Maryam Amir – Women Quran Reciters w Qari Ashir Kirk from@MeasuredTonesInstituteofQuran

Maryam Amir
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The speakers discuss the importance of memorizing the Quran in shaping young people to be successful in Islam, including struggles with Arabic learning and the use of the Prophet sallavi alayhi wa sallam in the time of the Prophet sallavi alayhi wa sallam. They stress the importance of educating the audience on the topic and finding mentors and advice for women in learning from their experiences. The speakers encourage viewers to share their thoughts and share their experiences.
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Alright, Inshallah, going to wait just a quick moment. We are live

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now. I'm going to take a quick moment to share the live stream on

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my personal page from from my business page. So we're not going

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to start just, just, just, just yet, Inshallah, but we are live.

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You. All right.

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All right, since your time is very precious and you have to go right

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after this interview, we're going to get started right away.

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Inshallah, let the people roll in as they roll in. So Bismillah.

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Bismillah. Alhamdulillah, Allah.

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Subhanahu, wa taala. So we have a very special guest today on

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episode four of measure tones podcast where we discuss all

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things Quran. Very excited to have hafila Sheikha, our teacher,

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Mariam Amir Alhamdulillah, and before giving her the floor

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Inshallah, I would like to take a quick moment to read her bio, so

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that we can learn just a little bit about her inshallah before we

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get started, not to embarrass her or anything like that. But you

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know, we just gotta know who it is that we are, that we're talking

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about and talking with inshallah so sada hafila melim Amir received

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her master's degree in education from UCLA, where her research

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focused on the effects of mentorship, rooted in critical

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race theory for urban high school students of color, did not expect

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that. Did not expect that. Masha Allah, it's a hot topic today,

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too. Masha Allah, she holds a second bachelor's degree. Yes, she

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holds a second bachelor's degree in Islamic studies through

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Alzheimer University. Alhamdulillah Mariam studied in

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Egypt, memorized the Quran and its entirety. Alhamdulillah and has

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researched a variety of religious sciences, ranging from Quranic

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exegesis, tafsir, Islamic jurisprudence and prophetic

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narrations and commentary Hadith, women's rights within Islamic law

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and more. For the past 15 years, masha Allah, she's featured in a

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video series on faith produced by good cast.net called the Miriam

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Amir show. Sha Allah, maybe before we leave, you can tell us a little

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bit about the Mariam Amir show and how people can follow that access

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that content. Inshallah, she actively hosts women who have

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memorized Quran from around the world to recite and share their

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journeys through her

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into the revelation series and the hashtag for mothers campaign. She

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is an instructor with Swiss and hikma institutes and an author

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with virtual mosque in El Juma online, Miriam's focus in the

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fields of

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spiritual connection, identity, actualization, social justice and

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Women's Studies have humbled her the opportunity to lecture

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throughout the United States and around the world, including in

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Jerusalem, Mecca, Medina, Stockholm, London, Toronto, and

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more. She holds a second degree black belt and Thai Kwan. Do what

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don't mess with this. Sister Allah, and she speaks multiple

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languages. Alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah. So we're very

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excited to have you on sister, Alhamdulillah. Let's just

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Alhamdulillah. So let's just, let's get, get right into it.

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Inshallah. So

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I just want, before starting, I had wanted to to just get a little

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bit about the beginning of your journey with the Quran. You know,

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you memorize the Quran. And obviously, obviously, this is

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something, this is something that's very, you know, important

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to me as a father of many, many young girls, little girls, I got a

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bunch of daughters, Alhamdulillah and, yeah. So, as you know, when,

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when we think of Quran reciters and and scholars of Quran and

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things like that. Typically, you know, first thing comes to mind

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is, you know, a bunch of brothers, right? A bunch of men. And so it's

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always nice to see our sisters coming out and into the limelight,

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to the forefront, and showing our daughters, our sisters wives,

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that, you know, they can also achieve this. You.

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You know just as much as as the next person, Alhamdulillah. So

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tell us a little bit about your journey and how that was for you.

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Inshallah,

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confit was ALLAH to some Allah. So that is such a blessing and an

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honor to learn from you. Imam. It's such a gift to be with you

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here, someone who I admire so much in your efforts for the Quran.

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Mashallah, father of daughters, who is showing women their his his

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own daughters, how they can be the forefront of of happy thoughts and

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woman of Quran mashallah, it's such a gift to be able to have

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that in your in your life, and be able to see that. Alhamdulillah, I

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was very blessed with parents who were intentional about teaching me

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Islam. My my family, a lot of my family, a lot of my family members

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are converts, and so it was a very intentional way of wanting to

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teach, you know, the next generation Islam. But I didn't

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feel connected. I didn't know if I wanted to be Muslim. I at the

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time, to be completely honest, I really I especially growing up in

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California, I wanted to be like Britney Spears and the actors who

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were really famous at the time, just like these were the role

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models that I saw as the cool people who, as a middle schooler,

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as a high schooler, you know, like all of our peers, wanted to be

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kind of similar and so, or a lot of a lot of them, at least. So

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that was kind of like the path that I envisioned, and religiosity

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and spirituality wasn't part of the journey that I had wanted to

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see myself on. And then when my parents, they decided that we were

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going to go for Amra Subhanallah, they told us, when I was in high

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school, we were going to go for Amra, and I was terrified. I was,

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you know, as a teenager, that was not any sort of and that I didn't

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have any sort of like identity rooted in this is how I would be.

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I was worried that I go to Mecca, come back, and become some like

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pious person, because I'd seen other people have that story, and

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I did not want that to be my story. Subhan Allah, when I first

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saw the Kaaba, I just couldn't I couldn't hold back the I felt

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like, like this was my heart, and something just slammed into it.

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Seeing the kiabah for me, was this moment of waking up. It was like

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Ethan man can and Mehta, the one who was dead

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that Allah gave this person life. This is the way I felt like my

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heart was literally dead, and for the first time in my life, I felt

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it come alive. And in that moment, I remember repenting to Allah and

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asking Him to guide me and to forgive me and to help me stay

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close to Him, because this feeling was something I had never known

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existed, and I I wanted to do everything possible to come back

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and experience that again. So when I went back to high school, back

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to, you know, California, everything was the same. I was the

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one who went through a spiritual experience. It's not like everyone

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in the world suddenly shifted, but I did, and I didn't know how to

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maintain that, considering I didn't want to identify as that

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before. And so when I came back, I decided that what is one way that

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I can connect to Allah,

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and I thought the Quran. I mean, the Quran is the word of God, and

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so if I want to get to know Him, then being able to read his book

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is the best way that I could get to know him. But I am not Arab. I

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didn't speak Arabic. I barely could read the Quran, of course,

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like when I was a kid, you know, my parents had put me in classes

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so that I could read it, but I had an open Quran in years. Since I

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was a kid, I could barely read it. And so I really struggled. I mean,

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I intended that I was going to read five pages of Quran a day.

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And for someone who doesn't know how to read Quran, that is a lot

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of pages. I didn't know that at the time. I thought the number

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five is not that big. It was a lot of effort. But every single day, I

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was intentional about it. And sometimes it would take hours, but

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I would still do it. And one day, my mom walked past my room and she

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was like, why don't you read it in English, so that you understand

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what it's saying. And

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when I share that now, I am overcome with emotion, because I

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feel like Allah just gifted me. I know so many people who start the

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process with the Quran and they're never told read a translation.

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It's never even suggested to them to read a translation. It's all

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about read as much Arabic as you can, and as as much Baroque as

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there is in the Quran. In Arabic, Abu Gore, or the Quran, who

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mentions that if you recite the Quran in your home, you know the

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the Shayol clean, leave the there's there's the angels are

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roaming the earth looking for people recital Quran. There's

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reward in every single letter that you're reciting, of course. But it

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was also revealed in Arabic for a reason, to people who were Arabic

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speakers for a reason. And so I'm so grateful for my mother, who

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made that suggestion, who she herself really found, you know,

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the beauty of Islam to the Quran when she was in college. And my

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dad, too. And so for me, being able to Subhanallah, access the

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the.

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The Quran in the English translation, and hearing it in a

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way that I felt related to my life changed my life. I would go to

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school and something would happen, and I'd come home bawling, and I

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just like, just like, open the Quran to a random page, and then

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point my finger in the page that I would open it to. That was the

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exact thing that I was going through in school over and over.

