Ibrahim Negm – Upholding Moderation & Resisting Radicalization Lectiure Part Three
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It's real
pleasure to, be with you,
in this 3 consecutive,
days
in which we are going to talk about
the issue of the day
or the issue of the hour
about
the nature
of our faith
and the challenge
of
radicalization
or
violent extremism
or
so many names were given to
describe this phenomenon.
East and West,
Last month
alone,
I was in Australia
and then India
and then
Brussels.
The same day
of the attack,
the grand Mufti and myself were
80
800 meters away
from the second blast in the, subway station,
800 meters away
in the heart of the European Parliament.
So
everybody knows we are living at difficult times.
And, I'm sure,
yesterday,
when candidate
Trump was around, everybody felt that
difficult times are ahead of us.
And as Muslims, we should not
get
so surprised
because of these difficult times. We are in
the Quran have been promised
over and over again that we will be
visited with hardships and difficulties.
As a matter of fact, the Koran beautifully
sums up
life as
an abode of testing.
It is a testing ground.
And man
was created in toil.
Man has to
work hard
and work at
odds and difficult circumstances,
so that
when he or she tries to please God
on earth,
he is promised
eternal happiness.
So we should not get surprised
by these difficult
occurrences
and difficult happenings and difficult events,
but we should maintain an attitude.
This is
what defines a Muslim.
It's that even though
we are living
at difficult times, but we should maintain an
attitude,
an attitude of positive
attitude, an attitude of hope,
and attitude of responsibility.
We should own the situation and we should
try
to discuss it among ourselves and see what
we can do together.
Can we do something
in the face of
so many challenges we are
encountering?
And the answer is always yes, we can
definitely
do something about these difficult
circumstances.
I believe that the first step that we
should do
is that we should
honestly
discuss among ourselves
what went wrong,
how we can
get back to the genuine,
correct,
authoritative
understanding
of our faith,
how we can address this phenomenon of radicalization
and extremism,
which
by way of honesty also, we have to
face it,
that a
large
part of the Muslim population,
unfortunately,
fell prey
to this disease of radicalization,
how we can immune
or immunize ourselves from falling prey to radicalization,
how can we win our children back
to the genuine understanding
of the faith.
There are so many
misconceptions
about our face,
misconceptions
from within, and misconceptions
from
without, from the external
factors.
And there is no end for misconception, because
if you misunderstand
a certain part of the faith, you will
make it a misconception.
And unfortunately,
at
this
fast
pace
of the social media outlets,
Internet,
communications,
misconceptions
are on the rise,
especially
about our faith.
So what we are trying to do in
these 3 consecutive
nights, inshallah,
1 hour each night,
we're going to openly
discuss
these questions
and hopefully I will try to be very
brief and try to give some
time for interaction.
And I would really
hope that each and every one of you
opens up to this
sensitive important issue.
If you have any questions,
of course there will be
no time to answer each and every question
about this important presentation,
but I
am committed
to take your questions and feedback
because
eventually
what we hope to do is we would
like to transform
this
compact
presentation
into a full fledged program
where we can
share it, it is replicated in other
mosques,
about
the the true nature of our faith and
the peril
or the threat of radicalization.
So I hope,
Insha'Allah,
that you also share this commitment
by
coming
to
to other sessions and also
interact and engage and discuss
it with your children
or with your friends
because as I said, this is the issue
of the time. We need
to own
to have this ownership of the situation,
honestly and transparently
discuss
what went wrong,
get to the bottom or the genuine
understanding
of our faith,
and immunize ourselves
and our
children
from the threat of radicalization.
So
let us start the the breakdown of of
the sessions will be
certain
bullet points.
Okay, so hopefully
tonight inshallah, this evening, we are going to
cover
5 points
that
essentially
lead
to
a genuine understanding
of our faith,
an authoritative
understanding of Islam.
And after we finish, there are 10 points,
10 bullet points. We'll
have 5 points
this evening, 5 points
tomorrow's evening, inshallah.
And the last
part
will be dedicated to dismantling
radical ideas.
Before
we
elaborate on
the 5 points,
this evening,
I just want to remind myself and to
you,
my brothers and sisters,
with 2 verses
from the Quran
which
define us as,
Muslim community.
This
is the,
the first
verse
chapter
3 verse 1
110
that says, you, meaning
the Muslim community, are the best community
brought
forth for the man.
And here, the Quran reminds us
that
there is essentially
goodness
This carries
some
thank you.
General
application. So Muslim community
shall be good.
There is goodness
in Muslim community.
This was true at the time of the
prophet, is true right now, and will be
true in the future. Even though
there are
imminent
problems,
stereotypes,
difficulties,
but still this there is goodness
in the Muslim community.
And this is supported again by one of
the Prophet's
teachings.
He said,
there is goodness in me and my community
till the end of time.
This goodness
is stipulated
by doing some homework.
We are
we are going to be good as long
as
we do certain things.
So the completion of the verse
says,
you are the best community
that was
raised in humankind
because you believe in God,
you enjoying what is good, and you forbid
what is evil.
So these are the criteria of goodness.
And part of enjoying what is good and
forbidding what is evil is that we have
to apply to ourselves first.
We have to see, and
honestly see
what has gone wrong.
So that
when we try
to
better ourselves and better our communities and better
our families,
we
become
true
to the criteria set by this verse.
We are
good as long as
we do some positive work,
as long as we rely on God.
Because regardless
of the difficulties and dangers
and problems we are having,
we have to be assured
that
God or Allah is still in control.
God is in control.
Regardless of the chaotic situations
in many parts of the world,
God is in control.
You believe in God. You believe in Allah.
That's the first step.
And the second step
is that we correct
what went wrong. We try if we slip,
if we run into
obstacles
and problems,
we
try to correct ourselves.
The second verse,
this is again a very important verse
regarding the theme
that I choose
upholding
moderation
and resisting
radicalization,
where Allah says in chapter 2
verse 100143,
thus we have made you
a justly, balanced community.
In Arabic.
So this moderation is not an option.
It is not something that,
all of a sudden we decided to
adopt.
This is a divine mandate
for Muslims, that you are a community of
moderation.
Who
is declaring this statement?
Who?
It's you.
Allah is declaring it. You
are a community of moderation.
So this moderation is not
a matter of choice.
It is actually an imperative. It is a
mandate from
that you are a community of moderation,
that you never resort to extremes
as a community.
But it doesn't mean that each and everybody
will resort to this
way of moderation.
Indeed,
few
fringes, few radicals
will resort to extremes.
So we have a global we have a
collective mandate.
For those who
go to extremes,
we have a mandate to bring them
back to the middle way,
to the path of moderation.
This is the mission statement for Muslims,
that the majority of the Muslim community
naturally
is on the middle path.
Few of them
go to extremes,
we should not let them
on the extremes, rather we have a mandate,
we have a homework
as a community
to win them over, to
win them back to the middle path.
With this,
we are we are going to start
our 5 points
for,
this evening,
and
they are bullet points. Of course, they will
require further
explanation,
but we are going to try, as I
have said, we are going to try to
highlight these bullet points and leave
the,
the discussion and the interaction
to the question and answer session.
So the first point, if you have this
write up,
I wrote
as Muslims I'm sorry. As
Muslims. It says a Muslims. As Muslims
as Muslims,
we should not lose
sight of the lofty goals of all religions
and faith traditions.
Okay?
And I'm going to explain what
are the lofty goals of all religions and
faith traditions
as mentioned
in the Quran,
and as well as the higher purposes of
Islamic law.
What are
the lofty goals
or the higher goals of religions as perceived
in the Quran?
There are
about 12 verses
which were
read over and over.
You'll find them in the Quran. Over and
over, they'll talk about
3
higher goals
of
Islam
as a faith
tradition, as well
as all religions.
Three higher goals.
The first is worshiping God.
So all religions
came to assert
the importance
of worshiping God.
As a matter of fact,
this is the
purpose
why Allah put us on this earth,
is to worship.
Okay?
And,
of course, we can talk about worship and
its meaning, and it is very inclusive,
it is not just about prayer or fasting
or making pilgrimage, it is actually each and
every movement
that you do
to please
God, that is the first condition,
and that is done in accordance
with faith,
what Islam is all about, what faith is
all about.
These are the 2 conditions. If you do
them, in each and every movement,
you are getting reward
because you are actually executing
and implementing
worship,
Ibadan.
So, as a matter of fact,
we are here
to
discuss things about our faith.
If we are here
sincerely for this purpose
and we are doing it in a manner
that is pleasing God, we are going to,
you
know, execute
the very meaning of our battle.
Okay?
So
number 1 is our battle.
This is something that we all know.
But look at the other 2.
Okay? The other 2
lofty goals of all religions
is
Tasgia, and Tasgia means to purify yourself,
purification
of the Self.
This is a higher goal of all religions.
So we are not just talking about
formalities,
we are talking about
inner purification,
that each and everyone
need to work
with his or herself.
Because
if you cleanse what is inside,
the other job is going to be easier.
