Imtiaz Sooliman – Business Caf 22 June 2023 PART 2
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The speaker discusses the need for everyone to provide credit for the supposed shutdown and the rise in political and political unrest in South Africa, including deadly drugs and disaster management. They emphasize the need for compassionate behavior and fixing people's beliefs to avoid conflict. A woman in April died while on a bus, and the speaker emphasizes the importance of giving people titles, government, and private ownership. The need for fixing people's beliefs and giving them titles, government, and private ownership is emphasized.
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Four people from you,
the same thing in government, and then everybody talks about the
President is indecisive. He's too slow. He can't make a decision. He
can't do this. He can't do it. Correct? Is that correct?
But we don't look at the other part. We must give credit where
it's due.
Who put Edward kiswata into SARS Cyril lapoza,
that at the time, after 2019 floods, covid, civil unrest as
comprom and the floods, in case, in Edward kisswater, with 12 and a
half 1000 dedicated SaaS employees, took in 2 trillion Rand
in Texas. The first time in our history, it has never been done
before. What time six up a system that has been broken. When they
try to mess it up, they claim, and they started fixing it
up. The head of the SIU and advocate Andy motibi is a
dedicated, committed man. If he had more resources, he will catch
many more people, and he's been doing a great job. Same with the
Hawks, same with people in the Police Services.
I was in Free State in Bloemfontein, the police always
invite me. And it was the awards day. An African lady comes to the
front. There were like nine categories of awards, and she gets
this one award. In this one category. The award was Award. The
award was for catching corrupt cops. She was in a police function
getting an award from the police. What all the police inside there?
And the award was about catching corrupt, poor cops and getting
them locked up. She got the biggest applause from the police,
you see, because they all don't want to be labeled, because those
people take bullets to somebody else and they die, and we forget
their memory, we forget the service that they are given. The
bad ones are always around. We need to separate the bad ones from
the good ones. So a lot of good is being done. We just don't see it.
And the last two months, I've interacted on a lot of government,
politicians and civil servants, and they are trying really hard to
fix the system with everything against them. We need to do this
together. Hold hands with government. Come together as
private sector and the public. There's a big shortage of skills
in the government. They don't have the experience. A lot of them have
the heart. Let's take a fire and read the lady mayor that time when
I walked in, the mayor came to me and said, We don't know what to
do. She was honest. She was honest. She said, we didn't know
what to do. You admire that type of honesty. To say, look, okay, we
understand you don't have the skills. We will support you.
Nobody's going to say no. If person comes in honesty and say,
Look, we can't do it. Everybody can't do everything. And Mario and
his team, with a four by fours, took so many people out from the
houses and went along the sea to save people's lives.
The greatest heroes in the 2022 floods, in case again, were the
people themselves.
They didn't say, let's wait for disaster management. Wait for
this. Wait for that. No, they didn't do that. The moment the
water started rising and people in difficulty, the people told the
people at the bottom part of the river, Come up. Come to my house.
Come stay with me. And as they were coming up, they said, old
lady floating inside the house, they opened the door. They catch
an epolar out in Tonga at half past five in the afternoon on the
11th of April, 2022
the water rose eight meters in 45 minutes. And the man is standing
at the second floor of his house, and he says, Oops, the water is
coming. And shouts and all the ordinary people, these are not
divers, these are not experts in swimming. These are not qualified
disaster management people, ordinary South Africans came. They
didn't look at your face, your color, your religion, your race,
your status as South Africa needs help. As South Africa needs to
respond to another South African. We have that quality, we have that
capability. We can do that. That's why no problems insurmountable in
this country. We can fix anything. Because, like the people of 27
April, all of us have got it of working together. And
let's go that little further on that. Let me build on that. You
see something different happen in corporate South Africa when the
covid hit,
normally, the CSI guy calls you the first thing they asked you,
how many B points you're going to get? Will you get a tax
certificate? Will you get some right type in the media and then
give you some stupid project after that?
Corporate, CS, this, MDS, and the CEO of companies called during
covid
and said, forget all those things. Just tell us how we can save lives
and help our country when compassion comes into materialism,
you know, as a nation, we can't fail in 2021
when the civil unrest happened, who responded first? The guy whose
wealth was burnt, whose pellets were stolen, whose truck was
destroyed, whose highest there was taken, was all zippers lost.
Become a GP. I don't want to do it then, and I don't want to do it
now. I never vote, but I had to do it. It was no other alternative.
