, alaihis salam.
You know, he's, you know, he's,
you know, calling for his new name.
But he did not engage in the society.
He did not talk to the people as
en masse.
He did not even address the the society's
issues, the problems, the belief system, the value
system,
the social hierarchy. Whatever existed,
he did not address it. All he was
talking you know, he was he was reciting
aya, you know, that were related to the
belief knowledge
of submission to him, worshiping him, and still
the call was again individualistic
for the individuals that.
Until as we mentioned, Allah
and comply
with what you're commanded. That's what the of
it.
And the other of it is that, you
know, separate
between the and the.
And if you notice the second,
you know, when you say the the
the rock,
had, you know,
the, it means that now the cracker
started splitting.
The second meaning is much more
confrontational,
much more powerful than the first meaning. The
first meaning is comply with what you commanded.
So you go ahead and give the down.
But the second meaning, the second of the,
you are talking about separating between and
this is the the that
was chosen by.
And, actually, before this was revealed,
Allah
had revealed the stories of previous prophets.
He revealed the story of Musa Alaihi Salam
in the same
He say he said the same about the
about Musa Alaihi Salam, about the other prophets,
the and how Allah
saved the prophet Musa Alaihi
Salam, and how he punished the people who,
you know,
in Musa's way, including Sauron, the, you know,
the the the embodiment of evil, if you
wish, of his time or maybe old times.
But so
that was in preparation, telling the prophet
you are going to encounter problems. You are
going to run into
confidence.
And
yet, we will save you. We will provide
you the tree. We will give you the
support like we did
with Musa alayhi salam, like we did with
other prophets.
And if you remember, even when,
Rasool Sallal met with Warapah, the cousin of
Khadija, Warapah
bin Nofan, and Warapah told him that, you
know, I wish I were young.
You know, I wish I were young,
because when people kick you out, when people
get you out of your land.
So, yeah, Rasool Sallalahu Alaihi wa Salam said,
oh,
Are they going to get me out of
my land? He found it strange. Why would
they?
You know? He said nobody came with with
the message that you came with without fear
his his people confronting him, without, you know,
in a muscle developing. Because,
again,
it's not like Abu Nufail is Dawa. It's
not like Abu Nufail's
excuse me,
or. These people,
one of them was on the dean of
Ibrahim alaihi salam. The other one was also
was a Christian,
on the without the trinity, meaning as well.
But that was it. They they were you
know, they they believed in what they believed
in, and they let people be. They and
everybody knew that they believed in something different,
and nobody really cared.
So and that's why the initial reaction to
to Rasool
from Quraysh was to also say, okay. Maybe
he's one of the like these people.
Except that,
actually, it became much more than that where
even enamisities
developed. It got to the point where they
wanted to assassinate the Rasool Salam.
They before that, they started, and we'll talk
about the how the
reacted to the mission of
and what what attempts they they had to
stop.
Next
session.
But,
it suffice to say that, you know, because
of the way that the Rasulullah,
approached the Daul and because the way the
Quraish the arrogance of Quraish
Mhmm. Because their rejection of Islam was not
based on I don't believe it.
It's not that I'm not convinced.
And
they denied it. They rejected it. They denied
its truthfulness.
But internally,
they had
the certainty
that this is the truth.
So why did they why did they rejected?
Doing injustice to themselves and to others because
they're preventing even others from embracing Islam, not
just themselves,
but also
out of
arrogance. You know? And we mentioned before that
the dawah of Islam,
the way that presents,
you know, the the the the humility and
the submission to Allah
has to be there, meaning that without sincerity,
the person will hear the message of Islam
and still,
you know, it will not make an impact.
You have to humble yourself
for the for to to accept the the
message of Islam.
And humble yourself not to anybody, but to
the creator of the guy. So if you
see it, it's a hack. It's a truth.
Submit to it. Say, yes. It is true.
You know? So
now the the
what I should note is that the people
are starting entering into Islam
in
in in number because they reached actually up
to to that point. There is about 40
people. Some reports that it says says 36,
around 40 people. And, actually,
I believe
in the sealed vector, he actually counts the
the names. He mentions the names of who
who became a Muslim
between men, women,
young men,
and,
they they know what what for him.
Now yes? Was it better of this? I'm
sorry? Was it better of that?