Okay?
So you have to fight your own ego.
You have to cleanse yourself
from all bad feelings.
You have to fill
because this process of tazkir,
and again, this is something that we can
talk about for days days,
it involves
2 things, taking out bad
stuff
and putting good stuff in your heart.
Okay?
So
this process
is very integral
to all faith traditions,
particularly
Islam. And unfortunately,
because we are
talking about the theme of moderation and
extremism,
unfortunately, part of the reasons why
extremism
is on the rise because of the neglect
of this important factor,
of working
hard on yourself.
And this, as a matter of fact,
if you if you look at one of
the
most important
hadith,
prophetic teachings of the Prophet, that was
given to us.
Okay?
You know the famous Hadith of Jibril.
He came and asked the Prophet
4 questions.
The first question is,
what is
Islam?
1st is, what is Islam?
Okay. And he answered by saying the 5
pillars.
Islam is to testify that there is no
God
but Allah,
and that Muhammad
is one of the messengers
of God,
is to pray 5 times a day,
is to
to give alms,
number 4, to fast
during the month of Ramadan,
and number 5, to go to pilgrimage if
you are capable of making the journey.
That is the outward expression of Islam.
But there is a higher level.
So the second question was about,
what is
imam? What is belief?
So he started
telling
the person,
Sayyidina Jibril, that belief is to believe in,
first
Yes. Number 2, the angels and the last
day
on the books, messengers, and the Kaaba, the
predestination
that everything is predestined by God.
These are the 6 pillars of faith.
And yet, there is a another higher level.
And this is mind me,
this is a level that we
do not talk about much. And this level
of,
the Arabic word is ghasan.
To feel the presence of God.
To feel that Allah is watching over us.
That's the level
that is meant by purification.
To have the consciousness
of Allah.
That he is monitoring you all the time,
that you ought to develop
awe
and fear of him all the time.
This is purification.
And the third aspect that is also less
talked about,
the third goal is Umran.
And I prefer to
retain the Arabic word because
there is not one single
equivalent
for this word in English. What does Umran
means?
Umran.
Umran
means
development,
construction,
positiveness.
It means
responsibility,
vice guarantee.
It means
contribution.
It means
building.
It means
bettering
the life,
making the life better,
habitable.
This
all these meanings are contained in the Arabic
word,
Umrah.
In other words,
one of the higher goals
of faith of Islam,
and all, as I said, we're talking about
faith traditions,
is that a human being, when Allah puts
him on
earth, he is obliged,
he is commanded
to contribute
positively
to make this life
better,
to develop
the life,
to do some
work, to make it a better,
a bold
for human being.
The
single
objective of the person that he is here
just to worship God,
so he goes to prayer all the time,
to fast, and he every other month, he
goes to make Umrah, and that's it.
That is a crooked understanding
of what faith is all about.
Okay? So
1 third
1 third of this faith
is this
shared responsibility
to constructively
develop the Earth.
Okay?
To do some positive work
so that you can make
life on this earth
better
in the sight of God.
Okay?
These
3 higher goals,
unfortunately,
were neglected in the minds of Muslims.
And this has caused
these phenomena
of
extremist ideologies and extremist talk, rhetoric.
Okay?
In our engagement and in our effort
to come to the middle path, in our
effort to rediscover the genuine Islam,
we should remember these higher goals.
Worship
and then
work on yourself, purify
yourself.
And what are you going
or what
are you doing
to make this life better?
What kind of positive work you are putting?
Each one according to his or her ability.
Okay? Physicians, they are trying to do some
positive work
to respond to the ailment of people.
Engineers, they are building
and expanding.
Religious
scholars, they are teaching and imparting knowledge
to the people, and so on and so
forth.
And we cannot ridicule
or belittle any kind of work.
Each and every
each and every one of us needs
each other, some way or another.
So
someone who devotes his entire life
to worship alone
is a crooked
understanding of what faith is all about.
So
these are the 2 the 3
higher goals
and, of course, each and every one
of these higher goals is supported by verses
from the Quran.
There is another aspect also.
It's called Maqas of the Sharia,
the higher purposes of Islamic law.
And the scholars have talked about 5 higher
purposes of Islamic
law.
Preservation of life.
Life is so sacred.
Life of a human being, we're not talking
about
Muslim
blood or non Muslim
blood. Human life.
It's it's in Arabic, nafs, human soul,
is sacred.
And the highest
objective of Islamic law, of Sharia law,
is the preservation
of this human life.
To such an extent,
I will share with you just one prophetic
teaching.
Maybe it will be surprising
for some of you,
but this is how Islam
asserts
the sacredness and sanctity
of the human life.
So one time, the Prophet
was
going around
the Kaaba.
Okay?
And all of a sudden, he stopped.
He was walking, so he stopped, and he
looked at
the Sacred House.
And looking at the sacred house is a
form of worship.
Okay?
So he looked at it
and said,
by Allah,
I know
that you are Okay.
So
Okay.
So this is the most sacred place.
Yeah. And our hearts,
whenever we talk about Kaaba,
you know,
it tries to jump out of yearness and
longness
to go there.
And now the Prophet is saying that that
human blood
is more sacred in the sight of God
than
this
sacred place.
Okay? So all
rulings
of shari'an came primarily
to preserve
the human life.
So
all these ridiculous actions and barbaric actions of
killing people and and,
suicide bombing,
it is,
again,
a crooked understanding
of
the shari'a and Deen.
Because because
even in terms of priority,
okay,
scholars discuss
these 5
higher purposes of Islamic law, and they prioritize
them.
Number 1 is the preservation of the human
life.
It comes
before each and everything.
The sacredness
of the human life.
Preservation
of the human intellect.
Intellect is very important
because when we pray, when we do each
and everything, we need the intellect. We need
to preserve the intellect.
And then preservation of freedom of religion.
And then the preservation of family relations. Family
is so important
in Islam.
And then the preservation of private property.
Each and every action of Muslims,
individuals,
groups, communities,
each and everything
has to bear in mind
these 5 higher purposes.
Are we complying
with these 5 higher purposes?
Are we abiding by these 5 higher purposes?
Or are we negating
them
by one way or another?
So as Muslims,
we need
to measure
our
actions
with
the three goals of religions
and the 5 higher purposes of Islamic law.
So to have this
sort of
vision and mission,
it will keep us on the track.
So
any actions that we do, individually or collectively,
we have to bring
this mental
vision
in front of us.
Are we true
to these 3 higher goals
and these 3
5 principles or not?
That is number
1.
I mentioned here anything
that goes against these principles is antithetical
to the spirit of Islamic law. And this,
by the way, is not my wording.
These are the wording
of eminent scholars,
one generation after another.
They said
that each and everything that goes against
these three goals and 5 higher principles
or purposes
of Islam law is not part
of Sharia even though some people would argue
this,
but it is not.
Anything
that
sheds the blood
of a human being is not part of
Sharia.
Even though you will find a lot of
people arguing for this,
there are certain systems and rules
within
the governments,
within
shari'ah,
like the court system, for example,
that
in case somebody kills someone,
these are the proper channels. But individuals cannot
do it themselves.
Okay? And I I know that,
some of you might have a lot of
questions, but
hold on.
We'll go to the second point. If you
have this, I'm going just to read it.
Quran
represents
the living miracle for Muslims.
The living miracle for Muslims.
Muslims. Living miracle. So it is not a
book about antiquity. It is not an archaic
book.
It is a book
that was given to prophet Muhammad, peace be
upon him,
to be a guide manual
for Muslims until the end of time.
Now,
this is a very important document
If it
If it is a book of guidance, I
need to approach
Quran
in a proper way so that I can
take it
as a guidance manual
for myself and my family and my community
prophet,
peace be upon him,
and the subsequent generations of Muslims.
They did a lot of homework
in developing
disciplines and sciences
to
maximize
the benefit
from the Quran.
Some
scholars
counted
these disciplines and these sciences
to be 32 sciences
that were developed
to
benefit the Muslim communities
on how best
to get the guidance
from the Quran.
K?
Now I'm talking about
a very
tricky problem here.
Okay?
What happened,
with the self acclaimed
Islamic State and other
groups, extremist
groups,
is that they
directly
went to
isolated
individual verses from the Quran.
They opened the Quran,
and
they go to a certain verse,
taking it out from its contexts.
They do not have any knowledge
of these
many disciplines and many sciences
that were developed
to help
Muslims
understand the Quran
effectively
and properly.
And he said,
well,
Allah
said in the Quran
to kill
non Muslims.
Because in chapter so and so, God says
so and
so. Okay.
This is
a crime.
This is
a crime
that is done to the Quran.
A crime
that is done to the Quran.
Because
they have neglected
all of the efforts that were done,
even with the Prophet himself.
Because one of the mandates of the prophets
that was given to him by God is
to explain the Quran.
We have revealed onto you this Quran so
that you explain
explain
the Quran
to the people.
Explain the Quran.
