Kamal El-Mekki – Dealing With Doubt #2
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Candela will Alameen wa salatu salam ala Rasulillah Hill, I mean while he was here, Jermaine, a MOBA. So two things we want to cover today how to deal with thoughts of Cofer of like disbelief, even including something that's not very often talked about someone using bad words against Allah, for Allah, someone's using bad words and profanity against Allah subhanaw taala. And they don't want to say it, but they they have it internally this, this idea or this thought. The other thing is doubts and questions about the religion, how to deal with these things. So first of all, why is this topic very important? Many people believe myself included, this will be the number one challenge for
Islam in the West in the coming years, it already is a big, big challenge. Those of you who deal with youth, no, this is a huge problem. Huge problem all the time, we're getting youth who have doubts about an issue. And so therefore, they leave Islam before they even, you know, speak to a scholar or a person of knowledge, they leave Islam. I can personally I'm going to tell you personally, some stories that I've dealt with lots of times young people leaving Islam, this is one of the biggest challenges now. And sometimes it's even the reason it's just ridiculous. I don't agree with this law, something and are some fine point of law. I'm not Muslim anymore. He stopped
Salah everything.
It's more common than we would like to believe.
For those of us who who don't deal with youth, or maybe don't encounter this problem, I'd like to give them a sense of how, how common it is and what a problem it is. Even a few weeks ago, someone in this Masjid a young man in this Masjid. Not only was he contemplating leaving Islam, he was actually contemplating killing himself. And it was due to philosophy class that he took at the university. And I can't tell you how many times due to philosophy class, someone will want to leave Islam or take their life or many times we've seen it over the years, all over the US not just in one area or another, very, very common. Another problem is that sometimes an English literature class,
they'll have
an excerpt from a philosophy book or something by this philosophy, philosopher or the other. And the English literature teacher or professor is not equipped to teach philosophy so they end up confusing.
confusing, and the the students and you know, and let's just say there are two kinds of philosophy there's the useful one and then there's the garbage one. The garbage philosophy is is this a microphone? Or maybe you think this is a microphone because your whole life you are told this is a microphone.
But okay, it's a spoon. What is this?
Like? him Allah he says, they would sit for hours philosophizing about the poor and how can we deal with the poor and the issue of the poor and then they don't do anything for the port? must talk. Only talk anyways.
type so let's, let's start by saying and by the way I need for those who will hamdulillah don't suffer from this from this issue of doubt and doubtful issues of thoughts, thoughts of disbelief, great. Then for you. What you're gonna get out of this talk inshallah is how to deal with people who have this problem. First thing that's important for people to understand
Stand is that they're not alone when they have thoughts of disbelief or Cofer or doubt, they're not alone. A lot of times what happens is the person thinks they're the only one in the world to go through this thought. And since I'm the only one in the Muslim community going through this, I must not be a good Muslim and therefore they start to leave Islam. Shaitaan uses that angle. So the first thing we said, this is a known issue that even the companions of the Prophet SAW Selim used to go through. So it can't be that they would go through it and we wouldn't go through it inside a Muslim Abu Huraira or the low rates. He says Jah when arson men as Hobbit Nabi SallAllahu Sallam a group of
some people from the companions of the process came for so Alou who and then they asked him in Nigeria and fusina ma yet HA, HA HA Dona, and yet I can never be.
They said, we find in ourselves that which we find too great to speak about Jani, some thoughts of gopher or some bad thoughts about Allah azza wa jal that we find too great to even speak about. Carla wanted to move the person and ask them did you really find that our Luna colada sorry, hola Eman? He said that is a clear sign of Eman. That is a clear sign of EMA. Alright, so how is it a sign of imminent? What? What's the sign of him and having these bad thoughts that you don't even want to speak about? Or type? So remember, no, you know, himolla He says that now who is the one more common column that you find this speech? Something so great. And that you don't want to talk
about it is sign of good, Emma? Yeah. And if somebody gets a bad thought about Allah azza wa jal, and it bothers him so much that they don't dare want to speak about it. Is that a sign of a man? Of course, if the person has no Eman, he wouldn't care. And he would blatantly speak about these bad thoughts or these bad ideas or he has of Allah subhanaw taala. So that's where the problem said that is clear Eema that can sorry for the Eman because only someone who has clear strong emotion we'd find it uncomfortable to talk about these things or bothersome.
So In another Hadith, this one incident of Buddhahood nourishing about nobis with Allah on Houma, and then the beautiful Salem Johor Raja call a man came to the salam and said in me, who had UFC be che. So I basically like I talked to myself and I have thoughts of things. In Hakuna Oh, mama, yeah, honey, for me to be burnt to Cinder, a hub la it's more beloved to me, and at the Columbia, that for me then to speak about this. And he also Allah, I get these thoughts. I would rather be burnt alive until I become Cinder than speak about them. That means they're pretty bad, right? And another narration, I would rather fall from the heavens to the earth and the fall all the way from the
heavens all the way down to the ground smashing. I would rather that happened to me than to speak about these thoughts. So then the process, and it's beautiful is that you come to the Prophet sallallahu Sallam with a problem that you think is so severe, and then he just makes it so easy. The president tells him and hamdulillah and let the rot the umbra, who ill was wasa Alhamdulillah, who has reduced all of the plots of the shaitaan to just mere whisperings. That's it. That's all it is all of this plug of the sheetrock. In the end, how do we classify it? It's just the whispering he gave you and that's all it is. And it's a whispering you then act upon it didn't really do anything,
didn't force you to do anything. That's all it was.
So the first thing we're seeing is that it is not unusual. anyone experiencing this will not be the only one. In fact the students the Sahaba there's the only the students of knowledge and the companions. They are the and the devout worshippers will probably experience it more, as you've been Tamia, hameau Allah, He says that the believer may suffer from the whispers of the shaytaan and the insinuations and thoughts of gopher, which may make him feel distressed. He's saying the believers will feel this more than anyone else. More than the average Joe in the street. Those who are in you know, with strong Eman will feel it more than anyone else.
And, of course, I think it's kind of clear to see why the shaytaan would do that. Because chiffon wants us to be led astray, doesn't want us to have a relationship with Allah. Allah doesn't want us to worship Allah subhanaw taala so it's to his benefit 100% If he comes to you, and through his doubt in your mind and gets you to leave the religion, but just so we have an idea of what an enemy he is to us. Why does the Chopin give us nightmares?