And the
the the his it's it's
a beautiful, really,
book, and it's it's supporting Arabic, which is
available. You can also download it online. It's
it's PDF.
So,
now we just go back to even this
happen. We mentioned that even this happen is
the
backbone of the CRM. I mean, there's nobody
really knew more than the the CRM like
that even this.
What they call
it, the knowledge of the or the the
the life story of Rasool Allah So what
did he say?
He said, when the prophet
started calling people to Islam,
you know, they and obeying what Allah commanded
them. These people did not go away from
them, did not abandon them, did not there
was no friction between them.
Them.
He didn't they did not even, you know,
bother with him.
Until
until he started critiquing, criticizing
their gods,
criticizing their belief system,
criticizing the way even they believe. And we'll
we'll give some examples inshallah.
Not only criticizing, showing the faults in them,
showing the deficiencies in their belief. You
know?
When
the
Quraish
saw, the tribe saw,
the other Rasool
is not trying to please them.
Okay. He's he's taking as the expression goes,
he's taking no hostages. He's not trying to
please them. He's not trying to make differences.
He's not trying to no. He's just full
force with his, critiquing, criticizing their gods, criticizing
your religion, criticizing the forefathers,
the way they believe, etcetera, all of this.
And, you know, and and Abu Bali is
not giving you up as if, you know
then some people from to
Abu Bali.
And.
You know,
his name was.
All of these people are the the leadership
the
the of Croatia. I mean, this is the
the of
Croatia.
They went to.
And they said,
That
your nephew
cursed our gods,
unfolded our religion.
And
called our our thinking, our comprehension, our understanding
as silly. You know?
And said that our forefathers arms astray.
Either you either stop them
or let us deal with them because they
are while he was protecting him, but he
has she was protecting him. So he said
either you take take care of him, you
know, you stop him or let us take
care of him.
So because you are you are actually you
disagree with them just like you, just like
us. You you believe in the same belief
like us.
So let us, you know
so he said something gentle to them, you
know, and set them off. Okay.
So let's take some of the the,
and some of the things that that,
started actually criticizing
the way of life, of Raish. The foundations,
the fundamentals that Raish
and the Arabs, the alps, the alwarshipper,
the entire mess
way of life was resting on.
One of them, the question because if you
remember, they were worshiped to idols. They did
not they believed in God. They believed in
Allah,
as one creator, but they they were submit
they were worshiping the idols.
Why? Rationally,
to justify,
you know, that that they are worshiping the
idols. And they said, basically, is that
we only worship them to get us closer
to all. So these are because they're not
remember, these idols were the idols that were
made after righteous people
in the past.
So some good people. And so they said,
now,
you know, we start worshiping them
because, again, these are people who were righteous.
They were good people. They will get us
close after Allah
So and they started worshiping.
But these what they're worshiping
is not really even the the righteous people.
They're worshiping the idols. As
said, we would milk the idol out of,
dates, and when we got hungry, we ate
it.
So if you that's that's what they were
worshiping. So Allah
says,
it is gods that you worship. Do they
have feet that they walk with?
Or do they have hands that they strike
with?
Do they have eyes that they see with?
Or do they have ears that they listen
to? You
know?
Then call all your partners. Call all your
supporters. You know?
Plot against me.
And do not wait. You just just go
for it whenever you can, you and your
gods and your idols, etcetera. And you look
at the the the
confrontations. So you're telling them your gods are
dumb.
Your gods are blind. Your gods can't walk.
Your gods can't hear. Your gods can't see.
You can't hear. You know, do anything.
So go ahead. Put them on and then
come attack me. You know? The blood against
me. Stop me.
That's the level of confrontation.
Even amongst the the
the, some of the practices that they were
done
they were doing
was, as you know, the the arms lived
in very tough time, you know, in terms
of
substance, in terms of prison. And they did
not there were no plants no plants like
in Mecca.
It's all dependent on trade, etcetera.
And these were tribes, warring tribes, so they're
always wanted support, and they're always
losing people. So,
they had the the practice of,
burying the the
young girls alive.
You know? So, basically, killing their children.
And,
that that was a practice and that was
acceptable.
So Allah came to this social practice, if
you wanna call it social practice. This practice
way and he said,
And if the,
infant who's buried alive is asked, what harm
did she do commit
for her to be killed? You know? Again,
challenging some of their practices.
And he refused
to compromise with them. He refused to,
you know, to to be soft with them
on,
at the expense of the deal. You know?
