Jamal Badawi – Economic System of Islam 15 – Zakah Distributive Justice

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The speakers discuss the economic system of Islam, including restrictions on information sharing and the use of a middleman. They also touch on the concept of "medicals and their influence on society," as well as the importance of reputation and trust in achieving justice. The speakers emphasize the importance of z saving, a combination of spiritual and political aspects, as a source of income for the state and provides a stable source of income for individuals. They note that while there are differences in taxes, the system is stable and provides a stable source of income for individuals. The speakers also discuss the impact of capital taxes on Islam, citing three reasons: it is imposed on property, it is a modest and reasonable tax, and it is a modest and reasonable tax. The speakers also note that historically speaking, the net worth is higher than income, and historically speaking, the system of care is primarily on property or income.

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			In the Name of God, the beneficence the Merciful, the creator and Sustainer of the universe, Peace,
blessings upon his servant and messenger Muhammad forever. Meet Assalamu alaikum peace be unto you.
Welcome to another episode of Islam and focus. Today we have our 15th program in our series, dealing
with the economic system of Islam. We'll be continuing our discussion of distribution, and looking
at the topic of Zakat and distribution of income. I'm your host Humbert Rashid and I have joining
me, as usual, Dr. Jamal battery of St. Mary's University of the Jamaat Assalamu alaikum.
		
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			I remember if I could get you very quickly to highlight the main points that we touched on last week
in our program. Okay, in the 15th program, we start at first by finishing a few points pertaining to
the previous discussion on interest and interest dealing that has been forbidden by Islam. And we
indicated that the prohibition of interest dealing in Islam does not necessarily mean prohibition of
saving or investment. And we have seen that there are so many islamically acceptable alternatives
for investment in a variety of ways.
		
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			partnership of varieties of form, using your own funds for your own business, buying common stocks
from the market, in permissible areas, of course. And the main point that was clarified is that an
important principle in Islamic law, which is called an on mobile order, that if you're exposed to
profit, you must be exposed to loss if you get smaller profit, you can get larger profit depending
on the actual performance rather than any pre arranged advance percentage. We also touched briefly
on the function of banking system under an Islamic economy and we said that it does not mean that
you have to
		
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			you know, cancel banking as a system at all, but that the functions of banking would be more like
service investment, mutual fund type of thing, but not necessarily exactly the same way that they
are operating today. And finally, there was a brief discussion on the question of consumption loans
and government debt. And when we move into the last or the third aspect of
		
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			the main issues that you are dealing in an economic system, that distribution and we said that, in
the matter of distribution, the basic rule is that
		
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			the government should not interfere in determining prices artificially, that the normal forces of
supply and demand should be led to determine the price unless there is a basic disequilibrium or
exploitation in the market whereby the government may interferes to make sure that the basic needs
of people are met without undue exploitation. And finally, a similar problem also was raised. What
happened if a person monopolize and withhold some of the basic foodstuff which are needed for people
can he be forced to sell and again, he said that
		
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			if an emergency like that arises, he may be forced to sell but not at an arbitrary price rather at a
fair
		
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			and equitable type of price. After all, the prophet has said in one of the selling and my own, that
is the person who deliberately withhold or monopolize This is a cursed person. So the this is part
of both economic as well as moral teaching.
		
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			Now, continuing with our discussion of distribution in Islam, the use of a middleman or a broker in
distribution is this. What is the viewpoint on on the middleman or propers? In Islam? Okay.
		
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			Yeah, interference in principle, there is no difficulty with that. If a person is doing a function
as another person,
		
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			and he's getting some pay for that, there's nothing wrong with it. But there's only one thing that
Islam restricts. And that is people who act as middle persons, for the purpose of exploiting
people's lack of knowledge and information.
		
