Ingrid Mattson – Muslim Traditions on Healing

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The speakers discuss the need for healing in the midst of mourning the 911 tragedy, acknowledging the importance of understanding who were reversed of the violence and expressing sympathy for those affected. They also emphasize the need for forgiveness and a reconciliation in the aftermath. The speakers acknowledge the need for an apology and a celebration of the community's relief, but emphasize the importance of transformation and healing, which may distorted the way people are treated and impact the way people are treated in the future. They believe transformation is not just a apologizing for, but rather a change in the way people are treated.

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			Serene, once again, has done just such a
		
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			beautiful job of
		
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			framing the issues
		
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			and bringing us into
		
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			a a very personal space
		
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			where trauma
		
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			and healing
		
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			potentially can occur.
		
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			In a in a briefer time, I just
		
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			want
		
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			to
		
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			talk a little bit about
		
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			the issues I've struggled with, thinking
		
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			about
		
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			healing with respect to the 911 tragedy. Because
		
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			in the end, this is why we're here.
		
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			We're not talking about healing in general,
		
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			but healing about the 911 tragedy.
		
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			And,
		
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			so many of the examples of healing
		
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			that I can think of,
		
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			that I draw upon
		
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			as resources from the Islamic tradition,
		
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			involve
		
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			situations where the perpetrator
		
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			of the harm or the violence is known,
		
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			And the victims of the injustice have some
		
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			opportunity
		
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			to
		
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			either take revenge,
		
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			to get justice, to teach a lesson,
		
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			or to reconcile
		
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			with the perpetrators.
		
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			Now, most
		
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			of the people who were involved in the
		
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			of course, Osama Bin Laden was still at
		
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			large, and
		
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			we kept looking for him until he was
		
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			killed, and
		
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			maybe we can talk a little bit more
		
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			about what that meant to us.
		
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			But let's think about about what it
		
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			means first when
		
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			the perpetrators are still,
		
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			present.
		
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			When we speak about a major
		
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			societal
		
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			trauma, as 911 was.
		
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			And when I think
		
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			about the example that I gave in the
		
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			readings
		
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			of the prophet Muhammad and the early Muslim
		
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			community
		
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			able to return to to Mecca, where those
		
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			who had oppressed
		
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			them, and tormented them, and exiled them from
		
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			the city,
		
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			and continue to harass them, and wage war
		
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			on them.
		
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			What
		
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			was
		
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			that
		
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			reconciliation
		
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			that eventually
		
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			it was made possible by, first of all,
		
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			to resist
		
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			further oppression were
		
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			were within a certain boundary
		
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			that did not make it impossible
		
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			to later reconcile.
		
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			And we spoke about this,
		
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			the other week,
		
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			when I mentioned the prohibition on mutilation
		
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			of the bodies of the enemy.
		
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			That part of that
		
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			prohibition
		
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			made it possible
		
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			to
		
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			to both for the Muslims themselves and their
		
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			opponents
		
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			recognize a mutual human humanity
		
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			and dignity in the bodies,
		
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			even in the midst of warfare.
		
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			And I think without that, there there may
		
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			be some doors for reconciliation
		
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			that would have been closed because the trauma,
		
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			the further trauma of that may have been
		
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			too intense.
		
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			And then there was this
		
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			hope,
		
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			a persistent
		
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			hope that
		
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			reconciliation
		
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			would be possible, even in the most difficult
		
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			enemies will one day be beloved to you.
		
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			So this act of an imagination, which seems
		
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			an impossibility
		
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			in the moment,
		
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			that
		
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			these enemies
		
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			may be
		
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			in the some future
		
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			your beloved brothers.
		
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			It's almost like a vision statement.
		
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			You know, and then how do you work
		
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			towards that?
		
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			So what I'm saying is that healing
		
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			is a process that needs to begin even
		
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			in the midst of
		
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			mourning.
		
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			We have to set up the possibility for
		
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			healing
		
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			even in the way that we mourn and
		
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			even in the way that we seek justice.
		
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			I think about the Quran story of Joseph.
		
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			For those of you who haven't read the
		
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			Quran,
		
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			the story of Joseph as narrated in the
		
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			Quran is really one of the most beautiful
		
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			parts of the Quran.
		
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			About Joseph being betrayed by his brothers,
		
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			Being discarded by them, being picked up and
		
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			and sold,
		
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			carried to a foreign land,
		
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			adopted by those foreigners who gave him a
		
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			completely new identity.
		
