Irshaad Sedick – Ramadan Tafakkur #08 Part 2

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The speakers discuss the challenges of growing up in a gaming culture, including personal privacy, avoiding harms and sadness, and a daily schedule. They emphasize the importance of finding solutions for parents who pray for their child's success and finding a place for them to play, as well as finding creative ways to learn coding and create a place for them to play in growing up. They also suggest promoting mentorship and social activities to improve mental health and wealth.

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			Korea you must add on a beautiful introduction you looked at the verses how Allah Allah reminds us
especially at the beginning of surah tL ambia aquatera Bani NASA saboo own view of lighting What are
you doing? I was listening Are you are you are listening. Okay. Okay. So you want to comment on on
any of that. Before we move on from that insha Allah Bismillah
		
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			it was simply the same, just to just to be sure he Sabu monkey reflecting marjaavaan Yeah, so the
thought that came to mind when I was actually listening to you guys speak to speak about it almost.
		
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			Is that
		
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			you know, the idea that you know, is approaching and it almost reminded me it has this imagery of
you being stationary and something rushing towards you.
		
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			As things are rushing towards you, the natural human instinct is to jump out to the way. You imagine
a car coming. Right? Like about to crash into the natural human instinct, any sane person, save
yourself from will jump out of the way. Yeah. But then the last 100 is now but you know, but the
state of human beings when this thing is actually on to them, is they actually turning away from it,
you know, they turning once we move slightly closer
		
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			to the mic, okay? Because the mic is actually going to be in your face if they do that. So you can
rather just turn Okay, so like, you know,
		
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			the buses coming at you.
		
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			And, or a train, whatever you want to think of it what's coming at you. But you're not not even Are
you not worried? You don't even attempt to getting out. You're not even attempting to get out of the
way. In fact, you so unbothered, you turned away? You don't even you're oblivious to the fact that
it's coming at you for that and what are you doing? Yeah. And then the other thought that came to
mind is the idea of off limits.
		
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			There are few how fleeting they are in a state of heedlessness. What are you doing and they turning
away? So what are the harmful of what the healers have? A they heedless of the defense approaching
them.
		
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			And in addition to
		
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			all that, reckoning, that's, that's that's approaching them. They are unaware of that. But then also
when we think about the, the,
		
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			the opposite of hoffler,
		
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			the opposite of offline liquor.
		
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			And so the person that loves his life in the vicar of Allah subhanaw taala. This never comes to him
suddenly. Yeah.
		
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			This never comes to him, sadly, because that's what he's expecting.
		
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			And if you're always expecting something, how can it spring up upon you? Yeah.
		
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			And it just reminded me of the fact that, you know, that's how we're supposed to live. You know,
sometimes you get heightened moments in your life where, you know, you think to yourself, you know,
I'm going to live every moment as if I'm going to die in the next moment.
		
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			But in other times, it's like, death is like, the furthest thing from my movies is that you know,
Solana, you mentioned that the other night at going on lose a lot. And
		
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			sometimes we don't think about it like that. Also, no, you know, I explained I said, like, imagine
before you used to allow equinor imagine that molecular mode taps you on your shoulder. And then he
says, competition I'm supposed to take you through now. But okay, first finishes, then I'll take you
through your, how will you make Salah now, you know, so having this point, with a perspective that
he brought on this filament, right, and bring into perspective that Wafula is the opposite of the
government. And if you enjoy the good of Allah, then you actually doesn't actually come to you by
surprise me. Right? Then accounts account but don't think about the verse, Allah Subhana his fellow
		
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			man, a su maluka Ruby.
		
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			So Allah subhanaw taala says in the Quran for a man asuma Kilby and when they forget, for a minute,
when they forget my looky loo be that which they were reminded of it. So like when I said it
earlier? Yeah, we all say we're gonna die. We know we're gonna die, we will talk about we're gonna
have to be accountable. We know this, we know that we see that then whatever. Well, I'm an asuma
Guru. And this is the danger and when you forget what we've actually been reminded with, we're ready
for that. Now. Ali, Baba coolessay for the Alamo, Baba coolessay. Allah Subhana Allah says we open
for them the dose of everything, Hakka is fit hobbema Auto, and they become navigating everything in
		
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			you just, it's almost like you've turned away you forgotten, right? And when do you forget
something? You forget something when you don't make it part of your life. You forget something. I
mean, simple example. When you learn something, the best way to remember it is to teach you learn
it, you teach it for example, take a subject you learn a subject you teach the subject you never
forget the subject. But now you learn something and then you know it you just put it in the backseat
somewhere and you forget about it, which means you didn't act on it. So for a man asuma
		
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			coolessay they they all opens now to do so if anything, it's almost like you can have whatever this
dunya now it's not gonna matter. And then had that either fatty hold him out we'll do in this verse,
it really scares me hodeida fairy holding on to until they actually become happy with what they've
been given.
		
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			And then had died if it hold we might have known about it and then Allah subhanaw taala says we see
them suddenly all of a sudden. So like the danger of,
		
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			of, of offline, is that your ending is at statement. Like how you going to leave this world man.
		
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			Allah subhanho wa Taala Grant has to leave this world in a beautiful, I told the we were chatting
earlier I said how you want to eat
		
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			versus and she has a quote for your life,
		
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			with your life, how you want to eat
		
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			But that's how you must be in it
		
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			because if you spend it that way you will end up that way
		
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			because you don't know when it's gonna end out but you know what you have to spend and you spend it
that way you alive you have a breath in your body you spend it in a certain way in your life so
behind Allah Allah Allah take us from this world always with good amin
		
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			I just wanted I think for the newlink for
		
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			my status oh he's doing was was it was not enough stress for me tonight it said
		
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			and then I just also had a thought Another point that you guys were discussing that we might say
welcome to another doctor use of more than a doctor you Sofia Mashallah sharing these gems with us
as well we must get him on one that one yeah, inshallah we are going to When did I say we're going
to do that? Doc I don't know if my language I spoke with you yet. But we will be getting your unfold
speaking about what's the goal now? Olive?
		
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			Sweet Olive sweet Olive now that's Dr. Patel. Oh, is this season Fatah? Do you know? I can tell? You
can tell that.
		
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			I was this
		
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			is it.
		
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			Okay, so anyway, so the other thing I was thinking about you guys were talking about, you know,
having sincerity and stuff like that and in doing things
		
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			you know, trying to couple what you do publicly with what you do.
		
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			You know, in private, and that other song came to me that people seem that there's no way I'm going
to sing it. But I knew it was coming. Let me sing the song that goes
		
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			through nine the Lord, do you have any secrets with Allah?
		
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			I like I said, oh nine dolla. And then binaca and binaca, enter ouabain Allah just, that's just
between you and Allah. I like a sidecar to offer you f perhaps a charity that you've concealed, lai
Lama in the law that none knows of besides Allah. And it reminded me of one of the, you know, the
the grandchildren of Rasulullah sallallahu
		
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			lowen
		
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			where they say he would, when people would come knocking at his door for charity,
		
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			then he would
		
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			give the charity from behind the door.
		
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			So that he gives them something, he doesn't take anything from them. Because, you know, sometimes
when you see the person that you're giving the charity, you will you take something from a little
bit of the dignity you take from them, you know, the fact that they know you know who they are.
		
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			But yeah, you wanted to do so sincerely for the sake of Allah, they didn't want anything out of it,
no worldly thing out of it. And that just reminded me of it. And I think it's quite profound idea
that you must do everything for the sake of Allah. Another thing that came to mind in these verses,
the very next verse, Allah subhanaw taala speaks about, you know, that same idea of those people
that this the reckoning is coming rushing at him. And then
		
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			they, they turn away from it and waspa heedless and it also had his well my team in the Kimura be
moderating in less time Oklahoma, Boone, nobody mind that comes to them from the Lord. Right.
		