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			In other words, to put it in economic terms, what Islam insists on in its economic system is the
free flow of information between the buyers and sellers. To give you an example of this, it was
reported in Bukhari, that the Prophet, Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him trying to stop put a stop
to the practice where a producer, for example, producer seller comes or bring his things to sell.
And before he reaches the market, somebody intercept him, and he says to him, alright, why did you
send that to me at this price, and I sell it for you, and then he takes it and sell it at a much
higher price. This was forbidden, because the idea here is that the seller should come first to the
		
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			market, find out whether what is the going rate for his product and then determine how much you want
he wants to set but to exploit this gap of information is restricted. But otherwise, any actor in
any activity by way of
		
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			you know, helping people
		
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			with free flow of information is not restricted in itself, so long as there is a specific service.
Of course, in today's complex economy, you can do away with all metal persons, but you can reduce
the number and again, provide information.
		
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			Now, earlier, you mentioned that Islam, attempts to achieve justice both in terms of distribution of
commodities as well as in distribution of income. Could you perhaps explain for us some of the means
that are employed by Islam to provide for the
		
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			distributive justice that is impressiveness? Okay, what the most important means would be zeca. I
translated more, as you know, institutionalized charity.
		
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			Secondly, there's the voluntary charity.
		
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			Certainly, there's also the possibility of additional taxes beyond the minimum required,
institutionalized charity, it can also be achieved through the law of inheritance. And Islam. These
are basically some of the measures means of achieving some kind of social justice, and more
equitable distribution of income in society. It's not only just distribution of commodities, but
also equitable distribution of income. Maybe we could explore some of these a little bit more
detail. Dealing, first of all, are beginning with some discussion of the cat, could you tell us what
it is and
		
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			perhaps explain the meaning of the terms of God? Okay, on the question of the credit, just like to
make a cross references, because in a previous program, in the series, e are the pillars of Islam,
the seventh program, we dealt with Zakat, even though mainly as one of the basic Pillars of Islam.
So you probably might make some reference to some of the material we discussed there, but perhaps
putting it in a different way or looking from a different angle this time. But basically, to start
with Zakah
		
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			is one of the main pillars, one of the five basic Pillars of Islam, it has been mentioned in the
Quran, in conjunction with prayers, which is the most one of the most important requirements for
Muslims, more than more than one more than 80, I should say, verses in the Quran.
		
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			It has been mentioned in the Quran, with the consequences of those who pays aka being rewarded by
God and those who do not being punished by God, just to get quick reference because this will
discuss them that program just cross reference to the verses, like in 2456, in 224, on in 1934 51,
verses 15 through 19. In all of these, there's a vivid picture, showing how important the zakka as
an institution, in a truly Islamic Society, but from the linguistic point of view, etymologically
speaking, means two things it means purification. And it means also growth.
		
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			It is purification because it purifies oneself from selfishness and miserliness. And in a way, also
This results in blessing. And this blessing, by the way is not only just stretch your blessing or
growth,
		
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			it could be spiritual blessing, but as we will see, it has also economic blessing in the long term,
as it affects the individual and society at large. So I'm trying to emphasize here that aside from
any other aspects of Zakah, or purification,
		
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			it has to be based in the first place on faith in God, the love of God
		
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			The feeling of responsibility as the trustee of God and on earth. And as we discussed in previous
program, that whatever property we have is a trust given to us by God. So, we have to dispense with
it in ways which are pleasing and acceptable to him.
		
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			But, the point also to add here is that Zakah or institutionalized charity is not merely a sort of
religious spiritual preaching, it is partly spiritual, there is no question about that.
		
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			But, but if it is only spiritual, it will be just like any universal motherhood statement, any
religion for that matter or any philosophy would cause people to be charitable, but the kind Islam
is quite unique. It is much more than that, it is a combination of the spiritual and ethical aspect,
as well as the meticulous organization and institutionalization. It has aspects which are social,
		
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			political, and economic.
		
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			Well, but perhaps could you explain for us how in Why is a cactus more comprehensive than other
teachings that about charity, I mean, other than general generalities, urging for choice, yes, it is
quite different. And perhaps one of the good references that I found dealing with this is what I
understand was originally a doctoral dissertation by Dr.
		
