Jamal Badawi – Muhammad 55 – The Claim To Prophethood 1

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The host of Islam and culture discusses the origins of the Prophet Mohammed's claims and the importance of researching sources. They stress the need for thorough evaluation and provide examples of historical and documentary evidence. The discussion also touches on the confusion surrounding the Prophet's claims and the importance of identifying oneself with their true values. The church's stance on eclectic seizures was centered around the church's own beliefs, and the church's focus on eclectic seizures was centered around the church's own beliefs.

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			alaikum peace beyond you. Welcome to another episode of Islam and focus. I'm your host Mr. Rashid.
Today we have our 55th programming our series, The Mohammed last messenger of Allah. Today we'll be
discussing the topic of the claim of prophethood. I have joining me as usual on the program was my
guest today Dr. Jamal battery of St. Mary's University Assalamu alaikum.
		
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			Before we get into discussion, today's program,
		
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			basically summarize the main points we touched on last week, sure, we continue to discuss the action
of Abuja to the first revelation to the Prophet according to his nation.
		
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			And we also discussed the testimony of her cousin walakum, who was an Arab, an old who became
Christian, and that she told her that what came to the Prophet actually weren't the engine of
revolution, who came to Moses and prophets in the past. And he prophesied that based on his
knowledge, that the prophet will be appalled in performing his mission, and that he would be driven
away from his home.
		
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			And then he said that after the initial period of Revelation, there was a period of secession of
Revelation, it did not come for some time, and then it resumed again, we'll discuss the various
reports about the possible length of that period of secession, and also the wisdom or possible
wisdom behind that.
		
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			We also discussed the possible wisdom as to why the prophet SAW Gabrielle in the first two
encounters rather than simply hearing his voice. And we indicate again, that this will remove any
doubt that what the prophet experience was not really from reveal himself, but rather something that
was despite on set from outside of himself.
		
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			Another issue also that was discussed was the fact that the state of fear experienced by the prophet
when he saw the first revelation seemed to provide a very strong evidence that we never aspired to
be a prophet never even expected to be a prophet or MC would come back very happy and driven and his
hopes became true. And that stands in opposition to the some of the theories advanced by some of
		
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			the prophethood was something that was cooking or zooming in the mind of the Prophet, but doesn't
seem to be the case. And finally, discussed briefly why some of the writers who come from a Judeo
Christian background, for example, now who believes in Revelation given to Moses, Revelation through
Jesus, and other prophets, while accepting that they rejected when it comes to the revelation.
		
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			This is
		
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			unjustified and
		
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			it's something that could possibly be examined
		
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			more carefully.
		
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			Just 10 years from
		
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			now, there is a possibility of examining a religious claim in a rational and objective way. Well, I
must begin first with some reservations by saying that any religious claim is ultimately as some
people would believe in matter of faith, something relating to partly a subjective personal
experience of the individual, or the one who claims or make that claim
		
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			will affect me.
		
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			I'm also aware that what one person or group of persons regard as a religious truth is not always
subject to logical OR rational examination, some cases, at least some of the story.
		
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			I'm also aware that our evaluation of what others claimed to be religious truth is influenced by
what we are saying, claim to be our own religious truth, maybe to illustrate that a Jew, for
example, who accept the religious truth, that this was the greatest of all prophets. And that better
to him, is the ultimate divine revelation may find it difficult to accept another religious truth as
claimed by Christians, pertaining to the
		
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			crucial role played by Jesus in this history of Revelation, Revelation. By the same token, a
Christian for example, who accept as a religious truth to him, the ultimate revelation was in Christ
		
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			was difficult to accept another religious truth claimed by Muslims, that Muhammad was also in this
in just the last messenger of God, who was sent as a condition of the mission of all of the
prophets, including Moses, Jesus, Abraham and all others, and that he received divine revelation
		
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			from God, and that as indicated in the Quran, or the Prophet is going to come after him, which
affect the testimony of history, that new person came after Muhammad peace be upon him with an
influence any worse, anywhere near the influence exerted by such great figures as Muhammad Moses,
Jesus, Abraham, or other great profits in history? Well, having said that much is I must say that in
the case of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. And his claim that the Quran that he received was,
in fact, the revelation outside of himself, that this particular claim, lend itself, I believe, to
what you call rational and objective analysis, it could be examined. In fact, there is plenty of
		
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			material, there's ample information, historical, documentary, and even scientific, which would be
quite helpful in making a critical analysis
		
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			of that particular claim. Just like,
		
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			I think it can be subjected to that examination, and ensuring ultimately that the various theories
that try to inject the genuineness and legitimacy of the Prophet Mohammed and the truth in his claim
that the Quran is divine revelation
		
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			that was founded, and in some cases, even a lot of business theories, to be frank,
		
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			have you perhaps,
		
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			elaborate on and share with us the last point you made the material being available, which may help
answer this particular question? Could I be sure I did them in a question like that perhaps a cross
reference at this point would be very useful.
		