So now I'm asking you
Why does she don't give us nightmares? What is the benefit? You just see yourself running in the street and the bears behind you? Then you trip and the bear comes right on you and you wake up. What did he benefit from that?
Yeah, that to see the level of hatred, that he hates you so much that he just doesn't want you to sleep well through the night. That's it. He doesn't get any other benefit you don't lose your religion because of a bear or anything. He just hates you so much. Yeah. Can you imagine that? You would hate someone so much that you don't even want them to sleep? Well at night you got outside their house you just wait to in the morning you throw a brick 330 Hit the doorbell which activates you knock on the door. Let the car alarm go off just all night everyday. I don't want him lay. Why are you doing that? Well, I hate him so much. I just don't want him to sleep well, mosquitoes for
this is it. This is the level of animosity. This is how much this guy hates.
It's like children.
Except there is not the hate there. Right.
So
okay, so if and if he doesn't want you to leap well through the night. What about imagine what he would love for you to lose that? Now we're going to come to a few points here. But one more Hadith and this incident Abu Dhabi as well. A man by the name of Abu Maine who made this man he comes he says
Carla, called to sell to Abbas for cold to mushy, mushy, aged ofis Audrey. So he says I came to Edna Abbas, the scholar, the companion, and I said, What is this thing I find in my chest? So he's coming to talk about this thing which is bothering him. He says what is this thing I find in my chest? Called Emma who is not versus what is it? Called to wala Hema Jacqueline will be? He said Allah will never talk about it. And how awkward is that? Then he comes to him for help with an issue when it says what's the issues of Allah Allah will talk about it. So if not Abbas God, just to show you how how it's Jani. It's not uncommon. So if not Abbas, he says for Caudalie he said to me, a che on min
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Is it an issue of doubt? caught up with the heck? He said is it something of doubt. And then if the Abbas laughed, then if not bus lost, and then he said call a manager, Metallica. No one has ever been saved from that? An issue of doubt creeping into your head a question that creeps into your head. So no one is safe from that. This is how common it is companions get it, scholars get it or bad get it? That and as if not busted, no one's ever been saved from that. So the first thing is not to panic, if that happens, because it happens. It happens to all kinds of people. And it's a known issue since the time of the Prophet sallallahu sallam. And that's much better than thinking, Oh, I'm
the only one who ever experienced this, this is a disaster, I must not be Muslim, and so on and so forth.
The scholars mentioned like about five points or so on dealing with this type of worse was these types of whisperings in regards to your beliefs, your opinion not taharah and but you update them. Number one, they say do not be worried about them. And they said instead of being worried, actually, you should actually be happy. Because the shaytaan coming to you to give you doubt about Allah is a sign that you have Iman, is a sign that you have Iman, the scholars given analogy, they said with a thief brick into a place where he knows there is no money and there is no wealth, or would he break into a place where there's wealth, and there's someone break into an abandoned warehouse that's been
empty for the last five years? Or do they break into a place where they know there's wealth and products and merchandise? So the shaytaan does he go to someone right now somewhere here in Houston? Does he go to an atheist? Who doesn't believe in Allah subhanaw taala and tell him Do you really believe in Allah? I'm doubting that you believe in Allah. He doesn't go to him because the person has no Eman. But he comes to the person who believes in Allah and says, I think you doubt your belief and Allah. So that's the first thing about it is that it's a good sign that he only comes in that's why even above the law on Houma, he says Wilma if we might have out of shape on because when
horrible. And what would the shaytaan do with Yanni? How do we say
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should kill man ruins like, what would the shutdown do with a ruined heart? If it's already ruined? Shutdown looks at us, okay, he's on our side. That's fine. Let me find someone with a good heart corrupt that one. So the scholars then said that, that someone should be happy with the fact that the shaitaan chose you to give you these doubts. And then they said something interesting.
When the chiffon sees you happy for any reason, he doesn't want you to be happy.
If he's doing something that will make you happy, he leaves you alone. That's a nice point. And if the shaytaan sees that you're happy as a result of his whisperings, he will stop whispering he doesn't want you to be happy, doesn't even want you to sleep. Well. That's the first thing. Right? So you don't panic you're not the only one second or the first thing in dealing with the issue is that you don't give them much weight and you don't bother with them too much. Then the second thing is that when the thoughts come to you, you should occupy yourself with something else.
Now here this is a fun it's an interesting point. I need their point the real point isn't don't think about it but busy yourself with something else by any psychologist say when you when you tell someone not to think of something that's the first thing they think of you right now if I told you for the next minute, I'm going to time you do not ever think of mangoes for the next minute and I started timing you what's going to happen? First thing you think of mangoes this kind that kind of the nice smelling ones in Pakistan right? And then or you will be sitting don't think of mangoes don't think of round orange mangoes don't think of hellos you think you got mangoes? So that's why
therapist said when you try to suppress negative thoughts, it doesn't work. Because that's all that happens is they start to surface and come up.
So they didn't say don't think about them. They said to occupy yourself with something else. What if somebody says I don't like that I think the better solution is to sit down and deal with this issue. Hash it out, as they say, deal with it completely. not good either. We're going to talk about that in a second.
What now or maybe we can link it to the third point which is
seeking the refuge refuge with ALLAH Israel and receiving protection from the shaytaan and this is from Abu Huraira Roby Allahu Anhu he narrates that this is
yeah, it's a Muslim that yet to shaytaan Hadoken fire Cool man, Khalifa Qaeda, the shaytaan will come to one of you and say, Who created such this and that? And then man Halacha, who created that? Hatter, your coal men halacha Robuck. Who created your Lord? So the shaitaan will first ask you who created this? Who created that? Then he'll tell you who created Allah subhanaw taala.
For example of a hook for the Esther is Billahi when William Tay This is what the porcelain said, if that happens, then seek refuge with Allah from the shaytaan and stop in time stop. Why? Because why didn't he say no deal with this issue until you you erase it? First of all, it's an it's an issue of whisperings is not one that, you know if I deal with it, I can erase it. The shaitaan is trying to come to you with this issue. It's like saying when we put it this way, it's like saying, you know the chiffon that comes to you in the Salah to distract you. It's like saying, Just deal with it. Yeah, have a battle with him one time and then you will never come you will always come.
