Mohammed Faqih – Compions for Change- Guiding Youth to Greatness

Mohammed Faqih
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The speakers discuss the "back-to-school" program for young people to learn about change and strategy, emphasizing the importance of belief in a world and learning from failure to achieve success in Muslim nonprofit organizations. They emphasize the need for individuals to have a professional and committed professional approach to their work, as well as the importance of strategic planning and the importance of building schools and non-profit organizations to achieve sustainable growth and impact. The speakers also emphasize the need for financial resources to achieve growth and the importance of understanding the size and scope of a community or organization, as well as finding the right market for certain programs and building a gym for engagement among people. They also discuss the importance of targeting Muslims in the community and finding a way to unlock people's need for social services and empowerment.

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			I need
		
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			the chair to stand up, that's why I
		
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			sit next to him, so I'm not going
		
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			to do that, but you don't need a
		
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			chair.
		
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			Oh, this is not even long-term.
		
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			Long-term.
		
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			Long-term.
		
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			Allahu akbar.
		
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			La ilaha illallah.
		
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			I will stand up.
		
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			Allahu akbar.
		
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			Bismillah.
		
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			Ameen.
		
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			Allahu
		
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			akbar.
		
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			Subhanallah.
		
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			Bismillah.
		
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			Bismillah.
		
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			Bismillah.
		
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			Alhamdulillah.
		
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			Allahu akbar.
		
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			Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah.
		
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			Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh.
		
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			Bismillah alhamdulillah wa salatu wa salamu ala rasulillah
		
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			salallahu alaihi wa salam.
		
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			The plan two weeks ago was, I was
		
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			going to speak tonight, on lessons from the
		
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			seerah of the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam
		
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			when it comes to, you know, having a
		
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			vision and strategic plans in the life of
		
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			the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam.
		
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			And the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam's life
		
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			is full of inspirational stories.
		
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			And then something very extraordinary happened over the
		
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			past week or the past ten days.
		
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			Syria is free.
		
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			Alhamdulillah.
		
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			Allahu akbar.
		
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			And there is an extraordinary story there to
		
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			be told.
		
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			And we're still learning more and more and
		
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			more, not only about the brutality of this
		
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			regime that many people didn't realize how bad
		
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			it was, one of the worst on the
		
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			face of this planet, but also about the
		
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			extraordinary work that an entire generation of young
		
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			people who were brutalized and persecuted, and you
		
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			would think they would have been broken by
		
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			now, yet they were so determined to liberate
		
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			their people and did an amazing job.
		
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			And Allah azza wa jal gave them success.
		
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			There's no doubt in my mind that Allah
		
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			subhanahu wa ta'ala and Qadr worked in
		
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			mysterious ways and they were able to accomplish
		
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			much more than they have themselves expected.
		
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			And this is ذلك تقدير العزيز العليم.
		
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			So Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has His
		
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			ways, something that we are learning more and
		
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			more about.
		
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			So inshallah we'll talk about that.
		
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			In the meanwhile, subhanallah, a very dear friend
		
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			of mine was going to visit me and
		
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			then less than a week ago he told
		
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			me that Friday opened up, I'm going to
		
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			be in town, would you like me to
		
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			give the khutbah?
		
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			I said, of course.
		
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			And we decided to have this program.
		
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			So tonight inshallah wa ta'ala, because you
		
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			all have right inshallah to do your ibadah,
		
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			after the sunnah, we're going to give five
		
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			minutes, we'll do a setup here, we're just
		
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			going to have a conversation or an interview
		
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			between myself and my dear brother Tayyib Yunus
		
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			inshallah, and I'll tell you all about how
		
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			we two met, and inshallah we'll have a
		
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			discussion about change and strategy, inshallah.
		
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			You're all invited to do that inshallah, and
		
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			if anyone wants to ask questions or have
		
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			follow-ups, we can entertain that as well
		
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			inshallah.
		
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			So inshallah after the sunnah, inshallah we'll start
		
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			the interview.
		
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			First of all, welcome Tayyib.
		
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			Thank you for having me here.
		
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			To Memphis Islamic Center once again.
		
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			Last time brother Tayyib was here, you were
		
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			here in the capacity of an advisor or
		
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			consultant for one of the most reputable and
		
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			effective Islamic organizations, and that is CARE, Council
		
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			on Islamic American Relations.
		
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			And we reconnected again, but that wasn't the
		
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			first time we met, right?
		
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			No.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			So the first time Tayyib and I met,
		
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			it was during Hajj.
		
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			I was honored and lucky enough to have
		
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			him in my group, and we were able
		
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			to connect.
		
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			It was a very, you know, personal experience
		
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			for me because my older sister, one of
		
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			my sisters, they're all older than me, but
		
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			one of my sisters, Fatima may Allah Subh
		
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			'anaHu Wa Ta-A'la bless her, was
		
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			performing her Hajj, and we went together, and
		
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			Tayyib was there with his wife, may Allah
		
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			Subh'anaHu Wa Ta-A'la bless both
		
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			of them, and then we connected there, and
		
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			alhamdulillah.
		
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			And then soon after I came back, we
		
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			stayed in touch, and then Tayyib told me
		
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			that he was going, you were considering being
		
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			the?
		
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			Oh, CEO of ISNA.
		
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			CEO of?
		