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It was just a panel of every single time I felt like, Is Allah

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listening? And then the next verse would be,

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I answer the one who calls upon me when he calls. It was just so

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direct. And I felt like Allah knows what I'm going through. He's

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watching me. He's aware. And I don't want to just know this book

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to read it anymore. I want to I want to really know it, to learn

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it, to memorize it. And that moment came for me when we were

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driving to tadawiya. It was Ramadan and Sheik Nasr al ramidi,

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the tape. Cassette was playing of him reciting, I don't know if

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you've heard this recitation, like old school recitations of it was

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sort of minuen. I didn't know that at the time. I just heard him

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crying so hard. And as he's crying and he stops to take a breath, you

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can hear all the people behind him crying. And I asked my dad, like,

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why are they all crying? And he said, Oh, this is talking about

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the Hereafter. And subpala that night after tadawiya, it was the

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first night I ever felt the sweetness of Ramadan. Like people

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talk about the sweetness of Ramadan, I never felt the

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sweetness of Ramadan until that moment, that night, I felt it. And

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I came home after tadawiya, and I opened swords on what me noon, and

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I read it in the English translation and in the Arabic, and

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I was like, I want to memorize this chapter. And that's the first

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chapter I memorized of the Quran. That chapter I memorized in the

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English transliteration. I barely could read the Arabic still, so I

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read memorized like in English letters and Subhan Allah. After

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the blessing of being able to memorize it with the English

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transliteration, I was like, I want to, I want to memorize the

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Quran for real. And so that's when I started going to a teacher who

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asked me, Do you want to memorize this, or do you want to memorize

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it correctly? And I was like, No, I just want to memorize. Like,

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memorize, that's all. And she's like, No, no. Like, if you

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memorize all of it and you're not doing it correctly, what's the

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point? So that put me on the process of tijuid and hamdullah.

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From that point until I finally memorized Sakura, and it took

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about seven years. It took me so long because every time I found a

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teacher, something happened, and I had to stop. And so when I found

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another teacher, it would take, like the first six months she just

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want to review what I had memorized in the past, and then I

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take then, for some reason, I had to stop studying with her, and

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then I'd find it take another eight months to find another

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teacher. And in that time, I'm reviewing and trying to memorize

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over and over and over. I was working full time. I was going to

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school full time, or a mixture of both. And then Alhamdulillah, in

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Egypt, I was able to find a teacher full time. And when I came

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back, I was looking again. And this is where Allah blessed my

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journey to another level, he blessed me with Sheik Moheb FUDA.

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Sheik Moheb FUDA is well known in Quran circles as mashallah, a

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master reciter, Tabarak Allah. He has ejazette in every his

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recitation is so strong. He never looks at the Mushaf. He opens it

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because it's ay bada to stare at the Mushaf, but he doesn't recite

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the pages that he's looking at because Subhan Allah, the

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recitation that he's saying in his head is so strong that if he looks

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at the Mustafa, it confuses him. Masha Allah, Tabarak Allah, his

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recitation is so

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is so

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perfect. Barak Allah, so when he is doing his recitation, and he

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shares with you how the Quran is a form of barakah and risk and and

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he's sharing all this love for the Quran. But it's not just that for

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me as a woman, especially as a non Arab woman, the way that he taught

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me to love the Quran as a woman, to find my voice as a woman, was

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so intentional, he allowed me to I loved the Quran already. I was in

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love with the message the way that Allah guided me through Islam. It

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was just I was so nothing more. I I struggled with women's issues a

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lot as I was studying Islam more, the more I learned about women's

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issues, the more I became afraid of what I was going to find. And

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so I stopped studying women's issues for years, until I was

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ready to come back to it, and now, Alhamdulillah, those are the

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issues that I'm so passionate about, and I find healing and so

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much uplift through but at that time when I could barely speak

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Arabic, when I was just trying to focus on, how do I make this

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connection, the Quran was and still is my life. But Sheik Moheb

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taught me as a woman that the Quran is powerful for women,

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especially, and being able to have that experience open the doors for

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me to start seeing the Quran, not just which is 100% a book that

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transforms our lives, and, of course, a book that transformed

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the world, but also a book, specially, where women are heard

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by.

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God, and that especially in a world where sometimes we feel like

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we're not seen, and that we have to fight just for some basic

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rights or or Forgive me for saying fight for basic rights, maybe it's

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not the right term, but sometimes there is so much that we struggle

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with just because of being woman, whether it's in general society,

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the messages we hear on what our is. It's only about our beauty.

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It's only about, you know, the general society messages of what

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men are, and then the specific messaging within the Muslim

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community, depending on the community you're in, all of those

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different things, the healing that the Quran brings through. That was

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the message that I found from Sheik Mohib. And so I'm so

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grateful and blessed hamdullah. Mean that he that he was my

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teacher, and that ALLAH blessed me with him and Alhamdulillah, I'm

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still doing my review with Hamdulillah, so grateful for that.

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The review is, of course, a lifetime, but that's a shortened

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version of my story.

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Alhamdulillah. Now I appreciate you sharing that. Alhamdulillah, I

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heard you, you and

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Imam jihad, talking about Sheik Mohib in the end of Ramadan

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program that you guys did with all the Quran and whatnot. So I

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remember you mentioning that mashallah, is he the teacher, also

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of the the two young the brother and sister that were reciting that

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night? Yes, there are two of his students. Yes,

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yet. Two

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of his students? Yes, I've yet to come out to to the West Coast,

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like, you know, the furthest West I've been, I think, is New Mexico.

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I went to Islam, the Adobe Masjid out there in Abu New Mexico. Yeah,

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that's beautiful. Yes, absolutely breathtaking. Everything about it

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is breathtaking. Yeah. And so that's the furthest West that I've

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been there in, like, Colorado, but, like, I haven't been to

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California at all yet, so I'm trying to get out there. Got a

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good friend out there, so I got a bunch of people out there, but oh

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my goodness, Talib thought of Safi. Do you know, thought of

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Sophie.

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He's like in dental he's in he's in LA he's like in dental school,

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or no, no, I think he changed. He changed to, like, optometry or

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something like that. But this guy's recitation, Masha Allah.

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Masha Allah, He has multiple trying to finish his heavenly he's

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in optometry school, uh, he's from, like, Jordan or something.

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But anyway, so I'm trying to get out there. Sean. Want to visit

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him. Want to visit, you know, shakes head, and then you guys are

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your community. So thank you. Thank you. No, thank you for

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sharing that in that, yeah, you, you actually answered my second

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question, because I was going to ask you, you know, because you

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have so much content that really, you know, it shows how pat that

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your content, basically, is

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sort of a window right into your heart, you know, and into your

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mind, with regards to the passion and love that you have for the

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Quran Alhamdulillah. And so I was going to ask you, you know what

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ignited you know what ignited that passion and what keeps you going?

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And so you answered that pretty much in you know what you said

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just now? Alhamdulillah, well, you said, what ignited and What?

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What? What? What ignites that passion? Ignited that passion. But

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did you say, what keeps you going? Can you maybe share, share with

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us? What keeps you motivated? Why? Why? Why are you not giving up the

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fight? Because, in your voice, when you spoke, when you said we

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talked about, you know, just sort of the struggle for for basic

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rights and so on and so forth, when it comes to women and the

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space of Quran and Island and so on, and you sounded almost

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exhausted, right? Like, man, it's so much. It's such a, you know, a

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tough a tough struggle, a tough fight. Why? Why? Why stay in the

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fight. Why stay in the struggle? Why keep it pushing

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so especially because I am actively addressing women's

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issues. I hear from women every day. I hear from I average. This

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is, like so awkward to say, but I'm just going to share it because

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I think it's really important to realize how intense this is. Just

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on Instagram, I average around 500 messages a week, and those are

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women who are messaging me, who are saying the struggles that

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they're having with religion, the struggles that they're having in

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their marriages, the struggles that they're having with not being

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able to access the masjid, the struggles they're having with

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whether or not they want to stay Muslim, and a lot of times,

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they're coming from young people who are in their early 20s and in

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their late teens, who are questioning all of Islam because

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they haven't seen women as part of spaces of knowledge, and they're

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wondering why women are inferior to men. Being asked if a woman is

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some somehow not quite a, not quite a, not quite an animal, but

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not quite a human like the question.

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That I receive are absolutely just blow my mind the way that these

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young women have clung onto their faith despite the fact that they

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constantly struggle with the messages they think are Islamic

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with regards to women's roles and who we are in the sight of law.

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And then I hear from women who are in their 30s and 40s, who have

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been hearing certain messages about what it means to be a Muslim

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woman in the community, and who now in their marriages, or now

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that they're divorced, or because they've never been married, have

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faced a lot of struggle because some of the reasons they did

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things, for example, wearing hijab was part of a greater community

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discussion on the reason that we wear hijab is because you're

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protecting yourself, or because you are for men, or because you

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are wearing it so that you you save yourself for your husband.