Now, five, I don't want to like jump ahead here. But someone might say no, why don't I just understand the issue? Well, instead of Yenta instead of leaving this issue, why don't I completely deal with it? You know, what's the word they say? Like hash it out and just kill it. Squash it as they say.
Let me answer that later. Let me answer that later. Okay. Number four, asking scholars asking scholars,
because sometimes it's issues that have already been dealt with. But the person doesn't do any research. I'll tell you this. When I was in Canada, I was dealing with this one guy. And he said, I have doubts. And he left Islam. He left Islam. This is a true story. He left Islam based on one Hadith that was mistranslated on some random website, or some book or something like that. And he said, This hadith is scientifically inaccurate, which shows that if the President was a genuine prophet, he wouldn't say something that was scientifically wrong. Therefore, Islam is false. And he left us now he didn't bother wants to read another translation of this hadith. He didn't bother to
look up the words, you know, you can go to the English Arabic lexicon and see what a word means. Even if you don't speak Arabic. He didn't bother to speak to a scholar, an Imam, a person of knowledge, nothing made his decision to leave Islam. So he left Islam as a result of leaving Islam. If you if you discover that Islam is false, and you leave it, you should be the happiest person on earth. And if you discover and you convinced Islam is false, and you leave it like that, you should be very happy well call us I don't have to fast and do all these efforts that these people are spending their time on. I'm not Muslim, I discovered is not the truth. I saved myself a lot of
headache and work and time. But he leaves us nominee becomes extremely unhappy. That's another topic. That's because deep down people know it's the truth because of their fitrah you
And then when someone says I don't believe there's a God, it's another discussion. And I know some people say, some people truly don't believe there's a God, I'm with the group of scholars who believe that there is no such thing as a person who completely formatted the fitrah and doesn't believe that there's a God, we have proof from the Quran for that inshallah Now, going back here, so.
So basically, this guy didn't do any research, he just left Islam.
And his name was Muhammad Islam.
And he's gonna get the Muslim treatment
for the rest of his life, no matter where he goes.
I came a year later. And he committed suicide.
Couldn't couldn't he was so sad. So depressed, you know.
But so what we're seeing is a lot of the issues can be have already been dealt with some just a simple question, simple answers that have been answered 800 years ago by the scholars, and people will not put any effort but just immediately decide to leave. I met another guy I met in Canada, and a new stone, he's an atheist and, you know, found a lot of holes with Islam and said, Well, okay, when did you leave Islam is I left Islam when I was 10 years old. Mashallah. So you had the knowledge of a 10 year old about Islam, that fell softly right now, you didn't know this philosophy and all that. But you have a 10 year old level of education about Islam, when you made your decision
to leave.
But number five, the other point that scholars mentioned to know about or to keep to bear in mind when you have issues of doubt or questioning,
and that is that there is no sin and no harm upon you for thoughts. And that's one of the great blessings that if every time someone had a bad thought they got a sin, that would be a disaster. This is insane Buhari Bukhari and Muslim. And the problem said in Allah to Joe was an almighty Muhammad did that be enough? Sir, Allah subhanaw taala has, has like pardoned basically, for my ummah, what they what they think of your thoughts,
my LM dam and be outed the kalam as long as you don't act upon it, or speak about it, you have a bad thought, as long as you don't act upon that bad thought as though as long as you don't speak and verbalize it to others, then you don't get any sin for it. So, until now, what's the damage done? It's just a bad thought that came into your mind. You never spoke about it to anybody, you never acted upon it. So what has happened, nothing has happened and goes back to the first point of not making it such a huge deal that you're going through this or that you're experiencing this, okay?
So, so a number of points now, number one, that doubt doesn't mean Kufa, we already established a rather it means shows that someone has Iman in their heart. That's why they had the shaytaan came to them with this suggestion. But doubt doesn't mean go for asking questions doesn't mean go for ever.
Allah subhanaw taala invites people to contemplate, and that's what's so beautiful. Yeah, many, many other religions. They tell them don't ask questions. And Allah subhanaw taala asks us to contemplate and to consider things. In Surah Nisa, Allah azza wa jal says, A fella to the Brunel Quran, well, oh can m and n divided law, he know what you do 50 Laughing Kathira This is now if you want to get into philosophy, this is known as a falsification test, a falsification test, if something is true, you can test to prove it false. Most of the time, if you can try to prove something false, that means it's true. But if you cannot even try to if you cannot even prove it false, that means it's false.
Just any simple example, if someone tells you, this is the fastest car in the world, the minute they tell you that you don't believe them, and you want to try to prove it false. If it's true, it will would stand this test, try to prove it for so I'll run it and time it and then measure those timings against the fastest car in the world or are racing against very fast cars. I can try to prove it false. But whenever you cannot try to prove something false. That's an indication that it could possibly be false. And I'll tell you, for example, every time my my laptop crashes, it's due to an invisible pink unicorn who comes and nudges my laptop like this. That's why it crashes. Can you
prove this false? Don't say yes. How can you prove it false? Do you have cameras that can indicate invisible pink unicorns? I know they have one for purple ones, but for pink. They don't have it right. So how do I prove this false? So they say that the falsification test, where when something cannot be proven to be false
That's an indication that it's most likely false. Allah has me in this verse tells you how to tell if the Quran was not from Allah. If Allah to De Bruyne Quran, do they not contemplate this Quran? Well Oh can I mean in degraded ly? If it had been from other than Allah, the words you do 50 Laughing cathedra they would have found many discrepancies in the Quran.
And that's it had to be that way. I mean, if one person wrote the Quran, or if a group of people wrote the Quran, you would find discrepancies, you would find changes. We know why if many people because different thoughts, different ideas, but even if one person wrote the Quran, that book would be very different. Because if you if you look at the idea, the Quran revealed over a period of 23 years, right now you start writing a book today and finish it 23 years from now, would that book be the same? And you can't rewrite chapters? Would it be the same? No. When you started off, look, pick Mohamed here, right? He's young. He starts his book in the first chapter is what is it video games
and dogs and cats I saw him.
