Imtiaz Sooliman – Business Caf 22 June 2023 PART 3

Imtiaz Sooliman
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The speakers discuss the challenges faced by the South African government during the pandemic, including domestic violence and the need for disaster management teams to come and use their skills. They emphasize the importance of serving people and finding arrangements on the ground, building the country together, and the need for disaster management teams to come and use their skills again. They also touch on the use of dogs as human beings and the importance of positive mindset for holding hands with government officials.
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So I left, came back home, and the heart started jumping. It wanted

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to go back six, August, 92 the official date, Thursday night, the

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zikr again, 10pm the spiritual teacher frees the zikr is sitting

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on the floor. He lifts his head up, and he makes eye contact with

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me, and I'm on the other side of the room, and he looks heavenward

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at the same time

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he says in FLUENT Turkish, and I don't speak a word of Turkish, but

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I understood every single word that he said in Turkish that

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night, he said, My son, I'm not asking you, I'm instructing you to

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form an organization. The name in Arabic will be walkful wakifin,

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translated gift of the givers. You will serve all people of all

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races, all religions, all colors, all classes, all cultures, of any

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geographical location and of any political affiliation. But you

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will serve them unconditionally. You will expect nothing in return,

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not even a thank you. In fact, in what you're going to be doing for

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the rest of your life. I was 30 years old, expect to get a kick up

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your back. If you don't get a kick up your back, regard it as a

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bonus. Serve people what love, kindness, compassion and mercy,

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and remember the dignity of man is foremost. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Eskom will not destroy a country. Race differences will not destroy

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a country. Financial differences will not destroy a country. What

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will destroy a country is when people lose all dignity, when they

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lose dignity and there is no hope and there are no consequences,

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because you've got nothing more to lose than your country is gone

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because they have nothing more to lose. They've lost everything. How

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do you tell a parent or the parents you know, I'm very sorry,

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your two year old child fell down a pet toilet and drowned in feces.

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What will happen to you if your child or your grandchild drowns in

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in feces. What will happen to your soul? It happens all the time.

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It's been happening for years. Have you seen violence? Have you

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seen anger? Have you seen people interrupting and killing anybody?

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They bear it with patience, because it's the same mentality of

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27th April, 1994

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we are abusing that.

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We need to change the system. We need to share an old hands and

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take to people are not asking for much. I told you what they asking

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for. We need to return the dignity of people as South Africans,

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because we are all one people in this country. We've been

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advantaged another people have been disadvantaged. We need to

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level the playing field. They don't want everything that you

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have. All they want is a little dignity, not too much ask to ask

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and not too much to give, clothe the naked, feed the hungry,

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provide water to the thirsty, and in everything you do be the best

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at what you do,

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not because of ego. If anything destroys the community and the

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country, it's ego. It breaks relationship between husband and

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wife, between parents and children in the families, in the church, in

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the NGO sector, in government, in the corporates. The biggest

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monster on Earth is ego and greed, not because of ego, but because

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we're dealing with human emotion, human suffering and human dignity.

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My son, remember that whatever you do is done through you and not by

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you.

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For 30 years, I'm a loving witness that all the things that you guys

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think I do is not humanly possible.

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Everything is laid out for you. You need somebody. They call you.

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You need a contact. The contact is put in front of you. You need an

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item that comes to you. Everything is put out for you. And I'll give

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you an example in a little while, everything is put out for you in

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the most magnificent way, because when you have faith and

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spirituality, something is taking care of you all the time. Mario

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can give you that story also, it's incredible what happens? So I

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asked him. I said, I got a little bit of a problem here. I am a

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doctor. I have three practices in a place called Peter merricksburg

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in South Africa. What am I supposed to do? And when am I

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supposed to do this? Like after hours, weekends, long weekends,

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public holidays. When he

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told me one line

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you will know

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for 30 years, I do know what to do, how to do, what to touch, what

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not to touch. The most glaring example was sixth January, 2014

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al Qaeda contacted us after six months we were.

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Saying we need to talk about South Africa that you guys have

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captured. And

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on the seventh of January, 2010

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they told us come to Aden, and my team member goes to Aden in Yemen

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in four days. No training by the FBI, no training by the Americans

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of Europe, no training by anybody in hostage negotiations. We take

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out Yolandi Koki alive, Ransom free in four days. How we just

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knew what to do, how to do, when to do.

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It's a spiritual gift. What you need comes at the right time.

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But that same night, when I walked out on the sixth of August, 1992

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it came to be the same night respond to the civil war in

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Bosnia, not five months later, the same month six, August, 92 I took

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in 32 containers of aid into Bosnia alone. Three months later

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we took it eight containers of winter items the two affected

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Eastern Europe in winter can reach minus 21 degrees.

