Jamal Zarabozo – The Modernist Movement Part 5

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The Hager's approach to science is discussed, emphasizing the need for consistency in criticizing claims and cautioning about sharia and sharia culture. The speakers also address "headach they've been experiencing," the use of "head" in various situations, and the importance of evidence and evidence as evidence of actions and actions that are not part of the sharia. The transcript is also difficult to summarize as it appears to be a jumbled mix of characters and symbols.

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			Now we'll
		
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			put in a woman senior
		
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			view from the from the No, this is our
		
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			first lecture in this series
		
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			about the Neo modernist movement
		
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			who are from outside,
		
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			we get we begin by giving a history of the development of the movement. And then we talked about the
influence that this movement has today.
		
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			And then in the third lecture, we retreat we critique the basic premises are the philosophy behind
the movement.
		
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			One of the last lecture, we discussed their methodology.
		
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			In this lecture, we're going to discuss some of the specific arguments that are presented by many of
the people of the Australia.
		
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			And in one sense, this lecture is probably the most important of all, five, so far,
		
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			because in this lecture, and I'm going to be presenting some arguments, which many people who are
not actually
		
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			part of the modern this movement, they are influenced by these arguments,
		
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			simply because they perhaps are not studied some topics in detail. So, therefore, they are easily
fooled. And they hear these arguments from someone, and they believe in these arguments, and they
turn internally. And it gives these arguments God is after them.
		
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			So in that sense, and it is actually for for those of you who don't really care about the modernist
movement, and I don't think it's important, isn't probably the
		
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			most important lecture, as I mentioned,
		
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			as I mentioned in previous lecture,
		
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			and it to be
		
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			an it's a point of view of the diamond thinking that you need to be considered one of the modernists
		
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			you'll be considered part of this morning.
		
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			And it doesn't mean that you have to, for example, for this lecture, I wrote down 25 of their major
arguments need to be modern, this doesn't mean you have to have all of these 25 specific arguments
that fit on this point, I disagree with them and other who gave a list of the
		
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			characteristic and arguments that they have. And in the agenda movements and the basis behind it.
And what it is exactly, this is the main Hager way of thinking, well, if you have that way of
thinking, regardless of whether you have all of these ideas that some of them are presenting, or
some of them are even just a few of them. And it is the way of thinking, which is kind of linear
movement, versus the way of thinking any which is more dangerous than these specific
		
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			things. And many people are influenced by these requirements, we have to discuss them and refute
them. And it's similar to the case
		
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			of the modular. And if you look to the modular, basically, they agree on the five, the five basic
premises are observed.
		
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			And then after that,
		
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			you cannot find to
		
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			agree except on those five basic premises. So it's not necessary for people at the same moment
		
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			to agree on specific arguments, but their way of thinking.
		
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			And there were there any damage would be similar would be the same.
		
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			Originally, I broke down the into the
		
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			these arguments is about 27. As I mentioned,
		
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			I broke them down in a very nice way. I thought then as I looked at it before this lecture, and
actually it's not a very nice way the way that I broke them down. So I'm going to I'm not actually
going to be lecturing in the order that they that I prepared my notes. So please, excuse me,
sometimes it looks like I don't know what I'm doing.
		
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			To begin with, we'll actually we'll move from one area to the other any problem I think that
		
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			comes over
		
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			to begin with in the areas
		
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			The operator of the area of belief
		
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			instead of just for society having the sun and Mohammed acid, we discussed the review, none of them
really discussed Africa and the principles of Africa.
		
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			And those actually,
		
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			what's the reason behind the reason behind that anyway, most of them do not do not discuss arcade as
such, because he does something very unimportant to them. And what a person believes in general for
this movement, and isn't that important to me, I need to talk to some people will tell you this
athlete is the most important thing in them, if your athlete is correct, then inshallah the rest
will follow. That can for them, they are mostly concerned about things in this life.
		
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			And how to arrange the person just like little property that to them is not really that important.
So therefore, they usually did not discuss matters of appeal. But
		
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			even though that's the case, you can still see in some of the writings, many things which touch on
the idea or on topics related to either
		
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			one of these was discussed next time of this test.
		
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			And that's the idea of whether
		
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			or human reasoning takes precedence or what has been related from the problem from a cinema, which
one of these should take precedence or not?
		
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			Why Actually, this is a question of Aikido. And it is actually a question about a they discuss it a
lot, and not in the scientific way. But almost all of the people to the common, almost a common
denominator among all of the the modernist movement, they say without question as it was as Mises
points since the time and probably hundreds of them, and it will say it as if it is something given
that the law often takes precedence over and nothing was mentioned earlier, organic Mohammedan was
early in sadc. Magazine earlier this year, he had an had an article again, where he said this and
often and he clearly takes precedence over an apple or Apple judge it
		
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			was I said, inshallah, with that point, next time,
		
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			whenever next time, maybe
		
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			we discuss the
		
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			single agenda, or the characteristics exam, and the sooner roadmap compared to the characteristics
of the Astra near moment.
		
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			Much,
		
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			much of what they talk about, actually has to do with assuming
		
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			was a mixture, I'm going to give quite a bit of time to
		
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			the to the suiting up, as I mentioned earlier,
		
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			one of the goals of many of them, is really to remove the tumor from its proper place in Islam. And
also with respect to the Quran,
		
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			or with respect to the field, they also,
		
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			of course, have a number of statements that we should the number of arguments that we should
consider. And it with respect to
		
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			your many lectures, and when you when you read many books that people who are influenced by this
movement.
		
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			And they may not say this explicitly, but it's very clear from their argument, that the criticism,
or the system of hedis,
		
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			nothing hadn't been that hasn't been used in the old days,
		
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			is not sufficient.
		
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			And what they did in the past is not sufficient. And we have to look at it again, that in the life
of modern science and using what they call and they borrowed this term,
		
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			directly from the critics of the Bible. As I mentioned in the second, the first lecture was the
relationship between the modernist movements in Christianity and Judaism, also within an ultimate
within Islam, what it says we have to use, the higher the higher what is called the higher criticism
of Hadoop. And you hear this a lot in there and many of the lectures and it's clear, when people
take Hadees that are considered say, for example, from say Buhari and say Muslim,
		
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			whether or refuse them as in the example that we gave earlier, will result in German data, what
they're saying, in essence, john, is that the way or the conclusion of these earlier scholars, even
though there is demand in the Hadith from scholars of Hadith, and their methodology was not
sufficient. And we have to look at Hadith in a new way nowadays.
		
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			But if you look very closely, for example,
		
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			if you read
		
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			if you read germander, if you read all of these have a husband karate, and he's not one of them has
come up with a complete or consistent methodology of criticizing
		
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			and they all they say that Jan is clear from them that we have to look at Jesus, and he again a new
way, but they never offer you any what is the new way or how is
		
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			We should then just headed into claiming that the way of old scholars was not sufficient. And in
fact, if you look closely at their, at their writings, it seems simply that they take Hadees that
they like, and they reject it that they don't like.
		
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			That's the new higher criticism.
		
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			There's only exception to this is the Devon able to find was again,
		
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			suicide at McLaren, the one of the founding fathers of the of the Athenian movement.
		
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			So for it to be accepted has two preconditions.
		
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			Number one, it must be consistent with the spirit of the Quran.
		