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			Except that they listen to that reminder was they actually playing, they're busy playing in other
things. And this idea of
		
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			this idea of plays,
		
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			but it's important, and it's something we must actually discuss. You know, I think it's worth
discussing an account of the fact that, you know, in our time, especially, we have this idea of, of
gaming culture, that speak amongst the youth. You know, maybe people from my generation
		
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			won't have experienced that. Imagine that. I'm in this generation, like, only 30 but me sweat but
you know, from like, you know, from
		
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			Yeah, like from like, militia generation, you guys.
		
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			You won't be able to conceal with the way that you know, our generation duman but this gaming
conscious video thing, some people think they have this idea that, you know, as long as you're not
harming anyone, you can do it if you want to. So, the idea of sitting in your home, playing games
all day.
		
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			It seems like an okay thing. Because it doesn't break the principle of, of gun violence. I'm not
harming anyone. So what I'm doing, you pick up a samurai sword and rant. No, no, no, no, nothing
that perspective. And just the idea that you can get so consumed in these games and your life
becomes purposeless, they may be harms to people might become depressed and account of not having
real relationships in their lives and other things like that. But
		
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			as a Muslim, there's a fundamental problem with admin, that your life is supposed to be about
connectedness and connection with Allah.
		
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			Not about drowning away with drowning out
		
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			Okay, I need to jump in here. I need to jump in. It's the same thing. I wanted to say that I'm not
saying playing games is wrong. Yeah, no, I wouldn't. Further it is, it is not wrong at all to
understand in relation to us, right? If you're gonna sit, if someone's gonna sit and play games all
day, then maybe you need a clap. But for people out of the circles out of touch with being out of
touch with Allah with the signer, I would 100,000 times rather than play games into the other stuff
that they could potentially be doing, you know.
		
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			So, so what is required is understanding that as long as you do,
		
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			okay, as long as you stay away from harm, and you do what is founded upon you, if you use your extra
time to engage in play, and amusement, it's okay. But too much of it is going to be problematic.
That's that's I would say, and then people's gonna ask so what is too much right? And much of it is
when you don't do your your fart and use and you you don't stay away from home. Exactly. No. And
also, yeah, we but when we say don't you do what he was forced upon you and we send this to all the
gamers
		
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			as opposed to games. Now you're not Yeah, when gaming becomes a lifestyle, then shout out to my
Clash of Clans crew.
		
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			But there are elements that can become problematic when because what's found upon you is not only to
make your Salah What about what about you, your sibling, or your mother or the person that lives
with you that needs
		
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			from your time also just because of social interaction?
		
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			What about your body you your own need for you interaction
		
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			that can easily be drowned out and you may you may be thinking that I'm fulfilling you know, all
that is wajib upon me, I make masala abreco for five minutes, and I'm like masala, I, you know, do
other things. But actually, the you have a lot more responsibility outside of it. And I think our
generation have lost this appreciation for the responsibility. Yeah, how many youngsters I think
think to themselves, we can, you know, I, I need to get to a stage where I can, you know, I can
support my parents, oftentimes, it's more likely, you'll be having guys that 35 years old, living
with the mom, even with no idea or no thought of any responsibility, they just, you know, playing
		
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			whatever. So, in this surah actually, Allah mentions on a few occasions, this this route lab.
		
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			And so just brought to mind this idea, you know, back in the day, we could be playing games, even if
you're playing games with Super Mario Brothers. We
		
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			didn't even check something like FIFA or something like that. Yeah, but you either playing with a
computer, right? Where you know, I'm not gonna get any real personal interaction with this thing. As
I can see to my social needs or anything like, Oh, you playing with the person that's actually
sitting next to Cadillacs and dinosaurs? Maybe?
		
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			Just one correction, you couldn't possibly play that long because that adapter will get hot and then
you must stop.
		
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			I'm not talking about that.
		
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			Again, I'm in my 20s I'm just saying, Now I'm gonna pay you 29.
		
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			Now No, oh, yes. That mean? Yeah.
		
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			Most
		
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			reason, first, raise the first.
		
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			So I'm
		
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			saying jack my daddy, actually.
		
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			Can we can we can we say that this like beneficial games and
		
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			VDI level? I do acknowledge that.
		
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			Yeah, like I was gonna, I was gonna listen to you in the new the new beachy in your bubble. Now. Let
me let me let me break
		
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			it. So you're going on this on this particular thing. But I do want to say something, please. Let me
just finish the point. The point I was making was right. When you play when you used to play game,
yes. Right. Even though you're not being a smash call, those aren't too complex. Right? I'm playing
either with a computer while playing with the person that's really an extreme point at which we
switch the game off and talk to each other. Yes. Right. But now,
		
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			because of the whole online gaming community and stuff like that, sometimes people don't see the
need to have circles beyond that. Like if you asked him Who's your friends. Now, this person, this
person, that person that they play online, and because they spend so much time playing online, that
literally becomes the only social circle. So you're a real person with a sexual you are describing
that's a very big imbalance with us. Me. Yeah. So in that type of we knew we knew sitting with an
imbalance like this. That's that's what we call an extreme case. You need to know that's becoming a
cultural gap. Are you serious? Yeah.
		
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			Through Okay, so if that is you that let imbalanced by not bad for the person who's who's circling
men, right? They will inherit them. And and I think I came from that generation we like you were
looking for halau alternatives that are fun, right? And it was important that that scholars
highlighted this feeling that okay, it's okay to play a game of pool it's okay to, you know, because
you become sort of righteous then you start thinking anything that's fun is haram. And that's That's
rubbish man. You know what I mean? No, I can do to one. So. So it's a very important topic, but at
the same time, it's also important for us to explain, you know, the bounds of Yeah, and what levels
		
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			we are actually addressing. Let me come in here from
		
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			just like,
		
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			on the ground reality type of thing, I go to youth, and I, and a lot of them is actually sitting
with this type of thing. I'm not sure Can I just disturb you for the use of his comment? He says,
remember, it was funny. He actually was one of his inspirations who is causing Mashallah
irreversibility eroded treaties and the etiquettes of playing chess discussing how to find a balance
in such activities.
		
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			Interesting, but of course, Dr. Use of you know, that the Shafi mother wouldn't quite like that
book.
		
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			But I think the the guidelines in in this in this in this topic is important, right? So what Melissa
Korea saying is coming from a perspective of reality on the ground right now, I have used that I
that that the camp that's like in a coaching position, or youth Yama do, you know, I'm talking like,
younger kids, like, like 1213 915 16. And like, all of them. So we work like in both of our coaching
processes, you talking about your goals and your schedule and everything. And it's part of the
planning, like one of the kids is like, Okay, I'm going on a summer school, right I want to like get
high grades in school but at the same time on a perfect this gaming, because, you know, I got a job
		
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			opportunity in this thing to play for this indebted or whatever. So he's like, we like trying to
schedule hours in who is playing and getting a few extra hours of practice in in whatever, without
neglecting salah and what even is working on like a daily schedule. And so what we're saying or
Melissa caressing now is that you care more than you can imagine. It's like a it's a massive thing,
man. It's not it's not anymore like to give, what can we do now? Because you know, there's so much
or even the world is on the phones on the screens. Every women are actually part of the lives. So
what I went through today was everything one is Acharya saying, we need to look at what is the
		
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			concept the saying behind that man? And he brought it from the verse we'll be speaking about
remembering Allah. It sounds like I'm like the youngest guy, you know, I don't think he like
imagining it the way I am.
		
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			But when you come and you're the youngest guy, like we just established that.
		
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			Because what I'm talking about is like, these these people that play games in a pool, then is
gamers, then is gaming culture. Yeah. Right. And in this gaming culture,
		
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			or Yeah, that's a big thing. Kasam This is puzzling. That's what
		
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			it is. Don't play. Nevermind, play games. They watch other ladies play games. That's what I'm
talking about. Wow.
		
