Imtiaz Sooliman – House Call part 24 Gift of the Givers

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The speakers discuss their involvement in various disaster management projects, including a primary healthcare program, hospital clinic, and special nutrition supplement. They also mention their involvement in a wheelchair distribution project and a food parcel program for children in physical conditions. The speakers discuss a nutrition supplement program for energy and iron for energy and iron for energy and iron for energy and iron for energy and iron for energy and iron for energy, as well as a traditional dish called "soya." They also mention a doctor's name and a peanut butter supplement, which is a meal that works well in many conditions and is a good source of energy for many people. The speakers discuss a new supplement called Charity that works well in many conditions and is a good source of energy for many people.

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			Because
		
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			one gift of the
		
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			givers foundation now we are still
talking to us about the
		
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			relationship with government as
part of international disaster
		
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			response. It's very good to have
relationship with government. It
		
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			breaks diplomatic red tape. So my
relationship with our government,
		
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			what all the chairs again, Before
the ANC time? What ANC time? What
		
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			changes in the President's made no
difference to me. My aims to get
		
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			the job done. So it was the
government of the day. I work with
		
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			them, and my relationship was with
foreign affairs, which is now
		
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			international relations, because
in most cases, disasters outside
		
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			the intervention from foreign
affairs. The advantage of that
		
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			relationship is that it clears
huge ambassadors use embassies or
		
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			other parts of the world, and when
you walk into a country, in most
		
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			cases, the door just opens up and
he walks straight through, because
		
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			you have the government on your
side. So diplomatic passport, but
		
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			government representatives
sometimes travel with me as part
		
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			of the mission, so you know, and
the embassy meets you, the
		
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			ambassador meets you. And really,
there are difficulties, as in any
		
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			disaster response, but by far and
large, we have been well received
		
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			everywhere in the world, because
our government has done everything
		
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			possible to facilitate, as we sort
of represent South Africa when we
		
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			go across anyway in the world. So
your general motto is to relieve
		
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			physical distress, emotional
distress, and to improve the lives
		
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			of mankind. Now disaster
management, or disaster seems to
		
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			be central to this process. But
what are some of the other things
		
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			that the organization does outside
disaster management or disasters
		
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			we have 22 projects all together.
We started off as a disaster
		
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			response agency. After that, we
designed container clinics. We
		
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			said, if we can build a hospital
in containers and take it 1000s of
		
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			kilometers away, we can do
container clinics, because that
		
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			time, kwasama, the now Home
Minister, affairs minister, came
		
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			up with this idea of, remember, of
primary healthcare. Primary
		
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			Healthcare 94 became a big
buzzword in the medical circles.
		
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			So we said together, and it's
going to become a big buzzword
		
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			again. Now, yeah, going forward,
in preparation for the NHI In
		
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			fact, it's central to the National
Health Insurance also is going to
		
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			be primary healthcare, because
there have been complaints and
		
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			concerns that the South African
medical system is more curative
		
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			and you can start to become
primary healthcare and
		
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			preventative base will do a lot to
alleviate the problem that we have
		
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			exactly. So we designed a
container clinic, and we started
		
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			putting it in rural areas in South
Africa. We have 20 such clinics in
		
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			the country. That was the second
project, and there we partnered
		
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			government again, because we said,
in terms of running, it's better
		
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			to run, be run by government,
because as the protocols change,
		
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			they can implement the protocols
in the system. So it's easier for
		
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			them just to manage the whole
program, which we gave them. But
		
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			in between, as an one of our other
projects, we supply medical
		
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			facilities, we supply ultrasound
machines, we give medicines, you
		
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			know, that kind of stuff to
hospitals. So a medical project is
		
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			the third thing is another project
after clinics. There's a hospital
		
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			called Sara Fox in Cape Town where
there's abandoned children
		
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			recuperating children that come
from Red Cross and other
		
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			hospitals. And we fund it every
month in terms of the food
		
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			supplies, we renovated parts of
the hospital, put in new painted
		
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			the whole hospital, put in beds,
linen supply was required on a
		
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			monthly basis. And we want to
expand that project. It's only one
		
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			and a half year old. So that's
something else that we do. Then
		
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			closer to home here Soweto, the
Adelaide Tambo School for the
		