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			ISNA.
		
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			ISNA, Islamic Society of North America.
		
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			And he's like, what do you think?
		
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			I'm like, oh, great.
		
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			You know, go for it, insha'Allah ta
		
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			'ala.
		
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			And that was an interesting experience, and we
		
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			stayed in touch, and then finally we reconnected
		
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			here, and to his surprise, he found me
		
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			here.
		
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			Last time we met before that was in
		
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			Southern California.
		
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			So alhamdulillah, it's great.
		
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			Now Tayyib, someone might ask, okay, we've heard
		
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			of him, we know him, but we don't
		
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			know him that well, and most of us
		
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			don't do our due diligence, so, you know,
		
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			many people did not look you up.
		
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			So why, you know, tell us a little
		
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			bit briefly about Tayyib Yunus.
		
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			Oh, man, first of all, thank you so
		
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			much for having me out here.
		
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			You know, I would say I mentioned in
		
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			my khutbah today I was born and raised
		
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			in the Panhandle of Florida.
		
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			My father was actually one of the founders
		
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			of ICNA, Islamic Circle of North America.
		
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			And so growing up in the Panhandle, in
		
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			the house, in our home, there was always
		
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			this priority of public service and service to
		
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			humanity.
		
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			That was a priority.
		
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			It wasn't, you know, you just do good
		
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			in school and go become a doctor or
		
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			an engineer.
		
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			That wasn't the priority, and I think that,
		
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			Sheikh, influenced me the most in the early
		
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			stages of my life.
		
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			And my mom, her uncle was the first
		
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			scholar at Medina University from India and Pakistan
		
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			at the time, and so my mom only
		
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			spoke Hadith with us.
		
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			That was her only language.
		
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			So I would say that's the early upbringing.
		
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			Beyond that, I would also say that I
		
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			was a youth in the 80s who struggled
		
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			with identity.
		
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			If I can be vulnerable, I really struggled
		
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			with my Muslim identity in the 80s.
		
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			Is this a safe space, Sheikh?
		
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			Yeah, it is a safe space.
		
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			Like many of our generation.
		
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			Are we the same generation?
		
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			Like many of our generation.
		
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			Okay, so Sheikh said it's a safe space,
		
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			but I struggled with my identity in high
		
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			school.
		
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			But what helped me, Sheikh, was actually a
		
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			mentor at the time.
		
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			So my father kind of knew, okay, I
		
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			don't know what to do with Tayyib.
		
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			So he reached out to an older guy
		
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			in college.
		
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			His name was Ammar Atiyah, who I need
		
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			to introduce you to him.
		
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			He's the imam at a masjid in Gainesville,
		
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			Florida.
		
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			And he really kind of spent time with
		
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			me and taught me what does it mean
		
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			to have that ahuwa and learn from teachers
		
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			and scholars.
		
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			And by the way, that's what drew me
		
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			to Sheikh Faqih.
		
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			When I went to hajj, you know, and
		
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			I just wanted to be around the Sheikh.
		
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			My mother said, if you want to learn
		
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			from a person with knowledge, serve them.
		
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			Because people with knowledge, right, they're good people.
		
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			And a good person is always going to
		
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			want to give something back to you.
		
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			And this is the joke.
		
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			Don't take this serious.
		
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			I'm getting vulnerable here.
		
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			My mom said, and most sheikhs don't have
		
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			money.
		
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			So if you serve them, they'll give you
		
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			knowledge back.
		
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			But mashallah, I'm sure you're doing it.
		
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			Yeah, that didn't work, did it?
		
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			Yeah, it didn't work, did it?
		
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			But so for me and for my younger
		
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			guys in the room here, you know, you
		
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			have mashallah an awesome, may Allah bless you,
		
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			serve him.
		
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			I was actually, I learned a lot.
		
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			Remember, there are many lessons that I learned
		
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			from Tayyib during that hajj experience.
		
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			One of the lessons that still stuck with
		
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			me because I love to was, you know,
		
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			remember you said how there has to be
		
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			a story behind every purchase or every gift.
		
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			Remember that?
		
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			Yes.
		
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			So I'm still practicing that, alhamdulillah.
		
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			Okay, now what did you do to qualify
		
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			to be a consultant to one of the
		
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			most influential national organizations?
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			So first of all, and this is for
		
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			everybody in the room, one of my teachers
		
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			and mentors said to me that if you
		
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			want to be an expert at something, there's
		
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			three E's to expertness.
		
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			This is a framework.
		
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			The first, like if I want to be,
		
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			sheikh, if I want to be an expert
		
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			chef, right, the first E is I need
		
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			to educate myself on how to be a
		
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			chef.
		
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			I need to read some recipes, right?
		
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			The second E to expertness is I need
		
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			to get some exposure.
		
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			I need to see somebody else how to
		
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			bake a cake.
		
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			That's exposure.
		
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			And even for the doctors in the room,
		
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			you don't just go to medical school and
		
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			treat patients, you have residency.
		
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			And in residency, you observe other physicians.
		
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			So the second E is exposure.
		
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			The third E is experience.
		
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			So these are the three E's to become
		
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			an expert at something.
		
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			Educate yourself on it.
		
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			Number two, you get exposure.
		
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			You follow a mentor and you learn from
		
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			that mentor.
		
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			It's a Jedi training.
		
