Path of the Sahabah, the best Nation by Kamal El Mekki
Kamal El-Mekki – Path Of The Sahabah
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The speakers discuss the religious path of the Sahaba after the Islam, emphasizing the importance of understanding the language of Islam and following rules. They also explore the historical context of the title of "The Great Gatsby" and the importance of understanding the definition of the title. The conversation also touches on the confusion surrounding the title and the need for clarity and evidence to reconcile claims made by others.
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Mr.
Miller horo Haman hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen wa salatu salam ala rasulillah. I mean,
he was happy at 9am about Thank you for coming for taking the time out from your evening bark Luffy calm.
And thank you for the organizers and MRM and all the wonderful brothers sisters who it's a pleasure to be with. I wanted to talk about the pathless haba, the religious path of the Sahaba the religious one, right. And so I have a few bullet points that I want to go through, right? So first of all, they're the most successful generation, the best generation of Muslims and the most successful people religiously. So it already to a sane person makes sense to follow them. It makes sense to follow them. Now, you would think this would be a very easy life, because Allah subhanaw taala praise the companions in the Quran. The prophet SAW said, multiple times praise them and mentioned
that they're upon the truth and so on and so forth, that it should be easy and everyone should just follow their way. But of course, many obstacles come in the path that we're going to discuss.
So we said that the prophet SAW
Allah subhanaw taala praise him in the Foreign Enemies Allah said and also praise them. And he spoke about that generation. So the problem in the very famous Hadith says hydrocodone, corny. The best of generations is my generation from Allah, Xena, Luna home then the generation coming after them through Medina Luna Han Soo Miah el Khatib so the best of generations is my generation than the ones coming after them meaning the tambourine, then the ones after them tagliata vain or at about a vein, and then the lies will spread. So what does it mean lies will spread the SCADA say by lies here some of some scholars said it means that the innovations people adding things into the religion, strange
acts of worship, strange things being added into the religion of Allah subhanaw taala. Now, and this, of course, when you add something to the religion, it's called a bit up. Now if you say the word bitter, you're labeled as something yourself. So as if these things don't exist, yeah, people constantly adding things to the religion of Allah. And no one has a right to add or take away from the deen except for Allah Subhana Allah and His Messenger sallallahu sallam, but all kinds of crazy things happen? And everyone says, No, it's a good thing to do it ever. It's always a good thing. Show me one bit out where the guy who's created that said, Oh, this is a very, this is very bad
thing, okay, but we're just gonna do it for a few months, then it's always a good thing. And sometimes just a real decoist thing. This happened actually in the region in a sham where someone saw a dream, this is a true story, someone saw a dream in which they were making a dance. So he saw himself making the adult and in the event he said a shadow and say you deny Muhammad Rasulullah
Muhammad Rasul Allah, I bear witness that our master, so he, he added this word, Master, more respect, right? So he tells this dream, just when he woke up, he told his dream to someone, that guy liked it. So I'll try it. So he made the run. And he said, he gonna say he didn't Mohammed Rasulullah. Another mud didn't hurt it. I like that. And it came to after a while that entire region was making the oven in that way. Sometimes just a dream, like this is what it takes now, and in the process, fault and was injured and fought so hard for this religion. Now, one dream can change something that he that he's taught us or initiated. So something else about the dream, the Hadith of
the generation, so we said the best of generation are the first three, then you're going to see more lies coming into the religion, things changing into the religion. But the scholar said something interesting. They said, this hadith isn't just saying that the Muslims of his generation for asylum with the best is very interesting point. They said, even the non Muslims of his generation were better than non Muslims later on. And if you look at this, you see that's very true. You know, it's very true. So the non Muslims at the time of the Prophet sallallahu Sallam are better than non Muslims today. They had let's be honest, they had some values Muslims don't have today remember?
Remember? Abuja, right? Abu Jamal when the alum and and abubaker left for the Hydra. Oh, actually, they stayed in the cave right for three days first. So then they go looking for heat for
the prostate lemon. Okay, so they go to the house of Obama and they asked a smart, the older sister of Ayesha, where's your father? And she said, I don't know. So he hit her. He slapped her. And suddenly she said that he slapped her and she was wearing an earring and so she started to bleed from the slap.
Now, this is a Buddha, Buddha help people. He tells Sophia who is with him. Don't
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Do not tell anyone that I hit her. Why? He was ashamed. He was ashamed can imagine this man, he was ashamed that he hit a woman.
Should I tell you stories about the hitting woman now? Mashallah. And forget the lay people hitting women. I want I want to give you a hot burning machine in America. The man took me to his house. We had breakfast, he was nice and everything and good host. We're going to now he's driving me to his Masjid to give the Jehovah when we get there, I was wearing a suit and tie. He said, Could you if you have a favor? If you don't mind? Can you take off your tie?
I said, Sure. And if it does it bother the community. Because if it bothers a community, I'll take it off. It's not that I need to put on a tie. And if it will make my football more understandable enrich more hearts because I have no tie on I'll take off the tie. I'll turn off the jacket to if it'll make you understand the whole bus not a problem. So he said yes, it bothers the community. I took off the tie, give the hook. But I came back maybe a year or so later?
