Analysing the Lives of the Prophets 21_ Ibrahim Part 3 by Shaykh Hasan Ali
Hasan Ali – Analysing The Lives Of The Prophets – Episode 21
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The speakers stress the importance of understanding the language and context of the words "antsha," and the use of " rhodiola" in the title of books. They also discuss the negative impact of controversial positions on the debate, including the negative impact of controversial positions on media and online discussions, and the importance of educating people on the topic. The speakers emphasize the need for clear platforms and rules for discussing issues and the importance of proving one's claim to the Lord through knowledge and skill in Islam.
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We've been discussing Erasmus rasaan. This is the third session. And what we have mentioned already is very bright Melissa Lazzara growing up amongst the idols because his father used to make them. And thereafter how he challenged them. Thereafter, they they tried to kill him by burning him. After last week, we discussed about him, having a one to one with his father,
and how he approached his father, and how delicate he was how gentle he was, in trying to make his father understand now, the stories in the order that I placed them. So firstly, having the sun, the moon and the stars and so on. The story that I said about that one I placed up quite early on. So that shows that he's challenging his people. The next one, where he was going, getting getting a bit more closer into the temple, and challenging them there, I placed that next, then I placed the one where they're trying to burn him, because he broke the idols and there after I placed the one which is a one to one with his father, and why are placed in this order is because logically it makes
sense. Because in any in any particular
in any any particular place like this, what you will have is you will have things that will move along in a sociological way, in a sense that it will be less confrontational in the beginning and more competition as you get further and further towards, towards one pulling this way, another one pulling that guy. So if you look at it from from any any sort of conflict in life, you will find that this is how they usually end up. So with Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi salam, you will find that the soula savasana, first gives his dour, verbally and then when he gets challenged, he he moves steps forward and he gets challenged more and then they start some form of torturing to the Muslims,
and then they threaten his life. And then after that, they actually throw him out. And based on that logic, I've placed these four different incidents in that order. Otherwise, if you actually look into this, the ambia stories, you can't actually see, you know, if you look on the is that I've referred to, you can't see that Allah azzawajal says that all this happened, and that happened, and that happened. And the fourth thing happened. You don't see that. So this is purely based on how I rationally see all of this. Now, the fact that it Rahim Allah Saracen leaves, Bible or leaves Babylon,
he's leaving this, this homeland of his where he grew up, and now he's going to travel to is going to travel south. Okay? Now he does settle
in different places in his life. And he does get married to start off on the Aloha. And then later on, he gets made to Hydra Aloha. And here he does finally come to Michael macabre. And later on, he will, that's when he has the birth of a smaller audience so long before he reaches maximum karma. But then he leaves and he comes back again to Makkah, he leaves and they come back again. And this happens a few times he shall he leaves. He's traveling again up to the north, and he's giving dollar wherever he's going. Not on one of these journeys. We don't know exactly when, and when exactly might be but one of these journeys, when he's married to sorrow, now I said, rhodiola and some might
say Allah has
Salam. Now we know that there are no female prophetesses we know that there are no female prophets. But
alayhis salam sins is being used for the, the male prophets. One might say, okay, for their wide use alayhis salam, but that might make somebody feel that she's a prophet s. And therefore, we shouldn't use that word alayhis salam for there's nothing wrong really. If somebody says, For example, sobre la has Salam because their belief is that there are no female prophecies. But if somebody was to say, Well, no, I
Rather us radi Allahu Allah. May Allah be pleased with her. An Allah has Allah means may or may Allah peace be upon her of the Longhorn homies that may Allah be pleased with her. If somebody says that
I'm going to use a rubber Viola on her forehead, that's fine. If somebody wants us, Allah Himself is fine. I don't particularly make a fuss out of it. Because these terms are the Allahu Allahu alayhi salam I know now it's very common that we use Ali Salaam only for a prophet is just a term between the Muslims that whenever you hear someone's name, and after, after that you say Allah has Salam alehissalaam, you actually mean that that person was a prophet. And whenever you say sallallahu alayhi Salaam, you try to say that he was our Prophet sallallahu Elijah Muhammad Sallallahu sallam, and when you whenever you say about the Allahu anhu, you're trying to imply that it was a companion
of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam. Here's somebody might say, well, if you say sorrow of your love, and heart, and people might think that she's the Sahaba, she's actually a companion of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam. But nonetheless, it doesn't really matter. So we'll just use rhodiola on her for her.
So start out with the Ola Hannah. She was a very beautiful woman. In fact, in the, in the early scriptures, from what we found, from the Israeli riot, it says that she was a woman of great beauty. In fact, it says, in one generation of non our generations, it says of the narrations of the past, that if you were to take all the beauty of the women of the world, half of it was given to sobre
la ohana. Now, you can imagine that
if such a woman and normally what would happen is that people they may
normally normally with a woman who might show or might have some beauty men Normally, you know, they will roll their eyes towards her.