And it it it it only got to
this point after they rejected the message. So
this is not the the the norm, if
you wish. This was the reaction
to their their position. So for example,
Allah
says it was sort of noon.
Noon, and just for the sake of time,
I'll just say the English.
By the pen and what they what they
inscribe,
you are not Muhammad
by the favor of your lord and madman
because they said that he and that was
I what we will what we'll talk about
next week about the campaign that they did
against
calling him names, spreading rumors about him. He
is crazy. He is this. He is that.
So all of that is saying, no.
You know what they that's something that they
knew themselves.
And indeed, for you is a reward uninterrupted.
And indeed, you are of great moral character.
So you will see and they will see
which of you is the afflicted
by a a devil.
Indeed,
your lord is most knowing of who of
who has gone astray
from, from his way, and he is most
knowing of the rightly guided.
Then do not obey the deniers.
They wish that you would soften your position
so they would soften theirs
toward you. And here, by the way, the
word is actually the the soften does not
do the the justice to the word,
is from them. You know, them is like
the something greasy,
something moist so that becomes smooth.
You know, you smooth in the relationship. So
you give in a little bit, they give
in a little bit, etcetera. That is something
that's in Allah's plan has said they wish
what to.
They wish you they could
compromise you would compromise so that they would
compromise as well.
And then
even the one who was saying spreading these
things about Rasool was not safe. And do
not,
obey every worthless,
habitual swear.
You know, talking about a specific person.
Scorer, going about with malicious and gossip.
A preventer of good, transgressing,
and sinful.
Cruel, moreover, and and in a a illegitimate,
pretender
because he is a possessor of wealth and
children.
We, when our verses are are sounded to
him, he says legends of the former people,
he would we will brand him upon the
snout.
So
and he Allah
did not just say that they wish they
could compromise defending
and they wish they could compromise, but even
talking about the person who was spreading this
and,
exposing him.
They denied the. They said there's no.
Right? There's no.
I'm gonna come back as a really newly.
We're gonna come back again.
So almost after that, he says,
for example,
they say, who will bring us back?
You know, that the one who created you
in the 1st place,
will bring you back. Al Hakim reported,
and and as well as others from Abdullah
and Abbas
that,
one of the leaders of Quraish, came to
Rasul said said, you know, Mohammed.
You
know, he took he had with him an
old bone.
He crushed it.
You know? And he said, will you, God,
bring this back after this?
You know?
So Rasulullah,
what did he say? He said, no. Yes.
You Rasool
Allah will,
resurrect
it. Then he will take away your life.
Then he will bring you back to life.
Then he will enter your jahann.
That was the answer
to him because he's not asking.
He's not asking. He's ridiculing.
You know? So he gave him the answer
he deserved.
And then after that, the end of sort
he has seen
was
revealed.
And he gave us an example,
you know, and he forgot his old creation.
You know?
Who's gonna bring this old bones back to
Let's say the one who is who created
in the first place will bring it back
to life. But you see the confrontation.
You see the confrontation between Rasoul sallallahu alaihi
wa sallam and the people who are for
not
just simply to teach him. Yes. Because he
already taught them. There there are,
actually, maybe next time, I'll I'll I'll just
list the surahs that were revealed.
Many, many surahs had already been revealed already
in the first three years.
You know, when we talk about the secret
period or the non public period, just in
about 3 years, your your many were revealed
during that time explaining
the the aid of Islam,
giving them the proofs for the truthfulness of
Muhammad So this is not coming from a
vacuum. This is this is a a step
in in the sequence of events.
I'll I'll bring the list of the Surah.
And when you read the Surah, you see
that they
cover the wide range and still
the style itself of the the Quran, the
style itself of the Dua. Again,
if you have arrogance, he will not be
able to deal with it. If you do
not accept it, if you are not,
sincere with yourself, but will Allah subhanahu wa
ta'ala, he will not accept it. It's a
confrontational
method that Allah
used.
So even the way they believed,
they said
we found our forefathers following
a path away, and we are going to
be guided following them.
In one area, how about if your forefathers
did not have any minds?
How about if your forefathers in another area?
How about if your forefathers are in hellfire?
You know? Because the criteria is wrong.
The way of thinking is wrong. Just because
somebody is a Muslim, I'm going to be
interested. So just because somebody I I don't
know what how do you know this is
the the right way?