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			Number two, must be consistent with APA and human experience, human reasoning and human experience.
Were third and must not be contradictory to established historical facts. These are the this is
		
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			what they're inherently that in the first lecture. And it is one of the founders of the afternoon
		
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			when he rejects many ideas, and in fact, he rejects most of them as a source of law in Islam, where
he claims that these are the conditions Yanni using higher prisons, and those are the conditions
that the headaches must meet.
		
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			Well, the problem is that if you study these conditions,
		
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			you can ask yourself, and it works, the difference between these conditions
		
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			and the conditions that have been applied,
		
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			and even the time of employment.
		
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			Number one, and he says must be consistent with the spirits of the poor.
		
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			Well, that's an interesting,
		
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			interesting condition. Because only if you're going to lay down conditions scientifically, any of
the conditions should be rather specific.
		
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			What is the spirit of the product?
		
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			And how can you define the spirit of the product.
		
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			If you go through the Quran, for example, you'll see that this
		
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			journey, the Quran, for example, emphasizes that believers should be forgiving, they should be
merciful, and this kind of thing. So you can say that it is in the spirit of the Quran, that we
should be forgiving and merciful. And the brothers should be any Brotherhood in the man that we
don't have love.
		
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			And you could claim that this is part of the spirit of the Quran.
		
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			So based on this premise,
		
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			and this is part of the problem of the of this movement, that idea movements are not specific, and
they leave the door open for almost anybody.
		
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			If you take this premise and go through the ideas of the problem system,
		
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			or you go through the headaches of tab 123 people did not go with the policy, tell them for the rest
of the group.
		
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			What is the politics in them do to them? After they came back to me the
		
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			departments I send them, and he told the people to make digital or not to have anything to do with
them, even there was during that period.
		
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			And you could argue on the basis of this, that this goes against the spirit of the future rather
than that way just because he committed a mistake or he was lazy.
		
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			And he were promised they are the enemy. This is not a sufficient
		
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			condition to criticize edits, because there's no definition for the spiritual.
		
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			Well, if we look to them, what have you seen, what they said
		
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			is that if any headache is shared, it will be rejected. Whichever means if it contradicts anything
stronger than for example of a headache contradicts before on both against the clear meaning of the
Quran. And there's no way you can any reconsolidate the meanings of the two then the editors
rejected. What this is one of the conditions of the hydretain scholars have had these degraded
heavies Ladyman was provided by Muslim versus actually stricter than just as Ronnie said.
		
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			And in his his condition. The second condition he said it must be consistent with Apple and human
experience
		
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			must be consistent with Apple and human experience. Were any problems course with this?
		
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			With this condition, first of all, well, there's two problems
		
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			because it contains two main terms up in the human experience. And the first problem is who's after.
		
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			Now we're talking about suicide and that sounds awkward. Danny, what goes against what he believes
what he thinks is correct. We have to reject.
		
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			And then the problem again is if you just if you leave it open to Apple, and it has many there's
many things even in the Quran itself, that people are my projects
		
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			that go against any help people understand what is happening in this room. We'll get the
		
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			roll Mr. Harris. Anyone who studies the signs of the fabricated head is
		
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			also the
		
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			Although today's discussion is first of all, of course, much closer or much longer
		
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			than what
		
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			this was a sponsor.
		
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			And it was said that if there's any Hadees that goes clearly against
		
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			Danny's any irrefutable, irrefutable, we women, and it's something that is clear, there's no way
that it could be
		
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			it could be violated, or something that they know for sure was correct. If anything goes against
this, then also they will reject it. So this is a sign of a headache, which was fabricated. For
example, there is the third, that after 100 years, the day of judgment will come.
		
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			So the scholars who lived 200 years after the Prophet that said that this edit cannot be corrected,
		
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			and besides the fact, of course, it's almost all fabricated, I did have some problems with the
chain. But this is also a principle Have you been to look at the,
		
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			at the, at the test to see if that actually goes against what they know, we're also human experience
		
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			also can be very tricky.
		
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			Because human experience, it can make you deny something which is actually true. And actually those
ideas of the provinces in them,
		
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			which is, and he shows us this very clearly, that there can be a time when you see something in your
life, or you experience something but because some conditions are different, or some anyway, some
difference between what's your experience and what to put on or what the headings said.
		
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			I knew what you saw will go against what the Parana with the headings. But you have to realize that
there's some reason for it. And you cannot just on the basis of human experience, when it rejects
what we're looking for on what the content
		
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			and the headings are supposedly made that very clear, is one of the one of the Sahaba came to him
and told him that his grin on his stomach was bothering.
		
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			So the proper question for them what
		
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			the Bible says them and told him to give that man Honey,
		
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			I need a 10 inch apart for from Danny.
		
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			Well, this happened three times. What did he say in the lead up
		
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			to the cola
		
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			policy thing worth over 200. That is that is true.
		
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			But Danny, the summit of you brothers on In other words,
		
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			if you if you study this idea, and think about this idea, first of all, it might not have been the
person's stomach this morning.
		
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			And he may have had pains on here, or on the side could have been kidneys or the liver could have
been anything.
		
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			Or in fact that he might not even had any pain, but he felt psychologically that he had something
and in many things someone could experience. And based on that experience, they reject something
either in the Quran or
		
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			so human experience by itself man is not
		
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			we have to be careful about that, because it is not. It is not sufficient. And especially, there's
one thing very important that the occupy movement has to have to consider and have to be aware of
with respect to the Hadith of the Prophet Mohammed.
		
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			Because the problem
		
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			and this aspect was pure and understood by the stories of
		
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			the prophets, I seldom was not speaking like any one of us.
		
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			The protocol kirlian was speaking. And he was being guided by God and given revelation
		
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			from Allah subhana wa Tada. And many of the things that he said during his time, when he only, for
example, have only recently been proven.
		
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			And in the process doesn't talk about things related to the unseen elite. The power system talks
about things related to the shittier person and talks about things related to science, which is the
only reasonable group. So in speech, we cannot judge it just like anybody else's speech.
		
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			And because he is talking about things that, for example, at that time, when the scores, I did not
know that it is true, in the same way, but we know what is true today, for example.
		
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			And it earlier, people they rejected headed to the process, and I'm about the dog looking in abroad
that how it should be clean, and so forth. Of course, recently, we know that the kind of worms that
the goat contains
		
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			on his tongue and if you look in your bowl, it was very important that you clean the bowl properly.
This is a matter of the last time we checked here because they do not understand that we have to
realize that when it comes to the proposal, we may not be able to understand everything that you
said. Basically, those things related to the unseen are things that we haven't proven or experienced
yet, and those things related to the shittier. So therefore, it's very important that we look at
this now this is one of the reasons why this knot is very important. I need to look at who we are
		
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			getting this information from, to make sure that these people are reliable and they're not making
mistakes. And therefore, when we make sure that this is correct, even if that it has some meaning
that we cannot completely understand, and we don't have the right to reject it, because we're not
talking about any human being speech, we're talking about the speech of the problem I'm assessing.
Well, this is an A, this is a very important point. And it is, as many people forget, because
they're judging the hedis and promises to them as if we're judging your statement or micro minority,
human beings.
		
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			Secondly, and this is related both to or to now, also related to food. And besides questioning, the
Hadith of the Prophet Mohammed says,
		
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			it's very common for the people of this moment to question the role of the Sunnah industry itself.
		