But her being exceptionally beautiful. There was another problem
is on one of these journeys when Ibrahim alayhi salatu salam was traveling with her,
he came across a tyrant King.
Now this tyrant King, what he wanted to do was
he wanted to me he was he was he was such a type that if he found a woman of good looks, it was his. That's how he was he simply would say, all right, for you. I'm the husband, really hot guys kill him
simply as that killed this man,
and he would kill the husband, or he would do something, whichever way it is, and he would take her in his possession. Now, some have said that this is this was numb Ruth. And some have implied that it's a different thing. Wherever the case is, he comes across this king and the king when he sees her because all the travelers that passed by must stop at his place. And Ibrahim alayhi salatu salam realizes that this is the king that will take my wife is just not his wife or his as his pleasure. So what he does is in secret, he tells his wife that if the king asks you who you are, then I don't want you to say that you're my wife, because simply would mean for the king that let me just get rid
of this husband. And she's mine.
I'm asking you to say to him and this is in our a hadith Sahih Hadith, I'm asking you to say to him, that you are my sister.
And the reason why I'm saying that is by Allah. I have no other person in this faith of mine that believes in Me, except for you. So there's only a couple of people possibly You know, there's, there's loot Allah is Salam. But, you know, his his nephew, but Nutella salam, you know, end of the day, he becomes a prophet in his own right. So So this sounds like it's at a very early stage of his Dawa. So he must have gotten married and then something like this confrontational happens. So because Sara is from the same religion, then that makes her a sister in religion to her brother, Ibrahim. As I said, I'm just as you're all my brothers in Islam, and the sisters are listening.
They're all sisters in Islam.
Now, this is again, one of those three comments that Ibrahim alayhi salatu salam has made you want to
The comments that he's made, which he, he feels he might get questioned on the Day of Judgment. I've already said the other two, and this is the third. What I'm going to do is I'm going to summarize all three in one.
But before I get to that, I want to talk about the incident. So what happens here is that
the king sets his eyes on her and immediately he tells his, his Gods call her to two separate room. What happens here is that
Ibrahim alayhi salatu salam is is questioned.
And separately, and he takes sort of your love on a separate now when he takes a separate he comes into the chamber
with her and he says to her, who are you to this man?
Now, Sarah Viola Juana, she has her Eman in a law zone.
And she doesn't care about this, this tyrant. What what he does, though, is that he tries to go straight for her.
Whether she's going to say to him that I'm, you know, the wife of this man or the sister of this man, what he does is that he goes straight for her. Now when he goes for her, she has a belief in Allah azza wa jal, and his hand freezes.
His hand freezes on his hands, his hands freeze. He says, What have you done to my hand?
She just made the draw to Allah azza wa jal, what have you done to my hand?
let you know whatever you've done to let it go. So she makes the ultra Lazo gel
spreadsheet, she asked a lot to protect her lemon, he's Humphreys. Of course, if she walks away from here. And this King's hand is frozen. You know, she's really gonna see the other end of it. Because you know, you can imagine what this chart will do to her. If it comes out with a with a with a hand that don't move anymore. So she makes go out to Allah azza wa jal, and then her hand, his hand becomes normal again. So he then go straight forward again.
And she makes the Australian into a lot of hand freezes.
And he says to her, okay, let, let go, let go
of whatever you've done. And again, she makes law to Allah. And his hand ceases to freeze, and a third time he goes for her. And this time, she's thinking, you know, how many times is this man gonna, you know, do what he wants to do.
This time, when he asks her, she's not responding until he says to her, oh, you which?
Let go this time, and I promise you, I will not, you know, I will not go for you again.
So that's when she turns to Allah azza wa jal, and it unfreezes. And that's when he lets her sort of go.
Now, what's very what we learned from this, and again, this has to do with with all of us in a situation, there's this incident. And there's another incident coming up with Hydra.
Viola, Han, Han, or Ali Hassan, there's two incidents, these are women who are married to profit, yes. But they've got a very high level of Eman And, and, and the man of a person will make them see miracles in their life. There is no doubt about that. Because there are three different stages of those who are close to Allah is a general okay. So those who are close to Allah, we normally refer to them as the only of Allah, those who are close to God. So those are the ones who are close to God. There are the common people, there are the common people, many of us may be be the only Allah you don't even know you never see any miracles, anything little miracles in your life.
And these are people who are genuinely in other good hearts, they do what they're supposed to do. They don't disobey a line agenda, general things they don't sin.