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			Just by way of reminder, a couple of years ago, we have gone through a series of 52 half hour
programs that were
		
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			devoted exclusively to that question, the source of the Quran, how do we know it was divine
revelation, the title was an ultimate American. And while the focus of that series was the forum
itself,
		
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			the discussion we had, at that time, I think it's very much also related to the topic of that series
about the prophethood of Prophet Muhammad, because the most important American make sense
		
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			of this profit, which is an exclusive American to him, is the Quranic prophet had his own medical
book.
		
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			That's the case in the phenomenon.
		
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			in that field, then we can say that the entire series, the Quran, ultimate miracle, in a way could
give a more detailed answers to that question.
		
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			Was Muhammad truly a messenger of God
		
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			received divine revelation?
		
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			So in one sense, the students could be an answer to that question.
		
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			I mean, of course, that this topic was covered before, as you just mentioned, however, in the
context of these, this present series, perhaps a summary may be helpful for you, perhaps,
		
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			to take
		
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			is unfair of occasion, can I ask you to do something
		
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			I might not be able to do for two or three
		
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			minutes because that might be enough to get
		
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			that may be something we might be able to go because I think it's also a cross reference can be
quite helpful also. Well, in any case, I'll try to be as brief as I can be
		
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			as concise as possible. But that series actually began by saying that there are only three possible
sources of the Quran or three explanations of the source of the Quran, when that it was authored,
indeed by prophet
		
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			the Prophet Muhammad learnt the Quran from some other sources, at least in part,
		
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			and just came up with this as a new book.
		
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			The Quran is indeed as claimed a divine revelation from outside of himself, not learning from not
simply entailment or reflections. And then in this series of programs in the past, we have tried to
analyze
		
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			this possibilities on the basis of both internal and external evidence. We began with the interment
evidence that is evidence within the Quran itself. And what the Quran says about itself. We
indicated that the Quran consistently speaks about itself as divine revelation that came from God,
not from God
		
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			or
		
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			just give
		
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			number of verses this we quoted them for that you skip number of verses for those who wish to
research it further in the Quran in chapter 56, verse 18, also in 57 1625 116, verse 4415, verse 26,
verses we need to think and we need to clear statements in the Quran about its origin.
		
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			Secondly, within the Quran also noted that the sign of the Quran seems to indicate that the speaker
is not Muhammad, obviously that God Himself.
		
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			The speaker says, I created the heavens and earth we created the human I sent the messages. In fact,
we found that many verses in the Quran it contains Mohammed's How could he be the author it cannot
		
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			be asked you say or answer. So that shows again, it's not 100 with the speakers in
		
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			the author
		
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			indicated that there are numerous verses in the Quran that very clearly and positively negate any
idea that the Quran came from any human source and that there could be another source but the divine
revelation. Examples of this is chapter seven, verse two or 310, verse 1517, verse eight, and these
are examples of
		
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			firstly indicated the best texts in the Quran, are confirmed as well, by numerous statements made by
Prophet Muhammad, in hobbies, literature, and hobbies, as you know, even though it was the word of
the Prophet was kept separately, the style is different. So in this prophetic setting, again, he
confirmed the same thing mentioned in the Quran. The Quran is divine revelation dictated to him by
the engine of revelation that will and has has nothing to do with the authorship or the content of
the Quran except to see if it's conveyed, exemplified.
		
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			In commenting on this eternal evidences.
		
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			We indicated that after all, Prophet Muhammad was a disclaimer of authorship of the Quran, a
disclaimer of integrated
		
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			relating to the content of the Quran. And since the Quran has been widely accepted
		
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			by even the most ardent enemies of the prophet to be a an unmatched book in terms of beauty, let
alone wisdom of its content. One would have expected that people would jump on any occasion to clean
it for themselves.
		
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			The Prophet is a disclaimer and you seem to prove to us that you're not the author doesn't prove to
ask the author which is the normal type of question that we raise.
		
