Imtiaz Sooliman – Closing keynote at Trialogue Business in Society Conference 2024

Imtiaz Sooliman
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The speakers discuss the need for South African society to remove ego and work together to improve the people of their area, including the impact of drought and poor farming conditions. They also emphasize the importance of supporting farmers, including using sugar and sugar weight to help bees and producing more sugar to help animals. The challenges faced by healthcare systems, including severe mental health challenges and the need for people to make money, are discussed, along with the need for people to make money and not spend it on health and education. A commitment for four years to become a consultant and teachers with special education needs is also emphasized.

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			All they said is, tell us what to
do. The people who directed them
		
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			were two women who don't ever have
a university degree,
		
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			and those people followed
instructions to show what South
		
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			Africans can do together.
		
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			The NGO sector, the religious
sector, came and said, we can
		
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			help. And within a short space of
time, 20,000 families were
		
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			assisted with food parcels,
hygiene packs, sanitary pads,
		
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			diapers and all those kind of
items. Then people came and said,
		
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			What about the cat and the dog? So
I said, What about the cat and the
		
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			dog?
		
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			They said, whilst you're feeding
the people, the cats and the dogs
		
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			have no food.
		
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			Corporate, country company
responded, and within few hours,
		
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			we have 30 tons of pet food. The
cats and the dogs had a party.
		
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			They had nurse in that kind of cat
food and dog food before
		
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			and then some there was another
request. What about the animals?
		
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			They said, You know why the fire
was so big? There was a drought in
		
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			Nizam. So the sheep, the dog, the
horse, the cow, the pig, all were
		
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			hungry, the animals in the wild
and elephant in the park. I didn't
		
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			understand anything about water. I
said, just tell us what we must
		
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			get.
		
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			And of course, we supplied that to
everyone. The point I'm trying to
		
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			make is that as South Africans, we
need to remove the ego, and we
		
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			need to work together in the
interest of the people of
		
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			Nazareth. One example. The same
thing happened in Georgia last
		
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			week,
		
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			and whilst we were doing that,
somebody came to the warehouse and
		
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			said I didn't get sugar. So I
asked my team members, why didn't
		
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			you get sugar? So he said, he's
right. The sugar is finished. It's
		
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			coming from checkers just now. So
he said, it's not for me. So I
		
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			said, and who's it for your
neighbor? You said, No, it's for
		
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			the bees.
		
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			I said, this guy is drinking too
much.
		
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			What is he talking about? I said,
Look, I don't understand what this
		
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			guy is saying. Just give him some
sugar for the bees. I went away
		
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			and I said, No, the story is not
complete. So I called him. I said,
		
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			You better come back tomorrow. I
did an explanation. So he comes
		
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			back the next morning with two
other people, and he says,
		
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			you know that this fire is because
of the drought. You know, there's
		
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			no plants. You know, the bees
couldn't eat on anything in this
		
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			fire. There were 300 beehives.
Each beehive has 75,000 to 80,000
		
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			bees. We lost 22 million bees in
the fire.
		
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			The Cape honeybee is the most
versatile and most resilient bee
		
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			in the world. It is haploid and
diploid. These are not my words. I
		
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			know nothing about bees. This is a
haploid and diploid, and they can
		
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			make their own queen bee. And he
said, you can understand what will
		
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			happen to the flora and the fauna.
		
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			So I said, That still doesn't
explain about the sugar. So he
		
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			said, in the absence of plants,
you have a nectar, pollen
		
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			substitute. In the absence, which
is very expensive, in the absence
		
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			of that, we make a sugar solution
to look after the bees. We brought
		
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			in 30 tons of sugar to help the
bees. Then he took me on site, and
		
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			he said, You got to see the bees.
Who had to wear that bee outfit?
		
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			Was I scared? Because I've been
stung many times. He opens a box,
		
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			and then he starts screaming. I
thought, we're going to be
		
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			attacked by a swab of bees. I
said, What is wrong with you?
		
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			He said, the queen bee. The Queen
Bee, the queen bee. He said, you
		
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			don't see the queen. Be in a
hurry. Can you see it?
		
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			They all look the same to me.
		
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			I said, Yes, I can see it. I don't
know what Delhi was talking
		
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			about. Any case, you said, there's
a good omen, a good sign. We
		
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			supported them with 300 new
beehives, nectar, pollen,
		
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			substitute. Gave them money to
grow new plants, 30 tons of sugar,
		
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			and they set up a research
facility. Up till today,
		
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			university professors, students
and everyone goes to the site to
		
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			see how bees are rescued and how
to save bees all over the country.
		