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			Then in that new home being falsely accused
		
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			of trying to seduce the woman of the
		
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			house,
		
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			being imprisoned,
		
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			but
		
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			but then leaving jail because of his ability
		
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			to interpret dreams.
		
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			He saves the people of Egypt from famine,
		
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			They're speaking to
		
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			him face to face and they do not
		
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			know that this is a new life. He
		
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			saves the people of Egypt from famine and
		
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			in his new life. And in his new
		
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			They're speaking to him face to face, and
		
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			they do not know that this is their
		
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			brother.
		
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			He tricks his brothers
		
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			into thinking that the younger brother has done
		
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			has stolen something,
		
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			and now they must leave the younger brother
		
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			in his custody.
		
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			Eventually, they have a realization.
		
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			By repeating the action
		
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			to the younger brother that mirrored the the
		
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			action of injustice that they did to Joseph,
		
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			now
		
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			they come to realize what they had done,
		
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			and they in that realization
		
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			also now recognize Joseph.
		
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			They're forgiven by Joseph and there's a reconciliation.
		
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			Now, this is a very moving story
		
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			with a tidy ending. And again, it doesn't
		
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			fit
		
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			with this kind of massive trauma that we
		
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			have in 911.
		
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			And I think
		
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			part of the struggle that we've had
		
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			in the wake of 911
		
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			is
		
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			the struggle with understanding
		
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			who were the perpetrators of the violence.
		
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			Who were they?
		
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			We know
		
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			there were the terrorists themselves who died
		
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			in the plane.
		
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			We know about Osama bin Laden, who later
		
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			was caught,
		
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			but we felt that it was so massive
		
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			that there had to be something more. There
		
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			had to be something more, and
		
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			who How could we heal if we couldn't
		
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			find a partner
		
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			to,
		
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			you
		
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			know, apologize to us?
		
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			Or
		
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			that
		
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			can bring and feel a satisfaction
		
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			with serving justice
		
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			upon them.
		
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			It makes me understand, I think, a little
		
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			bit
		
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			this
		
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			persistent question that many in the American Muslim
		
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			community have gotten for the last decade.
		
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			Gotten for the last decade.
		
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			This constant question, why
		
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			do muslims
		
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			not speak out
		
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			against terrorism?
		
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			Why do we not hear Muslims talking
		
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			about
		
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			these horrors? And I used I thought
		
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			that it was only really a question of
		
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			communications.
		
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			You know, this is how I understood it.
		
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			I thought, you know, we remember
		
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			bad news more than good news. Even though
		
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			Muslims have been very vocal in denouncing
		
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			violence, terrorism in the name of Islam, it's
		
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			not being heard
		
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			in the same way that when you watch
		
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			the evening news, the bad stories stick with
		
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			you, and the good ones fade away. It
		
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			has to do something with
		
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			the way we under process information, especially
		
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			threats.
		
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			But I'm starting to think that
		
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			kind of beneath the question was almost a
		
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			desire for an apology
		
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			from us
		
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			for what happened. Because
		
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			when it was such a major societal
		
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			trauma,
		
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			there was a need and I think there
		
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			remains a need for a for
		
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			a kind of equal partner in that for
		
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			the oppressor,
		
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			the perpetrator of violence to somehow
		
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			reflect that
		
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			social structure,
		
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			that
		
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			breadth,
		
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			and in a way we were, and we
		
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			have been the kind of,
		
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			you know, proxy
		
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			maybe.
		
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			And I think that it's very difficult for
		
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			healing to continue
		
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			or to occur
		
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			on a societal level until we realize that,
		
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			and it's one of the reasons why I
		
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			personally
		
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			felt a lot of sympathy for those people
		
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			who expressed
		
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			not only relief
		
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			that Osama bin Laden was killed.
		
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			I understood that very well. I think many
		
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			of us did,
		
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			but also
		
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			a sense of joy and
		
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			a need to celebrate it.
		
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			I wasn't as critical as people who felt
		
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			that way, because
		
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			I felt
		
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			that
		
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			there ne there was
		
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			for a long time, you know, Serene talks
		
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			about this trauma kind of circulating. I felt
		
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			that there wasn't a place for it to
		
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			go,
		
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			and now, finally,
		
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			in this
		
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			larger than life character,
		
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			there was a place to put that.
		