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			physically challenged, the
physically challenged children in
		
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			Soweto, we've become a partner in
that school again, helping
		
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			refurbishing. We made arrangements
for lotto to put a major swimming
		
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			pool in the in the in the school
itself. Then special kind of
		
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			equipment for those kind of kids
to play with. We put that in. We
		
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			look at putting extra classrooms
and extra structures. We've
		
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			already given the plans in. Takes
a long time for the plans to come
		
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			out. Special type of playgrounds
for the last two years, the
		
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			special Paralympic sports where
these kids are involved in they
		
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			went to PE we funded the whole
event. Those are the kind of
		
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			things that we do. Then another
thing related to physically
		
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			challenged people is a wheelchair
distribution. We do that in a big
		
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			way also. So like this, there's
many other projects. We design a
		
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			special nutrition supplement, you
know, which we use also for people
		
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			in different types of conditions.
We designed that.
		
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			We got samples here. So is this
the busses of product? There's a
		
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			history
		
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			behind this product
		
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			in 2003
		
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			2002
		
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			we were at NASDAQ, you know, the
world's Summit on Sustainable
		
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			Development. I see, whilst we were
there in September, there was a
		
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			write up in the front page of The
Sunday Times to say that 167
		
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			children died out of starvation in
the Eastern Cape. We were the only
		
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			agency that responded and took in
lots of food parcels. We then met
		
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			the then Minister Zola skivia of
social development. He said, I
		
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			love what you do. I love what you
are doing and what you've done
		
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			here. He came to me afterwards. He
said.
		
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			Can you work with government and
help us design a program? How to
		
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			spend 400 million Rand? I said,
Fine. I put nine points together
		
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			game the program. Few months
later, he came back to me. He
		
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			said, I love the food parcel
program. He said, Can you run,
		
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			design a food parcel program and
run it? I said, not a problem. He
		
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			said, but there's only one problem
you have to tender. Government.
		
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			Rules are, everybody has to
tender. So I said, Minister,
		
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			advice is free. I don't tender.
I'm not a business. I'm an NGO. I
		
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			will not tender. Time went on. It
went on tenders. They called me
		
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			five times. I refused all five
times.
		
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			Seven provinces were
		
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			given tenders, big companies.
Seven provinces got it February,
		
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			2003 they came back to me. They
said, please? I said, no, they
		
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			called me a week later. They said,
You have been appointed for KZN
		
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			and Eastern Cape. We went to
Treasury, we went to cabinet, we
		
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			went to Parliament. We waived all
tender roles. We appointed you,
		
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			and we give you the two most
complicated provinces in this
		
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			country, Eastern Cape and KZN. You
design a program. We give you 60
		
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			million Rand to do the food parcel
and to roll it out. I said, Mr.
		
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			Minister, money up front, I'm not
the business. I'm an NGO. And they
		
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			agreed, given up front. This is
how this product was born. I see
		
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			because while giving out branded
products, Victor, we found that
		
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			people were they were not hungry
anymore, but there was no
		
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			difference in the medical
condition. If they had no loss of
		
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			weight, they still had loss of
weight. That bad skin, that's
		
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			still bad skin, to any medical
condition, nothing happened. So
		
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			they were not hungry anymore, but
they were still showing the
		
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			repercussions of malnutrition one
form or another. And I said, No, I
		
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			was feeling bad, because I'm the
one who designed this program, and
		
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			I'm thinking, I put all this stuff
in the mind. Nothing happened. Any
		
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			case, I put it at the back of my
head, 2004 I February, write up by
		
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			the UN and different write ups to
say the biggest problem in Africa
		
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			is lack of iron, iodine, folic
acid, protein, you know, and
		
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			certain micronutrients still back
of bed. I visited Malawi, we have
		
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			an office in 2004
		
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			April. I went there for fertilizer
and garden projects in agriculture
		
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			development, because I met
somebody from Malawi in 2002 at my
		
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			stand. So I went to the company,
thinking, I'm going to learn about
		
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			fertilizer and seed roll out,
which they do in Malawi. The last
		
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			day of second, last day of my
visit. He takes me to his factory,
		
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			and I get the smell of food. I
said, oh, where's the fertilizer
		