And asked how is it I'm so and so we were at a gathering and suddenly everyone's face changed. Everyone's quoting Mm hmm.
So what's going on? Turns out that he had imprisoned his wife in the in her in the home. He's to like abuse her and everything. And she was imprisoned in the house. And one day she broke free and ran to the neighbors and called the police. And then they discover then they helped her out finally. So Michelle, I have a problem with a tie. I see. But you tie your wife down at home and imprison her in the house. And that's okay. Yeah. So
it felt ashamed that he hit a woman. And now religious people hitting women and doing all kinds of things. The honesty, also the Hadith in Sahih, Al Bukhari of Abu sufian, when he was questioned by Heroku, so Heroku heraclius, he had to stand in the front like this, and his companions stand behind him, the Friends of our suffering, who are traveling with him, and he's the leader stood behind him. So I was so Huracan said, if he lies, he's not gonna see you, if you if you if you snitch on him. If he lies, let me know that he's lying. I was against it. I know. They're my friends. And I'm the leader. And I know they're not going to, if I liked, they're not gonna turn me in. I don't even know
Huracan they're not gonna turn me in. Because I didn't want people to see that I'm a liar.
Who is that that point? The number one enemy of Islam. So you see a lot of really good qualities in the non Muslims of old, and they are better than the non Muslims of today. So the scholar said, the best of generations, from the Muslims and from non Muslims as well. Now, so we know that this is the best generation of Muslims, these first three, wouldn't it be logical that when we look for religious leadership, we kind of look at that direction? You would imagine it would be the case we look at that direction for religious leadership, because they're the best of generations. And they're also the same * right? And the professor lump question. Oh, we get to the end for
questions.
The the professor lamb spoke about that the omo will break into 70 odd groups, 70, adriani, 70 370-577-7970 odd groups, just to show a large number, right. And he said, they'll all be in the healthcare except for one. Now, the scholars explain this, it doesn't mean that they're all too far or anything. That's why they're in the herd, meaning they're all under the threat of going to the hellfire. They all have error, except for one. The companions were amazing people, they always ask questions, because they want to make sure they're on the right, the path is clear ahead of them. So they said, Okay, which one is the one that saved? So today, if you tell people, you know, there'll
be 70 odd groups and alpha one is saved, they'll be like, that's interesting. We don't ask you which one is saved. So they said, which is the one that says What is it? What's their description? And the problem said there upon the religion that they're upon is my Anna Lee was hobby, the religion that I'm upon and my companions. So you really Okay, go ahead.
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okay, why, why then, we're, why then are we to follow the way of the companions
because they're the ones who received and learn from the profits of the Law Center. They're the ones who received and learn from an obese or a lot of what and as a loss of heart as they were
The ones who lived are alive when a verse was revealed. And so then the verses were concerning them, or they an action that some of them have done, or it was revealed in the person who explained No, this is not what it means this is exactly what it means. So they're the ones who understood the book of Allah and the words of Allah, which is better than any group better than any generation. And in history, obviously. And that's why this group, these three generations are known as the Sunnah or Gemma. And that's what it means when they say understood nojima. Yeah, it means it means these, this group, the companions, the generation after them, then the generation after them, the understanding
that they were upon that is what that those are, who are interested in our Gema.
The ones who learn from the Prophet sallallahu sallam, today, people will give you this interpretation. And as you're under the stand, that's your understanding. That's how you understand this verse. That's how I understand it, and so on. And so we're gonna come to these arguments in a little bit. But can you compare that to Abdullah mustard, for example, who swears by Allah, there's not a verse of the Quran, except I can tell you where it was revealed when it was revealed, if it was during night, or during the daytime. And if it was in a flatland or in a high, high area. I'm gonna leave the statement of someone who knows the Quran that well, and listen to some guy now he's
gonna tell me some kind of some new nonsense. There was, there was a doctor in America and I knew this woman. And she basically says, I don't need anyone to tell me what Allah is saying to me, okay, I don't need any chef. I don't need any scholar, I don't need the manifester. I read the Quran because the Quran is Allah's message to me. I read it and I understand it. However I understand it. I understand whatever Allah is saying to me, personally, and alone might see something different to you, and something different to you and something different to you. But so I understand what Allah saying to me, and don't come and force me upon what you understood from the Quran. Everyone
understand something different? Yeah, sounds like a nice argument. The sad part of the story is that she doesn't even understand Arabic. So what's she reading? Then? What is she reading that translation? Now, if you actually look at the translation of the Quran, it's if you read it carefully, it's actually based off of the suit. So she's already she's already relying on Siri, from someone else. I don't need a scholar, I read the book of Atlanta, see what Allah is saying to me, too, as if there isn't one message of the Quran. But there are multiple messages of the Quran. We're coming to that point again later on, but I want to cover some other, let's just call them ground
rules first.