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			And then number three is you do it
		
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			and you learn from failure.
		
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			You learn from failure.
		
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			So these three things qualify you as an
		
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			expert.
		
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			And so for me, I wanted to help
		
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			Muslim nonprofits, and I'll tell you why.
		
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			It all starts with I believe a world,
		
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			and hang with me now, I believe a
		
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			world served by Muslims experiences Islam.
		
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			Say that again.
		
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			I believe a world served by Muslims experiences
		
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			Islam.
		
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			So if I serve my neighbor as a
		
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			Muslim, they experience Islam.
		
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			Yeah?
		
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			So a world served by Muslims experiences Islam.
		
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			Then the question is, hey, how do you
		
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			get everybody to serve?
		
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			How do you get every Muslim in the
		
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			world to serve everybody?
		
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			That's the mission I'm on.
		
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			So then I thought to myself, okay, who
		
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			are the Muslims in the world that are
		
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			serving people?
		
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			Well, it turns out, Sheikh Faki, there's a
		
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			lot of what I call heroes and sheroes.
		
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			These sheroes and heroes, they saw a fard
		
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			kifaya.
		
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			They saw a problem that they want to
		
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			solve, and they went and they set up
		
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			a nonprofit.
		
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			These are heroes and sheroes.
		
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			They quit their jobs.
		
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			They registered a masjid.
		
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			They registered a nonprofit.
		
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			They had some vision.
		
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			I'm going to solve this problem, and they
		
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			registered a nonprofit.
		
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			But the problem, what I found, Sheikh, is
		
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			out of all of these heroes, sheroes, and
		
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			actually in the U.S., there's 8,000.
		
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			In the United States of America, there's actually
		
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			8,000 Muslim nonprofits.
		
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			Out of the 8,000 Muslim nonprofits, 350
		
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			are Islamic schools, and just over 3,500
		
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			are masjids.
		
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			So that's about 4,000, if you were
		
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			hanging with me with the math.
		
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			The other 4,000 are your relief organizations,
		
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			your advocacy organizations, your soup kitchens, and all
		
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			those things.
		
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			These 8,000 Muslim nonprofits, they were founded
		
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			by heroes and sheroes.
		
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			The problem is 95% of them lack
		
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			the financial resources, human talent, human capital, and
		
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			one more thing, a clear strategy.
		
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			They lack these four things to fulfill their
		
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			mission.
		
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			And so these nonprofits are stuck in something
		
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			called a starvation cycle.
		
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			And so, Sheikh, when I heard about that,
		
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			then I said, I wanna somehow understand this
		
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			and work on it.
		
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			You heard about it, you saw it, you
		
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			experienced it.
		
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			All of it.
		
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			Let's be honest and open.
		
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			Okay, before we go any further, I just
		
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			wanna read just one paragraph from multiple paragraphs
		
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			generated by one of the most sophisticated AI
		
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			services about this man.
		
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			Just to give you, this is what AI
		
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			is saying.
		
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			Tayyab Yunus is a prominent leader in the
		
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			social impact and nonprofit sectors, known for his
		
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			expertise in strategic planning, organizational transformation, and community
		
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			engagement.
		
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			He is the CEO of Intuitive Solutions.
		
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			Is that accurate?
		
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			Let me finish.
		
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			A company focused on helping nonprofits achieve sustainable
		
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			growth and maximize their impact through strategy, fundraising,
		
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			and innovation.
		
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			How accurate is this paragraph?
		
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			Well, I never checked myself on chat, GBT,
		
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			but that pretty much describes my world.
		
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			Okay, great.
		
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			So now you know why Tayyab is here,
		
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			inshallah ta'ala.
		
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			So one of the things that we wanted
		
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			to talk about is, okay, you're saying 95
		
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			% lack the proper resources to succeed, right?
		
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			Where should they start?
		
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			First of all, I mean, we're talking about
		
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			change here, right?
		
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			Is change even possible?
		
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			Well, absolutely change is possible.
		
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			And where you start as Muslim organizations, and
		
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			I'm just going to use simple terms because
		
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			we're hanging out right here.
		
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			I don't want to nerd out on my
		
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			PhD, but you just got to dream a
		
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			little bit bigger.
		
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			So let me break that down.
		
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			My dad, is this YouTube live or anything?
		
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			Nobody tell him if you know, okay?
		
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			Just for those of you who don't know,
		
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			his father is a cardiologist named Muhammad Yunus.
		
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			He's, you know, is he retired?
		
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			He's still seeing patients.
		
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			He's still seeing patients, mashallah.
		
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			Well-known, prominent, you know, community leader, known
		
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			at the national level.
		
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			Dr. Zaman knows him very well, right?
		
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			Correct?
		
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			Mashallah, very honorable, respected figure who has done
		
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			a lot for the Muslim community.
		
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			May Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala bless him.
		
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			So we owe him a lot.
		
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			And your mom as well, mashallah.
		
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			May Allah bless both of them.
		
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			So when, so he's, my dad came in
		
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			1970, him and his peers.
		
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			When they came to the U.S., for
		
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			example, they looked around and there were no
		
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			masjids.
		
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			There was nothing.
		
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			There was no Islamic schools.
		
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			There was nothing.
		
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			And so, and when he tells the story,
		
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			he says our first objective was to raise,
		
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			to save money and go back.
		
