Hosai Mojaddidi – Requesting Religious School Accommodations in Ramadan & Sr. Eman Tai

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The speakers emphasize the importance of promoting and empowering children to assert their Muslim identity and desire for inclusion, creating accommodations for students during the pandemic, and educating children about their cultural and community issues. They stress the need for parents to support their children in education and community outreach, educating children about their cultural and community issues, and creating playsuits for Gen Z. They emphasize the importance of creating accommodations for students to avoid negative consequences and highlighting children in their community and community outreach efforts.

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			So then why they come, everybody?
Thank you all for coming tonight.
		
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			I'm really excited about tonight
because it's something that a
		
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			number of us have been working
towards for a while, which is to
		
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			be able to share with you how you
can best ask for and avail
		
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			yourselves of the religious
accommodations that we are
		
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			privileged to be able to have in
our local area. So I can only
		
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			really talk specifically about
policies that are in place in the
		
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			Dublin Unified School District
because there who I've worked
		
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			with, but we're going to share
with you the letter that we sent
		
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			to our superintendent, and the
paperwork and stuff that we the
		
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			information we provided them. So
if you wanted to do the same
		
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			thing, you may not feel
comfortable going to your school
		
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			superintendent quite yet. But if
you wanted to speak to your
		
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			principal or your child's class,
you'd have you could tailor this
		
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			information to fit what you need.
Before we get into all those
		
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			specifics, I felt like we should
really begin with grounding
		
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			ourselves in why it's important
for us to promote and facilitate
		
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			and opportunities for our kids to
assert their Muslim identity and
		
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			why it's Ramadan is such an
integral part of that. So to begin
		
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			with, I'm gonna turn it over to
Masada Husain so she can make dua
		
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			for us to be to start with and to
help us get our foundations and
		
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			footings right about our intention
with doing this work.
		
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			To All right, I just went out on
our team and hamdu lillah wa
		
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			salatu salam ala shrivel MBA you
will mursaleen say that our
		
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			Mowlana What have you been at
Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa
		
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			sallam while earlier CIBJO salam
to Sleeman kathira. And shall I
		
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			wanted to first and foremost
welcome all of you said I'm on a
		
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			call. And I happen to live with a
cat to just like Moorhead and for
		
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			being here. I also wanted to thank
SR Eman for spearheading this
		
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			really important initiative and
discussion for all of us.
		
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			In preparation for this, I wanted
to you know, really just first and
		
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			foremost reflect on a word
actually that a man mentioned,
		
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			which is identity. You know, we
know this is an age of identity
		
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			politics, and that actually has is
not just in the political realm.
		
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			It's definitely trickling into the
everyday experience of all of us,
		
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			including our children, in terms
of them being expected to have
		
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			certain identity markers in public
places, or pretty much anywhere
		
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			they go nowadays, this is what's
expected that they label
		
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			themselves that they assert
certain aspects of their identity.
		
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			So for us as Muslims, obviously,
we want them to identify as
		
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			Muslims being their most important
fundamental primary identity. But
		
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			if we don't realize the importance
of ensuring that that they have,
		
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			that they're accommodated, or that
there are that their identity is
		
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			going to be welcome, especially in
places like their school, which
		
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			they spend the vast majority of
their time, then we can logically
		
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			deduce from that that they likely
will have identity issues. And
		
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			what's interesting about
especially when you look at the
		
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			adolescence period, if you're not
familiar with Eric Erickson's, he
		
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			goes over. He's a famous
psychologist who goes over the
		
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			different stages of child
development. And he talks about
		
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			adolescence being a dilemma for
youth, between two different
		
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			issues, which is identity and role
confusion. So already in a time
		
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			that they're experiencing just
natural changes, physiological
		
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			changes, emotional changes, and
this confusion that's happening
		
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			just naturally as part of their
growth development. On top of that
		
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			they're in a climate where they're
being pressured to accept or
		
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			assert certain parts of
themselves, whether they like it
		
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			or not, and to maintain certain,
again, markers of identity in
		
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			order to be included. And so this,
you know, inclusivity, are these
		
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			these terms that we hear a lot?
What does that mean, on a day to
		
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			day basis for the average Muslim
youth. And this is really what the
		
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			conversation is, and especially as
it all Dawn is around the corner,
		
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			and so many of our youth who are
in who are attending public
		
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			schools will have to grapple with
whether or not they can assert
		
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			their Muslim identity. And Ramadan
is so important to that
		
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			conversation, because it's not a
day. It's not just, you know, like
		
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			many, for example, religious
holidays, sometimes, you know,
		
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			the, if you look at other
traditions, even within our own
		
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			tradition, when we look at holiday
experiences, they're you know,
		
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			they come and go, they're pretty
quick, right? It's like a day, and
		
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			maybe it'll be recognized, maybe
there's some words and platitudes
		
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			exchanged. But when you look at an
entire month, that is a different,
		
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			you know, we're looking at
something completely different
		
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			here. And especially when in that
month, they have to actually not
		
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			do certain things that come very
naturally to them as we all do,
		
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			right. I mean, we're not eating,
we're not drinking, and these are
		
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			very social activities. I remember
when I was in school, some of my
		
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			favorite times were recess.
		
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			lunch break, PE. So imagine you go
to school, obviously to learn, but
		
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			you also go to have fun to meet
your friends to socialize, to
		
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			exchange snacks, to be able to do
those types of things. But in the
		
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			for an entire month, you're pretty
much cut off from those things.
		
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			Now, if the school environment
isn't acknowledging you, and
		
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			everyone else like you and
expecting you to just in a way,
		
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			either suppress or tolerate all of
those things going on without you
		
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			and not being able to participate,
as a young child who hasn't really
		
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			formed a strong identity, it's
going to be difficult. And this is
		
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			why we see a lot of kids
struggling during the month of
		
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			Ramadan is because they don't want
to be ostracized or left out,
		
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			right, they don't want to be left
out of experiences, they don't
		
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			want to be left out of, you know,
being with their peer groups. But
		
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			sometimes again, that's what ends
up happening, because the fast can
		
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			be so difficult, especially being
hunted on now we're in, in
		
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			moderately, you know, easier time.
But if you look at later parts, in
		
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			the year, where the days are
really stretched out, or the
		
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			climate is hotter, it can be very
difficult to to fast as a as a
		
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			student in a in a schooling
environment, when you don't have
		
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			support. And that's really the
fundamental issue here. If you
		
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			look at Muslims, and a Muslim
school, which I happen to teach
		
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			at, and I've had plenty of
experience a whole other story,
		
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			because everybody's fasting, your
teachers, the administrators, all
		
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			of the fellow students, unless
they're obviously younger, but
		
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			pretty much everybody is in the
fasting spirit. And so that burden
		
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			that you may feel, just naturally,
you know, being deprived of
		
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			certain things is lifted, because
you're also being redirected into
		
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			other things. But that's not the
experience of our students who are
		
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			in these types of environments,
because everything is still going
		
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			on, as usual. But they're just
expected to, as I said, either be
		
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			left out of those things or
withstand the pressure and the
		
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			difficulty that may come by being
immersed in those environments. So
		
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			what Michelle what Eman and our
panel, lovely panel here is
		
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			embarking on is really trying to
help our students become
		
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			advocates. And this is such an
important also part of their
		
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			identity as Muslims. If you look
at the way that Islam began, it
		
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			all became through initiatives
through advocacy through Yes, you
		
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			know, organization, mobilization
coming together, but also speaking
		
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			up for rights in a time in an
environment where those rights
		
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			were suppressed. So we have to
inculcate these values in our
		
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			children and let them know that
when we as Muslims, that all of us
		
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			have that responsibility to be
there for one another. And so here
		
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			we are now, Inshallah, as adults,
as parents, as parent advocates,
		
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			as educators, advocating for them,
but they also need to rise to
		
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			that, and what does that look like
in the classroom or, you know,
		
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			with your fellow peers, it looks
like pride, it looks like a really
		
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			being proud of yourself as a
Muslim and bearing, you know, your
		
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			your traditions, whether it's
prayer, whether it's fasting,
		
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			whatever it is, with honor, and
not feeling pressured, because
		
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			you're different. And so that is
really the message that we want to
		
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			inculcate in our children, but we
can't do that without providing
		
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			some support from everybody in the
environment. And so my Shola
		
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			again, you know, just, I was
reading an article and I invite
		
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			all of you to look at this
article, because it was really a
		
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			good one about I think it was
published in on PBS. And this was
		
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			from either last year or the year
before. But in Louisiana, this
		
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			exact scenario played out and the
article Yes, it's on PBS. It's
		
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			It's titled How supporting
students during Ramadan helps
		
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			build feelings of belonging, it's
a really wonderful article. But it
		
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			shares this exact same scenario
where the this community and
		
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			specifically this family, the
mother, if you read her quotes,
		
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			she expresses that she feels like
she's failing her children because
		
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			she isn't able to help them
embrace their identity and be
		
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			strong about their identity,
because, you know, they're they're
		
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			capitulating to some of those
pressures. So she took it upon
		
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			herself to be that parent advocate
to go to the district in
		
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			Louisiana, Louisiana, the
Louisiana Department of Education
		
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			to push for policy changes, and
something that I really
		
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			appreciated about what she said at
the end, which I think is the
		
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			message that I hope we can all
gain from this initiative. She
		
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			says, leaving Ramadan
accommodation up to the
		
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			individuals at the district level
will open the door to individual
		
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			interpretation and discrimination.
And I think there's a lot of truth
		
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			to that if we, if we look at the
fact that Muslims represent almost
		
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			a quarter of the world's
population, and we're so behind on
		
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			accommodating Muslims like we have
over I looked over nearly 100,000
		
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			public schools in this country.
But how many of us, whether it's
		
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			our children or our own selves can
remember being in a pub, I went to
		
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			public schools, where Ramadan was
even a good time
		
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			alledged, you know, for more than
just a day when it was covered,
		
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			as, you know, a little tidbit in
the section on Islam, but we had
		
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			no celebrations, there was very
little fanfare to excite the
		
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			Muslims, right when I was young,
and I'm sure that's the case,
		
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			still for 1000s upon 1000s upon
1000s, of Muslims in our public
		
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			schools. So that tells me that we
are so far behind on this topic.
		
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			And it's more important than ever
now, again, because our children
		
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			are being pressured in so many
ways that we show up that we do
		
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			what we're doing here, and that we
make sure that at the district
		
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			level, or the school level,
whatever level we can, that we
		
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			basically assert our rights as
American citizens, for religious
		
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			freedom for religious rights, and
let our students, our children
		
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			know that we have their back and
also guide the people in charge so
		
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			that when we ask for
accommodations, it's not left for
		
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			their interpretation, because all
this time, it has been left up to
		
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			them, and they haven't taken care
of it. So Hamdulillah. Again, I
		
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			just wanted to thank all of you
for being here. It's really
		
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			wonderful turnout. And hopefully,
there's I'm sure a lot of people
		
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			watching, I'm excited to hear
about some of the progress that's
		
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			already been made on the ground.
So I'm going to turn it back over
		
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			to Eman Inshallah, and Jack,
welcome, thank you.
		
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			Thank you,
		
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			Zack will say, I just want to
acknowledge that I know you have
		
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			another engagement later. So
whenever you need to get up,
		
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			please feel free. And don't
hesitate. But we'll keep you for
		
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			as long as we can.
		
