Hatem al-Haj – The Hanbali School Part 5 The Current State

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The Senate is discussing the need for schools to exist outside of China. There is a discussion about whether or not Syria is a priority for schooling. The Senate is also discussing the importance of humiling people to acknowledge the superiority of the term "notes."

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			The Senate do so need for the how
many schools still exist outside
		
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			of niched in other words direct
Senate back to Imam Ahmed we
		
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			talked about Senate for a long
time and I have like two pages of
		
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			notes we had the Syrian branch
there said that it was strong
		
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			in Egypt alright the camera cut
out but we'll just continue
		
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			either way with without it when we
talked about the SN need, we spoke
		
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			about Egypt, Syria next being in
the latter history
		
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			of the humbly method needs to
became prominent, are there Syrian
		
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			and Egyptian essay need alive
today continuous without any
		
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			breaks? I don't know of series of
Egyptian there are serious on the
		
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			book most of the Sunil various on
either or an SD nowadays, for
		
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			several reasons.
		
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			Certainly, the majority of the
Honeyberry scholars are from that,
		
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			then certainly they serve the math
hub. A great deal.
		
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			People will go to our Hi, janitor.
Hi, John hamre all the time. And
		
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			that's where people you know, and
people also usually our own
		
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			feedback their own.
		
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			But there are, you know, bases
check me do me is
		
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			that little last, basically,
humbly family was connected Shammi
		
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			as any second point is, what I'm
witnessing is a shift
		
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			back to humbly and away from the
other terms such as selfie. So
		
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			what happened? Why would the the
name the humbling name have
		
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			shifted in the first place to
selfie?
		
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			Right?
		
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			And, and do you see it coming back
to somebody overset if the word
		
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			selfies now has, you know, people
use it in derogatory terms, etc.
		
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			And it's, you know, probably
socially better for people to use
		
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			the term humbly, in my opinion,
because it has historical roots,
		
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			and the word selfie is just used.
Now, a lot of people still like to
		
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			use the word, but why does it even
exist? If you if they're, if
		
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			they're high nebula? Why does that
even exist?
		
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			I think somebody's in sort of
users with their friends like so,
		
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			I know a lot of people who are
suffering and Maliki and Salafi
		
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			because it depends on what you
mean by Salafi and I think that
		
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			they sort of
		
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			constrained the definition
constrained understanding of the
		
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			concept that does not serve the
concept I think that Salafism
		
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			should be
		
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			part of,
		
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			you know, part of our
		
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			orientation as Muslims, you know,
to favor a self
		
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			to acknowledge the superiority of
a self to acknowledge the the
		
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			different approach of self to
different things, you know, so I
		
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			think that we can take and I truly
believe that people who are
		
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			capable of sentences they will
understand the what made Salafism
		
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			crew.
		
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			Some people have like, sort of a
fantasy that
		
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			Muslims were doing very well in
all regards, up until 200 years
		
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			ago, and things started, and the
petro dollars and so on and so
		
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			forth. But you know, be people
need to really walk away from
		
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			cartoonish narratives.
		
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			Certainly, you could have your
critiques, and many are valid.
		
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			And not only that, they're just
valid critiques. Many are very
		
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			strong critiques, very valid
critiques. And many things that
		
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			happened on the last 200 years
could have been consequential, but
		
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			the cartoonish narrative will not
go to the OMA. So synthesis loose
		
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			figuring out what made Salafism
appear appealing. What made me at
		
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			nine years of age, basically get
attracted to people that are
		
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			dressed in a certain way and go
into the masjid and, you know,
		
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			you know, praying like long
prayers, that's why they called
		
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			masters in the year and that's why
people would like run away from
		
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			the master. So this would attract
someone like me, I wanted that. I
		
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			wanted the atmosphere.
		
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			And then the issue of Santa versus
better the emphasis on evidence
		
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			spaced and that has to be done
with out
		
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			antagonism to Mother mother helped
internally need to basically
		
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			need to basically consider the
importance of a lively discourse
		
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			get continuing a lively discourse,
		
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			internally and talking about the
evidence and talking about Hadith
		
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			and the important importance or
hobbies and things of that nature
		
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			because we may have repetition
		
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			is not appealing to the
intellectually oriented.
		
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			In addition to this, it's the herb
is extremely important nowadays,
		
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			and we need to find a certain way
like a point of equilibrium.
		
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			We know that our Messiah that are
wholly committed to their Messiah
		
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			have they depart from the Messiah
had been the from the agreement of
		
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			the form of that, why don't we
agree on a way that we do this in
		
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			a regulated manner
		
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			you know, so,
		
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			public interest will be
considered, but evidence will also
		
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			be considered too. So, when we sit
in a Majima or a council or sorry
		
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			our board and discuss different
issues and pick from the mazahub
		
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			and even pick from outside of them
if we want to also say you know,
		
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			the prophets Allah some of them
said that removing that from the
		
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			discussion and say, because
sometimes in the nether hub also
		
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			and I have to be honest with you,
like when we and I do this
		
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			sometimes when we spend the two
days trying to like figure out a
		
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			more retirement and to look
through like 30 books to figure
		
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			out in my retirement
		
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			when that Martin that could be
countered to the position of the
		
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			other former three mazahub For
instance, when that mark, you
		
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			know, without getting sort of
paying any attention to the
		
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			evidence that actually hurts
		
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			and hurts the viability of the
Masada then their sustainability.
		
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			So, there are certain things that
we have to learn and we have to
		
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			walk away from making Salafism a
group because the CLF are our
		
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			predecessors, they are our so we
are they are common ancestors. So
		
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			making it a group will create this
partisanship and will actually
		
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			push people away from listening,
when when when there is a
		
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			discussion about this was the way
of the predecessor predecessors
		
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			like it
		
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			was demand Joey for instance,
discusses in Romania, why he left
		
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			it we tough Wait,
		
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			you know, to him, tough, we it was
the way of the practice and
		
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			predecessors it is important. The
way of the predecessor is bringing
		
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			this into our discussions, you
know, evidence the way of the
		
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			predecessors, so never submit and
these things and it and it should
		
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			not be be a group because it is
not a group. You know, you know,
		
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			the sell off our special
ancestors.
		
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			For all of us. Yeah.
		
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			We're walking away from from this,
you know, changing the
		
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			changing bit, but basically the
referent of the word would be of
		
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			service for all of us.