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			Yeah, so the gaming culture is about, like, for the most part of a person's free time, they busy
playing games into wee hours of the night. With people elsewhere in the world. The life clocks get
shifted, because they play with people at times. They don't sleep normally. That's very easy. Now.
		
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			It's becoming known as you wanted to say something.
		
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			And it's not seen as becoming normal. And it's not seen as something bad. Because the person is not
harming anyone else. But also, this is now past the level of games with Yeah, no, no, no. yesterday.
That's gaming culture. Yeah. And speaking the world so gaming culture is not a one's playing games,
man. No one's strategy. It's, you know, it's what's it's
		
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			just being technical. Look, yeah.
		
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			No, no.
		
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			Let me just start
		
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			by saying
		
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			the first thing is people watching other people play games. It's number one, they like checking
strategies. They're seeing how they do what they did. But the culture around it is like you can you
can tie it into sports. My brother right now, right? If you go from a hospital shout like that, man.
Like you got the talent with.
		
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			My brother right now is, is busy with like a rugby big, big in his life. Right. So what happens is,
there's a culture around it. He's up at a certain time in the morning. He's in bed at certain time
at night, is putting in certain amount of hours into the field and he's watching rugby for a certain
amount of hours. reading about rugby for certain amount of hours. That's the culture around it, man.
Mr. Zakaria saying gaming is that
		
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			whole culture was like, Okay, this time with like, I'm sitting with people. Yeah. young married
couples with a guy's like, Look, yeah, I need to gaming. And she's like blue this brown when I sit
on the screen 12 o'clock the night. He's like, but there's a time a team is busy and she didn't
understand. And so like now we have young couples it's also because and that's why I'm saying it's
more real than we think. So it's not even affecting marriages, young marriages, because he's team
plays a 12 o'clock in the night, and you know, whatever. But I don't bother her she can go
peacefully and then you know what, but it's like, like Melissa said, the whole world now is
		
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			different exes who is making the point that I'm making, right? So the culture of gaming has created
artificial around, I watch other people make coffee.
		
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			You watch people, you know, sit up the studio
		
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			watches people. How did you know? Do you watch what they do?
		
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			Watch people who do whatever weird stuff he does.
		
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			Tell him what his people surf and surf and you watch people surfing, right? One of us do that.
That's part of being into something. You want to learn more about it. The difference is with when it
comes to the gaming culture. It can seem like an alternate reality. Yeah, yeah, I watch people. When
I just want to say that when I started talking about this now, this is not what I was referring to.
Yeah, at all. Yeah.
		
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			We say this. Can we say this? Whether it's gaming, or whether it's surfing, whether it's coffee,
whether it's studio building, when that thing consumed consumes you to the point that you are now
becoming unmindful so and you are now becoming heedless of your role your your diversity of a
Hasselblad Amanda mahalo Kanaka
		
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			did Allah didn't just put you you're just so because Allah wants to do and now you can decide, okay,
look at you. This is what I'm going to allow to consume him. Yeah, you know, I mean, so what what
does it come down to spiritually, anything from that point, anything would essentially become a game
and a playmate. Yeah, we live, spiritually limit spiritually. This is called dunya. Limited,
limited, limited. No, it's more, it's more akin to hafla. Because what it what happens here is and
what happens here is that
		
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			it's definitely hoffler looking at me, let me just add this before you continue that is that this is
what I was saying, from a coaching perspective. These kids come to a teaching session, which is now
how are we going to get your life to that you happier, healthier, more responsible, aligned blah,
blah, blah? And they saying, you know, this is I just this is this is like, they think okay, I need
to gain all the time. I referred my life into it.
		
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			Well loyal of him. I have a guy that young kid, he needed to he was setting like at least eight
hours a day on games playing our job lesson. Yes.
		
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			That's a little little but look, Yeah, I was gonna tell you now, that's after like, a few months in
a process man. And now he's gonna drop down maybe to six but let's hear what he did to still make up
the eight hours because he needs to practice to be able to stay selected for the teams and whatever
was he started getting up at three in the morning to put into practice and then he can do his school
and work from five and then he can get ready but then he's up for failure. So it was working out and
in terms of you know, overall is like get ups I am upside
		
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			down with him. And we were like, but he was in this process man. But well I started much more than
that like all the time they've taken away then he goes to school in his back the minute they come
away to eat dinner all the time. So we have to condition them out of it and literally This is it.
It's like yours a world and how does how does how does my normal world fit into this? I do I go to
school I do I you know everything else when I'm supposed to be an actually for many for many years.
That becomes the preferred world here. And it's like, you know, some people, especially old people
might be thinking what can you imagine? The world is gonna be in a couple of years with ease your
		
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			skin. When these delinquents that's exactly you can
		
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			get I just say something, how he views it now that the word selected by the Quran describes as we go
into the future.
		
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			It describes it more and more accurately. He met me like Katara when in se hai Sabu mon view of
Lattimore. I didn't I asked you what the hoffler feel of it. Marty Dune was the 1400 years ago.
Yeah. Just think about it.
		
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			You chasing? And I mean, Allah uses a boon more or you don't feel half LATTIN. It's like we it's
like a prediction not like it is a testament a prophecy that we are going to become a world of
zombies zombie nation. We will talk about the zombie apocalypse in order that you don't need to wait
for people to rise from the graves. These are really dead people walking around.
		
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			When they spiritually did, but that was already 14 years ago.
		
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			In the form that they knew. Yeah, I mean, yeah. And then you says,
		
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			what is done is done? Yeah. The discipline is dunya is free choice.
		
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			You write down a choice every moment of your life, what are you choosing? Right? So Allah subhanaw
taala describes us ourselves as an Deen as Sakhalin. Why? Because we have the ability to choose,
right? So in other liberty, welcome, Allah, this is the best indeed. So you have the ability to
choose. Now what's happening is the following. And this is why we need to address it is that the
level of free choice is just now almost like it's on steroids. Before if the lock in your room, you
have very little free choice in terms of like, you know, what you can do now you locked up in your
room, the level of free choice is magnified. Computer, the phone
		
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			you know, I think just you know, install speaking about the chemicals from you talking about, you
have to make choices, right? And as part of life, but what I'm talking about is that for the person
that's so interest in his game, then the choice that he's going to be making these, he's not going
to be even thinking okay, I must make a choice about sitting here. Sitting with my family inside and
having a chat. Yeah, he's gonna be each choice that is making is okay. Which choice to make in this
alternate reality?
		
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			To buy the same job, I think, yes. Funny story. My aunt was telling me now not too long ago, about
		
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			two sons when the one son
		
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			the one son, he, the one son, he added, like a PlayStation or something.
		
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			This is very important to say, No, I'm saying this whole discussion.
		
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			This this always getting is very important. I don't think you must get,
		
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			you know, usually stammered, but um,
		
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			so one of the things she was telling me was that
		
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			the one son just like a funny story, the one sign that he had a PlayStation is the eldest son and he
put his, you know, you have your profile on your, on your, on your console. And the ad is bank
details attached to his account. Because, you know, if he logs in, he can buy you stuff when he
needs to, then the younger brother came when they, when the thing console was still logged into his
account.
		