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			And to claim the carrier a great part, perhaps the majority of the subnet actually is not to be
considered part of the city as
		
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			one of their one of their claims. And before I get into that, let me just note some, some statements
here. First of all, this was the essence of Juma talk that he gave in the summer conference in
Stanford, California in June 1988. Danny's essence was trying to show that there's many, or there's
much of the sunlight is not actually sure yet not to be full
		
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			of mystery in our he wrote this most likely most of what has been narrated from him and from the
policy concerning the matters of this room. except we're about that. And I'm
		
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			not sure what he means by that is my shift in Arabic language, what you meant by that he wasn't sure
what he meant by that. And in any case, the thing that's most of what is narrated from the
provinces, and then that is related to the junior is that most of us is not part of the Syrian,
		
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			Mohammed Amara, and He even went further.
		
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			He said that's what can be concluded of the sooner that is related to matters of the ESA. And any
matter of this world is not deep.
		
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			Anything related to this Junior has not been
		
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			and therefore it was even during the problems
		
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			even during the province famous was a matter for sure up for writing write for he had for acceptance
for rejection for additional change, even during the time of the
		
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			well husband throb in his lecture.
		
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			And in his lecture to University of Khartoum about this area.
		
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			When it seems very clear that happens Robbie is trying to make the students who are listening to him
doubt the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad says, This is the only conclusion that you can get from
his,
		
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			from his, from his lecture that close to the source No, it's no guarantees as soon as the source of
art is the second source as well. And it deals with more details in the Quran. But it also has much
more room for human involvement. First of all, humans must distinguish between what is strong and
what they're weak at.
		
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			Secondly, the to assume that contain laws to be followed by everybody and things that the politician
in general as a human and things that the process will entail as a runner after the hedgerow which
are not meant to be followed. And therefore, again human beings have to make he has to see which one
of these
		
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			are you any witness before before. Certainly, he said, although the student has more details than
the
		
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			changes in time place, and new events in life make it very difficult to derive new rulings from it,
because there are no or little similarities in this.
		
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			One, this ad in this statement actually is trying to say anyway, if we try to follow the sooner
because of your events and time and places, and we tried to make graphs based on some that will be
very difficult to follow. And then finally, he says that the singer is partly independent source and
partly implementing to put on and he says, as a dealer, before you start Are you there are many
contradictions and Hadith which lead to the conclusion was one of them must be abrogated. But this
cannot be done without determining and in the history of the abuser. And all of this.
		
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			All of this discussion from Robbie, what was the lengthy passages I summarized here, and it seems
very clear that he's trying to reduce the importance of the sooner and especially the sooner in
Islamic law.
		
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			With this,
		
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			and in this concept of this way of thinking also has been
		
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			some source for this ending and the Jewish and the Christian Aphrodite movement because
		
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			And it was important for the Jews and the Christians to try to differentiate between what was human
and what was divine in them.
		
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			And they came to the point they realize that much of what they believed in actually isn't divine
sources, but it is from humans.
		
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			And in fact, when their peace, when the Christian faith leads them they own the Jewish rabbis agreed
upon the claims of revelation from Allah that everyone
		
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			has to accept. So therefore, there was a strong moment in both the Jewish and the Christianity
modernists moment to distinguish between the human and the divine, in their, in their religious and
this era passed on to the, to the,
		
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			to the Muslim modernist movement.
		
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			and older, we didn't have that problem that existed in the Jews and Christians, but they're trying
to differentiate between the human and divine and Islam First of all, by by trying to differentiate
between the Birmingham assassin as the Messenger of God and as a human being. And also, as I'll
discuss later, we have done, they're trying to differentiate between the Sharia and the threat of
the Boko Haram, which is a silly Shama I will, I will discuss, gentlemen, if we have done
		
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			any run this point with respect to the, to the terminal departments within them, and what actions it
is and what statements are considered part of the Sharia.
		
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			We discussed this in great detail in the class last year.
		
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			One of unfortunately, one of the worst, because it is now one of the worst books,
		
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			or one of the worst passages that you will find on the topic of, of our little servo the actions of
the provinces. And then when the worst recessions have been,
		
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			we will have collapsed.
		
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			And he writes news presenting basically there, the modernist
		
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			view or the sooner
		
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			we approve, basically, we offer about five proofs, that the sooner is not all to be considered part
of the shittier.
		
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			One of their posts is that the province incident did many things.
		
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			And in many actions, that report to the human nature, which actually he could not really do anything
about,
		
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			such as how tall he was, how short he was, with filler, Harry had these characteristics, or the way
he moved away, he's still doing any of these kind of things would actually,
		
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			according to the scores of these things, I'm not meant to be portable, they're not necessarily any
that you have to follow them. But they are simply a
		
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			sign that these things are oriented, permissible. Well, if you take these actions, and you say that
they are not part of the shitty app, what do you mean by that is they are not meant to be poor? What
does that mean? There's nothing wrong with it? Well, if you say they are part of the shit in the
sense that they prove that these actions are optimal that this is also correct. But the problem of
lasagna, people, most of them, they take this as evidence with Danny showing this reaction to the
promises. And part of the tuna is in fact not to be taken as part of the shittier. Well, in fact,
this is something is MOBA certainly is mobile, and there's evidence that it was permissible. This is
		
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			actually rolling this video
		
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			is one of the words of the Sharia. And so therefore, even these actions are part of the city. And
		
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			secondly, they take as a proof, and you're very famous headed for the policy
		
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			concerning the enemy before the Battle of other when one of the Sahaba aquaponic system they were
they were willing to take a certain position.
		
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			And one of the hover asked, Is this a revelation from Allah or any disposition, something that all
of us have had with dialectology to take this position?
		
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			In fact, your opinion and a strategy war
		
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			was a process and then told him that it was his opinion in a scheduled war, to learn for the mandate
in that case, and we should move over there because it's a better place. Well, first of all had to
decide it is not authentic study this idea, this idea is now the tentacles rejected by the Dalai
Lama, in other words, a well known story in the books of theater, but the books of theater do not
have the same standards for recording things.
		
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			And even very loosely including many things which are not authentic, like many even things which are
known to be fabricated, you can find it in the books. Therefore, Johnny, the story isn't authentic.
Obviously, we cannot use it as a proof
		
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			that any there's some aspect of the sooner that you do not need to need to form. But even even if it
were authentic, even if it were true,
		
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			what is the proof from what is the object, the proof that they want to or they want you to drive
from it? Is that the policy I send them maybe she had some time and
		
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			We're not obliged to follow the detail. This is only the conclusion that they want to want you to
come up with. Whether it's the debate among the scholars whether or not the promises that have
actually made this too hard or not, most of the scholars say that the process and him didn't make
it.
		
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			And effective living claims that this is the type of guy that type of worship of Allah subhanaw
taala, to make his dad to exert yourself guiding to find the truth concerning a matter. And so he
said, the focus has been embedded like any other human being as a form of the event.
		
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			We're but the point is that all of this goes resistance, Allah subhanho wa Taala urges us to follow
them in order to take in an example.
		
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			As I mentioned earlier in the earlier lecture, and it says almost nine without Oregon's US
department, public system and take him as an example. It is inconceivable, from our lesson how to
read data to make clear or to accept something the politician did, which was wrong enough, correct.
		