So I did it something I didn't want to do. I said, maybe later
I'll go back to study if an opportunity arises. So I moved to
marysburg in january 1986 to start a practice there. The same week
that I got there, an Afrikaner guy from Pretoria. Came from America
to South Africa, and he also came there. My neighbor came and talked
to me, and he said, I got this Afrikaner guy. He bought meat from
me. My name is abucha, but he got a medical problem. He needs a
doctor. So Mullah and I meet and Muller. I treat him quite a few
times. Then one day he says, Look, I think I know you long enough now
I'm going to tell you a
story. And he says, Mother says I was walking through the streets of
New York, because, as you know, I was in America, he tells me, and
that one day my soul fell empty. I had no spirit. I was depressed. I
was dejected. I didn't know the value of the meaning of life
anymore. I was just totally lost.
From the corner of my eye, I saw a man looking at me.
I looked towards the man I don't know this man. My heart tells me
to follow that man.
We have a teaching that when you uncertain about something, always,
if listen to your heart, not your head, your heart.
And he listened to his heart and he walked, and he followed this
man,
he said, The man walked into St John the Divine, a huge Church in
New York. I've been there on my way to 80 for a specific reason.
He said, When the man went in and I got close to him, I realized the
man was a Muslim,
a Turk,
a master of spirituality, a master of Sufism
in the church, the man made a zikr.
A zikr, in Islamic terminology is the recitation of God's names in
Arabic. So in all scriptures, you would say the one and only kind,
compassionate, merciful, Evolver, cherisher, nourisher, sustainer,
absolute, eternal. And so he goes.
And he said, as he made it, in the church, there were Jewish rabbi,
Christian priests, Hindu pundits, and other people of different
religions and people of no religion, and everybody joined in
the
zikr. That's absolutely amazing. You see, they tell us religion
causes conflict. Religion doesn't cause conflict. It's people who
move away from religion that caused conflict.
If the lawyer steals from the road accident fund, do you say the
legal profession is rotten?
You don't say that. Do you when doctors do malpractice? Do we shut
down the medical profession? We don't do that. Do we
we have to fix the individual? That's why I said look in the
mirror. There's nothing wrong with the system. So because the country
is controlled by people, we give titles, government, public,
private, civil, corporate. Yes, we give all those titles, but those
titles, or the entities, are made up of people. If the people is
messed up, the system will be messed up. So we need to focus on
fixing the people, to fix the country. So he tells me, after a
while, you need to go to Turkey. So I said, Mola, are you having
too much of this? He
said, what you mean? I said, in 1986 I haven't even seen Cape
Town. When am I going to see Turkey?
He said something very profound. He said, What God wills happens?
Mario, can tell you about the fire, about what God wills
happened. Listen to your story. One day you said, there's a time
and a place, and the time and place was August 91
my wife and I landed up in Turkey. It's a long story. Landed up in
Turkey What mother saw in New York. I saw in Istanbul, what is
so in a church? I saw in the Muslim holy place, the place of
Sufis, Jews, Christians, Hindus, Americans, Muslims, Russians,
people from Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Australia, New
Zealand, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, parts of
Austria, parts of Africa, Southeast Asia, all day in a
Muslim the holy place. But the situation was different. This was
post Gulf War.
During the Gulf War, around that time, Samuel Huntington spoke of a
clash of civilizations. The perception was east on one side,
west on the other side, and coming from an apartheid past really
didn't help. And when I walked inside there, when I saw this, I
was totally confused. The
spiritual teacher looks at my face and understood the power of
spirituality. They don't waste time. They address.
Is what's affecting you. He didn't ask me, where did you come from?
How was the flight? Where you staying? Did you eat something?
Normally, I also do that to a guest. What you're doing? Are you
okay? Do you need something? No, none of the above. His first
question to me was, what do you see? He read my soul. He knew I
was in turmoil in my head because I couldn't understand what was
going on here?
I said, I'm confused. Why all these people of different
religions, different countries, in a Muslim only place, and we just
fought with them, and we fought with them all over the world. What
are they doing here?
You said, My son, you see, right? Mankind is one single nation. You
said, Any Imam, Priest, Pandit, Sheik, Rabbi that preaches
violence, extremism, terrorism, Discord, conflict or disorder, is
not a man of God. Don't follow him. Any person that preaches
love, kindness, compassion and mercy. Is a man of God. Follow
him, the essence of humanity, the essence of people is love and
compassion. Show love and compassion to each other across
rich and poor, black and white, Indian color, and you will see
what a difference it will make to rebuild this country and to
rebuild the world. You.