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			And then he lacks been worth of money in the game that happened the other day, yeah, my niece is
here. And she had the iPad that my daughter usually uses. That's a tablet and the iPad. And then she
bought something because my wife's account is attached to it. And we my wife called me and we
quickly to find a way she because she was busy buying children's game. But in addition to this
remote, we just spoke about Nana about the hoffler fee more, I won't be reflected on this on that
pointment these, just imagine this, these the idea that you can get so engrossed into this game that
you will go out and earn money
		
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			and buy food or staff to sustain your character in a game. You're not even gonna taste any of it,
brother, you may be buying food, like food, whatever it is, men on the game that you're playing, but
you don't even get the pleasure of of that in your life. But still, people find it a
		
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			fine prospect to do and it just shows the extent to which like this gaming culture actually becomes
part of people's life and it actually becomes their own. And like I'm saying, I'm talking about
this, and I think I'm really passionate about it, because of the fact that you know, it is
essentially a form of of uselessness. And and again, I must clarify, I'm not against people playing
games. I'm against the game becoming the purpose of your life. Yeah. And you know, it's, it's in
that game. Well, I saw you mentioned something just saying that okay, isn't your screen over makaya
is that they get you see, you're only gonna you're gonna when you get feed, something's getting
		
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			feedmill right. So the thing that was announced completely loses the naps. So the naps get feed in a
game
		
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			in such a way that someone is not accepted in his environment that Oh, he's accepted the he's maybe
everyone's at home telling him how you use as you just said the old day you do nothing to do in the
game they like human respect. He's like he's the main Oh, now he feels maybe Yeah, I feel like I'm
in other people even authority they have you know, they don't get to exercise authority in space.
They get to do that they don't get to show off and get acknowledgement in certain place to get the
acknowledgement the CIO as well as the careers talking about these kids are in the world. What world
are we shaping around in actually doing into that world? What people don't understand math I spoke
		
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			about this internal NaVi Sally citizen was an ascetic man and many of his statements that that are
required. I mean, we don't know the truth simplicity of it, but it's Israeli media we statements
about about you know, how Buddha in Yemen. And the point that he that he often what I noticed is
that Naveen Isa often spoke about Jesus
		
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			rsps we have been in for those of you who perhaps have the non Muslim faith, he often said like
Rukia Be careful of the love of the world man because your heart that was designed by Allah, your
heart is designed to hold love. But what love, love of Allah, and the relationship between your love
of Allah and your love of dunya or materialism is inversely proportionate. So the more you love
dunya the least capacity or heart as to love Allah. And the more dunia fills your heart, the more
your heart will be in a state of disarray. And that's why you will never be folasade like the person
who chases after dunia to satisfy the pleasures. It's like the person who drinks sea water to
		
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			satisfy the thirst, you will never get at it. These days. We call it the hedonic treadmill. You walk
in, you walk in, you walk in, you walk every time you want more, you want more, you want more, and
it will never ever be satisfied. Because it's just not. Yeah, but the moment you drown your heart in
the remembrance of Allah. When the love of Allah, like now in Ramadan, why do we feel the way we do
in Ramadan? Because we stop our nonsense, and you focus more, and you follow your day in your night
to the secret of Allah in your heart, despite the difficulty that that is apparent your hunger, your
thirst you.
		
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			Now,
		
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			what does that saying? This concept, or this concept of gaming, that you guys are describing men
that I kind of was aware of, but didn't know that it's so prevalent? I think this concept is a
typical example of how, you know, a permissible thing can become destructive. You know, because
because of the love of Whitman, the thing itself is fine. It's like with dunya, dunya, and money,
and all of these things, in and of itself is technically okay. But it's the love of those things,
when it becomes a passion when it becomes a obsession. That's when it becomes problematic, because
now you are displacing something. Yeah. And the thing that you're displacing is my iPhoto law is
		
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			your connection to Allah. And that's the danger, the purpose of your life, you're changing things,
another thing that you displacing along with it, or other things that are displacing or things like
responsibility, or things like you know, how Pokemon look, yeah, you, yourself, your family, because
this this youngster that I mentioned, that was in the coaching process, the imbalance was looking
at. He's all the time on the games, right? But yeah, I can't even my mom can't even have a
conversation. Me and my siblings never even like, you know, talk nothing, besides the fact that
wasn't making anything. So now what's happening is, and this is what you were saying, looking at a
		
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			dream, but your objective must be looking at the needs to be that so as he's as we cutting down on
gaming, but at the same time learning to become more effective against to potentially get paid for
it and whatever. Because I mean, people are getting paid to say, Yeah, I can play I can play this.
He really wants this as a job. But I told him, Look, if you want this, right, this is what you want
to be. But who do you want to be in the same time? Do you want to be someone that has this but
there's nobody around no family? It requires tremendous responsibility and maturity. This is a
different perspective.
		
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			On the regime, Robert, Davi FEMA attack Allah, a de la hora use or search via what Allah had given
you, for the year after. All right? So I'm a gamer. Allah gave me and blessed me with strategic mind
quiet thumbs that this is what I'm in. Yeah, I get realisation No, no, hang on, hang on strong.
Yeah, strong cuffs.
		
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			So now, how do I change this into a plasma? I don't want to let go of my gaming. I like the gaming
culture. How well attend Santa ceiba Camila. Tanya, don't forget, we we want to see this kid
specific. What's the ideal goal is that you six hours on, he gets paid for solid so that Luca, you
can go into the life you can spend time with your family, you can you know, it's a possible means of
income, you know,
		
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			but that's six hours of a skill used in a certain way. Because there was that balance across the
board requires massive responsibility and maturity. I think you know, another thing about this,
another aspect to this gaming culture that's worrisome for me is that people, like, you know, people
who should be mentors and sources of guidance, right, like parents and just older people generally.
Yeah, right. They, they sometimes don't see the need to because the child is not doing something
awful minute taking drugs. It's like many other things. They don't understand the depth of it. Of
the issue.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			NFC. Yeah, you're thinking of Mario brother.
		
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			There's PlayStation back in that, in that time, we didn't have this type of problem. At least it
wasn't so big. So you wouldn't understand the extent of the issue, because you can't relate to it.
So you think it's as ominous as it was back in the day. But this is an obsession. And it's like when
we ask when we when we pray, when we make dua, we are taught, don't just ask Allah for risk. ask
Allah for his grandpa Eva, for good risk, good sustenance. Because you don't know if that million
Rand is going to be good for you. You went the million Rand No, but you didn't know if it's going to
be good for you. Usually, now you're going to be if you have it. Why? Because it requires
		
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			responsibility and maturity. So yeah, and but none of this is what I'm saying this is a permissible
thing, but only to a certain extent beyond that. But but this is what I'm trying to say. That's the
same for any culture. I'm telling you, I worked with him, who also lost connection with all of the
family. No, they don't make sure that they spending hours in India, they're not sleeping, they're
busy with this thing. And it's other things like surfing, skateboarding, what even so any culture
that they've been, you know, that they immersing themselves in complete and disappoint.
		
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			I understand that with a gaming culture. There's a lot of other elements that are mentioned earlier,
these things that feed the nav seem like a whole other way, that look here, there's so much homes
attached to it, there's more homes to it than a guy that's going surfing, I understand that there's
a lot of the homes, but what I'm saying is that it's a real voucher on the ground that you can't
exactly take out. And I an ideal, or at least like what we should the conversation we should be
having with our youth is that you get number one, besides the dangers of online and whatever the
labels of anything. The the balance and the imbalance meant looking at this whole thing is becoming
		
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			the only understand what you're saying. But that also disagree. Actually, he was actually I think
that Allah Allah, wow.
		
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			It's grace, everything. It you know why this is unique? It's because number one, this is a complete
world, in and of itself, you know, yes.
		