You know?
So that the way of belief of imitation
just because your forefathers
you know? And that's why they kept on
criticizing or complaining
about the Rasool Salam here that killed our
forefathers.
Yeah. Because we follow them. So he he
ridiculed them.
So they found that big.
And, of course,
he kept on challenging him. You know? I
mean,
I mean, or I guess at about the
same point.
You know? And if they just said to
them, follow what Allah has revealed.
They said, no. We will follow what we
found. Our forefathers followed him. So the question
becomes, how will Sheikh, and how about if
Sheikh invites them to the punishment of her
father?
You know?
You find that the challenge from, you know,
about about, I mean, about their gods again,
when when they worship versus Allah.
So you find,
when Allah says, for example,
he created look at the power of almost
he created the heavens without that you that
are visible to you.
In
the mountains too so that the earth stays
stable.
And
he
created in it from all kinds of living
organisms.
And we we sent down from the sky
water. So we we move from it, from
this water, you know, all kinds of plants.
This is the creation of
Allah. So show me what the others created.
Allah created the heavens without
brought the the water,
the plants, you know, the animals, etcetera, and
that's this is the creation of Allah. Show
me the ones that you worship, the ones
that you follow, what did they create other
than
Rather, those people who are unjust
are clearly in a clear,
state of,
misguidance.
It got to the point
where, you know, I look at and and
in the the the confrontation.
In the Quran,
like,
how are you doing? You and what you
worship aside from Allah are the fuel of
hellfire,
and you will be you'll
be you will go to it.
Them and what they worship,
meaning them and their gods, all the idols
as well as these,
they are
is talking about people who have
rejected the out of arrogance, but look at
the confrontation.
Look at the the, you know, the the
level of
noncompromise if you wish
even, you know, the toughness in the way
that of speaking.
Their way of thinking, their way of getting
their their beliefs, Not only did he criticize
them following their forefathers,
but he criticizing them not building their their
their iman on in whatever they believe in
on solid foundation
and on conjecture.
So Allah says that those who do not
believe in the,
they call the angels. They say the angels
are what? Are females.
Women of the,
they have no knowledge.
Where did how can you get it? The
the angels are from the from the unsensed,
something beyond your senses.
Where did you get that they are males
or females? Where did you get any description
about them? You these are the.
They have no book.
They have no book. They have no heavenly
book. They have nothing no message that was
sent to them to tell them the angels
are males or females.
So they are saying, are all of us.
They have no knowledge in with this.
They only follow conjecture.
And one has nothing to do cannot do
anything with certainty, cannot compete with certainty. What
is certainty that was false of the message
of Muhammad
You know? Because he gave them the deal,
and they could not you know, they gave
them the evidence, and they could not refute
it.
So in one of their attempts,
you know, to to,
the
haditha support about and and, we are the
and
the said that Hassan is with the the
guy.
Said that his Hassan is ordered.
Said that came to to, you know,
or said the report that Oraish came what
is the approach mean? The leadership Oraish came
to.
They said,
do
do you see Ahmed? They're
calling.
Do you see Ahmed?
He's harming us,
you know, in in our settings where they
used to sit around the Kaaba.
And in our Masjid,
stop them from talking about us. Stop them
from talking about.
So Abu Bala said, yeah.
So Rasool
came. You know, he said, my nephew,
you know, my your your cousins
claim that you are harming them in there
on where they sit because that's where he
used to go in town.
He used to there are the the the
nadi, the the clubs or the quote, the
the sitting area, they used to sit around
the town. Each
tribe, each,
group of people had their own
spot. So he used to go call them
to Islam by going where they were. And
when he used to show the you know,
to pray, he used to go pray near
the Kaaba, you know, again for them to
see and how to pray.
So they're saying that, you know,
you know, so stop doing this. I will
tell him,
stop doing this. So,
you know, looked up
Lahab, you know, with
and and
in in another,
you know,
in another reporter Rasool Salam looked around
and then said,
do
you see the sun?
You
see the sun?
They said yes.
I cannot do anything with what you're asking
just like you're unable to give me,
any fire fault.
Meaning, you can't reach the sun,
I'm not going to change my condition.
He's going to stick to what he was
saying.