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So what took away from South Africa, we got a great country in

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great weather. We're not going to get this anywhere else. In 93 came

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the big challenge. We designed the world's first containerized mobile

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hospital, and that's where I met Johan Van der beetheren.

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I went to his place, him and his brother. I met them in Victoria

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and Rosalind. A few weeks later, they came to my house, and I said,

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Johan, we got to design this hospital and make it a world first

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we built 28 state of the art units, a world first theater unit,

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ICU, sterilization, X ray, dental unit, Burn Unit, casualty,

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outpatient, orthopedics, gynecology and the whole range and

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a bus and an ambulance and a generator to go with it. But when

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Johan came to the house, I said, Joan, we've just been formed in an

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organization. I don't have money. I can't guarantee I'm going to pay

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you. I'm not sure we want to get it done. He said, How much you got

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until I can give you 300,000

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men? He said, It's fine. I'll build it. I said, at that time, we

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were looking at about five or six containers, around 1.21 point 3

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million. And I said, if I can't pay you, then what? He said, It's

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my gift to you.

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You see, I prejudiced against Christian, against white, against

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Africana.

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And the teacher said, We don't judge anybody. We look at as human

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being, as a human being. We keep an open heart and an open mind. We

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don't put people in boxes.

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People may have bad habits. Doesn't make them bad people. And

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he said, look at people without all his labels. And that same

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night, it left me, and that's why I contacted him, a man from

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another religion, another color, another race, was prepared to give

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a hospital for a Muslim people inside Bosnia, and our

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relationship has started ever since then, it was the world's

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first, a hospital built in Pretoria, built in South Africa, a

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world first taken from Africa into Europe. But how many South

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Africans believe in themselves, in our capacity, in our capability to

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be world class? CNN film, the food hospital on the first of February,

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1994

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and they said the South African containerized mobile hospital is

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equal to any of the best hospitals in Europe. All credit goes to that

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man and his company.

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I'm

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going to give you two more examples, and then we call it

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today,

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12, January,

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8, 12 journey. 2010

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the earthquake hits Haiti, eight days later, 20th, January, my

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teams are in the collapse Catholic Church, and yes, I was in the

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rubble,

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and they pull out alive, 64 year old in Azizi, no oxygen, no food,

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no no water, completely covered in the rubble, fractured hip. They

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pull her out alive. Eight days into the earthquake, her first

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words to Ahmed bam, my team leader, leader and money house,

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two team leaders. She tells them, I love God. You instill hope and

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faith in somebody several 1000 kilometers away. The second words

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to them was, I love you. The essence of religion is love and

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service. My teacher told me, there's no point sitting in the

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corner and reading the rosary. There's not going to help anybody.

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It's time to get out of the corner and go and serve people

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unconditionally. That is the essence of real religion and

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service is the best thing you can do to climb the spiritual ladder

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in 2023

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we repeated that feat

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seven February.

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I call general particular Western Cape police commissioner. Well,

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let's go a little bit back. I truly I'll give an example of what

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spirituality, how spirituality works. In November last year, my

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friend calls me from Cape Town and says, the general manager of

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Turkish Airlines from San Francisco is moving to Cape Town

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to be the general manager in Cape Town. Would you like to meet him?

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I said, Yes, I need an airline partner. But since covid,

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everything is sort of not non functional, but we need to prepare

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for something in the future. So he says, Fine, but you can't see him

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now. He's arranging his work permit, distracting the other we

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see him next year, first February, I'm jumping the plane from German

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to Cape Town. It strikes me out of the blue, hey, this man said, This

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guy from Turkey is coming from America, is coming. I call him. I

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said, is the guy here? Called me back in a few minutes? Yes, he is

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here. Will you see me? But I can only see him nine o'clock at

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night. He says, Yes, he was. You will take him for supper.

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Srinan comes. We speak, we make the introduction. My words to him

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on the first of February, 2023

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is I'm looking for an airline partner on whom I can move search

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and rescue equipment in the event an earthquake hits some country.

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Five days later, four and a half days actually, 417, six, February,

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Monday morning, the earthquake hits his country.

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On the fourth of February, I fly from medicine, from Cape Town to

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Joburg, because my mother, my wife, said, You're ducking all

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family weddings, you better come. So I figure also from Madison book

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to Joburg, and I fly to Joburg on the first somebody forgot to book

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medicine flight to Durban. So be very philosophical about it. It's

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God's will. You're meeting the rest of the family. We haven't

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seen your brothers and sisters for a long time. Nice to spend some

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time together. I knew it wasn't that but anyway, yes, we have been

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staying in Merck. It's like on the sixth of February, 4 17, when the

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earthquake hit. I understood why there was no return flight for me

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on the fifth of February, because I needed to go see the texture

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ambassador. Because she called me and she said, we need your teams.