Major sin no major sins in their lives. They may have minor sins that we've all got minuses and so on, but they do their utmost best to stay away from major sins and they are on to the deen in doing their performance for Allah azza wa jal. They are the common Alia and you may not see them being extraordinary in any way. But they are close to Alaska but if Allah wants to he may show his specific mercy towards his people through something that is great.
There is another class above this and that those are the the now the earlier who who are those laws which just does show at their hands, certain miracles in certain kurama kurama so don't let nobody can become a prophet through these things, but they are they are miraculous things that happen in their lives. And then you got the highest ones who if they you know have the if they were to say that this is going to happen like in Sahih Muslim he says that there are certain people who are close to Allah low up summer Allahu Allah Baba Hadith Muslim, that if they were to say, well ye this will happen, Allah will make it happen.
This is how these Muslim, a Muslim This is this not sort of made up. They said, Well, why is it gonna happen? Allah will make it happen, because that's how close they are to him. Right? So, what I want to say to you is that of course these you know, some of the alarm on hand, Hydra, viola, they were from the idea of Allah azza wa jal. And the lesson for us is that as we get closer to Allah, you will find that Allah azza wa jal will do certain things for you and me in our lives. And it doesn't have to be so miraculous, as you know, possibly being near death, like right when I stood outside, I'm in a fire, and then you coming out alive it, it doesn't have to be to that level. But
it can be something simple where you know, in your heart, that this doesn't happen to normal person. It could even be like, one of the things my chef said, he said that, you know, for example, Allah gives Baraka in time, he gives you a blessing in time, and you could be one of those outliers, you could be one of those common areas that Allah gives you blessing in your time. Now, what is blessing your time me, he said, a very simple thing, which is quite profound. He said that
blessing in someone's time could mean that where it takes others, years and years to do something, it only takes you months to do it, it only takes you a year or two years to do it. Where it takes a decade for others to do something will take you a couple of years, three years to do it. But that is a kurama that is a column in itself. Because how did you get the trophy or the ability from Allah to do that thing within that space of time. So there are things that are very subtle, you might not realize, but Allah will show His mercy towards you and me, if we get closer to Allah. So the lesson from this is get closer to Allah. And you will see, you will see that Allah deals with you
differently from what he deals with other people, and when especially when it's dangerous. Because Rasulullah sallallahu, as the man said, in a Hadith, at that time was in a law, he said raha yashida get to know Allah in your
good times, you know, when you are just relax, when you're okay. When you're not relaxing, just normal, you know, like, there's no, there's no troubles there are there are times in our lives when you know, you're not bothered by troubles. However, things are just just going fine. In those moments, Professor lalala Solomon said, Get to know Allah.
Because these are good times. Because when you bad time come, they come over in the challenging times come or when you have have those who are not, when you become a person who is suddenly faced with certain troubles or stress or whatever, then Allah will be there for you will find him that you won't need to ask, you know, you will need to say, you know, our law, really, I really need to make a case for you to try and help me Allah will automatically help you, Allah will automatically do something for you. And this is the case of sarova the allow her that in her in other times, she's been a very good obedient, you know, servant of Allah. And when it comes to this time, she just
makes a draw to Allah and this man hands, you know, his hand it just freezes is not able to do the evil that he wants to do now.
If this king is rude because the again the the thing about whether he is in a mood or was a different thing, there is a whole debate that Brian malesuada has witnessed,
and his his attire and from his time he's he's one of those kings, whom when Allah gave him a kingdom, nobody else was ruling on the earth. There were no other kings on the earth. They say that
it was him.
They say that Allah azza wa jal has made four kings in the past.
Two of them were coffers and two of them are Muslims. And when they ruled there's been nobody on the earth. That rule, no rule on the earth.
Solomon Allah salatu salam was one of those that when he ruled on the earth
Then there was nobody else ruling, you know, at that time azucar name, they say was one of those, that when he ruled whose story is in the for under when he ruled, there was nobody else ruling on the earth. So these two are the Muslims and of the characters. They say his name Ruth. This is one of them. The kingdom is in the time with Dragon as well as Holly Sarah Sarah, and they say book The Noosa.
In his time he was he was a king, a cafe, nobody else would have ruled at that time. But anyway, that story I'm going to get to later now this is three statements that Ibrahim alayhis salam has made. And we need to look at these three statements. And the consequences of these because they appear in a hadith of Bokhari that Ibrahim alayhi salatu salam is hesitant to go in front of Allah azza wa jal on the Day of Judgment, because he may get questioned on these three statements that he made in his life. Number one,
is when he he, he is planning to stay behind on the day of the festival. And he wanted to break the idols. So when they asked him to come along to the festival, in Rihanna's salon salon, look towards the stars. And this is instead of soft fat, he looked to the stars for Nagara novel Ratan sakala. himself said, I'm not feeling well looked at the stars and said, I'm not feeling well. Right. So now, this is one of the statements What did he mean by that?
in writing, when I saw Salaam wanted to stay behind by saying I'm not feeling well, so I'm going to assistant said behind you guys go and have your festival and at the same time in his heart, he was that I'm going to stay back. I'm going to break the idols. What he did, what did he really mean? Because he wasn't really ill, while the other man say that what he meant was that mentally he is ill.
