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Workshop On Hadeeth Part 1
Channel: Jamal Zarabozo
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Specially here we have kind of a cross section we have some air brothers and we have some American brothers.
So, what I want to do, I want to give some important points today inshallah and at the same time though I want to leave the floor open during the discussion supposed to be a workshop, it's not supposed to be a lecture. So, I want to leave the floor open during the discussion that if you have some questions shala we can cover during the lecture and also in case we need and we probably will need I will go to the board inshallah and do writing some things on the board.
The first point that usually we begin with in this kind of class, or this kind of workshop, is a discussion of the of the importance of the center of the problem. Mm hmm.
Well, I would hope, and I think shala that everyone here is familiar with the importance of the sooner the problem has gotten
to the point that inshallah we do not have to discuss that in great detail. But if,
if, for some reason, some brothers feel like they would like to discuss it in more detail, which I learned, when we start opening for for questions.
So we can discuss some of the aspects, or some of the evidences, demonstrating the importance of the seminal performances. And
one other aspect that we might get into tomorrow, we're kind of covering
already, originally, I had planned to cover kind of two topics that is an introduction to Roman Hadith from the point of view of the scholars of Hadith, as well as the discussion of the soon left from the point of view of the autoline, or the legal theorists.
Well, inshallah, we will probably need most of that kind of discussion for tomorrow.
So first off, that I'm not going to discuss the importance of discipline unless you insist on it. In which case, I will, I will simply remind you that the public has
told us in this recording Sahih Muslim that everyone will enter agenda except for those who refuse.
And when he was asked who would refuse, he said, whoever obeys the problem comes assylum will enter agenda, and whoever disobeyed him has refused.
This one headed the process, Adam is the only idea concerning the importance of this another dimension is the same just to give us a reminder of In fact, the importance of the sin of the promises
that he has made it practically that's simple that if we follow Him and we OBEY Him, and we follow his path, it's enough, then inshallah will be among those people who have accepted the invitation to General.
While in fact, if we refuse to follow Him, then we want to reject this. And we will be from among those people who have refused, actually refuse to enter Paradise.
Why until as I said, as we go along, and as we open the floor for questions, or as questions come, we'll get into some topics and Selma, which are important topics,
from the point of view of what is happening in the Muslim world nowadays, and in particular, here in the United States.
Well, before I begin, I guess, I should define some nasm brothers have asked me to do this. Because apparently, there is some confusion, define what we mean by some nuts. and define what we mean by hedis.
shala, I'm going to define the center from every point of view, except for the point of view that's added to me my brother Ali would speak about, and that is from the point of view of arcada.
As a subject, I will have a gentleman's agreement with him, I don't touch the subject, he doesn't.
okay with you.
By the time that we finished the
you'll begin to be able to read my handwriting.
one conclusion that comes from the word soon. So
as I alluded to, depending on your field of study, depending on how you're approaching
this topic, you have a different definition for the word.
And this has caused some confusion, especially among
American brothers and sisters, where they kind of thinks this one lecture is I give a lecture, a long lecture about the importance of
said, Well, my opinions come first and as soon as okay
and if you want to, if you don't want to follow it,
Was this concept also, you hear it from some other people. And sometimes it does have the confusion of the way that different people use the word.
there were some that define differently.
But for those of Hades
and by legal
the brother mentioned that there's many different sciences that we need to know about.
Here are three of them.
And the up for legal theories. And then there's another one, which is app data, elements get into this
was each one of these three groups they discussed or they define the words to know based on how they're approaching the topic and based basically on what they want to do with the with the clump is
the one that somehow causes some somewhat of a problem is the definition of soon as given by jurists.
When we say By the way, when we say that is it is obligatory to follow the soon enough, even before I get into definition, we talked about the importance of the cinema. When we say that, the obligatory to follow this or not even before that I get into any definitions. Which one do we talk about?
To answer correctly, mainly?
Any say from the jerk point?
How many say from the legal point?
And when we talk about the importance of civil law, and its them, and the fact that we have to know, we're talking about the definition of some not from the legal theory.