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			smell? You said, We don't only do
fertilizer. We do food also. We
		
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			were the first company that
extruded soya for the World Food
		
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			Program when Mozambique and
refugees came into Malawi for
		
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			seven years, we ran the program
for 24 hours a day. I said, You
		
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			never told me that about food. You
said, yes,
		
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			my spiritual teacher told me, my
son, remember in life that
		
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			whatever you do is done not it's
not done by you. It's done through
		
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			you. You will be shown you will be
given direction, but everything
		
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			will be done through you. You do
nothing. So don't sit on your
		
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			faith ego and said, I did it
because you do nothing. So that is
		
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			God who is in charge, God. And
this is a classical example,
		
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			Victor. I got up on Friday morning
the 16th of ninth of April, you
		
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			know, sorry, 16th of April. That
morning before I left Malawi, and
		
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			it came to me, my food parcel made
no impact on the people I'm here
		
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			in this company that does food
program. I need a formula, and in
		
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			my head, a formula came in the
morning. I'm not a dietitian. I
		
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			didn't go for nutrition lectures
to medical school. Most of the
		
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			time I wasn't even there. My
professor said, you passed by
		
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			correspondence, I remember, and
this formula
		
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			came Malawi's got the best ground
nuts, one of the best ground nuts
		
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			in the world, the best aflatoxin.
Let's take it. What's got soya?
		
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			What's got protein and essential
amino acids, is soya, but soya
		
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			don't have a good taste. Combine
the ground nuts and soya together
		
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			and put in a vanilla flavoring,
and put in the a pre mix that has
		
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			all these other micronutrients,
copper, magnesium, selenium, you
		
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			know, antioxidants, put it
together, and we started fidgeting
		
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			with it, and eventually we came up
with a product that works for
		
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			twofold. It has no preservatives.
And we said, we'll make it ready
		
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			to eat. You open the bottle and
you eat. No cooking, no heating,
		
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			no refrigeration, you just eat.
It. Perfect for disasters. When
		
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			you come into a prom where there's
water all over, like in Pakistan.
		
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			Now we're using it in Pakistan
also where you can't get you can't
		
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			throw a primer stove, you can't
throw rice, you can't throw other
		
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			kind of stuff. You have to put a
whole lot of ingredients together.
		
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			This thing is energy dense and
nutrient dense, meaning that one
		
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			spoon has more potency than whole
plate of food, and you don't do it
		
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			for profit. No, this is for a
given out for free. For when you
		
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			return, we continue our very, very
interesting and untold story of
		
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			Doctor imjea Suleman, Chairperson
of the gift of the givers, you
		
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			stay with us.
		
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			You.
		
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			Welcome back. You're watching
politics house call here on SABC
		
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			two, and today we're having a one
on one discussion with the doctor,
		
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			mts sudeman, Chairperson of the
gift of the givers. Now you're
		
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			still telling us about this
brilliant product. What is it? I
		
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			said it looks like peanut butter
to me. What is it? Basically, it's
		
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			a paste. Yeah, it's a paste. It's
a paste. So you put it on red, you
		
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			put it on bread. You can, I said
it's ready to eat. The best way to
		
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			eat it the catcher is you got to
stir it well, because there's no
		
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			preservatives. The oil set of
settles at the top from which your
		
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			energy comes. So you need to stir
it well. But you can eat it. It
		
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			tastes like an Indian sweet meat.
Okay? Patients in hospital love
		
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			it. You know, normal people love
it. Sick people love it. Okay?
		
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			It's got a very pleasant taste, it
has a good smell, a lovely taste,
		
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			and, you know, it's very
palatable, and it's very high in
		
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			energy, as I said, energy dense
and nutrient dense. You've got the
		
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			patent on it. Well, we haven't put
a patent on it because we don't
		
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			mind if other people do something
similar, because we want people to
		
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			benefit from the product.
Absolutely. In any case, we
		
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			started using it for disasters. In
the process, we found it has
		
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			magnificent results in cases where
people are debilitated, so in TB,
		
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			in HIV, in AIDS, in cancers. In
other conditions, it's not a cure.
		