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			Shah, Yusuf al qaradawi. And this appeared in a two volume work, which is perhaps one of the most
comprehensive works on Zika. That's quite difficult Zika or understanding of Zika.
		
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			And, in this reference, as in other differences, and Islamic literature dealing with the camp, one
can easily point out to first social aspects of the cat beside the spreadsheet that we have
discussed. In a way the car can be regarded as a sort of social insurance against
		
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			involuntary unemployment, it could be social insurance against inability to work against certain
disasters or unfortunate events that may take place. And this would give a sort of feeling of
brotherhood solidarity within society, which would reduce jealousy, it would reduce class struggle,
as you might hear that term used frequently. It makes members of society feel that they belong,
enriches this feeling of belonging within the members of society so that you don't get too many
people who feel anti society and antisocial and sometimes would be driven even to crime because of
this lack of feeling of belonging.
		
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			In a way also it is both
		
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			social and psychological also, because it trains the individual to have a feeling of social concern,
to stop this apathy that's destroying societies today, as you're aware, it makes the person feel
part of the system. And it's not like other pension systems, for example, because in many of the
pension schemes, it depends on how much you contributed, or whether or not you contributed, in an
Islamic system. Regardless of your contribution,
		
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			big or small, still, you are entitled for this social security aside from any other consideration.
		
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			Secondly, it could also be regarded as a political system, because a care or institutionalized
charity can be regarded as a mechanism which join together the various segments of society and
various groups within the society with the view of serving their mutual interest and their mutual
concern. But perhaps one of the most interesting and important elements of zacher charity
		
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			is even economical.
		
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			First of all, the system of the care in Islam is one of the important means of fighting one of the
greatest enemies of mankind, poverty, which is of course, an international problem faced in the east
and west as you're all aware, but still try to fight poverty without necessarily killing the
individual initiative. It recognizes stem that people can have differences in their capabilities and
their talents and Islam does not insist on
		
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			A profession full equality in a sense that everybody wants to get the same income. But in the
meantime, it tries to work from there to reduce the big gaps between the rich and poor. So it allows
for initiative. But in the meantime, it looks after the needs of those who need also,
		
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			a second economic aspect is that zakka being an annual, regular, determined type of thing provides
for a stable source of income for the state to meet
		
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			certain expenses and need
		
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			a third aspect, which sometimes is not as clear, but it's very important in terms of its economic
implication is that by its very nature, the system of the care, or institutionalized charity in
Islam, forces the individual to invest his money, and discourages herding of money. Why, because
it's imposed every year, no matter how small the percentage may be, if you're not investing that
money, you just keep paying the required charity on it. So you're, you're gonna lose it. So that in
a way provides
		
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			strong inducement for people who have wealth, to use it, not to withhold it from circulation. And as
we have indicated in a previous program, there are many economists who feel that this is very
essential for the health of the economy. Because if people are keeping wealth from us, then of
course, you get depression, and you get lots of economic problems and decline. But when people
invest their money,
		
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			then it provides for jobs for others and general prosperity and the economy. No wonder then we find
many,
		
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			like those who studied the system of the cat in Islam, both Muslims and non Muslims, I've given
already one Muslim scholar who have written extensively on that conclude that
		
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			the system of care in Islam is quite unique. It has never been preceded before, by any law, or even
religious teaching, it's quite quite a comprehensive thing. It's not just a matter of motherhood
statement of being charitable. It's much more than that,
		
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			based on my understanding of the cut in taxes are not the same kind of thing at all. Could you
perhaps just clarify what the main differences between the two are? Well, the reason that sometimes
Zakah is mixed with taxes, is due to the fact that even though there are differences, there are
still some limited points of similarities, I should say, between between Zika and Texas, at least
three? Well, both Zika and Texas are compulsory, those are required. So this is one thing. Secondly,
both also, are to be connected by given authority, the government, let's say,
		
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			thirdly, both Zakah. And taxes are collected by virtue of being a member in society. So it's not
collected because of a certain specific service that you have received, but in general, by being a
member of society and part of a total social solidarity, if you will.
		
