Hatem al-Haj – Is Truth Obtainable Outside of The 4 Madhabs

			So this is in reference to the form of the and the place of the form of I had been, why the form as
I am and all of that stuff. So the sahaba.
		

			And I have a position on the form of that, that I believe to be a moderate one, I don't basically
geometrically adjust my positions to be in the middle, in the geometrical middle, because that
doesn't make sense.
		

			But sometimes they just turn out to be somewhere in the geometrical or mathematical middle. But
anyway, so the the, the Sahaba, Ivanova him, were able to,
		

			to deduce, or at least the scholars among them, or two or many, many, were able to deduce the
rulings from the text of the revelation, whether it's Quran and Sunnah. But for later generations,
		

			you see how this process can get can become messed up completely. Like if you allow people if you
allow the public to just examine the Quran and Sunnah by themselves,
		

			you will come up with like, 2 million mazahub.
		

			Because people will, and you will come up with wild positions as well,
		

			that are completely baseless and that are completely in discord with text of Revelation. Because
there is a process, the hermeneutical system of Islam is a very solid one. And the masses don't
necessarily have that much knowledge about you know, they also one of interpretation, though soul of
deduction. So we have a solid hermeneutical system. And a scholar needs to have sort of a vast
knowledge of the reports
		

			and
		

			deep knowledge of the hermeneutical system, the process of deduction, therefore,
		

			the mazahub are our greatest, you know, intellectual wonders, if we do away with them, that would be
basically suicidal.
		

			However, there are a couple of points here. One is the truth is not limited to the form of sometimes
there may be positions outside the forms
		

			that are true, and that are worth adopting. I'll give you one position, not because I'm biased, I
may be biased, you know, I'm a human being why not? We're all biased. So but
		

			yeah, he just cannot be biased.
		

			But this like three divorces counting as one divorce, for instance, three divorces in one utterance
counting as one divorce. This is not a position that this is not the position. This is not the
authorized position of any of the former The this is a position of amendment they may have it has
been accepted by
		

			the legislatures in many Muslim countries where, you know, by legislatures that are not particularly
sympathetic to email, they may, or they don't necessarily like him to begin with. But they they
basically cite him as the authority in this regard. Why? Because there are certain conditions that
need to be met to accept opposition from outside of the form of VA hub. One of them is that the
position has to be
		

			upheld by and watch the head. And he had his own adversaries, you know, acknowledging that he wasn't
much the head. The second is,
		

			is that the position has to have has to be a substantial one that has some basis in the Revelation.
That position has bases in, in a hadith reported by Muslim, you know, from Abdullah Abdullah bass
that three counted as one during the time of the Prophet and the time of Abu Bakr, Allah, the online
Homer.
		

			And the position has to be one that has not been completely abandoned and has been mainstreamed by,
you know, a group of Muslim scholars, and certainly with the legislatures and many Muslim countries
accepting this, such as you know, because I'm from Egypt, so I know in Egypt, it is there. I know.
Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, these countries I know that this position has been accepted into
		

			This country's by legislators in those countries. So a position like this can be mainstreamed, can
be mainstreamed. I will give you another example that may look a little bit even weaker, but I
believe that it is a position that can be mainstreamed. I have always
		

			advise
		

			pregnant and breastfeeding women who have you know, who miss Ramadan successively
		

			because of their pregnancy and breastfeeding, and then the accumulate six or seven Ramadan's where
they couldn't fast because they were either breastfeeding or pregnant, I have always advised them,
that they may
		

			just give them failure, and they don't have to make up for the, you know, for 400 days, you know,
the the need to make up
		

			when this position is not authorized in any of the farmers and being a homebody myself, that
position is not somebody's position, you know, and certainly somebody's would frown at this
position. But this position is from a falafel irony that we say Rafa, it mean, meaning that it's
reported from higher up support from the lab now basan, Abdullah Muhammad, and some contemporary
scholars like CF, say, it's safe use of ricotta Qaradawi, safe, natural Bernie CEFR Yasaka are those
who have as
		