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			The dangers are moment. And this is what I'm going to tell you the dangerous world drugs is a whole
different world. Yeah, that's
		
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			something else. stuff now. We're talking about in the ambit of the things which are technically
permissible, yes. And becomes a culture was bought to something like that, that obsession is, it's
limited. It's a limited obsession. It's not an entire realm, a virtual realm where you can get
married, and you can build a family, and you can sleep with someone you can, you know, I mean, it's
not that it's different machines. So so that's exactly what virtual reality, the difference with the
gaming culture is that it's a culture. That's, that's growing. Right? More and more people are
taking to it as becoming a large part of the lives. Secondly, it creates an alternative reality,
		
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			right? And when you buy into that alternate type of reality, right, when you when you buy into that
type of reality, then then your purpose essentially becomes the purpose of what the game wants you
to achieve, through when you bind to Greg that through, right through. And so that's why it's not
just the same as any other culture. Yeah. Most other cultures, yes, you can be heavily invested in,
you even invest in yourself in you, um, you know,
		
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			so heavily invested in, I'm so heavily in your,
		
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			like, people are people every different thing. But this is different in that sense. It still keeps
you in reality, because it's a real thing. And also and also, there's a lot of like other needs that
a human being has
		
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			just fulfilled in a virtual reality. So these the question, yeah, as before the question before the
question, first and foremost, Jagmohan again for joining us. And to kindly take note of all the
effort that is going into the studio
		
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			is the costs involved, if you want to be part of this venture and see this type of benefit, reach
other people and you believe that these Nat Academy's doing good work, you can show your support,
inshallah, by donating towards us an hour when I say us, again, is an advocate of me, the platform
not as as individual sitting here, Believe you me when I saw some monies coming through to spend,
like within a couple of hours on this video because I didn't even want to leave it in in the
account. So yeah, that's That was the question that came up was so what's the solution?
		
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			I don't know all solutions. Can I just say why? But 111 solution that I do want to show you
		
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			that I think we need to do a number of things. mentorship needs to become even more prevalent.
		
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			People and I don't just mean mentorship
		
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			From the seniors down, but people, you know, people of the same age colleagues need to realize that
they have responsibilities towards each other.
		
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			And, and mentorship can come in that form.
		
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			And then
		
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			yeah, so so I think we need to promote more actual social activity.
		
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			We need to, you know, try and create avenues of mentorship that are accessible and enjoyable for
people.
		
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			And yeah, those are the first things that come to my mind. You know, the reason the reason i was i
was going so on about the fact that
		
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			there's a whole lot of worlds
		
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			in this world that I and I didn't mention drugs and gambling and whatever from the perspective of
halal and haram simply because
		
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			for some for a lot of our own Muslim youth what's halal and haram isn't the factor
		
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			that's what you know what they again and they go on to based on what they have access to me I'm
talking of someone who's who's at that point of hoffler in a sense that Allah is new in fact in my
life me
		
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			now for him there's all the worlds there's the gaming these the drugs these are the this is the that
right? Which yes, some is possible sounds impossible. Likewise, when you go onto your device,
there's some things that's almost one sometimes it's impossible, right? But now what happens is just
in line in line to the solutions from a solution perspective, is that often when somebody is
		
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			addicted or consumed by something, the starting point is to get grounded in reality meant to invert
reality so what I've found effective with coaching youth right is to not come from the perspective
with everyone else in the lives is coming from what you're doing so much in front of the game you
can't be someone says you know what this game is gonna do Do you know what
		
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			I'm looking at? What do you want to get out of this game? Okay, I want to get paid for example,
okay, what do you need to get paid for? Okay, you wanted to okay, but now Do you understand right
sorry, do you understand that if you continue this route look at what happened to your relationship
with your parents you could look at it now you start to bring to light the reality of things that
are being sacrificed because remember while backs I told you you have to give up to go up right we
one of the coaches were hurting animal activity whatever you have to give up to go up so even in in
the gaming world man, you want to be spending more time that you want to get better like monozukuri
		
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			said your character must go higher your This must improve and you You must invest in your armies and
you must
		
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			attach to the games to be like you playing better you make your games playing in the comment section
let us let us know I can think of at fortnight now the playing fortnight they playing pub g the pool
playing Call of Duty you guys can comment anything else but I think those are the famous ones.
		
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			Glenn's same type of anyway, games are the
		
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			reason why you get into an obsession that is an addiction. Let me let me finish this up. No. Okay.
This is this is part of what you saying its goal. The reason why you get into that in the first
place is because there's something missing through is a lack of something through but I'm saying
from a solutions perspective, when you have a kid like this, you start that starting point is like
acknowledgement man. Look here. This is where you are right? When you bring the reality this I've
seen this work tell him right okay, put down as your 24 hours put down how much of that is spinning
with the game then what else are you busy with now okay school does that the other they don't see
		
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			the relevance to that because they actually see a future for them in the gaming sector not everybody
though. I
		
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			am games now you're looking at getting you know, asking I'm asking how many lights is that play
games see themselves as a game in the future? and asked him how many we want to become besides
gaming besides gaming besides gaming and getting money from actually going high aspiration See what
I mean these 33 year olds in
		
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			touch now we need to
		
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			show what actually to discuss with us but just hear me out. Also these though judgment
		
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			now you starting a YouTube channel everybody's watching you going with the you got pick to play on a
team or not you monetizing in that way as well. So people see a lot of ways to actually earn me. I'm
telling you, they see it as a as a valuable. Okay, so now what I'm saying when we use when you start
to point out to solutions perspective, when you start to point out the reality of things, will you
act Okay, what are you doing? Is this how much time is spinning away? Okay, what else would you like
to achieve? Do you actually want to get married one day? Okay, do you now to have relationships? Do
you have a conversation? So you basically let all the details same? Yeah. And then and then you
		
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			break it down.
		
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			perspective and then start to iron out. Okay, so what is the? What is the what is the the next step
towards all of these other things that you want to achieve? And then, and then you start to see what
		
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			are you saying, I know, nobody's gonna have these conversations with a kid. Yeah, that that's
actually gonna respond to that I'm telling you when they actually realize that, Okay, you know what,
then you bring the relative, okay, so you dope school either way, how your parents take away your
games, because you're not even. This is different ways, man. And again, that's going to be a person
to person basis, because when you're sitting down in
		
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			reality easement, youth don't have the people that are going to do that. That's what that means.
Yes. So that's what I'm saying. What works is sitting down with a youngster and doing this, who
walks up at the table. Oh, sorry. So I'm getting the the mentorship of life coaches reach out to
people who have this type of press. You see, there's a lot of people you see I do it
		
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			must be able to do with your money. Yeah, knowledge of the problem, knowing where to go, I can't see
there's going to be a handful of people that's going to do that, well, I need to get a life coach
with my child, I can I can actually see some, you know, things that I find I found beneficial in my
own life. Can I just finish this without saying finished? So you're saying a lot? Because I'm
passionate about it? Yeah. But
		
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			I also want to, okay, the public, but but my point is that there are people out the US can help.
Right? Absolutely. Number one, but on what what, what I'm saying is, on what scale? Is that going to
be a solution? In Atomy? If If it's not even recognized as a problem, because what Melissa Korea was
saying early on, and it makes a lot of sense, is that people don't see it. babies don't even see it
as an issue because you're not hurting anybody out of danger. You in the house, you've saved
everything you're not I mean, so if you don't even recognize that is a problem. How are you going to
reach out a life coach, the GM and coach will it to you let me know, but that's a different, that's
		
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			a different challenge. The differential is people not realizing it's a problem. I'm saying if you
realize it's a problem, then when a solution is actually being coached through a domain to through
it.
		
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			You understand? And that mentorship can number one come from from a good coach. That mentorship can
come from someone who, you know, as experienced in a certain role. And then beyond that, the
awareness of parents, I think, if they're not the way then we need to raise awareness around it.
Okay. secretaria This is a very good contribution. I was actually thinking the same thing. That
lockdown kind of perpetuated the SR sodic is fusion museums. Yes.
		
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			So yeah, the lockdown really contributed, people were locked up, he knows what could you do? like
nobody can really have a problem with me the whole day? Because what else must you do? Yeah.
		
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			But
		
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			again, to me, the sum out of karate kid that like the you know, I mean, like, wax on wax all day,
but then also paint the, you know, I was at home was my one kid.
		
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			And
		
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			sometimes you also wish there was like, a switch the lesson, okay? Sleep. Yeah, wake up. So
sometimes when you're in people's space all the time, and then it's not so bad for them to, you
know, be able to do something on their own. But, you know, one thing that I think is important in
doubt me growing up.
		