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For example, those are some of the messages that these women in their

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30s and 40s grew up with, and these women in their 30s and 40s

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trigger warning for what I'm going to share

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have many times been the victims and survivors of sexual assault or

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their their their their marriages have been with, you know, an

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abuser who has harmed them physically to great extent, as

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well as their children, and so now all the messages they grew up

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with, do these things, you're going to have a wonderful, happy

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life where hijab,

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everything will go well, because it's A protection and it's a

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guarantee those were the messages they were taught, and that's not

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the experience that they had. So sentence and hearing that your

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religion is going to do these things for you and it doesn't, is

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really hard for them to grapple with, because when they go into

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religious spaces, not always many times like yourself. Sheik, may

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Allah, bless you. So many imams are so supportive, actively

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accessible to women, actively caring about the protection and

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the Rights of Woman. But unfortunately, sometimes that's

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not the experience women have. And I've had women who have asked me,

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you know, you're the you're the first person who's told me it's

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okay for me to separate from, you know, to separate from her husband

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when he has held a knife to her neck. Like, I'm the first person

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who said that it's not okay for a man to hold a knife to your neck.

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That's insane. Like, how is that possible? So the more that I hear

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from women like this, like, sometimes people tell me things

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like, you know, women already can access the Masjid. Why are you so

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obsessed with women and going to the masjid because I'm I'm glad

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that hasn't been your experience, but maybe you're not receiving the

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messages I'm receiving, and the women who are experiencing the

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things that they're experiencing or sharing with me that they don't

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have access and a safe place, and a place that they feel like they

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can worship, and an imam that they feel come to asking, and a woman

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of knowledge they can seek knowledge from. So like, the more

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that I sometimes I'm overwhelmed. I can't tell you how often I'm

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just like, I just want to get off of all social media. I just want

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to focus on my Quran. I just want to focus on my own studies. That's

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all I want to do. But then I hear from women who are telling me that

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they were about to leave Islam and coming across the content, it's

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not because of me. It's because I share so much about other women my

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age. Is all about Express

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profiling, women who are women of knowledge, women who are

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memorizers of the Quran and recent Quran all around the world. She

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are, you know, a woman or who are scholars, who have dedicated their

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lives to Phil and to Islamic law, and who are, who are Masha Allah,

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such examples for all women and many communities never saw that. I

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I didn't see this growing up. Many communities never saw many girls.

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Many daughters never saw women they could hope to be like as they

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were growing up. And that filling that space for other woman has

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been a form of healing, and that's what part of part of the messages

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that I receive is just the gratitude for doing this, because

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they feel like they can actually

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find themselves with Islam again. And when I get messages like that,

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it drowns out all of the fortunate and unnecessary other types of

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messages. It helps me realize that Subhanallah women just need a

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space to hear other women. And this is really where it kind of

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comes from. The concept of, like, I know this is a discussion that

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shalo will have at some point, but just like, Why do women need to be

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there? Why do women need to accept Quran in public? Why it's like,

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it's not for men to hear us, it's for other woman to have access to

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other women. And right now, social media is really the place where

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women have access. And yes, Hamidah, now we have, you know,

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institutes, but a lot of women don't know about those institutes,

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or they've tried, and those institutes have actually been

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really hurtful to them. And so being a bridge where it's like,

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there are all these options, there are all these institutes.

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So all these women scholars, and this is a place for a woman, and

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men are our allies. Men are our brothers. Men are our guardians.

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They're they're the ones you know. Masha Allah, it's a gift from

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Allah to have men who are supportive of women, just like

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you. Imam. And so many Imams, so many Imams have reached out to me.

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I can't tell you, I can't even count the number of Imams who've

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reached out to me and said, Thank you for doing this. Please keep

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doing this. Let me know how I can support you. It's been such a gift

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to hear this, Hamdulillah, but to know that there are women who are

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like the woman that they see, and that there are Imams who support

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women are accessible to women when maybe they haven't had those

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experiences. Alhamdulillah, being able to have that has been such a

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gift to be a bridge, to be able to help women who are finding their

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voices and finding that healing go back and say, Now I'm ready to

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study. Now I'm ready to really learn my religion. Where do I go?

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And then hamdullah for being able to share your institute, and being

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able to share rubbletha, which is Dr Chairman Grace Institute, Dr

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Aisha Prime's Institute, so many different sheikhas who are here

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And Alhamdulillah. Have found that that healing with Islam,

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Alhamdulillah, Alhamdulillah. So that's, that's the perfect,

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perfect segue. But before, before that, you know, we do have, you

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know, some, some comments from the from the viewers, people asking,

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may Allah elevate and fortify you, instead of the Mariam

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and making Yeah, Alhamdulillah. And also, we have a question up

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here, but Inshallah, we'll wait for to the end Inshallah, because

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we want to get to the crux of the matter, inshallah. And so what you

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mentioned at the end, right there, is what we want to kind of move

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into. And so let's talk about women reciting in front of non men

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in public, right? It can be a very controversial topic to talk about

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at times, but

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it doesn't have to be, does it? Right? You know? It's like, I just

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got a message yesterday when I posted my

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posted the flyer for this live on Instagram, and, you know, all

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over, and a sister randomly doesn't follow me, right? I had to

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accept the message. She messaged me, and she gave me this whole

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thing, and was like, you know, pretty simple, no, right? She put,

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actually, she commented on the thing. Pretty simple, no. And then

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she sent me this whole thing, and some video, some screenshot of a

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fatwa from some Sheik, who said the voice of women is aura, and

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she's like, the women's voice is aura and this and that. And I had

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said something really short in response to her, nothing like

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disrespectful, polite and everything. And then she sent,

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like, this whole slew and, you know, and it was, like, very,

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like, very passionate about this, right? And so, so, yeah, I wanted

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to, I wanted to ask you, like, what you know, what? What's the

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deal with that? Do you know? Do you know anything about, sort of,

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like, where this come from, and how it became kind of this, kind

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of, like, the dominant sort of, sort of theme, but if anything,

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just kind of, you know, enlighten us about this topic in general.

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Inshallah, please educate us.

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It's interesting that when we talk about it as a controversial issue,

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it's controversial here for us, because the way that our

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communities were founded from the from the majority immigrant Muslim

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community, there were certain cultural norms and understandings

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from Phil that were brought in and established, and they kind of

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became a dominant discussion on how particular norms were

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acceptable. But when we look at Indonesia or Malaysia or Singapore

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or Algeria or Morocco or so many different parts of the

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different parts of the of Muslim majority countries, and also

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countries that are not Muslim majority, like Nigeria, but the

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concept of how women recite in different areas are, are it's not

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controversial there because it's the norm, because it's been their

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norm for centuries. And so really, when, when, when I first came

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across this, it was because I went to my masjid, and there was a high

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school student who was reciting the Quran, who was a girl who the

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the director of the of Dawa had asked to recite for an event

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geared towards non Muslims, and when I saw a woman reciting the

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first and last time I've ever seen it at my masjid, I was so shocked,

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and I went to her and I said, you know, this is haram, like, It's

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haram for a woman to recite.

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I know she's a girl, yeah. I was like, I know she's a teenager,

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but, and I know you're, you're, it's for non Muslims, like I get

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you're trying to ignore to them, but this is haram, and may Allah

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bless her. She's from Indonesia. She's like,

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in Indonesia we have women Quran reciters who recite on TV and in

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competitions. This is normal in Indonesia. She's like, maybe it's

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a difference of opinion that you're not aware of. That moment

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just shocked me.

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Me a difference of opinion on this, but I've only ever heard

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that it's haram. And then when I went to Egypt to study, I walked

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into mashal Azhar in meshul Azhar itself, not some random, you know,

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I don't know, program that everyone is saying a lot this is

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happening. No in meshul alz, one of the most famous Quran reciters

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of the time, was sitting so humbly, men on one side in front

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of him, women on the other side in front of him, all of them in front

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there wasn't a barrier between them. He was reciting an ayah.

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They were all reciting back hundreds of people. I could never

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seen something like this before, to be in such a historic masjid, a

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place, a bastion of knowledge, and to see this there I was just I

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didn't ask how. I was taken aback. And then started studying with

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Sheik Moheb. The way that I was introduced to this formally was

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Sheik Mohib told me, Miriam, you need to recite at our welcome back

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banquet. And I was like, Chef, I'm a woman. And he was like, he got

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so angry at me. He is the one who introduced this to me from a

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formal perspective. He said, Do you know how many women have

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taught men Quran? Do you know how many of Quran reciters have been

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women throughout Islamic history? This is our legacy. And then he

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taught me about a blue boss. It's teacher who was a woman. And he

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said that, you know, this might not be he said, actually, this is

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what he said. He said, If men have a problem with it at the banquet,

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they can walk out of the room.

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That, for me, so powerful. The solution, if someone has an issue

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with it is simply they can walk out of the room.