The column says he knows that they're going to be changes. And he says, in a schminken, whoever of you lives long after me for CRS de la Franca Tierra, he will see many differences. But we know and we live in this world with many differences. So this hadith is for this, these kinds of times when you were alive at a time of many differences. So what are you supposed to do when there are many differences? Do you think your profits are settling with pass away without telling us this kind of information, he gave us the guidelines. So So those of you who will live long enough will see start to see many differences. And then he gives you the way to be safe when there's so many differences
and that is
la can be sued Natty, and it was clear, right? And they can be sued in it. And so a B follow closely my son and the son of the rightly guided hola after me, there must
have been Noah just hold on, hold fast onto it, and bite down hard on it with the molars the back part of the teeth, not the front. You can't hold that hard with here, back there. Hold on to it hard. This is a good grip back here. This is the advice of when you live in a world in a time when there's so many differences. This the world that we're in right now. So you would imagine that one easy way to make sure everything's okay is my upon what the prophet SAW Selim and his companions were upon. And sometimes you see some strange practices people doing all kinds of weird things or, or dances and you think, Okay, how about I just applied this simple test? Do you think they brought
the drums out at the time they posted them? And people dance for two hours and so this is worshiping a large legit, but today No, no later? Later, please. Okay, today, you have all these kinds of things now and oh million and one different explanations are no, but different excuses. How about we follow the litmus test our prophet SAW Selim gave us there'll be many differences. So you can give me your arguments until tomorrow and everybody has an argument for everything. And just a few days ago, I met a young man and he had an argument for everything. And that's how it is the guy who smokes he has an argument
As to why you can smoke, okay, the guy who does this kind of harm, he has an argument for it as well, the one who follows a chef who said something that's really, really funny, beyond, you know, Islamic, but he has also an argument for that, you know, everyone has an argument for something. Okay, put all your arguments aside.
Let's just go to what our profits are. Selim said, how it was to follow, what are we supposed to be upon? And that is the deen that he and his companions were upon. And that is obviously something that's going to be preserved. Right? If this Deen and the understanding of the companions is going to be lost, why would he tell you come back to it? Obviously, this is something you can always come back to. And that's why the President said let Azhar if Ottoman Amati and a group for my oma will continue to be upon the truth. Let us that that means we have one steady stream like this, this Listen carefully. Okay. Don't want to argue Listen, first, we have one steady stream. What does it
mean? That is that that means it's not as new a new group that will rise in the year in 1992? It's not a group that showed up in the 14th year after the hijra. No, that is that it's continuous from the time of the process alum. Until now, a group will remain upon the truth. Which means until today, you can trace Islam to its original teachings and adulterated how the process taught the companions how they understood it, how they did it. Now.
Okay, I hope this was clear. Yeah. See,
then what happens? We see that the believers have a way, the believers they have a way, right, there's a path and a way of the believers as well.
people confuse this with with issues of disagreement in
you know, fix issues. Sick was supposed to be different and flexible. People now, they are very strict when it comes to fifth and motherhood and very relaxed when it comes to arcada. Even though aqeedah I can we can all agree is more serious than fuck pita from the word like akkada. When you tie something or not, when you tie a knot in a rope, as hard as you pull this rope, the knot is will always be there as hard as you pull it, it actually will be tighter. So something that's firm. That's why Islam is strict. When it comes to issues of belief. It's not a strict religion. It's very strict when it comes to issues of belief, but it's very relaxed. When it comes to issues of faith.
We can disagree. And you can say, I'm not sure when I come up from record, should my hands go down here? Or should they come up here? I'm really not sure about that. I have doubt about this issue. So sometimes I do this. Sometimes I do that. Is that okay? That's okay. I'm not sure how to move my finger up and down. Round and round a little bit. Slowly. I see everything. So you're interesting. Later later. So which one can I do? It's okay. It's okay. Just we'll just keep we'll give him a chance later. Everyone with me? Everyone? Yeah. So which one can I do, then? It's okay. You can have doubt. But Can someone say I'm not sure is a low one or more than one is that acceptable? Not
acceptable at all. I'm not sure if musasa was one of the prophets or not not acceptable at all. So Islam is strict when it comes to issues of belief. And it's relaxed when it comes to issues of faith, and dealings and business and different opinions. And here and there. And as long as you have knowledge and there is knowledge involved, the differences will have a flavor of Rama in them. And the minute you don't have
knowledge in the discussion, it becomes a fight and issue and a reason to divorce and to not give you my daughter because you're from this group on your friend, you understand the solid that way. We've made things very, very complicated. Today, if you tell someone about a difference in filk, they take it seriously they tell them but this person also believes this and that about Allah, it was you know, these differences exist in Islam, very relaxed with al Qaeda, to them a problem that is very something very problematic or even coffre and they'll tell you what, these are differences in just knowing that's okay, but they believe we're all brothers in the end. But we're willing to
fight over this fist fight over issues, like I told you about. I always tell the story about a fistfight that broke out and the message is a true story. fistfight broke out in the masjid in America. So uncle's punching each other jumping off the member onto each other. Yeah. And then someone called the police to kind of break up the fight. So the police came to break up this fight and most masajid you've got the the member and the prayer area is kind of far from the door. So the police entered the machine to break up this fight. And of course, they walked in with their shoes, right? They entered with the shoes as when they entered. These uncle's stopped in mid fight. Mid
fight. Yeah, so while they're punching someone like this, he saw the police
And suddenly all of them stopped fighting in one split second. And now they all united for the sake of their, against the kuffar and everything. And they started all yelling at the police get out, you have your shoes on out, get out. And you can imagine the poor officers like this was the strangest fight they've ever seen in their life. They stopped immediately. Now everyone's angry with us. So, like, so strict about the shoe issue, very relaxed about this other issue. Once I was actually asked to give a demo by this Masjid, where they brought, they're bringing this guy like super deviant, like just another level. Okay, someone who says that 96% of the money comes on television, okay, and
American television, and he says 96% of the massages in America are terrorist massage. Yeah. And he says all kinds of other things just against Dr. garrison ojima. And they're inviting him to give a talk at this machine.
