Imtiaz Sooliman – The Gift of the Givers has outlined what it would take to get Gauteng through the third wave

Imtiaz Sooliman
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The speakers discuss the potential for a hospital to reopen after COVID-19, emphasizing the success of the hospital and the importance of keeping patients out of harm's way. They also discuss the use of oxygen and the potential for super spread events in healthcare facilities, including the use of marijuana and the potential for COVID-19 cases to spread quickly. The speakers emphasize the need for leadership and leadership in the healthcare system to prevent deaths and improve patient care, while also noting the Hill Brown's hospital in 40% capacity and potential for hospital renovations to open more hospitals.
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Them and that legal entity and follow something else. Yes, the

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hospital got burnt. We understand that, but did the whole hospital,

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but part of it burnt. So can't we shut off the part of the hospital

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and still open? They got fantastic. I mean, I was there two

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weeks ago. I got a shock to see what a beautiful hospital this is.

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You know, in your mind was, I haven't been in practice. I

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haven't been in hospitals for a long time. Your mind, you think

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it's a government hospital. It can't be. So. Graham, be so Glenn,

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but this is an absolutely fantastic hospital. It's got 28

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theaters. Not that we need theaters now for covid, 19, but

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it's got fantastic ICUs for pediatric, for medical, for

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surgical and for covid. All that is being wasted whilst patients

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are floundering, not knowing where to go. We need somebody in the

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government who has got a decision making process, who can take a

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decision. There's a serious lack of leadership. How can you allow

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people patients to be struggling when nobody can get together and

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said, Look, we need to take a decision. Yes, the rule says they

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will have this form and that paper and that certificate, but this is

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an emergency. You know what? You can bypass all those things,

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declaring rules that can bypass at the same time, making sure that

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nobody's lives will be put at risk. And that can be done by

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cutting out part of the hospital, even if two thirds are functional

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or half is functional. It takes a huge burden of other hospitals.

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Yeah, and it's about saving lives. MTS tell us about the kinds of

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calls gift of the givers has been getting from family, from family

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of people suffering from covid 19 desperate for oxygen canisters.

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It's nothing new. We got that in the first wave, far more in the

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second wave. But what has been frightening in the third wave is

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that doctors are calling for oxygen, not patients. To that

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extent, when doctors are saying, like in the last 48 hours, let's

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put it this way, on Sunday, we got so many calls for oxygen

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concentrators, so we asked, but you guys had oxygen concentrators

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in the first and the second wave where they now the one guy said,

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we've already used 140

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and we weighed behind what we require. And this is a doctor, and

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he says, we probably need another 500 to 1000

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that's from one area of job. I get a call from other areas of Gauteng

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to say, we use 100. Is they're not coming back. People are still

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sick. We need another it's need another 40 or 50 more immediately.

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And the similar cause comes from other parts of Gauteng to say, you

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know, we are in serious trouble. So then doctors call. They say, We

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are physicians. Can we put up the patients in a hall? So I said, Why

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are you going to do that? They said, there's no hospital beds. So

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I said, Are you going to take responsibility of this patient

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after four o'clock in the afternoon? Are you going to be

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there the whole night, and if there's not 110, or 14, are you

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going to look after all those patients? The physician says, No,

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I can't do that. So I said, then safer to leave them at home with

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their families, and we can't bring families to the hall, because that

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could become a super spread event. Unfortunately, some of the things

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are not disciplined. So you know what? You could have a problem

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where the super spreader events involved. So I said, What's the

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requirement? They said, Look, we need oxygen in hospitals, but

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there's no hospital to there's no beds, the casualties are full. All

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we can do as physicians and GPS is go to people's homes. Now that's a

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huge strain on healthcare personnel to go to people's homes.

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It takes up a * of a lot of time, and especially when there's

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so many patients and there's so many people, you can't be having

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that kind of situation. You need to free the healthcare workers and

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to put more staff into expend more hospitals. There is another

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solution, obvious, by the way,

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and this is if we can open Charles McKee partially. Look now what I'm

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telling you, I've been to the hospital. I don't know the

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engineering plan, but it looks quite clear that you can use quite

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a part of the hospital. I'm not an engineer, but from what it seems,

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it's fine for part of the hospital. Then I've been told by

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staff who are working in Hill Brown hospital that the hospital

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is only 40% capacity. What stops us from doing cosmetic

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renovations, making it organized, even these innovations, put in

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oxygen points, and they don't have it and open up more facilities in

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Hill Brown we're taking the pressure off other hospitals. Then

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the shocking news is, I've been told facilities were built in

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marijuana, but they're not open. They're not being used, dedicated

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for covid 19. I haven't seen those facilities, but I got information

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from more than one source. Yeah, and the other point is, somebody

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sent me a video of a hospital that was built in 96 in Campton Park.

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It's never used. Apparently, it's vandalized. It's there for the

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taking enough space. All it requires, again, is renovation.

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Oxygen for covid. You need oxygen, points, beds and stuff that's

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already required, nothing more than that. Yeah, and you know all,

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and if there's ICU required, open up Charlotte McKey, we've got the

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ICU facilities there, and you can move patients from these other

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places to Charlotte McKee. I mean, what you know, it's, it's

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difficult to understand from what you're describing, that government

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hasn't described the situation in the same kind of panicked way that

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you just have in tears. Is there real political will to make the

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changes, to open the hospitals, to hire the staff, to do what's

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needed?

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I.

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Can't say there's no political world. Look at a time whilst I'm

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saying government is not doing the right thing at the same time,

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there's a lot of good people in government who want the right

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thing to be done. The problem is their own rules. They are caught

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up in their own regulations. They don't know how to bypass their own

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systems. Their systems are bogging them down, and they too. To the

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left of the law. This is an emergency. Emergency means all the

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rules are broken. You know, you do what is necessary to save life.

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But of course, by taking due precaution, making sure the

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structure is not going to fall on 50 patients in China's mechanical

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space or whatever needs to be done, bring in more vertical

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staff. Hire people calling from the public. We pray you for three

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months, six months, whatever you know what we need to bring

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personality. And the other great assets in covid 19 are paramedics.

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Yeah, we put paramedics, 19 of them in Livingston hospital, and

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they're working like machines. You all you need is someone to monitor

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the oxygen and to see what's going on, and then you put to a position

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so these things can be done, you know. So I'm not saying there's a

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lack of political maybe there's anxiety, maybe there's fear, maybe

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people are scared if something goes wrong, I'll take the fall.

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No, I'll just look at the irresponsible one. But you need

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leadership. Yeah, the government seriously needs to show

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leadership, because not them, the citizens are suffering and they're

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dying. Yeah, absolutely, lives are at stake. We need medical

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professionals. We need oxygen concentrators. We need covid 19

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beds. Imjea Suleman is the founder of gift of the givers. Thanks, as

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always, for your time here on the am report.

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