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			And I even felt
		
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			that somehow
		
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			a relief
		
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			of the pressure from my community
		
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			to now be
		
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			in the position
		
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			of,
		
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			even unconsciously,
		
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			you know, apologizing for what happened. We didn't
		
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			do it,
		
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			and now it was kind of understood. Because
		
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			here was
		
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			the person, very clearly,
		
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			no longer a myth,
		
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			who had done it.
		
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			But let me just say,
		
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			when we look at 911, what can I
		
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			learn from these
		
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			stories
		
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			that I've related
		
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			that might help us
		
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			in this area?
		
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			One of the things that I see in
		
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			the Joseph story
		
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			is that he became a new person.
		
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			I mean, he became such a different person.
		
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			You know, he was transported to a different
		
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			land. He had a new name, a new
		
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			identity, new relationships, to the point where his
		
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			own family couldn't
		
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			recognize him. Although, of course, he kept his
		
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			values, which is why he landed in in
		
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			prison in the first place, or in the
		
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			second place, let's
		
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			say. But what is it
		
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			about
		
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			trauma
		
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			and then healing
		
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			that
		
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			leads to a certain kind of growth that
		
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			in some cases may be distorted.
		
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			It may be
		
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			a misshapen
		
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			growth.
		
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			It may be a healing over or a
		
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			scar, but also the possibility
		
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			for something new.
		
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			I think
		
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			we are all transformed
		
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			by
		
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			trauma.
		
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			We're never going to regain our past selves,
		
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			ever.
		
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			We can't go back and be the people
		
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			we were before it happened.
		
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			And
		
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			you know, the people who died
		
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			are dead.
		
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			You know?
		
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			Now, from a theological perspective,
		
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			I don't believe it's pollyannish
		
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			to believe that they have a new life
		
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			with God. I believe that is
		
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			a dignification
		
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			of their life,
		
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			and
		
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			the ultimate,
		
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			you know, judgement of them that those who
		
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			died innocently
		
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			are not the same as those who died
		
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			committing evil.
		
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			They're not the same
		
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			in their
		
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			death. There's a value judgment there, and that's
		
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			why in my tradition you not only need
		
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			to believe in God,
		
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			but you need to believe
		
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			in
		
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			the final judgment.
		
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			That what we do affects
		
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			forever,
		
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			for eternity,
		
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			who we are.
		
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			If you die committing evil
		
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			and perpetuating evil, you are in a different
		
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			state than one who dies innocently
		
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			at the hands of an evil person.
		
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			But for those who remain,
		
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			that is can give some comfort, but it
		
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			doesn't heal the wounds.
		
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			It doesn't heal the gaping
		
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			space in your life.
		
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			But in this space,
		
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			what happens? I think this idea of life
		
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			continuing or moving on,
		
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			it's not so much moving on as this
		
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			new kind of growth.
		
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			We see
		
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			that in his suffering,
		
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			Joseph became a new person through service to
		
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			others,
		
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			who weren't his people.
		
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			The Egyptians were not his people.
		
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			They'd not He'd not particularly
		
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			benefited
		
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			that much from them,
		
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			but he saved them.
		
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			Can you imagine what 7 years of famine
		
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			would do,
		
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			especially to children?
		
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			Those who are developing physically and mentally.
		
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			7 years of malnutrition,
		
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			those who wouldn't die would be stunted in
		
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			their bodies and their minds.
		
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			His
		
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			willingness
		
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			and desire
		
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			to save
		
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			those people
		
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			meant that
		
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			there was a certain kind of trauma that
		
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			at least wouldn't continue
		
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			in that next generation.
		
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			I think of the 10 years that we've
		
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			spent
		
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			since 9,112,001,
		
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			and I think of the ways that we've
		
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			tried
		
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			we've tried to prevent trauma from being passed
		
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			on
		
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			to the young people, and in other ways
		
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			where maybe we haven't done such a good
		
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			job.
		
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			But if we're talking about societal healing,
		
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			how can we talk about society without looking
		
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			at the way in which we may be
		
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			passing down
		
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			our wounds
		
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			onto others? What would make this society look
		
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			different
		
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			than it does now, 30 years from now,
		
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			either better
		
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			or worse.
		
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			And,
		
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			you know, in the end,
		
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			unless we
		
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			unless we pay attention to that
		
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			and find a way
		
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			to become new people,
		
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			having recognizing
		
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			that we are different people
		
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			because of what has happened.
		
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			And we learn to fill that new space
		
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			and grow in ways
		
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			that will
		
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			impact the others in a positive way, then
		
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			I think,
		
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			I think,
		
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			it will be a greater tragedy.