And they don't see any problem with it. Let him say this nonsense to all the believing men and women. But as I was coming in to give him a hug, but they have a guy whose job is to guard the green carpet, so do you have your shoes here, and then you have to take off your shoes, then you step on the green carpet, then you put your shoes on the and this man is like a police officer like very serious issue. So like coming into the green carpet, take off your shoes, and like not even a nice way and it's like, you can say this nicely. You can tell me Hey, you know, don't step on the green carpet. But this guy just sitting like this, the green carpet. Don't step on the green carpet with
the shoes. But this guy is gonna come and tell the believing woman and men the craziest things when it comes to data, but that's okay. But don't you dare stop on the green carpet. As long as we're clear on that.
As long as we're clear on that issue, yeah.
So
a llama Shakira mala Hola, amigos. Chavez, right? Yeah, nothing wrong with that. What's the problem guys laughing. Mama Shafi said I was going through out through the Quran in my mind, looking for verses. Okay, I was going through the Quran in my head, looking for a verse to prove consensus meaning that the Muslims can agree on something.
So he says I found the verse I was going through from the beginning. And then I found the verse to give evidence to this. And it's the verse where I lost haha tada says, well, may you shuffle Karasu, whoever parts ways with the Prophet sallallahu Sallam mean badmouth Sabina houda after guidance has been made clear to them, where tibbett various Abidal meaning and he takes a path other than the path of the believers. Normally he mattala honestly Johanna Masato zero. So we'll give Luke put him on the path that he that he chose. And basically,
a gentleman who end up in the Hellfire and what a horrible end that is, you see what's happening. So he said that I found this verse, because the verse says, Whoever parts ways from the Prophet after guidance has been made clear to them. And he seeks a path other than that of the believers. What is a verse show you that the believers have a path, the believers have a way, and you should be aware of stepping away from the way of the believers and stepping away and disagreeing with that as soon ojama the main body of Muslims starting from the companions.
simple equation, actually, there was an Imam that we know, and he would tell you, all the scholars have asked a question to all the scholars of Islam said it's Haram, but I say it's halal. Okay, before I even asked you about your evidence, let's just make a simple equation here. Who do you think is wrong?
All the scholars of Islam say it's haram? And I say it's hella Who do you think is wrong?
I mean, okay, so let's put all the scholars of Islam on one side of the balance in starting from the phenomenal companions and knowledgeable companions, and then the incredible scholars from that Iberian you put poles and put naka de la me and just put loaded and then look put the for a mom's Abu hanifa Monica Shafi Mama, and put a nice facade and Abraham and mockery and Amara Shabbat just put names and names and names and names and names. That's all one side of the balance. Now take this guy from our century on one side of the balance here. Who do you think is wrong? Could it be possible that for 1400 years, the most knowledgeable and righteous people don't got it wrong? And
then one day today Got it? Right. Is that possible? That goes against the guidelines. The problem gave us of the way of the believers being right of the oma making a judgment upon what is truth? Yeah. So there's no disputing these issues today. One of the fashions is that people want to debate what are known as Mr. limit, and he said limit things that there is no discussion about historically, in islamically, hijab there was no discussion about from from amongst scholars, or was a part of Islam or not. The Prayer is being five was
discussion about this. Now sometimes you see on these new shows, they'll have a discussion of HR should a woman wear hijab or not? And then they have the audience vote. Yeah, yeah, not this is for real. I know this is a well known guy and he has the audience vote the audience votes on the hijab, should we have hijab or should we not have hedger? Now the masala we vote on Selamat, we vote on hijab, we vote on Salah, should we decrease the Salawat from five to three so people can be more productive in the workplace? Food now.
This so we see now that the believers have a weight. There was a woman in America and she said she's going to reevaluate so he had Buhari. Okay, just the way Now, first of all, there are no weak Hadith in Bukhari. The second thing
she didn't speak Arabic. So, so she's going to now reevaluate the translated the hadith of said Buhari. And then they asked her what she said to basically to see and she was going to remove all the weak Hadith from it. They said, what criteria are you going to use to determine what have you to say, What is life? She said? I'm going to look at this hadith from the woman's perspective. And if it disagrees with the woman's perspective,
Kevin finisher, who disagrees with the woman's perspective, it's weak. us online Auslan. Don't get me started, man. First of all, what is the woman's perspective I need to understand. The second thing is Who are you to represent all the women? There are women more knowledgeable than you have more taqwa than who did they all like vote and made you the one representing with a woman's perspective? So now you're going to take a hadith out of Buhari, and this the door of this door about the question of Are there any weaker? The mohabbatein whose specialties closest door like 800 years ago, it's been closed. Now you want to reopen it and tell me based on the woman's perspective,
but these are the kinds of things that you hear all the time now, people questioning things that were not questioned before. And it's only things like there's more than one way to Allah azza wa jal. So don't force me to telling you that doctor, don't force me upon how you understood Islam. You understand Islam one way, I understand that one way you find your way to Allah, I find my way to Allah, your way to Allah through hijab and Swansea my way to Allah is through having a good heart being kind to the animals and feeding the squirrels. Okay, feeding ducks and stuff. That's my Okay. Why is it then that there's only one path to Allah? There's one path to a lot of people. We know
that because every day at least 17 times a day we say, Idina sirata, who stopped him, who in here can tell me the plural form of setup.