Okay. So, of course, soft for for his
nephew. He said
fuck. My my
nephew never lied to us. Meaning, he's gonna
stick to what he's saying. He's not gonna
change his mind. You know,
You know, he said,
In another
report, one day, he was sitting also in
one of the those sitting areas for Quraish.
When the
sitting in the Masjid Masjid miss it how
in in the in the around the car.
You know? So he said,
I why why don't I go
to to have my guys or set up?
I'll go and make him some offers.
Maybe he'll he'll take some of it. You
know?
But I don't think
that, you know,
we bid them whichever one he chooses.
And then he will stop.
Now that happened when as Hamza became Muslim.
As I said, this became because Hamza became
Muslim. Mohammed Al Khabab became Muslim. These are
now
well known people.
When Hamza became a Muslim, it is not
a, it's a small event. It's not like,
you know, somebody who like, Khabab al Arab
becoming a Muslim as an example. You know,
somebody who had no lineage, no no backing,
but this is Hamza
So
they our to their own.
They said, you have nothing. Now he's talking
nicely to him. He said, my nephew.
You are you know where your position almost
in terms of what your position in the
tribe. You are because he's from the best
of,
Polish.
And you are a a you have a
a great place in in lineage, in Nasser.
This is something that's big on the amongst
Arabs.
And you brought your people.
You
brought something that is tremendous with your people.
You divided the people.
Okay. Why? All of them were on and
all of them were families and tribes. And
and now you come and you say,
no. The all of this does not matter.
The Muslims are different. And and
are going to be equal to Omar
and equal to any any of this leadership.
You know, you are changing things. You are
dividing our,
you're dividing us.
Okay.
When you're you're ridicule their their thinking.
Why?
And you formed your their gods were and
their religion.
You know? So first,
So listen to me, and I'm going to
be make some offers for you.
You know? Maybe you'll accept some of them.
And now he's calling Abu Walid, not qualified
by his name. Abu Walid, you know, normally,
when you say that, it's a sign of
respect when you know his name Abu something.
You know?
This is a respect
amongst Arabs. So he said, you know,
go ahead, Abu. I'm I'm listening.
So he started.
He said,
It's really what what you're you're this religion
you're coming with, what you're bringing.
You want money.
We will collect money for you. You know?
And you will be the richest amongst
us
until you become the wealthiest of all of
us.
And if you want to be status and
and, you know, leadership, you want to be
the the the man amongst us, the one
that we look up to or, you know,
or the one we we follow,
you know, so would not. We make it.
I will make you our master. We make
you our our leader.
To the point where we will not make
a decision without you.
We put that freedom with
even if you want to become the king,
we'll make you the king.
So now, by the way, remember, we talked
about the the ruling system
was not actually a,
it was quote unquote the the moral. You
have influential people
and used to you know,
the people that we just said let's list
it. You know,
these these people used to gather. Abu Safian,
these people used to gather and decide
in consultation
how to run the affairs of Christ. That's
how the decision was made. He said, we're
going to scrap all of that. We're going
to make it a kingship for you. You
you want to be a king? You want
to be
the king, we'll make you the king.
And if what you what this thing that
you're seeing so he's not telling him you're
lying.
He said that you're seeing,
you know,
you know, do you see something? What you
what you're seeing referring to the to Jibril
alaihi Salam. This what what you are seeing,
is,
you know,
that you cannot prevent it. You cannot stop
it. You know, we'll get doctors for you.
That we will we will spend
our money until you become cured from it.
So maybe maybe he's saying maybe you're possessed
so that we will we will
basically
hear you from that. So and then also
is listening. At the end
of
our. He said,
Are you done?
He said, yes.
He said, then listen for me. Now it's
the turn of.
So he said,
So he started by, in the name of
Allah, the merciful, the compassion, Hamid,
revelation from the
most merciful, the most compassion.
A
book, though, which it's ayaat verses are detailed.
For other Alabih and Arab Quran
appear before people who have knowledge,
It's giving good news, good tidings. And
and
most of them turned away, they do not
hear.
And then he continued with the aya. You
know, actually from the aya first aya to
aya number 38 in Surfus.
The last one that that says,
the last aya
ayah. And from amongst his signs are the
9 and the day.
Will come up and the moon and the
and the sun and the moon. Let us
come out. Do not,
prostrate
to the sun or the moon
and prostrate Allah
who created them if you are true if
you truly worship them.