In his mind, he is ill How can these people be worshipping all these gods and so on? He's not feeling well mentally. second one was when he's when he broke when he broke the idols. And they asked him, did you read these idols? And he says, He says, This is the big one, go ask him, either he pointed with his thumb, or he kept the idol behind him. And he said, this is the big one. And you ask, you ask him. Now they say as I've explained before, either by saying this the big one, he had his thumb towards the idols, so this is the, the largest one out of all my fingers and so on. So this one meaning that we buy meaning this thumb is it's me. It's me. I broke it.
A second is that this one pointing to the shoulder? whereas they think that he's pointing towards the idols cause he meaning asked me, it was me who broke the idols
and the third one was this one where he tells his
wife says if he asked you who you are say that you my sister in the
witness, just send me your my sister finish because you're my sister in the religion. Now, these are the three statements in a handwritten Buhari.
They there's a very strong word used about him. And you got to understand this word. It says, fellas can be bad that there are three lies. Now whenever the word can be bad comes up. You come across the word Kadima, you normally translated as lies. But calibrating Arabic doesn't have to be translated as lies. It could be three statements that are seemingly a lie. That could be the translation, or it could be three mistakes, because in Arabic you do use Kathy, are kalaba that he made a severe mistake, he made a mistake. Now you might say, Well, you know, we just, you know what, why are we doing this? Well, our belief is that the prophets never, ever said the prophets don't sin. So this
word being there for Ibrahim alayhis salaam Salaam sounds very unusual. How is it that you know Prophet sallallahu is talking about all these prophets so in that Hadith long Howdy, there's no time to go into that Howdy. In that long Hadith. He says that Adam and Adam is hesitant on the day of judgment to go forward because he feels Allah asked me why did you eat from the tree? And Nuala Salaam fears that I was gonna ask me I called my son to embark the ark. And musala salam, he fears that he slept a man and he killed him or he punched him and killed him. And he thinks Oh, what's going to happen if Allah asked me about this, and he said I Salaam fears that if Allah says to me on
the day of jasmine was, you know was you sent to work? To get yourself worship your mother worship was the whole point of sending you on the earth, or was I supposed to be worship and he feel
Is that and therefore he doesn't want to go in front of Allah azza wa jal, and with Ibrahima salaams case is these three statements, he made three statements. And he's fearful that alarmed me asked him, Why did you make these statements? Now? First, our belief is that prophets never seen. That's how bleak the biblical stories will tell will say blatantly that they have seen they do sin and so on. And we don't believe in that. So we've got this dilemma. Second thing is that
the Prophet alayhi salatu salam,
Ibrahim alayhi wa sallam, he has said something, in what context? What was it? And why is it being seen as something which is negative? Why is Allah and His Messenger saying that he made three statements? Whether you say it's a seemingly lie, whatever it is, why are they making this statement? So let's first clear the first part, which is about the actual words, these statements were not lies. Let's get that clear. They will not lies. These statements, we know them as we, which is that you say something
you want you want, you get your audience to think about something, but what you mean is something different. They think you've said something, and you've just misled them. You know, it's kind of a misleading statement, but you haven't lied. And they say that when Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam he was traveling with, say the novel called the Allahu anhu, on the hijra, that there was an individual who came across them and he saw the profit and loss or you know, there's a big reward out for the for that a man called Mohammed. Now he doesn't know who this man is. So you know, a man man called Mohammed Oh, he's from Morocco, and so on. So if he finds out who this man is, maybe he may be able
to capture him and send him back to Macau and get the reward of 100 camels. So he says, you know, to our prophets, Allah, Allah says, Where are you from?
Now, if promise Allah said, I'm a Qureshi, or I'm a Hashimi, or I'm Maki, I'm from Makkah, then it raises the doubts and the suspicion about the profit and loss. So the Prophet salallahu alaihe salam when he when he was questioned where you from prophecy was replied said, and I mean, I'm from water.
Now, the truth is that we're all we're all from water. Yes. We're all made from water. So first of all, I said, and I mean, a map. And this guy's thinking, whoa, this village man never heard of this town called map water. I've never heard of it. Right? You know, you get you get these places called, you know, water this water that you know, what are you going to get this place is called No, it's called the rocky rocky something. What? There's no pulling rocks. There's only so he's probably thinking that, you know, it's a place called Matt. And I don't know where that place is. I'm looking silly here. So it is okay. Okay, carry on Coco.