No one's gonna put their hand up. Because some linguistics argue there isn't a plural form of setup. Some tried to argue that it's a sorta, but they say that's linguistically incorrect. Here's a question.
Suppose it were a suitor who ever heard this? before? You haven't heard it because we said it originally, there isn't a plural form of setup. But because you never heard it, because we always know that there was one path to Allah subhanaw taala. One.
Are we good?
The prophet SAW Selim, then beyond the fact that we always ask Allah to get us to that one straight path and never saw Selim. Give us a visual, you know, this Hadith, right where the Prophet said lamb drew a long, straight line in the sand. He drew a long, straight line in the sand and he said that Serato him was talking everyone with me.
How about can we take it off until you have it ready? Just so everyone's not looking their back, look at? when it's ready, put it back up and shot? Oh, he's opening the file. Oh, he's right clicking now. Open File, Open File Location, Save As ever, just following what you're doing. Okay, you're with me. We're saying we're arguing that there is one straight path to Allah. And maybe even give us a visual drew one straight line in the sand and he said Hi, that serrato law him was talking. This is illustrate path. The scholars commented about this. They said this drawing they said number one, notice that it's one. Number two, notice that it's long, which means you have to be
patient upon it. And number three, they said notice that it's straight. This is illustrate path. It leads to Allah, the One that we call, everyday We ask Allah to give us the guidance to it. Then the processor drew lines coming off of that line, and they were short and curved. And he said these are other paths. At the head of each path is the shape on calling people to the hellfire. That means the scholars and commented on this other path. They said number one, notice there many. Number two, notice they're short. And number three, notice they're all curved. The President didn't draw four lines and say these are the paths that take you to one and when it comes to
Multiple more than one they lead to the hellfire. So there's one path that leads to Allah multiple paths that lead to the hellfire. Is it drawing clear or not? It couldn't be more clear. But if you allow me to add the fourth point to the short lines, if you notice in the drawing, they all came off of the original straight path. Which means listen to this point is very important. deviant groups, they break off of the mainstream Muslim groups, very important point, leaving groups break off of mainstream Islamic groups. The President didn't draw the straw, the Steadicam stop him, then a line off of it, then a line off the line. Did he ever do that in a diagram, he didn't ever draw a line
off of a line, they all came off with silicon stokin, which means whenever a deviant group arises or comes or emerges, it emerges out of the mainstream Muslims. And then one of the best examples is that the Hawaii bridge came out of the army of
a little girl on who
is Moroccan Marika. And that's why in the beginning, the hardest We're known as America because they emerged came out even how they chose to break away to break out of to come out of so that they came out of the army of ID. So a little bit longer does that mean there's something wrong with his al Qaeda or belief or something wrong with his group, because a deviant came out of it? Now, that's actually proved that his group is upon this line, because from this line, break off other groups. So people now try to tell you things like,
we see that Islamic is a lot of extremist groups, they break off of the pseudo Gema. They never break off from this group. They never break off from that group. That's like a good thing for those groups. No, they never break out from those groups, because those groups aren't the mainstream deviations come out of the mainstream, we clear on that point. So
I want to tell you about something like going back to what this doctor was saying
about
you, you understand the Quran your way and understand the Quran my way, there's something that it's been going on for a while now in the West, it's called the death of the author. The idea is called the death of the author. And some of you who are, who deal with literature and everything are familiar with this death of the author is basically saying now that I am free to understand whatever I want to understand, from this piece of work this piece of literature, or this poem, I understand, however, I want to understand that the author is dead as far as I'm concerned. Yeah. So the author writes a poem about I don't know, whatever, appreciating flowers. And when he wrote it, he really
meant flowers. But someone will say, No, it's not speaking about flowers, flowers, here is a symbolism for mesothelioma, and just make up something right. Then you put your post on the internet, and then the author context you said no, actually, I didn't mean I really meant flowers. I like flowers. I'm a I'm a horticulturalists or whatever. And, excuse me.
And I meant flowers. So okay, so now with this new idea, you tell him, it doesn't matter what you meant. What matters is how it spoke to me.
See what's happening. And now this has crept into the minds of Muslims now. So it tells you they tell you it doesn't matter how you understand the verse or, or what the mufa city in said about the verse or whatnot, bass said about the verse. What matters is how I understood the verse. That's what it that's what it spoke to me. And it's, you know, you're seeing this and see some of the looks on the faces. It's kind of nonsense, isn't it? It's nonsense. And it might be applicable to poetry. You know, someone may, you know, I don't know, he got a divorce and he reads a poetry about something else.