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			People must understand this is not
a cure. This is a supplement. It's
		
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			a food item that works
exceptionally well in many
		
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			conditions. Many hospitals in
South Africa are using it. You
		
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			know, we've used it in Haiti, in
Gaza, in Niger, where there was a
		
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			severe famine, in Somalia, in
Sudan, in Pakistan, in South
		
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			Africa, Malawi, risotto and
Botswana, not huge quantities, but
		
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			people are seeing the value of
which maybe Charity begins at
		
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			home, do you spend most of your
resources, most of your time, on
		
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			South African projects, than you
do on continental and
		
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			international projects? Or you
just respond on demand? It's not
		
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			necessarily that you are first a
South African entity that might
		
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			have to look at other countries if
you've done justice to the South
		
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			African needs.
		
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			Internationally, our projects are
disaster response, mainly, okay,
		
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			21 other projects take place in
South Africa. I see the span is
		
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			more than 70% 70 to 75% in South
Africa, and other 25% depending if
		
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			there is a disaster, there may be
three disasters in one year, like
		
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			what happened to the Pakistan
earthquake. The tsunami finished.
		
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			Then came Nigeria famine, and then
came to Pakistan, earthquake, that
		
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			can happen, but sometimes they may
be no disaster. When I say no
		
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			disaster, nothing major that needs
to be responded to, because then
		
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			again, we can talk about it as if
there's times, in this case, you
		
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			do some of your cold projects, you
know, but those projects in South
		
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			Africa continue all the time.
We've got a counseling service,
		
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			marital problems, abuse, you know,
HIV, AIDS counseling and face to
		
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			face that runs 24/7 the whole
year. Then we have life skills
		
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			programs in school. Our bursary
and scholarship program started
		
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			off in 97 20,000 Rand a year. For
the first year, it's now reached 3
		
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			million. And we partnered method
University, simply because of
		
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			this, for development in Africa,
where we said, let's support
		
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			science and agriculture. Lots of
young people say today, science
		
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			and agriculture is for the
farmers. It's for the Boro people,
		
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			the South Africans. It's not for
all of South Africa. Africa is
		
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			dependent on agriculture. The
Ministry of Economy in Africa is
		
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			agriculture. We need to take the
students and put them back there.
		
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			So I went to the University. I
said, I'll give you a grant for
		
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			1.3 million. Use the money to do
marketing to the schools and tell
		
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			us kids to come. They said, in the
first year, we may not get good
		
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			students. I said, I understand
that a business doesn't make money
		
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			in the first year. It takes five
to six years before it makes
		
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			money. So I said, get me any
students. Just bring the students
		
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			and bring them inside. You have
the criteria. You choose them.
		
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			They said, We got kids with 50%
55% and not so many. I said, it
		
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			doesn't matter. I'll find those
kids all the way to qualification.
		
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			I said, in the second year, we'll
do a little better. In second
		
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			year, kids put better symbols
came. In the third year, they got
		
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			kids with a grades aggregates, and
they said, now we're getting
		
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			oversubscribed. And people started
getting, you know, all
		
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			distinctions in the course, and
they're getting shot by different
		
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			parts of industry. We need to
support science and agriculture.
		
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			Agriculture is very important for
Africa. And what I like about that
		
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			university in marysburg, it got
like a mini NEPAD there. In those
		
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			classes, there are students from
all over Africa. In some
		
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			departments, there are 39 PhD
students. They're coming with the
		
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			knowledge of what's happening in
Rwanda, in DRC, in Kenya and
		
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			Uganda. Now, can you imagine if
you take all the resource
		
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			properly, when you say, okay, in
Uganda, this works that doesn't
		
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			work. In Kenya, this works that
doesn't work, and you take all
		
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			that knowledge together and don't
leave it in the library, take it
		
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			and implement it. Can you imagine
what a powerhouse Africa will
		
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			become? And that's something that
very rural development and poverty
		
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			relief are some of those things
that you concentrate on in South
		
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			Africa. Does it help, or is it an
advantage that you're a medical
		
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			doctor running this organization?
It helps a * of a lot. It helps
		
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			a * of a lot. Because, for
example, the hospital that we
		
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			designed, we were instrumental in
designing a hospital without
		
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			medical knowledge. You couldn't do
that this supplement. It was
		
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			inspired.