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			This is
		
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			nedbang likes green things, isn't
it? We project. We did the
		
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			invitation. Something else
happened. I told you, they asked
		
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			for the food for the horse, the
pig, the cow and the sheep. Whilst
		
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			we were there, we got a call from
Sutherland, and they said, the
		
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			farmers in Sutherland are
desperate. This is a story of
		
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			faith, of resilience, of
spirituality and positivity. We
		
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			asked, What's the problem? And the
drought was big at that time, and
		
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			the drought is still there. And
they said the drought has affected
		
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			the sheep cow, the prize merino
sheep are in serious trouble.
		
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			The Count from 442,000
		
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			eventually dropped to 32,000
		
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			farms closed.
		
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			Any people lost their jobs. So
some farmers shot themselves. They
		
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			took the kids out of university.
They couldn't provide food for
		
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			them. They had to put the laborers
off. They couldn't take the Bucky
		
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			to go and fetch for the because
they had no money for fuel. The
		
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			credit cards were mixed. The
corporate did not give them any
		
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			much credit. The banks did not
have them anymore. They were
		
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			collapsing, and they were crying.
		
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			We spend from 2017 up to today,
400 million Rand to save the
		
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			farmer, the sheep, the families
and the workers, when we started
		
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			selling the fodder across they
were overjoyed when Day Zero hit
		
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			Cape Town in January, 2018
		
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			by June, the farmers called back,
and they said, we appreciate your
		
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			help, but we can't go on any
longer. And we said, now, what's
		
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			the problem? They said, all the
boreholes have dried up. Fodder
		
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			without water is of no use. We
have to throw the towel in. We
		
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			said, Give to the givers. We don't
believe in that philosophy. For
		
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			us, nothing is insurmountable. I
sent in my own drilling team. We
		
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			drilled 238
		
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			boreholes to provide water, to
save the sheep, to save the farms,
		
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			to save the jobs, to save lives.
		
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			Two years ago, finally, the sheep
County, January 2022
		
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			the sheep county started climbing
one of the farmers that works with
		
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			us, Shyan and Sabal fasaki,
decided to put up a pallet making
		
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			machine. A pallet making machine
takes any type of fodder that's
		
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			messed up, wet to bread quality to
that you add loosen maize and
		
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			molasses, and you make a highly
energized, nutrified product, like
		
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			you have energy foods, and once we
started feeding it to the farmers,
		
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			the farmership count started
rising. Then came the Ukraine war,
		
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			and the maize price went up, and
the farmers couldn't afford five
		
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			Rand extra on a bag. Again, they
said we're going to shut down. We
		
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			have subsidized every bag up till
today. We've gone through it for
		
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			seven years, and you know the
turnaround time. Welcome when you
		
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			do CSI, don't look for short term
gain again. Look for something
		
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			that's sustainable, that has
impact. When this thing turns
		
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			around, agriculture and the GDP
gets supported by 18 to 9.2%
		
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			the job created by farm workers
taking care of their families also
		
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			takes a huge social burden of the
country, and we have to be support
		
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			them all the way seven years of
patience and resilience, the
		
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			turnaround has to come at some
point. I couldn't stop in 2017
		
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			I couldn't stop in 2018 the job
would have been half done, and
		
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			everything would have been wasted.
And up till today, two to 300,000
		
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			Rand at a time we are still
funding to make sure that this
		
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			thing turns around in 2018 of
course, we got involved with
		
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			helping Cape Town with boreholes
and water intervention for day
		
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			zero. Then came the big move into
Eastern Cape in 2019
		
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			again, a very critical decision.
Makanda was in serious trouble.
		
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			We got calls from the
municipality, from the citizens,
		
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			from the university, to say,
there's a serious problem with the
		
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			dams in Makanda. They said, We
need your help for three days.
		
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			We're there for five years
already.
		
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			Had we not intervened,
		
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			Makanda is a university town. If
people then come to the
		
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			university, the University would
have closed all those conferences
		
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			they have at. Settlers would have
closed all the franchise,
		
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			franchise shops. Would have closed
all the bed and breakfast would
		
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			have closed the entire town, and
Alice and everything around them
		
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			would have closed a total massive
loss of jobs. All it required was
		
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			the intervention. What boreholes?
We put in five balls in
		
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			university. We put in a massive
ball in a school called and sika.
		
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			It's our Super Bowl in the
country. Produces 1 million liters
		
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			of water a day. We then pipelines
into the townships called kailitha
		
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			and the other areas. And we put in
altogether 15 balls, including at
		
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			saps, at the SPCA, at the dog unit
in other schools. And it settles
		
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			to make sure that the town
survives up till today. That was a
		
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			huge intervention corporate South
Africa. Unfortunately, up till
		
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			many years ago, was only
interested in ticking the
		
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			register, getting a tax
certificate and getting some write
		
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			up or some coverage by Sheldon and
other media. Your projects were
		
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			not very effective. They were not
there no social impact. They were
		
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			there to tick the register. But
something changed in 2020
		
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			when covid happened, corporates.
		