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			And in the case of the purpose of consistently disclaiming any credit of that great book, which
could have made him also more famous and more accepted, insisting that it is outside of himself that
he has nothing to do with its content. We complete it on the basis of this internal evidence, then,
that the idea
		
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			or solution, or implication, that the Quran was written by Mohammed or author, or that it reflects
his own ideas, is, in fact, his something, maybe not so certain accusation that
		
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			God forbid, was an imposter or one who did not tell the truth and method which is negated on
numerous
		
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			grounds to get this kind of motion. But unfortunately, some
		
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			other motors keep repeating without thinking, yes, that will be the first to pick up on some of
those brands at this particular juncture that is,
		
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			perhaps
		
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			perhaps the most important Future Is Yours, most important? And what
		
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			does that
		
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			mean among his people, as we mentioned in a previous program, as the trustworthy
		
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			and that was the only person who had that particular nickname, so the truth and 100 word like just
one in the minds of many people,
		
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			in any matter whatsoever, whatsoever. And this is a big challenge, because among us, that claim that
		
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			even those who oppose him
		
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			and try to reject the divine source of the revelation,
		
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			their opposition or their accusation was not born. In fact, that's a right we know in this
incidence, you lie to us
		
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			in this or this occasion,
		
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			but rather it was a sort of
		
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			opposition mainly because of the rejection of his message because it differs from that
		
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			I'm different from their particular religious beliefs, but otherwise,
		
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			the most severe enemy of the Prophet could point to any incident where he could say this man had a
bad night in his life.
		
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			In fact, the Quran itself
		
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			with a challenge to the people who made this accusation against him, and they never opposed the
Quran actually, when the Quran mentioned that about them, one version of the Quran is very
interesting. And he says, well look at
		
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			the same level of happiness not know he asked me, whatever the seminar, but we know that they say
that it is a human who's teaching him? Yes, the number two the Quran says is a person who
		
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			is in good Arabic. And the Quran has come into a manifest and clear Arabic, trying to reveal their
true motives for personal profit. It's not because they thought or anything, but one verse in the
Quran says
		
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			that
		
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			that would grieve you are what drives you that accusation. But in fact, they do not deny you. In
other words, those people who oppose you do not engage and their hearts beneath them, they do not
deny you, but those who exceed the limits, professors are the ones who are simply demand or form to
music declarations of Allah.
		
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			This
		
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			by itself, the absolute truthfulness and integrity of the coffee is sufficient to negate any
possibility that the Quran was simply authored by the process. And then he went and did not tell the
truth and claim that it came from divine source or it was revelation dictated by the angels of
revelation for whatever nature for reason.
		
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			Because this would simply be inconsistent with the profile of the Prophet and his absolute
pessimism. Reputation
		
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			accepts a hope or disapproval, accept the human being a person is innocent until proven guilty. But
the opposite
		
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			is abundant evidence of his truthfulness members need to see who is known when he said that this was
a revelation that was dictated to me.
		
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			But even if we were to take the the unfair position whatsoever
		
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			on
		
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			the side of the person is guilty until
		
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			proven innocent, he did not find any possible motive for the prophet to fabricate such a kind of
untruth and say, you know, it's fun to
		
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			elaborate on that and discuss the possible matters of the prophets claims or receiving revelation.
		
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			Okay, assuming even that will disregard that rule that you are innocent until proven guilty.
		
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			Even if we say that
		
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			we do not find any logical reason for even that unfair assumption,
		
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			incorrect one, that the prophets have said the Quran and did not say the truth and claim the answers
for at least for three reasons. The first reason is that the examination of the mouth of the Prophet
before and after coffee to indicate the complete absence of any material and benefits that he
derived or might have derived by claiming to be a prophet and claiming that the Quran came from
divine sources. He chose a self imposed simplicity in his life, he deliberately lived
		
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			practically identify in practical terms with the poor, and needy. He did actually in a poorer state,
after Prophethood than he was before he became a prophet, he suffered more even financially
		
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			sacrificed everything that he owned for the sake of the truth and propagation of the truth.
		
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			And we have given exemptions in that the
		
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			specific examples of migrations where it was so best in months or to
		
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			go by, without penalties met in his house for me for a period of two months, have you slipped on a
piece of canvas and in some cases on a stream net, that left marks on his body, prompting Hamas to
cry when he saw the profit in that dire poverty even though the Muslim prison was in the truth. And
this is very important, because this was not only the time when Muslims were few and have missed the
sources that he continued to live. This very hard life very simple
		
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			Muslim treasure was this big
		
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			I've spent a lot. And I believe this is very important in this day and age, we're
		
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			about the kind of lavish living another expense a signature of some of the preachers and modern day
prophets, who become far more richer and living a much more luxurious life after they claim that
they are preaching for the sake of living.
		