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Pamela, so I recited because my chef is like, Listen, you got to

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recite because you have to show other women in that room that

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you're not, that you're not out of that you're born and raised in the

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United States, that you can do it, and they can do it too. And what

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happened that day in the banquet, I recited. The men listened. Some

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of them looked down. Some of them watched. I don't know, to be

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honest, I wasn't looking at them, but I'm assuming. And you know,

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what happened to the woman?

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So many women came up to me and said, I want to do it too,

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like the path that then I traveled all throughout the UK with Al

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guruj Press. They had me and esthetic Jinnah and Yusuf going

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and giving lectures to women and all of these different cities. And

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over and over, I would say, in Quran, in these all women's

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spaces. And all of these women were coming to me after, and they

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were in tears. And these are women between their 20s to their 50s

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saying that they had never heard a woman recite the Quran before. And

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had they known women can recite the Quran, they would have tried

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to memorize the Quran as well. And a woman in her 50s is telling me

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she's never heard a woman recite the Quran till this program,

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crying, asking me, How can I do it too. Wow. Like, how can you live

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all of these decades thinking? Subhan Allah, this is only for

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men. And I kept hearing that from women that this, they've been told

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that because they're going to have children, potentially, they're not

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going to have time to review the Quran. There's no point of

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becoming Quran memorizers, because they're never going to lead Tara.

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We had a masjid. There's no point of memorizing the Quran. They

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consistently were told this. And so these the whole this is the

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culture when it's the it's not just one or two people when that's

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the culture. When you're hearing this, when the culture is you

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don't see women reciting, and you don't know women recite, and then

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people tell you this, you just accept, okay, maybe it's not

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funny, but Subhan Allah. When you hear about women in Islamic

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history who are Quran reciters, it's so powerful to see that Imam

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is we have umani who was reciting the Quran, and so her recitation

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moved him, and he, he, he mentioned being emotionally moved

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by her recitation. We looking at the fiqh, there is this concept of

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a woman's voice is out of but where does that come from? Because

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even contemporary scholars like Ibn say, mean Rahima hola Ibn

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AHIMA Allah, he mentioned that the refute, the refute, to refute this

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issue in and of itself, is in the Quran, because the Quran itself,

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says philatum, the Quran itself is giving a guideline for how to

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speak. So women are speaking and Imam Al Ghazali, Rahim Allah,

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Muhammad Al Razali Rahim Allah. He talks about how

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za the daughter of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam,

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waited until the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam

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started praying Salah talm, and they were praying, and then she

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called out and asked for the protection of her husband. Alas,

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before.

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He became Muslim. And after the Salah, the Prophet sallallahu,

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alayhi wasallam hadn't was was talking to the companion, saying

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that he had no idea that she was going to be saying this. And he

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talked to her afterwards about what that it was haram for her to

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use her voice while they were praying out loud when people could

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hear no it had nothing to do with her voice, and everything to do

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with the rulings of Alas, staying with her. And then he went to the

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other companions and worked with the rulings of the situation. In

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no time did the fact that she used her voice come up. There are too

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many. There are hundreds of narrations of women using their

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voices, sometimes shouting, sometimes speaking quietly, and

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the Prophet sallallahu, alayhi wa sallam never said to any of them

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that you should not speak. So to say that the voice of a woman is a

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awra is not it's not factually correct. Where did that come?

00:35:55 --> 00:35:58

Where did the idea even come from? Sometimes we have statements that

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become popularized in a particular community that maybe from a

00:36:03 --> 00:36:07

scholar, or maybe from a someone making Dawa who was trying to

00:36:07 --> 00:36:10

encourage good, who's trying to support good, maybe they saw

00:36:10 --> 00:36:14

something in society and they said, Okay, this is going to lead

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to harm. We're going to close that door, and we're going to say all

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of it is haram. Maybe that's where it started. But the problem with

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this is that in in our text itself, it it refutes that point.

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So the the concept of a woman's voice in general, being awra is

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not something that we see in our religion. Now, as to actual

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recitation, a lot of people could say, Yeah, we're not talking about

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her speaking. We're talking about her reciting. Where does that come

00:36:40 --> 00:36:46

from? Let's look at the ayah I just mentioned that fella, the

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part of the verse that is used for from the from the scholars and

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those who say that is haram for a woman to recite. They use that

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part of us. But look at the different interpretations of this

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ayah. Imam as to UTI mentions that they shouldn't speak. They should

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speak quietly. They should speak and not not speak in a soft we

00:37:04 --> 00:37:05

lower their voices.

00:37:06 --> 00:37:10

Other scholars from Beverly to or to

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be they have different understandings of what this means,

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all of them, ranging in different ways beyond what the second part

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of the verses fayal bihi mural, who is the one who has a disease

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in their heart? Is it a person, a man who is listening to a woman's

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voice reciting the Quran and he is finding himself remembering Allah?

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Or is it someone who has hypocrisy in their heart? So be concerned

00:37:46 --> 00:37:49

that if you're going to say something Doctor Muhammad arimara,

00:37:49 --> 00:37:53

he mentions this, he's, he's a he's the sheik of one of my

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teachers from Allah mentions this verse isn't about being

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what's the word

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seductive? This verse is about not,

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not giving someone a way into the Muslim community if they have

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hypocrisy, if they're willing to use that against Muslims. We're

00:38:14 --> 00:38:18

not talking about hypocrisy. I someone who prays, but they don't

00:38:18 --> 00:38:20

really want to pray, and they wonder if they're a hypocrite. No,

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we're talking about in the time of the Prophet sallallahu, some

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hypocrites who are actively trying to bring down the Muslim

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community. These are different types of interpretation of that

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specific ayah. There are, there's not an ijma of what this verse

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means. So if there's not a an ijma, if there's not all the

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scholars agree that it means that a woman's voice shouldn't be

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heard. We say the Quran in a beautiful way, then where are we

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going to get that? We're going to look at the words of the Prophet

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sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. There's no Hadith of the Prophet

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sallallahu alayhi wasam saying this. In fact, in Muslim Imam

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Ahmed, he passed by a woman reciting he passed by a woman's

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home. She was reciting sura. He heard the first ayah, and he

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responded in an emotional way, yes, it has come to me. Yes, it

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has come to me. And Imam shakiti, he talks about this narration, and

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he mentions that it is permissible for women to recite the Quran,

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even if there are men who are going to hear her reciting in a

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beautiful way, unless there is a fear of fitna. And this is really

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where this is based, in the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa salam

00:39:23 --> 00:39:25

himself is hearing a woman reciting. He's not telling her

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that she shouldn't recite. And people have said, Oh, that was in

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her home. That's different. It's not he's the Prophet sallallahu

00:39:31 --> 00:39:34

alayhi wa salam. We have so many narrations of women's voices

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carrying out of their home, the famous narration of amah who heard

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a mother and a daughter talking about being just in what they were

00:39:42 --> 00:39:46

selling, and that led to him asking one of his sons to propose

00:39:46 --> 00:39:51

to the daughter like we have women here. The woman's voice is being

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heard outside of their homes they didn't live in, like homes that

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were completely isolated and sound so the point is that when we you.

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Are looking at the Prophet sallallahu alayhi salam is a

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legislator of law. If the Prophet sallallahu, alayhi wasallam is

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hearing a woman's voice outside of her home, we send the Quran. If

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that was haram, he has to speak on it. He is a legislator of law. He

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he has to say something instead, Salla Salam, he found the verses

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to be emotionally moving for him so Allah, it is impossible to

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think that woman, in the time of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi

00:40:27 --> 00:40:29

salam, who were learning Quran, who the woman themselves said that

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they memorize all of Surah, suraka, or or, or different surah

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of the Quran from hearing the Prophet sallallahu alayhi salam,

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that they weren't recital Quran. They literally live in the time of

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Revelation. They are our foremothers. They literally lived

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witnessing the revelation. Is it possible to think that the only

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way they recited was whispering, that no one else would hear them?

00:40:49 --> 00:40:54

They taught the Quran? We know that the Companions would go to

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ask um Ayman radila anha would Amar and Abu Bakr Al dilawah came

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to visit um Aman after the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasam had passed

00:41:00 --> 00:41:03

away, and she started to cry. And they said, Why are you crying?

00:41:03 --> 00:41:05

Don't you know that what is with Allah is better for the Prophet

00:41:05 --> 00:41:09

sallallahu alayhi wa sallam? And she said, I'm not crying because I

00:41:09 --> 00:41:11

don't know that what is with Allah is better for the Prophet

00:41:11 --> 00:41:15

sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, I'm crying because the revelation has

00:41:15 --> 00:41:19

been cut off from the heavens. And so they both started to cry, and

00:41:19 --> 00:41:23

all three of them cried together. That connection with the Quran was

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something that the woman companions had, radila. And so

00:41:26 --> 00:41:29

then when we look at, where does this come from? It's the concept

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of, said, of the Royal which is blocking the means to evil,

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blocking the means to evil before it can become

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a form of evil. Now, when we look at scholars from the past, Imam

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Abu jaidemi, centuries ago, he was a great scholar from the chef here

00:41:49 --> 00:41:50

in meth, he says

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that it if a man is going to find Forgive me for being explicit,

00:41:57 --> 00:42:00

because this isn't just finding a woman's voice beautiful when she

00:42:00 --> 00:42:05

recites Quran, he talks about, if he's going to be turned on by

00:42:05 --> 00:42:09

listening to a woman recite the Quran, it is haram. And if that's

00:42:09 --> 00:42:12

not going to happen, then it's not haram.

