Imtiaz Sooliman – Powerful & inspiring ‘There is hope for South Africa’ .

Imtiaz Sooliman
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The speakers discuss the importance of serving people in a meaningful and rewarding way, emphasizing the need for a positive mindset and a positive attitude. They also touch on various projects and projects related to the pandemic, including road construction, planting, and fodder supplies. The speakers emphasize the need for a general emergency team to handle the crisis and create a recovery agency. The conversation also touches on the devastating impact of COVID-19 on agricultural and safety communities, as well as the need for people to invest in infrastructure and have a culture of safety. The segment ends with a call to the Dream Team and a promotion for the Dream Team.
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Thank you, Denise, can you guys hear the back

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thank you Sandile, thank you everybody for being here. A

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special thanks to the people of the city. They've been really,

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really wonderful. We've come here many times. It's been so friendly.

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People have been so warm. It's really been a great experience

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coming to your city so many times in the last five weeks, I

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want to speak a little bit about our origin, speak about

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spirituality, speak about my experience in different projects

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in the country over a period of time, and in that bringing the

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concept of hope for the last few well, from last year, people have

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been talking, you know, people have lost hope. People are afraid,

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people are worried, people are depressed, and all kinds of

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attitudes explaining that when they want to leave the country,

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they're not sure they're safe here or there's any future in this

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country. At the outset, let me make it clear that's the best

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country in the

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world, no matter what the situation is. I You

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guys haven't been to war zones. You haven't seen people tear up

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each other apart. You haven't seen people being bombed. You haven't

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seen people have hatred after being neighbors for years. We

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haven't seen a hardship that's felt by children, women and all

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elderly people. I've seen great difficulty. I've been to many

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countries. I'm doing this for 32 years, and I've led every mission

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to every disaster myself, so I know the hardship and the

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difficulty people go through, we're nowhere near that. And I'll

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explain that as you go along, how we can change things and why we

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are changing things. And in fact, some of the disasters have come,

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in actual fact, have been a blessing in disguise, because it

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has helped us change our mindset, change the narrative, and change

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the way we operate. So let's go. The story starts, gift of the

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givers is not my organization. I didn't get up one morning and say,

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Okay, that's from an organization. Get a name, get a founding

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constitution, write down some principles, get some members and

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write out what we going to do. No. Gift of the gift is not my

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organization. I never thought of forming an organization. It's a

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very spiritual thing that happened. And that happened from

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1985

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I was an internship in caregiver Hospital in Durban. I wanted to

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study internal medicine, to specialize as a physician, but at

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that time, there were not much opportunities. So I couldn't get a

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post to do internal medicine or to become a register or a medical

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officer. So I went to marysburg because my family was from there.

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My wife was from there. My mother had passed on in 1984 and she was

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in Durban. And my father in law said, Come to marysburg. And

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former startup practice there. So January, 86 I went to marysburg. I

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didn't want to start a practice, but I have no choice. We have lots

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of difficulties in business. There's lots of things that you

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don't want to do, but you have to do that, and sometimes, if you

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look at it spiritually, it works already in the long run that you

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did it. So those are the kind of messages you need to understand.

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As I speak, it's subliminal messages. So I get to marisburg in

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January, in 1986 and a week later, my butcher neighbor tells me I got

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a guy here from an Africana guy from Pretoria. He came to teach

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French, Afrikaner guy teaching French, and then the University of

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Natal. So he said, but he needs a doctor. So he said, My neighbor is

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a doctor, and I met Miller, and we spoke over a period of time. And

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one day, mother tells me, You need to go to Turkey.

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I said, Mother, it's 1986 I haven't seen Cape

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Town yet Turkey.

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He said, something very, very profound. He said, what God wants

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happens? There's a time and a place. The time and a place was

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five years later, I landed up in Turkey. Look at the story short,

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but I met a spiritual teacher. I saw people of all races, all

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religions, all colors, all classes, all countries, even

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people said they don't believe welcome what love in the Muslim

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Sufi place to something new to me. We come from an apartheid past. We

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have prejudice. The Gulf War doesn't have it polarized nations

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and civilizations and cultures and religions. And you're going with a

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stereotype mindset to this place, and you suddenly see no no

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friction, no discord, no fighting. And you think, is this really

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possible in the real world? Can it really happen?

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I'm kept an open mind, and that day, stereotypes left me. And my

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first lesson, even before gift from the givers. Version, you

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don't put people in boxes, white, black, colored, Christian, Jew,

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atheist, no, you don't do that. You treat people on their merits.

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As a human being, you don't run people down for one or two faults.

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You look at the fault, not the person, and don't run the person

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down. And maybe a person may one or two bad qualities does not

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necessarily make the person bad. Intrinsically, we have some people

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who are really bad, but overall, we have other people.

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Not like that. So we can't write a person off because of one or two,

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because you all got bad thoughts. That's good. There's no sayings

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here.

