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The speakers discuss the importance of proving that the office is legitimate and protecting privacy and privacy. They also talk about the upcoming return of a star to a video and the importance of protecting privacy and privacy in the office. The conversation touches on the crisis of COVID-19 and the need for people to act ethically and not just for political gain. Dr. MJ Suleman discusses his " gifts of the givers" program, which is focused on helping people with mental health issues to protect others.
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Then that the DPP has taken the decision to prosecute advocate
nkwe. Now, I heard things like perjury.
Can you help us unpack what does perjury mean?
Perjury occurs when a person lies on oath. No, it's one thing to
tell a lie that makes you dishonest. It makes you
mendacious. But when you put your hand up and say, So, help me God,
after you've just written down a lie, then you are committing
perjury, and it is a serious offense, because courts are
entitled to assume that people who put affidavits on record in courts
are telling the truth. Otherwise, the administration of justice
becomes exceedingly complicated, and you have to instead of
accepting the affidavit on the face of it, you have to have
trials and credibility findings and a lot more time consuming and
expensive court work. So when an official such as the Public
Protector, which is a very high office in our constitutional
center, chooses to tell lies on oath and to place them before the
highest court in the land and to be caught out by the highest court
in the land she ought, if she has any decency in her, to put her
tail between her legs, resign and disappear into the longest grass
that She can find. Wow. Okay, this has not happened. Yeah, so you
guys have written to the president to ask him accountability. Now has
written to the president to ask him to suspend her. And why is the
why is this worthy of a suspension? What is it about the
Office of the Public Protector that makes the fact that her word
seems to now not be worth much based on the evidence. Why is that
so crucial to what that job requires? You see, the job of the
Public Protector is to look into complaints of maladministration,
investigate them, produce a report and to make appropriate remedial
action findings. Now, appropriate remedial action is about as wide
as it's high, as long as it's appropriate and is not set aside
on review, which happens far too often lately, as long as the
remedial action is appropriate, those persons who are told to
carry out the remedial action are obliged to do so. So it's very
clear that the integrity of the process which gets to the point
where remedial action is ordered by the Public Protector is vital
to the proper administration of justice in that office, so you
don't want a Public Protector veering off into strange
directions, as happened in the case in question, telling
parliament to please just change the mandate of the Reserve Bank
that cost the Country trillions of rands when everybody around the
world said, Oh, South Africa is about to become a Banana Republic.
It didn't happen because the courts put it right. But if it had
simply been up to advocate in Kobani, we would have a completely
different reserve bank to the one that we have at the moment. Sure,
Paul, thank you so much for laying it out so succinctly and simply
for us. Really appreciate your time this evening on a public
holiday. You definitely have helped us out a lot. It's been,
it's been a complicated few years, and trying to, you know, keep
abreast of all the developments regarding the public protectors
office, thank you. You're welcome. All right. Well, we are going to
go on a short break when we come back, we continue with our trends
right here on trading essay, you don't want to miss Out. Hashtag
reconciliation. Day 2020. You
I can only party here
because I'm working. You know that we can all see your Instagram. I
mustn't lie. I don't party anyway. Okay, so we were talking about
reconciliation. Day 2020, a little earlier, and I try.
To show you what everyone else was saying on the topic of who should
probably never lead a reconciliation Day address like
the President did earlier today. Thank you so much to Deirdre for
weighing in on this topic, saying definitely Minister nkozana lamini
Zuma, she divided our nation. We don't want to hear smokers. Will
definitely a smoker. Yeah, smokers will never get over it when people
okay. And then marredi Arthur Ashley decided to drag Julius.
Julius,
n, l, A, S, I, A, S,
I don't want to say anything. I like my timeline. You like your
timeline. I don't want people in
red. This next story popped up on my timeline after an audio
recording of Hollywood actor Mr. Tom Cruise started circulating on
social media. In the recording, the award winning actor can be
heard erupting in frustration at the crew members on set of Mission
Impossible, 38 why?
Guys for breaking covid guidelines. Just take a listen to
this. I don't ever want to see you again, ever.
And if you don't do it, you're fired. I see you do it again.
You're gone, and anyone on this crew does it,
that's it. And you do and you too,
and you ever do
it again,
that's it. Yo guys, this seems pretty calm.
He seems pretty calm. Okay, so many people on Twitter, Bill
lauded the actor for being stern in cautioning the crew members
about breaking cautioning. No, he was very calm. It's not that it
was jumping the couch or something, all right, so me James
Brown said he's obviously asked them before to practice safety,
and they continue to put families and jobs at risk. These are
serious times, and grown people shouldn't be asked multiple times
to practice safety. This was not just fluffing your lines. And then
Jason Jordan says this, he seems to be talking to about two or
three people whom he could have easily pulled aside and spoken to
them privately any other situation and a boss or coach screaming on
their employees like that would have been lambasted for abuse or
power.