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			And he This is known as people felt about the bubble system and his actions, and his speech and his
statements, his actions in the period as forming this, and that also no such thing as a sort of
surprise disappeared, or what the things that almost man would die, from the problem hunter villain,
and all of these things that have just improved. So even if the politics and the media,
		
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			and even if we ignore that debate, and we say that he didn't make it to the head, he probably almost
nine without orders have to obey Him, meaning that if he ever made he had and he was incorrect, and
is it dead, then all this kind of data would have would have corrected him
		
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			of his mistakes. So therefore, any of the tools that they're trying to drive from this discipline
system, and maybe it's again, it's not our obligation to photos. And she has, first of all, as I
said, the, the story they present is not authentic. And secondly, and whether or not you made it to
the head, it doesn't matter, because having made
		
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			lots of what data would have, would have corrected
		
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			for what it is that they use.
		
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			And enter probably
		
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			the strongest, strongest evidence has to do with the
		
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			headings of cross pollinating The details are that good enough?
		
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			Well, I just had is Apollo seven.
		
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			And he stated explicitly to sell into Sabah that you are more knowledgeable of the affairs of this
Junior of your junior than I am.
		
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			What have you said in his head, he is very clearly the first of all, and he the way they always
present it, which is not the authentic way of the scholars of Hadith scholars edited upon is that
the poet says Helen told them not to cross pollinate the big trees, and that the alchemy of the year
should be greater. But they did not cross pollinate them. And then they came to the prophets, I send
them and told them that
		
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			for many days, they said that their output was less. And he said, it said to them, that they are no
more knowledgeable in the affairs of doing it. And then the problem.
		
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			First of all, as I said, if you look to this headache, the way it has been authentically narrated
the prophets, I tell them NATO ordered them
		
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			need to stop what they're doing, nor did he tell them that it would be better for them not to do it.
But if you simply start Danny, perhaps, if you leave it, it will be better. So the process and and
neither ordered them, nor did he put nor did he tell them specifically that
		
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			what they're doing is incorrect. Secondly, also a very important aspect of this, retirees and their
argument is what is the process and the mean by the affairs of your union?
		
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			First of all, you This is the only heading that we can find in this niche that supposedly the
provinces that I'm talking about some of the above this of this Junior way told them that they are
more knowledgeable in this union. And here.
		
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			We're looking at this headiest and we study all deadheaded we see that for example,
		
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			things which are based on human experience, which change over time the politics and them did not
		
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			run into some detail as to how to how to make arms how to how to grow, how to sew or how to make
clothing. And you will never find any ideas of this nature in which the provinces sit and discuss
		
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			why actually this idea can be used as evidence against them, when you think about in this manner,
because
		
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			we seem to not discuss these aspects of the duty. So then the question is then what did he discuss?
He discussed the dean and everything he discussed as part of
		
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			everything the policy has been discussed as part of the deal, because he did not he did not discuss
or talk about these aspects that are related to jr which changed or
		
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			Time and which are based on our experience. So this actually added to the Netherlands with the
provinces. And he did not concern himself with the things of this dunya. And when he stated he made
a statement in order, or statement of fact, that it was something related to the deen, which we must
believe in. And we must
		
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			also, with respect to the ideas concerning medicine, enable us these areas.
		
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			I wrote an article on this topic. So I'm not going to discuss in detail but basically, what they're
saying is that there's some headaches with the processing of about medicine that they don't believe
in. And this is evidence that we don't have this as many things that, that we don't have to for that
there are, well if you study all of the ideas that they criticize. And by the way, Maurice bouquet
is one of the people who criticize these ideas. And unfortunately, his book, The Bible, Koran and
science is given as a book of Gallup, although the section is very bad. And if you study all of
these ideas that they talk about, they are either things the modern science knows nothing about, or
		
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			the modern science has proven today.
		
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			And if for example, the ln
		
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			any modern science hasn't disproven these things. Well, he includes these as those IDs, which are
slowly going against modern science, modern science has never disproven these kind of orbits, that
the
		
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			what the heat of the summertime comes from the
		
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			present.
		
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			While this head is
		
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			talking about the relationship between the heat of the summertime and the Hellfire, and is there any
scientist nowadays who says that, on what basis to be criticized, does he know the relationship
between the heat of the summertime and the Hellfire, and he has no way that he can, he was the head
is his trauma, that these people say that this head is against modern science.
		
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			I just got
		
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			the last the last way that they tried to avoid again, applying this
		
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			agreement with as many aspects of the seminar which are not part of the shittier.
		
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			They divide what the policy has been embedded into different than it was divided in life into
different aspects. For example, he was the man he was judged. He was military leader, and he was
deposits were the messengers. So they're divided. And they said, Well, obviously these things and he
that he was a military leader, a judge, and so forth. These things are not meant to be any
teachings, divine teachings, while those things that are mentioned your brother are meant to be
divine. First, what are there things
		
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			about it, nothing related to relate to walk and reflect what they did here. And this is not uncommon
for them
		
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			was recorded. Mm. And
		
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			one of the one of the members of the medical school?
		
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			Well, he's one of the people who talks about this idea. He's the he's the one that they always
brought in immigrants.
		
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			As I mentioned before, about the new claim, when they refer to him probably didn't read what he
wrote. It just taking from, from other books, the copy meant one thing, whether you're applying it
to a different way. The corruption is the one who divided
		
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			the person's life and said that he did some things as a man, he does something with drugs and so
forth. And they were saying that talking, he did these things at that time, and they are not meant
to be part of the Sharia. Where he was saying is that if if someone is in a similar situation, as a
judge or ruler, so forth, he has to act in the same way. But someone himself is not free to do those
things. Unless he has the permission of the mirror. That's what the problem is, is that these
actions, you do not do it just on your own. And if for example, killing someone could murder or
killing someone who has committed
		
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			and it's not a few figures, but it is up to the man or the hack him to say that this person has to
be killed and killed. But if someone is hack him, then he has to follow with a bonus incentive
dividend. That is worth.
		
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			Like I said, Danny, the twisted completely what the what he did, to try to say that all of these
affairs, they have no guidance for us. We're not
		
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			whether conclusion about actually the seminal differences in them whether we're talking about his
actions, or we're talking about his statements. In fact, all of the sudden that is a form of the
source of lower part of the city, where even birth action candidates who are not
		
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			necessarily supposed to follow their mentors Good luck. And even those actions.
		
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			They are at ease as soon as a proof for them that they are mobile for permissible actions and so
therefore, they're all supportive of the city
		
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			to move on to too soon.
		
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			As I said, the notes are not ordered in the way that they think they should be. Now, when I think
about
		
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			if we move on to, to a certain
		
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			one, one of the major arguments that they're making is this we need to make it's behind us.
		
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			Well, this idea was first presented by Mohammed FM in his,
		
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			in his book,
		
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			the reconstruction of religious thoughts in Islam,
		
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			or
		
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			something like that dude, and could have been
		
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			also in the first edition of a magazine called the Muslim mosque.
		
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			And it was four articles one by
		
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			the mafia, one by Mahmoud Abbas,
		
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			one by Mr. Kemal, what are the one by several, all of them saying the same thing that we have to
make if he had no future?
		
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			karate has to be
		
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			returned, if you assume it's a city, where he makes the same argument that we have to make he had in
the future. But as soon
		
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			as those of you who took a wonderful class should know,
		
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			the sets of five or maximum, and you can still use and should be abundant. But the question is, the
question to them is, what do they mean by making each?
		