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			So I just wanted to take this
moment to introduce the other
		
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			people on the panel, I just wanted
to get started and let her be free
		
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			to go whenever she needs to. But I
wanted to introduce the other
		
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			people in the panel with me, this
is Dina Abba, Ramesh she is one of
		
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			the educators as part of the D USD
staff. And she's working with one
		
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			of our local elementary schools
Murray Elementary, to create a
		
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			more inviting environment for our
younger students in the elementary
		
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			level, who may not be fasting for
the whole month, but maybe
		
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			fasting, you know, once or twice a
week, or whatever is comfortable
		
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			for them. There may be some kids
in fifth grade, that might be
		
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			fasting, you know, a lot of the
days. So we wanted to, she wanted
		
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			to provide an alternative for them
at lunchtime, and try to, you
		
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			know, find ways to include them
and make them feel
		
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			like that what they're doing is
special and important. So I'll let
		
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			her talk more in more detail about
that. This is Sakina Elise, she is
		
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			one of our student leaders at the
MSA in Dublin, at Dublin high. And
		
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			I have to say that a lot of what,
you know, we were able to do now
		
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			has really been inspired by the
questions and the advocacy that
		
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			the students have done at the high
school level, these last few
		
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			years. You know, there's a number
of us as parents are sort of
		
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			working behind the scenes, but
they were braver than we were in
		
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			many, many cases to ask and be
brave and ask those teachers and
		
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			those people in authority over
them for things that should have
		
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			been, you know, easy to come by,
sometimes we're not. And
		
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			sometimes, you know, they got a
lot of support. So I just wanted
		
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			to acknowledge that, you know,
this was really a student
		
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			advocated student driven process.
And I'm really proud of all of
		
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			those high school students that
are doing that. And I wanted to,
		
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			you know, give Sakina time to
speak about that as well. Before
		
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			we, you know, I turn it over to
them to add on to what we've been
		
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			doing, I just wanted to just go
over a little bit of what we
		
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			actually shared with the
superintendent. So the first part,
		
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			which if any of you are part of
the USD community, then you will
		
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			have gotten when he was very
generous, and I wasn't expecting
		
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			it, he sent it to every parent,
every student and every faculty
		
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			member. So they each received
this. So you know, it's just kind
		
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			of a letter discussing the
importance of Ramadan.
		
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			The reason that I'm getting used
to this mouse,
		
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			the reasons that, you know,
Ramadan is important to Muslims
		
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			and to Muslim students and how
they practice. And
		
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			we asked them to sort of follow
four general guidelines in their
		
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			approach to Ramadan. One is to
raise awareness of Ramadan
		
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			significance to Muslim students,
because they don't, if no one else
		
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			knows why it's important for these
students to be doing what they're
		
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			doing, or why if it's so such an
integral part of their identity,
		
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			then it's hard for even those
adults who are at the best of
		
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			intentions to provide them with
that support. So we're asking them
		
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			to help us raise awareness within
adults and other students in the
		
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			community to know what's going on
right now
		
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			And then we asked for
accommodations for fasting
		
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			students. And that's a plethora of
different kinds of accommodations,
		
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			which we'll go into in more
detail. The other thing we asked
		
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			for is for them to be flexible and
understanding that this is not an
		
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			average sort of observance, it is
difficult, it's supposed to be
		
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			difficult, it's supposed to be a
time of restraint, right? When
		
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			we're, we're straining ourselves,
there's going to with that comes
		
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			some difficulties. It's also a
time for many young people to
		
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			learn that balance of how to
strike the balance between their
		
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			religious practices and our
observances with their day to day
		
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			responsibilities as students or
you know, as young people. And
		
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			then the last thing we ask is for
them to foster an inclusive
		
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			environment. And that's a lot of
what you know, Dina is going to be
		
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			talking about and Sakina will be
mentioning some of the things that
		
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			they're doing to just, you know,
make Ramadan, and Eid fun, Roma,
		
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			something that everyone can be a
part of, and to really understand
		
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			what it's all about. So those are
sort of the certain general
		
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			guidelines that we discussed with
them. And then we provided them
		
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			with an information sheet, which,
you know, I, I sort of tweaked it
		
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			a little bit based on our needs
here in our community, and the
		
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			questions and
		
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			sort of concerns that had come up
over these last few years. But
		
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			it's based on IMGs Ramadan
information sheet, so most of it
		
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			is from them. So just wanted to
acknowledge the great resources
		
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			and support that they provide. So
you know, I what I was going to do
		
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			my, my iPad is not working. But if
you guys would like to come up
		
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			afterwards and just sign in, or
give me your email address. So
		
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			that way I can share this
information with you. If anybody
		
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			wants it, please feel free to come
up to me after and I'll get your
		
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			email.
		
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			But yeah, so there's a, you know,
a long information sheet that you
		
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			can utilize with your teachers,
with your principals to give them
		
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			general information about even
Ramadan. And then the last thing
		
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			that we did, which, again, I'm
going to give a lot of the lion's
		
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			share of the credit for the
specific accommodations to our
		
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			high schoolers, because they were
very specific about their
		
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			requests. And I really appreciated
that. So, you know, we had some,
		
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			we asked that teachers make an
effort to become aware of the
		
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			students that are fasting in their
classroom, right. So we asked them
		
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			to try to, to make sure that, you
know, they are aware of who those
		
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			students are. That being said, it
is our responsibility as Muslim
		
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			families to let the school know
that your child is observing
		
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			Ramadan, whatever that looks like
for your child, if your child is a
		
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			fourth grader, and you're only
going to be fasting once a week,
		
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			then you need to let the classroom
teacher know that so that they
		
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			know what to expect. They know
Okay, your child might be sleepy
		
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			or that day, they might, you know,
need to take, you know, take a few
		
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			minutes to go wash their face, if
they're feeling tired, they may
		
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			want to be able to be in the
library at lunchtime, whatever
		
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			those requests and flexibilities
are that you would like to have.
		
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			For that situation. You need to be
asking for that. And you need to
		
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			give them the time to find ways to
accommodate that. Another thing I
		
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			want to point out is lunchtime is
lunchtime for everyone, right?
		
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			That's your teacher's break time
to write. So if we're asking for
		
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			them to do anything additional
outside of what is there a normal
		
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			schedule, then just like you would
accommodate, or you would ask for
		
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			from anyone you're going to be
patient and kind when you ask for
		
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			those, right? This is yes, we want
accommodations, but at the same
		
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			time, they're going out of their
way to make that possible for us.
		
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			So we want to be you know, as kind
as possible when we're asking for
		
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			those things. The last, the next
thing that we talked about is
		
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			waking up very early for so work.
There's many students that want to
		
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			be able to work early in the
morning before school starts,
		
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			right. So as the students pointed
out, many times, the teachers at
		
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			the secondary level, they make
assignments due at 1159. And
		
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			that's sort of their default
setting. The assignment is due on
		
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			March 3 at 1159 at night. Now if
you're going to be like sleeping
		
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			right when you when you come back
from school because you want to
		
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			take a nap and then you're going
to have if maybe you don't even
		
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			start your homework till nine
o'clock at night. So maybe having
		
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			that extra time to do some work at
night, to go to bed, wake up at
		
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			support and finish your work in
the morning is actually really,
		
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			really meaningful to you. Right?
So instead of getting late
		
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			assignments, they asked for the
teachers to make that
		
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			accommodation and set the
assignments to do to be due at
		
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			eight o'clock in the morning. I
mentioned this because it seems
		
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			like a small thing, but it can
make a really big difference in a
		
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			student's life. And this may look
		
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			Different at your schools and at
with the people that you're
		
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			working with, you know, so I would
suggest that you, you know, tailor
		
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			it to what you need. But there are
things that like that, that they
		
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			wouldn't even think about as
something that could make our
		
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			students lives easier.
		
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			In addition to that, we ask that
students obviously be given an
		
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			accommodation to refrain from
extreme physical activity, like
		
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			running the mile or Pacers. Now, I
know when I was young, when we
		
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			asked for to like not have to do
PE and Ramadan, they just sent us
		
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			to the library, and we got to
write a book report or like hang
		
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			out for the entire month in the
library. That is not the case
		
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			anymore. Right. So I think it was
because it was so few of us that,
		
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			you know, many times, they would
sort of let things slide. But now,
		
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			it's really that they still want
the kids to be outdoors, and they
		
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			still want them to participate in
class activities. But it may be
		
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			like helping take out equipment
sitting in the shade playing, you
		
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			know, a different game in the gym,
rather than running the mile or
		
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			doing pastries, or sitting outside
in the heat for, you know, an
		
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			hour. So we're not telling them
exactly how to handle it. But we
		
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			are asking them to give an
alternative.
		
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			So that where those things come
up, and you know how they make
		
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			those accommodations. They have
the flexibility to do what works
		
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			for them, and what works for that
school in that classroom.
		
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			We also asked them to note that
this lack of energy that the
		
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			students have, is not necessarily
an indication of their lack of
		
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			commitment. In fact, for us, it's
it's a signal signifies their
		
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			commitment to doing something that
is an adult requirement, they're
		
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			stepping up to do something, that
is what is an obligation for them
		
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			as Muslims. So we in this like
requires a lot of discipline to
		
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			do, right. So we're asking them to
recognize that. And when students
		
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			are tired, give them an
opportunity, you know, if there's
		
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			something that's out of the
ordinary talk to the students
		
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			about it, rather than escalating
it into a behavioral issue.
		
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			The other thing that we mentioned,
and I think is really important,
		
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			because I did hear this a few
times, is Ramadan is not a time
		
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			for discussing political acts of
terror, right? Terrorism is a
		
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			political act, whatever the
justification is, at the end of
		
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			the day, it's a political act, not
one of faith, right. And we
		
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			clearly denounce all acts of
terrorism, and Islam. So if that
		
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			comes up, that is something you
should definitely flag for an
		
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			administrator or for the
superintendent that this is not
		
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			something that we, you know, would
would, that we appreciate and
		
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			should not be happening at all.
		
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			And then the last couple are
around evil fitter. So we gave
		
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			them the dates for Eve, and told
them that, you know, students will
		
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			be taking one to two days off,
whatever is comfortable for your
		
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			family, you know, we have that
sort of window where it can be. So
		
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			whatever dates are work for your
family, you can take those dates
		
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			off for each. And then we also
asked that no testing be done on
		
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			each day for the students that are
observing Ramadan, that doesn't
		
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			mean that the teacher is not going
to have a test that day. The
		
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			teachers may have a test, they may
the school may have an activity,
		
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			but they will offer alternatives
to our students, right. They can't
		
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			change the whole schedule for our
students, but they will make
		
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			accommodations for them. We also
ask that they not give them the
		
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			test the next day immediately
after eat because that just ruins
		
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			eat if you have to study and do
homework, right? So we asked for
		
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			that as well. So I think you know,
we want to be as flexible as we
		
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			can be by not asking for how they
make these accommodations. But
		
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			asking very clearly for what it is
that we need in order for the
		
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			holiday to be enjoyable and for us
to really enjoy and practice our
		
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			observance of Ramadan. I think
that is everything that I had
		
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			here. I will quickly turn it over
to Sakina for her to discuss a few
		
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			of the additional things that came
up at the high school
		
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			Yes.
		
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			So like, everyone, my name is
Sakina and I am basically the
		
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			president of the MSA at Dublin
high. And I've been working with
		
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			everyone over here to help create
accommodations. So we've been
		
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			creating accommodations at Dublin
high for I'd say two or three
		
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			years now. And specifically at
Dublin high. What I've worked
		
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			around for creating are specific
areas for Muslim students to be
		
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			able to pray. So
		
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			if a student
		
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			Really great.
		