And then, as he you know, 23 years from now he's has children, he's more mature and his grammar is better and the book is like very different. And if the prostate lamb wrote this Quran, it would not be the same for 23 years, as like one of the very nice comments. If the person wrote the Quran, you would have found the death of Khadija in it. True or false, which was a very big deal. Even if he didn't write about her death, you would see that it would be super sad during that time period. I'm using the Euro of sorrow. The book would have been super sad. When there's victory the book would have been happy the writing would be happy. Do you any anytime you catch that in the Quran? Yeah,
you look in Ramadan you look Oh, today taraweeh we're doing the happy versus I'm excited. You don't catch anything like that. So anyways,
but what is what our point was that Allah subhanaw taala invited people to contemplate. Prophets of Allah asked Allah about issues. Ibrahim Ali Sana Robbie areni que Foothill mount. Right. Oh my Lord, show me how you bring the dead back to life. Pilot. Oh, I'm talking. Are you not a believer? And Abella said yes I am. Well, I can lead in kalbi so that my heart can find content. So an Abraham Ali Salam, he had he had no doubt in Allah subhanaw taala. But there are different levels of certainty different types of Yochanan. You see in the Quran, Allah subhanaw taala will talk about
El Bulli again, I know your pain helpfully attained. And simply in a simple way. Let's say someone that you trust very much comes to you and there's a bulge in his pocket, he tells you I have an apple in my pocket. Like this is a trustworthy person. So I have no doubt he has an apple in his pocket. So that's a familiar thing. based on my knowledge, I have certainty that there's an apple in his pocket. He's never lied. There's no reason for me to doubt that. Then he pulls it out. Now it's finally okay. And I saw with my own eyes, right. Now I know for a fact he has an apple, but it could be wax fruit can be plastic, I don't know if it's real or not. But if he gives it to you, you take a
bite out of it. Now that you experience something, it's actually a pain. And that's why Allah Allah will mention how can we attain in the Quran when people enter as Jana already because now they experienced they felt it before through knowledge. They knew of it and everything. But now when they walk into it, it's another level of certainty. So the fact that someone asks a question, and sometimes people come up to you, I have a question. But I don't want you to think badly of me because of this question. And I'm like, I'm not like doubting Iman, I just want to ask, but basically ask, I don't need all these introductions. Well, actually, I'm sure he got that a lot. And
I'm not doubting it but I just want a
disclaimer, I was looking at giving you disclaimers and ask me we don't worry about
okay.
See here.
Okay, let's look at a number of things. Number one, the idea of the Quran as the answer to things. All right, the Quran as the answer.
So this, this young man,
Yanni, these young men came to me they said, we have a friend, he's confused because of philosophy class that he's taking into university and what have you, and was contemplating suicide, all this, we'd like you to talk to him. He said we it took us a while to convince him to come to the masjid to talk to an imam. Why? Because he said, If I talk to the Imam, the Imam is going to say
I'm gonna tell him because of issues of that. Go read the Quran.
But he says the Imam would just tell me go read the Quran. You know what the problem is? The problem is how we belittle the Quran. Well, like what an amazing book. What answers in it, what perfect perfection in it. But the problem is we don't put it at a high level. So the guy says the man the chef will just tell me
Go read the Quran as if the Quran is just so when they told me that one of the things I wanted to tell him on purpose is go read the Quran. And I told him told the Quran has all these answers. But our problem is we belittle the Quran, which I be little Allah's answers, and I come to get some chips answers. That's the way we look so sad to ally. So sad. So and this is $1 technique. By the way, when someone knows the answer, you're gonna give and tells you in advance, don't give me that answer. So what happens, a lot of people get stuck. This is a true story. This is a mystery in California. And
I was there but this guy didn't come up to me. So this guy, his specialty, when there's a guest, Imam, he walks up to the hobby, and this man had some calamities happen in his life. So he says, yes, yeah, this happened to me. And then this happened. And in the same week, this person died, and in the same time I got fired, and he gives you his calamities quickly in like 40 seconds, then he tells you, why is Allah doing that to me? Don't tell me Allah is testing you. Don't tell me he's exploiting your sins. Don't tell me you will never know, the good unless you experience the bad and every answer that he got from God. He slaughters it right in front of you. And then he says, don't
tell me anything. But go ahead, give me your answer.
So he didn't come to me that Friday, and he but the brothers told me he comes to everybody, and they don't know what to tell him never lie. I don't know what to tell you. I was hoping it would come to me because I had an answer ready for him. So no, I will tell you this. And I will tell you that and I will tell you all these answers. You cannot take the right answer, slaughter it and tell them you can't use it. I mean, imagine let's simplify. I come to you and say what's one plus one? And don't say two.
Now, I will say two it's the right answer. You can't tell me not to say the right answer. Right? That's just the doctor told me I need someone to tell you why this question. And don't give me this answer. I'll give you this answer. So someone essentially this young man is saying, I want an answer. And don't tell me read the Quran. I will tell you read the Quran? Because it is the answer. What do you think all these imams are telling you to read the Quran for? Because there's something about a 10? Or do you think it's just a cop out? When I don't know how to deal with you I tell you just go home read the Quran or woman which prohibited Quran?
Because it is the answer. All right.
Okay.
Okay, type
a number of things here. And some of these issues, some of the points I wanted to mention, like kind of explain, also what the problem is with the issue with issues of doubt. But let's see if I can go in order. Sometimes you can't understand something. Sometimes Allah subhanaw taala purposely doesn't explain it to you, because you're not going to be asked about on the Day of Judgment. Like, for example, how did Allah subhanaw taala create the heavens and the earth? We're not going to be asked about that to enter a gender. But you have to know who is the creator of the heavens and the earth and of yourself. So there's a difference here. So Allah subhanaw taala, will give you the answer you
need on the day of judgment and not the other answer. Because you're not going to be asked about. I've got another data point, a guy came to me in the dollar table, where at the university, he points to the Quran, he says, How old is this book, say the earth is? He wants to know if the if Muslims believe the Earth is 6000 years old, or 10,000 years old, like some Christians do. And we have carbon dating, and we'll have things that have been on Earth a million years ago, or 65 million years ago. And you gotta tell me, it's 6000 years old. So his first question was, how old is this book say that the earth is? I said, Look, this book doesn't. First and foremost, this is a book of
guidance. It doesn't comment on the age of the Earth. It's not a geology book. It's not a history book. There might be some history, but it's not a history book. It just actually a few months ago, I was looking at something online. And it was like a, you know, the debate and the trial refer back to the Quran. And one website was arguing someone on this website was saying, if these people understood that the Quran was a book of history, do we understand that it's not a commandment?