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			What do you mean by three? When you say you want to make it's
		
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			not one of them? Not one of them discuss what it means to make a sentence.
		
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			And you read for example, husband, Travis, both pamphlets, and either actually shorter, smaller
		
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			features actually that you need, not once,
		
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			not once does he define what does he mean? Or what does it What does it involve making to deal
		
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			with some of them out discuss the system
		
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			or some of the critics dissolve in any movement they discussed and he worked as a means to make it
stand.
		
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			Well basically means one of three things
		
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			to make each channel sort of different might mean to introduce some miracle.
		
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			Some new principles that are new legal, Maxim's that did not exist before.
		
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			And you could pull that external sources that someone comes up with five and now that no one else
ever had before.
		
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			Where are these these writers and you're worth about less than a moment for them to say, they said
that until now, they have never seen any of these people present any new files, any new maximum?
		
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			Oh, by the way, and he just says, as a footnote,
		
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			I'm used to writing
		
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			lots of footnotes.
		
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			And
		
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			where do they
		
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			actually come from?
		
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			It is an important point, because we're always talking about making standards and changing and
quiet. And you should realize where these guys come from.
		
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			And any sort of triple supposed to have some evidence for whatever it is for us is either from the
Quran or from the editors policy in Salem, or from the Arabic language or from irrefutable laws.
What they mean by repeatable logic, basically, are those things which are clear to everyone. For
example, if two people make he had on the same question, and he had to make an opposite, one of them
must be wrong.
		
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			And if someone talking about for example,
		
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			someone says his words if the other one since I'm one of them must be wrong, and he This is the kind
of code built on irrefutable, irrefutable logic. So they're going to come up with these neilpryde
which admittedly have not, they have to derive from the Quran or some not for Arabic language,
anything not even not just come up from your own any thinking with some new.
		
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			Secondly, what they might mean by that is that we do not make a prediction.
		
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			And if we only accept someone's argument that he has some food,
		
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			well, we talked about in the class, and it was so clean and jerk but there will never actually
suddenly
		
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			if you study the history of girls who definitely never
		
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			there was nothing.
		
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			There's nothing wrong with with this. This is what they mean by she had nothing.
		
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			No other scholars would agree with him that there's no completely helpful for people according to
the evidence is determined by the third possible meaning and this is definitely the meaning that the
use of Okada, we had in the in that article that he wrote in most Muslim and more often.
		
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			That is to expand the use and the meanings of some of the products
		
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			and to discuss in more detail their means.
		
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			And the first example that you
		
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			have Danny what what what are the some of the ways that we should change
		
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			Give a new meaning to
		
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			either expand or reduce the use.
		
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			The first example that he gave was what sooner is part of the Sharia and Watson is important.
		
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			That was the first example, where examples are similar to that, and you should ask yourself, what
does he mean by that? Why did he do that?
		
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			If you read the books, and also, they're saying one of two things, either all of the sudden as part
of the shittier, or all of a sudden accept very little funding.
		
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			So he's saying now that we should rethink the meaning of the spider, and how it is to be applied
economy, one thing, that's what is part of the what part of the summit is considered Sharia must be
reduced.
		
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			And because you haven't already at the maximum, so, if you think we have to rethink the meaning of
what he was saying, actually, that what is part of the shooting that must be reduced, was probably
in his lecture,
		
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			but he wants to he thinks that he
		
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			should be based on to a maximum of two principles.
		
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			And he says this
		
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			is
		
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			the basis for is definitely said they should be based on two fronts.
		
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			One is
		
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			the tub, and masala masala.
		
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			These are the two principles that he said.
		
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			And he said the only with these two, we will have an ozone wide enough for the tip of general life
in Islam. And this will lead to metallic.
		
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			And it is to
		
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			know if you studied
		
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			any First of all, these are kind of exceptional, bright principles, then you refer to these when
you're up top and finding the answer anywhere else.
		
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			I mean, this is
		
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			not actually basic for us. And so this is what needed
		
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			to be based on these two. Now the question is why do you think that earlier for ponder earlier to
mean to not
		
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			emphasize these two principles? And the way that happened with Robbie? So they should be
interesting? And why is it that they are so minor in all the books, some books, don't even discuss
these two,
		
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			don't even accept these two, even the first principle that
		
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			the basic ruling concerning something is about his permission, even if it's not something agreed
upon. And in many brothers say it is if it's something you read, it is not something beautiful.
		
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			So the reason they don't stretch these two principles, is because as I said before, and in the
importance of the provider, the maximum possible sort of quantum karasuma and Arabic language and
review of religion and workplace, there's different give these two principles. And isn't it more
important to fronto Bell learn to go to signal and that if Allah subhanaw taala, and the politician
said anything, and you have no right to say anything was a full on is revealed in their language,
and yet he has to follow the principles of the Arabic language and so forth. And all of these
clauses will discuss they are given emphasis in the forum, so not much more than these tuples that
		
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			he says, Danny,
		
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			to bring them up.
		
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			And for it to be a real tough, local to our life today, it should be based on this.
		
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			This is the closest thing that I can say to him to being
		
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			whenever asked aspects of it, he had no sort of depth
		
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			is that everyone should be free to make it to
		
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			interview them. Anyone was free to make it.
		
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			It wasn't till an amateur band came along. And says that in order to make it to the edge, you should
have some knowledge. And these are some of the things that you choose.
		
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			And have been through others claiming that in the early years now. And if people gave freely on the
basis of the writing of their opinions of
		
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			what you studied the
		
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			life of the Sahaba
		
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			and it is before the most careful and making sure they didn't say anything unless it was based on
some songs.
		
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			And if you say something to speak without and this is something that they wanted to do.
		
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			The first time he first said what sky would give me shade, and what the Earth would give me home if
I should speak about the Quran without him.
		
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			Or another narration of I should speak about what I put into my opinion
		
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			with the Sahaba if someone came to them for footwork, and usually they were trying to tell them to
go for someone else.
		
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			Remember, of course the famous story of a nomadic and someone asked him I don't know how many
questions into almost all of them. He said I don't know. His reply hasn't Robin
		
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			Who cares if you know and I just made
		
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			the claim and he got the membership, he was the first one, to lay down limits as to who can make it
to the head or not. This is claiming actually that the set of rules people more him that is free for
anyone to make. Well, this goes completely against
		
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			the history of of those early generations. Well, they said earlier,
		
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			and they are one of their arguments all sorts to distinguish between the tip, the tip of the bar and
the Sharia of Allah.
		
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			This is one of their
		
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			one of the arguments. In fact, we have, some of them wrote articles with executives, and in the city
of Allah
		
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			was with many of their arguments.
		
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			And as with many of their arguments, there is some truth to what they're saying. But unfortunately,
usually they apply, or what they mean by something wrong.
		
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			And everyone knows that there's a difference between what a spotter made, and what isn't the
		
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			difference between an image Everyone knows that, but how have you applied it
		
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			a duality.
		
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			And who lived early in the century in Egypt, he stated that a monkey can change a ruler,
		
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			what they can change to help him even if that ruling is the text of the blonde. And
		
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			because of the change in certain
		
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			places the lack of money in the supply of the Mexican goods that he was exchanged, then also the
hopper may change the ruling matrix. I think this is the maximum
		
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			maximum, but we have to realize what is the meaning of that maximum. And what I mean by that. And
rulings are
		
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			those that come directly from the text of the Quran.
		