			you know, mentioned that as a possibility, that not necessarily supported, but the others support
that, and others. So these are scholars, and the idea that we now should have no much the heavy in
and that he had, and that suicide that also, because it's like, we are going to act like wherever,
without a brain, it's an ummah without a brain that, you know, can basically address new issues and
can make it to the Hab and can provide guidance for the people, despite the fact that there have
been enormous changes socio economic social changes
		

			in in the last 200 years. So to deprive the owner of its brain, and now allow not allow it to
address the enormous changes in the last 200 years in the world that we live in, and the nature of
the world that they live in, would be suicidal, and Sharia will become irrelevant, and we wouldn't
have done it to ourselves. And then we could come back and cry and say, so why, you know, why is all
of this happening? Why is nobody given attention to, or caring about this area or any of that stuff.
So
		

			the format mazahub are at the heart of our heritage, we go to them first. And then there may be
positions outside the form as I have, we go through a process of mainstreaming those positions,
because we're not going to allow anybody who just simply has a PhD in FERC, to come up with
positions and destroy the start to spread them, and so on and so forth. There has to be a process
collective, it's the head and circle stuff as Zarqa rahamallah
		

			Did mentioned this, that this that we need to invest more in collective, it's the hub as a way out
of the problem of chaos, or complete freezing. There has to be an answer in the middle. And I think
that we have to have a process and the process is acceptance, widespread acceptance of a position
that is adopted by a metalhead, whether from the past or the presence, if there is widespread
acceptance
		

			through the process of collective St. Howard, or even widespread acceptance without, you know,
collective, it's the heart separate, it's the hearts that, you know, agreed on a position then that
position can be mainstreamed and can be considered a viable position. That's the that's the one
contingency here with my emphasis, you know, like, that doesn't detract from my emphasis on the
importance and centrality of the form of the second contingency is that
		

			the forms are meant people who study for work are the people who should subscribe to the formula.
there is controversy between the scholars whether the masses the public, the lay persons should
subscribe to a must have or not. And the position that I believe in, to be stronger wholeheartedly,
is that the masses should not
		

			not subscribe to a mother. Because if you ask someone, why do you subscribe to Amazon? And all he
can say is, you know, that's that's our madhhab. Well, that's partisanship. That is basically
fanaticism add a little bit of, you know, heart bloodedness that we all have to this, and you create
all the troubles in the world that we have witnessed, and that we continue to witness. So the public
should not, by default, the public may be following your mother because there's color that they
referring to all the time, in the, you know, happen to be Shafi or Hanafy, or humbly automatically
move, that's fine. That's okay. But they should not subscribe to something they don't, they cannot
		

			defend their decision, you know, the decision of subscribing to it, they cannot defend it with any,
like, rational, we can rationally defend. So anyway, nowadays with the internet instead, it's a
little bit different. Because it's not like, you know, people who live in Upper Egypt are more
Maliki and people who live in Lower Egypt are more Shafi. You know, the world is not divided like
this anymore, because everybody goes online, and everybody food ever follows wherever they are. So I
have a lot of people studying Hanbury
		

			stuff with me. I'm very low with me, and they text me on WhatsApp. And, you know, from Bangladesh
and from
		

			different parts of the world that hunt Barisan has never been popular in? Should we be irritated by
this? Should their parents be irritated by this? Why? Why don't you leave them? Why don't you
respect to their spiritual agency? Why don't you like
		

			us?
		

			anymore? We're gonna huddle Hey, Tommy, who's a very, very math heavy person, very sharp, very math
heavy person. He said when a father orders his son to follow his madhhab that is not binding on the
sun, because of there is no purpose and that it is utter foolishness. That's what he said. So this
is this is a so we're not talking about a contemporary liberal, this. We're just talking about your
very, very classic and traditional scholar who is very math heavy. He said that if the father or
there's a son to follow his mother, and there is no purpose in this, like a good purpose, like a
good purpose would be what like what, son? There are no honeyberries here are how are you going to
		

			do it? That's a good purpose. But if the sun figured out a way to do it, it's fine, you know, so
when there is no good purpose, then it's other foolishness.