And it means something else to him and he gets that particular comfort from it. Even though that's not what the author meant. So can we gotta let it go? But then when Allah subhanaw taala says something in his book, you want to apply that? Look at how Allah described his book, first of all, Allah subhanaw taala, revealed it bill Hassan in Arabi in Moby in a clear Arabic tongue. Then the verses of the Quran, it was an FAQ s. And Allah says we revealed in it I asked him bayonet in other parts, I attend MOBA unit that are clear, I add that clarify other issues. So lucky talking about this book being clear, the language of the book being clear, and you're telling me No, no, as many
Muslims exist on Earth, each one can understand something different from this book, and everyone can see it in a different way. So then what is the law saying that's clear, then? Then what is the value of the Quran as a book of guidance, if someone reads it and goes, and if I give you a map like that, I get five brothers the same map. Everyone reads the same map. It's supposed to take him to the same place, but everyone goes in about a different direction completely. What would you say about this map, it's good, it's clear, it guides it doesn't guide and when you guide you have a directly in a specific
Hello cheap location where you taking everyone? So the Quran being a book of guidance should guide all people to one place. It's not like, Oh, I get it this way I go this way, you go that way. And that's what alignment for all of us No, unless it is because clear has is cleared their language is clear that is to clarify issues. So it can't be that everyone reads it and everyone gets what they want. And some scholars argued, if that were the case, then Am I am I going too fast, by the way? Okay, good. scholars argue if that were the case, society couldn't function. If everyone could understand the Quran in a different way, and everyone's understanding is valid, then one, what's the
value of the Quran? Two? How can you have society? How can you have laws? Because they said, someone will be caught stealing? Let's take him to the Islamic court and the judge will say I sentence you to this, this this and that. He said that, Your Honor. How did you decide on this? So based on the Quran, so do your honor. That's how you understood the verse of the Quran. My understanding is completely different.
The judge is gonna say just take, take more, don't waste my time. So how are you going to have laws for anything, not just any crimes, and but just anything? inheritance law? You know, this is how I understood this first, you know, one third, and one third is like 50% of my you can't do that society wouldn't function. So can it? Could it be logically that Allah subhanaw taala intended for his book to be understood in any way and still have courtrooms? It wouldn't work. There's no way you can have a court room if everyone could understand the law in a different way. That means there's a specific understanding. Here's other evidence, strong evidence that there is a specific
understanding a low wants you to have Allah subhanaw taala says first Alou Allah decree in quantum law tala moon, as the people have knowledge, if you don't know,
it's gonna say this versus proof that there's an intended understanding, not four or five. And that is, if you could understand the Quran any way you wanted to? Well, the last you will tell you ask the people of knowledge, asking the people of knowledge indicates that there is a specific understanding that Allah wants you to have. And if you don't have it, go to these people, the scholars, who are the ones who will have it, why am I going to them? If I can, if I'm free to understand that my own way what Allah told me to go to them? Does that make sense? Yeah, we'll repeat it one more time. If Allah revealed the Quran for every believing man or woman to understand
it in any way they want it to, why would Allah subhanaw taala tell you to go to the people of knowledge to get the specific understanding.
But people hear things like this and say, but but you know, there are many differences that today people differ about, what are you talking about? Are you talking about Phil? Are you talking about? Okay, the issues, and many people think that * differences, those are like the differences that split them? They shouldn't? Because we said it, that's far more important. But we've made it so important that we're willing to split them over 50 issues. And that's why historically at some point, there were four members in Mecca. Yeah, because there was a joke for the medic isn't just for this group and for that group, and there were points in his stomach history where if someone came to
you, and he wanted to marry your daughter, and he was a Maliki and you're a Hambali, you refused him, you refuse them? Because, you know, how can you put your hand like this, and we put it like this, but forget questioning him testing him on our belief, issues of speed issues, physical became the most important thing.
So we can defer.
We can, there can be differences, and we can differ about issues a bit, what really unites is the issues of our cable issues, the core issues of belief that people now arguing that you can understand in any way, or that the Koran basically just again, the whole idea of the death of the author thing, you can understand it any way you want to. And put one subtle way this is I took an English literature class one time in the US. And it was a thick class like this, and it's got all kinds of writings in it. And they'll just the professor will choose whatever he wants for that semester. We'll discuss it. In that book. There. There was there were verses from the Quran,
sometimes half chapters or full chapters on the Quran. Do you see the subtle message they're sending out?
What is it?
or something else? What the Quranic parts of the Quran in a book of literature the Muslim sees is in there so happy Oh, everyone's gonna read Quran. Quran has made it into the literature, books and
literature. Yeah, it's a very subtle message. People don't catch it a lot. When you put the Quran in a book, with the parts from Romeo and Juliet and parts from Adam, The Great Gatsby or Mashad of whatever books that are famous. Then it just says, Oh, this is a piece of literature. It's not a book of God or anything. It's just a piece of literature. And that's the message that people get now
Anyways,
we're spot stopping at 10 was like seven or eight minutes left, maybe some people want to ask questions. Do we have someone to moderate the q&a? Yeah, fantastic. Okay, or so. So I'll stop here and shut loads up and look out for your attentive listening to the whole article, Mohammed Samadhi, to lower
case Hila hamdulillah. Now, we're going to conduct this q&a quick question answer sessions, but of course, will give priority to the non Muslim first, okay, if you are here, or if you are on here, then you can protest given to you first, then of course, we also pass to the sister First Ladies first. Right? Right, guys. Yeah, ladies, first, I think we only only have three or maximum four questions. Okay. And the answer will depends on the timing as well. Because tomorrow, we'll have another event as well. So we passed any non Muslim yet not yet Muslim here. So like to ask the questions. No, how about sisters?
sisters? No. Brother. Yes. Okay with us.