And
the scholars said that the best interpreter
of the Quran
is
the Prophet himself.
The best interpreter.
He did not give
the linguistic
meanings of each and every verse,
but his life pattern,
his guidance,
is the best
interpretation
of the Quran.
Okay?
So if you want to see
the best
translation
of the Quran, look at the Prophet himself
and see. Did the prophet kill
non Muslims or not?
When he went
to his hometown, Mecca,
victoriously,
what did he do?
Forgive. He forgave? Yes, he did. He could
have
killed them all,
but he forgave.
So
what I am saying is that
we need to benefit. If we want to
go to the Quran and understand
the Quran, we need to benefit from the
so many sciences,
so many disciplines,
Muslim scholars have developed
over the centuries,
and they become
standard words
for approaching the Quran in a better way,
in an effective way.
Okay?
Examples of these sciences?
As Bab al Nuzoor.
The causes of the revelation of certain verses.
So there is a historical background.
In order to understand the implications
of this verse, or the who
were the audience
of this verse, you need to
look into
the causes of revelation.
Okay?
When the Prophet, peace be upon him, said,
and this is a legitimate statement, this is
an authentic
statement,
I was ordered
to fight
with the people.
Umerto and oqatil al naz. I was ordered
to fight with the people.
Now these
lunatics and these extremists,
they say, I was ordered to fight with
the people,
so this is a license to fight and
kill everybody.
But if you
look at
this Hezbollah nazul, the head the causes of
revelation,
you will find
that the people here meant the hostile
people
who lived at the time of the prophet
in Mecca.
So this is an important
concession
that will clarify
the whole statement.
So the Prophet, peace be upon him, was
not talking about their people in general.
This was a historical
reference to certain group of people
who were very hostile to his message, who
persecuted him and persecuted
his companions.
But even though
he said this,
he never
was an aggressor.
Rather,
all of his his
fights
were in defense
of
Medina.
So all of these
fighting occurred at his hometown.
Okay? So the causes of revelation is extremely
important.
Katayi and Damni.
Katayi means definitive.
Definitive,
conclusive.
Amzani
means probable.
So, for example,
when the Quran says, kulu washrabu walatusrifu.
Kulu washrabu,
eat and drink
and do not
be extravagant.
What is the meaning? Is the command here
is for
imperative?
Or it is
just a general command that we may or
may not take it.
Certain orders in the Quran are definitive and
conclusive.
Certain others are not definitive and conclusive.
Which is which?
Who determines it?
The extremists?
I doubt. They don't have any
background in this
special subject. And so many
other aspects,
I will not deal with into.
I wrote here, while most of the Quran
are geared towards general readership,
indeed many verses
need to be understood by making use
of these many sciences.
The Quran
also should be understood holistically.
I cannot just single out one verse and
say, the Quran says so and so.
Look at other
verses about the same subject
in order to
be able
to say this is the Qur'anic guidance regarding
this.
The best interpreter of the Quran is the
example of our prophet Muhammad, peace be upon
her.
This is very important.
Look at the example
and the pattern and the life of the
prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa sallam.
And this is the best translation
of the Qur'an.
3rd point.
Sunnah, which is the example of our Prophet,
explains the Qur'an.
Sunnah
explains the Qur'an.
You have to
also put this in your mind.
Sunnah cannot
go against the Qur'an.
The role of the sunnah, it explains
the Qur'an.
Sunnah, in terms of authority
and in terms of authenticity.
Each
prophetic
statement,
when we look at each hadith,
we should look
at it from 2 perspectives.
Does this hadith
hold authority?
Which means I am obliged
or I am commanded
to do
what is included
in this hadith,
and the other question,
is this statement authentic or not? These are
the
statement.
I will just give you,
a taste
of the discussion.
Of course, we will not be able to
exhaust
talking about this.
In terms of authority,
in terms of authority,
am I bound
to do
what is included in each and every hadith
or not?
I will tell you simply,
this is a vast
topic, a vast theme
that you need to grapple with many issues
because
the prophet, peace be upon
him, when he said
or did
or approved
certain things,
you need to distinguish
and please mind me.
Okay?
I know it's a working
day, but,
this is very important.
We need to distinguish
whether the Prophet,
peace be upon him, uttered
or did or approved such
teaching is imparting to his community.
In terms of
legislative
authority
or non legislative
authority, I hope I'm
not,
complicating
the discussion.
But very simply,
I will just give you examples.
When
we learned
that the Prophet
loved certain type of food,
or
certain type of perfume,
Or, he walked in a certain manner. Or,
he ate in a certain manner.
Or, he slept in a certain manner.
Okay?
We need to see whether the prophet
was uttering
these statements
in terms
of
setting
guidelines
to his community,
or was he talking about certain things
as a human being?
And who is going to determine
which is which?
Okay.
In terms of the clothes
that the prophet used to wear, for example,
okay, certain colors, certain
Style. Style,
are we bound to
to do the same?
Okay.
In terms of the things that were peculiar
to him,
you know,
the manner
how the Prophet kept Roza, kept the fast?
You know, usually,
especially in the long hours of the summer,
when the time comes,
we eat.
Okay?
We start with dates and milk and water
and stuff like that, and then we have
our dinner.
Okay? And then maybe after that we have
snack, and then after that we have suhoor.
You know the prophet
used to keep continuous
fasts.
He never ate
or drank.
I'm talking about, of course,
his normal way of doing things.
His normal way of doing
things. He did not do this. Some other
instances
Yeah, he drank and he and we learn
from his Sunnah about dates and everything,
from the way he did. But
in other circumstances,
he never had any food or drink
at all.
And he forbid his community
from following him,
and told them, do not follow me in
this because Allah gives me food and drink.
Okay?
So there are certain things that were done
peculiar
to the prophet that we cannot
Copy. Follow him, we cannot copy him.
There are certain things that were done
from the prophet as a human being,
a human being.
He likes certain food,
okay, in a certain way.
He
likes to do certain things
as a human being.
And then, other
circumstances,
he was setting guidelines.
He was guiding his community.
Which is which?
This is a very technical
discussion. And as I said about the Quran,
I say again
that Muslim scholars have developed
sciences and disciplines
for Muslims
to be able to understand
these prophetic teachings in a better way.
In terms of authenticity,
many
disciplines and sciences were developed
to make sure
that
what is attributed to the Prophet, peace be
upon him, actually he uttered, or he did,
or he approved
these things.
You can trace it back to the prophet.
We need
to make use
of these sciences in order
to
understand our Prophet
better. Otherwise,
we will be misquoting him.
We will be misquoting him, as
the other
radicals and extremists
are actually doing.
There are calls
to do a way to trash sunnah.
There are people now, and they are very
active by the way,
to say the problems came from the sunnah,
so we are better off
trashing it
and we don't we just need the Quran.
This is a very, again, very crooked,
extreme understanding
of our faith. We cannot do away
with our sunnah. The issue is,
we need to approach
the sunnah and hadith
in a proper way, so that we can
get the benefit
from them.
Now,
this is something that will be surprising
for you also,
this point.
Okay. Let me quiz you.
Okay?
How many Hagis
are in the Sunni collection?
How many?
Of 60,000.
60,000.
That's the answer. About 60,000
if we drop.
You mean I reckon? Yes.
There are 60,000
if we drop
the repetitions.
Okay?
We have 60,000
hadith in the Sunni collection.
Okay?
Out of these
60,000
Hagiz, we have only
2,000
that talk about do's and don'ts, about legal
issues, about matters of law.
Okay?
And
58
talk about ethics,
ahlag,
etiquettes,
interactions.
Okay?
Now,
percentage wise,
it's about we are talking about
5%
that talk about legal issues,
about how to pray, how to fast, how
to do this, how to do that,
those and those.
And
95%
of hadith
talk about
ethics, moral ethics,
how to be a good
human being?
Okay?
This is extremely important.
Extremely important
as we are battling with these
phenomena of radicalism
and formalism and literalism,
to
bring this point to such people and tell
them 95%
of the teachings of the prophet
revolved around
being ethical,
being honest,
having good manners,
having good hearts,
sharing,
caring, all these beautiful
aspects.
And also, a similar
percentage is with the Quran.
If you look at the Quran, how many
verses? 6000
233 verses.
Out of which, only 300 verses
talk about 'those and don'ts' legal issues.
And then,
the other remaining verses talk about ethics.
That is infused with correct understanding.
This is what the Quran is all about.
This is what the hadith
is all about. It's not about formalism, it
is not about literalism.
Essentially, it's about core values,
core ethics
that we need to inculcate,
without which
Islam would be just restricted to a number
of formalities.
I will skip examples
of how people
miscode
our Prophet
but I will just jump.
How are we doing with the time?
It is We have It is 10 to
9. Okay. We have about 10 minutes. 7
minutes. Okay.
Quickly, the 4th point
says and
this is again,
reinforces
the other
three points.
I will just read it and comment,
on it.