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			And things that are based on those directly from the text. And those that come from its Jihad which
are not directly from the text, but are based simply on muscles are the muscles are the central
point.
		
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			Now obviously this second category
		
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			and the The second category of both both categories see the multiple How are the benefits of the
people.
		
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			But with respect to the second category, and you
		
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			must have a specific demo. And this might change over time, that rolling may actually lead to some
harm or agree with me this second category may be changed.
		
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			But as for the first category, and even the source from the promotion, and rolling is based directly
on the source of the Quran, Sunnah, these in themselves bring about Muslim ha by their nature,
		
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			under any circumstance, except for those few cases of a literal relativist.
		
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			And actually the largest doodle of Dora a part of the city as a part of the suit. So it's not
actually even an exception. So there's no way that anyone can claim the peace laws leads to most of
them, which leads me to the lead added to Muslims, and the Muslims. What the Sharia means by
Muslims, not necessarily what the people like. Messiah is in, for example, things like freedom,
inequality, such and such. But most of the text is the two most the things that preserve the deed,
the religion, and life and outcomes, and familiar relations and
		
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			nuts
		
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			and rope, and it is in the realm of and these are the things that the Sharia brings about under all
		
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			circumstances. Well, all of the text, all of the resources that are on our mercy, will not will not
put up
		
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			with these things and cannot be changed under any
		
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			circumstance. the only the only the only things that can be changed are those it's the head of the
LMR that were based on Mr. Harper, which is an exam where everyone agrees that these things may be
changed.
		
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			But
		
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			any do what some of the modernists for example are doing to be are trying to say is that even those
things which are fixing the problem and found them in the in the source of the Quran, Sunnah even
these things should be changed in the name of Messiah. Well, this brings me through another one of
their another one of their principles.
		
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			And that is the Messiah is the overriding principle.
		
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			Any the overriding judge depth or depth is much
		
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			wider basis on the arguments of someone who existed at one time.
		
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			His name is
		
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			Rita and Muslim. And he says that mufflers overriding principle and you can go against the null
source in the name of
		
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			well as I mentioned, and their medical treatment methodology
		
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			And it is very common for them to take opinions any which are pseudo, very strange and go against
what
		
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			they said. And he is one of the people who said that muscle heart is the overriding
		
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			theme if you want to read about Muslim Han about the book and how the scholars, and he refuted him,
and it is well known. Well, as I mentioned before, I do have
		
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			his book, and he has the worst decision.
		
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			And
		
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			also, it's not a coincidence with the same colors in his book. I forget the title, but it's about
any those evidences which are
		
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			disputed, disputed among donor, in other words, not accepted by all the elements.
		
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			It is no coincidence that he is the one who brought on top of your data out of the holes of the dark
and printed as part of this book.
		
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			Well, this is Danny, again, part of his message with me, he gives us he gives us an idea of value
equality, that things are respected scholars actually share with respect and so on and so forth. Why
no, we have to be very careful and very much aware of these kind of
		
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			also added some,
		
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			some arguments of their own towards the top people.
		
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			And as opposed to this position that
		
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			takes precedence over Mrs.
		
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			Weather first wrote,
		
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			it's the head of
		
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			what they claim that the third did not follow the muscles.
		
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			Instead, he followed to become popular nowadays in the spirit of the shittier growth of the
		
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			world they prefer that are to actually take two incidents from his life.
		
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			One is
		
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			to not give the cat to
		
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			an English and he knows it's hard to be reconciled.
		
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			And he will not give it or not give the path to this.
		
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			But he's people argue that this was his he had his going against the new sources.
		
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			These people don't exist right now. But there's no better
		
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			way we are known as a kid in Boulder, and you give me your Duquette. And I don't give it to the Mr.
Kane, because there was no mess. Okay, now you're saying that I'm going against your thoughts and
making sure that on the basis of massage, is saying that these people don't exist this time. They
don't exist at this time. Obviously, you don't give them with us, he wasn't going against the
muscles.
		
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			If those people existed, or that time or later time, you could give them a month, okay. Secondly,
they said also that during the time of growth, he did not cut the hands of the people.
		
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			And the people who stole during the time of drought, he did not put their hands because the
situation of Italian they said again that this is the HDR bomber.
		
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			And he's going against the suit.
		
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			And actually your honey this again,
		
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			this argument can be used against them, because in fact, honor
		
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			top was a blind also. Because when the source the Hadith of the Prophet says and then tells us to
leave the other not to plant a dog in case of any doubts.
		
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			And if there's any doubt about the situation, the adoption of
		
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			webinarjam comments commenting on what I
		
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			did, he said the belt and although support scales was much greater than the delta of all of the
examples.
		
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			And these people were forced into doing their thing because of the drought and because of the
situation in
		
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			both of these examples and in the thing that they present as using
		
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			the source and he made it on the basis of multiple arguments against is enough is enough. Secondly,
the second
		
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			proof that they give you proof and besides the book is writing
		
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			is the example of enamel sharpening. That when he moved from Iraq, to Egypt to change many of his
Patel many of his opinion was this sermon diverged from many brothers in the mosque.
		
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			I needed
		
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			one shall be removed from an opportunity to change the power
		
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			to change when you move from one place.
		
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			The question is Was this the case was with
		
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			the certainly the case that he moved from Iraq to Egypt and he changed him and Fidel because of the
New Living circumstances in Egypt.
		
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			When it came to certain details,
		
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			as well, they have to be recorded.
		
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			When, when the majority moved to to Egypt, he wrote a new edition of the Babylon book.
		
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			Well, they have been recorded that he absolutely forbade anyone report from the old.
		
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			And it seems clear to some of the statements, that he changed his patella not because of the
different circumstances, but because he was wrong before and he may switch.
		
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			So it's not a situation as examine business improve this given circumstances are different. Now what
this is not what happened to him with the membership.
		
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			He changes that though, because he found he was wrong
		
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			in his own photo, and plus, by the way, should realize at the same time he rewrote his book, and
		
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			it changed some of it.
		
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			Obviously, when you move from Iraq to if you don't have to change your sort
		
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			of your citizenship nowadays, but that's not the suit.
		
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			And it was because he changes so that some of his conclusions were different.
		
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			So there are arguments against him, I'm sure there was an example, a clear example, that power law
		
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			allows for change, because it's time in place, and it is not acceptable.
		
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			Well, finally, they tried to present a new claim, as per the supporting evidence that this was also
a mental claims idea that the muscle has overriding. And even if its muscles from the front, we
should we can override those muscles in the name of Muslim?
		
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			Well, as I mentioned before, if you read all over the world, on this issue, not just a few days, you
will see the changes that are changing your patella because of change of time and place, it makes it
very clear that there's two types of roles.
		
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			One of those things that cannot be changed. And the other thing that can be changed, was just like
all the other models
		
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			and basically directly Omicron sooner, they cannot change? Well, I think we, as I said, I have 25 of
their arguments, I discussed maybe about six of them or so. But I think because of the time possibly
is already bad.
		
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			Time to stop them open the floor for discussion.
		
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			We can all go home right now.
		
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			The brother mentioned that.
		