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			Sorry about that. So basically, if
a student, if a student is
		
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			participating in Ramadan, they
have to email their teacher, and
		
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			let them know, at least, I'd say
at least a week in advance. And
		
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			we've told all of our members at
MSA that they have to email their
		
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			teachers, because if their
teachers don't know that they're
		
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			participating in Ramadan, they're
not going to make the specific
		
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			accommodations for them. And what
I've worked on at Dublin high is
		
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			if they tell their teachers are
participating, and it's prayer
		
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			time, they are allowed to leave
their classes of if there's not a
		
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			test, they're allowed to leave
their classes in order to go pray
		
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			and just fulfill their atomic
obligations. And to add on, we
		
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			also aren't going to be sending
out an email during Laila milk
		
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			other just informing teachers
about how students are going to be
		
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			up a lot later and probably going
to be a lot more tired and just
		
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			requesting more accommodations
during that time and giving more
		
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			leniency towards students during
that time as well.
		
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			And aside from that, Dublin highs
just following all of the requests
		
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			and accommodations that we
outlined in the email and that SR
		
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			one had read out loud. If you have
any questions, I'm here to answer
		
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			them. But
		
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			oh, yeah, and also for EAD. Right
now we were working on basically
		
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			creating an event that was going
to get eat off as a holiday, or at
		
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			least just spreading awareness
about getting off as a holiday. It
		
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			was originally supposed to be in
March, but we just had some
		
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			complications with that. So
inshallah we're planning on doing
		
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			it during Eid, or not during eat,
but like a few days after eat. And
		
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			basically, during that event,
we're just going to outline the
		
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			importance of E than why us
Muslims are celebrating it, and
		
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			just getting getting more of a
push for Muslim students to allow
		
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			their voices to be heard. And I'm
just sending out we're going to
		
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			have students just send out emails
to their teachers, as well, just
		
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			for the accommodations. But yeah,
		
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			if you have any questions, again,
just feel free to ask and I'm here
		
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			to answer. I believe that's all
for in terms of the High School.
		
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			Thank you.
		
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			And then didn't want to talk about
		
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			my system.
		
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			So I think, you know, singing, it
did a really great job talking
		
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			about the additional things that
are going to be happening at the
		
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			high school, I would just say the
same reiterate what she said, in
		
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			order for the students to be given
those accommodations, their
		
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			parents, so at the high school
level, the students will send the
		
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			email, but you can see see your
parents on it that will help to
		
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			make it you know, kind of seen as
a genuine practice. As you know,
		
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			children like to push limits. So
when, you know, other students
		
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			found out that these
accommodations were being made,
		
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			particularly no tests, or delaying
deadlines, not having to run the
		
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			mile that everyone got on board
with, right? So they want they're
		
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			like, Oh, my grandfather's
Egyptian, I'm Muslim, right?
		
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			Fantastic. More, the more the
merrier. But at the same time, it
		
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			has to be genuine. Otherwise, you
know, these things become
		
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			difficult. So that's why we have
the students at the high school
		
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			level, they are going to send the
emails but you would see see your
		
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			parents or have your parents sign
on to your email in some way so
		
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			that they know that this is
genuine. I think the only thing
		
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			that I would make clear at the
middle school and elementary
		
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			school level, I would still
suggest that parents send the
		
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			email and you know, their kids can
be part of that.
		
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			Salam Alaikum. Everybody. My name
is Dena Brahma. Sorry about my
		
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			voice. I'm losing it. Being a
teacher. I know. A lot of talking
		
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			and all yelling, so now it's gone.
		
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			Okay, so I am currently a
substitute teacher at Dublin
		
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			Unified School District. I was
subbing all the way from K to K to
		
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			12. But then I decided to focus on
elementary school kids,
		
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			specifically Murray Elementary,
because both my children attend
		
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			very first and fourth grade. So
being a sub there, I got very
		
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			familiar with the teachers, the
staff, everybody who was there.
		
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			And we started talking about
Ramadan and Ramadan is coming and
		
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			how I'll be fasting as an adult
and I won't be sitting with them
		
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			in the lunchroom. And they started
asking me about the kids. What are
		
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			we going to do about the little
ones? Are they going to fast? I'd
		
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			said at their age, they're not
necessarily required to fast but
		
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			there will be a quite a few of
them who will want to like my
		
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			kindergartener last year, when he
was in kindergarten, he used to
		
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			fast so I had to tell his teacher
ahead of time that you know, just
		
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			in case anything were to happen,
let him hydrate, let him break his
		
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			Fazzy still young, you know, but
then he also did his own
		
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			presentation in front of the whole
classroom telling them what
		
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			Ramadan is about, and how he fast
so that was like a turning point
		
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			for me while I was like these kids
now
		
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			In a place to go, right during
lunch and recess, there's still so
		
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			little like, at any point, they'll
just want to break their fast. So
		
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			I decided, let me say, let me do
something this year about it. My
		
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			fourth grader was on it the like
the whole, the whole way.
		
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			So she said, Mom, why don't we try
to set up a corner or ask one of
		
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			the teachers we can take over a
classroom. Or I can sit and read a
		
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			book or do something because I
don't want to be outside with
		
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			everybody else, especially when it
starts getting warmer. They want
		
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			to hydrate they want to, you know,
be with their friends and snacks
		
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			and lunch and whatever. So I told
her, let me let me talk to the
		
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			administration at the school and
see what they say. They said, go
		
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			ahead. So I started asking around
teachers, a voluntarily just
		
00:30:41 --> 00:30:44
			asked, Hey, I can give you my
classroom here. And there, I had
		
00:30:44 --> 00:30:46
			quite a few teachers who asked for
it.
		
00:30:47 --> 00:30:52
			But in the end, I went to the
librarian. And she said, Yes, you
		
00:30:52 --> 00:30:55
			can, you know, the library is big
enough for I can hold a good
		
00:30:55 --> 00:30:59
			amount of students during a
certain amount of time. And you
		
00:30:59 --> 00:31:03
			can take a corner or table or
something and focus on just let
		
00:31:03 --> 00:31:06
			them sit there, let them read a
book, or play games, she has a
		
00:31:06 --> 00:31:08
			whole bunch of games for them to
play. I said, You know what, let
		
00:31:08 --> 00:31:12
			me do it more Ramadan based for
our Muslim kids, is not just for
		
00:31:12 --> 00:31:15
			Muslims, it's for non Muslims to
have their friends want to join,
		
00:31:15 --> 00:31:19
			learn a little bit about you know,
what we do in Ramadan? Why not? So
		
00:31:19 --> 00:31:24
			I started to do it going through
Pinterest, YouTube, all those
		
00:31:24 --> 00:31:27
			social media sites trying to find
ideas for some things that our
		
00:31:27 --> 00:31:30
			kids can do during that time
during recess, even Pete also as
		
00:31:30 --> 00:31:38
			well. So I had crosswords made
word searches, matching games,
		
00:31:39 --> 00:31:42
			coloring pages, all you can think
of, I have it all with me to offer
		
00:31:42 --> 00:31:47
			you guys want to see what I have.
And I just think that all of us
		
00:31:47 --> 00:31:50
			not as edgy. Like as an educator,
I see it like they should have
		
00:31:50 --> 00:31:52
			this garden. But as a parent, I
find it more important that my
		
00:31:52 --> 00:31:56
			kids have that area, that space to
be in during this time. So I
		
00:31:56 --> 00:31:59
			recommend that everybody just take
that little step forward, you
		
00:31:59 --> 00:32:02
			know, just to even just to the
teacher to say, hey, can we make a
		
00:32:02 --> 00:32:05
			corner in your classroom or
something for our kids to sit in,
		
00:32:05 --> 00:32:09
			and let it well be well known
around the entire school, I'm so
		
00:32:09 --> 00:32:13
			glad that I'm not a part of Dublin
unified, because it's very
		
00:32:13 --> 00:32:18
			diverse, very accepting, you know,
it's a time of acceptance, and you
		
00:32:18 --> 00:32:22
			know, getting, you know, we're
getting somewhere. So I think
		
00:32:22 --> 00:32:25
			everybody has just, we just take
that little tiny step, we can all
		
00:32:25 --> 00:32:29
			make a change. Like, if it's just
we start with our little
		
00:32:29 --> 00:32:32
			classrooms, it will start moving
on to districts, onto other
		
00:32:32 --> 00:32:35
			districts and whatnot. So I think
it's very, very important that we
		
00:32:35 --> 00:32:41
			try as parents to do something
about it. So yes, and I can show
		
00:32:41 --> 00:32:44
			you anything that I have. If you
have any want any ideas, I'm here
		
00:32:44 --> 00:32:48
			for you, to support you in that.
Thank you, just like.
		
00:33:00 --> 00:33:00
			You,
		
00:33:02 --> 00:33:07
			before we open it up to all of
you, this process is really about
		
00:33:07 --> 00:33:12
			us coming together. And I know I
know, many of you in the room
		
00:33:12 --> 00:33:14
			right now. And I know that you've
all done similar things, right?
		
00:33:15 --> 00:33:20
			This, this screen is showing right
here. This was Shane's handiwork.
		
00:33:20 --> 00:33:25
			Right. So, you know, all of us
have have done this work together,
		
00:33:25 --> 00:33:26
			right? We've done
		
00:33:27 --> 00:33:30
			book drives for the library, we've
done decorating in our school
		
00:33:30 --> 00:33:34
			offices, we've done activity upon
activity in our kids classrooms,
		
00:33:34 --> 00:33:38
			right? What we want to do now is
to take those efforts that have
		
00:33:38 --> 00:33:42
			been separate and make it in sync
into one so that we can do the
		
00:33:42 --> 00:33:47
			same thing across the district for
everyone. So that it's not just my
		
00:33:47 --> 00:33:51
			students, my child's classroom,
but all the other classrooms that
		
00:33:51 --> 00:33:54
			may not even have a Muslim kid in
it. But then they know and they
		
00:33:54 --> 00:33:58
			have the opportunity to support
our kids, and to be there for our
		
00:33:58 --> 00:34:02
			kids the way that we would hope
that they can be. So I would just
		
00:34:02 --> 00:34:06
			want to take this opportunity to
open it up to all of you
		
00:34:07 --> 00:34:08
			what happened.
		
00:34:12 --> 00:34:15
			But yeah, so I want to take this
opportunity to open it up to all
		
00:34:15 --> 00:34:20
			of you to hear I'm sure all of you
have had amazing experiences and
		
00:34:20 --> 00:34:24
			done amazing work. One of the
other projects that we're working
		
00:34:24 --> 00:34:27
			on and another panelist that was
supposed to be here Shazia
		
00:34:27 --> 00:34:30
			Kajaani, she couldn't join us.
She's actually the advisor for the
		
00:34:30 --> 00:34:34
			MSA have fallen. And she's putting
together some video bulletins that
		
00:34:34 --> 00:34:37
			she's going to share with middle
other middle schools across the
		
00:34:37 --> 00:34:42
			district. And, you know, she was
talking about how the students
		
00:34:42 --> 00:34:45
			have been, again, a really big
driving force and making that
		
00:34:45 --> 00:34:51
			happen. We're trying to create a
list of books that we can give to
		
00:34:51 --> 00:34:55
			the libraries across the district
and say, these are great books for
		
00:34:55 --> 00:34:57
			you to have within your
collection. Because as she found
		
00:34:57 --> 00:35:00
			out, they have a very limited
selection of books.
		
