Imtiaz Sooliman – Remembering Stephen McGowan, Yolande & Pierre Korkie & Kevin Harris 2018

Imtiaz Sooliman
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A young South African man was assaulted by al Qaeda terrorists and was kept in captivity for six years until his return toewership and loss of his human ranking. He was eventually shot and fired by the Yemen government leading to his return and loss of his human ranking. He later appealed for help and received gifts to build his profile and build goodwill with his children. He later lost his life and lost his family, causing a sad time for his mother.
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Steve on the 25th of November, 2011 36 year old South African

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Stephen McGard was kidnapped by al Qaeda terrorists in timber two

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newly married Stephen was motorbiking from London back home

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to Johannesburg,

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abducted. He was held hostage in the deserts of Mali for six years.

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My plan was not to be a hero ever. What I told my family was that if

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I ever encounter problems, I will just leave everything and leave in

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essence,

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we had just been for a walk around Timbuktu myself and some other

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tourists. I was sitting with my phone typing up a bit of a diary.

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It was during the Friday prayer. So the streets were empty. They

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walked in three guys and basically took us out one by one into the

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street,

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cuffed us, loaded us up in the back of a four by four. They

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pulled a cargo net over us so we were unable to move, and then we

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zoomed out into the desert. I was sitting in my office on a Saturday

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morning, and I get this phone call at eight o'clock in the morning,

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and it's from the lady in Holland that he was riding with her son.

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And when she introduced herself, I said, Don't tell me. This is bad

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news. She said, I'm afraid so that's the first we heard. It was

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a shattering news, as you can imagine,

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some 18 months later, in May 2013

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Pierre and Yolanda Koki were abducted by al Qaeda terrorists in

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Yemen.

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At the time, they had been resident with their two young

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children in the southern town of tyres for some four years, Pierre

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taught English, and Yolanda ran grassroots projects in the local

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community.

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Then came war.

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As the situation deteriorated, the corkis found themselves trapped

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waiting for their passports to be renewed by the Yemen authorities,

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with a lot of help and and support from our Yemeni friends. We've

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managed to finally get our passports extracted from the

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government system, and we were actually that afternoon. We just

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left the house to go and collect the passports with the exit visas.

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And Les Marie, our daughter was 14 at the time. She was going to come

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with us, but she stayed behind with our son. Pier was a very

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hands on father. There were always hugs and kisses being exchanged,

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so those were part of the last few moments, and we left the house,

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and that was the last time Pierre

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saw how spout knew anything about his children.

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That first morning, I phoned all over, every number in Pretoria

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from the government side. I know governments don't pay, but

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whatever the ransom figure was, I want my son home, and I think I

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said to every minister I met, have you got children? Put yourself in

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my shoes. What would you do if your son or daughter, whatever was

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taken

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so I was doing what any father would do when my God, or I was a

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passenger, was yanked open. I think the realization that

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something was going wrong hit us. I was dragged across the road. I

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looked back, Pierre had a gun to his head, and within the next few

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seconds, Pierre was also yanked out of the car and brought and we

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were bundled into the car. There were guys all over the place. The

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car was full to capacity, and we went off. We were being kidnapped.

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But our attention turned to our children, and what were they going

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through? Would they be safe? Would they harm them? What would they

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do?

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You're incarcerated, so your humaneness is you stripped of your

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humaneness and you started going to introspection,

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worry about the children, and we had no contact. We tried

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desperately, several times every day, if we could, we tried to

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initiate a conversation to get contact with him, but we were not

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allowed. It wasn't allowed. But mostly Pierre, I cannot imagine if

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I would have made it without him.

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He managed to keep us to a sort of a routine when, we could, we tried

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to just divide our day. Now you're living without a block, so you've

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got to try and manage the time. Sometimes you wouldn't know

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whether it was day or night, depending on where they kept you.

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Just to keep going, you know, spend time in prayer, talking.

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Singing,

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rubbing each other's backs, going back to the same routine.

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By 2013 through their ongoing relief campaign, gift of the

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givers had established a significant profile in Yemen,

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becoming aware of the corkis abduction, Dr Suleiman and nas

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hamatin gifts representative in Yemen decided to escalate the

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campaign, thereby raising their profile and building further

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goodwill.

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Our advantage is we have a profile in Yemen. People know who we are.

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What we can do is we'll send more supplies, more goods, and start

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increasing the amount of stuff, we started selling into Yemen to

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build goodwill with everybody. And we said, hopefully, maybe it will

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soften somebody and say, Look, South Africa is helping us. Why we

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took a South Africa. Pierre was very, very sick at that time. He

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woke up one morning and he could not hear anything. He was

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completely 100% deaf. It was very traumatic

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time for us, and then the sheik came and said we were going to be

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released

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on the night of the ninth

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they woke us up in the middle of the night somewhere.

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They pulled us out of the room next door into their side, and

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they pushed down pier on the floor, and they said I was going

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first. And I said, No, no, there's a mistake. There's a mistake.

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We're going together. The Shaykh had said, we're going together.