Did this person ever read the Quran? The Quran is a book of history. But call of Allah, where's the history there? How can someone think the Quran is a book of history? These have no clue and when. So there's some history in it. But it's not a history book. There might be some geography, some geology, some science, but it's not a science book. And that's why it's so wrong when people try to sell the Quran as a science book. Oh, there are a lot of scientific miracles. A few here, what percentage of the Quran is scientific miracles? Might even 1% Just throwing a number and
the point is,
so I told him the book does not comment on the age of the Earth. If it's a million if it's 10 million, if it's a billion, it doesn't matter. It tells you everything you need to enter into paradise and to avoid the hellfire. That's what the book is about. So Book of guidance. He said, Now we can talk and if you
told me this book is that the earth is 6000 years old, according to you, I want to talk to you. That's ridiculous. We said, now we can talk by. So we're saying sometimes you can't understand something. And it doesn't mean that.
That it's nonsense just because you can't understand it.
And I'll explain the philosophy behind that in a second. So
let's base it off another true story. Again, this young man, and for whatever reason, it also happened to be in Canada. Yeah. And this guy was like, a note and a student of knowledge that we were very well aware of he and he took a lot of classes and courses and you know, his wife was a revert Nan daughters were Muslim, to Muslim girls. And he started writing on his blog and making it public that he's going to leave Islam. So I called him up and said, Can we talk he said, Sure, call me at this time. But please read my blog. First. It's more very important for me that you read my blog. I didn't want to read his blog, because I didn't care about you know, the back and forth here.
I wanted the big picture. And when I took a look at it, it was exactly what I expected. Like it was about basically eight, a hadith or points that he couldn't understand. Based on these eight points. Islam is false. He left Islam right.
By one of them, for example, just so
is the hadith of Buddha when the problem asked him Yeah, we got you know, where? Yeah, but God, do you know where the sun goes when it sets? And then he tells him that the sun goes and prostrate under the Throne of Allah. He said, We know that Sun doesn't go anywhere. There's some doesn't even set. And it's in the middle of the galaxy of our any What do you call it? Or nine planet thing? Solar System? Thank you. NASA is close by Yeah, we should be careful, right?
Pipe. And I wouldn't say the Hadith didn't say that the sun goes around us. But from our vantage point, it looks like it's it goes away somewhere it doesn't we know that. But if you were vantage point until now in the language, you say the sunset it didn't set. But we don't talk to each other. Well, the earth turned, we don't say the earth we say the sunset. And
so the it's a hadith that he's that where something is happening in the world of the unseen can things happen in the world of the unseen without affecting our world. And he right now, these pillars, these walls, these the rugs, this microphone, Stan, they're all making dhikr of Allah subhanaw taala. And it's happening in this in this world that doesn't affect or intersect with our world? And none of you are saying, Can you raise it? I can't hear you. Because all the disparate from all these things just too loud. It's not affecting our world at all. But it's happening in a way that Allah subhanaw taala is aware of? Can the sun makes the jute to Allah? subhanaw taala? In a
way that doesn't affect us? Yeah, for sure. We don't have to be able to know and explain everything. And I didn't say scientifically, because a lot of times we don't even know what this means, scientifically, we give it way too much power. And I know some of you are scientists. But
look at how ridiculous this is. Imagine I asked you and people do this kind of stuff. What year did you father marry your mother? And can you prove it scientifically?
And this is a real I saw this. One of those YouTube clips and someone came up and asked Dr. Zack Anika question I had nothing to do with and he asked him something like what you did? Or how old was the President when he made the Hadith or something like that? And can you prove it scientifically?
So it doesn't matter how much sciences? You have no clue what it is, then what kind of a question is that? What did you have for lunch? Can you prove it scientifically? What do you want me to do? Cut my stomach open and put on put the things under the microscope? Or what do you mean? Can you prove it scientifically? So people most people don't even understand how to you and what that means, you know? But anyways,
we're really running out of time here, right?
The point is that
if you don't understand something, it doesn't mean make it nonsense. And if you don't understand something, it doesn't make it false. Basically what this guy did, he took eight points and because of eight points decided that Allah has a will is because he couldn't understand eight point due to that Allah is not on his throne. subhanaw taala and maybe so Salam Salah was a lawyer and an imposter and not a genuine prophet, and he made it all up. And that's that's exactly where we ended the conversation. We spoke for an hour. Then in the end, I said, I have one question for you. You studied theater classes before he said yes, I took courses on Sierra. I read books on Sierra listen
to lectures on Sierra. I said at any point when you studied the Sierra, did you ever feel that you were learning about a liar, a cheater a con man and imposter at any point? He said Honestly, I never once felt the porcelain was not genuine. I never felt that he was a cheater someone Allah. Conning his people never. I said now because you don't understand the eight points. He said
only became a liar
is not exactly what happened. Because I don't understand eight points. He wasn't speaking the truth.
He said, this point is so strong that I have to rethink the whole idea of leaving Islam.
And that's exactly what happens now.