Now, how did the jurists define?
I think everyone knows that. If you say this, as soon as the jury, the jury, the book, aha, they want to study actions, from the point of view of our responsibility for that action, do we have to do it? Is it recommended for us to do it? Is it permissible? Is it just like, is it forbidden?
So the jurists, how do they find the words?
This is my question. Here's the question.
I'll do this now.
Okay, now, that is
probably some better words than nothing. But basically, the jurist when he talks about when they talk about cinema, they talk about an act, which is not obligatory.
Nor is it simply permissible, something in between, which we might call a recommended acts,
and events for them basically, soon enough. And most the hub and Mundo are basically the same, same category.
So when the jurists talk about something as soon as they mean that it's not obligatory.
And this is the definition, from the jurors point of view, it has nothing to do with what we talked about when we say that the ER has very little to do with what we talked about when we say that it is obligatory upon the Muslims to follow the Sunnah.
So don't get confused by that definition. And think that assume that means something which is not obligatory
that from the jerk point of view, you can find something in the Quran. Now I'm really going to confuse you.
You can find something in the Quran something from the flow, which might be
or it might be fun.
And you can find something from the sinner, which is obligatory Muslims
depending on what you mean by the words when you say, so the jurist use the word so what they mean by that is the recommended
don't get confused between that terminology. And what we mean when we say it's obligatory to follow the sun.
Now, let's see where should we go next.
From the hydrophobia Okay, what we're going to be discussing later is from his point of view,
how do the scores of Hadith magazine defined
what kind of
Okay, so from the point of view of the score of
the tuner, they define the center as any acts as opposed to
anything at above 100%. Anything that's supposed to them approved without necessarily mentioning the CFO, but just passively approves of it.
But they also include his physical and has more physical characters, if you say that, to them has few gray hairs
as part of the significance, and because what they're worried about, or what they're concerned with, is that body of literature that is related to anything related to the problem.
Anything that comes from the bottom 100.
Anything that is narrated from the problem has no more bus monitors in them. This is what they're concerned with, and they call it ultimate.
And that's why I said this, when we talked about the SIM, there's a bleed to it to follow. We're not talking about this definition, because this would include some things which is not actually obligatory for us to follow.
In fact, I was talking with one brother earlier this system about
this when he used to sleep, like before I split your time, he used to make a snoring sound.
That doesn't mean that when we go to sleep, we should try to make a snoring sound. Anyone when we are sleeping late because this is from
one of the physical, even close physical characteristics of the Bahamas. I send them a Mahajan, the scores of ideas would say this is from the center. Okay.
a legal theorists would not tell them the legal theorists define the similar problems as
the first three we haven't seen.
And to be added to being
specific, we should really see some of his actions not necessarily.
Because they divide, they divide the actions of the problem and send them to those actions which are good, what are the three are supposed to follow and our authority in Islamic law, and those which are not, we just gave an example of one which is not just snoring.
The legal theorists will not consider that part of the cinema or at least not part of the printer that has legal authority or legal steps.
So we talked about the importance of the sooner
we're talking about this
third definition, that includes the setting the tested approvals, and the majority, let's put it this way, the majority of the actors.
But for this
one, this class here, for this workshop, we're worried about, or we'll discuss, basically, the center from the point of view of the scores of headings. In other words, we are concerned with basically
the body of literature, the body of literature that comes from or about the problem of homicide.
you might hear and we'll talk about later, how there's such thing as as a weak Heidi's or fabricated heads or something of that nature. The suddenness.
Whether we're talking about from the point of view, or legal theories point of view, all of a sudden, that's true.
As soon as the actual statements, or actual practice or actual characteristic of the problem on the system.
So there's no such thing as a weak signal, or false or fabricated. The sum that is the actual thing.
Now, how do we know about the synapse? How do we learn about the center? How do we know what the center is? Where do we find that information? That information is in the body of literature known as heavy literature?