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Says the same thing. It is haram for a man, the same idea for a

00:42:19 --> 00:42:22

woman's voice. Walo with the recitation of the Quran.

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It's from if this is going to happen, who do these scholars put

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the responsibility on? They put the responsibility on men who are

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listening, who find this happening to them fearful. Be he moral. It's

00:42:37 --> 00:42:40

not fearful. Be He, oh, he's thinking mashaAllah, her

00:42:40 --> 00:42:43

recitation is beautiful. He's coming closer to Allah. No

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SubhanAllah. Shel haniti, who I was so blessed to interview, from

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Spain, she's established a school that's that works in Spanish,

00:42:52 --> 00:42:57

teaching Quran to women and men. She's She went to Morocco to study

00:42:57 --> 00:42:59

Islam and come back and establish a school because there was nothing

00:42:59 --> 00:43:04

in Spanish for native Spanish speakers and Subhanallah, she said

00:43:04 --> 00:43:10

fiocalbihi mural. It's somebody who had a Zs in their heart. It's

00:43:10 --> 00:43:13

not some random person. Not every man listening is going to have a

00:43:13 --> 00:43:15

disease in his heart. If you're listening to the Quran and you

00:43:15 --> 00:43:19

find yourself turned on by that, that's a disease. So this is who

00:43:19 --> 00:43:24

the verse is addressing. So over and over, the scholars who address

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this issue with permissibility say the responsibility is on the man

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to scroll away, to stop listening, to walk out of the room. Not haram

00:43:32 --> 00:43:38

on all women to stop reciting. And when we talk to the scholars

00:43:38 --> 00:43:42

today, the men scholars and the women's scholars in Morocco and

00:43:42 --> 00:43:47

Algeria and Malaysia, these are countries, if you look like if you

00:43:47 --> 00:43:50

scroll through my page on Instagram, at the Miriam Amir T, A

00:43:50 --> 00:43:55

E, M, A R, Y, a m, a m, I R, you'll see so many interviews with

00:43:55 --> 00:44:01

women who are on TV, Who are on competitions, reciting Quran with

00:44:01 --> 00:44:05

major Quran scholars because they are major Quran scholars who are

00:44:05 --> 00:44:10

men and the scholars of these communities, they don't

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when I asked them when I when I've interviewed women who've come on

00:44:14 --> 00:44:17

and I said, like, what is it like for a woman? They'd say, they'd

00:44:17 --> 00:44:21

say to me something like, you know, maybe in California, this

00:44:21 --> 00:44:26

isn't the norm, but this is normal here. Women, Recep Quran, women,

00:44:26 --> 00:44:29

Recep Quran, with men and women win competitions over men. That's

00:44:29 --> 00:44:33

our norm. And for me, that was so powerful because they have,

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I'm so sorry to say this, but they have. They have removed any sort

00:44:40 --> 00:44:41

of the concept of, I

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don't even want to use the word

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making the Quran anything other than undivine. The Quran for them

00:44:50 --> 00:44:51

is Quran.

00:44:53 --> 00:44:54

Thank you.

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It's just focusing on the revelation of the word.

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Of Allah. The beauty of the recitation, it's not about who is

00:45:05 --> 00:45:10

reciting. It's not sexualizing Abu DHA recitation. It's it's part of

00:45:10 --> 00:45:15

focusing with Quran. Now, of course, there are scholars who

00:45:15 --> 00:45:19

made the opinions that it's going to lead to fitna, if men listen,

00:45:19 --> 00:45:23

it's going to lead to doors of fitna being opened. If men have

00:45:23 --> 00:45:27

access to this and hear women are reciting, no worries. If that's

00:45:27 --> 00:45:30

the opinion that someone wants to take, that's totally fine. This is

00:45:30 --> 00:45:35

a difference of opinion. Donald IFTA and in Jordan and in Egypt

00:45:35 --> 00:45:38

said the same thing, that is permissible for one to recite. Men

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are the ones to hold the responsibility, unless there's

00:45:41 --> 00:45:44

fitna, if there's a concern of fitna. So when we're talking about

00:45:44 --> 00:45:46

fitna, what is a concern of fitna? We're worried that there's going

00:45:46 --> 00:45:49

to be a man who's going to hear a woman reciting, and something

00:45:49 --> 00:45:52

could happen inside of him. This is a problem, of course, but

00:45:52 --> 00:45:55

closing the door completely for women, it's recitation is where we

00:45:55 --> 00:45:59

are right now, women who are leaving our religion, women who've

00:45:59 --> 00:46:02

never memorized the Quran or even thought about it, because they

00:46:02 --> 00:46:05

thought it was for men women who don't feel like they have a space

00:46:05 --> 00:46:08

in Islam because they've never heard a woman reside in the Quran

00:46:08 --> 00:46:11

before. And as I mentioned, I hear from these women in the hundreds

00:46:11 --> 00:46:16

weekly. So this isn't some obscure reality that someone is making up

00:46:16 --> 00:46:19

in my head. These are women from all around the world saying for

00:46:19 --> 00:46:23

the first time in my life, for the first time in my life, and she's

00:46:23 --> 00:46:27

saying that she's in her 40s, that she messaged me saying I recited

00:46:27 --> 00:46:32

the Quran for my parents, and we all wept for the first time in my

00:46:32 --> 00:46:36

life. I'm reciting the Quran for my children. I'm reciting the

00:46:36 --> 00:46:40

Quran for my children. I never knew I could recite out loud. That

00:46:40 --> 00:46:42

might seem shocking to some people, but that's the culture for

00:46:42 --> 00:46:48

some people. So the point is, for me, at least here. The point for

00:46:48 --> 00:46:51

me is not like some people say, Why? Like, why do you why are you

00:46:51 --> 00:46:55

obsessed with women being equal to men in Quran and recitation? I'm

00:46:55 --> 00:47:00

like, that's your pitch that comes from you. I'm saying women need

00:47:00 --> 00:47:04

access to other women to recite the Quran. If men here women on

00:47:04 --> 00:47:07

social media and have a problem, they can scroll away from him,

00:47:07 --> 00:47:12

because we have women like in Ilhan Asmaa, which is a book that

00:47:12 --> 00:47:15

was overlooked al Hana in Hannah said that was overlooked by iba.

00:47:16 --> 00:47:20

It was written by a Sarah Denny. He talks about women reciters of

00:47:20 --> 00:47:24

Egypt from the time of Muhammad besha, the Ottoman ruler, the

00:47:24 --> 00:47:28

ruler in the 1800s how a woman would come and be the Quran

00:47:28 --> 00:47:31

reciter for the court. She's buried by Imam ashefari, Rahima,

00:47:31 --> 00:47:34

Allah rahimahamu, Allah SubhanAllah. We have women who are

00:47:34 --> 00:47:37

Quran reciters, who are actively part of the Egyptian culture of

00:47:37 --> 00:47:41

Quran recitation that stopped because of a fatwa that was passed

00:47:41 --> 00:47:43

by Al Azhar in the mid 1900s

00:47:45 --> 00:47:50

and then women's recitation stopped publicly in Egypt. And now

00:47:50 --> 00:47:53

the the daughter, if that in Egypt, has reversed and has

00:47:53 --> 00:47:57

changed that position. But the point is, when we're talking about

00:47:58 --> 00:48:02

women reciting, where does it? Where does the Haram part come

00:48:02 --> 00:48:06

from? It's based in the concept of preventing fitna. If we're in a

00:48:06 --> 00:48:10

community, if we're in a society, if we're in a culture where women

00:48:10 --> 00:48:13

reciting could truly bring fitna, then absolutely we should prevent

00:48:13 --> 00:48:17

it 100% I'm not addressing the culture of Saudi Arabia. I'm not

00:48:17 --> 00:48:19

addressing the culture of different places that might have

00:48:19 --> 00:48:23

that concern. I don't know what Saudis culture is with this, but

00:48:23 --> 00:48:28

here in the United States, where women have access to the Wap Song,

00:48:28 --> 00:48:33

and they're finding that to be empowering, yes, I want women to

00:48:33 --> 00:48:37

hear other women reciting, because the greater fitna is that women

00:48:37 --> 00:48:41

are leaving and they're not coming back. And that is the fitna that I

00:48:41 --> 00:48:44

think we need to start prioritizing. Because once we

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focus on that as a priority, we can, Inshallah, start seeing women

00:48:49 --> 00:48:53

feeling like the true gift of Islam that Allah has blessed us

00:48:53 --> 00:48:57

with. Subhan, Allah is such a gift to be a Muslim woman, and people

00:48:57 --> 00:49:01

say that, and they don't realize that pain women go through in our

00:49:01 --> 00:49:06

community, sometimes, so many Imam so many communities are actively

00:49:06 --> 00:49:09

focusing on access to women and inshallah. More and more that will

00:49:09 --> 00:49:11

happen, and we'll start to see the shift for your daughter's

00:49:11 --> 00:49:15

generation and my son's generation, so that they will grow

00:49:15 --> 00:49:17

up with a healed space inshallah.