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So I got for pilgrimage the following year, and I say, I want

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to go back to this place if it's right, because even in Islam, we

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have lot of different parts, different parts that we took out,

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and I wasn't sure if this was the right path, because I was never

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taught that. And your teaching is different. Processes are

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different. And I said, if this is the right part, I want to go back

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there, Thursday, sixth, August, 1992 30 years ago, in 18 days

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time, I landed up there in 10pm after a spiritual session called a

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zikr. A zikr, in Sufi tradition, is a recitation of God's names in

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Arabic. So I will say the one and only kind, compassionate,

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merciful, chedisha, yadisha, sustainer, loving, eternal in

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Arabic. And when they finished, the spiritual teacher made eye

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contact with me, and he looked heavenwards at the same time,

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and he spoke in FLUENT Turkish. And I don't understand a word of

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Turkish, but I understood every single word that he said in

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Turkish on that night,

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he said, My son,

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I'm not asking you, I'm instructing you to form an

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organization. The name in Arabic will be wagful Walking translated,

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it means gift of the givers. You will serve all people of all

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races, all religions, all colors, all classes, all cultures, of any

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geographical location and of any political affiliation, but you

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will serve them unconditionally, you will expect nothing in return,

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not even a thank you. In fact, in what you're going to be doing for

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the rest of your life, expect to get a kick up your back. If you

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don't get a kick up your back, regard it as a bonus. Serve people

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what love, kindness, compassion and mercy, and remember, the

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dignity of man is foremost. That's the operative word to save this

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country.

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The dignity of man is foremost. And I'll come back to that. So if

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someone is down in the ground, don't push them down further. Hold

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them, elevate them, wipe the tear of a grieving child, care caress

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the head of an orphan, say words of good counsel to a widow. These

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things are free. They don't cost anything. Clothe the naked, feed

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the hungry and provide water to the thirsty. And in everything

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that you do, be the best at what you do not because of ego, but

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because you're dealing with human life, human emotion, human dignity

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and human suffering. It goes on to say, this is an instruction for

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you for the rest of your life. And remember my son. The most

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important in what I've told you is remember this, then whatever you

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do is done through you and not by you.

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I'm a living witness to them for 30 years that are kind of things

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that you guys think, that I do is not humanly possible. I know

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exactly what to do, and it is shown to me. And that takes me to

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the next point. I told you, I don't, I don't speak Turkish at

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some point, not that same night, at some point, I asked him. I

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said, How is it that when you speak Turkish, I understand, and

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somebody else has fixed Turkish, I don't understand.

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You said, My son, when the hearts connect and the souls connect, the

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words become understandable.

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Asked him, you told me all these things, what am I supposed to do?

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What do you exactly want me to do? I'm a doctor in private practice

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in a place called primas book, and I have three surgeries, so it's

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just after hours,

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weekends, long weekends, public holidays, school holidays, when

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and what you told me. One line

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you will know

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for 30 years, I don't know what to do, how to do, what not to do,

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what to touch, what not to touch, every single aspect I do know. I

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don't know how I know it, but I do know it.

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And the moment I walked out of that place, the inspiration came

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respond to the civil war in Bosnia. And the same month, I took

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in 32 containers of aid into Bosnia, into a war zone. In

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November, another eight containers of winter stuff, and in February,

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93 we started designing the world's first containerized mobile

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hospital, a product of South African technology. We don't

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believe in ourselves. Africa doesn't believe in ourselves,

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ourselves. This was not built in Europe and northern countries. It

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was built in Africa, a world first made in our country and taken to

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Europe. We took it to Bosnia, and when the CNN commentator watched

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the hospital on February 1, 1994 the CNN commentator.

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Said the South African containerized mobile hospital is

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equal to any of the best hospitals in Europe, and that was in 1994

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but what did these three missions Tell me?

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They told me, in essence, that gift of the givers was going to be

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a disaster response agency, and that whatever we do will be built

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around it. We have 21 categories of projects today, not 21

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projects, 21 categories of projects, and each one has

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subcategories, and we run them all consecutively or simultaneously.

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So we needed to evolve as an organization. I'll come to the

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other parts. Just now,

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it was up to 2004

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usual story 10s, blankets, medicines, food, bottled water.

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That's all that we did. And over the years, of course, we ended on

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grocery services, primary healthcare clinics, counseling

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services, support groups, food parcels, feeding schemes and whole

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range of things. 20 wonderful projects over a period of time.

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But 2004 26, December, I was on my way to Cape Town,

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and the tsunami struck, and at that time, we said, we're going to

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respond.

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And how we all respond is the president or the head of state,

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was making announcement, I need help. And the President of of Sri

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Lanka, Chandrika kumata Tuga, at that time, stood up and said, We

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don't know what to do.

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So I send my teams. That's where we're going to we did have medical

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teams then at that day, but we were the first people in the world

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that responded to the crisis in tsunami in Sri Lanka within 2448

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hours. We were the first team that met the president within five

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days. We partnered corporate companies and I come to the roads

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we have to play. We delivered 7,000,001 of eight in five days. I

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flew in planes from India, from Dubai and from Colombo across the

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broken bridges to deliver medicines and supplies inside Sri

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Lanka. And I did it from here, and everything was sent across. But we

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had another country to respond to. In Somalia, North East is is a

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place called half full and that place is in Africa. They were also

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affected by the effect of the tsunami. If Africa doesn't hurt

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Africa, nobody else is going to hurt Africa. Another message, this

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is our continent, and we need to fix it ourselves, right? So we

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landed there, and for the first time, I took a primary health care

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team, a medical team. Eight months later, family in Nigeria, and we

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take a medical team, but not primary health care, only primary

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health care, trauma post property have general surgeons,

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neurosurgeons, orthopedic surgeons, NSF, state assessors,

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witnesses, ICU nurses. And we take a team. When we get there, the

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Pakistani general comes to us and says, Do you mind not going to the

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earthquake?