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And I said, I need all arrangements made on the ground.

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Who's going to receive me, where we going into how we going to get

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there. My first priority is how we going to get out, not how we're

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going to get in, in any disaster. So I went and said to them and the

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teams had to come to come to Joburg, and we started doing

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everything. Had I been in marysburg, I would love time, and

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I would have come back to Joburg. So God, made it such efficient,

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not wasting time. I was there

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on the seventh of February when the team started getting across. I

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realized they're not going to manage. So I phoned general

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particular, the head of the Western Cape provision

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commissioner and I said, General, we need alike. Made the call. We

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need the dogs. We can stick in our own private dogs and our own

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private handlers. But I told you, we need to build the country

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together. When we upskill the several servants, they benefit the

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country when they come back. That's why, as part of our

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disaster management teams are guys from disaster management. As part

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of our medical teams are guys from the Public Service converted to

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come and they can come back and use their skills again. So before

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the ministry and Ali calls them and says, we need the dogs, he

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says, My friend Ali, the person who deals with the dogs

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internationally, sitting right next to me before him all the

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time. The guy wasn't sitting next to him before the day, we need him

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sitting right next to him. And there is hope for government. You

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see, in five minutes, they took a decision to give us five dogs and

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six handles. Five minutes is history. Historical. You got to

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write it down. Never happens. They come to you after disaster

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and SAP. Saps asked us, How did you come right with SAP is what

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SAP is, dogs and SAS handers, we can't do this in three days. How

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did you guys do this? I said, we bribe them.

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The dog chief understood spirituality, he understood

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service. He understood importance of the dogs to go in 12 hours,

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five dogs and six handlers were waiting in the airport to fly to

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Turkey.

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There is good in the government, and there's a lot of things we can

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do together. So the dogs get to Hatay.

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We're the only NGO in the world. What our team? Such an SQ team.

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All the other guys who've come there are government, Chinese,

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Italian Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian Bahraini, Saudi Arabian, Omani and

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the Turkish Government teams all come with their own planes, their

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uniforms, their equipment. We're the only team in the world that

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went at our own cost, our own equipment, and we took our

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government with us. That's the difference.

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But those dogs were very clever. You.

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After a while, they said, you the only guys who got five dogs. We

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only got like, two dogs. And they said, your dog can smell a live

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person and the deceased person. He knows the difference. Our dog

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can't do that. We need one dog for live person, one dog for deceased

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person. One dog can't do both.

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So they asked my teacher, like, how come the dog can do that. So

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we said, the dog is South African.

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If the dog can do that, what can't we do as human beings? Nothing is

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insurmountable. And they ask, How does he know the difference? So

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the dog lies down like this when there's people, and the Turkish

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Government thanked us, because in one building where the dog did

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that, they picked up 200 bodies, and the building,

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the other building where the dog started digging, we said, like,

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how, you know it doesn't live person. We said, the dog goes

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crazy, starts digging. And in that building, the dog was right,

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Donna. The dog's name was Donna. People pulled out a 90 year old

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Turkish old woman from the rubber thank you to the dog.

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Brigadier vamla mudli, who was in charge of that dog, got called by

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the Turkish president, and she received the Presidential Award,

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which recognized saps the dog unit, the dogs and our country.

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It's a huge achievement. It's just simply by taking him across. So

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let's go to something more spiritual. Before that, last year,

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people from our unit called us and said they bought us these nice,

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big Land Cruisers for the dog unit, but they forgot to cover it.

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Now you can't go to land cruiser everybody that dog in the back

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that's open and jump out and run away.

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So we closed the Land Cruisers. Not doing me doing it for her.

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The same lady that we closed the Land Cruiser for was the same lady

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called to lead the saps team. The same lady's dog found a live

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person in the country that's close to me, because that's why gift of

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the givers was born. I mean, there 28 times,

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and as a spiritual thing, she gets the President gives her the award.

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She comes back to South Africa, and on the first of June, guess

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who's the new head of the South African canine units. The new head

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of the South African canine units, the government recognize the skill

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put in charge, and we already think, as a first measure, we're

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going to give them 60 dogs, because they don't have dogs. The

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biggest problem is, in the case of them, floods realized there were

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no dogs.

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The last two spiritual messages, one is, let's talk about saps.