I think they reject if they
Yeah. I mean,
you know, found himself bigger than this.
For Ladina and now with those who are
with Allah's partner, you know, you simply
Those people those,
with Allah's
make the spear. Praise Allah
in the night of the day
and without getting tired, without getting,
exhausted.
And then
search them because there's a search there in
the night. So he made the search there
in front of him.
Turned around
and went back to his people when they
said that he came back with a different
face. You know?
They came with a different face.
So what he dropped, but they said he
said to them,
he said, I left
behind me.
I never heard any speech like this.
And while Allah is not poetry. What I'm
saying, nor is this the spells that that
magicians use. Nor is
it the the the, you know, when they
like fortune tellers and and the the,
the the
the priest, the way they
mumble and the way they speak.
Listen to me,
oh, and take it from me and say
it's you know, put it on me. I'm
responsible for what I'm what I'm saying.
Leave this man alone.
Leave this man alone.
Because by Allah,
he is going for with a speech that
he says, there is going to be a
great. He's going
to to, achieve,
great heights. So if the Arabs kill him,
other Arabs kill kill him, then they've done
the job for you.
But if he becomes victorious,
his kingship becomes your kingship.
Meaning, he's from Quraish. So he becomes if
he succeeds,
you succeed. You know? And you will become
the most happy of people. So what they
say,
You know, he bewitched you with his the
sweetness of his tongue, meaning the Quran. Okay?
So he said, this might opinion you do
what you want.
So this is this is just really highlights,
you know, from from the the after the
with the with with them, and the way
that they turned the turned it down,
and the way they rejected it, it just
became confrontation. As I said and we know
we know what's coming.
Because after that, they actually started conspiring to
kill him. They got to the point that
they will assassinate him.
But before that and anybody who became a
Muslim with him,
we either if they were able to
harm him, they harm him. Like, like,
like, the,
you know,
the the the the the problem is rule.
The people who are weak.
You know?
These people are and and
we'll tell some stories
about
how some of them were were very poor.
How the the torture I mean, literally torture,
not,
you know, literal torture that was taking place
for them to,
to abandon Islam. So we'll see that some
of the reaction, the campaigns that they did
against the and,
again, the position
that. And what I'm hoping actually from this,
from this period
as well as
the
of the Muslims to Abyssinian, and that will
be in
in 2 sessions or or so.
And the position that they took, maybe that
will,
I mean, put some some
structure for a discussion, I mean, of
how Muslims we Muslims living in the west
should
how we should be what our role should
be. You know, whether from the Rasool in
Mecca
because I think that we are we are
there are many similarities.
And the way that the also
behaved in Abyssinia,
and they did not stay in time in
Abyssinia. We know that some of them came
back after the
battle of the ditch, and
that was in the 5th year. So you're
talking about the
going to to Abyssinia in
the 4 or 5 years after the,
you know, and stay all the way until
the did
the Hijra,
stayed until, 5 years after the Hijra. So
they stayed for a long period of time.
How did they behave? How did they, you
know, how did they function?
Maybe that will give some some highlights for,
you know, this. And, of course,
needless to say,
I I don't really have any firm answer
for anything. You know?
And I I
don't claim that I I have,
you know, a full view of how things
should be, but just ideas
to to be
discussed.
And this is something really and I I
often talk about that. I really, the message
should be holding,
events, big events, community level events,
bringing scholarships,
people who studied the CRO, studied the Western
societies to develop,
you know, a vision, to develop a methodology
for this vision because
and it should be rooted in our deen,
should be rooted in our CRO, should be
rooted in our Quran.
Because
from my humble view, I mean, every masjid
has its own thing, and everybody is you
know? So
if you're, you know, if you want to
make an impact,
there has to be a orchestrated,
effort amongst the various and
Islamic organizations and and activists, etcetera.
So that that, you know, you you can
have an impact on the society. But,
the way that it is now, I am
a lot of efforts, I believe, is is
done.
But what
often without
really a clear vision,
what what we're trying to achieve,
or
individuals or small organizations, and and this message
has a 100 people in that, you know,
you're talking about a nation of 320,000,000.
Are you, you know,
going over, you know,
entire content? This is not,
you know, it's not
London. It's not it's not a small place.
So it needs much, much more
clarity and understanding
and more more
focused effort amongst the other customers.
I'll stop here in Charlotte Island and,
we we continue
next week with