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			However, as you indicated, quite rightfully in your question, there are definitely some basic and
fundamental differences
		
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			between second taxes. First of all, as indicated earlier, the very terms occur itself means a
blessing means purification, and should be done and paid by the Muslim, essentially, as a matter of
worship, it's one of those five basic acts of commitment or submission to that.
		
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			And this makes it quite different from taxes. Because if you feel that you're paying your fair
share, and you're doing that out of your obligation towards God, above all, you don't try to find
ways to evade taxes. Most people do try to avoid not even to avoid paying taxes. In fact, we find a
very interesting example that was narrated both in Ahmed and Pavani.
		
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			When some individuals came to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, and he was not aware that they
have gained additional wealth wasn't a little bit, and they said, we've got this additional wealth
and we would like to purify our wealth. So please tell us you know how we have to pay zakat on it.
So people come in voluntarily saying, yes, you're not aware that I got that money, you know, I have
to pay my share of it. Again, why because it's not just something that the state imposes, but they
know that this is worship to God and obedience.
		
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			A second basic difference is that when you talk about taxes,
		
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			You know, from reviewing any budget, it's depending dependent on the government. If they say taxes,
today's 15%, tomorrow, 17, day after tomorrow 15 you know, they determine the amount totally
according to the needs of the country. And sometimes the
		
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			winds of this in effect empower.
		
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			In the case of the can Islam, however, we find that the Quran itself, which is the word of God for
the Muslim,
		
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			may establish the principle of Zakat, the teaching of the Prophet determine a specific percentage of
the care which nobody has the right to change, we're talking about the minimum. So the minimum for
Zika is there's nobody can change that. And it has to be a separate budget also, because the
collection of the care or charity in Islam would have to be directed to certain specified purposes
as the Quran indicate eight particular categories of expenditures, and does not necessarily
automatically go for any other expenditure by by the state. And this is the second, a third
characteristic or difference, of course, is derived from these two differences. And that is the
		
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			system of Zakat in Islam is much more stable, and constant because of this lack of argument as to
what the rate should be, the rate has already been set. So there isn't much dispute or time wasted.
And that particular thing. One should add, however, that an interesting feature of the system of
care in Islam is that it is the money or the property collected from those who are able to the rich,
and going back to the poor. Whereas in the system of taxation, it's usually imposed on everybody, of
course, but a big burden actually fought on the middle class, so called, and even the poor. And
sometimes it is reverse financing, when some of those who are well to do get so many tax concession
		
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			and know how to play the you know, play the game. So in a way, it's almost like in some cases, the
poor financing that if we were to exaggerated a little bit, but in Islam, it's strictly something to
be taken for those who are able to, to help those who are really neat. It's not the reverse.
		
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			Now, in the calculation of as a cat do is done on the basis of capital or on the basis of income,
what we cannot exactly say, for example, that system of care or charity in Islam is exclusively
income tax.
		
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			Because after all, in the system that Islam provides, not every item of your income is subject to
the can, for example, the part of your income, which is used or consumed for basic needs, like food,
clothing, housing, transportation, and so on. That is not subject to soccer, it's if I will call it
non catabolic
		
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			term that has been used recently.
		
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			In a way you can say that the care is primarily
		
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			imposed on your networks.
		
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			But it avoids the faults and difficulties with taxes which are imposed on capital, because of
course, many people say if you impose capital, if you impose taxes on capital, then you are in
effect discouraging people from saving or investing. But this is not the case in Islam for at least
three reasons. One
		
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			is again, Islam is imposed on property which is potentially growing, that's could be subject to
growth and investment.
		
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			To clarify that, for example, there is no record you on the jury, which the woman keeps for her
personal use, for example, because this is not something that gives any additional wealth it just
for her own use knows occur on your professional tools. For whatever profession, plumber, Doctor,
whatever.
		