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			And it is not that I was super into gaming and stuff, I was always like a very social person. But I
mean, I know lots of people, my family that, you know, we've been very much into games and stuff
like that. But
		
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			it's having discussions when talking. So like, you know, there's a time in the day when, okay, we
eat together, this Denise will be some form of lads a big problem. Now, families don't communicate,
they don't have family time. It's like everybody eats in front of the TV or in front of the phones.
So this, again, it comes down to the thing when something is lacking, in you're going to find
something, you're going to look for it somewhere. So I'm saying a simple solution to that easily as
as families and I mean,
		
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			you know, people with the beaten siblings, even cousins, whatever, they might just meet each other.
That meeting, you know, when you meet people, you also get releases of hormones, so they can meet
unlike, you know, let's say,
		
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			your life and you also releases hormones that you know, that make you feel nice and all of those
things.
		
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			And you get some of that performance out of that. But through that as well, you interacting with
other people and generally, when it's a family circle, there's going to be people who have greater
maturity than you that can help you and guide you in
		
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			your game even on
		
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			my study of games,
		
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			And when we came Monday with the Sega Game helmet, let's say guy. Yeah, so you guys, maybe it
		
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			was super stoked. And my daddy came home from work and brand new game. And he said, cool. So what is
the fight? I didn't know we're talking everyone go to, like immediately just like just unboxed
		
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			yes that was that the IDS ago? The giveaway the years ago, years ago 50. But I mean
		
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			many a time the kids get to a certain age. And this is just smiled his mommy and daddy need a break.
I want to go sleep. He laid off the budget but this night he is awake already. And he's jacketing me
your telephone complete, which is here, then I can go sleep besides the gaming culture itself. So
what is our contribution to the perpetuation of that gaming culture in the context of our homes? We
can't speak about, you know, what is so much out the and we can't speak for them or the but I mean,
I need a bunch of peace and quiet because I want to sleep for two hours, man, you take the tablet?
Is it speaking is the firewall playing a strategy game? Not quite as long as you connecting yourself
		
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			so
		
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			I'm not gonna lie there were times when I watch the soccer game. Yeah, love Please make this team we
now look at application plans, Mr. sydnor. But okay, don't play the law team on my team knows that.
But sometimes in town, Ghana, you failed the team. Maybe possibly
		
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			possible. But the thing is, like, you know, if you if you if you think you've got a problem, you
probably do, you know, as far as this is concerned. And that's a difficult thing to strike a balance
with because it requires maturity. But I'd like to add a possible solution that I think is somewhat
overlooked in this discussion so far, is that the importance of physical activity men in sports,
kids involved in sports, healthy sports, I'm going to jump in.
		
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			Now you're going jumping?
		
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			jump from one
		
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			is that you say?
		
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			To me out know, you we need to get them involved in sports, because like mine is a curiosity,
communication, social groups, get them speaking that happens when you play team sports. It needs to
be done in a healthy way. And in a way that is structured and you need to obey the laws of Allah Of
course, but I think sports is very good. And I think I'm just gonna
		
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			get the child from the into sports now, almost the, for the first
		
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			time disagree with all of us, right other than Mullah Salim because he's kind of nodding with all of
us.
		
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			But now,
		
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			you don't understand I'm sitting with this with a parent comes and the parent knows, you must
interact, you're saying to him socialization, you are saying they must have social activity. So
those are solutions. But the challenge that's on the ground is I'm sorry, you know, I can't actually
get much out to the seat. That's a whole other problem. Again, this is Lincoln's
		
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			Yeah, look at that's a whole different thing. upskilling yourself as a parent, right? So one
solution number one, upskill yourself as a parent, we facing a different set of challenges in terms
of our youth, we can use the same set of skills in terms of p&l is absolutely true, we have a new
set of challenges in terms of our youth, we can use the same set of exercises meaning
		
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			that
		
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			it's very funny for me because looking at what he's saying, okay, for revision.
		
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			So, so, I mean,
		
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			when you say something, you know, what I was thinking about that? What would you say now about the
beating out?
		
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			of Indianapolis finish? Didn't you finish?
		
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			Let's see. Yeah.
		
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			You should start my speaks But guys,
		
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			that did I think it was coffee. But that Okay, okay.
		
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			So the parents number one can't get the kids out the right. So parents upskill yourselves. Number
two is get external help at easily look for external help.
		
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			Right. And then the youth themselves. It's not about getting into these activities as getting them
to understand the reality of these activities and activities they depriving themselves of, because
when the child itself gets a reality of your, okay, I need fitness eligibility. That's when they
will start. Not in appearance. Tell me to go to gym. Now remember, you did have too much coffee.
Now. Yeah. Look, I'm talking about fitness and all this stuff. And I'm just saying, No. I'm just
saying, Yeah, you need to people need to get taken out of that. That alternate realm. Yeah. People
understand they must leave that around. Yeah, but they're not going to leave. It was the engrossing
		
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			that they need to be now they need to not get taken out of it. I want to just go back to that, that
come it's very important.
		
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			It's very important to the commenters to say
		
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			But we add on the next one. Yeah, the idea of the lockdown, you know, because I see the lockdown.
Okay, attribute it to the the difference in in this situation is as she says that she found it a
good time to be present because she was home she could make comes down to parenting she could be
Yeah. But like I said, That's that mentorship that I'm speaking about. And it's something that is
severely lacking in the world. Yeah. So so the beating thing thing
		
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			in the last 50 years 50 in the last 50 years, how much is the world change on your mobile? Just
		
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			complete financial complete? If I talk to you today about the world 50 years ago, they won't even be
able to exactly without? So five years ago, the youngsters, Elvis is that is that? Is that about
right?
		
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			Because I wasn't the only study was no way to think what is 50 years ago?
		
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			What What is 50 years ago from now?
		
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			50 years 50 years ago? No, no, I want to go 50 years ago, you know why?
		
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			Okay, yeah, please, please go see two years ago, fine. 50 years ago, what the world that you the
world that you know if the two years ago was the world that your parents grew up in, you can't use
the same strategy room 100%, you can't use the same techniques, you can certainly learn from it. And
he certainly values in the way that you can implement. But you also need to step up. Because there
are new challenges which you have to which you have, and all of us are in this together. Like we all
figuring it out. You wake up with these things. And then it just sitting here trying to figure
things out, you know, in a conversation. What's that about? 40 year old 50 year old Mom, dad now
		
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			thinking like, they didn't even get the beginning of this thing. Where does this even come from? I'm
sure these people know if this is increasing? I'm sure these are people thinking like, Can you call
them old people? Or you know, what's that? What's the anti?
		
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			Social? What's the social media? What's the GIS?
		
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			Is it Jesus? Yes and
		
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			no.
		
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			bathroom? Yes, a consoling foot. The parents of 30 years ago, are just as confused about all of
this, of all of the challenges, as we are now of our challenges, narrow teachers and and they will
dealt with it as best as he could. I don't think so. Why not? Do it? What challenges did you have
when you were 1718?
		
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			That's why I say the parents of that time had to govern. And now what what are the challenges? What
are the challenges?
		
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			Now?
		
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			Do my females females do much both females drugs? Yeah. Not gaming. Yeah, that was okay. Those are
the challenges because you're gaming, as we said earlier, was more people interaction minutes to
people next to one another.
		
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			So gaming was you mentioned those issues, right. And those issues were maybe prevalent in society to
a great degree, a lot of promiscuity was very accessible and suffering, right? If I go ask my Dad,
what are the problems in you know, when you were growing up? He's gonna tell me, okay, it's the same
standard
		
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			in addition to apartheid and all of those challenges, from a racism right, that was a big challenge,
but they get down we also assess females. There were drugs. There were things like maybe to a lesser
degree, what I'm saying is now the problems of have a completely different nature. Yeah, absolutely.
You can still picture like these in the 70s clubbing together and going to buy acid at the at the
shop.
		