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			South Africa, the mindset changed,
not the CSI, not I'm not saying
		
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			the CSI was important, but the CEO
and the MDS of companies started
		
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			calling and they asked, and they
said, forget the media coverage.
		
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			Don't worry about tax certificate.
Just tell us what you need and how
		
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			much do you need. We need to save
our people, and we need to save
		
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			our country. That sentiment has
been running for four years now.
		
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			We supported 210 hospitals in the
country during covid We put in
		
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			5000 oxygen machines, 12,000
scrubs, surgery gowns, surgical
		
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			gowns for the various theaters. We
even put in food for the patients.
		
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			We supported the healthcare
workers with mental health
		
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			support. We put in additional
staff. We brought in oxygen
		
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			points. We put in special high
flow nasal oxygen machines. We
		
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			brought in other types of
machines. We did infrastructure
		
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			upgrades at hospitals. We made
dedicated covid wards. We put in
		
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			boreholes in Rahima, Musa and
Helen Joseph and other hospitals
		
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			in the country men in the Eastern
Cape, simply to save life. But we
		
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			couldn't do that without corporate
South Africa. No questions asked.
		
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			Just do what you have to do.
		
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			Came to civil unrest in july 2021
		
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			people understood it was not an
insurrection, and neither was it a
		
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			riot. I'm not going to that now,
but civil unrest came in 2021 the
		
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			corporates were quick off the
mark. What in 72 hours, everybody
		
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			was calmed down. Again. We worked
in a very different way. Gifts,
		
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			prize itself in buying the items
ourselves, loading our trucks,
		
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			ourselves, offloading ourselves,
taking into the areas ourselves
		
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			and distributing it ourselves. But
so many hundreds of 1000 people
		
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			hunger in KZN, that system was
never going to work.
		
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			We partnered game reserves,
hotels, companies, NGOs, people on
		
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			the ground, sports people, they
came with their trucks, or we sent
		
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			our trucks. We didn't pre pack
everything in our warehouse. We
		
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			send the items with bug and we pre
packed they took people. Everybody
		
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			was nobody was working. Everybody
was available. But we took trusted
		
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			people. Win this business for 32
years. We know we can trust and
		
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			who we can't trust. We've been to
every corner of this country. We
		
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			knew exactly who to work with and
who not to work with. Again, South
		
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			Africans came together and peace
was brought into to the area
		
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			immediately.
		
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			Seven april 2022
		
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			the floods. It KZN, five o'clock
in the evening, the water rose in
		
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			Tonga, eight meters in 45 minutes,
we were expecting everybody to
		
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			call us. We want boats, divers,
helicopters, rescue people. No
		
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			such calls. The only calls we got
up till one o'clock in the morning
		
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			was from corporate South Africa.
What do you need and how much do
		
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			you need
		
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			when you have that kind of
support, when you have that kind
		
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			of humanity? We can't fail as a
country. We need that
		
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			spirituality. We need that
compassion and we need that care.
		
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			Yes, make money. I'm not saying
don't make money. Make much money,
		
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			but making the money. Understand,
there's a share for those who
		
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			don't have you see, we have a
teaching what you don't spend is
		
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			not yours. So I can give all of
you 2 billion rand this afternoon.
		
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			My only question to you is, how
many lives you going to love to
		
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			spend that money? You're not going
to be able to spend that money.
		
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			There's a point when you say,
enough is enough.
		
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			The enrichment of the soul comes
through giving help to others,
		
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			quietly, in a dignified way. You
can't understand that unless you
		
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			do it itself, yourself. I'm doing
this for 34 years, 32 years from
		
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			gift of the givers, and two years
before that. So I know exactly
		
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			what I'm talking about.
		
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			Now. We have new challenges in the
country, post covid, number one,
		
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			severe mental health challenges in
healthcare workers. 2 billion
		
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			people in the world are affected
by that we don't have enough
		
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			psychologists in this country.
Where should you be putting your
		
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			money training psychologists and
funding the psychologists once
		
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			they at work at schools and
universities and in the public?
		
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			Because the government doesn't
have the budgets. There's a
		
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			temporary
		
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			budget they constrain right now,
which will get sorted out in time.
		
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			You see, we can't keep saying the
government is corrupt.
		
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			Government doesn't corrupt itself.
Corporates have a huge role to
		
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			play in corruption and
overpricing. We need to be very,
		
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			very careful about pointing
figures. Government is not
		
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			corrupt. There are corrupt people
in government. It's very
		
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			different, like corporate is not
corrupt. There are corrupt people
		
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			in corporate and in mosques and in
churches and in central Congress,
		
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			we have them everywhere, and in
NGO sector, we have them
		
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			everywhere. Don't take it away
that everybody is in the best same
		
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			picture. We need to understand
there are good people who want to
		
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			make the system work, and we need
to harness that good people and
		
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			encourage them and say this.
		