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			But then we had the kids and the
		
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			kids were talking English and didn't want to
		
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			go back.
		
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			So the first thing we did was we
		
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			built masjids and then we built schools.
		
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			And then we built non-profits, relief organizations,
		
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			and we started to send money back home.
		
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			As a matter of fact, $4.3 billion
		
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			Muslims donate.
		
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			More than half goes overseas.
		
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			I'm not saying that's a bad thing.
		
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			We need to send money to help everybody
		
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			in the world.
		
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			Now, but what did happen, Sheikh, is, and
		
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			this goes back to the question, is their
		
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			vision stopped at, forgive me, but a lot
		
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			of these community builders, their vision stopped at
		
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			building the facility.
		
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			And then they didn't know what to do
		
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			next.
		
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			They didn't know what to do next.
		
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			They didn't dream bigger beyond that.
		
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			And that's what we have to do now,
		
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			is a starting place for us as a
		
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			community is to dream bigger about the next
		
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			step.
		
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			Where do we go from here as a
		
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			community?
		
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			It can't be expand.
		
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			Expand isn't good enough.
		
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			I mean, eventually, this building will cover all
		
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			60 acres.
		
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			And then what?
		
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			That's expansion.
		
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			That's not a real vision.
		
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			That's not growth or impact.
		
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			Exactly.
		
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			So dream bigger about your impact.
		
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			Okay, so what does it take?
		
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			Dreaming bigger about impact.
		
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			Again, this is a safe place.
		
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			Well, number one, succession planning.
		
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			Succession planning basically means let's be honest about
		
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			who the institutional builders were that built this,
		
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			and let's partner with them on developing the
		
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			next set of leaders to carry it forward.
		
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			Number two, strategic planning.
		
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			What is the next vision?
		
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			And I keep coming back to Memphis because
		
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			I'm sitting here, but, you know, what is
		
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			the next stage for this beautiful 60-acre
		
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			property plus the other masjids in the city?
		
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			What is our big plan that we're trying
		
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			to achieve?
		
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			Okay, we hear this word a lot, strategic
		
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			planning or strategy.
		
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			Just briefly, if you can just define what
		
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			you mean by that.
		
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			What does strategic planning or strategy mean?
		
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			A strategic plan, in the most simplest form,
		
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			says what we want to achieve by when.
		
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			It is not an operative plan, by the
		
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			way.
		
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			That's where people get stuck.
		
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			Because most of us, we're managers in our
		
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			workplace, and then we think strategy for a
		
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			masjid is also a project plan on an
		
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			asana board.
		
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			That's not what we're talking about.
		
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			What we're talking about when we say strategic
		
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			plan for this masjid is 10 years from
		
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			now, there are four more masjids strategically placed
		
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			in certain districts that help us financially and
		
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			electorally, and we've also measured and projected growth
		
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			for our school.
		
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			We're not just trying to raise millions of
		
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			dollars for expansion.
		
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			We know that this community is growing at
		
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			this rate, and that means this is how
		
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			many more classrooms we need.
		
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			So you're always ahead of the game, basically.
		
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			You're basically ahead of the game.
		
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			Okay, so let me ask you a question.
		
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			Is this even possible?
		
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			Can you share some examples where strategic planning
		
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			directly impacted an organization that you're aware of
		
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			or its ability to actually create positive social
		
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			changes?
		
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			Oh, absolutely, 100%.
		
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			In the context of...
		
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			Muslim organizations in America.
		
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			Absolutely.
		
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			In the context of a masjid and an
		
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			Islamic community organization, there's Hira Institute in Lexington,
		
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			Kentucky.
		
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			They basically started in a small house, and
		
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			they said, we want to do this right.
		
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			We want a strategic plan from the start.
		
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			And that strategic plan had intentional impact, had
		
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			a number of how many hufadh they were
		
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			going to have by a certain date.
		
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			They had in their strategic plan by when
		
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			they were going to move from their rented
		
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			house to a rented building, to a bigger
		
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			rented building, to then a purchased land, to
		
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			then a built land.
		
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			What we see often in communities is we
		
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			go from rented house to massive facility that's
		
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			empty.
		
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			So these guys, they did a strategic jump
		
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			month to month.
		
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			I mean, year over year.
		
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			In their strategic plan, they also had human
		
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			resources.
		
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			I want to highlight...
		
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			You asked the question, what do you have
		
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			in a strategic plan?
		
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			Non-profits start off as volunteer managed and
		
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			operated.
		
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			But you can't scale up on that.
		
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			Eventually, you have to professionalize your staff.
		
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			You have to have accountable, professional, trained, and
		
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			continuously invested human resources to grow an organization.
		
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			Now, it's not wrong...
		
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			So in this particular organization, all of that
		
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			was already defined and well written.
		
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			And you're saying that they were able to
		
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			hit or meet their objectives?
		
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			Yes.
		
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			At each one of these milestones?
		
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			They executed with Ihsan.
		
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			From the day one, the board said, we're
		
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			going on this plan.
		
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			And from a growth strategy, they went from
		
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			outsourcing to insourcing.
		
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			Okay, now for established...
		
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			Okay, it might be easy for us to
		
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			talk to, let's say, a community or an
		
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			organization that is at its infancy.
		