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			That's the access to *. Yeah, wine or stuff like that. And that's why I was saying earlier
that at that time, as a parent, you have to limit access to certain Can Can I ask a question how
many parents here that's watching now know about things like incognito mode? incognito mode means
nothing to you?
		
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			I would love to know, incognito. That's one thing What else?
		
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			Now, I can tell you this. If your child have a password on the phone, you're in trouble.
		
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			Guaranteed. I agree with you. I put my head on this table. Yeah, the Tommasini.
		
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			If your child ever password in the phone, they shouldn't ever phone, he will tell them a password in
the computer. They shouldn't have a computer color. If you can't access your child device, then your
child is in danger. And he says that, that wasn't me. I didn't present that workshop. I heard about
it. I think it was Mullah Mohammed Khan. I can't recall but it wasn't me. I did I read the book
though. amazing book Meg Meeker on Father's strong duties. Sorry, yeah, read the book if you didn't
if you have a daughter read that book. And I believe there's another one strong mother strong sons.
excellent book.
		
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			And the strong mother will lie. And I'm not the strongest one. But yeah, the two of you strong
mother.
		
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			Strong father, strong mother, my mom, you see the
		
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			you know what that you see now if your child if you can go into your child's phone
		
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			Your child should never phone, my mommy as definitely there wasn't phones, she told us that you can
go to any of your friends, but I must be able to come in. If I can come in with you and I can walk
in and I can be there for about two, I can walk out and I can come in at any time. If you're happy
with me walking in and out of who you are no problem, you can go. But if you tell me I can't come
in, then then you're not allowed to go. Just think about that. Now apply that to phone, you give a
child a phone. And I know a father who did this. He said you can have this phone number as long as
there's not a password on it. Yeah, I know, parents who gave the child the pass a phone and then at
		
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			night, they must end the phone. And so they can use the phone all day. But then at night, at certain
time they give the phone back and that phone can be accessed by the parents, like, you know, like
they can actually check what's on the phone. So the answer to be honest, the overriding answer is
parenting tarbiyah The result is never going to be in your hands. And this is what I tell people all
the time. I have to mention this as a Shamil that I don't think that is the difference. If I can't
afford, even if you could afford at that time, it's a completely different thing. But the point I
was making that was the point was it was a movie, there was a movie Ready Player One is that it's
		
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			about gaming. I don't know.
		
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			I just know that recently, there was a movie about gaming. But it's like we it's it's the the higher
of what we can imagine, we this is going to lead to something about the society.
		
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			Once again, I'm gonna well more or less doing that now I'm going to tell parents, don't we in
society
		
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			no longer exists in the real world. Everything is virtual. So you plug yourself in like the matrix
when you go in and then that's the world you live in. As your reality your dopamine, everything you
get from that. Yeah, and you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you know, the overriding sorry for like
delay derailing this Oh, nine but your iPhone because you see the mentorship element you're talking
about is actually what it's actually that parenting that tarbiyah that, you know, there's a process
that the child has been de railing with, but we spoke about this because the Quran speaks about the
orfila and it speaks about Yella Boone and I spoke about your presence and mindfulness and playing
		
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			Yeah, in the end is doing Yeah, your your your your your reckoning is drawing near
		
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			that other verse that I was looking at in sort of the beginning of sort of Hajj
		
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			you know, like the the very same What did I say I see that in the past the versus will also the but
the meanings were different because of the context. Now we understand what Whom do you have slightly
more already doing? And you know, the hour will come while they are in the heedlessness turning
about? We understand it in a different way now. Yeah, the same thing was sort of Hodge what era NASA
suka era was among the souk era. It will be like the people are drunk. But they're not really drunk.
		
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			And you see No, I just want to put this out demon to parents. Remember no coffee for before shows
anymore? Can Allah I agree? She can have the coffee like before, it's the whole time so hold them.
That's okay. Leave the the coffee topic for another day because that's definitely derailing. Let me
finish this point I'm muting. If anybody thinks that I'm
		
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			not sure. Now we know from Quran, I want to tell parents the following as much as you're going to
do, I'm saying, Look, do your best. The answer is there'll be a nurturing, raising your kids
bringing that awareness to them. If you can't do it yourself, get external help reach out to people.
I'm saying I'm doing it I work with people that also do it the all circles, man. But I do agree the
challenges that this world is already put forward is far ahead of where we even started with the
solutions. But the solutions that have started and the ease help that you can reach out for, but at
the end of the day, always remember this, that the result of what your children is going to turn out
		
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			to be what law he loves him is not in your hands.
		
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			And I must say this because beings lose themselves. And we don't understand that your children. I
know I'm thinking a slightly different thing. But your children is as much of a threat to your Acura
as well.
		
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			People go down such an avenue so overwhelmingly concerned about the kids and the results in this
happening either that they themselves neglect the responsibilities was also behind it. Yeah, look,
you
		
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			can't blame yourself for that you only responsible for the if it's in your control, and they're
		
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			all out. The reason I mentioned before is he did everything he could any sound something like that.
Yeah, I think the reality you know, just in terms of assessment of our reality is that
		
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			that's by and large, not the case. What is the bigger case in our society is not over concern
parenting. The bigger concern is actually absent unity or like absent anything or incompetent
parroting Yeah, yeah, no, I'm definitely those people is just it but and
		
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			As important you must never get caught up about it is always the end of Allah. Yes. That's all. I
want to throw another question to know that he's a master. Just rectify the reason I mentioned that
is when you do something, you know, absent parenting, now you watch this broadcast or this podcast,
you listening to it whatever you realize, okay, I want to do something, you try something, it
doesn't work, you stop you give up. Now because you gave up.
		
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			See the comments which one? That second last one the
		
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			Leukemia man must have been. So
		
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			maybe I'll make sense to the people. The reason I'm bringing it up is because if you take into
perspective, you don't have to stay on.
		
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			Yeah, not welcomed out people. Hey, if
		
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			I knew this, so. So if you take if you take into consideration that the result is in your hands, it
actually motivates those absent parents to keep going, man, because another reality I deal with
these parents who say to me, I try but nothing happens. So you know, it's alarming. The result
wasn't in your head, it's upon you to just keep trying. So the those beings would realize now maybe
Okay, I should stop being anything. Like I said the other day. I'd never seen it on the other show.
But anyway, I was saying that.
		
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			bead, no comment. Yeah, I mean, anyway, being a mother or father is a biological definition.
Parenting is a verb. What do you say that you did say?
		
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			You have to do and whatever little you going to do. The result was never in your admin. Just keep
doing that point. I wanted to say, Oh, no, no, look, we don't give up. Look for our boss. No, no,
no, no, no, no.
		
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			No, no, no, no. Maybe Oh, Salim. Wait, you also not.
		
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			Now see, you're gonna switch your mic if you couldn't even exist.
		
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			People listen to this, they might be used to having listened to this right. All the solutions we
presented were for people to help those youth. But if he's a youngster to me, if there's a youngster
that listen to this podcast, that means he wants something good for himself? And why can we speak
about what solutions are the for the actual person that finds himself in that culture and recognize
it as a problem?
		
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			Let's talk about it another time.
		
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			I'm just saying, we're really talking late. So what I say during a part time Islamic Institute, and
you'll meet up with a different circle of friends. And you'll find out that there's a real world
that exists. That's very practical solution. Yeah.
		
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			They are people, they are people who are just like you who also want solutions. And this is a very
positive place to find it in
		
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			the many, many options available online now, purely to the online problem, you need to get really
good offline.
		
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			physical growth, you know, that's one solution that I can think of.
		
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			Sports. You said, you said, you said, Oh, yes, but you lied.
		