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			Certainly there is no soccer on your principal residence,
		
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			home
		
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			or your car. Even if you're a mission. You face a car only on articles of trade, you don't pay it on
fixed assets like shelving and other things that you use to
		
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			to do your business. A second reason why it's better than any other tax that's imposed on capital is
that it is very modest and reasonable. We're really talking here about most commonly two and a half
percent
		
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			per year which is I think, quite reasonable. And thirdly, there is a minimum also which is exempt,
usually estimated at about 85 grams of gold
		
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			Are the equivalent of course in money.
		
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			Better, I should add also that there may be also certain types of the car which are subject or are
imposed on income, like income from agriculture or self employment. There are certain specific taxes
on metals are oil, by analogy that comes from the earth.
		
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			So the it's not exclusively really either income or capital type of tax.
		
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			And I'm sure some people who are watching the program, particularly those who listen to the various
budgets and bought them by the provincial federal governments would say, surely, this sounds good.
But there isn't any way that you can
		
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			finance government expenditures in today's economy with simply using a relative's a calf two and one
half percent. How would you respond to the skeptics? Okay. Well, first of all, when you talk about
the tax rates in western economies, for example, it's over 30% and 25%, you're really talking about
income tax, something which is imposed on income. In the case of Islam, it is imposed on networks,
yes. So it might sound small on the surface. But as you know, the net worth is much more than an
income in a given particular years. So like a person might have, for example, five, six,
		
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			high rises that is renting, so you'll really take into account on the net worth, not just on the
income from them.
		
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			So this is one thing to clarify to be much more than it appears to be. Indeed, historically
speaking,
		
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			as has been mentioned, in a previous program, during the reign of American Empire, as is nearly the
end of the first century of hedgerows or migration Zakah from North Africa was collected, and they
were not enough people even to claim it. That's why he instructed his local roller to buy slaves and
set them free, because there was no MIDI. So historically, it was possible. And I am sure today,
even if you take just the Muslim world, if Muslims are true to their face, and everybody's praying
to this two and a half percent on networks, I'm sure that there will be no single person who would
be left hungry, or in need. So if everybody does that, in a sincere and conscious way, it definitely
		
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			should be, should be enough. However, we're not saying that Zakah is the exclusive source of income
for government that are
		
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			amount of money that is collected by way of
		
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			taxes on the produce of the land. Joshua, which is the equivalent of the Muslim phase, a Canon
Muslim pay something equivalent to that to church also on the the overall costs of running the
state, the property, which doesn't have any person to claim or inherit, and and if need be, even it
could be additional taxes beyond Zika.
		
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			Now, a few minutes that we have remaining today's program.
		
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			Is there any basis for making the rate of sick cat flexible? Can it be flexible, more than two and a
half percent? And if so, what is the basis for that? Well, as far as the code itself is, it's a
stable thing. Nobody has the right to change, because that has been given in Revelation. So there is
no room and if you open the door, again, for the care to be flexible, every government can, you
know, explode that and you could get unjust rulers who try to play around with it. So this is a
permanent, which is two and a half percent. And that's very reasonable, and not very excessive. But
in the meantime, we find that Islam has also allowed the state is just ruler, or just government to
		
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			impose additional taxes if there is need for that. And if the amount of Zika is not enough, but you
have first to start from Zika. If it's not enough, then you can move to some other.
		
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			There are a number of evidences that the Quran for example, speaks about both things occur. And it
talks also about being charitable, as we find in verse two. Sorry, in chapter two verse 177.
		
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			Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him as narrated in utter misery. He said it clearly that in your
property, there is a claim beyond the amount of observed care. And this is a very sound type of
tradition, which is very strong.
		
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			And there are also additional things, additional text that seem to indicate that soccer is the bare
minimum, it doesn't mean that you say I paid my tennis percent, there's nothing else. But there must
be some guarantees, there must be a genuine need for additional funds beyond soccer. Secondly, it
should be distributed in terms of burden in an equitable way.
		
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			It should also be spent wisely and it
		
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			has to be done only after the approval and consent of the in a consultative way with the
representatives of the people.
		
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			On our time is gone for today we want to thank you for watching our program and invite you back next
week when we'll continue our series dealing with the economic system of Islam. Thank you for
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