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During the lockdown itself, Ali was in non zamo, the place in PAL

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It

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was April, 2022

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the lockdown was biting. People were hungry. It was time to give

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out food parcels. We rolled out over 200,000 food parcels. And

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eight o'clock came level five, lockdown, and saps came and said,

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curfew, lockdown. Can't food parcels anymore. Ali Causeway, I

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said, saps guy, can jump in the lake. I'm breaking the law of law.

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I can do what he wants. We break laws. We specialize in that. And

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we said, you're going to deliver to the credit of the saps guy, he

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says, You are right.

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We can't leave all people standing in the cold weather,

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he called for reinforcements and said we would put old people in

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the vans and take them to the house.

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The last old lady gets a food parcel at half past 12 in the

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morning. Night into the next morning, it's freezing cold. She

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tells Ali she's going home to wake up her grandchildren. She said, at

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this part of the morning, I is not right. She says, You see, when I

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left home in the morning, my grandchildren looked with hope in

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the eyes to me that I'll bring something for them to eat, because

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they haven't eaten for days. We don't know what goes on across the

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road.

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And she said, when I take it home, I have to show them that my wait

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for the whole day was not wasted. If the SAP has blocked that that

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would have been a serious problem. But they were human, and they

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understood that people need help. And she said, I'm taking it home

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to wake my grandchildren up to eat in a place called pedi in June,

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2024

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gave the food parcel. The lady said, thank you very much, in a

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very dignified way, and she said, Talk to my children. They will

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tell you the taste of every plant because they've been eating plants

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for the last three months. There's no food, you see, there was no

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violence, no eruption, nothing burning because people have faith

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and patience. Let's not abuse that.

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The final point

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you see, if we all stand together, and I take my uniform off, and you

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guys take uniforms off, and the media takes his title off, and

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everybody takes the titles off, and we all stand next.

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Each other. We don't know who's who.

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All we know is we come from the same community, from the same

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area. We all want peace. We all want harmony. We all want

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education. We want water. We want life. We want everything. We are

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South African, all together, standing next to each other. Take

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the titles, the branding, the labels all off, and when you walk

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together, that's what we did in Western Cape in the floods. It's

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the most remarkable intervention we've done. In 13 days. We've been

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to 51 areas in 13 days, distributing along the n1 the n2

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and the n7 when we were trying came to the bridge in Citrus Delta

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was cut off completely. Local knowledge of we asked somebody,

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Ali said, Does somebody know I'm on another road? And one farmer

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said, yes, there's another farmer that got his own bridge across the

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road and go there. So we went, and we found a bridge. The water was

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crossing. The police divers came, Ambulance Service came, paramedics

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came, helicopter pilots came, disaster management, municipality

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councilors, local people, everybody came, and my driver

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said, we're going to take the risk and we're going to drive across

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this bridge where the water's coming across and the divers are

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waiting on the side in case the truck falls into the water to take

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them out. But everybody went, and they crossed that bridge, and

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expectant people on the other side were crying with joy, screaming,

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shouting, because for days they were cut off from basic stuff

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working South Africa, not worried about the labels. We did it and we

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went across waportal was cut off, and helicopter pilot said, the

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wind is right now. Let's jump in and fly. And they went into. My

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teams went in. We supplied it. We supplied all the stuff. Every

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single item in the flood zone has come from gift of the givers. We

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spent 15 million in 10 days already just taking stuff into the

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areas yesterday, they will find Cedarburg, see the big area, same

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story, with helicopters getting into the area, trucks working

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together. We go across into citrus dal The guy said, You gotta be

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back in two hours. That water's gonna rise. Your truck won't come

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through. So we left the police ambulance, the police van, the

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ambulance, the RTI. They took the goods to the balance the house. We

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had to be out in two hours today. We can't cross the bridge. The

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water is fly. The truck cannot go through that bridge again at the

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right time, at the right moment. We got through. So as South

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Africans, there's a lot of hope in this country. This is the greatest

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country in the world. We need to be positive. We have to have

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mindset change. We need to hold the hands of the good guys of

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government and kick the bad guys in their teeth and fix this

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country. We can do that. The final point, when the Bosnian team was

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there in Turkey, the Bosnian team member comes to Ahmed bam, my team

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leader, he takes out his wallet, he takes out a picture. Ahmed sees

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a picture of a baby and a mother in the picture, and the guy starts

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crying,

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and he asked, like, like, what happened?

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It's his. I know your guy's name.

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I know the name gift of the givers, because that baby is me,

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and I was born in the hospital that you guys brought that joint

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fund the Vietnam brother working together, ladies and gentlemen,

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thank you. You.

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