Can I ask two questions on?
Like, the, you know, there is limits on what we had in the Quran. And so because if we restrict, like the understanding then though, where is the position of HTML? And so maybe you can elaborate. Thank you, sir.
Excellent.
brother asked a very intelligent question. Very good question. And he's saying that I mean, he basically he's citing from the Quran evidence that says that there are some verses that are vague and unclear in meaning fee Ayah to maka Moto, Cora, Natasha behat. Right.
And actually, the scholars mentioned this issue. And so when we're speaking in general terms, right, about how, like, did the companions differ on issues? Absolutely. They differ on issues plenty. And and they respected the different issues they have, they differ on some issues of belief. There were a few issues of belief they differ upon. And some of them like would change their opinion, when they heard like the opinion of Ayesha, like when some competitors thought that the problem saw a law and then they got clarification from that person and said No, and
I saw like, how could I say I lose all like, only I couldn't see beyond that, right? So there were some issues and some differences. But in general, if you go back to the time of the Sahaba, and that type of thing, do you see them as one body upon more or less one belief? Or do you see them broken up? You see them up on one belief with variations. Now the verses of the Quran, the scholars said, they're broken up also into groups. And Allah subhanaw taala did that already. So there are certain verses where nobody understands what they're saying. Such as a flat mean, Kapha in salt, nobody knows exactly what they mean. That's one, then there's some categories of verses that are so clear,
they don't need to see the only clarification. Allahu Allah. Nobody who understands basic Arabic, here's that verse and things more than one, maybe one, it's clear. Then there's some verses that are vague and they're clarified by other, other verses will clarify them, or they're, they're understood. Their understanding isn't with the common folks. But when you go and ask a manifester, or scholar, they'll give you what the verse means. So that means like even the Quran wasn't meant to be just one type of verses, even though Allah subhanaw taala refers to his verses are as clear, because in general, that is the case. And if you compare the number of verses where nobody knows
what they mean, and the Hale hora, nakatani, Alif Lam, Meem raw and stuff. They're a very small number compared to the number of verses and in general, yes, it is clear, the Quran is clear. And they will be verses here that have an understanding this way and understanding that way. When we did the note a few months ago in KL we discussed multiple times how a verse was understood one way and then again, an another way, but also beautiful the whole time was that they didn't completely clash and contradict each other they actually supported one another. If you've ever witnessed it, I've seen a class where the the like this shift goes through the different art and how each one lends
different argument, different support to the It's unbelievable. But how many times do you find a verse where the move is seen? 180 degree difference? I actually I can't think of any there might be one but is that the norm with the Quran? So it's a brilliant question. In general, yes, they are clear in general. Yes, there are differences and there are verses that are vague. But the last part Allah says,
As for those who have vnfs will obey Him z one, those
Have some disease in their heart fit of your own Mr. Tasha bahaman, who they follow the verses that have unclear and vague issues in them why it poteva al fitna viptela that really, because they seek to create fitna and they seek to make with any given look a distorted understanding of the verse. And this is what happened. I don't have time. But this what happened with the man sibella Lera T, who used to ask about just the vague verses, he would only ask about the vague verses of the Quran he would ask the Amir's and so they wrote to me, as a man asking questions we can answer what should we do with him? also send them to me? All right.
Long story short, I had him whipped. Yeah. And a whipping maybe I don't know if in Islamic history, there was whipping like that. But he saved the man from this nonsense, because years later, Ahmed had passed on end.
And the like, and towards the end of the telephone of Earth, man, it's in the 12th year of Earth man's philosopher. This is a long time later, some people came out 1000 of them and they're saying the same arguments he was giving a decade before. So people came to him and said, Remember when you were alone, and they beat you because no. Now there are 1000 saying what you're saying why don't you join them? So the narration says Guevara, who? He scratched his back. He said, the righteous man taught me a lesson. Yeah, so that's why he didn't go out with him anyways, not to make it long winded below Tanana.
Now, let's make the questions. Sharp. Okay, straight to the point, no commentary, no mini lectures. Yeah.
I'm Jay
Haley, I have around 20 questions.
So
the first one the first one is what is your background of education?
The I need to know just to clarify,
so that I can answer my background of education and we can it will be next time.
And then this one statement.
Maybe you can study on Sufism a little bit and mourn Shafi. Milan?
Well, you're assuming I haven't studied Sufism. I have and I'm from Sudan originally by default.
By default, everyone Sufi, my father's side of the family or ismaili Sufi Okay, so you're assuming I don't know anything about them and then you said study Sufism and Chava ism as if cefa ism is Sufi ism. And they're not this one in the same at all. Okay, but why isn't Chavez and what does that have to do with Sufism?