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			Not under people outside of Christianity, but people within
		
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			Christian, Christian today's ism see this question as to whether this modern day prophets and
preachers are indeed preaching for the sake of God or for the sake of money in the pockets of people
from whom they want to set this money. And
		
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			this is one reason, the second reason is that it is totally illogical, for example, to say that the
Prophet did not have any material aspiration, but was looking for power, because what is power,
power goes also with wealth, with all this appearances and
		
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			tracking that goes with it. So you cannot just seek power and look like a very poor simple matter of
identifying with the poor.
		
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			In addition to this, we indicated also the examination of the life of the Prophet, and all authentic
reports about his behavior. And his character showed that he was
		
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			extremely humble. He was not an egotistic person was very, you know, selfless type of person. And
there was no indication at all and was made the choice that he was a person who just tend to satisfy
his ego or claim
		
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			greatness at the expense of other people. There are numerous incidents that indicate this. The third
reason why this isn't a possibility, really, is that in the very beginning of his mission, perfect
Muhammad, Muslims were very few, very weak didn't have much resources, but not at any chance of
success as it appears to anyone.
		
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			In that period of weakness, he was offered everything he was offered
		
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			money, power, leadership, kingship, everything, just in the form for one thing, not to not to give
up his information, but at least to stop speaking negatively about this type of worship and involve
people to the worship
		
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			to God in this offer was made to him. At the Colville we realized
		
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			that the carrot and stick were used at the same time, there was all this generous offer
		
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			in return. And there was also the prospect of persecution that actually would take place,
persecution for him for his fellow danger to his life conspiracy, as we'll see later on to getting
assassinated. So we've had that opportunity, if you are looking for power, or
		
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			reject or boost, whiten the people, I did not come to seek your property, I did not come to seek
power or leadership. I am simply implementing, carrying out the instruction that God has given me.
It is up to you people to accept it or reject it, God's will decide between us once he goes through
a matter of seconds, persecution, if you could have achieved everything he wanted from the very
beginning, without any of those painful sacrifices on his part, or the first of
		
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			the question is when should a person who was not only need to be absolutely truthful?
		
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			And who obviously lived a life that feels to signify that she does not have any financial motive or
any motive for power or ego? Why should we falsify a claim about the source of his teaching and
simply say it's divine source, even though he is
		
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			the author of that revolution?
		
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			attempt to explain the revelation to
		
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			the terms of epilepsy.
		
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			As far as the question of epilepsy element, it was the program in the series, the MediCal program
actually devoted to that. I'm not going to do that.
		
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			But the essence of what we discussed there is that the theory that the revelation came through the
process by way of eclectic seizures, is a very, very unscientific explanation, especially if you
have the additional scientific knowledge that you have today. About epilepsy its causes, symptoms
and what happened to the person during and after epileptic seizures. in that program, we discussed
in detail, the latest information available to us about the various forms of, of epilepsy, the
various symptoms of each type. And we'll compare that with the state of revolution in the property.
		
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			Receiving evolution and we have seen that
		
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			it just an impossibility to match. Yes. We have seen, for example, that there is no other place in
the entire human history that we ever heard of
		
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			epileptic convulsions resulted in a whole group of directly the connection between epilepsy are the
seizures in the book, epileptic seizures, resulting in a holy book that guided and still guide
hundreds of millions of mankind all over the world. I mean, this sounds like very preposterous to
say that it was produced in this conventions, and not only guidance, in terms of this spiritual
element, and now but spiritual, moral, social, political economics and pupils developing
		
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			the suspicions on some aspects of the Quran or the other.
		
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			And as we mentioned before, also
		
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			the psychological spoken.
		
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			The Quran was an attempt of those epileptic seizures, as one must, as you suggest just once. But if
that's the case, if all the content, beauty,
		
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			wisdom in the Quran, and its tremendous impact on mankind, for centuries, we were exempt of
epileptic seizures, that happened to Prophet Muhammad, then the world would be much, much better
having more eclectic people like that.
		
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			Just preposterous. Explain this. And that's why you find that among
		
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			this theory of epilepsy,
		
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			epilepsy, clearly why, who have essentially no experience with what they're saying, basically, if a
person comes consciously and says, This is the revelation, this is how it came to me, it was
dictated by the engine of Revelation, and still insist that this is not true. In fact, this is an
acquisition of religious legislation, or illusion. And, in fact, the real question is, our best
critics, especially those who are believing Christians have blamed us also to dismiss the religious
experience of Jesus, Jesus, Abraham and other prophets and dismissive as religious indoctrination.
They don't do that. Why we would come to the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and the revelation
		
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			of the Quran, only then it becomes a religious illusion, or religious indoctrination. This is a
source of an overall response, but I think there are a number of other reasons that he can catch up
maybe later on a new objective and political reasons he has to show that this theory of illusion is
an illusion in the minds of the spectators but not reality.
		
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