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Beer jumped up. He couldn't hear he was trying to ask, what's going

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on? What's going on? It was a confusing, horrendous few seconds

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we we were holding each other, trying to make sense of what was

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going on, and they tried to calm us down, but they then, they

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separated us forcefully. And the last thing

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Pia said was, if you see the children before I see them, tell

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them I love them and I love you.

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Even though I was released, I was still a hostage. My heart had

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stayed behind almost in Yemen. So I was sort of living on two

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continents, and lots of things went wrong. It was horrendous to

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miltius. 11 months that followed, and that's the one thing I have so

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much appreciation for with for MTS and for Annas, is

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they were 100% accessible. They were not at all phased if I wanted

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to talk at two in the morning.

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They were available to hear my fears. They were available to give

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me to encourage the children and myself. They kept having hope, and

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they kept trying to find a channel or a way to continue with, with

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negotiations for beer, it took us a long time. We had to use tribal

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leaders who met tribal leaders, who met tribal leaders, and over

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the period of time, the tribal leaders eventually, on our behalf,

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sort of pressurized al Qaeda to say, look, we're passing on our

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lands all the time. I kept on sending more supplies. South

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Africa have brought in so much goods, that's why we have to look

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the other way.

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So at 559 on the morning of six december 2014

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I tell Yolandi a message. I said, Yolandi, the wait is finally over.

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He is coming back home.

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I

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got ready, got dressed, washed my hair, maybe today was the day that

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I would be able to fly and

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be, you know, be reunited with beer. And then I got a call from

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Colonel Aaron stradon,

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the FBI on the other side as well, stating that the Americans

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had gone into launch a second rescue operation for the American

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hostage, Luke summers, and they were

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discovered

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before they had executed the complete rescue operation,

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apparently, and out of revenge, the captors then went in and

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killed

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Pia and Luke.

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That was the most difficult thing you know for me to eventually tell

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you jolandi, but she was gracious. She said, Look, I'm not blaming

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anybody, I forgive everybody. Nothing will bring Pierre back.

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You can't have hate, you can't have anger. It's not gonna bring

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Pierre cocky back. And she said Pierre cocky was the kind of guy

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would say, You know what? Forget everything, forgive everybody, let

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things lie and go forward. So I have to be what Pierre would want

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me to be, and that's what I'm going to be now, and that's how it

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ended,

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feeling totally abandoned, held hostage for almost four years in

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June 2015 Steven McGard, under the instruction and supervision of his

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al Qaeda captors, made a proof of life video which was posted on

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social media.

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June 25

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Him, for some strange reason, the TV is on mouse in the morning, and

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suddenly I see this video of Stephen McGowan is like, got to

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the TV on for me, and I said, this is Stephen McGowan, and he's

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showing the pictures. And the way the video is talking. I said to

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me, these guys want to negotiate. I phoned Malcolm. I said, Malcolm,

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I'm taking this case off for you. These guys want to talk. This

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video is telling me that very, very clearly, we work the

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mechanics out afterwards. But yes, I'm going to argue now, because

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these guys want to talk. Let's not lose the opportunity. I heard

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about gift of the givers in I think it was around October in

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2014

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some guys drove into our camp and they said to me, there is a South

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African Muslim organization who are now going to negotiate your

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release. And then they turned to the Swedish guy and said, and

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they're going to negotiate yours as well. And this process took

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over two years. Involved a South African government. South African

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government involved the Swedish government. We told in the

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channels what to do, how it has to be done. We got all information

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for them. Eventually, al Qaeda sent a message. You've done your

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job. You've got your Government to speak to the Mali government. You

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will have your Government to speak to state security, because you

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spoke to our intermediary.

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Again, what message is coming to an intermediary? You sent me the

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videos. They are both alive. Now you have to pull back beyond this

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point. You as an NGO cannot go

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in july 2017,

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after six years of captivity in the desert wilderness of Mali,

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Stephen McGann was released by his al Qaeda captors and arrived back

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home in Johannesburg, South Africa.

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It's the biggest surprise day of my life. I looked out and there's

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this big land rover

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with two big guys in it, and, you know, I opened up, let them in,

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and they said, No, they've got no news. My heart sunk. They said

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they're waiting for a phone call. And eventually I said to them, you

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know, I said, If Stephen is coming back, I just want, please that you

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tell I don't want him to arrive off the plane, to give Kath a hug,

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to give me a hug, and then say, Where's mom?

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I said they must disclose to him that his mother's passed away.

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Yeah, I had many questions the previous evening, asking what I

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was going home to, that I have a wife, that I have a family,

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and well, you can imagine. So, you know,

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another two, I think, Land Rovers arrived with this big black CDs,

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and out jumped Steve

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fully closed

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as he lived in the desert, and my father was the first, first, first

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guy. So walked out, gave me a big hug, lots of tears, and

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they are quite like an emotional overload, if you like,

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obviously, my mom passed away. There were certain topics we

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didn't discuss the first at the time, but it was, I suppose, six

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years of questions and emotion squeezed into

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a moment, a 10 second moment when I saw my father. It was, it was

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quite overwhelming. I felt fantastic on the one hand, but

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very sad on the other. We were a month too late for him to see his

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mother. We didn't succeed in getting out for his mother to see

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him or for him to see his brother. That was the very sad part for us.

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I.

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