00:35:00 --> 00:35:02
			because particularly at the middle
school and high school level
		
00:35:03 --> 00:35:07
			around Islam and Muslims, so
they're very open to getting more
		
00:35:07 --> 00:35:10
			books and so it's our you know,
it's that's there for us then to
		
00:35:10 --> 00:35:13
			to avail ourselves of that and to
make sure that we're giving them
		
00:35:13 --> 00:35:17
			everything that they need. So if
you guys have book suggestions, or
		
00:35:17 --> 00:35:19
			if you would like to get involved
in that, please let me know about
		
00:35:19 --> 00:35:20
			that as well.
		
00:35:21 --> 00:35:22
			Yes, it's really
		
00:35:30 --> 00:35:32
			great. Good job guys.
		
00:35:35 --> 00:35:35
			Okay
		
00:35:41 --> 00:35:44
			okay, I'm gonna ask Serbia,
Serbia, can you tell us a little
		
00:35:44 --> 00:35:49
			bit about the what you guys have
been doing? Sort of advocate for
		
00:35:49 --> 00:35:50
			diversity across the district?
		
00:35:51 --> 00:35:52
			I don't think any like.
		
00:35:54 --> 00:35:59
			So at first of all, Dublin is very
receptive ever since the new super
		
00:36:00 --> 00:36:04
			superintendent has come on. He's
very open. And and Imani and I met
		
00:36:04 --> 00:36:09
			him when he first came on to talk
about starting this inclusive
		
00:36:09 --> 00:36:11
			program and and
		
00:36:12 --> 00:36:16
			awareness throughout the district.
And just remember, it's step by
		
00:36:16 --> 00:36:19
			step it takes it's not an
overnight thing, it's step by
		
00:36:19 --> 00:36:24
			step, because it law it has to do
with curriculum, curriculum is the
		
00:36:24 --> 00:36:27
			next step where the district is
moving towards. And at the middle
		
00:36:27 --> 00:36:30
			school level, we're finally at
high school level, we're finally
		
00:36:30 --> 00:36:33
			going that way, there's electives
now that students can take in and
		
00:36:33 --> 00:36:37
			they're moving, and as years move
forward, more things will be
		
00:36:37 --> 00:36:41
			added. But at the middle school
level, the letter that went out,
		
00:36:42 --> 00:36:46
			a lot of teachers already are
aware, because parents throughout
		
00:36:46 --> 00:36:50
			the years have brought it to their
attention. So teachers are very
		
00:36:50 --> 00:36:53
			understanding PE teachers there,
they all know, hey, Ramana,
		
00:36:53 --> 00:36:57
			Ramadan is coming, I'm going to
give my that student actually all
		
00:36:57 --> 00:37:00
			middle school, they can get dual
writing that whole month to
		
00:37:00 --> 00:37:03
			writing assignments, they don't
need to do anything else, if they
		
00:37:03 --> 00:37:08
			want to walk, that's their choice
at the library during the month of
		
00:37:08 --> 00:37:11
			Ramadan is going to be place a
place where kids can go hang out
		
00:37:11 --> 00:37:15
			at lunch, instead of sitting
outside. That's already an area
		
00:37:15 --> 00:37:19
			where the librarian has fixed and
worked out. So though that's
		
00:37:19 --> 00:37:22
			something for the kids during
lunch. But the teachers are
		
00:37:22 --> 00:37:26
			already aware and are willing to
work with all students. But when
		
00:37:26 --> 00:37:31
			it comes to the parents, the
parents need to understand that
		
00:37:31 --> 00:37:34
			there's some things can be
changed, some things cannot be
		
00:37:34 --> 00:37:38
			changed. But an email makes a big
difference. I'll always I always
		
00:37:38 --> 00:37:43
			ask parents to email the teachers
first. Let them no, and wait to
		
00:37:43 --> 00:37:48
			hear back from them, then, and
then make them understand if you
		
00:37:48 --> 00:37:50
			want to set up a face to face
meeting and the teachers
		
00:37:50 --> 00:37:53
			available, then do that. But the
teachers are very responsive,
		
00:37:53 --> 00:37:59
			email them and let them know, hey,
my child is going too fast. This
		
00:37:59 --> 00:38:02
			is the challenges that they might
feel. And they were they're all
		
00:38:02 --> 00:38:06
			aware. Just like right now I know
that the eighth grade, there was
		
00:38:06 --> 00:38:09
			an eighth grade dance going to
happen on April 21. But the
		
00:38:09 --> 00:38:13
			principal said, You know what? No,
that's IID. So he told the PFC,
		
00:38:13 --> 00:38:16
			you've got to move it. Because we
want all students to be able to
		
00:38:16 --> 00:38:19
			come to the dance for the
promotion down through eighth
		
00:38:19 --> 00:38:24
			grade. So they're all aware, they
just need help
		
00:38:25 --> 00:38:28
			changing or getting to the next
step. Because remember, it's new
		
00:38:28 --> 00:38:33
			for them. But they're willing to
make the changes and and try, just
		
00:38:33 --> 00:38:35
			like for you, if you're going your
child's not coming to school, then
		
00:38:35 --> 00:38:40
			call it in and say this is our
religious holiday, it gets more as
		
00:38:40 --> 00:38:45
			an excused absence, it doesn't get
marked against you.
		
00:38:46 --> 00:38:50
			That's whether you on the weather,
whatever day you celebrate one or
		
00:38:50 --> 00:38:54
			two days, you tell them it is a
Muslim holiday. It's an excused
		
00:38:54 --> 00:38:58
			absence, but you have to call it
in so that it gets put in the
		
00:38:58 --> 00:39:01
			system that is an excuse holiday,
because the attendance person is
		
00:39:01 --> 00:39:06
			aware, the dates have been given.
They know. So the things are in
		
00:39:06 --> 00:39:10
			place, but we need to keep
bringing the awareness. We need to
		
00:39:10 --> 00:39:13
			keep letting them know, you know
what, this might not work, you
		
00:39:13 --> 00:39:18
			know, can we do this? And they're
all very accommodating. The same
		
00:39:18 --> 00:39:22
			thing at the high school. Yes,
there's been issues in the past,
		
00:39:22 --> 00:39:23
			but then again,
		
00:39:24 --> 00:39:29
			when you talk to the teacher, and
when you bring up the issues, Pe
		
00:39:29 --> 00:39:32
			is a big thing. I think in high
school where some teachers are not
		
00:39:32 --> 00:39:36
			as lenient as others, then you
bring that awareness to the
		
00:39:36 --> 00:39:40
			principal. You start you know, by
going up the ladder, talk to your
		
00:39:40 --> 00:39:42
			principal and saying listen, I've
already spoken to the teachers.
		
00:39:42 --> 00:39:45
			I've already told them what the
issues are that I can do this and
		
00:39:45 --> 00:39:48
			that. If that doesn't work, then
you go next year to your assistant
		
00:39:48 --> 00:39:51
			principal. Assistant Principals
isn't listening. Then you go to
		
00:39:51 --> 00:39:55
			your principal, and then you get
your parents involved. And if you
		
00:39:55 --> 00:39:58
			guys are going to email your
teachers from your D USD, your
		
00:39:58 --> 00:40:00
			parents cannot be copied on there
because
		
00:40:00 --> 00:40:03
			They won't get the email. So you
have to then either there's that
		
00:40:03 --> 00:40:05
			one issue if they're going to use
their USD emails, even if they
		
00:40:05 --> 00:40:09
			want parents part of it. So you
might have to go a different route
		
00:40:09 --> 00:40:13
			about if you want to include your
parents in the email. But it's a
		
00:40:13 --> 00:40:17
			very open district, and I don't
think there's going to be much of
		
00:40:17 --> 00:40:20
			an issue. They listen, and they
will try to do their best to
		
00:40:20 --> 00:40:22
			accommodate anything possible.
		
00:40:23 --> 00:40:27
			Absolutely, what we actually sent,
what I can send to you, you know,
		
00:40:27 --> 00:40:31
			and what he was sent out to
everyone was a PDF. So if you can
		
00:40:31 --> 00:40:34
			do like an electronic signature on
that page and just edit it, you
		
00:40:34 --> 00:40:39
			can always send that, you know,
edited PDF to your students,
		
00:40:39 --> 00:40:43
			teacher as well. My definitely, I
mean, they, they are very, very
		
00:40:43 --> 00:40:48
			accommodating. But they and I kind
of I respect this, and I actually
		
00:40:48 --> 00:40:51
			don't want them to make
assumptions about who's Muslim and
		
00:40:51 --> 00:40:55
			who's not right. So they're not
going to reach out to our
		
00:40:55 --> 00:40:58
			students, they're not going to
make assumptions about, you know,
		
00:40:58 --> 00:41:01
			who's practicing and how much
they're practicing. It's upon us
		
00:41:01 --> 00:41:04
			to request those things. So
		
00:41:05 --> 00:41:08
			say, Listen was pushed in or not,
right? They can't send an email,
		
00:41:08 --> 00:41:09
			it's up to us.
		
00:41:11 --> 00:41:15
			You can't they cannot tell them.
So it's really up to the parents
		
00:41:15 --> 00:41:17
			or up to the students to bring up
the awareness.
		
00:41:19 --> 00:41:21
			Quick question, so.
		
00:41:27 --> 00:41:31
			Thank you, Sonic. I have a quick
question. I can't see anybody
		
00:41:31 --> 00:41:37
			because I don't have classes on so
I just saw an audio. So we live in
		
00:41:37 --> 00:41:41
			Pleasanton. I haven't heard
anybody I've done stuff at the
		
00:41:41 --> 00:41:44
			elementary school level, because
it's like a family. Everybody
		
00:41:44 --> 00:41:48
			knows you. Now I've got two middle
schoolers. So I don't know, what's
		
00:41:48 --> 00:41:52
			the feedback been from middle
school, my oldest son was COVID
		
00:41:52 --> 00:41:57
			for a big chunk of his fasting
experience in middle school. So I
		
00:41:57 --> 00:42:02
			want to email the teachers give
them the heads up. But what's what
		
00:42:02 --> 00:42:06
			do you think the feedback feedback
has been from Pleasanton? We
		
00:42:06 --> 00:42:08
			haven't had a pleasant and the
funny thing is this letter right
		
00:42:08 --> 00:42:13
			here. I sent it out to my friends
who are involved in the PTA at San
		
00:42:13 --> 00:42:17
			Ramon. And I said, change it
around, tweak it to what you need
		
00:42:17 --> 00:42:19
			to and send it to your
superintendent, district office, I
		
00:42:19 --> 00:42:24
			would ask this, take the letter,
same thing, it has to start, start
		
00:42:24 --> 00:42:27
			from the higher up, right. So you
email that letter to your
		
00:42:27 --> 00:42:31
			superintendent, set a meeting with
get a group of parents, your
		
00:42:31 --> 00:42:35
			whoever's involved, who are not,
Oh, get a group of parents, sit
		
00:42:35 --> 00:42:39
			down with the superintendent, talk
to him, and tell him what you're
		
00:42:39 --> 00:42:43
			trying to achieve. For the
community that is part of the
		
00:42:43 --> 00:42:49
			Pleasanton school district. So
they're by state law, you have to
		
00:42:49 --> 00:42:52
			have religious accommodations,
that is part of state law,
		
00:42:54 --> 00:42:58
			how they do it, or what they do
matters upon districts, and then
		
00:42:58 --> 00:43:03
			school sites. But state law,
that's your that's your right. So
		
00:43:03 --> 00:43:06
			I would say start with a dialogue
with the superintendent, he's your
		
00:43:06 --> 00:43:11
			higher up, who can then push down
that letter to everyone in the
		
00:43:11 --> 00:43:16
			district, from the principal, to
all staff. That's where you start.
		