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			They're starting.
		
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			They're like, okay, what should we do?
		
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			And you come and you say, well, this
		
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			is how you do it, and this is
		
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			how long it's going to take, and these
		
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			are the resources.
		
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			Now, what do you do with NGOs or
		
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			nonprofits or Islamic centers or established communities that
		
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			are trying to overcome resource constraints to execute
		
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			effective strategies?
		
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			Like, they have these immediate needs, you know
		
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			what I mean?
		
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			They're like, well, you don't know what it's
		
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			like.
		
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			We are really struggling with our day-to
		
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			-day operation and needs, and you're talking to
		
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			us about five years.
		
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			We don't even know what's going to happen
		
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			in the next five days.
		
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			So where do organizations who find themselves in
		
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			that kind of situation, where do they start?
		
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			Well, one of the questions that I heard
		
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			was how do you get financial resources?
		
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			Well, the first thing I would lend...
		
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			So let's say finance is not...
		
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			I just want to make it very practical.
		
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			Let's say money is not an issue.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			So you come to a community, you don't
		
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			even know whether money is the issue or
		
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			human resources.
		
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			Oh, you don't know what the issue is?
		
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			Yeah, you don't know.
		
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			So now you come and you find a
		
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			center or a school or an organization trying
		
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			to find a direction for itself.
		
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			What do you do?
		
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			I mean, how do you even start the
		
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			conversation?
		
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			How do you even start the whole process?
		
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			Well, for one, three things.
		
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			First, as part of that process, I want
		
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			to understand the size and scope and growth
		
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			of the Muslim community.
		
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			The research says that only 40% of
		
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			Muslims go to Jummah.
		
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			So if you were to fill this masjid
		
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			to occupancy over Jummah, it's only 40%.
		
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			60% are still not coming to this
		
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			masjid.
		
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			Of the actual size?
		
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			Yes.
		
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			How many people do we get here?
		
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			I mean, I'm usually giving the khutbah on
		
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			the minbar so I don't get to see
		
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			the size.
		
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			I'm talking about average Jummah.
		
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			Dr. Adnan, 500?
		
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			This is both downstairs and upstairs?
		
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			Okay, so 500 is only 40% of
		
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			the community that's around here.
		
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			On a Jummah, only for a Jummah.
		
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			It's not your Eid number.
		
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			Your Eid number is different.
		
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			Dr. Hassan Bagby calls your Eid number a
		
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			different number.
		
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			But that 500 number is only 40%.
		
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			So to have an accurate assessment or estimate
		
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			of the number, you would go to all
		
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			the masjids at the same time and then
		
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			count how many people were present.
		
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			That's the Jummah method.
		
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			You multiply that by 2.5 or something?
		
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			Yes.
		
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			And you get your number.
		
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			We need to do that at some point.
		
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			Okay, so how does that help you?
		
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			What does that help you?
		
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			That helps me because it tells me about
		
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			services we're not providing and value we're not
		
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			creating.
		
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			So as a community center, as a masjid,
		
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			we want to understand what are the needs
		
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			of the community.
		
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			What are they asking for?
		
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			How many of them need mental health services?
		
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			How many of them need Tarbiyah, Tajweed?
		
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			What are their top priorities?
		
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			Then based on that, you build a program
		
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			strategy.
		
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			And once you build a program strategy, you
		
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			build a human resource strategy.
		
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			Your human resource strategy tells you how much
		
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			money you need.
		
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			And with a proper development plan, the community
		
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			will donate.
		
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			American Muslims donate $4.3 billion.
		
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			Half of it they're not giving to the
		
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			Muslim organizations.
		
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			So you can take your budget, how much
		
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			you raise a year, and you can basically
		
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			say this is half as much as we
		
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			could raise.
		
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			Let me ask you a quick question.
		
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			I'm going to ask a couple of questions,
		
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			and then after that it's open for your
		
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			comments and your questions.
		
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			Are you familiar?
		
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			Do you remember the unmasked movement?
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Anyone remembers here?
		
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			You remember the unmasked?
		
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			This was about ten years ago.
		
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			So there was a group, I'm not sure
		
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			if you're familiar with them, that did research.
		
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			They raised some money and they started doing
		
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			research to understand why Muslim youth were getting
		
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			unmasked.
		
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			Why were they running away from the masjids?
		
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			And they started.
		
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			And the first stage of that research of
		
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			theirs, they started going to different masjids and
		
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			different metropolitan areas and megacenters.
		
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			And in the first phase, they figured the
		
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			theory was, oh, it's these irrelevant, out-of
		
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			-touch imams, most of whom happened to be
		
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			immigrants.
		
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			And then what I was told by one
		
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			of the lead people is like, and then
		
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			one-third of the way, we realized that
		
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			most of these imams were very fast learners,
		
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			they were very passionate about their communities, they
		
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			had great ideas and stuff like that.
		
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			And he said, well, the problem is not
		
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			with the imams then.
		
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			They were very receptive and very welcoming.
		
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			He said, then we came to the conclusion,
		
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			two-third of the way, that the problem
		
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			was with the boards that hired these imams
		
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			or that get in the way of these
		
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			imams.
		
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			And then he said, so we started interviewing
		
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			the board members and the presidents and the
		
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			founders and the leaders and people who take
		
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			initiatives.
		