If I go to take a physics course, then one day I enter into class, and I don't understand the class that day. So I'm like, I understand physics is false. Because yeah, I don't understand physics is false, cool. Looking at Alibaba
doesn't make any sense. So that's exactly what he's doing. Because he doesn't understand eight points. But look at how many points like I told him imagine you walk into the largest Islamic library in the world, millions of books? Would it be reasonable to stand in the middle of that gigantic library? And look at all these books with all this writing and explanation over the centuries and say, I'm pretty sure, from all these pages, there might be eight points? I don't understand. He said, Yeah, that's reasonable. So then, does it is it reasonable to say, because of these eight points, that just a few paragraphs, that will offset all these millions of pages, and
therefore all of Islam is false, because of eight points, I don't understand. Here's what the problem is, I think I have a lot of points I'm not going to be able to cover but maybe this one is one of the beneficial ones. Why does that happen. And this might be a little bit of Western philosophy versus the, you know, let's just call it the Islamic philosophy of how the mind is. So in, in the West, they give the mind too much power. If my mind doesn't understand it, it must be nonsense. So you're giving too much power to your mind. In the Muslim for lack of a better term in the Muslim philosophy, they don't give the mind too much power, the mind is considered one of the
senses, one of the senses, just like your sense of smell, and touch and sight, your mind is one of the senses. And it's one of the means through which we learn and acquire knowledge. There's like I learned through the senses. So you know, I see something that's glowing, red hot, I touch it, it burns me it's hot, I learned through the sense of touch, you know, I smell smoke, I learned about fire all these things. Now imagine, and in the same way I use my brain, my mind to understand and to learn. It's one of the senses. It's not some magical thing. So in the same way, when if somebody says, I am going to learn everything, through my sense of smell, only everything,
even things related to touch, I will learn through smell. Yeah. If this is soft, or not through my nose, this is this delicious through my nose, is this hot? Through my nose? What would you say? It's impossible because not one of the senses can every sense has a limit. So already now we're studying something relaxing here. The fact that the mind is one of the senses, it has a limit, just like the sense of smell has a limit sense of touch has a limit. And so the senses have a limit and we use them to gain knowledge and to learn and to acquire knowledge. But they're not like any, you know, some kind of be all end all and that's why Allah azza wa jal mentions the mind as one of the senses
for gaining knowledge in the Quran. Will Allah who have Raja comb, Minh, Bertoni Omaha to come to Ala Moana che, Allah brought you out of the wombs of your mothers not knowing anything, then Allah subhanaw taala mentioned some of the senses without looking with some well absorbed one, EDA and Allah subhanaw taala gave you the hearing, and eyesight and he just mentioned some of the senses and and into your minds and hearts minds, right? So.
So then, these are senses through which you learn. And we don't give it too much power. So if my mind cannot completely digest something, or wrap itself around an issue doesn't make it false. And I'll give the simplest example. And Yanni bear with me if you heard it. So imagine you walk into a Jana, and you see a brand new color, not a mixture of two worldly colors, and an entirely brand new color. Not a mixture of red and orange or anything, a new color you've never ever seen before. Does everyone understand what I'm saying? Yeah, imagine you walk into a gender you see a brand new category of color, something you've never seen on Earth before. Everybody understands this. Now,
close your eyes and imagine that color.
See the difference? Yeah, so something can make sense to me. But I can't completely wrap my mind around it to the point that I can imagine it and so on and so forth.
So the idea for example, that Allah subhanaw taala is the creator of everything, and people will ask who created the Allah? Just like in the Hadith? What grade Allah there? All right. Now someone says, I told him nothing. He tells me this is nonsense. You're believing in nonsense. How can you have no beginning?
All right, the answer two parts. The first thing is It's not nonsense. You understand the concept of
First, if I say so and so was the first person in the masjid today. He's the first one who walked into this building today. And he told me Yeah, but who is there but who walked in beforehand?
Do you understand the concept of first? When I told you someone was the first one in? Why would you ask me who was there before him? That doesn't make any sense? That's the first thing. The second thing the problem is the way we understand Allah subhanaw taala is using our world. And that's going to be flawed at some point. The way I understand Allah azza wa jal is by examining my world. So I know that Allah Subhana Allah is Al Karim the most generous. I look at my world, I've seen generosity, I understand generosity, I multiplied by a lot. Now I can understand how Allah is Al Karim. Allah is a Rahim. And I've seen or Rama, I see Rama in my world I've seen in the animal
kingdom, I see it with families. So I understand that concept I see in my world. In my mind, I multiplied by a lot. I understand how Allah is. Right? But then I know I see or a who I'm told that Allah subhanaw taala created everything. What do I do? I immediately look to my or actually forget that. Allah subhanaw taala has no beginning. So I turned to my world again, that's how I understand Allah is by looking at my world and magnifying but when I turn to my world now, okay, what has no beginning on this army? See? Everything has the beginning. So this guy is telling you, that's nonsense, because he's using his world to understand Allah subhanaw taala. And
the Creator cannot be just an it cannot be temporal cannot be like the world, he has to be different than the world that he created. So here we say you can't ask that same question about Allah. And then he says, Oh, well, that's a cop out. You're just trying to escape, you just made up that rule. So you can when that you cannot ask the same question about the creation as you can about the Creator, or the creator about the creation. So no, I can't do that. And so in the example, the scholars give this example, the carpenter creates a door and in Arabic, you can say in a jar ColourPop bourbon, he created the door, meaning he fashioned this door. So the creator in this
example is our carpenter. And the creation is the door. Our rule is, you cannot ask the same questions about the Creator as you can about the creation.
And this rule applies in this simple example. So the guy he built the door and he put 64 screws in it, but it's okay, how many screws are in the carpet?
What's the rule? You can ask the same question about the Creator as you can about the creation? It's okay. The door has three hinges how many hinges are on the carpenter by Wilshere? All right. The carpenter has two wives. How many ones does the door have? He has three children how many? You can ask the same questions. So it is logical, it is logical. But a lot of times people try to corner you with the with the extent or the limit of your knowledge to say look, you run out of stuff to say of course I'm going to run out of things to say at the end. What it look great is I explained it I don't like that explanation. I give you another one that I don't like that one either. Give you
another another. I'm going to run out I'm not I don't have infinite knowledge. When I run out you'd like to call us I want I didn't you just refused the ones I gave you. They were all good and legit and valid. But now you turn on them you like Okay, now what are you going to do about it? What are you going to do but are we out of time?
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I just want to add the point. I mean actually have like, I guess three or four other points in there. But maybe another time.
The idea of impossibilities and and whenever we talk about this in class, a student will come to me during break and try to change my words, right? The words make them uncomfortable. So okay, don't just don't maybe we shouldn't say that Allah cannot do impossibilities. That's the wording of the scholars not my word. The scholars said Allah azza wa jal cannot do impossibilities.
Type. All right. But that's an issue when you say Allah can't do something relaxing. What is an impossibility?