So that's what we mean by heavy so how do we talk about it if we're talking about the literature, or the narration, whether it's written or oral, or however the case might be, that has been touched on about the sooner the problem comes
into the sooner the real things, and the hobbies or things that are narrated about
some of those narrations may be fabricated.
So you can have a fabricated headache
This is by the way, as I said, basically or alluded to this, basically, we were going to be covering yesterday.
So I'm going to go over some of it quite quickly.
Now with respect to the Teddy's literature,
is of the the narrations about certain narrations from the program.
And it's important for us to realize
and to know that this is the entire body of literature was preserved
by Allah subhanaw taala for the most informed
and effective the verse in the Quran in which many scholars point out as the proof as appropriate, and with Allah preserve the sun now the problem
What does that verse
how's that approved?
Verse says that we have we reveal the biggest
when a level of how we know that we have revealed the biggest and we don't
know how is that a proof that the somehow the problem has been?
Okay, there's another
let me put it a different way.
Some people say, if you if you mentioned that versus some people, that we have the reveal the secret and we shall preserve it, they will tell you that the victory means
that what this verse is saying that we have revealed Allah subhanho wa Taala is revealed to hold on and shall preserve the Quran.
Okay, the the point that the brother is making is that when we talk about the Quran, and we talk about the preservation of the Quran, are we just talking about the preservation of the wording of the Quran?
Or is it the wording and meanings.
But if it's both the wording and the meaning of the Quran,
we go to other places in the bottleneck versus
the brother mentioned ones and they
need to wait a minute, literally 2 billion in the nursery manual this manual delay that we have a reveal to the vicar in order to explain to mankind what has been revealed for them in this verse of the Quran, and other verses and other edits above. And this is another topic
shows that the meaning of the Quran, the true and the good meaning will go on, it only be found by looking through the Sunnah of the problem
by looking at the heydays of Pocahontas and his explanation,
even the Sahaba the Sahaba were experts in Arabic language. The Quran was revealed during the time and they saw they witnessed the event and what I was referring to
is even data sometimes they did not understand the Quran properly, without the proper commonsensical explanation.
So the meaning of the Quran, the meaning of the Quran is found, and it through the, through the explanation. And through the implementation of the Quran. By the problem comes.
Why even those who claim to reject the pseudonym completely, they fall into the trap of following the finger when it comes to implementing.
I don't want to get sidetracked by too many stories because we don't have
the time I attended a conference
was give me a comfortable sense of where in the mon someplace north of San Francisco.
And we have some brothers we attended that
they didn't let us speak to Russia because they claim that we came to kill him.
So we had to speak to his phone.
in discussing with his followers, we said for example, they as I'm sure you all know the shopkeeper they absolutely reject the idea that we have to assume that and they claim that they do not pull the suit not at all whatsoever.
For example, they pray. I don't know if they still do but they used to pray in a manner similar to us.
And we asked them how did you get that prayer was this perform come from they said this is from Abraham. As Allah they have narrations back to Abraham was the problem.
They don't follow him.
So we asked them we have similar questions or we have submitted questions since they asked us many questions
which most of us have 19 Really? And almost all the most of us have 19
we asked them from the fraud now then it just go into the fraud what is the punishment for the seat?
What is the punishment for the season
you know if you say it in Arabic you ruin the whole thing
because you may take the American you may not know what it means
in English what is the punishment foresees.
Okay, now I'll ask you that was doesn't every
Okay, just says who kept the gift? Okay, that's all it says. And one of the one of the guidance of the format system with respect to explaining operon is that sometimes Allah subhanho wa Taala uses general terms and both the system has shown us that it needs specific things. Sometimes Allah subhana wa tada uses unconstrained or Muslim terms that are less than the provinces elements was his role to show us what exactly it means. So the years Allah subhana wa tada or is us to cut the head of the thief
and the end in the Arabic language is what
it can be all the way up to here
can be all the way up to here. So, all of these records sorry for what they all said it is because the hand is a decent
they claim that we do not follow the signal they say we reject the signal. That student has no source no authority whatsoever. So we had some Well, you get this
almost no more Arabs anyway. So it was it was kind of a useless conversation,
to try to tell them that yet actually can be anything up to here. And the only way that we know for certain is is from here is because of the thumbnail of the problem.