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			And they turned out, most of them turned
		
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			out to be very passionate, amazing, generous people.
		
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			May Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala bless them.
		
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			So he said, we came to the conclusion
		
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			that the problem is not with them.
		
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			And then he said, we figured out the
		
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			problem is with the community.
		
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			So they went back and, you know, because
		
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			when they interviewed the community, some communities complained
		
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			about imams.
		
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			And then when they interviewed the imams, they
		
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			found out that maybe the problem is with
		
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			the board.
		
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			And then when they looked at various samples,
		
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			they said, wait a minute, the problem is
		
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			with the community.
		
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			So communities where there are enough people who
		
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			are engaged, very aware, you know, concerned, and,
		
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			you know, they're engaged, do much better than
		
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			communities where the members are just laid back.
		
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			You know, they just don't care.
		
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			They just want to come and receive services.
		
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			Or even if there's no service, they either
		
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			complain or they just don't care.
		
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			So how, to what extent do you agree
		
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			with that assessment?
		
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			Well, I, what I, the way I solve
		
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			that problem is through what's called mission market
		
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			fit.
		
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			So what do I mean by that?
		
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			What I mean by mission market fit, especially
		
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			like, especially this center, to me, I would
		
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			classify it as a mega center.
		
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			Mega centers...
		
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			We made it, we're a mega center, M
		
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			.I.C., Allahu Akbar.
		
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			A mega, mega...
		
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			We are, we are the...
		
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			Have you ever seen a property bigger than
		
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			this?
		
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			I have not.
		
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			Okay, Alhamdulillah.
		
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			I have not.
		
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			So we're America's mega center.
		
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			Mega, so here's where I come from.
		
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			So a friend of mine, a colleague of
		
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			mine, he studies masjids, okay?
		
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			And what he, when he looked at, you
		
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			know, when masjid Quba in Medina, they had
		
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			a museum.
		
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			And if you've been to masjid Quba before
		
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			in Medina, they have a museum.
		
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			And in this museum, they have a model
		
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			of the Prophet's exact city.
		
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			And if you look at this model, you
		
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			see the Prophet's masjid.
		
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			But then you see all these other masjids.
		
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			And then in this model, they've drawn a
		
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			line that shows Masjid Nabawi today, which encompasses
		
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			all these masjids.
		
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			So my researcher friend, he basically says, Masjid
		
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			Nabawi was the mega masjid.
		
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			It's where the classes were.
		
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			It's where the zakat distribution was.
		
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			It's where business operations took place.
		
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			But then you had micro masjids in the
		
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			neighborhoods, allowing people to still fulfill a fard.
		
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			So what he writes in his research is,
		
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			is that the blueprint for the Muslim community
		
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			is you need mega centers and major centers
		
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			near populations fulfilling their needs.
		
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			And then you need micro centers to help
		
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			people fulfill their salah.
		
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			I totally agree.
		
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			You know, my dream is to have, we
		
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			should have a musallah in every zip code
		
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			in America.
		
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			That's more than 41,000 musallahs.
		
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			We're only, what, 3,500?
		
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			I would even go as far as saying,
		
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			what's the name of the neighborhood you live
		
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			in?
		
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			I drove, I've been in the car and
		
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			I see the name on all these streets
		
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			with houses.
		
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			Here?
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			Cordova?
		
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			This is, Cordova is the city.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			But then they have these housing communities.
		
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			Woodland.
		
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			Woodlands, okay.
		
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			So based on my colleague's research, he says
		
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			there should be a musallah in Woodland.
		
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			Well, there is, this is it.
		
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			Oh, this one, okay.
		
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			But there's gotta be another housing community.
		
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			So the little housing community I live in
		
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			is called Celebration.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Which is a housing community in Orlando.
		
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			So Celebration would have a musallah.
		
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			But then, in our zip code, we have
		
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			Jami Masjid, if you've been to Orlando before,
		
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			which is the mega center.
		
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			It's where the funeral services are.
		
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			It's where the religious director is.
		
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			The tajweed teacher.
		
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			The Islamic school.
		
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			The Sunday school.
		
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			The mega center has services.
		
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			The micro centers are so you and I
		
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			can get up in the morning and walk
		
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			the fajr together.
		
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			Otherwise you have two rows here probably.
		
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			Fajr, yeah.
		
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			Two?
		
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			But imagine if there was a micro center
		
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			in every place.
		
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			Now, going back to the unmasked question.
		
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			The way we address the unmasked question is
		
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			to actually understand what their needs are and
		
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			have tailored services for them.
		
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			If you think about Roots in Dallas.
		
00:47:06 --> 00:47:07
			Abdulrahman Murphy...
		
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			Where is Hasnain?
		
00:47:09 --> 00:47:10
			Hasnain is a big fan.
		
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			He actually has a Roots...
		
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			Where is he?
		
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			If you think...
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			He has a Roots mug.
		
00:47:19 --> 00:47:20
			Sameer.
		
00:47:20 --> 00:47:21
			Sameer.
		
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			We need to have our own cafe mugs,
		
00:47:23 --> 00:47:23
			man.
		
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			We have our board members walking around with
		
00:47:26 --> 00:47:27
			Roots mugs, man.
		
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			I'm just kidding.
		
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			If you think about Roots in Dallas.
		