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So I said, which hospital you going to give me? So he says, you

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understand? I said, Yes, I understand. He said, I'll give you

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the cantonment hospital of Rawalpindi. So my teams asked me,

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Why did you come if you can't go to the earthquake? I said that you

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don't understand what the guy is saying. Everything is destroyed on

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the top, the hospitals, the buildings, the people, they're

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just too much of death there. You can't do anything there. You have

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to. People have to come down. And that's why I asked for hospital so

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but I asked, Have you got helicopters to go and stabilize

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those that are alive and we can bring them down? So I said, my

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friend, all the helicopters are gone on emergency missions. This

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is a huge earthquake. It hit us from Rawalpindi right to the

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Kashmir border, an entire region, we don't have those helicopters.

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Now, in my business, that's why I don't want to be president. We

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don't follow rules.

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So I looked around and I said, American Air Force. Now, pre Gulf

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War, I would have never gone to them. Post Golf is a different

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thing. After I went to Turkey in disaster, you work with everybody

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to get the job done. So I see the American Air Force. There, I go to

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them, I said, I told my the first secretary was from South African

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Embassy was with me. I said, we stay out of this. You guys just

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complicate everything.

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Let me go there. I said, a big black guy. I said, my brother,

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where you from? He says, I'm from America. I said, you black? You're

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not from America.

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I said, You're from Africa. You said, Yes, I'm from Africa, but I

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live in America. Now I knew what I was saying. They said, You I said,

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I'm from South Africa, too, from Africa. What can I do for you? I

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said, Brother, I need your help. I need a helicopter. You need a

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helicopter. My brother take three,

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two Black Hawks and another help in two minutes. Now, imagine if

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the two governments spoke to each other. I'll still be waiting

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for anyways, the helicopters go to the mountain. We walk into the

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Kentucky Hospital of Rawalpindi. We get the smell of gangrene, the

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stench of death. Not enough medical personnel, no

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disinfectant, no nursing teams, no Ivy lines, no food. General, lying

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on the stretcher. Need amputation. Nobody there for them. We call it

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general. We said, What is this? Is this an organized killing field?

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What's happening here? I said, Do you put Will you put?

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To Mother India. He looks at me shocked. The CEO comes and said,

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Don't you know, we decommissioning the hospital journal. So I said,

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You guys are mad. There's nothing wrong with the hospital. So what

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can we do whilst we speaking to them? Northern country

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organizations come across a little confused when they see us. White

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guy with English accent, white guy with African accent, Hindu guy

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kind of Hashem.

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All mixed guys sitting there. Where are you guys from? We said,

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from Africa. Africa all like this, mixed up like this. They look

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stunned. Oh, what did you come for? You guys are always looking

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for three things. You guys always covered a begging bowl. What did

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you come for? I said, my friend, you will eat your words,

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yes. So I gave the Pakistani general the list in 24 hours the

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cantonal hospital, Rawalpindi, that was shutting down, we

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converted it into a 400 bed emergency hospital, 75 operations

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a day, and we saved many lives and those same northern teams, you

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allow them to work with us in hospital. For that, the Pakistan

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President parvasharraf gave us the Presidential Award in 2006 for

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saving the people of Pakistan in the disaster.

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We had everything when I talked to you about the development of our

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organization, I need you to understand how business should

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develop. Also, I should apply your mind laterally. We were doing

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everything, and we had we had trauma counselors after that,

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there was one aspect that was missing. You analyze your business

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all the time. What's wrong when? How would a company of 40 years

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fall apart in three weeks when the covid hit? There's something wrong

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with the way you guys are budgeting. There's something wrong

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with the way you spend there's something wrong the way you keep

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this up. How can a company of 40 years fall down in three weeks? It

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doesn't make any sense to me either. It is a good way to get

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rid of everybody. Directors take the money and you put 1000

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families on the road. That's something that's seriously

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missing, the spirituality in our lives. And I'll talk about that

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also. So any case, we look at the stuff, and I said our weakness as

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a gift of the givers. We don't have a search and rescue team. The

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medical team is second, the search and rescue team is first. So we

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designed that a 2010

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we had opportunity to apply it 12, January. 2010

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earthquake hits 80 massive earthquake kills 250,000 people in

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40 seconds.

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We put a team together, and we fly out via France.

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But I speak to the French Embassy. I'm a French Consulate. They give

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us the visas, and then to Air France, we go via shrinking, via

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Europe. So I tell Air France, will you get my teams into Haiti? They

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said, Yes, we will. I said, you won't? They said, Yes, we will. I

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said, the airport will close. They said, the airport is open. I said,

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you open. I said it will close. They said, Give it to me. I said,

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Give it to me in writing. So they give it to me in writing.