But probably didn't lie. Because he's from water roll from water. But at that moment he used you know, what, where are you from my essence is from water. He used that because he knows that this man wants to get in captured. And he's in a very, very sort of, you know, delicate genitive. If they if they catch him, then you know they do all sorts of things to him and I will talk about the long run. So this is known as sort of pat we that you say something is not a lie at all. But you you save yourself from harm at that time. Because these people if you were to say what they want to hear then they will harm you. And the first instance if Brian restaurant doesn't have an excuse, and he stays
back they're gonna say why you stayed back you gotta come out he's gonna have no excuse to stay back in the second instance if if he had said to straight away that you know, I broke it. Then straightaway like ya know, the emotions are really high in a temple yeah you broke in with let's show you how we brought your your bones you knew okay
and the third instance if his wife was to say that I you know, I'm his wife then we know what happens now. Why we come to this first thing is that he didn't lie that's that's quite clear. The second question now is why is a lot is messenger making a comment about Ramallah Salah Salaam, as if they didn't want him to say these?
All I didn't want him to make these comments. Now, this is where we understand another principle of stuff.
Ibrahim alayhi salatu salam is so high and so close to Allah azza wa jal is so close and so high to allies with them that
Allah would not hurt
and Allah would not
make him be seen hurt in that sense on the ground. We've already got the incident about them throwing him in the fire.
If no Allah has already shown that if you allow Salam was, was in a in a, in a situation he's got enough faith in God, so much faith in Allah azza wa jal that Allah will do anything for him he is of that category that Allah will do anything for this heaven to protect him and to save him. So since Ibrahima Saracen has the D faith in Allah, and he knows that even if face to face, these people were to see me in a troublesome situation, my allies so close to me, that nothing's gonna happen, they can't do anything, he did have that case.
And Allah expected him to be bold at these three times, and not care about how to use this misleading way of making a statement and sort of slip out of trouble. Allah didn't want to do that. Allah in these three incidences, because he's so close to Allah, and he has the deep faith, Allah, Allah wanted him to be bold. And say, in the first instance, you know, I'm just saying that I'm okay. But I'm staying back and not care about people saying, okay, you know, what he drives up to something is up to somebody. second instance, to say what is broken idols? Yeah, I broke them. But you know, you can try and break break my bones.
Or, you know, just leave it to
the third instance, for him to say to his wife, how are we here? And, you know, just say that you might you my wife.
Now, again, this is a question here. When we say,
if we were to use such words, would it mean that we know that we're making these statements, and Allah doesn't want us to make these things? No, this is for the very closest people to Allah. And that's where we learn the new principle, the new principle is hassanal abrar say
that those who are the closest in rank expectations of them are very high.
expectations of them are very high. And let me give you an example.
If you find a policeman,
so think of a policeman, if a policeman was to be in his uniform,
and the policeman is talking to you, that's for several zombies on the street is trying to pull you over is home to you.
And the policeman uses informal language. This imagine a policeman says,
What?
Have you ever seen a policeman do that?
You ever seen a policeman do that? Cha cha, cha. Oh, just take just to say, you know,
even even to us, you know, like, we know that informal language, you don't say something was wicked when he was when you meant it was good.
You don't say that? informal language. You may use that. But informal language you say that was good. That was excellent. That was marvelous. You never say it's wicked. This is informal way of expressing oneself. Now you guys have all said you've never seen a policeman do that. I'm surprised why not? What kind of policeman do that to what kind of policemen just say that was wicked?
What can a policeman do that?
You know what kind of police you forget that we can walk in a policeman is to say, You know what?
Please don't do that. is in a human being? Yes, he is. does not know what informal languages. Yes, he does. uninformed behavior. Yes, he does. What you tell me why can he do that? Don't tell me.
Thank you. His his his status. Because he's in uniform. And he's in UT and so on, and has been given training. There's the whole status of the police force, and they train to always come professional, to the people that they're dealing with. And they must always use use formal language, and formal behavior, whatever is accepted to be utmost and high. Now, if you say to me, Well, if somebody said to somebody, you're a man or a woman, even though you're a man,
that's not bad. Is it bad? You just let's just analyze that. Is that bad? That's the monster. Yeah, he's cool. Yeah, he's related to me is cool.