Muslim scholars
have developed very rich legacy of classical works
in many fields of Islamic knowledge,
works on Hafsir, Hadith, Aqeeda, Sharia, faq, comparative
religions,
and many, many others.
Okay?
What should we do with this rich legacy
as Muslims living in this time and age?
This is
a very critical question. And, again, this question,
we can,
delve into it,
and we can talk about it for days
days.
Because we have to admit
the fact that
most of what the terror groups are saying
about certain
incidents
in
Islamic history,
okay, are found in books
that were written centuries ago.
They called certain
demands and certain
leaders
that they did this, they did that,
and, indeed, they are found in these works.
So some
reformers,
they
are advancing the claim that, again, with the
sunnah, we need
to trash each and everything, and we start
from the scratch.
So what is the best way
to deal with
this legacy
of 100
of 1000 works?
Okay?
One of the richest legacies in the human
civilizations.
Look at, for example, how Muslims interacted
with the Book of Allah,
and they came up with these many, many
volumes
and many, many
books
about
how to understand the Quran.
Similar works were done
to
sunnah,
Islamic history,
theology,
and name it.
What is the best way to deal with
this rich legacy?
First of all,
here are some
bullet points.
First of all, we should we should not
regard
this legacy as sacred.
We should not regard it as sacred.
This is a human product.
Okay?
This is a human product and
not sacred.
We also
should say thank you to
the many scholars that they have written
such elaborate
elaborative
works
about
Islam and about Quran and about Hadith.
They did their homework.
They did
their homework.
They did not do
our homework. They did their homework because they
were living
at such times and circumstances
and contexts
and social, political, name it. They did their
homework, and they did
fairly a good job.
So Muslim scholars did their homework to relate
Islam
to the lived reality
at their time.
They produced solutions
and alternatives for their congregations,
their
their,
not ours.
The third point here, we should engage in
a similar process.
We, meaning Muslims of this time and age,
we should engage in a similar process to
relate Islam to our lived reality,
to our lived reality.
We can make use
now, this is again a very important point.
Now what can we do with these massive
works
of tafsir and hadith and dhik and aqid
and
we can make use of the methodologies
within the methodologies.
Earlier,
scholars have applied
and not sink into their issues,
which were shaped by their contexts at the
time.
Methodology
the keyword is
apply
or make use of
the methodology
they have applied,
but not sink into
the little issues
of their time, because these issues
do not relate to us anymore.
I will just give you a funny
example of what I'm
saying here.
Now,
do you know the Arabic word for coffee?
Coffee?
Kawwa.
The Arabic word for coffee is kawwa.
Now,
I'll ask you to do a little bit
of homework.
Go and search
the linguistic meaning
of the word the Ka'wah in Arabic.
You know,
one of the meanings of coffee
is liquor.
One of the meanings
of Ka'wah is liquor,
And liquor is
forbidden in Islam.
It's white.
Okay?
So this is one of the meanings.
Now, if you and you know, if you'll
read about books of fiqh,
you will find a statement that coffee is
prohibited
in Islam.
Why it is prohibited?
Because it is one of the names of
liquor,
which is prohibited.
Nobody
had the audacity
to taste it and see
the the content of
coffee.
Except 300 years later,
they actually discovered
that instead of
putting the mind to sleep,
it actually alerts
the mind.
And this was actually it is I'm I'm
I'm not making it up. This is a
true story
that happened in Al Azhar.
The students, when they drink coffee, they become
more alert.
And that's why they changed the rulings.
So what I'm telling you,
this legacy is full of odds and full
of things that do not relate to us.
We cannot just go buy books,
but,
again, we should not trash
this legacy. This legacy is very important
for Muslims.
We need to adopt the methodology.
The fact that they did their homework, they
tried to find solutions,
and similarly, we need to engage in a
similar process.
We are bombarded with many moral issues nowadays,
with many legal issues nowadays.
We need to
bring up a cadre of the scholars to
probe these issues
with
the three goals
of religion and the five goals of of
Islamic law in mind,
to make religion relevant
to the reality
of people.
And the last statement,
this is a specialized
project. It is not just the work of
laymen
or laywomen.
This is the work of scholars.
And also in terms of honesty,
we have
been miserably
failing,
miserably failing
in bringing up this category of scholars
who will bring back
Islam
to the left reality.
So we'll conclude here, and
My dear beloved brothers and sisters,
first of all,
let us congratulate each other
for
the coming of a blessed month,
the month of Rajab.
The prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam,
when he used to spot
the crescent,
heralding the beginning of the month of Rajab,
he used to raise
his hand
to Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
with a prayer that we should also
say.
He used to say, Allahumma bariklana fiyrajabal
Ramadan.
You Allah,
bless
the month of Rajab for us,
bless the month of Sha'aban for us,
and
make us live
through
the month of Ramadan.
So in this
prayer,
we know that the month of Rajab is
a blessed month.
And with the coming of the month of
Rajab,
we anticipate
the coming of
the blessed month of Ramadan.
So just make
this
dua, this is the 1st day
of the month of Rajab,
and ask Allah, Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala, to extend
your life so that you could witness
another Ramadan,
another
blessed guest
of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala. And no matter
how many Ramadans
we have in our lifetime,
we will not have enough of Ramadans.
So just yearn,
long for, ask
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala to extend your life
so you could witness
the blessed months of Ramadan.
Say, Ameen. Ameen.
My dear brothers and sisters,
the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam taught us
that the purpose
of
the Khutbah or the sermon
of Jumu'ah
is to discuss
community affairs,
to
instruct
Muslims
how
best
to apply
their faith,
to
discuss
ways how to
get closer to Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.
And indeed,
we are
facing as an Ummah,
whether we're talking about this part of the
world or globally,
we are facing
imminent
challenges
as Muslims.
So naturally,
the forum
in which we should
discuss
these challenges
and discuss ways
of
overcoming these challenges
from the perspective
of our faith,
from the perspective
of of the Quran and
the the beloved
guide, Sayyidina Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa sallam.
Hence, I'm going to share with you
few points how to effectively,
number 1, and adequately,
number 2,
respond to the many challenges
that we have as an Ummah in
America and also
globally
are facing.
Of course,
each and every one of you, brothers and
sisters,
know
the magnanimity
of what we are going through.
And also, we know
that as Muslims, as good practicing Muslims,
we should not bury our heads in the
sand.
This is
a passive
response
and this is not an Islamic response.
Rather, we should rise
to meet the different challenges
we are experiencing
and to tap into
our
guidance
to see
what we can do together
as individuals
and as
community
to respond effectively
to the many challenges
we are having.
And you agree with me my brothers and
sisters,
that Muslims,
again whether we're talking about
America or globally,
have the lion's shares
of
the current
problems and difficulties
and challenges
that we have
right now.
And I'm proposing,
my dear brothers and sisters,
5
points
that will help us
meet
what we are experiencing
in a positive,
proactive,
effective,
adequate
manner.
The first point
relates
to the fact that as Muslims,
we should not be
surprised
of
having tough times and difficulties and trials and
tribulations.
All of these difficulties and tough times should
not come as a surprise for us.
Why?
Because we have been promised
over and over
in the Quran and in the prophetic teaching
that Muslims,
indeed human beings,
shall experiencing shall experience
tough times and difficulties,
trials and tribulations and tests.
We have been promised in the Quran
that will
we shall be visited
with trials and tribulations.
This is a fact of life.
And when Allah
summed up the very purpose
of our existence
on this planet Earth.
He said
in Surah Tabarak
So that
He, subhanahu wa ta'ala,
test you.
This is
the purpose
for which Allah
has put us on this planet Earth,
to test us.
So life
on this planet Earth is a testing ground.
And each and every one of us
shall have his or her
shares of tests,
trials, and tribulations.
Even prophets? Yes, even prophets, as a matter
of fact,
they carry
the biggest
burden of
or shares of trials and tests,
even though
they are regarded as the chosen people
of Allah
Allah,
but
the prophet
had had
his shares
of trials and tribulations and tests.
It is a fact of life,
my dear brothers and sisters,
that we experience
difficulties and hardships and tough times.
And it depends on our response.
Our response
as Muslims,
which moves me to the second point,
is that we should take ownership
of the situations we are experiencing
and see
what we can do.
Now my dear brothers and sisters, I just
want you
to reflect and reflect deeply
about
what I'm going to share with you from
the Quran.
I'm referring
to how Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala
and please pay attention with me, my dear
brothers and sisters,
because this is a focal point in the
Khutba.
Allah
in Surah Maryam,
he
recounted
the story
of Maryam
giving birth
to Sayyid Naias
salam.
And
when
Lady Mary,
Sayyidah Maryam alaihi salam,
was experiencing
the childbirth,
Allah instructed
her.
She was hungry, she
was at a fragile
situation.
Sisters would relate
to this state
after giving birth
to a child.
She would be very
fragile.
But nonetheless,
if she is looking for food, for nourishment,
she got to do something
about this situation.
Was Allah incapable
of providing
her food and drink?