So when Allah subhana wa tada promises to preserve the vicar, it could not possibly mean just the wording of the Quran.
But it must mean the wording of the Quran. And also its explanation its meaning of sound and the tuning of the promises.
Now how did Allah subhana wa tada preserve the sun no one in the same way that Alyssa was Allah preserve the Quran. And it was through mankind. Right abubaker. Remember, they collected the mythos and so forth. Well, also with respect to the hadith of Protestantism, and it from the earliest years, there's many things that Hubbard did, to make sure that the adage the words of the Father said to them were preserved. If for example, one of them
the ways in which the signal was preserved.
Those those studies before realize that we haven't gotten to anything related to stem
cell, before the next conference has finished and telework, it's
one thing they used to do is they used to record the editing services. And
now with respect to recording, recording, in general, I want to ask just two questions, make sure that we're all clear above this point
is that in order for something to be preserved?
Does it have to have been recorded physically written down.
So in order for something to have been preserved, it's not necessarily the case that it has to be recorded. Right.
for example, Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.
Many people will know that from the time of Lincoln, even some people have never written it down. I've never sat down and written form but they know it. Four score and seven years ago, our boss's boss, what's on this nation, and so forth and so on. If you grew up, I never read it in any book, but I know what memorize
before I ever thought, any written form, so recording is not necessarily required reserves.
And one of the attacks upon the student as we talked about in the lecture earlier today.
That's how the kuffaar in particular tried to attack and make the people dealt with sooner. One of the ways that they made them Delta sooner was by claiming that the sooner was not recorded.
Well, first of all, it does not need to be recorded to be preserved necessarily.
But also we should also keep in mind that if something is recorded, Is that sufficient for it to have been preserved?
Okay, these these points are something that the scores have had you know very well, that for something to be preserved doesn't necessarily mean that it
has to been recorded. And just because it's recorded doesn't mean that it was preserved.
Correct. But anyway,
the we know that from the earliest times, and it's now
the edits of the proper system were recorded.
For example, even during the time of the problem, I'm assessing them a bill luminometer bill as one of the Sahaba. He used to record everything that he heard from the problem.
Why even when some people told him not to do that, maybe the processing of the human being maybe he gets upset, he doesn't want you to record what he's saying.
When they told us through the look
of the live anomalies as he went through the process, and then when he asked him about it was a process in him for them to record for nothing but the truth leaves.
And we have actually, many examples of heads of the system that are are recorded from the same problem. In fact, his letters that he wrote to other rulers, his letters that he wrote to governors and so forth is actually his head is no different from
from his heads. So the recording of the heads of both disciplines began during
some of the Sahaba had their own collections of headaches.
Now, before I think you knew,
all of you who know me, you know that I'm used to writing, not speaking, I don't like speaking. And when I rise, I use both the beauty of an articles in the footnote, that's my theory.
There's some stories, by the way about this. He had written down 500, Eddie's
and then he couldn't sleep one night, and finally he got up and he burned it.
And I asked him why he did that. He said, because he's an idiot that I heard from other people. And I don't know whether or not they're authentic. From the problem hermeticism they, the story is not true.
There's also another story is on the facade that he thought about recording the pseudonym. And he discussed with the Sahaba for about a month. And then finally, he decided that the people before him were destroyed the people before the Muslims who are destroyed when they begin to bring another book for another writing to compete with their books. And so therefore, he gave up the idea of recording. Also, this story is not true. There's no
it cannot be authentically verified. Anyway, just did you have a question?
connection is completed.
what was happening during the lifetime of the problem, hundreds of
you have had it written, recorded, and you had the record.
But it seems clear from additive process ism, that you did not allow the full line and needs to be reported on the same
sheet, someone's use monitors on the same lead, for example, on the same bone views, more realistic terms that they were using,
they will not be recorded as a stay on the same item on the same writing material. But as we saw, for example, I've doubled the nominal class during the lesson from the system used to report it, and others kochava used to record the Quran. And in fact, deposits I send them.