Something which, which may be seen on an informal level that may be seen as good. That's not a lie. Is it a lie? Is it a swear? No, it's not it's not a swear. It's not
Light is in no way is it seen as negative. But for a policeman to use it, it's seen as negative because he's got that status. And that's where we understand this thing about Brian Melissa, because for him because of his status,
on those occasions are largely not wanting to use anything other than saying what the situation was. Okay? So that's what we learned from hasenhuttl. Abroad means
those who are
not, let's just say you got two classes of people who are close to Allah, you've got the righteous, and you've got the utmost closest to Allah. Okay, so you got the righteous at the bottom, and you've got the utmost closest to
the act, good actions of the people who are righteous, the good actions of the people who are righteous, is seem to be
sinful things for the people who are at most close to Allah.
You understand? What that means is the level Allah x level at the level you will expect of someone higher is a greater excellence than the people who are lower than them. Right? So for example, if you
if you saw, like, for example, let's say someone who you look up to be an Imam, or a chef,
and a mom or a chef, if you saw them, that they are whizzing through the prayers in the praying, but they their prayers.
And you saw him doing that. It's like, Whoa, you know, he's praying fine. He's doing fine. He's doing fine. He's saying his three supernova was fine, but he's doing a bit faster than what I would expect the man to do it. You know, if not a muscle he did. That was fine. Even if he was in a rush another Muslim lady, that was fine. But for any man to do that, oh, that's not right. You agree with me?
Yeah, that's not right. Why is he doing this so fast that he's supposed to be an example for us. And he's supposed to be nice in a nice day supposed to give us an example of how we should pray, pray ourselves. So Allah azza wa jal will expect that a man to behave differently because he's closer in terms of his knowledge and what Allah has given him than the common people who are righteous than the common people. And that's not and if he starts to behave or act like them, and that will be seen even in his piousness, if you actually behave like that is going to be seen as a as a kind of a simple thing. But anyway, we've understood that principle and the same principle is used for for all
the other prophets that might have been in a similar situation, and they've done suddenly was they've said something. And again, we are saying in every single sentence, that the word in Buhari that describes these three statements that the Prime Minister made as COVID, which normally would be translated as line, we are saying categorically, it doesn't mean line there. And you might say to me, Well, why? Why not? Because we've got similar cases in a Hardee's, where are a Chateau de la Juana? Ha, she uses the word cassava and the Arabs used to use the word Kathy, but they never meant, like, they made a mistake. So many times you will find in the Hadith in hundreds of Muslim for
example, she's hearing Abu huraira, viola Han, who is giving a dose in the masjid itself. She's in her quarters, you know, where the where the apartments where this is after the demise of the province of alarmism. And she's she hears him giving a commentary of a hadith.
And when she hears him making mistakes, she says kalaba agulla enemy of Allah has done Kalam, which would if you literally translate it would mean the enemy of God has just lied. It sounds very severe. But Arabs, you know, they had this way of expressing themselves that if they said something that they meant that How dare he makes such a mistake? That's all she was trying to say. How dare you make such a mistake? The profit and losses meant this, but you cannot literally translate this to mean that she thought that was the enemy of God, or that she actually believed that he lied against the prophets of Allah. No, she doesn't mean that. Okay, so there are these these
limitations. Okay, now, let's move on from here.
We come to the story of Ibrahim alayhi salatu salam having a confrontation with men who reminisce or having a competition with numbers.
Now num, Ruth was a king voted established, he was a king and his time no other King existed. What we mean by that is that at that time you civilization, a population of people when so great as he is today, today, we're all over the world. And those days you probably find just the Middle East was the
Taiwan populations work a lot harder. So numb rude either calls for Ibrahima salon salon. And he has this debate with him that some generation say that he actually called him over. Another generation says that drivers are exactly passing by and numbered wants to quiz him on his beliefs. So this part is in Surah, Baqarah surah number two and number 258. So two and number 258 allows us and tells us he says 11 Tara, Have you not seen Illa de
je Brahim of Europe? Have you not seen the one who held a mutual debate with Ibrahim alayhi salatu salam regarding his load?
And Atta, hula hula? Why this king?
Why this person held this mutual debate was because Allah gave him Dominion on this earth is Allah Ibrahim when Ibrahim alayhi salatu salam made a statement. And he said, Rob be a lady you he will meet. My lord is the one who causes life. And my lord is the one who causes death,
the king replied, and he will meet, I give life and I cause death.
So what happened here is that the debate was happening. And it got to a certain point, Allah is not telling us the entire debate. But he's giving us a very snapshot of it. And there's going to be big lesson in this for all of us. And every single story you will find many, many lessons that you can derive from it. So what's happening here is that Allah says there's a mutual mutual debate had just a shows that there's a two way
there's a two way sort of discussion going on. There's a two way if Allah azza wa jal used a different word, it would have meant that the king is trying to impose his beliefs on him, Brian malasana salam, and he's not giving him a chance to speak. But it wasn't that that wasn't the case. He was having a to and fro with Ibrahim Elisa, what this shows is that whenever we're in a situation, you've got to be on a platform, if you're debating with someone that you have an equal good say. Now with debates, those are the huge, you know, science behind debates. There's a huge science behind debates. And I want to take this opportunity to say that today, many, many debates
and discussions are going on. Would you agree with me? Yes or no? Many, many debates and discussions of an odd read me
aware of most of those debates and discussions happening.