He was He is capable of doing this,
but nonetheless,
Allah instructed
her:
Allah is instructing her at this fragile,
fragile state
to shake,
and
now pay attention to the words,
to shake the trunk
of the palm tree.
Now mind me, my dear brothers and sisters,
if I pick 10
strong young people
to shake the trunk
of the palm tree,
it is very likely that they will not
be able to do it.
But Allah is instructing
her to do this.
Why?
Because
she got to do
her homework
to resolve this situation.
When she
put her blessed hand
on the trunk of the palm tree,
it shook
and
fresh dates came to her.
That is the moral
lesson, my dear brothers and sisters.
It is not enough just to sit on
the janamaz
and pray that
you Allah help Muslims, you Allah help us,
you Allah.
Of course,
dua is a powerful tool,
but Allah is asking
us to do
the extra step,
which is based on our
limited
capacities,
we are required to do something.
And if you sincerely,
like Lady Mary
if you sincerely
try to do one step,
Allah will take 10 steps to you.
That is
the the shared
collective
responsibility
and accountability
that our beloved Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam
instructed us in the famous hadith
called hadith as safina,
the hadith of the ship,
the hadith of the boat.
And for those of you who know the
hadith,
which is authentic
Hadith
in the collection of Imam Bukhari,
that you will find
the example that our beloved Prophet sallallahu alaihi
wa sallam
drew for us
is very relevant to our lived reality as
Muslim Ummah,
which is
we are collectively
accountable
and responsible
for our affairs.
We have to look after each other, we
have to protect each other, we should not
let
people
to draw
or to dig a hole in the ship,
because if we let them do this,
we will all drown,
we will all sink.
That is the moral
of the hadith.
We need to look after each other, we
need to protect each other,
we need to work together.
Whether we
like each other or don't like each other,
the fact is that we are in one
ship,
we are in one boat.
We have
to work together
in order to reach to the shore of
safety.
If we picker and fight
with each other,
the thing is that we will all drown.
My third point,
my beloved brothers and sisters,
relates
to
how the Prophet
was handling
persecution
and tough times
in his early days in Mecca.
He maintained,
and here is the keyword,
hope and optimism.
And he asked
his companions
to maintain this positive
attitude.
I hear, especially a lot of young people
from my country,
they say now, you know, we're giving up.
There's no
hope
about doing anything.
And this is, my dear brothers and sisters,
this is the worst
feeling
that we could ever
have.
Feeling of despair.
And Allah
in the Quran liked
likened
despair
to disbelief.
Very powerful.
Surely,
the people
who despair
from the mercy of Allah
are the ones who are disbelievers.
This is very powerful.
My dear brothers and sisters,
never ever
resort to despair.
Know for sure, my dear brothers and sisters,
that Allah
has put you on this planet Earth
for a purpose.
You cannot individually change the world.
You're asked
to do what you can do
in your ability.
You cannot
pass the buck.
We cannot pass the buck anymore.
We have
to take ownership,
and while we are trying to do
our homework,
we should be hopeful.
We should have this positive attitude
that Allah will never put to waste
the good deeds of the righteous.
This is what Allah
has re emphasized over and over in the
Quran.
Allah will not put to waste
the good deeds of the righteous people.
Just hammer
this in your mind
as you walk through
these tough difficult times.
The the little good that you do
will never ever put to waste.
It shall bear fruits, my dear brothers and
sisters,
whether we are around to see the fruits
or
we are no more.
The promise of Allah is
that He will
make
even little good deeds bear the fruits.
And he,
in in in a hadith
likened
just
one small charity that we give.
The hadith says half a date.
It is nothing. It is a penny.
You will see this half a date
on the day of judgment, a day in
which each and every one of us will
be looking even for half a good deed.
You will see it as in the hadith
like the mountain Uhud.
Allah will take care of it.
We are just responsible
for doing the homework,
but the question is: are we doing our
homework
or we are just passing the buck?
You know, we this is the leadership is
responsible, the Imam is responsible, I I don't
have to do anything.
Now with the
unfolding
drama of Islamophobic
rhetoric,
with the rise of extremism,
with tensions and conflicts,
we have to take ownership and do
what we can do
as human beings.
My
last point, my dear brothers and sisters,
again,
if you don't get anything from this Khutba,
listen to this point.
Allah
is instructing our beloved Prophet in the Quran
now.
Allah is instructing our Prophet
And therefore,
because this is a living guidance for humanity,
Allah is talking to us also.
In the verse,
for those of you who would like to
go and look
up these verses,
it's the last two verses of Surah Al
Hajj.
Surah Al Hajj, last two verses
where Allah is instructing our beloved Prophet sallallahu
alaihi wa sallam. And those of you who
don't know, Surah Al Hajj is one of
the last
revelations
in Mecca times in which
the the persecution
got intensified.
So Allah is instructing our beloved prophet sallallahu
alaihi wa sallam.
We know
that what they say, what the polytheists
say
hurt your feelings.
So, glorify your Lord
and be from among the sajideen who prostrate
to Allah a lot
and worship Allah
till that which is certain comes to you.
And that which is certain meaning death comes
to you.
So there are 3 moral lessons in these
two verses.
The first one,
it is very human
to feel
upset,
to feel morally down,
to feel heartbroken,
because of these so many
tough times we are going through.
We are paying
for the loss of lives, we are paying
for
injustices,
and grievances,
and tensions,
and problems, and islamophobic
rhetoric.
So many things are so tough
and it hurts our feelings. It's very human.
It's very human and Allah is talking to
our beloved Prophet
So it is very human to feel
the agony
of these challenges.
Number 1. And then Allah is instructing Prophet,
Allah is instructing our beloved Prophet Muhammad
and therefore all of us
to
go back to the spiritual
reserve
that we have.
And the spiritual reserve that we have is
Allah.
Rely on Allah.
Ask Allah.
Ask Allah for help.
Better your relationship with Allah.
That's a very powerful tool.
And then
commitment.
Serve Allah.
Allah is your number one priority
until that which is certain comes to you.
Commitment.
Commitment
to serve Allah,
to be on the right path, to do
what you can do
as human beings
for Islam and for what we are going
through,
till that which is certain comes to you.
So rely on the spiritual reserve,
and the spiritual reserve that does not end
is Allah
This is my message to you, my dear
brothers and sisters.
Don't get despair.
Don't get
overwhelmed,
but what by what we are going through.
Rather,
take ownership of this situation.
Try as human beings,
and I'm saying as human beings,
to do what you can do
for
these problems and for the sake of Islam.
And if there is a practical suggestion, my
dear brothers and sisters,
that let us
help this community.
We have this is the last stretch,
and
I, and Mashallah,
my heart
was overjoyed
when I saw the development
in this beautiful masjid. So I ask each
and every one of you to complete this
project inshallah before
the month of Ramadan. May Allah reward
all of you. May Allah
forgive us
all.
My dear brothers and sisters,
welcome to round 2 of,
the presentation about
upholding moderation,
resisting
radicalization,
which we started last night
with this blessed gathering,
and welcome for
the newcomers.
Basically,
I
wrote a detailed presentation
for these
3 consecutive
evenings.
They revolve around the issue of moderation.
And
tomorrow evening we are going to delve into
the danger of extremism and radicalization.
And we said that
this
series
of
engagement and discussion
is very important
as effectively
engaging
among ourselves
about,
our deen, our faith
which as you all know is facing a
lot of,
challenges.
We discussed in the Khutbah for those of
you who were,
who had
attended the Khutbah today. We talked about,
these issues.
And we said that what we
are going to do is that to break
down the discussion into points,
bullet points.
We briefly touched on,
4 points,
yesterday
evening.
And we are going to
talk about 6 points
this evening.
I'm aware that,
there was not sufficient time for
interaction and engagement and questions and answers.
So basically,
we have,
2 options.
We can
start right now
by opening the floor for questions and answers
and
reflections and comments
to make up
for what we have missed yesterday
evening.
Or we go about the presentation
for about,
35 minutes
and
devote the last half an hour segment
for questions and answers. I I do understand
that
some of you have many questions and comments,
so the choice is yours.
Okay, so we'll
go with
the presentation
for about 35 minutes.
Now
we, can I ask
to raise your hand somehow after 5 minutes,
after 35 minutes,
so we
become conscious of the time?
So we will talk about the 5th point
and very very briefly
we talked about the,
lofty goals of,
all religions.
We talked about
the 5
higher purposes of Islamic law.
We talked about the best way to engage
the Quran,
the best way to engage hadith,
the best way to engage
Islamic heritage and Islamic legacy.
And
now the 5th point for those of you
who have this presentation,
here it is written, I'm going to read
and then
elaborate
further.
It is written, reform
and renewal
is religiously
mandated
in our faith.
Reform and renewal
is religiously mandated.
It is not an option.
It is an imperative. It is an obligation
to
come up
with solutions
that
basically
relate to our concerns and our issues
living
in this time and age.