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			At first Abdulrahman Murphy used to go to
		
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			masjids.
		
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			And the whole theme was come as you
		
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			are.
		
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			And believe it or not, there was a
		
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			masjid that kicked them out.
		
00:47:42 --> 00:47:43
			Why did they kick them out?
		
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			Even when Roots was bringing Sheikh Faqih, 200
		
00:47:48 --> 00:47:50
			people, 300 people that never went to that
		
00:47:50 --> 00:47:51
			masjid before.
		
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			The masjid kicked them out because somebody complained
		
00:47:55 --> 00:48:00
			that the sisters were not wearing hijab and
		
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			some of the brothers were coming with shorts.
		
00:48:04 --> 00:48:08
			So the reason why the unmasked don't come
		
00:48:08 --> 00:48:14
			is because A, there isn't tailored services for
		
00:48:14 --> 00:48:17
			them and then B, yeah, the rest of
		
00:48:17 --> 00:48:22
			the community is protecting a culture that isn't
		
00:48:22 --> 00:48:24
			welcoming to every culture.
		
00:48:24 --> 00:48:26
			What's interesting, by the way, I'll tell you,
		
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			is the research right now says that we
		
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			know 23% of our Muslim population is
		
00:48:35 --> 00:48:36
			leaving Islam.
		
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			But at the same time, 23% are
		
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			converting back to Islam.
		
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			So it's a net zero.
		
00:48:42 --> 00:48:44
			And we also know that's true from a
		
00:48:44 --> 00:48:47
			faith-based perspective because if my ummah doesn't
		
00:48:47 --> 00:48:48
			worship me, I'll replace it with another one
		
00:48:48 --> 00:48:49
			that will.
		
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			So the net neutral number is there.
		
00:48:52 --> 00:48:57
			But the other thing that we know from
		
00:48:57 --> 00:49:02
			recent research is Muslims are, American Muslims, millennials,
		
00:49:03 --> 00:49:04
			is the largest demographic.
		
00:49:05 --> 00:49:06
			Millennials is after 1980.
		
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			That's the largest demographic.
		
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			How many of you guys in here consider
		
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			yourself a millennial?
		
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			Yeah?
		
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			How about, umm, what's the generation before millennial,
		
00:49:21 --> 00:49:21
			Gen X?
		
00:49:21 --> 00:49:23
			Yeah, that's us, right?
		
00:49:23 --> 00:49:24
			Gen X, raise your hand.
		
00:49:25 --> 00:49:27
			Yeah, so a big chunk of this room
		
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			is Gen X.
		
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			So if millennials are the largest demographic of
		
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			the community and they're not in this room,
		
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			that means we're already losing the market.
		
00:49:37 --> 00:49:38
			They're outside drinking tea.
		
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			Yeah?
		
00:49:39 --> 00:49:40
			They don't want to talk to you and
		
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			that.
		
00:49:40 --> 00:49:41
			They don't want to talk.
		
00:49:41 --> 00:49:42
			They don't want to hear anyone.
		
00:49:42 --> 00:49:43
			They don't want to hear us.
		
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			They just want to have an experience.
		
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			They want to have experience.
		
00:49:46 --> 00:49:46
			Yes.
		
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			So programming share.
		
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			Okay.
		
00:49:49 --> 00:49:50
			Like, you know, if I could wave a
		
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			magic wand in every masjid, I would basically,
		
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			immediately, I would invest dollars into a study.
		
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			I would launch a study and that would
		
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			target every Muslim household in Memphis.
		
00:50:06 --> 00:50:07
			It might cost us five grand.
		
00:50:07 --> 00:50:08
			And we launch a study.
		
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			We do digital ads and we find out
		
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			how many Muslims there are exactly in Memphis.
		
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			Five grand.
		
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			Number two.
		
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			We find out what are their needs.
		
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			Where are they at in their faith?
		
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			What masjid do they go to?
		
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			If they had a masjid that was welcoming,
		
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			what would they need?
		
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			Then we take this service and we go
		
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			to every masjid and say, hey, Midtown, you're
		
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			doing these services.
		
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			Right?
		
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			Hey, MIC, you're doing these services.
		
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			I don't know any other masjids here, by
		
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			the way.
		
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			Masjid al-Rahman, Masjid al-Nur, Masjid al
		
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			-Muslimeen, Masjid al-Mu'mineen.
		
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			Every masjid gets a playbook.
		
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			Every masjid gets a playbook.
		
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			Masjid Salam?
		
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			Masjid Salam.
		
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			They all get a playbook.
		
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			And then I put another five grand in
		
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			to advertising these programs to all this community
		
00:51:00 --> 00:51:01
			and we bring the people.
		
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			We bring the people back to the masjids
		
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			into programs that matter.
		
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			And you know what will end up happening?
		
00:51:06 --> 00:51:10
			The research says, Sheikh, that this demographic, they
		
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			actually are more philanthropic than their immigrant grandparents.
		
00:51:14 --> 00:51:15
			They donate more.
		
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			They donate more money.
		
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			So you just got to commit to a
		
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			strategy.
		
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			All right.
		
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			I'm done with my questioning.
		
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			I have more questions, but I'm sure you
		
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			guys have some comments or questions that you
		
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			would like to ask, so please feel free.
		
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			The question was mission market fit.
		