I guess the real question then is becomes, should we be calling each
other out when people don't adhere to covid regulation. I know and
how should it work. I know where you are in this because you're
calling out the security guard at our gate. Everybody out, left,
right and center, ma'am behind me in the supermarket, key, social
distance. I don't want to know that. I know so many people who
work in industries who have not worked for months, and so I
identify with his rage, because if you have close people that you
know have battled through such a rough time this year and their
lives just start getting back on track, they're busy shooting a
movie, and one person jeopardizes it for such a big team, and I'm
just triggered because somebody touched my trolley at the shops
and then told me when I told when I called them out and said that if
I'm so scared of covid, I shouldn't be at the shop. And I
practiced something that I didn't know I had in me. I didn't know my
own strength. I walked away. Look at you. I think
we talked through it. I feel my own strength. I think the point at
this stage of this whole covid drama is do not feel touched on
your studio. If someone addresses you about upholding covid
protocols, it's not personal. We just don't want to die. Thank you.
We're just trying to make it through global pandemic. And
speaking of making it through
the provincial ANC has reinstated the former siguni Mayor zandale As
a member, or rather she's they've allowed her to resume her
legislative duties and
ANC duties as well, despite the fact that she's out in belf on
charges related to money laundering, corruption and fraud
amounting to 430
million Rand. And then, on the other hand, here in gauteng, the
ANC integrity committee made a very, very different ruling about
Secretary sorry, Secretary General aides, makasuleh, who's also
facing 21 charges of his own of fraud and corruption, amounting to
255
million Rand. So the integrity committee has recommended that he
stepped out at the immediate effect. We'll see what happens to
that decision. So as soon as this news broke, Zandile gumedia
obviously started trending. Farida van de Cobb says no action will be
taken by the NEC even if they are eventually found guilty, they'll
appeal and continue in their positions. I.
Undercover of the ANC, guilty until innocent, until proven
guilty. Joining us now is political and social commentator,
Lucano vanca, welcome to the show.
Good evening, guys. Thank you for having me. Lucano, what now? What
is going on here? What do you make of it? Well, there's there's a lot
of clashes, and this is partly due to the complexity of the decision
that was made, that was made by the ANC at its conference. And the
reason for that is because they made a political decision, but it
has serious legal consequences. So those clashes lead to this
confusion that we have now, this is not only the second one, it's
actually the third decision. Now, because remember denim Caesar and
France, Lana in limpombo, similar thing happened, and they were
brought back. Then the ANC integrity committee makes a
decision that the SG must step aside. But within this very same
day, the PEC of KZN makes a decision that zani no kumeto must
actually come back. So these clashes speaks to the complexity
of the issue. To simplify this issue very succinctly, they must
appeal to the ethics of the comrades and the also the
discipline of their comrades. In ANC, the decision was made because
the political decision they participated in making this
decision in NASDAQ, they therefore must abide by this decision, and
the ANC must demand that of them. So let's, let's pretend we live in
a world without ethics. The reason for stepping aside is
fundamentally based on the fact that service delivery depends on
having untainted and uncomplicated people in government right, surely
beyond ethics and morality,
definitely there's the fact that it also serves a utility value
this decision that they made that the incumbent is not fighting for
their political life at the same time fighting to service The lives
of their citizens and the residents of etequini. So
definitely, there is that utility value that comes in here, and it's
also one of the reasons that the ANC must then also appeal to the
revolutionary consciousness of their comrades to say you
participated in this decision. I mean, this is definitely not the
time to question the decision now, after it's been made and adopted,
if people wanted legal opinions they should have done before, done
that before. Nazareth, now it stands. Thank you so much for your
time this evening. Always appreciate a chat with you and
your insights as well. So with us, we are going on a quick break and
see you in a little in a little bit, the conversation continues.
It is on a CBC, three.
Music.