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Whichever gives you in writing, they'll get you to a destination

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anyway. That was my guarantee. So I parked it off. And I thought,

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This guy's made a very big mistake. So in any case, I fought

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the Catholic Society of South Africa. I mean, Peter marisberg. I

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called the guy in Joburg. I said, my friend, I don't know who you

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are. I need the Pope. So that guy gets done. He can't talk for 10

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seconds.

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Why does the Muslim guy want the

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Pope? Why you want the Pope? I said, Are you consider the guy not

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connected? You know, we Muslims, we connected all

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over the world. Embarrassing for the guy. So he says, we can make

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arrangements. So he said, why? I said, I want a Catholic team to

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meet my teams in the Dominican Republic, to take them across into

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80 because they never going to land in 86 o'clock in the morning,

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the guys land. We've got a problem. I said, I know there's no

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flight. Isn't the airport is closed. He said, Yes. I said,

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don't worry. You want a two hour in 12 hours, you on another flight

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to Dominican Republic. Here's the number. Meet you on the other

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side. Catholic religious services, CRS and Caritas were the Catholic

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agencies that deceived my team in Dominican Republic, South African

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team. Welcome, accommodation, water, transport, Visa, everything

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you require. And we take you across into the other side, and

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you will stay in our compound inside Haiti.

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They go across day eight

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on 12/20, January, 2010

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we make world history. My teams call and say, we can hear sounds

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in the rubble, in the collapse Catholic Church. And they're going

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three hours later, and they pull out alive, 64 year old and Azizi

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fractured heat, no oxygen, no water, no food, no support,

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completely covered by the and they pull out alive, eight days later.

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And she says, I love God when still hope in somebody several

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1000 kilometers away. And then she tells, my team, I love you.

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But never before in the history of the world have any team from

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Africa taken anybody out of the rubber alive in an earthquake

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outside the African continent. We were the first to do

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that. Is there hope for us as a continent?

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Now. So I said, grant to get the sugar just now. So he says, it's

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not for me. So I said, fool for your neighbor. No, it's not for

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him either. Then who is the sugar for? He says, For the bees. I'm

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thinking this guy is a good sugar.

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I don't know about that one. This guy's trying to catch me. So I

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said, you know, just give this guy sugar. I don't know why that.

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And that evening, I said, No, the story doesn't sound finished. I

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gotta speak to this guy again. You better come back tomorrow. I need

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to know about the story in the sugar and the bees. It comes back

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to me, and it tells me amazing story.

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He says, you know, the fire was there because of the drought and

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all the fame boss, and everything washed away. And bees could not

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eat the fame boss, it was gone. And we had 300 beehives there, and

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each beehive holds 75,000 to 80,000 bees. We lost 22 million

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bees.

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And he said, the cape honeybee is the most versatile bee in the

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world. It can take. We need to learn from that it can survive any

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type of difficulty. It's very resistant. And when the queen bee

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dies, the other bees, worker bees, are haploid and diploid, they can

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make a new queen bee. That's the type of we be that we have here.

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So I said, Okay, I understand that part. How does a Sugar Fat in all

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this? So he said, When they got no rainbows for other things to eat,

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we give them a nectar, pollen substitute, but that thing is too

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expensive. And the last solution, generic method, we put some sugar

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in the water and we give them

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that. So I said, Okay, I will give you money to regrow the plants,

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but obviously that's not going to happen today. You're going to give

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you nectar, pollen substitute. I'll give you 300 beehives and

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I'll give you sugar right now, that place has become a research

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center. Up till today, they're grooming young people, teaching

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them about bees becoming a research center. And it's still

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running in Isa, and it's expanding.

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And then while it's working there, somebody

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calls me and says, Do you know Sutherland is collapsing. The

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farmers in southern are collapsing. The most important

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Marina sheep in the world. The sheep count was 440,000 it was

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dropping. 400,003

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50,000 300,000 the animals were dying. The economy was dying. And

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they said, Can we get involved? And I said, What do you guys want

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fodder? So we started supplying fodder to the sheep to try to save

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them. Now this is another problem I have. When we said to corporate

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companies, let's get involved in supporting the farmers with

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fodder, they told me, it's not politically correct. That has to

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stop.

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It's not politically correct. So what? Who are the white farmers

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employing white people or black people. We need to change the

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thinking in this country. Or everybody is a human being in this

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country. And we all need to work together. We don't have to have

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this fault, this barriers between us. It's killing the country. We

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need to work together and break that. So we supported it. And in

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june 2018

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not only with the father gone all the balls right out. I sent in my

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teams led by Martin London, and we drilled 238

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balls to save those farms in Sutherland, because that economy

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contributes 18.2% as part of all agriculture to the GDP of our

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country. It creates jobs, it brings in foreign currency. It

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brings in exchange. What happens before? What happened in Ukraine?