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			Concerning
		
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			the condition first you must be consistent with the Spirit of God must be consistent with open human
experience, that these are acceptable conditions. And we should understand them in the light of what
humans
		
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			are looking at. This is clear
		
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			makhan rejects almost all heading for the prophets
		
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			based on these two principles, but in fact not. And he is someone who was perhaps the person who
rejected more
		
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			than any other of the Iranian level.
		
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			Almost over Eddie,
		
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			what's up? Secondly, my point was that the conditions of the of the magazine are much stronger and
consistent, logically acceptable than more than this.
		
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			And when you say the spirit of the Quran, as I mentioned them, how do you think said that if it
contradicts the Quran, that the spirit of the Quran because what is the Screaming Frog? There's no
such thing as as good as even this term, we don't feel the poverty if you don't hear this other
thing, it is something that has no meaning to it. It's been like pointed out the mahadevi thing.
		
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			They said that if it contradicts the Koran
		
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			in any way, and there's no way to reconcile the two, then that Edison's rejected is one of the
principles. Also with respect to data, the second condition must be consistent without going in
human experience. As a third, again, we have to be careful on this point, because what do you mean
by open unless all the human experience that is a public health insurance daily that you may
experience something and it actually goes against what the Parana what the head is and what the head
we can put on third, because when you experience something you're not experiencing with the full
knowledge of everything that's going on. You think you know what's actually happened while in fact
		
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			you may not know.
		
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			And with respect to personal edits that you mentioned, this is something
		
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			about upgrading to
		
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			the heavens and earth on a buffalo and so forth. And it isn't something well known among the
scholars.
		
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			This is a fabricated heading because they applied the principles. And yeah, my point is that these
know these principles, much better than not linear movement and all those other people today who are
criticizing How do they know these principles and apply them much stricter than what the people
today are talking about that the people today are choosing particular ideas that they don't like and
rejecting them, and saying that these are principles, while the storages of headaches were much more
objective, and apply these principles to our heads? And if the need met those principles, etc. And
if they did not meet those principles, they rejected it and they categorize
		
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			what is the degree of of weakness of particular enemy, with respect to somebody seems to go against
the plan.
		
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			And if if you study with that about those headaches, you'll see that in fact, there is no
contradiction between the parameters. And it's very easy to reconcile the two ideas.
		
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			ever worked the book refuting the martyr Villa and now a lot, many are bringing the same arguments.
		
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			And he actually refused many of these arguments that we're hearing against today. Well, if we take
this view of heavy handed, and somehow we don't understand it completely, and we're not willing to
study it,
		
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			to see how it's consistent with the fraud, are we automatically rejected? What if we applied that
principle to the fraud, much of the fraud would be rejected, because the face value much of the
fraud contradicts other parts of the film. That's
		
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			another book that we looked at which
		
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			he also wrote a similar,
		
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			similar book, and we have to look at things in greater detail, not just look at it, and say, Oh,
this,
		
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			this editor, there is great in so many ways. The Quran says in so many ways, there must be
inconsistent, therefore reject, and also the purpose about different days in different ways that the
Earth was created. And if we do not think any more deeply will not be able to understand.
		
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			Anyhow, back to two statements are consistent, whether Mr. Hyde uses that term, and the other man
who wrote the commentaries on it, these are the people who studied the edits in detail, and found in
fact, the ideas which are accepted as authentic by the volume of edits in the group agreed upon by
their own amount, there are in fact, not inconsistent with the quantity.
		
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			The question is, and hasn't read the statement about whether everyone should be free to make it sad
that he perhaps mean by that, that everyone should be free to give his opinion as a type of Shut up.
And we will respect and look into opinions over. This could be a possible explanation for what he
said. And he said, that the one who was scripted it was in a machete by saying that you have to have
specific knowledge. So I'm sure there was talking about he had he wasn't talking about this giving
right in a matter of short answer he was talking about he had, has an attribute related to him and
said that he was the first to put restriction on it seems clear to me that he was talking about he
		
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			had, as we noticed, and not just the fact that you might throw too many people in there.
		
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			And if you left out that part about the membership fee, then we could say, this is what it says
included, the part about the membership, the membership, was talking about very specific type of
HTML.
		
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			The question is whether there should be an organized group of scholars who are given the
responsibility making if she hadn't be happy today, and the questions come up to them.
		
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			First of all, with respect to the first aim, and you may manage to have requirements, both today and
every generation, to whenever generation, you're going to come across things, which may not
necessarily be a clerk in the pharmacy. So therefore, we need scholars to discuss those things in
the light of the promise and to make their decision concerning those matters. And it's not necessary
to have a specific body of scholars that we that are organized, but if that will, that will help if
the government can arrange that the
		
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			body of scholars that will give the tower and any makes it easy for them to discuss among themselves
and to go through the references and so forth. This is something that there's no question that
that's good. That would be helpful at the same time with the body of scholars Mecca sutra.
		
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			without missing any we could look together and say we're the
		
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			center, propeller Council.
		
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			And it verifies Well, it's not it's not legit
		
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			on other people to follow them, as well as they have some reason to think that they're wrong. But
		
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			they can see where the state accepts their first one the pledges as well. Then if you remember that
they didn't have to be.
		
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			The person has the the quote from husband probably about as soon as
		
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			he, the questioner says, I said that makes people need to see what that quote was, and is the only
thing
		
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			I can get out of it. And it's clear to me is that it makes people doubt,
		
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			saying there's lots of eskoleth and contradictions and ideas. And the only way to solve them is by
the principle of
		
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			aggregation. And aggregation can only be proven by determining history what the thing is logical
contradiction between heydays. And actually, we have no way of resolving them because of
		
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			this principle, we remember when which one took place historically. Secondly, he said, because of
all the changes in time and place and new events, it's very difficult to apply this in cinema today.
		
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			Thirdly, he said, anything that similar contains certain laws to be followed by all and what the
province is intended as a human what you did with the rule after the his age, well, we have to
determine which of these we want we should accept? And
		
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			finally he said that, and it will scholars have to distinguish between what is strong and what is
weak headed. And if these are some of the same arguments that even the most critical cleaner use to
try to make people go to the cinema. And it to say that it's very difficult to play the scene. And
now you're saying, We're implying that well, if it's very difficult to apply to something now, Allah
subhana wa, tada, what the board has to vote and assume that, in fact, it's very difficult to apply.
So perhaps what we consider the center all of those things isn't really what we're supposed to what
we're supposed to follow. And you just kind of argument yet, it's clear what I'm making clear to me,
		
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			what is the
		
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			agenda?
		
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			what they said is that
		
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			they did not, they never presented any way of judging you. So if I tell you that we should have set
them at ease and rejects them at ease, but we're not accepting the way of everything, which is what
both of them said.
		
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			And then all of a sudden, I reject some headings, and oh, and I accept some headings without ever
saying these are the conditions or this is the methodology to apply.
		
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			What can you conclude about my methodology?
		
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			Either I don't have the methodology, or I don't want to give it to you.
		
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			Okay, please, adequate, it means
		
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			judging,
		
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			clearly on an apple.
		
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			Okay, the overriding principle, because he said himself that Apple judges know, he said himself.
		
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			So his overriding principle is that he's often what is his outcome? This is what he likes and what
		
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			he should he should point he points out his logical premises, that's his minutes. Otherwise, words,
if you just want to tell you based on
		
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			what the job is,
		
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			and, you know,
		
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			based on his based on his actions,
		
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			for example, what he said about what he said about music when the guy came into his office,
		
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			I see nothing wrong and what's wrong, what's wrong with it?
		