Welcome back to training. Sa the Eastern Cape has been declared one
of the areas most affected by the second wave of the coronavirus
pandemic. The local government has taken measures to curb the spread
of the virus. But the superheroes we are honoring next, the gift of
the givers came together with the Makanda municipality to help,
particularly with hospital facilities, something very needed
at this point, right? So, the gift of the givers rehabilitated an
isolation wing at the settlers Hospital in Makanda, Eastern Cape,
with the high care facilities amounting to 750,000
rands with high care equipment that included 20 beds and oxygen
points. All of this was organized in just five days, five five days,
people took to Twitter to upload the gift of the givers. Graham had
this to say, I don't think we praise gift of the givers enough,
or truly contemplate the level of work they put in where the
government simply fails. These guys renovated an old Makanda
hospital ward in one week to offer 20 beds with covid, 19 high care
and oxygen, all at 750k
where do we vote? This is what Thomas had to say. Said, gift of
the givers really deserve more recognition, recognition, not that
they seek it for the excellent work that they do. And I agree. So
of course, we are just here as trending yesterday to give props
where props is due, and joining us online now is Doctor MJ Suleman,
founder of gift of the givers, to tell us more about the work
they've been doing around the country since the outbreak of this
covid 19 pandemic. Welcome to the show. Dr Suleman, thank you so
much for your time. Thanks a lot. Thank you very much for inviting
me on your program. You managed to refurbish a wing at settlers
Hospital in just five days. Tell us about the work that went into
that project and how you got people to assist. Well,
we've got our own building.
Teams. We've got experience, because in June, the end of June,
we refurbished the Mitchells plain, the lantern here wing in in
Mitchell plain. And this is a whole hospital ward. And it took
basically
30 days to renovate an entire hospital wing, that same building.
Team we sent into Makanda, and we said, look, this is urgent. We
were there last week. We walked around with the Super the SEO, or
the hospital. We found those two wards, and they were closed. And
they said, Why are these wards closed? When you're telling me
your casual is full of patients, you're showing the patients lying
there? They said, this ward belonged to a private hospital.
They left, and after they left, nobody else could deal the we
couldn't fix it. So I said, If we fix it up, will that be okay for
you? You know, the amazing part, all credit goes to the CEO. You
know, normally with red tape, it takes months to get the signature
in two minutes. She said, go ahead and do it. Wow. 48 hours later,
our wallet thing was there. They started on Saturday, the following
Thursday, they were finished, and we went in on Tuesday, and they
were in absolute awe. They couldn't believe what they were
seeing. So Dr selimon, we love this project, but we also just
love how effective you guys are at what you do. We just have about
two minutes left. What is the secret to how effective you are,
and how can we get that effectivity to start infecting
everything else we do here in South Africa? But
credit goes to my team members. You know, we got a team that are
passionate. It's not about money, it's not about Days and Night.
It's not about Christmas and long weekends. They work Monday to
Sunday and they go beyond the call of duty because they are, they are
passionate about serving people. They're passionate about love of
compassion and helping people in difficulty. So it's all about our
the Committee of the people that we have committed and also we got
30 years of experience. You know, we've done this all the time.
We've been in war zones, we've been in earthquakes, we've been
all over the world. The University of the drought. We did a lot of
things in Eastern Cape and in the country. Yeah. So it's about
professional people. It's about being efficient, quick decision
making. And we had a plan drawn out already in March, and we just
basically follow following that plan since march up to now. Doc,
thank you so much, and it's trending to say we, we love the
work that you, you guys are doing. We thank you. Keep on. Keep
keeping on.
Thank you very much. Correct? It seems like trouble is brewing at
the Kimia resident alfad was reported that the Hollywood's
unlikely power couple is living separately and are focusing on
their personal project and coming together for the kids. And as a
self proclaimed connoisseur of messy affairs,
I can tell you for free that there's trouble in paradise. Guys,
what do you guys think of what's going on? You know what? Guys, I
mean, we, we've all we've seen the speculation. We've saw Kim's we
saw Kim's update or message about Kanye as mental health issues. We
don't know quite what it is, but all I can say is I can understand
how families supporting people that are dealing with mental
illness, how fatigued they get, right? And it's just a lot, a lot,
a lot to do with someone who falls off the wagon gets back on the
wagon. I mean, they obviously, I'm sure they're tired of it, but to
be on the receiving end and supporting them, yes, I totally
get the fatigue that mental illness rots, not only on the
person who suffers, but also their immediate loved ones. But I feel
like even through the wire, Kanye, yeah, back in the day, Kanye was a
lot.
I don't know if he's marriage material, yeah, I think they're
both a lot though. So maybe that's what made them perfect initially.
And people on Twitter actually do agree with you guys, because opryn
Benedict says that it's too much stress handling mania and he can't
seem to regulate. Also concerned with his obsession with religion,
not a good sign. It goes hand in hand with psychosis. And I repeat
obsession, guys, I understand with mental illness what people are
going through. Mina, I always with that. We're also going to check
out what's been making the rounds on the movie circuit, so you don't
want to miss out good night. You.