00:49:18 --> 00:49:20

Inshallah. Inshallah. You

00:49:22 --> 00:49:25

got. Me emotional over here. I'm over here trying to keep it

00:49:25 --> 00:49:28

together. Thank you, sis. I really appreciate you sharing that. Got a

00:49:28 --> 00:49:32

lot of excitement in the comment section. A little pushback, but

00:49:32 --> 00:49:35

nothing, nothing major. One of one of our our viewers, was saying

00:49:36 --> 00:49:39

that she, she, she was of the opinion she was kind of taking

00:49:39 --> 00:49:42

more of a, sort of, like a middle ground, right? So she wasn't

00:49:42 --> 00:49:45

saying It's haram, but she's saying that it's, it's, it's

00:49:45 --> 00:49:48

permissible, but they can't use makamats because they're

00:49:48 --> 00:49:53

beautifying their voice if they use, if they use the Makah mat.

00:49:54 --> 00:49:54

And then,

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and then she said, yeah, basically what you were saying the.

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That's fitna for other men and then. But if it's a situation

00:50:04 --> 00:50:08

where a man can't find another man who is fully qualified and has

00:50:08 --> 00:50:13

mastered all the rules of tejui, then it's okay for him. Then in

00:50:13 --> 00:50:18

that sort of extreme case, to to take a female teacher, but I think

00:50:18 --> 00:50:21

you just addressed a lot of that. But if there's anything in the

00:50:21 --> 00:50:24

comment, you know what you want me to let you read the the comment.

00:50:24 --> 00:50:25

You want to see it,

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and you maybe you can address it this way. Oh, sure.

00:50:31 --> 00:50:35

The issue is that reading with me, Matt, the rhythm, the do it

00:50:35 --> 00:50:39

purposely, and this something makes fit enough for other men.

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But what but reading with rules of tijuri Clearly, with tension of

00:50:44 --> 00:50:47

teaching without going up and down and making like music with your

00:50:47 --> 00:50:49

voice, that's the problem. And sometimes it goes to the point

00:50:49 --> 00:50:52

that they say Allah like they are amused by isaana the Quran.

00:50:52 --> 00:50:55

Actually, this is a really good point, and thank you for

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mentioning this. So there is this. There is a difference between

00:50:59 --> 00:51:05

recitation in mat being used in a way that follows the tijuid rules

00:51:05 --> 00:51:10

and is for expressing the meaning of the verses versus actually

00:51:10 --> 00:51:14

taking as a song. And when scholars talk, when scholars talk

00:51:14 --> 00:51:17

about women not reciting in public, this is one of the points

00:51:17 --> 00:51:21

they make. Don't sing the Quran. But this is not specifically for

00:51:21 --> 00:51:24

women. Men do this as well. Sometimes you hear the Quran being

00:51:24 --> 00:51:28

sung like a song that's problematic men and women. The

00:51:28 --> 00:51:32

Quran is not a song. It has rules. Makama is different, though. Maka

00:51:32 --> 00:51:35

mat is a different discussion completely that we don't have time

00:51:35 --> 00:51:38

to get into right now. But the point is that I encourage, I

00:51:38 --> 00:51:43

encourage anyone listening to go and listen to the woman who I've

00:51:44 --> 00:51:46

interviewed from Singapore. Her name is

00:51:47 --> 00:51:52

shehami and also we have water Hassan, Sheikha, Warda Hassan,

00:51:52 --> 00:51:59

from Indonesia and from Malaysia, their recitations with med. I just

00:51:59 --> 00:52:02

want you to listen to them. You will find yourself on a different

00:52:02 --> 00:52:05

level. Different level. You will realize Quran is different from

00:52:05 --> 00:52:09

what you've experienced before, and this is so parallel there. The

00:52:09 --> 00:52:13

recitations is just so beautiful to hear and having to that we had,

00:52:13 --> 00:52:16

you know, I I've been so blessed and grateful to to interview women

00:52:16 --> 00:52:19

from so many different parts of the world. We have women from

00:52:19 --> 00:52:23

Bosnia to The Gambia. We have women from Australia to

00:52:25 --> 00:52:29

Canada. We have women from Nigeria to, I

00:52:30 --> 00:52:34

can't remember any countries right now, Algeria, like literally all

00:52:34 --> 00:52:37

different parts of the world. And in all of these, all of these

00:52:37 --> 00:52:41

different parts, their recitations, like the recitation

00:52:41 --> 00:52:45

of the shekha from Sudan was completely different from the

00:52:45 --> 00:52:51

recitation of a shekha from Morocco. Their styles are

00:52:51 --> 00:52:55

different, and it comes with this, and it's all still within our

00:52:55 --> 00:53:00

tradition. It's all still completely based in traditional

00:53:00 --> 00:53:04

understanding of Quran. It's just so powerful to see all the

00:53:04 --> 00:53:07

different tests of recitation, and none of them are singing the

00:53:07 --> 00:53:10

Quran, right without the rules of teaching they're using. Oh,

00:53:10 --> 00:53:13

alright, go ahead. Tell me. No, no, no, tell me what. What is your

00:53:13 --> 00:53:16

like? Ethnic background? I actually thought you were out of

00:53:16 --> 00:53:20

right, but I noticed that when you did your interviews in Arabic.

00:53:20 --> 00:53:23

They were always in fusha, and you never really spoke the dialect,

00:53:23 --> 00:53:26

even when the people were speaking the dialect back. So I was like, I

00:53:27 --> 00:53:30

was like, I wonder if she's like Arab, or if she's like, you know,

00:53:30 --> 00:53:34

if she's like Arab, but like, grew up without, like, like, not having

00:53:34 --> 00:53:38

learned Arabic, and then just kind of learned fusha later. I just

00:53:38 --> 00:53:41

noticed that. So then you said you're not out of and so I now

00:53:41 --> 00:53:42

have absolutely no idea.

00:53:45 --> 00:53:45

Yeah,

00:53:47 --> 00:53:50

I actually this is so funny. I never like talk about this, but

00:53:50 --> 00:53:54

it's fine. My parent my my ethnic background is Persian, but my

00:53:54 --> 00:53:58

parents were very my parents were kids when they came to the United

00:53:58 --> 00:54:03

States, and so I wasn't raised with the culture at all.

00:54:04 --> 00:54:07

I wasn't raised speaking it. I wasn't raised with the cultural

00:54:07 --> 00:54:11

part at all. And Alhamdulillah, you know, they really found his

00:54:11 --> 00:54:14

time in college. Every single one of my relatives married someone of

00:54:14 --> 00:54:18

a different race. Alhamdulillah, we are so blessed. We have, like

00:54:18 --> 00:54:22

Masha, Allah, like so many different races in my family, and

00:54:22 --> 00:54:24

Alhamdulillah, oblami, the majority of my family members are

00:54:24 --> 00:54:27

converts, or they're not Muslim, but they, you know, our family

00:54:27 --> 00:54:31

members who we love so much, and So alhamdulillah, it's such a gift

00:54:31 --> 00:54:36

that really, I don't identify ethnically with my culture, with

00:54:36 --> 00:54:39

that with I don't that's not my culture, like with the culture

00:54:39 --> 00:54:43

that I Guess people would ask me from, where my background is from,

00:54:43 --> 00:54:46

but Alhamdulillah, my family itself being from so many

00:54:46 --> 00:54:51

different racial backgrounds, like my extended family, who were very,

00:54:51 --> 00:54:55

very Alhamdulillah, like we, that is my tribe. That's really, that's

00:54:55 --> 00:54:56

really like, kind of where my

00:54:57 --> 00:54:59

I guess my upbringing came from. That was.

00:55:00 --> 00:55:03

So awkward. I never talk about myself personally like that. It's

00:55:03 --> 00:55:07

cool. No, no. I mean, that's great. I mean, it's nice to know.