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			I think sports is a very important one. Because you need to get a Can I say, you need to get out of
that. Spaceman. You need you to see the entity in moving, you know, get moving. Oops. And yeah,
that's true that I can think of Yeah, no, that's actually I was gonna go in and actually stems from
thinking about surah calf, that those youth, yeah, they are a problem. And the solution to the trial
in faith was company.
		
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			And so, how does somebody get company, especially in our youth that there haven't been in social
circles? It's like, maybe they're socially awkward. They don't have social skills. How on earth must
I get new company? Like, that's gonna be nice to talk to people like real people. Actually, great.
Yeah. Not say sell into so. So I mean,
		
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			what I would suggest ikey pata Masonic, but that may sound intimidating to some especially to young
Yeah, absolutely. So. So I would say like, you know, especially if you you in a youth bracket,
right? Join some youth activity, like, like one of Muhammad going in there. And I joined something
like mine.
		
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			So that nobody actually when you come in the nobody expects you to make videos within the day expect
you to know anyone. They don't expect you to do anything, actually. Yeah, but I can guarantee you,
you will make my user and youth camp surrogate, isn't it? So? Yeah, you've mostly Yeah, so we're not
the coaching thing. I mean, like actual camps. Yeah. Also.
		
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			He's doing it under us. Oh, I see. Oh, I see what you're saying. So inshallah, if you want to know
about the camps, do you have anything lined up after Ramadan? Yeah, we can set these unacademy camp
also, all the youth is
		
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			interested in Shall we actually have a team of youth, right? That just like is busy leaving the
teens and at the end of the teens actually been trained up to work with other youth with other youth
in programs like this man.
		
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			Last night the leader course good vibes yeah absolutely had fusion nice initiatives machine it
leader and so this fusion is youth and kept these my English youth This is my answer to saying this
helped me go out and his point of getting into one of these organizations is because they have
activities that facilitate the interaction that you intimidated you intimidated by how much you talk
to people if you join one of these youth groups they actually facilitate the discussion while
		
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			somebody is asking me to place the info in the bio please we don't have info we saying like just
type the name of this organization Oh, okay. As it came into the camp my ink Okay, so
		
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			I'm sorry to do this deal but if you can just type the name of the places I'll put the comment up on
the screen inshallah. And then it was Yeah, so this one thing that I think absent from our society
to some degree that I that I think will our society will do very good with family cams. We don't
have that we don't ever do all we like you know pianists do their own thing. You know, there'll be
stuff for the ladies but I'm going to the ladies progress with the mini loan programs for the
couples programs for you know the children like all families in programs happening for the children
teenagers, you know, young professionals all like on one weekend or like you know one long weekend
		
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			or something but family comes we do it that you do you do family at the beginning of this year we
know that the profitsystem predicted all of this
		
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			it's achievement to us it will Outback the dishes will be speaking to each other person will leave
their homes not want to speak to the people at home but to speak to the size
		
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			Rajiv to fit and hasil Odin Odin the Phaeton will be will be presented to people on on little square
mats
		
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			I'm so envious of Amazon's means camp you know I actually spoke to Monique a little about this and I
said well and I'm This is not right. But we must have also that you actually we I discussed the idea
of this this family camps and stuff with Muse and okay um because I thought we had a better
infrastructure to do so inshallah maybe there'll be Muslim family games
		
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			so maybe we will have internet Academy camp after
		
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			okay look Yeah, we are going to be getting into the last three nights of Ramadan
		
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			Monday Monday night is the 21st night so first possible a little cadre that's very soon and I I we
I'm inviting the brothers here I they didn't know what we're inviting them to come and have the
podcast in the in the masjid the on the nights that you normally on inshallah, and then we'll have
some people they obviously we can only follow the machine to the capacity that it's allowed, you
know, they will be the program of dadgad Molina Salim will be reciting the full course and in the
last day night. sha Allah
		
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			Yeah, and and we pray that Allah to Allah grant us a successful ending of Ramadan.
		
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			And we must make a lot of do Iman, because as much as we trying to figure stuff out, now, the
solution is with Allah. If Allah Allah doesn't grant us His mercy, you know, and he's not enough
Salah lamoreaux to be Sui, lm urashima Robbie,
		
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			the nafs will. So yes, we must continue the conversation. We must try to figure things out. But we
must also know that this is a higher power that's in charge of all of this. And he knows in his
divine infinite wisdom and knowledge, why things are the way they are. We can we we puzzle. No one
has all the answers. No one has all the solutions if the world could change so rapidly in 50 years,
who on earth could have played catch up? You know, but
		
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			we shouldn't give up hope and we shouldn't stop trying. But we must pray to Allah subhanho wa Taala.
		
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			Yeah, pray align these last three nights, man. Don't just pray for your own self and for your own
life. And for your neighbors. Ladies, you must pray for the oma. You got the NBA used to play. You
know, Luca Maria Maria system used to play football.
		
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			We're in new Eva beaker. What do reata homina shaytani Raji and take refuge in You? Oh Allah. For
her. This is Maryam mother. Right? I take refuge in You Oh Allah, for her and her progeny from the
accosted Satan. You know, I honestly believe that they must have been some great grandfather great,
great uncle, someone who made it to offer me that that saved my life and going down the
		
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			Ebrahim, honestly, yeah, it was the knowmia Absolutely. And we have to have that concern because
it's a different world. It's a different way it's a reality. The Quran look here we can look past is
all of us sitting here. We will highly affected by the Quran. So my first thought was like Okay, get
into an Islamic organization.
		
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			Study in Islamic Learning Institute part time something like that, because the Quran even though we
can't articulate it, but the Quran has the answers.
		
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			Yeah, I read me speak about, you know, the secondary challenges that come from living online, but
inshallah, inshallah we will attack
		
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			you must maybe just do like a special a specific podcast, right? We can do that the following number
one, let the youth themselves mention the challenges, but actually you're them. Like, if it's about
them, but without them then is it really for them? So we get them on?
		
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			Who am I lately? Yeah. And what is in what is what is it? What is the W Gemma do a takes you out of
the, you know?
		
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			What
		
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			I'm saying the concept of taking him out to the space. I mean, that's why even that we find that
youth camps and things are effective because you take him out of the environment. And they have a
chance to really, you know, vision for themselves or envision for yourself something different we
add we add
		
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			as much room on our back in the day we add in the view of these areas.
		
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			So I was used to go I mean, if you think about it, right, we had a New Year's Eve thing for lack for
for children at the mosque at a mosque. Yeah. And people thought who's gonna come in because all the
messages are not all the messages but all the places are closed Islamic organization, even if it is
a holiday, so people thought it's gonna be a colossal failure because who's gonna wanna come the you
guys know it was it was extremely popular and well received. Because with gaming with gaming with
adventure
		
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			Amazing Race. Why? Because it was a genuine alternative. And that showed that people are looking for
alternatives you know, it's just very difficult
		
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			for me you get this really like put my number the in the comments, these are
		
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			all the spectrums, okay, like this young girl this program specifically designed for them young
boys, parents, if you are struggling as a parent is a lot of Outman. I'm saying like the so much out
there. And if you are teaching then just like drop me a message we can direct it to one of these
organizations or one of these people that are capable to assist in that regard. Yeah, I don't have
your number there right now but I'm gonna put on my number because I have it already in a comment.
Oops, not so brothers.
		
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			So it's, I'm in a type of coding. There we go. There we go. There we go. You can just send a
message, voice note, etc. And then I will I'll put you in contact with all of these things.
inshallah. We will talk about this again. Just a couple of final for joining us. For those of you
who stayed and really want to go sleep. I love play Skyrim VR again you sleep.
		
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			For those of you who are falling asleep already, Allah Allah grant you a gnome Salim.
		
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			Hello, Anna city, no Mohammed Hannelore behind this mechanical arm won't be near to Allah in the
high land and stuff Luca wanted to be like cinnamal A como la obrigado.