Sorry. TV, some of them? Yes. And where else? Are these debates and discussions happening? Sorry? Social media good. And where else?
Parliament you can say yes, some of them are sort of happening fine. I'm talking about more between the sort of most most common sort of people.
Sorry.
Okay, university schools. But I think where, what I was looking for is that if you actually look at the, the amount of conversations debates that are taking place, most of them are actually happening, I'm talking from the common people from their side, most of them are happening
on social media or the internet, in chat rooms, in emails in forums, most of them own right now. It's, I mean, I know, normally people on their phones, if it's a whatsapp group, they will only converse with people who they know. But if it's to do with, you know, these blogs, these chat rooms, or these sort of, either you want to call them internet chat rooms, or you want to call them comments made off a video or something, you will find that most people are making them on those on those mediums. Now, the question here comes with all of these people who are debating is what is the nature of how they're going about with these debates? Number one, and the most most important thing
is you've got to have a clear platform, have you been able to talk with each other in the right, in the right medium? So if somebody has got the upper hand over you, in a debate, there is no point of view going in that debate. Is that is that clear with everyone, if somebody has has got an upper hand with you, so they're either not allowing you to speak, either not allowing you to speak or they're going to have most of the speaking and you're going to have less of it or that dominating it with powers that are unwritten rules. So for example, during the debate, and what happens is that they've got a group of people around them, and this group of people what they're doing is that
they're they're all sort of you know, during the year in every time he speaks against either
I was in the parliament.
And they're trying to show that, you know, the government might got more power, you look really silly looks such a fool. And just saying all of that, you know, and how they've got the power on this as an issue of numbers of how many people actually believe in, you know, this, this, this opponent of yours, and you kind of feel intimidated part of debates, they move in a very intimidating sort of fashion.
And you got to be wary of this. Because if you enter a debate or discussion, you can't have these factors that are going to make you feel that unnecessarily, you know, you've lost, you're losing your way or you debate. Another one. What happens very commonly in debates is that when you're when you're arguing on one point, the person moves on a second point.
Are you following me? So you try to get towards this point? And they totally change the subject or whatever? No, no, not at all. And they move in different directions. So you've got to be very clear in making your point. So that you, you're on the same subject and of the subject, you're in a very narrow point, you make that point, you're okay with discussing on this narrow point. Okay, fine. Let's now have a discussion. And you will see that Ibrahim alayhi salatu, Salam has narrowed this entire debate, right to one point, which is, you as num rude. You believe that you are God or you're, you're the Lord of all these people? Because that's what number used to be. He used to
believe that He is the Lord. He's a god.
So the debate is, Are you the Lord? Or is Allah azza wa jal, the Lord, that's the base, so is narrowed down to specific target discussion, very important to do that. Never start a debate with somebody who may open carry on opening different debates within debates and take the discussion to all these different directions. You never you won't get anywhere. Right? There's got to be these rules that you follow on your Bible.
I one of the worst thing that happens in debates is that it moves from a rational sense to emotional split. Right? So what happens is that, you know, your opponent sees that he's gonna lose this debate. So what he does is he starts to get emotional, either he gets heated up, what are you trying to sell dumb? Are you trying to sell him dumb? No, not what but how can you make? How can you make a comment about me? So what they do is they just go into an email, emotion outlets.