00:55:07 --> 00:55:07

I mean,

00:55:08 --> 00:55:12

especially because you know where this video, this interview, is

00:55:12 --> 00:55:16

going to reach a diverse crowd as well. And so to hear that you know

00:55:16 --> 00:55:20

that you know this, this Quran, can reach people outside of a

00:55:20 --> 00:55:22

certain you know, particular demographic, someone who's, you

00:55:22 --> 00:55:26

know, someone and so forth coming up in this in a society like

00:55:26 --> 00:55:29

theirs, you know, it's something that could possibly be a source of

00:55:29 --> 00:55:32

inspiration. Inshallah. So thank you for sharing that. Appreciate

00:55:32 --> 00:55:38

that. So since we only got about four minutes left, I do, I have

00:55:38 --> 00:55:42

one question in the crowd from the audience, and I have one question

00:55:42 --> 00:55:45

that I wanted to ask you, so hopefully we can have enough time

00:55:45 --> 00:55:49

and get you on your way, on your way, and not hold you up.

00:55:49 --> 00:55:50

Inshallah,

00:55:51 --> 00:55:56

so we have a question here on the screen, if you want to go, go for

00:55:56 --> 00:55:57

that. Inshallah,

00:55:59 --> 00:56:02

how much Arabic Did you know prior to memorizing? How much do you

00:56:02 --> 00:56:04

recommend a person to know? I knew no Arabic before I started

00:56:04 --> 00:56:07

memorizing, I knew about Alhamdulillah and mashallah and

00:56:07 --> 00:56:12

Jannah. I would recommend that you, I would recommend that you

00:56:12 --> 00:56:16

read a translation while you are trying to memorize. Like again, I

00:56:16 --> 00:56:19

started memorizing by the transliteration. I didn't know how

00:56:19 --> 00:56:24

to read Arabic like I did barely. So just reading the

00:56:24 --> 00:56:29

transliteration is really helpful. I mean, the translation is really

00:56:29 --> 00:56:32

helpful, so that as you're memorizing the verses, you start

00:56:32 --> 00:56:35

knowing kind of what the general messages are. But before I started

00:56:35 --> 00:56:38

memorizing, I spent a few years just like listening in Arabic,

00:56:38 --> 00:56:41

reading in Arabic. Like reading it while I listen, following along

00:56:41 --> 00:56:44

with the with the reading, so that I could kind of keep up a little

00:56:44 --> 00:56:47

bit so I accustomed my ears to like Abdul boss. It's recitation a

00:56:47 --> 00:56:52

lot, just like hearing his recitation and being able to read

00:56:52 --> 00:56:54

the translation at the same time. I recommend you start as soon as

00:56:54 --> 00:56:58

you can Mashallah. There are, you know, you could take classes and

00:56:58 --> 00:57:01

roll with the measured tones Institute. Measure tones.

00:57:01 --> 00:57:02

Institute is a great place to start

00:57:04 --> 00:57:07

memorizing right now. You don't need to know Arabic to memorize

00:57:07 --> 00:57:10

the Quran. Definitely. You can start from now. If you're going to

00:57:10 --> 00:57:14

say, I need to know Arabic until, like before I start in the next 10

00:57:14 --> 00:57:16

years. If you don't know Arabic, what are you are you going to say?

00:57:16 --> 00:57:18

I'm going to wait. And then you're 80, and then you're 90, and, oh,

00:57:18 --> 00:57:21

it's kind of a little I never learned Arabic. I never was like,

00:57:21 --> 00:57:24

No. Start now. Inshallah, you will get you will get there. Inshallah.

00:57:24 --> 00:57:27

Alhamdulillah. Alhamdulillah. Thank you so much for that amazing

00:57:27 --> 00:57:31

advice for sha Allah. So my question, and hopefully the final

00:57:31 --> 00:57:31

question,

00:57:33 --> 00:57:37

is, what advice do you have for young, aspiring students, slash

00:57:37 --> 00:57:41

reciters, of Quran or anyone who wants to pursue Quran studies,

00:57:41 --> 00:57:44

regardless of gender. But I mean, if you wanted to specifically send

00:57:44 --> 00:57:45

a message to

00:57:48 --> 00:57:52

young women young girls about this, then you can do that as

00:57:52 --> 00:57:54

well. However you want to give that advice in

00:57:57 --> 00:58:00

Shaw, I'm so sorry your voice cut out a little bit. Can you restate

00:58:00 --> 00:58:02

the question for me. I heard something about little girls and

00:58:02 --> 00:58:06

little Oh, sorry, I said. I said, What? What advice do you have?

00:58:08 --> 00:58:11

Sorry about that. I said, What advice do you have for young,

00:58:11 --> 00:58:15

aspiring students, slash reciters of Quran or anyone who wants to

00:58:15 --> 00:58:19

pursue Quranic studies, regardless of gender, or if you want to

00:58:19 --> 00:58:22

specific, specifically talk to young girls as well in your

00:58:22 --> 00:58:24

message. I mean, that's fine, you know, however you want to package

00:58:24 --> 00:58:28

that message. What advice do you have for people who who want to

00:58:28 --> 00:58:32

Well, you you just said the thing about the transliteration, right?

00:58:32 --> 00:58:35

But if there was some other kind of message you wanted to direct

00:58:35 --> 00:58:40

towards, you know, some aspiring young reciters? Inshallah, please

00:58:40 --> 00:58:42

do give that advice.

00:58:43 --> 00:58:47

There is going to be so many times where you feel alone, where you

00:58:47 --> 00:58:50

feel like, maybe you want to give up, maybe you feel like, why am I

00:58:50 --> 00:58:55

even doing this? Always remember that the one you are doing it for

00:58:55 --> 00:58:59

sees everything that you're doing. He is a Shakur. He is the

00:58:59 --> 00:59:03

appreciative. He remembers what you do 10 years after you do it,

00:59:03 --> 00:59:07

when you've completely forgotten about it, not a single moment of

00:59:07 --> 00:59:11

your frustration, your isolation, your tears, are going to be

00:59:11 --> 00:59:15

missed. There are times when you're on the path of knowledge

00:59:15 --> 00:59:18

where you feel like you have to give certain things up,

00:59:19 --> 00:59:24

give it up, but ask Allah to replace it with something better

00:59:24 --> 00:59:29

for you. Find a community who can support you in your process online

00:59:29 --> 00:59:32

right now. Measure tones, Institute Rubble, talk suhaib.com

00:59:33 --> 00:59:39

there are so many institutes that have teachers and a community who

00:59:39 --> 00:59:42

will support you so you won't be alone. Find a Teacher to work

00:59:42 --> 00:59:45

with, find mentors to work with. It's so critical, because when

00:59:45 --> 00:59:47

you're going through this process on your own, you're going to hear

00:59:47 --> 00:59:51

a lot of things, especially if you're a woman, you're going to

00:59:51 --> 00:59:54

hear a lot of things about what you should be doing, what you

00:59:54 --> 00:59:57

shouldn't be doing, and you're going to get confused. So find

00:59:57 --> 00:59:59

people who will help you navigate what your reality looks like.

01:00:00 --> 01:00:03

Where you are, because it does make a difference if you're

01:00:03 --> 01:00:06

studying in the United States versus if you're studying

01:00:06 --> 01:00:08

somewhere else, the culture is going to impact the way certain

01:00:08 --> 01:00:11

rulings are made. So look at your reality. Speak to scholars in your

01:00:11 --> 01:00:14

locale, and work with institutes who can help support you. And

01:00:14 --> 01:00:19

remember that Allah, Panama, taala, his door is always open. So

01:00:19 --> 01:00:23

constantly make dua, constantly, ask constantly knock on that door.

01:00:24 --> 01:00:27

And every such day that you make pray that Allah opens the doors of

01:00:27 --> 01:00:31

the Quran for you, every single time you break your fast, make

01:00:31 --> 01:00:34

that constantly, make that dua, the Allah will open the doors of

01:00:34 --> 01:00:37

knowledge for you, and the doors of wisdom and the doors of action

01:00:37 --> 01:00:42

and the doors of sincerity. And remember that the road is

01:00:42 --> 01:00:47

lifelong. I know nothing. I know this. I literally know nothing.

01:00:47 --> 01:00:51

I've been studying for 17 years. I know nothing, nothing. And

01:00:51 --> 01:00:52

sometimes when I'm

01:00:54 --> 01:00:56

I think, Hannah, you know, I've been focusing on these issues, and

01:00:56 --> 01:00:59

so I know a little bit about those, but this nothing. I've

01:00:59 --> 01:01:03

literally nothing. So remember that it's okay to know nothing.