The problem is that, my brothers and sisters,
is that
with the issue of
reforming
or reformation
or
renewal,
we
unfortunately,
some of us
feel a little bit
reserved or conservative
not to engage
in this
imperative
of renewing the faith,
of reforming
our situations.
And there is a word
that is often
put on our face
if we try to renew the face
or reform the face,
they easily brand each and everything as
bida.
Oh, this is bida.
This is innovation in the faith.
While
they
unfortunately misunderstand
the word bidah,
okay,
The word bidah
to be
understood
clearly,
clearly
means
something
that
is in sharp conflict
with the basics of Islam.
Okay.
Something that is not religiously
founded.
Something that is against
the spirit
of Islam.
This is what Bidah is.
Now with customs,
with norms,
with worldly
things,
okay, bena does not exist.
Even in terms of
worship,
there is a good
bidah and there is a bad bidah.
Do you know, my brothers and sisters,
in
the call to prayer?
We have a call to prayer. Before we
start
praying, there is a call to prayer.
Do you know
that in fajr
call to prayer, as in fajr,
it is different from the other calls of
prayer.
What is the difference?
Which
means prayer
is better than
sleep.
This was an innovation.
This was a bidah.
This addition
to the wording
of
the adhan
was actually introduced by
Sayyid Nabila.
And the prophet
thought it is better to include it
in
the
call to prayer to the adhan, so it
is it was introduced.
Do you know that also tarawih prayer,
is a biddah?
Okay, but it is a good one.
Okay. Do you know that usually when a
Muslim
makes ablution
ready for the prayer,
It is
recommended that once
you make the ablution,
you pray
2 raka,
2 units of prayer.
This is also
a bidah.
It is actually
was done by
Sayyidna
Saad,
ibn Obadah,
and
he
did this
and the prophet told him, I
saw you in
the highest ranks in paradise. What is it
that you do? He told him
that once I make udu,
I make the ablution, I stand up in
prayer for 2 units of prayer and
the prophet approved this.
Okay?
Now just think about it.
If the prophet, peace be upon him, was
born
in Buffalo,
what kind of clothing he would wear?
Exactly.
Okay.
So
this has nothing to do with,
with bida
as
religiously
disliked act.
Now bidah again should be defined as something
that is going
against
the religion.
Like for example, introducing a 6th prayer.
This is bidah,
okay?
Like for example,
instead of 4
units of prayer, I will say 3.
That's something that goes against
the principles of the faith.
Now think about even collecting the Quran in
1
book, in a book form.
This was an innovation. The pro the prophet
himself did not do it.
But the community after his death thought that
this is something good
to collect
the Quran in 1 book form.
But it turned out to be the best
option
that could have been made
and we are thankful
for the companions who thought about this.
Okay.
So bidah is defined as something that goes
against the principles of Islam. Other than that,
we can see. If it is good, we
say it is good. Bad, we say it
is bad.
Okay.
You know or you relate
to some of us unfortunately
who even forbid
eating with the spoon.
You say you eat and you eat with
the 3 fingers
and that's the only
option you have.
Okay?
There are people who
forbid,
you know, wearing pants and wearing this and
saying
salaam to,
non Muslims. They say it is bidah.
Okay? So we have to look at bidah
as something that goes against
Islam.
Now about renewing the faith,
this is as I said religiously
mandated
that each generation
has to interact
with the sources
of religion
and
they are obliged
to renew
the understanding,
not renew the tenets of the faith,
renew the understanding
and the application
of the faith
to
the living community.
This is,
as I said, religiously mandated.
Okay?
If you look at the Quran, you will
find ample references to the word islah.
As a matter of fact, each and every
prophet that came to
his
community,
it was a renewal movement or a reform
movement.
In
I desire to bring about reform and renewal
to you.
So
the call of each and every prophet was
indeed a reform movement
because what happens each and every generation,
there is
different levels of understanding
and commitment even
with the religious principles.
So
the call of renewal and reform is religiously
mandated because
to freshen up
the message
to
the current lived reality of the people.
The message has to be fresh.
The message has to be relevant
to the changing
conditions
of the different communities.
The prophet himself
has said in one of the authentic
statements
that
God would raise
someone
or some group
who would renew the faith
for the community
at the tip of every 100 years.
Okay?
There was consensus
about
the first 2 centuries,
the 1st century and the 2nd century,
about who
were
the reformers
and the renewers
of the faith.
One in the political realm in the 1st
century
and one in the religious realm
for the 2nd century. After that, there is
no consensus. Indeed, many reformers and many people
have been
raised in the annals of Islamic history who
did this magnificent
work.
The first
reformer
in the 1st century
was
Omar ibn Abd el Aziz. Omar ibn Abd
el Aziz,
the 6th caliph
in the political realm. In the 2nd century,
in the religious realm
anybody knows?
No.
No. There was a consensus.
Imam Shafir.
Yes. There was a consensus
that he was the
second reformer in the 2nd
century A. H.
After that
many, many reformers
came
and re renewed
the faith
to the community. Indeed
if you look at the wording of the
prophet
you cannot just
restrict it to individual
because man in Arabic, man
in Arabic
can, can mean individuals
or communities
or groups
or movements
who can renew and reform the faith.
Now mind me,
and I think I have noted this,
for
the proper definition
for the term tajdeed, which means renewal,
and islah, which means reform.
Okay?
As you are aware and please now,
listen up carefully to this point because
we have been hearing calls
from
some
Muslims
who have been, yeah, fed up with what
has gone on
with
violent extremism
and terrorism
and strict application of Islamic law,
these things and of course,
injustices being done to women,
They are fed up and
they are advancing
certain
calls
that Islam needs to go through a similar
process
of reformation
like what Christianity
has gone through.
Okay?
And here
I'm just proposing my point of view
that Islam
does not need to go to a similar
process of reformation
with a capital R, uppercase R,
okay,
because we are talking about a different context.
We are talking about
when it comes
to our faith that there is there are
certain
dynamics in our faith that makes our faith
cope with
the changing circumstances,
cope with the
different contexts.
There are certain elements within our faith that
give rise to these type of things.
We do not need to go to a
similar process because we are talking about
totally different concept concept. And
I can give you,
you know, the, the podium to
to interact with this point,
to give your own perspective,
if you wish.
Okay.
So
in my opinion,
okay,
yeah, these calls
of reformation
with an uppercase R
does not relate
to us Muslims living
in this time and age.
However,
all of these grievances,
all of these legitimate concerns
are valid. We are not negating them.
We are not negating that there are injustices.
We are not negating that there are
a lot of,
especially
to our sisters
and unfortunately,
and this has not
been proven from our
sources unfortunately, but from
mainly certain
traditional,
misconceptions
unfortunately
which have been
built up
across many centuries,
in inadequacies,
injustices
being done to our
sisters, for example, just a case in point.
So
we are
receiving these legitimate
concerns and calls
as valid.
We have to do something about them.
Why is it, for example, that
Muslim communities in terms
of corruption index,
Muslim countries in terms of corruption index, you
will see
Muslims are in the
top. Why?
Okay.
Why
you see,
as I'm going to talk about
that,
and this relates to Doctor. Farida's
concern, that
unfortunately
somehow
in terms of, how to make your prayer
or how to,
make wudu,
you have very expansive elaborations
about these types of things
while in issues that
are of relevance to
everyday
issues and concerns,
and we have little or no guidance.
Okay. Why we have
many
volumes
talking about
ritual purification
and
very little or no
guidance about
vital
issues that are confronting us
day in and day out.
Why there is poor governance
in Muslim countries,
okay,
while in non Muslim countries
they are actually applying the principles
of true faith.
There are certain
issues
that we really need
to probe into
in an innovative
legitimate ways.
And
I always, as I said yesterday,
that Islamic law, there is a built in
mechanism
of relevance, of engagement.
Okay.
Islam came to make life easy on people.
It did not come to drive people crazy
or make their life miserable.
This is what the Quran said.
Allah God is addressing
our Prophet
And it's telling him that we did not
reveal this Quran to you to make you
miserable.
We revealed it to make you happy,
to make your community happy.
This is the purpose. But unfortunately
because
of the lack of understanding of these vital
issues
and the lack of understanding that renewing the
faith and making it relevant
to the conditions
of the people is religiously
mandated. Unfortunately
there is a lack
of understanding about this vital issue that we
have
somehow
have taken
renewal
and reform as something bad
and as something that relates
to Bida.
This is innovation in religion, so you are
better off
not
engaging in any
real
research.
And as I said
yesterday evening
that we really have to be thankful
to the imams and to the religious scholars
who have really done
their homework
by
providing solutions
to the issues,
to the concerns
of their communities.
They provided solutions.
But
unfortunately,
somehow again,
we have lost this spirit
and we relied
on very, very old
opinions
and we are when we are trying to
relate them to our situations
here in this country, for example,
oftentimes
do not work. So what we need
is basically produce
this cadre of religious
leadership
who both understand
well
the foundations and sources of Islamic law
and the lived reality.
The lived reality.