00:43:16 --> 00:43:18
			And then you can meet with your
own individual teachers and say,
		
00:43:18 --> 00:43:21
			Listen, we've got this many
students who are going to be do
		
00:43:21 --> 00:43:26
			this, how can we help them? A
conversation goes a long way. And
		
00:43:26 --> 00:43:29
			that's what we started him on. And
I long time ago, and then we want
		
00:43:29 --> 00:43:33
			to get to the next steps. But that
letter has been great, because
		
00:43:33 --> 00:43:36
			that letter was sent from the
superintendent to everyone. And
		
00:43:36 --> 00:43:39
			the principals are all aware. So I
would say you can start off with
		
00:43:39 --> 00:43:42
			that. And I would say do it sooner
than later.
		
00:43:43 --> 00:43:47
			Basically next week, yeah. Right.
So yeah, I mean, I would tell you
		
00:43:47 --> 00:43:49
			that to go ahead and just email
your
		
00:43:50 --> 00:43:53
			child's teachers individually, so
that they know what's going on
		
00:43:53 --> 00:43:57
			with your child while you
organize, right? Don't delay,
		
00:43:57 --> 00:44:01
			like, what's what you can do for
your child. And while you start
		
00:44:01 --> 00:44:05
			organizing with everyone else, if
you do find out that there are
		
00:44:05 --> 00:44:07
			parents that are involved that
want to take this, I would be
		
00:44:07 --> 00:44:11
			happy to meet with them. What I
found when we were doing all of
		
00:44:11 --> 00:44:16
			this is there's not a single
fasting policy on the books or
		
00:44:16 --> 00:44:19
			Ramadan policy on the books
anywhere in the state of
		
00:44:19 --> 00:44:23
			California. So I was like, well,
let's try Dublin is a small
		
00:44:23 --> 00:44:27
			district, they're very open,
there's quite a few of us that are
		
00:44:27 --> 00:44:30
			there and participate there in
Iraq in a regular way. So they
		
00:44:30 --> 00:44:34
			were very open to us. So what
we're hoping is that this will be
		
00:44:34 --> 00:44:37
			a year where you know, it is a
little more official things are
		
00:44:37 --> 00:44:40
			happening. If this is successful,
successful. We would like to see
		
00:44:40 --> 00:44:44
			it happen in other districts as
well. Right. So inshallah is just
		
00:44:44 --> 00:44:47
			the beginning. But if you do, you
know, find that you have an
		
00:44:47 --> 00:44:50
			opportunity, I'd be happy to
accompany you to meet with them.
		
00:44:51 --> 00:44:54
			Yes, yeah, I think you sort of
answered my question with your
		
00:44:54 --> 00:44:58
			last statement, but so much of
this great effort, right. I think
		
00:44:58 --> 00:44:59
			I'm still hearing
		
00:45:00 --> 00:45:02
			Like there's a playbook that is
missing, like, have you guys
		
00:45:02 --> 00:45:06
			considered writing a playbook?
Like, follow these steps? Step
		
00:45:06 --> 00:45:10
			one, step two, step three, like
and also where you guys can come
		
00:45:10 --> 00:45:13
			in. Because you have, you probably
experienced the questions that get
		
00:45:13 --> 00:45:17
			asked, what are the appropriate
responses to those questions? So
		
00:45:17 --> 00:45:20
			something like there is only like
a how to how to guide? That would
		
00:45:20 --> 00:45:21
			be more useful? Yeah.
		
00:45:22 --> 00:45:28
			Oh, yeah, definitely Sharla. You
know, what, what are my, our
		
00:45:28 --> 00:45:33
			eventual intention is, is to do,
like a policy brief, so that we
		
00:45:33 --> 00:45:36
			can take it to places where we
don't know anyone, whether we
		
00:45:36 --> 00:45:38
			don't know, the Muslim families
that are there, but we can talk to
		
00:45:38 --> 00:45:42
			them about statistically, these
are the issues, right? I mean,
		
00:45:42 --> 00:45:45
			it's an unfortunate statistic, but
Muslim students are bullied at
		
00:45:45 --> 00:45:48
			twice the national rate. Right. So
this is something that happens,
		
00:45:48 --> 00:45:52
			one out of every four of those
incidents is from an adult from an
		
00:45:52 --> 00:45:56
			educator and adult in this in the
school system. So this is
		
00:45:56 --> 00:45:59
			something that's happening, so we
have to address it, right. But,
		
00:45:59 --> 00:46:02
			you know, I don't I don't like to
focus on the negative aspects,
		
00:46:02 --> 00:46:06
			because the opportunity in front
of us is to do something about it,
		
00:46:06 --> 00:46:11
			right? Like, this is what all you
know, we all ask, why do these
		
00:46:11 --> 00:46:14
			horrible things happen, right? And
the way I always look at it, as
		
00:46:14 --> 00:46:19
			those are all opportunities for us
to rise up to those things, and to
		
00:46:19 --> 00:46:22
			do something about it. So this is
how, you know, this is what I felt
		
00:46:22 --> 00:46:25
			was the best way for us to begin.
So what we wanted to do was to try
		
00:46:25 --> 00:46:28
			it out here so that we could get
that data like what does it look
		
00:46:28 --> 00:46:31
			like? What does that sense of
belonging look like? Before the
		
00:46:31 --> 00:46:34
			policies in place and after the
policies in place? As you know,
		
00:46:34 --> 00:46:38
			that climate survey just went out
this week, right from the Dublin
		
00:46:38 --> 00:46:42
			Unified School District asking for
parents to talk about what their
		
00:46:42 --> 00:46:46
			kids sense of belonging is at
school, one of their one of the
		
00:46:46 --> 00:46:48
			ways that they're trying to
improve that is to do things like
		
00:46:48 --> 00:46:51
			this, these diversity and
inclusion policies. So there is a
		
00:46:51 --> 00:46:55
			window of opportunity, right now
there's grant money from the
		
00:46:55 --> 00:46:59
			state, there's a huge push across
the state to really look at
		
00:46:59 --> 00:47:02
			diversity and inclusion policies.
So I would encourage you that to,
		
00:47:03 --> 00:47:06
			you know, try to talk to someone
and you know, at least get that
		
00:47:06 --> 00:47:12
			door open. So we can take is going
through a diversity inclusive
		
00:47:12 --> 00:47:16
			study, right? We got to your
districts, I happen to be a part
		
00:47:16 --> 00:47:16
			of it.
		
00:47:17 --> 00:47:21
			They all have to have a parent on
it. We got to say I'm interested,
		
00:47:21 --> 00:47:24
			if you're doing any diversity
training, or if you're doing any
		
00:47:24 --> 00:47:28
			diversity kind of committee order.
Get involved.
		
00:47:29 --> 00:47:29
			Right now.
		
00:47:30 --> 00:47:34
			In our district, we started it was
starting and I'm on that part. The
		
00:47:34 --> 00:47:39
			goal is to also get changes in the
curriculum. Curriculum. You know,
		
00:47:39 --> 00:47:43
			it's it's baby steps, but change
is what's needed. For high school
		
00:47:43 --> 00:47:47
			kids, middle school kids, eat up
during your history class, speak
		
00:47:47 --> 00:47:52
			up during your English class. How
are your students going to know is
		
00:47:52 --> 00:47:54
			when you speak up? Right? When you
tell them when you tell your
		
00:47:54 --> 00:47:58
			teachers present, what Ramadan is
teach. If you don't present, no
		
00:47:58 --> 00:48:02
			one's going to know you have to
middle school. These kids went
		
00:48:02 --> 00:48:04
			around getting from the MSU
		
00:48:06 --> 00:48:08
			asked everyone to say Happy
Ramadan.
		
00:48:09 --> 00:48:14
			Everyone knows what it is. Right?
Meeting of social media brought
		
00:48:14 --> 00:48:20
			more awareness. So if you guys
don't speak up, and off, no one's
		
00:48:20 --> 00:48:21
			going to know.
		
00:48:22 --> 00:48:28
			Okay, I want to invite Shazia to
at least take up the mic and talk
		
00:48:28 --> 00:48:31
			a little bit about what she's
doing at Fallon Middle School.
		
00:48:35 --> 00:48:39
			As you can see, she's like a very
popular advisor there, right.
		
00:48:42 --> 00:48:43
			Here you go.
		
00:48:46 --> 00:48:47
			Alright, well,
		
00:48:49 --> 00:48:53
			sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry, come
everyone. I'll just give a very
		
00:48:53 --> 00:48:56
			brief talk. I wasn't part of the
beginning discussion. But
		
00:48:57 --> 00:49:01
			basically, you know, as he was
saying, the playbook, we kind of
		
00:49:01 --> 00:49:04
			have to create the playbook and
it's gonna be a unique experience
		
00:49:04 --> 00:49:07
			everywhere. But that, you know,
there's definitely an openness and
		
00:49:07 --> 00:49:12
			and there's a change in attitude.
And so I have to take advantage of
		
00:49:12 --> 00:49:18
			that right now. At Fallon Middle
School. I found that like, as the
		
00:49:18 --> 00:49:22
			awareness is increasing, the AE,
the kids are feeling great.
		
00:49:22 --> 00:49:25
			They're feeling included. The
second part is, is that
		
00:49:26 --> 00:49:29
			you're just finding that little
little changes, like, the
		
00:49:29 --> 00:49:32
			librarian came up to me and said,
Hey, would you mind looking at all
		
00:49:32 --> 00:49:36
			the books I have in the library,
see what I have in Ramadan? And he
		
00:49:36 --> 00:49:39
			had like two books, and said, you
know, what do you what should I
		
00:49:39 --> 00:49:42
			do? So I brought him some books,
he chronicle them, he put them in
		
00:49:42 --> 00:49:46
			the system, you know? And he said,
Could you make a display for
		
00:49:46 --> 00:49:49
			Ramadan? We usually have one for
Women's History Month black
		
00:49:49 --> 00:49:52
			history. Sure, no problem. The
history teacher reached out to me
		
00:49:52 --> 00:49:56
			as they're kind of finding out
that we exist and we're kind of,
		
00:49:56 --> 00:49:59
			you know, the inroads and so the
history to said, you know, can I
		
00:49:59 --> 00:49:59
			meet with you?
		
00:50:00 --> 00:50:04
			You sure walk walked in and talk
to her? She's like, What can I do?
		