Something that's impossible. So or do you not know what impossible means in the English language? Any that's why when somebody comes to you works all the way to you to ask you if something impossible is possible, that person is just being foolish. Yeah. So the you know that one of those questions like can Allah azza wa jal create a door that no living thing can open? And the person says yes. Can Allah open the door? And the person Yes. Okay. That means he can not create a door that no thing can open because he can open it. Alright, can Allah create a rock that is so huge that no living thing can move it? Yes. Can he move it? Yes. That means he cannot create a rock that no
living thing can move it because he can move it
See what's happening? Can Allah create a four sided triangle? Is the question we'll ask them that that will close on many. Yes.
If somebody says that to you, can Allah create a force center and I don't know where you studied math. Okay? But the minute there are four sides, it said rectangle, a square a parallelogram, but it's not a triangle. Don't answer. Yes, the answer of your printer, you can create a 16 sided triangle in your eyeball. Barbara Hershey.
Yeah. So when someone asks you an impossibility and if somebody walks up to you and says, Can Allah be absolutely still and moving super fast at the same time?
Don't don't even answer a question like that. No, it's a dumb question. And only a dumb person will ask something like that. Where did you study? What? Why would you ask me about two things that are paradoxical or two things that are just impossible work against each other? And then ask me if the impossible is possible. Then you must not know what the word impossible means. If that's the case, it's time to stop
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the young man that wanted to commit suicide because of philosophy class, you know when he told me
he's considering a minor in philosophy.
And he won class and you're gonna kill yourself. When you do a minor we're gonna kill your father, your mother, the whole family that the dog
who wants to continue with what caused them confusion? And that's the difference. The early Muslims are so different than when someone would come to them even wanting to debate Imam Malik many stories of these people who are well grounded in knowledge and someone would want to debate them on an issue and they'll say, Look,
I know my Deen. If you're looking for yours go look for that. They wouldn't. Today it's the opposite. Let me let me get deeper into this. It's causing you already confusion and distress. We're going to get into it further.
One of the things that
Some people fail to realize is that when, let's say Rene Descartes, he wanted to, to know in how do I know I'm alive? How do I know this is not just some kind of dream? You know, there's his story. And he said he cannot rely on his senses. He even went to the point he said he cannot even rely on his mind. Because what if some demons powerfully took over his mind, so all these kinds of things, but in the end, he concluded he's alive because he thinks he's, I think, and it Cogito ergo sum, I think, therefore I am. By yella, you're proud of him, because he went through all this miskeen he didn't have the Quran. I have the Quran, I don't have to go through his sufferings. I don't have to
retrace his footsteps. He had to sit in a dark room because of that. We had was one MSA in the East Coast. And they had this t shirt printed and it said, I think therefore Islam,
which I think therefore I am, I think therefore Islam, because I'm not in the same place as this guy. Oh, but you know, you need to start from zero and question everything and build upon that. That's for someone who doesn't have Allah azza wa jal doesn't have the Quran. I don't need to start build once and for if I have to start from scratch. But these are some of those bad thoughts anyway.
Such issues, not a reason to leave Islam. So many people I don't agree with, you know, the treatment of this in Islam. He leaves Islam, I don't agree with this fine point of law in Islam. He leaves I don't believe that if someone commits in addition to be punished
the market then what's with the your advocacy for the design, you're going to leave Islam, Allah subhanaw taala is not on his throne. Because your 19 year old brain doesn't agree with some laws and fine point of law. Suddenly Islam is false. Allah's Will doesn't exist, because you don't believe or do not agree with this law. So issues of fit are not issues to leave Islam. Issues of science are not issues to leave Islam. And we see this happening throughout our life where, you know, science says this, and the textbook has it in its effect in there. And then five years later, they like you know, we said that before, that's wrong. Okay, so this is the news. But don't question this one.
Because this is for sure now. And every time it happens, every time with every issue, it happens. In the world of nutrition, it's happening all the time in the world of in space, they're always telling us different things with dinosaurs, they tell us different things. I remember very well when I was in school, the stegosaurus had two plates of armor on its back. And then something like 1015 years later, they said no, that was wrong. It's one plate of armor. But if in second grade, I argued that they will tell me it's in the book don't see the look in the drawing. It's in the science book for you to question it. And then later they're like, Yeah, you know, it was wrong. And now but this
Don't Don't question this one.
And a lot of times, a lot of science is is theory presented as fact, theory presented as facts. And people start to their Eman starts to waver and everything based on not even doing further research. And especially today, it's become ridiculous where research has shown a research proves this relationship. It's very dodgy the way they do it very, very dodgy. So they'll, mmm let me not change the topic. But
yeah.
Now what is interesting is that philosophically, the West has one source of knowledge. That's the universe, that for the West, anything you learn, it will be from this universe. If you learn anything about spaces by examining these bodies, and how they move and stars and this and that, examining how this guy moves or how this animal behaves, observing, experimenting, that anything you learn will be from inside this universe. But for the Muslims is not one source. We have two sources of knowledge. Anything you learn will either be from the universe, or it will be from Revelation, and why some scholars breaking into and why and Mubasher will read Mubasher Uber should bring the
Quran direct revelation Quran in direct revelation to sunnah. So anything you learn will will be either from the universe, and if it's outside of the universe will be from Revelation. And the things that are in Revelation you can never learn from observing the universe. Any you can never set up an experiment to prove that the angel on the right writes down good deeds and the one on the left writes down bad news. True or False? No microscope no camera, nothing on this earth from observing the universe will tell you which and your Wrightstown which deeds are that if people die, they go to all eternity in paradise, set up an experiment to prove that someone a good righteous person will
spend eternity in paradise, not even 12 years, but it turns set up an experiment to prove that, how can you you can't so what happens is that the things that our Lord tells me in Revelation, there's no way to discern them or figure them out by myself using
universe. So
we have two sources of knowledge, the universe and Revelation. But a lot of in us, you know, scientists except one, or a lot of, you know, Westerners will accept one and that is the universe. So it is upon the believer then to balance the two together. So, if, for example, I don't want to use a scam for too much money, but let's say gin entering a person. Now, let's agree that it's extremely rare for gin to enter person. And it's extremely rare we think happens all the time. But it's very, very, very rare. Very, very uncommon. Let's just say 2% of the cases you deal with, or 1% will be actual gin possession. Other times the guy's bipolar. He's doing drugs. It's his mother in
law, whatever the reason is, you know, just all kinds of other things. But that 1% Yes, it is Jin.