We need homegrown
Scholars
homegrown,
okay,
with 2 legs. One leg
is grounding in religious sciences and Islamic sciences,
and the other leg
is on the lived reality,
the changing
conditions,
the context,
where and when and how we are living
or how we can
make Islam relevant
to
our
day to day concerns.
And mind me,
this is probably the last point about this
aspect,
when we are talking about
this cadre of religious leadership, we are talking
about a very
specialized
group.
It is not amateurs.
It is not someone who has read a
couple of books or listened to a couple
of lectures
or have gone to a couple of,
conventions,
Islamic conventions
or have picked up few
things and, you know, on the way, but,
you know, back and forth from work, you
are listening or you are reading.
We are talking about people
who can spend their entire life and dedicate
their entire life
to seeking religious sciences.
Unfortunately, we are lacking in this.
We are lacking in this.
And I have suggested before that we really
need to encourage our young people and provide
them with a scholarship.
Scholarship funds
to pursue
religious sciences
in an accredited
academic environment
while we
keep polishing their skills and brushing their skills
up
to be able to
fully understand
the
lived reality
that we are facing
in this time and age. There are
several issues that we need to grapple with
that affect us,
but unfortunately we do not have
solutions that
can
be
a foundation
for
solid research.
So
this is something that we need to think
about
as we are
talking about this important issue of moderation
and resisting radicalization.
My goodness, time is
6th point,
here I'm
talking about the 4 paradigms of the Sira.
Sira means the biography of the prophet.
The 4 paradigms of the biography of the
prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam
that represent timeless guidance for Muslims
now.
This is very important.
In order to understand this point,
let me just
tell you
something about
a concept in Islamic law called abrogation.
Abrogation.
Can anybody
explain to me what abrogation means?
In linguistic way, abrogation means what?
Okay, something that is canceling
either one thing,
one another thing or a set of things,
the concept of cancellation.
This is something
okay, and bear with me because this is
a bit complex
subject.
This is something in Islamic law
that a person
who would like to explain the Quran or
would like to explain hadith
has to fully understand.
Okay. There are certain verses
that are canceling
the ruling of certain
other verses.
And in terms of the prophetic teaching, certain
prophetic
statements are canceling
another
set of prophetic statements
in terms of ruling, not just the verses
or the hadith, in terms of ruling.
So for example,
the prophet
forbid
us from visiting the graves.
You will find a hadith like that.
But then there is another hadith that says,
I forbid you from visiting the graves,
but now
visit them because it reminds you of the
hereafter.
And this is, by the way, for both
men and women.
Okay?
So this is what the concept is about.
Now
what is the problem now and what what
I'm trying to do?
The problem lies
when certain scholars
expanded the concept of abrogation
to mean
each and everything
that was done before,
like the prophet for example,
they only take his last statement
and the other statements that he said
in Mecca
or when he ordered Muslims to migrate to
Abyssinia.
All of these statements
and guidance
is canceled.
They also applied and this is very
dangerous,
very dangerous, and we are going to explain
tomorrow why.
They came to the Quran and they said
that all verses
talking about good relationship
with Christians, for example,
is, are canceled.
And
what we hold to be true
are verses talking about warfare and conflict.
So essentially to them
that the relationship between a Muslim and a
non Muslim
is a relationship of conflict and warfare
and the struggle and fighting.
They have canceled all
verses talking about
good relationship
that we should keep even with non Muslims.
This is again very dangerous and this is
actually the mindset
of the terror groups.
This is their mindset.
They think
that
all verses talking about
relations
to maintain good relations with the other
are canceled by verses talking about warfare
and even verses talking about warfare
are canceling verses
that talking about war as a defensive measure.
So to them,
war is an offensive.
It's an offensive.
So you declare war
on each and everybody.
That is their
danger.
That's their
pitfall,
their error.
Now what I am advancing and proposing
is that
the life of the prophet, peace be upon
him,
presents to us timeless
guidance,
timeless guidance.
So if we find ourselves
in situations
like the prophet was in Mecca for example,
very hostile
environment.
So we should take guidance from the prophet
how he dealt
with his community in a hostile environment.
So for example,
in 13 years of Makkah,
people were rude to him, very hostile, persecuted
him, stopped his message,
harassed him, his family, his companions,
but he never raised
the sword against them.
And he was very socially active
in defending
the rights of poor and needy.
He participated
in what came to be known as the
alliance
of the good people.
So there were alliances and he was part
of the community
And people interacted with him. They entrusted him
with money and with
important stuff,
you know, as a safe box,
even with non Muslims,
Okay? So
this set of guidelines
presents
a timeless guidance for us. If we happen
to find ourselves in such an environment,
indeed there are lessons
from the prophet's
guidance
to guide us
how to behave
in such an environment.
Now similarly,
when the prophet ordered Muslims to go to
Abyssinia
under a Christian king,
a non Muslim rule,
so to speak.
This is again presents a timeless guidance.
Why I'm saying this?
Because there are
few
lunatics who are saying that
Muslims in America or in the West or
in Australia,
they ought to migrate
to
to Muslim countries
because they are not supposed to live there
under a non Muslim rule.
This is ridiculous
because the prophet
ordered the companions
to go
to Abyssinia
under a Christian king.
And now the companions, when they went there,
they understood
what the prophet meant. So they engaged
in the community over there.
They,
according to authentic narrations,
they
even enrolled into army
over there.
They
some of them settled there,
so it was not just a temporary
stay.
Even when the prophet
migrated to Medina and made it his hometown,
some of them settled over there, settled over
there.
Okay.
So this is again a timeless guidance for
us.
And this explains
that
regardless
of the claims
of the few radicals,
Muslims
across the history, across the history, they have
gone to places.
They
settled there.
They
were socially
and politically
and religiously,
you
know, related to
the conditions and contexts of these countries
and they became
citizens,
practically,
of these countries
and contributed positively
about,
the well-being and welfare
of these communities.
So
the point about number 6 again is that
if you read the Sira, do not just
focus on the last days of the prophet
and cancel
all the other guidance.
You have to read it
in such a way
that it presents
eternal guidance for Muslims.
And our homework is to see which era,
which
time frame
we are in as far as
the guidance of the prophet.
Are we in Mecca?
Are we in Abyssinia?
Are we in Medina
1
and Medina 2? The difference is that
in Medina 1, there were a number of
religious,
diverse
groups.
Okay. And in Medina 2,
even though
Christians and Jews lived there but
predominantly it was the Muslim community.
Where are we in terms of this
guidance?
And you can agree with me we are
in a Abyssinia era.
So
calls, why I'm saying this, why this is
important,
because we see also among us
some
people are advancing the call that okay now
we are in in
in in America,
so
let us apply Sharia law here.
Let us
bring about a caliphate here.
All of these
at this time and age
and considering the circumstances
of
this country and the respect of the,
the state laws and the constitution
are
irrelevant calls.
It will
make us go through,
real trouble if we make these calls.
The best that we can do is to
look at
this era
that the prophet
instructed
his community to migrate, what the community, the
Muslim community, did at this time,
and what they did not do. We need
to look at
this guidance from this perspective.
Let me just conclude,
and, I touched upon it. I will just
read, the 7th point,
which basically,
sums up what I have
said.
Relations
with the other, we
said that
in in the understanding of our faith,
this is the divine will. We are created
differently.
We live
in a pluralistic
world, and this is the will of Allah.
The will of Allah.
And Allah explains why we were created
differently.
The answer came from God
to know each other, not to kill each
other, not to despise each other. It is
to know each other.
I Jawad,
raised his hand.
Let me just read these lines.
Islam established
a moral and humanistic
civilization
that encompassed
a plurality of religions,
philosophies, and civilizations
which contributed
immensely to Muslim society.
We see ourselves, we Muslims, see ourselves
as
people who have absorbed
a multiplicity of civilizations.
We have been exposed to and absorbed the
great civilizations
of the Persians, Indians,
Chinese,
and Greeks into our culture
and intellectual life. And we benefited from all
of them,
as well
as contributed
to them.
And the last thing, Egypt as a historical
example, I will just
share with you an important finding in half
a minute.
Egypt.
We know historically
that
Islam went to Egypt
right after
the prophet died in the era of caliph
Umar, the second caliph.
Okay.
Historically speaking, and this
was so amazing to me to find
because we are under the impression that when
Islam goes to a country
in matters of a few years,
the entire population
is converted to Islam. As if Yani, our
mission is to
bring people and convert them to Islam.
Do you know
after 250
years,
250
years,
the ratio of Muslims
in Egypt was only 5%.
This was a shocking
finding for me.
After 250
years,
the ratio of Muslims
were only
5%.
So this tells you what?
It tells you a lot of good things.
That first of all, we are not just
Muslims when they go to convert
other people,
it means that they
went,
they they
were not having
this mindset to convert people but to live
peacefully, to
exist, to have good relationships,
to establish businesses,
to intermarry.
And this was the key
factor.
After
700 years
it was 50%.
700
years.
Okay,
so this tells you
a lot.