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			That's what his that was his argument, that musical talent that
		
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			he actually wrote.
		
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			Sometimes, if you said yourself that if this actually happened,
		
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			you're
		
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			basically
		
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			different from the reasons that I said they seem to, I said, they seem to reject the headings they
don't like. And except the headings are like,
		
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			that's what I say. You
		
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			know, they might, they might like it based on logical reasons.
		
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			Now, but what I'm saying is that is not the man heads. That is not a way of fighting especially for
people presented as
		
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			Christian the Christian feminism has other movements that are more dangerous, has been
		
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			and I do not emphasize this in First of all, this was the theory
		
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			and the second part of this
		
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			I tried to show the influence that this movement has in the United States in particular.
		
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			And they are, in fact very strong in the United States, they're very strong in other parts of the
Muslim world, but in particular, in the United States, and we have to be aware of this movement. And
as far the movements and more than happy and blessed Oh, by the way, I'm very familiar with these
		
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			are the moments that you say are more dangerous to them, I'm more than happy to, if you give me any
moments, you give me references, if I don't have them, more than happy to discuss any limits.
		
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			So this is just, you know, when you give a talk, you have to talk about something. So when someone
speaks, you could ask him, why did you speak about this wedding to speak about this, this, and you
have to talk about something? Well, I chose this because I think they are dangerous, especially in
this country.
		
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			picking on people that basically
		
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			some of them, okay about that point about that point, wait for the seventh lecture.
		
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			And then you can present
		
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			that
		
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			you may have, like,
		
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			okay, and actually you can
		
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			do something about it,
		
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			you can have a chocolate, but there's always the look that you have to give them, especially
		
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			where
		
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			unique and
		
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			different
		
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			in that we see what problems we have to make ourselves or others
		
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			are basically.
		
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			And nobody talks about
		
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			driving people into basically the herd of sheep, okay.
		
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			Any further complete response to that, and those that are muted for the seventh lecture.
		
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			And if there are any, these people are clear about what they believe in,
		
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			why I'm discussing any words they are writing and stuff, and what they are saying and
		
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			what they are writing themselves and what they're thinking. That's my conclusion, from the many,
what they are actually saying is their beliefs and what should be grounded in Islam. Why this is
much different from going to other people, and saying that I think he acts this way because of this,
and then
		
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			any, that's not my right.
		
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			And it's not in a public lecture.
		
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			Now, if you want
		
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			to talk about something, he should stop at about a different time.
		
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			But the main point, again, if somebody is working for us, right, but
		
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			if I if I feel that this person is more dangerous than I choose
		
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			to talk about,
		
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			when I talk about this, and when I talk about something, I have to present
		
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			evidence, if I do wrong, and that you discuss
		
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			that, that evidence that which I
		
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			trust my life, to talk about, that's very important.
		
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			Ready for number six,
		
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			that somebody is going to tell the dream was brought up. And he knows that they have personally
talked with some of the people I mentioned, who brought this point up in the past.
		
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			And some of the people that I did not talk to personally, I know some shoe foods who spoke to them.
And secondly, I'm not I'm not taking one sentence out of a book. Someone wrote many books, and then
I'm taking one sentence out of one of the books he wrote, but I'm taking people who have this
general trend, if I wanted to, I could just give lectures, all of these lectures about German
people. And we could have 10 of those lectures about each one of them. I think these are general
trends that they're having, and shall I'm doing my best not to take them
		
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			out of out of context. Thirdly, as I insisted with brother of mine last time, I'm not trying to
judge their intention, as I said about the tequila, it seems from the writing that many of them had
a very good intention to defend Islam. But at the same time, they in fact, were not following the
great Islam and their teachings were not the right so the same thing about these people, man, I love
to give them enough where it's not anything personal. But when it comes to its them, we have to not
look at people as
		
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			As personal Well, he did this for me or he did that. But even if he did a lot, any of you doing also
a lot of harm, he has to consider the fact that he's doing harm and must
		
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			not just be quiet about that. Well, finally, I expect to check tomorrow inshallah for the for the
trip.
		
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			So it's going to be backplane first class
		
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			brothers coming, which has just been seconded that
		
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			we're known for, for what he did, in fact, he you can call him an extremist. And therefore, to put
Zimbabwe and others in the same category, or in the same lecture in public and so forth,
		
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			isn't fair to them?
		
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			And if that that might be true, we needed similar ways, of course, a much more extreme than others.
But the question is, what what was the main ideas what was the way of thinking that led Sarah
MacLeod to his conclusion, some of the same ideas and way of thinking that design is presenting
tomorrow is presented?
		
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			Again, the point is, is the Manhattan sometimes the one that is less obvious, is much more dangerous
than the one who was most of us. That did not mention, for example, about the
		
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			discussion of the Koran, while all of you know and that area of the world, well, as soon as you hear
this, and you reject them,
		
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			but someone Yanni, who is more careful than that, or I mean, look more careful, but doesn't go to
that extreme. But he has some of the same dangerous ideas, he will be more dangerous. So if we don't
even mention him and just talk about some stuff in front
		
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			end, he will be missing an important aspect.
		
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			For sure, and even different looking levels. And I believe I mentioned that in one of the earlier
talks, not all of these people have the same ideas, and some of them are more extreme than others.
But the point is that, what is their way of reasoning, which later on, clearly said, if we have to
judge the Quran, Sunnah and the life of this civilization, and in fact, he said even in the life of
European science, he did it Really? Well, this is the same kind of reasoning that we have to judge
the Quran and Sunnah. By which is actually up in human reasoning. Remember, we did with the Hadith
about the women were the same thing.
		
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			I'm not saying that they're all the same.
		
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			Some of them may call for any which is worth knowing others do not. I haven't called In fact, any of
them. I never said any of those in any lecture.
		
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			This is my
		
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			I have, I have read through the three books, everything right is considered as a pioneer in bringing
the Muslims of India to modern scientific education.
		
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			Right.
		
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			everything right, but he is not across the whole of the Indian subcontinent. He is not at all
respected.
		
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			But he found it he fills himself as, as knowledgeable on Islam. He founded the university, to teach
Muslims and also to teach his new brand of religion.
		
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			And people to this theory are still going to that school. And many of them are coming out with some
of the same strange ideas without much fun begin.
		
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			And perhaps
		
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			it's not, you know, it's not
		
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			worth
		
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			extra considering that it's not the same as it was at Amazon. But if you read some of the papers in
the, in the
		
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			there's a journal in the library here, something comes from Pakistan. If you read closely, those
people who are from another university and what the right you'll see when many of them have this
kind of way of looking at
		
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			to me within the
		
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			next few
		
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			University of
		
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			Maryland.
		
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			Now that I needed the only way that the person can progress and value the setting is novel by
modifying
		
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			the formula
		
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			Before
		
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			becoming educated the Europeans
		
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			prevail and 20 years ago
		
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			was the hotbed for socialism and communism. You will find a lot of people
		
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			talking about the one thing and the history of the collaborative partners that
		
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			work.
		
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			But if you look at what's happening today, the good news is that
		
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			you will find people who are totally different. We reject
		
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			the socialist group is to dominate
		
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			and now
		
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			dominated but they are equal
		
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			the atomic