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The reason I said mother in law, this is a true story. And this actually Shefali someone came to him and he said, Jeff, I think my mother in law did some bad Sarah Jin for us. Because my wife and I were not getting along to the chef said, do you talk to you what he said, No. He said, Do you take her out? Sometimes? He said, No. Do you do anything nice for he said, No. He said, it's not your mother in law, it's, you know, for
him. So what we're trying to say is that it is very rare, but that 1% is, but what happens is you meet a Muslim psychologist, and he says, I don't believe in Jinn possession. Why? Because why? Realistically, because he studied the discipline, under the philosophy of one source of knowledge, and that's the universe. And they didn't have this idea of jinn entering into humans. And so they didn't teach him that in the textbook. Therefore, he concluded that's false. His job as a Muslim would be to say, Okay, I understand why they don't have Jinn possession, because they have only one source. But I have another source and in Revelation, I understand that it is possible, very rare,
let's agree, but it is possible. So all these things play into these issues of doubt. And people starting to have second thoughts all science book doesn't show this. Yeah. But like we said, a lot of people don't even understand what what it is to be scientific. So science
doesn't deny the existence of God. The philosophy of science doesn't accept God as an explanation. There's a whole difference between the philosophy of science and something being scientific. So scholars say any Muslim scholars, science, by its nature is atheistic and materialistic. What does that mean? Yeah, I mean, they refuse to put God as an explanation. You don't ever see a biology book that says, and this works this way, because God made it like that. True. We've never in our life seen that. So it's atheistic, meaning they don't mention God, not as because God is unscientific, because in philosophy, they decided, let's not put God as an explanation. And we're fine with that.
Because then they can further try to research and but many people thought this means the idea of God is unscientific. And to its materialistic, meaning the answer has to be something material. That's why when you tell the scientists, you know, it's something called the jinn. And the jinn is, you know, you know, they're invisible, and they're here, and they can see as we can't see them here. It's got to be material right in front of it. And so what's interesting is that someone who is in this thought process, he will refuse, even if he sees something, his philosophy tells them, it can't be the case. So if I take, if I take a scientist, who doesn't believe that God exists, and I take
him somewhere overseas, maybe we have those facilities here as well. And we stick a gene in him from the airport. Yeah.
I think to charge Sudan, Morocco, from the airport, Vegas, gin, boom, enter, hang
in there also, he should be when he experiences these things, he should be convinced that there's something in it. But he might even struggle with himself, try to explain this, as you know, whatever other explanation, just because the philosophy told him I can't accept this. But there's nothing unscientific about belief in God. It's just a philosophy that said, we're not going to take God as an explanation. So, and many people misunderstand this Muslims or non Muslims. I was reading some article, it was about a debate between creationism and what's the other one evolution.
So the author says they're arguing creationism as if it's something that can be proven inside of a test tube.
She doesn't understand what science is. And he thinks all of science will fit inside the test tube. So I told you, it'd be if you're any psychology is garbage because it can't put it in a test tube and see it like this. First of all, not all science deals with test tubes. That's the first thing.
The second thing I can come using good analysis good.
logic which agrees with the scientific method, that the Quran is from Allah azza wa jal, I read the Quran, and I'm analyzing it, I bring a group of scientists, and they're going to look at the Quran to see, is it possible that a man living in Arabia 1400 years ago could have written this book. And they will use completely scientific analysis and scientific methods and good logic to say, okay, he couldn't have known about this, he couldn't have written about the future, and they're going to come up with a number of points. And they're going to conclude, no, this book could not have been written by human beings or even a group of human beings. So now my next conclusion, it has to have been from
the Creator Himself. I came to this conclusion through science through a scientific method of analysis and a thought, and good logic and good rationale. So why is it unscientific, that it's not? It's just the philosophy of science that refuses to accept God as an explanation. But that doesn't mean there's anything unscientific about believing in God. Now, I'll conclude by saying this, there's a documentary that I've been encouraging people to watch. It's called expelled. No intelligence allowed. It's called expelled. It's available free online. No, no intelligence allowed. It's an amazing documentary. It's by this man, what's his name? Ben Stein. Remember Ben Stein? Ben
Stein's money in the old or the ClearOS, commercial toxin, that slow, lazy voice. So he's, of course, you can tell from the name he is Jewish. So he does this documentary. First of all, he uncovers something very interesting that there is like a gang of of scientists who gang up on anyone who mentioned creationism, even Christian professors who mentioned that creationism makes sense. They live in Christian Sorry, I just had Christian, non Christian, the guy is not even a Christian. He said, creationism makes more sense got fired immediately. He actually interviews all these professors from around the country who got fired for just making statements that creationism makes a
lot sense a lot of sense or more sense than evolution. Then he exposes to theories. So we always hear about evolution, evolution, and they make it look like it's a science, right? But how do they explain where life came from? Alright, this is my concluding point. Any if if I take a chair and sterilize it, no bacteria on this chair, no viruses on this chair. And I put this chair in a closet that sterilized as well. And I closed that door of that closet, and I come back 300 million years later, open the door of the closet and look at the chair. Am I going to find like life on this chair? Like small waterfalls, jungles, little deer, lions, rats, butterflies? Am I gonna find life
when I put this chair that has no life? And inside this closet? Where will life come from? So then people ask them, these people who say evolution is fact and science and all that and they're explaining it as the origin of okay. Where did life come from? You said there was some cosmic dust that gathered in space spun, heated for whatever reason exploded, right? And then it cooled down. And then millions of years later, we have whales in the ocean and shrimp and birds. Where did these things come from? And they have two theories to explain it.
And there's no other word besides stupid to explain these theories. One of them is called the crystal theory.
And when you watch the documentary, you will say I can't believe that many people think this is something to challenge Islam, that they're having doubts about their Deen because of this. And in the end, it's the CRISPR theory. And how many of us even heard of the Cousteau theory?
It's so shameful. They're even promoted. But they're very quiet about it. And they make it sound like we've got some some hard facts here. And they're scaring everyone with it. And it's absolute garbage. So watch that documentary. It's called expelled. No intelligence allowed will completely enjoy it. You'll benefit from it from the DAO standpoint and you will benefit other Muslims who have dealt with these issues right. Look McKenna for coming for you attentive listening salaam BarakAllahu, Hamid salam ala.
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