Yeah, Monica, you're doing exactly what we're saying. You're making
every call it
so important. Chapter. Malik is a kind of visa. These are understandings of these are ways methodologies of understanding. Listen to me, you don't listen from the beginning. I noticed you weren't listening. Listen carefully to what I'm saying.
Listen, listen to me, everyone. Listen. You were in Malaysia, and you're Shafi. Geoffrey chemotype is a way of understanding Philip.
Yes, Maliki method is a way of understanding fill
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this form that have disagree in it the issues? They don't. So yes. And disagree as much as you want on where to put the hands how to pray all these things. This is no different. So we're in Malaysia, we're not attacking the Metalab of Malaysia or anything. That's a way of understanding. Okay. And that should never get to a point where it becomes a big deal. Because our key there is the big deal. Philip can disagree. And you can even be unsure and put one one year you make it like this and one next year you go in circles the next year you turn it the other way. That's not a big issue. So hello, Santa Lucia.
Yeah, I think I think the obsession with labeling is maybe a problem like, you know, shafa what's the issue? Or molecules molecules should learn. For example, in Sudan, people are Maliki and they insist that the malefic is the best one. You know why? Because that's the one they were born into. That's why and I'd go to Pakistan.
And they're so obsessed with hunting that they tried to prove that the Imam was the best one that's why they call it mama honey. What a mommy awesome. The best one huh? Already biased just in that title. Right? And then you go somewhere else and humbling humbling. Yes, of course humble is a co we have. Everyone wants to listen to who is humble Lee we have so and so is humble and everyone tries to prove that is the best but this is a distraction because these are physical issues. So why are you so bent on soccer just doesn't matter. We can disagree on it.
You blew it man.
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brother in the back. Okay, I think after this rather anyone's do have questions just one more questions after this Roger
321 Okay, this will be the last question inshallah
psycho Thank you very much. I just want to ask you one question whether this is considered as a key Donna, some people, I'm not quite
good in Islam as well. So my, my statement might be wrong as well. So I heard some people attributes that
Allah is not staying in one place as even Allah has no place. And some others are saying that Allah sama so I consider this as an Akita issue and people argued quite a lot on this. So how do we reconcile on this matter? Thank you.
Okay, this will be the last questions.
Okay.
So you heard the question, and the question wasn't, which one? Do you believe the question was, how do you reconcile it? Right? And something as important as this
can't be one where you cannot reconcile. And it can't be one where you cannot find the truth. Or Allah didn't make the truth clear, or the promises element, its companions didn't have a specific understanding. It was either this way, or that way. You guys with me? Yeah. So
let me say one more time no one was listening. An issue that is so important has to have an answer for it. It can't be that Allah subhanaw taala neglected to talk about it, or the companions, if you go trace them back. None of them had an issue about it this way or that way. So you can find the truth. And it's the one that has the clear evidence without explanation. Actually, two days ago,
I think or yesterday, we were in a train gunner. And someone was trying to argue again, that oh, you know, a law is not on his throne. And then he's everywhere, and so on and so forth. And, and every time I gave him a clear evidence of where Allah is, he said, well, but this means that and I told him, in the end, I said something maybe that will come up, said, you're doing exactly what the Christians do with Jesus. Every time you show them a verse where Jesus said, he is a sent over but sent here means and then you show my verse where Jesus said that you know that we should all worship God. And he never said 101 and Jesus said, Oh, but here it means every evidence that's clear,
they're going to explain away in a different way. So it's okay six times in the Quran, Allah tells you where he is six times, Allah tells you he's above his throne. Oh, but you know, above the Throne didn't really mean to watch the throne and
talk to him. They fear their Lord above them into Arabic language, some poetry indicates that above doesn't mean literally above it means higher than them in status. And so that means I'm going to bring you evidence after evidence after evidence after evidence. After the servant girl point upwards, you gotta tell me, oh, it's weak. I mean, you're gonna use every cheap excuse, you gotta try to kill every argument that I give is a rule anytime when your position is just to deny what the other person is saying. You probably had a bad position. Like when every time someone brings you a clear evidence, you just deny it. Okay? That's not a good position to be in. So that the evidence is
so anyways, the point is to answer your question, you know, how do you reconcile It is not difficult to reconcile. It's just through someone putting whatever their bias or whatever their their baggage that comes with them aside, and just looking at the evidences, what is Allah subhanaw taala, saying to us clearly, and shy and move away from this whole mystical explanation. There's always a secret behind the explanation. Or somebody says a statement, or there's a secret behind it, or someone makes a statement of Kufa. Yes. But there is a secret behind it. There's always a secret. It's just a religion of secrets. And Allah revealed this religion to be understood by the masses, or just a
few people got the secret. There's a book called The secrets of the secrets. And there's exactly the book called The secrets and then another one wrote the secrets of the secrets by these secrets. Who are they for? Was this religion sent to guide the masses or just to a few guys, me, you, you and you over there? We get it.
And everyone else will let them find their own set out our setup to specialize gold on it. Yeah.
And they can laugh. They're gonna know what I'm saying. They weren't laughing at their religion. They're laughing at my comment. Yeah. So anyways, I think that's our time, looking for attentive listening, and thank you for coming again with cinemagraph to lower cut.