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You can't export stuff there anymore. Now, because of the war,

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what happens? Everything collapses, the pears, the plums,

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everything can't go similar effect. Yeah, we could produce but

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we just didn't give you the support. Because of our issues. We

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need to change that. The mindset has to change. And we drilled the

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238 balls. And in January this year, for the first time, the

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sheep come from 31,000 is starting to go upwards again. We put in 45

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pallets nutrition food made with Lucerne, molasses, maize and other

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items, so the sheep can eat undercover, so the animals can go

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and scavenge on them so they can survive. Three days ago, the farm

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couple that's doing this, sub and young call me, and they were

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crying. They set the fuel price, the cost of maize and everything

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has gone up. The farmers can't support themselves. We can't put

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it up. One more cent on that bag, they won't survive. 65% of

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farmers, black and white, are going to collapse because they

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can't afford the bag. I put in another 300,000 and I said, this

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is my side. Give to the people. If you need more, call Megan. I'll

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give you another 300,000 man, we have to save the farmer. We have

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to save the sheep. We have to save agriculture, because that

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contributes to all of us together, to benefit in this country. And so

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we went on to that project, and they 2018 we have Day Zero in Cape

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Town, brought in containers and all these things, I'm telling you,

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it shows the generosity of our society, the goodness of our

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people to work together, which by ship containers came from Durban,

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and by road transport, we brought 300 containers of water to Cape

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Town. We drilled bohots Inside and outside Cape Town. The people in

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Cape Town Think Western Cape is Cape Town. Western Cape is not

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Cape Town. There's areas outside Cape where there's a lot of people

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in the rural areas. There was not.

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Be forgotten, you know, and that's what happened. So we supported

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that. 2019

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came the call from Makanda. There's no water, and we got

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involved in Makanda, and they said, municipality to us will be

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there for four days. We there for three years already.

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But we, we knew we going to have that problem with grand 15 balls.

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We went to the crafting net. I'm I'm fast forwarding him 2020 and

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2019 and this is where we coming up to the important things. Now,

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2019 and 2018 I'm telling my medical teams, we world class.

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When we all over the world, people can understand our skill at which

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we operate and how we work. We need to get involved in the

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hospitals locally. They said, Oh, never going to happen it's the

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bureaucracy and the red tape will kill us. It's a crime to come to

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help in government, public hospitals. You can't even do

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anything for free, because people can't make a back end. You can't

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do things like that. It's not going to work. So I said, We gotta

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find a way. I told you I specialize in breaking rules. So

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2020

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the covid came, right? Yes, it came with this crisis, but I

00:31:01 --> 00:31:05

forgot the opportunity. All the hospitals started calling

00:31:05 --> 00:31:09

baradwanas, Charlotte mckeike, Helen, Joseph Ray, mamosa, George

00:31:09 --> 00:31:13

bukari, Shawna, general and all over the country, 210 hospitals

00:31:13 --> 00:31:17

were in trouble because some was having fun with our PPE money, 14

00:31:17 --> 00:31:20

point 7 billion rand. So we said, we going to get involved, and we

00:31:20 --> 00:31:24

started delivering. After two weeks, I get a call from somebody

00:31:24 --> 00:31:27

in gauteng health. Some guy got too clever, and he said, you know,

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you need an MOU and you want to give a letter, and you got to do

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this. I said, my friend, I don't know such thing. This is a

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disaster. You wanted, yes or no, you want 10 seconds.

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He said, My Friend, just do what you have to do.

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210 hospitals is relevant up till today, no letter, no request,

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nothing writing, no MOU It's about saving South African lives. I'm

00:31:51 --> 00:31:55

just being to the point everybody was scared, and I'm quite blunt

00:31:55 --> 00:31:58

about it. The government is to understand this country does not

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belong to them. This country belongs to me and to 65 million

00:32:03 --> 00:32:06

individuals. And when we take ownership of the country, then we

00:32:06 --> 00:32:09

need to fix it ourselves. We can't sit back and say, Oh, we pay rates

00:32:09 --> 00:32:13

and we pay this and that, because to be fair to government, 7

00:32:13 --> 00:32:16

million people's taxes. Can't look after 65 million people. It's

00:32:16 --> 00:32:19

impossible. If you put the German government here, or the American

00:32:19 --> 00:32:21

government here, or the Australian on the Canadians, they have the

00:32:21 --> 00:32:25

same problem. You can't change the fact that 7 million people taxes

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can't look after 65 million people. Yes, they must take

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responsibility for state capture, for wasting money, for pp, money

00:32:31 --> 00:32:34

disappearing, for having a friend, giving the cat the contract,

00:32:34 --> 00:32:36

giving the dog, the contract, giving the grandfather the

00:32:36 --> 00:32:39

contract. They must take responsibility for that and giving

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context to people who don't know what the * they're doing, that

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can't happen. They take responsibility for that. But while

00:32:44 --> 00:32:48

saying that everybody in government is not bad, there's a

00:32:48 --> 00:32:51

lot of good people in government lie. There's a lot good of people

00:32:51 --> 00:32:54

in *. There's bad people in the corporates too. There's good bad

00:32:54 --> 00:32:57

people in religious services too. There's bad people in the law

00:32:57 --> 00:33:00

effect system. There's bad people in the medical system. There's bad

00:33:00 --> 00:33:04

people in NGOs. We have bad people everywhere. But we have people

00:33:04 --> 00:33:07

well, intrinsically, very bad. We have people with bad habits, as

00:33:07 --> 00:33:10

explained to you before. So we need to hold the hands of the good

00:33:10 --> 00:33:14

people in government and take them forward, because a lot of them do

00:33:14 --> 00:33:18

want the help. And they tell you, quietly, I don't know what to do.