So I will just stop here because I
promised and,
let us open the floor for,
discussion.
Yes, brother.
So we'll start.
Yes, it was
such a very
tough time.
Actually we flew in midnight
the night before
from Brussels,
from Egypt to Brussels
airport.
We were transferred
to the
airport, to the hotel.
So it was almost 3 in the
morning.
We just took a couple of hours of
sleep,
and then
we went for breakfast. And this is when
we heard the news
about the blast in the airport.
I immediately called
the ambassador because we were supposed to be
in the European Parliament at 9 AM.
Okay.
And the attack was 8:0:5,
something like that.
So,
I called. So they said that everything is
still on.
And we demanded,
you know, higher security
and petrol and,
so they came. We went.
And this is on the way we
heard
the other
blast,
in the subway
station, which was about 800 meters away from
the European Parliament,
we, we heard actually.
And soon after we got into the, the
parliament
and they closed the roads after that. Okay.
So basically it was
good
in a way that the one of the
highest
religious clerics in the Sunni Muslim world
was at the European Parliament to condemn and
to explain what Islam
has to say about these types
of acts.
Okay.
We were of course bombarded
with questions about
why is this happening, why it is Islam,
you know,
what you are going to do with these
kind of,
few radicals,
what kind of programs for,
you know,
engaging them or correcting the misconceptions
that they have.
It was very stormy,
2 hours
thing.
But to me,
I think it was very vital
that we
talk about these types of issues.
And right after we departed,
the king,
the king of Belgium
called us
and he was informed about what we have
said. So it was good in a way
to,
address
these issues.
But of course, you know,
we were going with mixed feelings. Of course
we feel the responsibility
because now,
you know, you can talk about,
a 100 hours about Islam and Islam is
the religion of peace and
this and that. And one act of terror,
you know, drives you
maybe 500 years back.
This is a collective responsibility.
We talked to them and we are actually
one of the positive things. I'm glad that
you brought this. One of the positive things
that we
talked to the king about
was that he should suggest a number of
imams, religious clerics,
to come to our office.
And then we reeducate them and we
engage them about these issues of radicalization
and how best to address them. We are
receiving the 1st batch in May.
So that's a very positive,
development.
Yes. It is.
I I totally agree with you. I'm just
going to refer
to the wording of the grand Mufti. He
said it is a two way street. This
is how he framed it.
We share
responsibility,
but you also
carry,
you know, a big burden of the responsibility.
And we talked about
integration and,
different programs
to, help integrate
these communities.
In principle
freedom of expression
is sacred.
In principle
it is sacred,
right?
That Islam also came to guarantee and ensure.
If you look at the Quran from an
objective view,
why Allah would
include
the arguments
of disbelievers,
for example, about him?
Allah recorded
these arguments
even though
they were talking about God in
an improper way.
Why Allah talked about the importance
of the intellect
and the mind
as
a tool
for reaching
God.
Why the prophet, peace be upon him, in
his
model
he
did
not kill
the people who harassed him and
verbally abused him
and have done horrendous things to him.
Okay?
But of course you agree with me that
this right
of freedom of expression
has to be
within
a certain framework.
Okay?
And we're not talking about Islam, we're talking
about all legal systems.
They,
they they say
absolute
freedom means absolute chaos.
Okay? So
there have to be
certain
boundaries
for
this right.
Now how we can interpret
these boundaries,
legal systems do.
Legal systems do.
In the case of Pakistan, I'm not aware
of what
the laws
are in terms of blasphemy law.
Okay. And what what constitutes
I personally, personally don't agree
with this type
of law. This is my personal
opinion
because
in one way, how to interpret
that something is blasphemous
and something that is not blasphemous.
There has to be a due process
to assess
this
and also about the impact
of certain
blasphemous statements
on the community.
How to assess that, you know, because basically
religious symbols and icons and the Quran and
the prophet's
personal
example ought to be
respected in Muslim countries.
These are the symbols, the identity for us
and nobody can just
say certain things that will eventually bring about
chaos
in the community.
We need to
see
which is which.
So a statement that can be interpreted
as blasphemous ought to be investigated properly. So
the person has to have
the due process of the law,
as to have the chance to defend himself.
If he negates what he said,
if he repents,
if he said I don't mean this, you
know,
he has to be acquitted
from
these
type
of statements and allegations.
I understand that as you mentioned it is
taking a political
twist and this is very dangerous
to include
such
religious
principles
and symbols and icons
into the
dirty game of politics
will eventually lead to chaos.
But as I mentioned,
you know, if you look objectively
in the Koran you will see ample references
to the protection of the freedom of expression.
See,
there is a difference between inviting
and converting.
In any religion,
you ought to be a witness.
Okay, and you talk about your faith.
This is your homework,
but the result
is not in your hand. Whether the person
is going to convert or not is not
in your hand.
Also in terms of priority,
you can talk about
your faith,
okay,
in a reasonable way
and a forceful way. So I'm sure that
they had other priorities.
They were sharing
their faith
as talking about different
cultures and different ways
of living and their concern is to mingle
and settle and
make a living
and establish relationship.
And that's why the intermarriage
was a key factor.
And this is our role model, a model
that I personally prefer
to accentuate
social relationships
and religious relationship
should
be should not be accentuated in the first
priority.
So when you engage, yes, you talk about
your faith but not in a forceful way.
So we'll take one from the sisters and
come back.
What I say to everyone that that comes
to me to speak about this issue,
I said, you know, when the KKK
was lynching blocks in the south, they did
it in the name of Jesus Christ.
These people who say they're
the south with the blocks, they did in
the name of Jesus Christ. And they consider
themselves good Christians. Exactly. So I said it's
the same thing for anyone because they said
in the holy Quran, it says it's for
good to kill innocent men. Exactly.
So if they do this, they're in error.
So
no. No. No. No. You are a physician.
You know your job. I am a religious
scholar. I know my job. So you have
to believe me and just to
Yes. Yes. I I
totally relate
to
this agony. I put it, it is a
big dilemma,
okay,
which if you look at the genuine
scholars,
of
the past,
first of all, this dichotomy
between religious sciences and secular sciences did not
exist.
So they were physicians, good physicians and good
mufassirin and good scholars and good faqid.
They have, they had well rounded,
specializations.
That's number 1.
Number 2,
which is what is miserably lacking
nowadays,
that when they engaged with
the so called laymen,
they
interacted
and
engaged this layman
with
a number
of
concerns. So the layman,
even though he's not a specialized
scholar in
religious sciences,
but they took seriously
his or her concerns.
So if you have if a layman
has certain issues,
okay,
so
it is the role of the scholars to
seriously consider
these set of concerns,
set of issues,
set of
problems.
And then their responsibility
is that they have to come up
with solutions,
with answers,
with responses
to these concerns
and issues.
This is, as I said, this is miserably
lacking.
They
are in their, ivory castle.
They think that
I'm not generalizing, of course.
Okay. They think that they've got it all.
Okay.
And who are you to talk to me
about these type of things?
You know, you are in your profession and
I am this and that. Okay.
So there is a disconnect
between
the two worlds,
the two sets of
sciences and disciplines.
So
in the Islamic tradition,
for a scholar to be called as such,
three conditions
have to be met
for him to be eligible
to talk to the people and teach the
people. Three conditions, not 1, not 2, 3.
The first, that he has to be well
grounded
in religious sciences.
That's the first.
The second,
he has to be well grounded in the
lived reality surrounding him.
He has to be part of this lived
reality.
He knows
issues
that his community
are grappling with.
And number 3,
he has to possess certain skills
to relate the religious sciences
to the lived reality.
Other than that, he is not regarded as
a scholar. He is regarded as a worshiper,
a moola,
or someone who has,
you know, it's crooked
as if someone is just limping in one
lick.
Okay.
But 3,
the skills, there are set of skills. You
have the religious sciences,
the sources,
and you have the changing reality,
lived reality.
Say for example,
talk about the issue of life insurance.
Okay, so you have certain sources
and then you have this issue
and now you want to have a ruling
about this particular issue which is contemporary issue,
never existed before,
to be able to understand these sources
and apply them to these changing
situations.
This is a craft.
This is a specialty.
Okay,
that requires not only
information,
that requires
engagement
with the community, that requires
intelligence,
that requires methodology.
Okay? So
this is the time of the scholars we
are looking for. And once we have these
scholars,
it is going to be very easy to
engage and to bring about these words that
we are like to do.
If we start,
I bet you,
no, it would not take generations.
But it is has to start from here
with raising
few kids
and preparing them for this,
job,
mentoring them,
giving them the support
In reference to, Vita Yes. Is there consensus
on the what is your basic principles
about the or
is there a
You will find opinions
each group of people
would
not,
a bad thing.
It is actually a commendable thing. But it
depends on
the way you channel
your innovative skills.
They just flash it in your face. Now,
let's just Bilal.
Okay?
If you shake hand with the brother after
the prayer, it's Bilal.
If you make dua, it is Bilal. So
I am against this type of mindset