01:01:03 --> 01:01:07

It's that's part of the journey. But remember that, Inshallah, the

01:01:07 --> 01:01:13

more that go, you know, go on the journey, that the responsibility

01:01:13 --> 01:01:16

that you have is heavy, and the question is, what are you going to

01:01:16 --> 01:01:19

do with that responsibility once you're done? And that's a question

01:01:19 --> 01:01:21

I get all the time for women, especially, what do I do with

01:01:21 --> 01:01:24

this? Like, I can't become an Imam, so like, what do I do? And

01:01:24 --> 01:01:27

that's really where the responsibility falls on

01:01:27 --> 01:01:30

communities to start creating spaces for women teachers, to

01:01:30 --> 01:01:34

ensure that the Imam hires a woman teacher who can teach women to to

01:01:34 --> 01:01:38

have these spaces where women know that they can study and come back

01:01:38 --> 01:01:41

and teach. So that's a completely different discussion, but that's

01:01:41 --> 01:01:43

something that we need to work as well to Inshallah, create these

01:01:43 --> 01:01:46

spaces where women can use this knowledge and teach other women.

01:01:46 --> 01:01:46

Inshallah,

01:01:47 --> 01:01:52

yeah, sorry, my audio, it just tripped a little bit. So let me

01:01:52 --> 01:01:53

just switch back to the Yeti.

01:01:55 --> 01:01:58

There we go. Alhamdulillah. Am I clear? Can you hear me?

01:01:59 --> 01:02:03

Yeah, okay. Alhamdulillah. So thank you so much. Baraka laufiki

01:02:03 --> 01:02:07

For that, for that inspirational message. We do have something from

01:02:07 --> 01:02:09

the from one of our YouTube viewers saying, masha Allah, this

01:02:09 --> 01:02:13

was so inspiring. May Allah preserve you and bless you and

01:02:13 --> 01:02:16

your family. We need to hear from more women's scholars, or really

01:02:16 --> 01:02:20

motivate and inspire other women in their journey. Masha Allah, and

01:02:20 --> 01:02:22

lots of lots of love and support in the comments,

01:02:25 --> 01:02:28

from Sister Jamil, we got the hearts. We got the the hearts from

01:02:28 --> 01:02:32

Sister Siobhan and from Sister cola and from Sister joy. May

01:02:32 --> 01:02:36

Allah bless all of you. May Allah bless all of you. She's come on

01:02:36 --> 01:02:36

now

01:02:38 --> 01:02:39

sister Samia,

01:02:40 --> 01:02:43

you know, we got, we got lots of of love in the comment section,

01:02:43 --> 01:02:48

Alhamdulillah. And, you know, we ran out of time. I wanted to try

01:02:48 --> 01:02:52

and snag a little recitation. But Inshallah, maybe we can have you

01:02:52 --> 01:02:57

on again to maybe talk about one of those Splinter topics that came

01:02:57 --> 01:02:58

up inshallah. We can discuss it

01:03:00 --> 01:03:05

Inshallah, and maybe we can have you back in the include with that

01:03:05 --> 01:03:08

inshallah recitation. In the meantime, at the bottom, we have

01:03:08 --> 01:03:09

scrolling at the bottom,

01:03:10 --> 01:03:12

Mariam Amir's

01:03:14 --> 01:03:17

Instagram tag, which is at the Is this correct? Is spelled correct

01:03:17 --> 01:03:23

at the Mariam Amir, M, A R, Y, a m, a m, I R at the Mariam Amir, go

01:03:23 --> 01:03:25

to YouTube. She gave you a couple references, some names, some

01:03:25 --> 01:03:28

people to check out on her page. Pretty much everybody up there is

01:03:28 --> 01:03:31

awesome. She also recently had the interview with the young lady with

01:03:31 --> 01:03:34

Down Syndrome who just memorized the entire Quran, and I watched it

01:03:34 --> 01:03:39

live as it was happening. I was very emotional. Had me messed up

01:03:39 --> 01:03:42

in a good way, masha Allah, and I was just like,

01:03:43 --> 01:03:46

she just melted my heart. Man. And then her mom, like the most

01:03:46 --> 01:03:50

phenomenal so mashallah, great content. Don't want to keep you,

01:03:50 --> 01:03:54

Alhamdulillah. Can you please close us out with a DUA? But

01:03:54 --> 01:03:57

before you do that, I do want you to know that, Alhamdulillah, many

01:03:57 --> 01:04:01

of our measure tone students are actually tuning in and watching

01:04:01 --> 01:04:05

you. Alhamdulillah, we, we had over 60 registrants, and three

01:04:05 --> 01:04:10

quarters of them were women and And Alhamdulillah three. Three of

01:04:10 --> 01:04:13

three of our four Teachers are, are women as well. Alhamdulillah

01:04:13 --> 01:04:16

as one of our students, she said, Alhamdulillah measure tones is

01:04:16 --> 01:04:19

definitely creating those spaces. So zakalaha for allowing her to

01:04:19 --> 01:04:23

bring her experience to us. Alhamdulillah, man, that's what

01:04:23 --> 01:04:25

that's what is. That's what it's all about. Alhamdulillah. So if

01:04:25 --> 01:04:29

you can close us out with the DUA so that we can get you on your way

01:04:29 --> 01:04:32

to to what you need to do. Bismillah, please. Thank

01:04:33 --> 01:04:36

you so much. It was such a gift and an honor to be here chef and

01:04:36 --> 01:04:38

to learn from you and your recitation is mind blowing. May

01:04:38 --> 01:04:41

Allah bless you and increase you and the work that you do. And

01:04:41 --> 01:04:44

thank you all for listening and leaving me for my shortcomings,

01:04:44 --> 01:04:50

and butterfly looking for your kind words. And SubhanaHu wa in

01:04:50 --> 01:04:54

English. So I'm going to face the hamdu Kim, a young lady Judy, what

01:04:54 --> 01:04:59

you call all the mistonic Allah Abu Asmaa, Tala Allah on this

01:04:59 --> 01:04:59

blue.

01:05:01 --> 01:05:04

Ya Allah, we ask You, ya Ara Hama Rahi mean, Allah humma, do not

01:05:04 --> 01:05:08

turn us away. Allah humma, do not turn us away. Allah humma, if you

01:05:08 --> 01:05:11

turn us away, who will we go to? You told us, and your words are

01:05:11 --> 01:05:15

the truth. Darunia, come pray to Me, it will respond to you. We are

01:05:15 --> 01:05:18

here praying. Ya rabal, Alameen, Oh Allah, answer the needs of

01:05:18 --> 01:05:22

every single one of our hearts. Ya Ara Hama, Rahim, Allahu, antari,

01:05:22 --> 01:05:26

Allah, you are the most generous. Ya Allah, every single one of us

01:05:26 --> 01:05:29

has things in our lives that we need help with. Oh Allah, answer

01:05:29 --> 01:05:32

us. Give us more than we even think to ask for your hammer.

01:05:32 --> 01:05:36

Rahimid, bless our brothers and sisters. FI kulima can and help

01:05:36 --> 01:05:39

the vulnerable everywhere. Yorba aramin and use us for your sake,

01:05:39 --> 01:05:45

sincerely for your space and forgive us for all of our sins. I

01:05:45 --> 01:05:51

mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, thank you so much. Once again,

01:05:51 --> 01:05:54

it's such a blessing. We most definitely have to have you back

01:05:54 --> 01:05:57

on again, at least one more time, as many times as we can.

01:05:57 --> 01:05:58

Inshallah,

01:06:02 --> 01:06:02

wow.

01:06:09 --> 01:06:14

Man, how cool was that? How cool was that? Masha Allah, Masha

01:06:14 --> 01:06:16

Allah, this was, this was really excellent.

01:06:17 --> 01:06:21

Had me really excited. Masha Allah, sister, madam, I mean, you

01:06:21 --> 01:06:25

can see the passion man, the passion just like just pouring,

01:06:25 --> 01:06:29

just like oozing out of her pores. Masha Allah, she was just, you

01:06:29 --> 01:06:34

know, it was very, very heartfelt testimonies from her, from her

01:06:34 --> 01:06:37

students, from the people that are coming to her for advice.

01:06:38 --> 01:06:42

Barcolofiki, sister, Hola, thank you for your contribution as well

01:06:42 --> 01:06:45

and all of you who are watching. Thank you for your comments, your

01:06:45 --> 01:06:47

words of encouragement, inspiration. Thank you for sharing

01:06:47 --> 01:06:50

the video. For those of you who shared and if you haven't shared

01:06:50 --> 01:06:53

it, go ahead and share it now and when it archives, share it again.

01:06:53 --> 01:07:00

Inshallah, BarakAllahu, salaam alaikum. Baraka I hope you guys

01:07:00 --> 01:07:03

have a blessed Friday, and your enjoy your weekend with your

01:07:03 --> 01:07:09

families and so on. Barakah of it. Allah here. Barakatullah.

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