00:33:18 --> 00:33:21

They tell you on the side, please, can you help? They have the heart

00:33:21 --> 00:33:24

of the country in the you know they care for the country, and

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that's why it gives me so much of hope today at the ball. Elizabeth

00:33:27 --> 00:33:30

Duncan, it wasn't an official Mandela day board what you already

00:33:30 --> 00:33:33

put it a few weeks ago, but to the credit of the Minister of Water

00:33:33 --> 00:33:37

and Sanitation, senso mchunu, Oscar M Abu yada, the premier the

00:33:37 --> 00:33:41

Embassy of finance, came and the DG of water and sanitation, the

00:33:41 --> 00:33:45

mayor of the city, the deputy mayor, and other people came to

00:33:45 --> 00:33:48

acknowledge and to thank for putting the borehole not only

00:33:48 --> 00:33:51

Elizabeth Duncan, but everything that we've done for the city. Now

00:33:51 --> 00:33:54

that takes some kind of humility and the fact that you can do that.

00:33:54 --> 00:33:57

And look, I'm very happy with government. They said, Tell me,

00:33:57 --> 00:34:00

I'm brutal with them. That's the reality. But in the day, we fight,

00:34:00 --> 00:34:03

and in the night, we friends, because there's a lot of good

00:34:03 --> 00:34:06

people. They can do a lot of good things, and we need to understand

00:34:06 --> 00:34:10

that, but they need to understand also that they can't do it alone.

00:34:10 --> 00:34:14

That's hard handed to it. It's changing. A lot of that is

00:34:14 --> 00:34:17

changing, where the President and ministers are saying, we need the

00:34:17 --> 00:34:20

help of private society, we need the help of private sector, but

00:34:20 --> 00:34:23

they need to open those channels. It's opening slowly, but it will

00:34:23 --> 00:34:26

happen. We have no choice. We have to make it work, and that's why it

00:34:26 --> 00:34:28

gives me so much of hope. So we delivered

00:34:30 --> 00:34:33

CPF machines, and this is the government thing. And then I go to

00:34:33 --> 00:34:33

the last part

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in November of 2020

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I get a message from Professor Justin join us from Rhodes

00:34:40 --> 00:34:43

University. He says, Doctor Sullivan, we need your help. So I

00:34:43 --> 00:34:46

said, Professor, what's the problem? You said? Ibrahim Patel,

00:34:46 --> 00:34:50

Minister of Trade and Industry, asked civil society and the

00:34:50 --> 00:34:53

engineers from the SK telescope and other engineers to design the

00:34:53 --> 00:34:56

machine for oxygen delivery, because all the machines from

00:34:56 --> 00:34:59

ventilators of China were taken up by China or Europe or America. And

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we go.

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Compete with our brands, the dollars and euros, euros were too