00:50:04 --> 00:50:07
			I'm like, hey, you know, I don't I
don't want to pose these kids
		
00:50:07 --> 00:50:10
			into, like, pointed questions, I
want to ask them open. And because
		
00:50:10 --> 00:50:14
			I'm also getting to know the MSU.
And I'm gonna ask him questions
		
00:50:14 --> 00:50:17
			like, Have you had any issues have
anything going on? You know, a lot
		
00:50:17 --> 00:50:21
			of them are very nervous going to
school at nine on alone. 911 the
		
00:50:21 --> 00:50:23
			way that discussion is, so I
shared that with a history
		
00:50:23 --> 00:50:27
			teacher, and I said, Hey, there's
resources out there, there's ing
		
00:50:27 --> 00:50:31
			who makes videos comes and does
classroom discussions, she took
		
00:50:31 --> 00:50:35
			the website down, she's been
corresponding with them. She said,
		
00:50:35 --> 00:50:37
			she's going to try to get them to
come visit. Like, there's lots and
		
00:50:37 --> 00:50:42
			lots of lights there. It's just a
matter of being visible, being
		
00:50:42 --> 00:50:47
			open, teaching our kids to even
you know, how to navigate the
		
00:50:47 --> 00:50:50
			process, how to how to advocate
for themselves, that's also a
		
00:50:50 --> 00:50:53
			process when they're younger,
they're not, they're not sure how
		
00:50:53 --> 00:50:56
			to, you know, like, when the first
MSU meeting, I'm like, Okay, what
		
00:50:56 --> 00:50:59
			should we do this year? What
should we, you know, they want to
		
00:50:59 --> 00:51:03
			gym every day, every Friday, they
want, you know, II whatever, they
		
00:51:03 --> 00:51:06
			want it all and they you don't
want to squash that enthusiasm.
		
00:51:07 --> 00:51:11
			But you also have to teach them
how to navigate what what's you
		
00:51:11 --> 00:51:14
			know, you have to kind of
piecemeal, it, it's going to be a
		
00:51:14 --> 00:51:17
			it's going to be a process, and
you have to teach them how to do
		
00:51:17 --> 00:51:20
			that, how to work with other
groups, like there was
		
00:51:21 --> 00:51:24
			the black, it was black history
month in February, and I told
		
00:51:24 --> 00:51:26
			them, hey, let's do a
collaboration between them.
		
00:51:26 --> 00:51:30
			There's so many black Muslims out
there. And so we collaborated with
		
00:51:30 --> 00:51:34
			the black students on campus, and
we did a call and we grew like,
		
00:51:34 --> 00:51:38
			our friendships grew, our you
know, our inclusiveness grew,
		
00:51:38 --> 00:51:41
			we're seen differently. But it's a
process, it's going to take time
		
00:51:41 --> 00:51:45
			you have to be patient. But for
sure, as Sylvia said, an Imam
		
00:51:45 --> 00:51:49
			said, the dialogue is change. I'm
part of the DI council that they
		
00:51:49 --> 00:51:53
			have in Dublin. They're definitely
open to it, they're definitely
		
00:51:53 --> 00:51:57
			tuned in. As soon as we released
all the dates for Ramadan this
		
00:51:57 --> 00:52:01
			year, they've been making, you
know, so many changes, in terms of
		
00:52:01 --> 00:52:04
			like, there was a school dance on
that Friday, eighth graders were
		
00:52:04 --> 00:52:07
			going to graduate and do some prep
work, there was a fifth grade who
		
00:52:07 --> 00:52:11
			was going to come to tour for for
middle school. And they didn't
		
00:52:11 --> 00:52:15
			realize, you know, there was
testing. And but then, you know,
		
00:52:16 --> 00:52:18
			one of the assistant principals
reached out and said, Hey, I'm
		
00:52:18 --> 00:52:20
			actually going to the calendar
right now and changing any of the
		
00:52:20 --> 00:52:24
			things I can change. But you know,
it's also, you know, once they
		
00:52:24 --> 00:52:27
			start doing that, they're the
attitudes, right, but it's also
		
00:52:27 --> 00:52:30
			giving them tools, I'm like, Hey,
let me give you the next five
		
00:52:30 --> 00:52:34
			years of dates. So I emailed her
back with like, because, I mean, I
		
00:52:34 --> 00:52:37
			sent him give or take one or two
days, like give some, you know,
		
00:52:37 --> 00:52:39
			leeway, because sometimes there's
Moon sighting and other other
		
00:52:39 --> 00:52:44
			ways, other nuances to that, but I
did share, you know, all those
		
00:52:44 --> 00:52:46
			dates, because I believe they
their calendars are planned years
		
00:52:46 --> 00:52:51
			in advance, and they are trying to
pivot be patient with them for
		
00:52:51 --> 00:52:54
			this year. But you know, this is
also an opportunity for us to kind
		
00:52:54 --> 00:52:59
			of organize ourselves and set the
pace for the following year. So
		
00:52:59 --> 00:53:02
			it's just kind of part of the
system. Once you are part of the
		
00:53:02 --> 00:53:05
			system, it's hard to break that
it's just, it's just, you know,
		
00:53:05 --> 00:53:08
			but helping them guiding them
through the process. It's not, you
		
00:53:08 --> 00:53:13
			know, and just being approachable,
friendly. You know, every time I
		
00:53:13 --> 00:53:16
			write them something, I'm like,
Hey, if you need anything, because
		
00:53:16 --> 00:53:18
			there's sensitive matters that
come up on campus, they're not
		
00:53:18 --> 00:53:20
			sure how to handle though they
should know that they can come to
		
00:53:20 --> 00:53:21
			you.
		
00:53:22 --> 00:53:26
			But, you know, I think all the
work that everyone has done has
		
00:53:26 --> 00:53:29
			led to this, it's not a one day,
it's not that oh my god, all of a
		
00:53:29 --> 00:53:33
			sudden, this happened, the years
and years of work that everybody's
		
00:53:33 --> 00:53:36
			done and their little school and
their little district that has
		
00:53:36 --> 00:53:39
			basically led us to this point,
it's a beautiful moment and we
		
00:53:39 --> 00:53:43
			should you know, be super happy
and but you know, it's also been
		
00:53:43 --> 00:53:48
			treated delicately and do it
right. You know, we should ask for
		
00:53:48 --> 00:53:51
			the things that are really
important. And we should you know,
		
00:53:51 --> 00:53:56
			educate there's there's a lot of
lack of knowledge in terms of you
		
00:53:56 --> 00:53:56
			know,
		
00:53:57 --> 00:54:00
			you know what Ramadan is? I mean,
a lot of teachers don't know they
		
00:54:00 --> 00:54:03
			don't drink water. I mean, it's
you just assume they would they
		
00:54:03 --> 00:54:07
			don't they have to be told you
know, they don't know what people
		
00:54:07 --> 00:54:08
			do on eat.
		
00:54:10 --> 00:54:11
			Very different. Yep.
		
00:54:13 --> 00:54:20
			Exactly. Like, actually the dates
when when that little glitch about
		
00:54:20 --> 00:54:23
			the incoming fifth graders, you
have a calendar, which actually
		
00:54:24 --> 00:54:25
			just pushed down
		
00:54:27 --> 00:54:32
			about the principals are looking
at it because it's not intention
		
00:54:32 --> 00:54:38
			is just an oversight, which the
willing to rectify right away. But
		
00:54:38 --> 00:54:44
			how we go about it really matters,
because when one parent might send
		
00:54:44 --> 00:54:49
			an email it it might trigger
something else. So the point is to
		
00:54:49 --> 00:54:53
			ask in a nice manner has I'm going
to echo what Ilan said, you know
		
00:54:53 --> 00:54:58
			how to ask how you email first,
because otherwise, it just changes
		
00:54:58 --> 00:55:00
			into something else and
		
00:55:00 --> 00:55:03
			And that's what we're trying not
to do. And one thing I'd like to
		
00:55:03 --> 00:55:06
			say that I'm I mean, I'm finding,
there's a learning experience for
		
00:55:06 --> 00:55:09
			me as well, I mean, I have two
middle school kids, but they're
		
00:55:09 --> 00:55:11
			not in the public school system,
they've been going to a private
		
00:55:11 --> 00:55:14
			school. And so what I've learned
is,
		
00:55:15 --> 00:55:20
			you know, as you deal with a
larger forum, and a lot of kids,
		
00:55:20 --> 00:55:23
			you know, we're getting
opportunities to make a video for,
		
00:55:23 --> 00:55:27
			you know, the video bulletin or be
part of a class or an advisory.
		
00:55:27 --> 00:55:30
			But when we're creating content,
there's so much content that
		
00:55:30 --> 00:55:36
			exists on the web, for Ramadan for
eat forever, but it's dry content.
		
00:55:36 --> 00:55:42
			It's a slide show, it's a scholar
talking for 30 minutes, these,
		
00:55:42 --> 00:55:45
			these kids are living in a
different world, they're not,
		
00:55:45 --> 00:55:48
			they're going to just tune out
within one minute from even our
		
00:55:48 --> 00:55:52
			own kids will tune out. So we've
been trying to create content that
		
00:55:52 --> 00:55:57
			is real, and it's substantial, but
it's also in a way where it
		
00:55:57 --> 00:56:02
			appeals to that age group. And so
we're trying to put the, you know,
		
00:56:02 --> 00:56:04
			like, it was funny, I told them,
I'll write the script, you guys
		
00:56:04 --> 00:56:07
			make the video and they said, Miss
Kahn, they call me Miss Kahn, do
		
00:56:07 --> 00:56:11
			you think we could Gen Z the
script before you and I like
		
00:56:11 --> 00:56:14
			because they do because it has to
be there, it has to be their
		
00:56:15 --> 00:56:19
			voice, it has to be, you know,
interesting. And but you can't
		
00:56:19 --> 00:56:24
			obviously curve the material. But
you can definitely do presentation
		
00:56:24 --> 00:56:27
			in a different way. And there's
nothing that exists out there
		
00:56:27 --> 00:56:30
			that's like that these kids,
they're very talented, a lot of
		
00:56:30 --> 00:56:32
			these kids are super talented,
like the extra son.
		
00:56:33 --> 00:56:36
			He made a rap about Muslim boys.
And he made it and I told him, you
		
00:56:36 --> 00:56:39
			know, let's, let's, let's put that
in our advisory, let's, you know,
		
00:56:39 --> 00:56:42
			like, let's you know, but it has
them in the content was perfect.
		
00:56:42 --> 00:56:44
			It was all about, you know,
praying and no alcohol, I mean,
		
00:56:44 --> 00:56:48
			all the things that are important
to them as kids, but yet, and
		
00:56:48 --> 00:56:50
			they're getting the message
across, but they're getting it
		
00:56:50 --> 00:56:54
			across in a way where kids will
actually listen. And so that's
		
00:56:54 --> 00:56:58
			been really challenging for me, or
a learning curve for me, because
		
00:56:58 --> 00:57:02
			I'm not a video editor. And I
don't know, you know, all these
		
00:57:02 --> 00:57:05
			things. So you know, the kids that
do have these talents, there's
		
00:57:05 --> 00:57:07
			lots of value for them, and value
added for them.
		
00:57:09 --> 00:57:10
			Sure.
		
00:57:12 --> 00:57:17
			So, on that note, I love your
enthusiasm, guys. And I want to
		
00:57:17 --> 00:57:20
			just say that, you know, it's not
about these kids, this was a few
		
00:57:20 --> 00:57:21
			years ago.
		