To me who's done a lot of research and the recording of Eddie's also has a book about pretending to be or the the secretaries or the writers of the Oklahoma City. And he has found up to now over 60 people who were their job was to write for the promises. Some of them were specialized guests in writing put on.
So when the prophets have said and received revelation, for example, Maria was one of them. When he received revelation, he would ask for one of these friends who was just to put on to read to record that revelation. But his headaches, and his letters and others were jobs of other people to record. So they were actually both being recorded during the lifetime of the problem on the system, but added the course and it will talk about of that amount of literature. So we're not saying we're not saying don't misunderstand me.
We're not saying that all of the edits and processes are recorded during the lifetime of the mahana system. And we're not saying that
all the vlog was recorded during that time, but not all the headaches and problems.
I think this one is the right
we can say that
to record the
draft to the writers
the editor referred to by the President said that whoever's written anything from the other neuron should erase this and it is recorded Bible cycle for three and this is a Muslim is authenticated
because of time constraints I didn't go into all of this in in great detail but
the principle is you take that had a rototiller and you take many other Eddie's like the headaches of of the living without the headaches of OSHA during the farewell
during the farewell during the pilgrimage the hedges province
in which the prophets I send them gave a hookah and Abu shocking to the problem amateur Silliman said I would like this football recorded to the province. So I'm told one of the scribes to record it for the problem homicides in them, I mean, the recording for OSHA, well, I did close to the end of his his life in which he was going to record something. And he This shows that the prohibition
of recording it, if it is found in the country, is either as you alluded to either it is specific with respect to recording headings and Quran on the same sheet or whatever. Or it is the early command from the brother system. And it was abrogated by labor later commanded so forth. And he's different scholars have discussed this and come up with different views. The important thing is that we know that by the death of the problem, Thomas assylum, he had given a general or there was a general understanding that it was permitted to record the edits. And
so the idea to refer to as a, like an umbrella, we have plenty of evidence to show that there is no prohibition against no general prohibition against writing the headaches and problems as
well, with respect to how much headaches, how much had it was recorded during the lifetime of problem during the lifetime the problem has arisen during the time of the Sahaba, and so forth. I recommend you read a book, it's available in both English and Arabic, so none of your excuse.
And I think also it's an order by the way, if you have any Indonesian brothers here because I think it's also an Indonesian.
This is a chef must have allowed him his PhD dissertation studies in early Hades literature, and which he discusses this, this topic in great detail.
And in fact, we even have
from the from the earliest we have even a cipher or a collection of Hadith from a war era, there was passed on to one of his students and so forth that I continue to exist as a separate work and continues to exist nowadays.
The size of Hamlet in
this paper was passed on to his students. This is from mobile data added for mobile
did he pass on to a student
but not too
long to preserve
the collection of edited as about 136 heads from Aveda that he dictated to his students
what this what you're going to find why I bring it why even mentioned this is this. There were many early books, many early collections.
Usually in the name of cipher, some kind of a heads up for the purposes of Abdullah
who said that there's only two things in his life that he treasures. And that is the piece of land that the boat system has given him and that's the hippo or that collection of Eddie's from from hamsters.
Well, usually What's happened? Is it what happens to these early works, why we don't see them around that much nowadays,
is that they were incorporated into later works. So for example, I'm looking at that
muslera is a very large collection of honey.
Yes, about this thing on my bookshelf, the large collection of heads and it is arranged according to the the the hobbit who narrated the headies
so for example, all the editors have worked over here, and then almost and then optimize and then early and then for example.
So what you'll find is that this book
was passed on by by my mother and also to other students, and others or passes on to other students, and also to Mmm, and it continued to exist as a separate book.
Okay, I'm sorry, but
continue to exist as a separate book and
officers have been found recently that continued to pass on until I think something like the eighth or ninth centuries.
But if you compare this book and you go to the Muslim,
you will find underneath the headed dissolvable radar with this exact same chain. All of the pieces are here, except for two or three headings, I don't remember
exactly the same wording everything.