00:35:02 --> 00:35:06

strong, so we couldn't get the ventilators. I wasn't interested

00:35:06 --> 00:35:08

in ventilators because I know they don't save lives. You know, very

00:35:08 --> 00:35:12

few ventilators actually work save lives, but you know, The Mentalist

00:35:12 --> 00:35:17

later stage, you're out 5% or 6% most cases, 0% ladies, it didn't

00:35:17 --> 00:35:20

work. So I said, Professor, I'm not really interested. And then I

00:35:20 --> 00:35:24

get to tigerbak Hospital in the first week of December, and the

00:35:24 --> 00:35:27

doctors are telling me we got a shortage of oxygen delivery

00:35:27 --> 00:35:29

devices. People are dropping dead in the car park. They're dropping

00:35:29 --> 00:35:32

dead in the cars. They're dropping dead in the casualty. They're

00:35:32 --> 00:35:34

dropping dead at home. Eastern Cape, the court started coming

00:35:34 --> 00:35:36

from all hospitals. Same message, they're dropping dead. We need

00:35:36 --> 00:35:40

oxygen delivery devices. So I go back to email, oops, not

00:35:40 --> 00:35:44

ventilator. Secret machine. Something different. So I called

00:35:44 --> 00:35:47

Professor Jonas. I said, Where's the machine? He said, It's Yes. So

00:35:47 --> 00:35:51

I said, What's the problem? He said, Ibrahim Patel asked us to do

00:35:51 --> 00:35:54

it. We formed the National later group. We've designed the model,

00:35:55 --> 00:35:58

because that's government agency CSI, a government agency

00:35:58 --> 00:36:01

manufactured it. Sapra, a government agency authorized it

00:36:01 --> 00:36:05

for use for covid in South Africa. Saw the directory fund out of

00:36:05 --> 00:36:08

government, paid two 50 million Rand for it, for 20,000 machines,

00:36:08 --> 00:36:11

good price. So I said, where's the problem? The problem is that you

00:36:11 --> 00:36:14

can't deliver it to the government hospitals. I said, something the

00:36:14 --> 00:36:17

government made can't get into government hospital does not make

00:36:17 --> 00:36:20

any sense to me. They said, We being blocked. I said, Where's the

00:36:20 --> 00:36:24

machines? They said they kept on Acacia medical I said, Send him. I

00:36:24 --> 00:36:26

first gave the first law to Tiger book hospital. What in one hour,

00:36:26 --> 00:36:29

they said saving lives. Gave it to Kyle issue. I said, let me get

00:36:29 --> 00:36:32

another perspective. Kylie Cha said, we just save four patients

00:36:32 --> 00:36:35

now lives now under the CEO, also Eastern Cape hospitals. Do you

00:36:35 --> 00:36:40

want it? Please bring it. My teams, Corinne Ali and the teams

00:36:40 --> 00:36:44

in Eastern Cape, we delivered all the trucks to Eastern Cape in 48

00:36:44 --> 00:36:49

hours, we delivered 900 machines to 40 hospitals. Again, wife got

00:36:49 --> 00:36:53

hope, not the nurse or the junior staff, the CEO of the hospitals

00:36:53 --> 00:36:57

waiting 11 o'clock at night to receive the machine to put it on

00:36:57 --> 00:37:01

the patient, to save lives. That Monday, the first CEO called us to

00:37:01 --> 00:37:05

some kala hospital. He said, My Friend, every weekend, we get

00:37:05 --> 00:37:09

together on a Monday and we stop and we cry because we it's more,

00:37:09 --> 00:37:12

but for us, we count on the number of people that died for the first

00:37:12 --> 00:37:16

time in covid. Nobody died this weekend. That machine saved

00:37:16 --> 00:37:17

everybody's life.

00:37:18 --> 00:37:21

It shows government cannot be allowed to do what is not correct.

00:37:22 --> 00:37:26

So we put that in, and we fought it, and let me get to the unrest.

00:37:26 --> 00:37:30

And when the unrest came, we were leaderless. Nobody stood up,

00:37:30 --> 00:37:33

nobody said anything. The police service was ineffective. The state

00:37:33 --> 00:37:37

is currently ineffective. And people were scared. But it was not

00:37:37 --> 00:37:41

an insurrection. This was not an insurrection. Get it right. In

00:37:41 --> 00:37:45

fact, if anything gave me hope was that event. It showed that South

00:37:45 --> 00:37:47

Africa will not allow this thing to happen. In our country, eight

00:37:47 --> 00:37:50

provinces said we're not going to allow this to happen. The taxi

00:37:50 --> 00:37:53

drivers got up and said, We're not going to allow this to happen. And

00:37:53 --> 00:37:57

civil society got up and said, We will defend our country. All races

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stood together. But look at the people who went took to the malls.

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The real people who did this are the traitors, the anti patriots,

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who mobilized people to go and do things which people were not keen

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to do. Told them, go to a mall. A two year old child. What threat is

00:38:12 --> 00:38:15

he to the country? Takes a pair of shoes, an old lady in a walking

00:38:15 --> 00:38:18

stick. Nobody at stones, nobody had guns, nobody had knives. They

00:38:18 --> 00:38:21

were just taken to the malls and instigated to go and take the

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malls students were organized in biriya on busses came and go to

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West Street and take the expensive stuff from the shops. What kind of

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mortality are we teaching them? What kind of ethics are we giving

00:38:31 --> 00:38:34

the nation? Is it okay to do the wrong thing and there was remorse?

00:38:34 --> 00:38:39

Yes, afterwards and nobody was a threat. The voice mail messages,

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the social media posts were making people scared. There was no

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substance in that, because in an insurrection, you attacked the

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army, the military, the parliament and the Union Buildings, not a

00:38:50 --> 00:38:51

shopping mall, makes no sense.

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So it was all misunderstood. Three days later, all the people who are

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tents were standing the line together in KZN, and you would

00:39:04 --> 00:39:07

swear that nothing happened. Everybody was giving each other

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bread and water and goods and selling together as one nation.

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When I saw that, I saw great hope for this country and the floods,

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the last point when the floods came on, 11th April, the first

00:39:20 --> 00:39:24

guys who called us were not people that we are sinking and we're

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drowning and we need help. The first guys that called right up

00:39:27 --> 00:39:29

the midnight was corporate South Africa.

00:39:30 --> 00:39:35

What can we do? How can we help? What do you need? And that change

00:39:35 --> 00:39:38

has come from the time of the covid. South African corporates

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are becoming more human oriented. That getting more interested in

00:39:42 --> 00:39:45

the lives of the people, because before you guys had the CSI

00:39:45 --> 00:39:48

division, they don't know what the * is going on. Okay, you would

00:39:48 --> 00:39:54

just say 90% be black, CP or black text certificate, get an article

00:39:54 --> 00:39:58

in Excel paper, get something original. Go up, you know, VW and

00:39:58 --> 00:39:59

FnB and all.

