Imtiaz Sooliman – Business Caf 22 June 2023 PART 4

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A woman discusses her experience in Sudan and how she was approached by the government to obtain money to cover the cost of a bus. She talks about how she was approached by the government and how they made arrangements to allow people to go through the border without the necessary paperwork. She also mentions how the government is very
the most impossible to talk to and how people are not
the most impossible to talk to.

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			I
		
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			want to say something again about
the spiritual law in the Sudan
		
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			evacuation.
		
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			Derko called me a DG, and he said,
Can you help with money? They're
		
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			not sure if they can access the
embassy to get money to hide the
		
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			bus. We managed to arrange two
busses, and then they found the
		
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			money, $44,000 which is exactly
the right amount to pay for two
		
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			busses. Not one cent more, not one
cent this, or not $1 less, $1
		
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			more. And they came and got the
busses. But because the network
		
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			was so bad, some of them didn't
get the message and they left. The
		
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			busses left them
		
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			so the certificates were stuck. So
we said, we'll put up the third
		
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			bus, but the bus company wants
cash, no credit card, no ft, no
		
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			banks are working. It's all
closed, so there's no guarantee
		
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			that they will get their money.
They want cash money, and we had
		
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			no cash money there. I was not
even in the country. But again,
		
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			things work in different ways. One
of my team members, who's now
		
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			Middle East representative, we
moved him to Turkey to be based
		
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			there. It's much easier to work
from there for many things. I
		
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			called him, I said, Dr Malik, you
stayed seven years in Sudan. You
		
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			see, everything has some back
history. He stayed seven years in
		
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			Sudan. I said, you know the lingo,
you know the guys make the call.
		
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			He calls the bus driver. Five
minutes before we spoke to the bus
		
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			driver, he said, no money. I mean
not bus driver, bus company, the
		
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			owner, no money, no bus. Dr Malik
calls him three minutes later. He
		
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			tells us who needs money? Take the
bus.
		
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			See, it's not our greatness.
		
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			Everything is worked out for you.
I'll tell you another amazing
		
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			thing about what the our
government did.
		
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			There was a lady who she was in
panic mode, because when they went
		
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			to the shopping center and
Khartoum, they saw people getting
		
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			shot, and we were getting raped,
and children getting raped, and
		
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			she got anxiety and fear, and she
just drove for the husband, 200
		
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			kilometers out to them towards the
south. And then eventually we
		
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			asked, like, who's missing from
the South African this? And it's
		
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			this lady. That's when and the
lady and the daughter, and they
		
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			don't come out and say, how are
you going to be saved? I spent one
		
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			hour from half past two in the
morning to half past three in the
		
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			morning encouraging. I said, India
and you need to get out. She said,
		
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			I am frozen. I can't get out into
the streets. I'm terrified.
		
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			So I encouraged her and motivated
her, and eventually she got in the
		
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			street and she got out. She says,
My biggest problem is this, I
		
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			don't have documents. My husband
doesn't have documents. My
		
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			daughter doesn't have documents.
But the problem is, I've got a
		
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			South African document. My husband
got an American document, and my
		
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			daughter is also an American,
American document. We don't have
		
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			it. What happens when we get to
the border?
		
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			There are no consular services.
IPhone, decor. We made the
		
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			arrangements. What the South
African lady to come out? And like
		
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			we did for everybody else, we
pulled out close to 90 people. And
		
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			then I phoned the US Consul
General, upper Zen at night. First
		
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			I spoke to other lady. She said,
we do this tomorrow. I said, Lady,
		
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			I don't understand tomorrow. I
understand now, call me Constance
		
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			General. I'll give him the
ambassador's number. Was annoying
		
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			too. So I called the Consul
General. She said, I'm calling
		
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			Washington right now at night,
which is daytime for them. They
		
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			phoned Egypt. Unintentional mate,
American husband and an American
		
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			daughter, which is original
daughter of the South African
		
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			woman's on the computer
		
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			coming out to Sudan side. They
can't cross. They've been blocked
		
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			from the Sudanese side. We made a
couple of calls advocate Patrick
		
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			LeWitt, who worked for the UN for
10 years, we made some calls and
		
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			eventually allowed all three to go
through. They got to the other
		
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			side. They can't fly now because
they got no documents. The South
		
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			African can get a document, but
Americans, people are not there.
		
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			Our consular services went all the
way today. We took the borders.
		
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			It's a * of a long distance
away. Each of borders are very
		
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			remote from Sudan. They took the
trouble, they took the journey,
		
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			and they went to the border to
receive them, to give them a paper
		
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			at the border, but there was no
paper for the Americans. So I
		
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			called dako. I made another call.
The Americans were issued with
		
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			South African passports,
		
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			and that's how they came home.
		
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			You see, there's a lot of goodness
in people who understand the
		
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			language of the heart. So we need
to start thinking positively,
		
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			because we have got great people
in this country, that lady would
		
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			have come home without a husband
and a daughter. And you know,
		
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			government is very bureaucratic,
and it's especially when it comes
		
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			to diplomatic things that the most
impossible to talk to. They didn't
		
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			think twice to make a South
African passport, but I got a job
		
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			back some * clever lady in
the airline picked up as a mistake
		
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			in the document and said, You
can't fly to Cape Town. I just
		
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			made a call to the other airline
and they said.
		
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			Whenever documents will fly you
without documents, things can be
		
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			changed. Can be modified. There's
faith and there's spirituality.
		
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			Anything is possible. Thank you.