Well, if you go to other books,
for example, other books taken from other students of others, if you go to cell bodies for a Muslim, you will find the exact same Hadith. For example, I think 99 out of 137 are in Central Florida. So a Muslim with the same chain going back to what I did. And so. So in this particular case, we see that the book continues to exist as its own book. But we also see how it is incorporated into other works. And this is basically what happened with the early work. There was many early aughts schelotto, minion, his dissertation shows us
that many people had their own collections of editors.
But what happened to them is that they were basically
They were basically consumed or put into the larger later works.
So the earlier works, the earlier smaller works, we don't have any more many of them are lost. When we have reference to this guy having a book, this man having a book, this was the name and so forth. But they were captured and they had been collected in the major later, larger works. Now this is like some people in some of these earlier books don't exist anymore. Some people thought there were no early books, no, there weren't really books. But because of the nature of the way this might be been collected the information, they knew they didn't refer to the book itself. But those rare, they did some things, but they would rarely refer to like the cipher, they would just give you the chain.
And you would not realize it's from that book unless you studied in detail and so on all these are all from the book.
So we have from the from the early years, the recording of Hades, but as we said that is not sufficient to preserve something that by itself, the fact that edits were recorded doesn't mean necessarily that they were preserved. But also we have,
from the early years, a very important science, from the point of view of
of heavy studies, and that is the science of ideas.
What does it
this is part of taking care of the fact that recording by itself is not sufficient to make some music,
this science is to make sure
or to study the people who are passing on literature to make sure that they are acceptable. And passing on that.
And what we mean by
example is if someone comes to you right now, and says your car's been thrown away, throw it away.
Okay, what's your
this brother comes in someone who sees an honest person, I know this person for 20 years, and he's an honest person. So would that be sufficient to make you run out? interclub
you know that? Yes, that's true. I mean, you have to look also for the
question about this marriage.
So, you know, when you're before you're born,
But it's not sufficient.
In America to talk about some people in the
Most people, and it worked to swear by looking and without Allah will fulfill their commands. Yes, I would never take anybody.
Why is that?
Okay, so basically you need two kinds of requirements.
One is more requirements.
One is more requirement that you know that the person is not a liar. And the other one we could call it I guess, academic requirement.
As the beauty of teaching handwritten English, you can make up your own method.
Because it turns out the duck brother instead of things mildly, actually sort of,
and you ran out there and wasn't your score on somebody else's cards. So you want to make sure that he has both kinds of qualities, the moral qualities if he's not a liar,
that you can trust what he's saying. And also you have to make sure that he has that he is proficient. Then when he passes on knowledge, she is someone who passes it on correct.
to jump ahead, we're talking about the end user to jump ahead a little bit if someone for example, is narrating to you from his memory,
you have to make sure that he has a good memory
and if someone is narrating to from his books,
you have to make sure that his books are in order as an accountant would say, you have to make sure that his books are good. You know, especially that that
you know some people did not have very good books.
And if you know that about a person you don't accept and edit from books. Now when did this this concept and this kind of checking when did it when did it begin?
After the fitness? Oh, that brings us to another story. I hope I don't forget it. Fitness, remind me of the fitness story.
This is after the nanny.
Can I say and since I'm the teacher here what I say goes.
I say begin from the earliest times in Islam, the idea of checking and making sure that people are narrating properly not just checking, making sure that they are honest. And the Sahaba used to check each other sometimes. For example, the Buddha during his lifetime,
someone brought up the question about the inheritance for grandmother.
Well, the book is sent out by nothing in the book of a law of the sun, not about the inheritance of the grammar. So someone and I don't remember who
it says that she receives one sixth the boats are seldom used to give her one six.
So other book is knowing that person was an honest person but me this is something major that he had never heard about. He asked him to produce a witness for what you think and to make sure that what he's narrating is correct.
And even an even clearer example of this was their goal is from the time of armor cutoff.
So we're talking about the first 200 years of work at Walmart
he came to visit him
yes permission center. No response.