00:51:44 --> 00:51:47
			Mission market fit is essentially, in the business
		
00:51:47 --> 00:51:49
			world, you have product market fit.
		
00:51:50 --> 00:51:52
			Apple has an iPhone and they have like
		
00:51:52 --> 00:51:54
			four versions of them.
		
00:51:54 --> 00:51:57
			They're lined up to a market, you know.
		
00:51:58 --> 00:52:01
			Toyota has five or six different cars that
		
00:52:01 --> 00:52:02
			are lined up to a market.
		
00:52:02 --> 00:52:04
			That's called product market fit.
		
00:52:04 --> 00:52:07
			In the nonprofit world, you have mission market
		
00:52:07 --> 00:52:07
			fit.
		
00:52:08 --> 00:52:12
			Mission market fit basically means that certain programs
		
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			in...
		
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			Let me back step.
		
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			All of our programs achieve one mission.
		
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			And for a masjid, it's really engaging people
		
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			into Islamic activism and citizenship, broadly speaking.
		
00:52:31 --> 00:52:35
			A masjid's purpose, A, is to provide space
		
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			for aqeem al-salah, but B, it should
		
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			also unlock someone's civic power or public service.
		
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			Yeah?
		
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			Okay, so that's the big mission.
		
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			Then when I say mission market fit, I
		
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			mean, okay, how do we now find the
		
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			different markets around our masjid and line programs
		
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			up for these markets?
		
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			And we have to think about markets.
		
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			Like my dad, for example, when I have
		
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			this conversation with him, in his mind, there's
		
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			two markets.
		
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			There's youth and everyone else.
		
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			Yeah?
		
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			And he's not wrong.
		
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			Allah bless him.
		
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			In his mind, in his buddies, it was
		
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			build a gym.
		
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			Right?
		
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			And nothing's wrong with that.
		
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			I'm not complaining about it.
		
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			I'm saying, you know, people's needs change.
		
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			Markets change.
		
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			You have to adapt them.
		
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			I went to this one masjid.
		
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			They had a pickleball court.
		
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			Anyway.
		
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			We do have one.
		
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			Oh, we have pickleball.
		
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			Oh, mashallah.
		
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			Multiple ones.
		
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			Yeah, and I agree.
		
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			To me, I see centers that are specialized
		
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			in da'wah, da'wah activities, right?
		
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			Centers that are specialized in providing social services
		
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			and healthcare and mental health, you know, services.
		
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			Centers that kind of specialize in youth education
		
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			and empowerment.
		
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			Centers that kind of specialize in, you know,
		
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			academic Islamic, you know, seminary or academic.
		
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			Centers that kind of specialize in, you know,
		
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			Quran institutions and stuff like that.
		
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			You can have that.
		
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			You can have different specialties and everyone working
		
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			together beautifully fulfilling the overall need of a
		
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			very diverse community.
		
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			That can be done.
		
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			And I think I'll have to conclude with
		
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			this because we're out of time.
		
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			If I can think of any community that
		
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			is so capable of achieving this in a
		
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			short period of time is the Memphis community.
		
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			The greater Memphis area community has assets, infrastructure,
		
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			resources to get all of this done and
		
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			do it at a level that will impress
		
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			everyone else.
		
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			I promise you in five to ten years
		
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			if we adopt some sort of community-wide
		
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			strategy, Memphis will be the place that everyone
		
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			wants to move to because we've got, we
		
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			have an amazing Islamic school that obviously needs
		
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			to grow, needs to be empowered.
		
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			We have the space.
		
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			We have very engaged and diverse and generous
		
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			community.
		
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			We have talents.
		
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			We are a young community.
		
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			There is, and more importantly, there is a
		
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			sense of, there's a level of unity and
		
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			cooperation and collaboration that you don't find in
		
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			many communities.
		
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			But you can't take that for granted because
		
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			what happens with communities is that they grow
		
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			and they start fragmenting, right?
		
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			So they grow and then they grow apart
		
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			from each other.
		
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			In order for that not to happen, before
		
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			you start coming to MIC in five or
		
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			ten years and then feeling like a stranger
		
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			and you don't know anyone, you can't relate
		
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			to anyone, if you are proactive, you can
		
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			actually prevent that from happening and you can
		
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			see the community growing organically and beautifully and
		
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			becoming a very vibrant and empowering community.
		
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			People will move from other places to come
		
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			here and be part of this, inshallah ta
		
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			'ala.
		
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			And I'm very hopeful, alhamdulillah.
		
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			I think, I really thank you for joining
		
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			us tonight, inshallah ta'ala.
		
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			Brother Tayyib is available, inshallah.
		
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			We'll be out, we need to be out
		
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			of here by nine o'clock.
		
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			Does that still apply, Dr. Adnan?
		
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			Huh?
		
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			Not tonight?
		
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			Okay, good.
		
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			So, inshallah ta'ala, I just wanted to
		
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			give everyone an opportunity if you want to
		
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			engage Brother Tayyib.
		
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			If you have any questions, inshallah ta'ala.
		
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			But this was a wonderful opportunity.
		
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			Thank you for coming and visiting and accepting
		
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			to do this on a short notice.
		
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			May Allah Subh'anaHu Wa Ta-A'la
		
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			bless you for joining us.
		
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			Subh'anaHu Wa Ta-A'la