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Cup is a very good people and it is some good thing for our

00:40:02 --> 00:40:05

country. We get some good points there gotta stop. You have to know

00:40:05 --> 00:40:08

what they are you doing? And when the CEOs got involved, they

00:40:08 --> 00:40:12

started changing things around. What do you need? This country

00:40:12 --> 00:40:16

needs infrastructure, needs humanity and needs a dignity.

00:40:16 --> 00:40:19

People are not standing up because they're hungry, because if that's

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the case, those problems have burned long time ago. Eastern

00:40:23 --> 00:40:25

Cape, the children are dying of malnutrition every single day in

00:40:25 --> 00:40:26

this province. In 2003

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2002 when we had the World Summit on Sustainable Development in

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South Africa in Nazareth, 163 kids died in Eastern Cape during that

00:40:36 --> 00:40:42

summit. So that hunger is here for a long time. Oh, as a nation, we

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need to invest in the lives of our people, and once we do that,

00:40:46 --> 00:40:49

everything will grow together. We have to hold the hand of

00:40:49 --> 00:40:52

government, but we have to become human in our approach fixed. Why

00:40:52 --> 00:40:55

was a child die falling down a toilet? They have no proper

00:40:55 --> 00:40:59

classrooms in tomorrow. We starting in pretty matters work in

00:40:59 --> 00:41:03

a school called TPA. 173 kids got learning disorders. How can a

00:41:03 --> 00:41:06

teacher in a class with 40 kids samples for others? Where's the

00:41:06 --> 00:41:09

opportunity? Where's the chance for them to do something we invest

00:41:09 --> 00:41:11

in we're taking over the whole center. We're putting in teachers

00:41:11 --> 00:41:14

at our cost Learning Center. And this is what we need from

00:41:14 --> 00:41:17

corporate South Africa, fixed hospitals, fix the schools, fix

00:41:17 --> 00:41:20

the toilets, and let's take people who got skills, put in more OTS in

00:41:20 --> 00:41:23

hospital, and tell government, you got three years. Got three years.

00:41:23 --> 00:41:26

Get your taxes right, get your finances right. We're going to run

00:41:26 --> 00:41:28

the system for three years. After three years to take over, we'll

00:41:28 --> 00:41:31

put the teachers, we'll put the doctors, we'll put the nurses,

00:41:31 --> 00:41:33

we'll put the OT we'll put the dieticians. We'll put the skill

00:41:33 --> 00:41:37

people. And let's put people in hospital in way they require. This

00:41:37 --> 00:41:40

country needs skills, and you need experience, and a lot of that is

00:41:40 --> 00:41:42

gone. People don't know what to do. 267

00:41:43 --> 00:41:47

municipalities. We need 10 good people, an auditor, an engineer, a

00:41:47 --> 00:41:51

technical guy, a PR person, and people who can do the job. We do

00:41:51 --> 00:41:55

that. We fixed the service delivery, we fixed the country. We

00:41:55 --> 00:41:57

fixed everything else. We got the skills. We can go into war zone.

00:41:57 --> 00:42:00

We can go into resources. We can fix it. We got the people,

00:42:00 --> 00:42:03

doctors, already tired. We ask you to come back and have law schools,

00:42:03 --> 00:42:06

teachers already tired. Kids give them an opportunity. Engineers, we

00:42:06 --> 00:42:09

want you back. Water. Guys, we want you back. Business guys, we

00:42:09 --> 00:42:13

want you back. The country does not belong to the government. It

00:42:13 --> 00:42:16

belongs to you and me, and it belongs to you and me. We take

00:42:16 --> 00:42:20

responsibility of saving our country ourselves. I've seen war

00:42:20 --> 00:42:23

zones. I've seen the people who drove the recovery in war zones

00:42:23 --> 00:42:26

were business people. Business carried on when the war was taking

00:42:26 --> 00:42:29

place and people were dying. The guys that saved the country were

00:42:29 --> 00:42:32

business people. Thank you very much for all the support you guys

00:42:32 --> 00:42:35

have given for change your mindset. We need to build this

00:42:35 --> 00:42:38

country black, white, Indian and color together, everybody in a

00:42:38 --> 00:42:42

human compassion way. And we can do it. It's not impossible. We can

00:42:42 --> 00:42:45

save the country discipline time. Yes, load sharing happens, but it

00:42:45 --> 00:42:48

hasn't collapsed. There are countries far worse than us where

00:42:48 --> 00:42:51

they have only 7% electricity. You don't got serious problems now

00:42:51 --> 00:42:54

with the war in Ukraine, their their health systems are

00:42:54 --> 00:42:57

collapsing, their water systems are collapsing, the energy systems

00:42:57 --> 00:43:00

are collapsing. Everybody come back to South Africa. This is a

00:43:00 --> 00:43:00

great country.

00:43:16 --> 00:43:20

Thank you. That was very, very inspiring. I think it moved

00:43:20 --> 00:43:23

everybody that just had a gift to the givers certainly are the Dream

00:43:23 --> 00:43:26

Team. And you'll see on my left here, there's some books that the

00:43:26 --> 00:43:28

give to the givers has brought with them. I.

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