00:57:22 --> 00:57:25
			On that same note, these kids were
super enthusiastic, when we first
		
00:57:25 --> 00:57:30
			got them to not have to do PE and
that they could have a designated
		
00:57:30 --> 00:57:34
			place to pray at Cottonwood. There
was these kids were like, you
		
00:57:34 --> 00:57:38
			know, Miss so and so I need to
pray right now. Right? And the
		
00:57:38 --> 00:57:42
			teachers like, okay, okay, I'm
just gonna go to the bathroom, but
		
00:57:42 --> 00:57:45
			okay, hold on. And you know, it
just creates panic. So please
		
00:57:45 --> 00:57:51
			remember that, you know, we, if
you can, if you can pray us or at
		
00:57:51 --> 00:57:55
			home, pray us or at home, pray to
her at school, do it in a way that
		
00:57:55 --> 00:58:00
			is mindful of the other person
who's making that time for you,
		
00:58:00 --> 00:58:03
			right. And I would say that that
same thing applies to parents,
		
00:58:03 --> 00:58:06
			like, my kids not going to do
homework on it, okay, we don't
		
00:58:06 --> 00:58:08
			have to do homework on you. But
they have to do the homework
		
00:58:08 --> 00:58:11
			eventually, right? Like, it's not
like you could just be absolved of
		
00:58:11 --> 00:58:15
			those responsibility. So I think
for all of us, we just need to
		
00:58:15 --> 00:58:17
			remember that they,
		
00:58:18 --> 00:58:24
			we want the facility to be able to
do what is important to us. And
		
00:58:24 --> 00:58:27
			when that same token, we want to
show them the best o'clock that we
		
00:58:27 --> 00:58:30
			can when we're asking for those
things, right. So just because
		
00:58:30 --> 00:58:34
			those things did come up, and you
know, the students get very
		
00:58:34 --> 00:58:37
			excited, and we're really happy
that you guys are excited. So we
		
00:58:37 --> 00:58:42
			want to be able to offer this year
on year. I think for PE especially
		
00:58:42 --> 00:58:45
			like I think students, I agree
that you know, running the mile
		
00:58:45 --> 00:58:48
			would be difficult, you know, but
obviously you can judge it, you
		
00:58:48 --> 00:58:50
			know, but that doesn't mean that
you just go lie down in the
		
00:58:50 --> 00:58:54
			library, it means, you know, help
them organize their sports
		
00:58:54 --> 00:58:56
			equipment, I've been telling PE
teachers, like have them do
		
00:58:56 --> 00:59:00
			something valuable. This is your
school, this is part of, you know,
		
00:59:00 --> 00:59:03
			this is a part of you, you spend
so many hours there make it a
		
00:59:03 --> 00:59:06
			better place, it doesn't mean that
you know, you're exempt from that,
		
00:59:06 --> 00:59:09
			that you do nothing, it just
means, you know, turn that time
		
00:59:09 --> 00:59:10
			around in a positive way
		
00:59:15 --> 00:59:16
			want to make aware of lever
		
00:59:19 --> 00:59:22
			up here, before it used to be
merry christmas during winter,
		
00:59:22 --> 00:59:27
			right? It changed now Happy
Holidays change came very slow,
		
00:59:27 --> 00:59:30
			but it did. So what I'm trying to
tell you is that change come slow
		
00:59:31 --> 00:59:35
			wood during the winter holidays,
you don't see teachers or anyone
		
00:59:35 --> 00:59:38
			saying Merry Christmas to any
students because it's changed.
		
00:59:39 --> 00:59:42
			Just like when I know students
brought up all we want to decorate
		
00:59:42 --> 00:59:44
			the office.
		
00:59:45 --> 00:59:49
			So Office can stay away from where
there there's going to be
		
00:59:49 --> 00:59:52
			controversy because if we they do
it for one group, they have to do
		
00:59:52 --> 00:59:56
			it for every group. So there's
things that you want to stay away
		
00:59:56 --> 00:59:59
			from that might put them in a
position where they can't do it
		
00:59:59 --> 01:00:00
			forever.
		
01:00:00 --> 01:00:04
			Every one. So just think about the
changes that have come across our
		
01:00:04 --> 01:00:09
			district across our schools over
time. Because before, when we had
		
01:00:09 --> 01:00:12
			break, it was all Merry Christmas
not but then because they became
		
01:00:12 --> 01:00:15
			aware that not everyone celebrate
Christmas, this is a holiday
		
01:00:15 --> 01:00:18
			break, it changed to Happy
Holidays. These things are
		
01:00:18 --> 01:00:22
			changing slowly. But we need to be
receptive. Okay, we're gonna get
		
01:00:22 --> 01:00:28
			there, it won't be there. Right
away. But be I think it's be
		
01:00:28 --> 01:00:30
			mindful of all the positive
changes that have already come
		
01:00:30 --> 01:00:35
			along the way. There's many
things. But also remember if they
		
01:00:35 --> 01:00:39
			do, it's hard when you are a
school district of so many
		
01:00:39 --> 01:00:44
			different religious groups have a
comment accommodating everyone
		
01:00:44 --> 01:00:48
			takes time. So, you know, I know,
I think it was brought up that
		
01:00:48 --> 01:00:53
			they want to decorate the office.
If they say no, it's okay. It's
		
01:00:53 --> 01:00:56
			not, it doesn't mean that you
know, it's, they're negative or
		
01:00:56 --> 01:00:58
			they're not against, they're
against you or not. They're
		
01:00:58 --> 01:01:01
			thinking in a way of okay, if we
do it for this group, then we have
		
01:01:01 --> 01:01:04
			to say yes to this group. And we
have to say yes to that group. And
		
01:01:04 --> 01:01:08
			there's many holidays with so much
diversity, there's many holidays,
		
01:01:08 --> 01:01:12
			and then the school district
doesn't want to upset everyone. So
		
01:01:12 --> 01:01:15
			don't take everything in a
negative way, either. is what I
		
01:01:15 --> 01:01:18
			would say, because I know, we get
those questions in the
		
01:01:18 --> 01:01:21
			administrative office, and
particularly at the high school,
		
01:01:21 --> 01:01:24
			they're really, I mean, they're,
they're at a different level,
		
01:01:24 --> 01:01:27
			right? I think elementary schools
is a whole different thing, right?
		
01:01:27 --> 01:01:29
			Like, they may do all these
		
01:01:30 --> 01:01:33
			library decorations and the office
decorations. And that kind of
		
01:01:33 --> 01:01:36
			thing may happen at an elementary
school. But it's much harder at a
		
01:01:36 --> 01:01:40
			high school level. Because
obviously, there's so many people,
		
01:01:40 --> 01:01:44
			and even it's a middle middle
schools, you know, my kids are at
		
01:01:44 --> 01:01:48
			Cottonwood, dedicated eight, so we
get kind of a balance of the two.
		
01:01:48 --> 01:01:54
			But I would say, while they are in
process of putting in instituting
		
01:01:54 --> 01:01:58
			some of these things, it will
still be up to us to say, Would
		
01:01:58 --> 01:02:03
			you like me to come in and help
decorate the library or put out
		
01:02:03 --> 01:02:06
			the books or donate the books or
whatever it is, right. So that's
		
01:02:06 --> 01:02:10
			still going to be something that I
think we will have to do. But what
		
01:02:10 --> 01:02:13
			we can do is we can come together
and try to, you know, make the
		
01:02:13 --> 01:02:17
			load lighter for one another.
Right? So that it's not something
		
01:02:17 --> 01:02:20
			that you have to figure out. Okay,
which books should I buy? Right?
		
01:02:20 --> 01:02:23
			Which books are good? Because I
mean, that's another issue that
		
01:02:23 --> 01:02:27
			comes up. If we don't eat a book
that's like, let me tell you how
		
01:02:27 --> 01:02:30
			to say La ilaha illallah, Muhammad
Rasool Allah, like, that's gonna
		
01:02:30 --> 01:02:34
			become a problem, right? So we
have to be thoughtful about what
		
01:02:34 --> 01:02:38
			we are introducing, and how we can
do that. So, you know, we was
		
01:02:38 --> 01:02:41
			working together as a step in the
right direction.
		
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			Just a suggestion, is it
		
01:02:46 --> 01:02:50
			just a suggestion for elementary
level? Like, yes, as you guys
		
01:02:50 --> 01:02:55
			said, Baby, small steps, right? So
not too much, but just a little,
		
01:02:55 --> 01:03:00
			you know, start. And I really love
what you guys said that parents
		
01:03:00 --> 01:03:04
			also should initiate stuff, right?
So just like they talk about the
		
01:03:04 --> 01:03:09
			valley, right? They just did some
holy stuff. So we can like Holi,
		
01:03:09 --> 01:03:13
			celebration, something. So we can
also do like, just a five minute
		
01:03:13 --> 01:03:18
			not nothing religious. But just,
for example, in my class, I asked
		
01:03:18 --> 01:03:21
			in my son's class, he's in fourth
grade, I asked if I could just
		
01:03:21 --> 01:03:25
			before Ramadan, like day before
Ramadan, I could just give out
		
01:03:25 --> 01:03:29
			some sweets. And then for those
five minutes, I just come or three
		
01:03:29 --> 01:03:33
			minutes, just talk why they first
so that the class knows that
		
01:03:33 --> 01:03:37
			there, this particular student or
students would you know, even the
		
01:03:37 --> 01:03:41
			kids are aware and the kids feel
good about it. Like, for example,
		
01:03:41 --> 01:03:44
			the students feel good about it
that yeah, yes. You know, my, my
		
01:03:44 --> 01:03:47
			fellows know, class fellows know
that I'm going to be fasting and,
		
01:03:47 --> 01:03:50
			you know, they, they might be a
little bit, you know,
		
01:03:50 --> 01:03:54
			accommodating to them. So, yeah,
absolutely. I was gonna say, what
		
01:03:54 --> 01:03:56
			are the things that happened in
this last few years where the high
		
01:03:56 --> 01:03:59
			schoolers are sending out
information as they shared it with
		
01:03:59 --> 01:04:01
			the high school and with the
principals at the middle school
		
01:04:01 --> 01:04:03
			level, but they didn't tell the
elementary school level because
		
01:04:03 --> 01:04:06
			they thought no one at the
elementary school level is
		
01:04:06 --> 01:04:10
			fasting, right? So they just were
not aware of that that might even
		
01:04:10 --> 01:04:13
			be the case. So that's, again,
part of our opportunity to educate
		
01:04:13 --> 01:04:14
			them.
		
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			Just to add what to what you were
saying, my kids did that last
		
01:04:21 --> 01:04:25
			year, because they were both
fasting a week in advance. I had
		
01:04:25 --> 01:04:27
			them have that five minutes where
they would speak because it's
		
01:04:27 --> 01:04:31
			their classmates, right? So I had
them go in and speak. And last
		
01:04:31 --> 01:04:34
			year, I made like a little note
card with a little goodie bag like
		
01:04:34 --> 01:04:36
			they do for birthdays or any other
you know, holiday that they might
		
01:04:36 --> 01:04:41
			celebrate. Our family will be
starting Ramadan. We would like to
		
01:04:41 --> 01:04:43
			celebrate a little bit with you.
Here's a, you know, a candy or
		
01:04:43 --> 01:04:47
			two, and we sent it out to all the
classmates. They enjoyed that
		
01:04:47 --> 01:04:50
			we're doing the same thing again
this year. It's just a little box
		
01:04:50 --> 01:04:53
			with a few m&ms that is just as
happy Ramadan, just for the kids
		
01:04:53 --> 01:04:56
			to know that our kids are
celebrating something right now.
		
01:04:56 --> 01:04:59
			Just like they celebrate we
celebrate as well. And that's what
		
01:04:59 --> 01:05:00
			I love about them.
		
01:05:00 --> 01:05:02
			Let me know if I participate
inclusive of everybody. And
		
01:05:02 --> 01:05:07
			hopefully, you know, as years go
on that more and more districts do
		
01:05:07 --> 01:05:09
			the same. Because yes, it's very
important for our kids to be
		
01:05:09 --> 01:05:12
			included in all these things. So
yes, you're right, we need to
		
01:05:12 --> 01:05:15
			start it there at a young age.
		