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			We have to do so what? Covid
itself? Psychology. Psychologists
		
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			are dying in short supply of
psychologists. Universities don't
		
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			take too many.
		
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			The second major problem that we
have is catch up surgery, waiting
		
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			eight to 10 years for a new
operation or a cataract surgery.
		
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			We got involved in yesterday in
Cape Town, we wiped out the entire
		
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			backlog of cataract surgery. We
did the same for Victoria
		
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			Hospital. They all came to Yes,
but I wanted it sounds very simple
		
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			cataract surgery. Let it. Let me
make it to you a bit more
		
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			understandable in terms of the
emotional impact.
		
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			A wife takes out tabandish from
the eyes after surgery, she looks
		
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			at the husband and says, You gone
old. The
		
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			husband also had cataracts. He
takes off his bandage, he looks at
		
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			the wife and he says, You gone
old, too.
		
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			Eight years. Eight years. The
husband and wife could not see
		
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			each other.
		
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			Love life, romance, happiness,
eight years gone. How long does
		
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			the cataract operation take? Eight
minutes. They waited eight years
		
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			for something that takes eight
minutes. We should stop
		
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			complaining. Only rich people
complain. We need to change our
		
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			system and be grateful for what we
have and put back whatever we can
		
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			into help those who cannot help
themselves. Catch up surgery is
		
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			huge in this country. We have the
competent, dedicated healthcare
		
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			professionals who want to do it.
They need the support. So catch up
		
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			surgery is a huge field.
Psychologist is a huge field,
		
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			another big field, which I'm
calling out corporate in South
		
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			Africa, we need to fund registrars
in the health system. The
		
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			government has frozen all
registrar posts. That's a total
		
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			disaster. Registrars train medical
officers and children doctors
		
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			below them. They get their
training from registrars.
		
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			Registrars do the research.
Registrars become consultants.
		
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			Registrars carried the entire
health system. If registrars are
		
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			not there, the system is going to
collapse. You're going to get
		
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			litigation, you're going to get
improper care, you're going to
		
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			have lack of dignity. We need to
fund registrars. How much does it
		
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			cost? 900,000 Rand a year. What is
900,000 for a corporate company,
		
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			let's be honest. But you need a
commitment for four years, because
		
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			it takes four years to become a
consultant,
		
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			the registrar. So those who want
to train are even willing to take
		
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			a knock, to take 600,000 Rand the
salary of an intern, because they
		
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			want to serve our country. These
are the committed people we need
		
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			to hold their hands. We need
teachers. The teachers are getting
		
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			old, but more than ordinary
teachers, we need teachers with
		
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			special education needs. My wife
went into a school called Tamil
		
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			Protective Association school, TPA
inquiry matters during her
		
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			internship there, she studied over
years because there were lots of
		
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			bumps on the road, and finally she
became a counseling psychologist.
		
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			The moment she walked into school,
she came back, she said, there's a
		
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			huge problem. 171 kids in the
school have learning disorders.
		
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			You can't cope with normal kids in
a class. How can you cope with
		
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			kids with learning disorders that
come from fragmented, broken
		
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			homes? We put in psychologists,
teachers with special learning
		
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			disorders. We upgraded the
toilets, we upgraded the
		
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			classrooms. We provided food
parcels, and we provide full
		
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			support to that school. One
example, don't have to do 100 and
		
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			all we have to do is replicate the
process so education, schools,
		
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			teachers, special education needs
and toilets, kids cannot go to the
		
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			type of schools is indignified to
go to toilets like that we see in
		
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			our country. We're putting them
throughout the country. Also, you
		
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			need to spend money on that. Don't
think this is not fancy. You know,
		
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			it doesn't look macho, it doesn't
look great. It doesn't matter how
		
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			it looks. What matters? It's what
difference it makes to the life of
		
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			the people in this country. If you
in that school, if your child was
		
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			in school, what would you expect?
Put yourself in the position of
		
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			those people, and don't worry
about fancy look at how it looks,
		
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			for the image, and what kind of
marketing you to get. Forget the
		
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			marketing. Do what is right.
		
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			And then, of course, the hunger in
the country. And I want to finish
		
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			off here. There's lots of other
projects, but focus on health,
		
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			education, the water, which is a
big requirement, and I mean
		
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			hunger, I'll give you the final
example.
		
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			Six August last year, coinciding
with our 31st anniversary, we get
		
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			the sad news that a mother has
killed her three children and
		
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			killed herself in a tobelo village
in Butterworth. What's
		
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			the story?
		
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			She had no food, no means of
income, no support. She borrowed
		
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			some money from the neighbor.
Neighbor gave the money and said,
		
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			afterwards, I need the money back.
The mother didn't have the money.
		
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			She had rat X. She put rat X in
the food, and she killed two
		
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			children. She didn't have any.