01:05:42 --> 01:05:46
			Just like my mother was saying, I
feel like students should talk to
		
01:05:46 --> 01:05:49
			their peers about what they're
like why they first especially,
		
01:05:50 --> 01:05:55
			because I've had experiences where
people had misconceptions about
		
01:05:55 --> 01:05:59
			why people fast and that it's
painful among them. And it's like
		
01:05:59 --> 01:06:04
			some force upon them. But when my
friends would ask me questions
		
01:06:04 --> 01:06:06
			even about other things like hijab
and all that,
		
01:06:07 --> 01:06:11
			thankfully, I've been to like
talks and stuff. And I've been
		
01:06:11 --> 01:06:15
			Sunday school and the high school.
They've talked a lot about, like,
		
01:06:15 --> 01:06:19
			why people do cert, why why we do
certain things and the
		
01:06:19 --> 01:06:22
			significance of it, that really
opened up their minds and
		
01:06:24 --> 01:06:27
			gave them a better understanding
of it. So to do this for other
		
01:06:27 --> 01:06:31
			kids, especially the younger ones,
it's a really, it's, it would be
		
01:06:31 --> 01:06:32
			really helpful for everyone.
		
01:06:33 --> 01:06:37
			Absolutely, I think as Sylvia
mentioned, we're working with the
		
01:06:37 --> 01:06:41
			district to do sort of, what's the
right words, cultural awareness,
		
01:06:41 --> 01:06:46
			and religious competency training
for the staff overall, and the
		
01:06:46 --> 01:06:50
			whole district so that they can be
more aware of you know, why we do
		
01:06:50 --> 01:06:54
			the things that we do, right, that
just, you know, as you mentioned,
		
01:06:55 --> 01:06:58
			Robert, fasting during Ramadan,
it's hard. But it's also fun,
		
01:06:58 --> 01:07:01
			right? It's also the reason that
we do it is because it's sort of
		
01:07:01 --> 01:07:01
			a,
		
01:07:02 --> 01:07:06
			that was a rite of passage to
adulthood, right, it means that
		
01:07:06 --> 01:07:10
			now you're a grown up get to do
grown up lazy to participate with
		
01:07:10 --> 01:07:12
			everyone else in the communities
have grown up. I know, my mom was
		
01:07:12 --> 01:07:16
			telling me my mom was here, that
when we were, you know, when we
		
01:07:16 --> 01:07:19
			were growing up in box, I was
like, you get a big present on the
		
01:07:19 --> 01:07:23
			day that you have your first fast,
right, you get a big present, the
		
01:07:23 --> 01:07:27
			year that you finished fasting,
all 30 days, like it's supposed to
		
01:07:27 --> 01:07:31
			be something that is celebrated,
right. So that's what we want them
		
01:07:31 --> 01:07:33
			to understand, too, that that's
why the kids are doing it. Because
		
01:07:33 --> 01:07:37
			this is actually something that's
celebrated as part of their
		
01:07:37 --> 01:07:40
			journey into becoming responsible
adults. It's not just about not
		
01:07:40 --> 01:07:44
			eating and drinking, it's about
having that character to not by
		
01:07:44 --> 01:07:49
			backbite, to not yell to like,
hold your temper to balance your
		
01:07:49 --> 01:07:53
			spiritual well being with your
worldly responsibilities. It's all
		
01:07:53 --> 01:07:54
			part of all of that. So
		
01:07:56 --> 01:07:59
			I just want to be mindful of the
time, I love that the conversation
		
01:07:59 --> 01:08:03
			is ongoing, and we can keep going.
I just wanted to remind everybody
		
01:08:03 --> 01:08:07
			that I think it shows in about 10
minutes. So I will wrap up in five
		
01:08:07 --> 01:08:10
			minutes or so if you guys have any
more questions.
		
01:08:20 --> 01:08:24
			Yeah, if you, if you can just sum
up like how parents can support
		
01:08:24 --> 01:08:29
			your efforts? I'm not sure man if
you're only spearheading this, or
		
01:08:29 --> 01:08:34
			if other people are involved. And
how can we support you guys? Sure.
		
01:08:35 --> 01:08:39
			So I'll just speak for myself. My
interest in this really came from
		
01:08:39 --> 01:08:44
			my desire to help with my kids,
right. And, you know, to to get
		
01:08:44 --> 01:08:48
			involved in the school district. I
just did that because I cared
		
01:08:48 --> 01:08:52
			about what was going on with my
kids and with my kids, school and
		
01:08:52 --> 01:08:57
			with the district overall. So I
would say number one thing is, you
		
01:08:57 --> 01:09:00
			know, people think about it as
like politics is this far away
		
01:09:00 --> 01:09:03
			thing. But politics is really
about community. And it's really
		
01:09:03 --> 01:09:06
			about getting involved in serving
your community. So that I would
		
01:09:06 --> 01:09:09
			say it's number one, find, find
out what's going on in the city,
		
01:09:10 --> 01:09:13
			in the school district and find
ways to get involved, that will
		
01:09:13 --> 01:09:16
			help all of us because you will be
at the table when the discussion
		
01:09:17 --> 01:09:20
			starts. And you can say, hey, you
know, I heard about this, is there
		
01:09:20 --> 01:09:24
			something that we can do to be a
part of this or to make, you know,
		
01:09:24 --> 01:09:29
			this effort, that city is doing
more meaningful for us as Muslims.
		
01:09:30 --> 01:09:33
			So I would say that's number one.
The other reason that I started
		
01:09:33 --> 01:09:36
			doing this is I'm really
interested in public policy I work
		
01:09:36 --> 01:09:39
			in public policy is as a
nonprofit, but I've never really
		
01:09:39 --> 01:09:44
			applied all of that to something
like this. So I always kind of
		
01:09:44 --> 01:09:47
			looked at it from the perspective
of this is great that I'm going to
		
01:09:47 --> 01:09:51
			do this in my kids classroom. But
what happens the year that I'm,
		
01:09:51 --> 01:09:55
			you know, busy or I'm tired or I'm
not there anymore, because now
		
01:09:55 --> 01:09:59
			there's someone you know, there's
my children have outgrown that. So
		
01:09:59 --> 01:09:59
			we wanted to put
		
01:10:00 --> 01:10:03
			something in place so that you're
on your these things continue. So
		
01:10:04 --> 01:10:08
			I think for us right now, we are
trying to build out that playbook
		
01:10:08 --> 01:10:12
			that the, that the gentleman was
asking for. But I think the more
		
01:10:12 --> 01:10:17
			that more of you that fill that
paper out and say, My child is
		
01:10:17 --> 01:10:21
			observing Ramadan, right, the more
that they get that the more they
		
01:10:21 --> 01:10:24
			will see that it's not just, you
know, the eight of us who signed
		
01:10:24 --> 01:10:29
			that document. This is, you know,
for a lot of people, right, power
		
01:10:29 --> 01:10:29
			a number.
		
01:10:30 --> 01:10:35
			And then when we're, when you
respond to that climate survey,
		
01:10:35 --> 01:10:39
			talk about the fact that getting
that email from Mr. Funk about
		
01:10:39 --> 01:10:42
			Ramadan was meaningful to you,
right, it was meaningful to your
		
01:10:42 --> 01:10:46
			students, those are the things
that we can do to reinforce for
		
01:10:46 --> 01:10:50
			them that this is something that
is important for for us to do, we
		
01:10:50 --> 01:10:54
			will put that book list together
in sha Allah when we're working on
		
01:10:54 --> 01:10:56
			it, yeah, but when we will try to
send it out to all of you. And if
		
01:10:56 --> 01:10:59
			you want to just we're going to
try to set it up as like an
		
01:10:59 --> 01:11:03
			Amazon, you know, list and we'll
get the books paid for and donate
		
01:11:03 --> 01:11:07
			it. And then we'll make one giant
donation from us as a community,
		
01:11:07 --> 01:11:10
			to the different schools in the
area for whatever they need.
		
01:11:10 --> 01:11:13
			Right. So that's another way that
you guys can get involved and help
		
01:11:13 --> 01:11:17
			us with it. If there's a book that
you think is a good book that is,
		
01:11:17 --> 01:11:22
			you know, maybe about Muslims and
about, you know, a Muslim
		
01:11:22 --> 01:11:25
			biography about Abdullah, Mohammed
or something like that, that you
		
01:11:25 --> 01:11:29
			think would be a good thing to add
to the library. That's another way
		
01:11:29 --> 01:11:31
			that you can get involved or make
a donation to the school.
		
01:11:34 --> 01:11:36
			Take off on our holidays.
		
01:11:37 --> 01:11:38
			Take off the holiday.
		
01:11:41 --> 01:11:42
			It shows
		
01:11:43 --> 01:11:48
			high school kids state law, if you
have testing, just have
		
01:11:49 --> 01:11:54
			fun. Task isn't mandatory. Just
FYI, it's not mandatory testing
		
01:11:54 --> 01:11:58
			isn't testing that, you know, if
you miss it, you can make it up,
		
01:11:59 --> 01:12:03
			take off on days, numbers speak
for themselves. Lee says the only
		
01:12:03 --> 01:12:07
			way to realize that we have a good
population that that is
		
01:12:08 --> 01:12:08
			celebrating our
		
01:12:10 --> 01:12:13
			take off and call it in. Yeah, I
will just just to make sure that
		
01:12:13 --> 01:12:19
			everybody heard that on online.
Yes, number one, take off the
		
01:12:19 --> 01:12:23
			holidays, avail yourself of the
accommodations, right. If they get
		
01:12:23 --> 01:12:27
			the letter saying my child is
observing Ramadan, I want to be
		
01:12:27 --> 01:12:32
			able to take off eat, I don't want
to have to take a test the day
		
01:12:32 --> 01:12:37
			after eat all of those requests
that you make it, it makes meaning
		
01:12:37 --> 01:12:39
			for what we've done, right?
Because the policy is a policy,
		
01:12:40 --> 01:12:43
			it's just going to sit there if
nobody uses it, right. So we
		
01:12:43 --> 01:12:46
			really need to show that it's
actually meaningful. I think the
		
01:12:46 --> 01:12:49
			last thing I will add is, you
know, when you see change, be
		
01:12:49 --> 01:12:54
			positive, respond back, send an
email, I mean, and they I think
		
01:12:54 --> 01:12:56
			they would be loved to hear from
parents saying, this made me so
		
01:12:56 --> 01:12:59
			happy. This brought tears I mean,
whatever we shared on our little
		
01:12:59 --> 01:13:02
			group chats or whatever, share it
with them. Because when they do
		
01:13:02 --> 01:13:06
			make the effort we have to respond
to I mean, both ways. Something's
		
01:13:06 --> 01:13:08
			wrong, we got to call it out. But
when it's right, we also have to
		
01:13:08 --> 01:13:09
			appreciate it.
		
01:13:12 --> 01:13:16
			Okay, I'm gonna wrap it up unless
there's anybody else. Okay, just
		
01:13:16 --> 01:13:17
			because I thought already.
		
01:13:18 --> 01:13:22
			All right, just like a lot,
everybody for coming out as big
		
01:13:22 --> 01:13:25
			thank you to our students, because
they're really leading the way to
		
01:13:25 --> 01:13:27
			our high schoolers and our middle
schoolers. Thank you guys for
		
01:13:27 --> 01:13:31
			being brave and stepping out
there. So just talk a lot to all
		
01:13:31 --> 01:13:32
			of you