And what happened to you then is that forget talking about a debate on rational sense, they dropped down to an emotional one, an emotional one just means that you know, that's it, that's it, I'm just going for you. I don't care you you hurt my feelings? You know, or you made a comment that was derogatory? Well, I find that derogatory, I find that that was unfair for you to say like that. Yeah. And now the whole debate has gone out the window, because done like, Whoa, let Lincoln calm this guy down, and all of that this guy, you know, it's like, I'm not looking at the victim. That's what happens. They make you look like the Sorry, I'm looking at the perpetrator. So you're just
having a normal conversation, you go into debate, you got your opponent into a corner, you're about to drop your, you know, main conclusion, say, you know, this shows that your flow, your argument is flawed, and they become emotional, and to the audience, they want to show that you have unnecessarily poked at them or in some way irritated them or some way you've done something wrong, and you've been a perpetrator, and they're the victim, and everyone should feel sorry for the one who's getting emotional. And it's just a way out. It's just a way that they can get out of the debate. And unfortunately, unfortunately, I have to say this. Most people with a low set of skill
intelligence skills, they do this they fight emotionally even debate the facts and unfortunately the Muslims of the caliber they do exactly the same thing. I'm not saying this is a Muslim problem. This is a human problem is in every single race is in every single people I've traveled quite a lot I've seen every single as many races I've come across as many people or nations I've come across it's a human problem don't think is a Muslim problem. But on the Muslim side, it makes you feel bad that we've got the right religion and people become emotional. So what happens is that in all these online debates where I said to you why picture for you these social media, and you know, online
forums or blogs and so on. I get so annoyed and Muslims when they turn emotional
and sometimes they are forced to try and get that emotional side so what happens that they're having a debate, it could be anything sparks off. somebody writes something negative about Mohammed salah and somebody writes a negative about Allah azza wa jal, and the conversation was something else it could mean anything, but obviously a non Muslim has
Come on, come across, and he's trying to just stir and say something very horrible about our profits and alarmism. Now that point with such people a last tollers either har Baba, je Luna carlu Salama, when ignorant people foolish people make remarks to you about something. Then just say p says Salaam Alaikum. This just peace. Just Just walk with Eman Shafi Rahim Allah He made it he made a wonderful statement. He said, you bring me. He said you bring me one. I think one statement he said,
you bring me an out of
100 people.
You bring me like 99 different scholars neinstein people who scholarly level, who got the got the knowledge, who know the art of debate, to have got the mannerisms and all that that 99 of those people who are well knowledgeable, and they put them against me, in any debate in anything, I believe or anything on my shelf for my jurisprudence, and you put me against them, then I will overcome all 99 I think in one generation, it was 100 sort of scholars, I will overcome all of them.
Because once you know the art of debate of civilized debate, once you don't take it to an emotional level, once you know that, you know you Conant okay be your man and accepted me, man. And
then you can carry on talking to as many people like that, and it will go in a nice direction. But he said, you know, Shakira, he said, you bring me one, just one ignorant person. And I've lost the debate.
I lost the debate. Why did he say that? Because we the jockey learn ignorant person who doesn't follow the normal rules of how to communicate. He's going to throw tantrums and flares and whatever else and just say, No, no, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. We don't we talk about hidden we're talking about knowledge you have. What did you study?
But I don't accept that. You know, people who don't have that, that right. Other respect in you know, presented himself, they'll always be taught to these, these levels. So why am I mentioned that is because
what happens on these many of these online debates is that Muslims, they lose their cool, they start to say, yeah, yeah, you whatever, you dare come and say that to me here, you will say that my nonprofit, you cannot say that in front, my face and a shout out smash your face off. Now, hang on a minute, the non Muslims out there is tearing you up, because he knows the non Muslim knows that you don't know what his identity is. He's hiding behind the screen.
You don't know. And you think he probably even talking to a male, you could be talking to a female.
You think you're talking a female could be male, it could be anything. It could be in between hybrid female, a male.
It could be anything, you don't know who you're talking to. Right? But you know, writing these words to him or her doesn't make you any better. If they're being derogatory towards you. It doesn't make you any better in any way. Because simply as as a person who has good manners as a Muslim, you don't retort to emote an emotional level. Right? And it's very sad that there are there are people out there who are in effectively the giving Islam a bad name, because they move to that emotional side. And not only that, you see a lot of us, you know, even when we get together in some of our protests, and some of our you know, in some some sort of one to one sort of conversations out there is that
people resort to these kind of levels, where you think now you know, this Muslim should and shouldn't have done this. Anyway. The debate here is a Brian Melissa lamb is debating specifically about whether this person is a god or not. Now, nothing rude, says I gave life and death. And to prove it. He says I'm going to prove to you that I give life and death. So number one says call upon to eternal sevens call upon this man who a prisoner won't get a prisoner out of what I'm like jails. It brings him over here. And he's in shock. He's shackled. He says you. Okay? Seven, send him free prisoner who's got no life. I set him free. So he said him go, let him go. And a free man who else
was innocent? He called him over. He said he come over here to the spiritual killing.
It says Look, I give life and I give this
Obviously, that was very,
kind of a very silly way to try and prove that one has the capability of giving life and death. Because real life and death would mean that you can give life and death to the whole of the world. Yes or no. So all creatures, you have a power over them to give them life and death. Now, how is he Brian ally Saracen, I'm gonna say to him that,
you know, in this debate, how are you going to say to this king King, you know, if you really had proper power gives you life and death. You do to a lot of people, you wouldn't just do it to these two men. And the thing is about him setting a man free, that's not really giving life that's not really creating someone from birth, you know, out of nothing, being a harlot administrator, and making them come out of nothing like a baby comes out of a room's womb of a mother. Now, how is Ibrahim and I said I wasn't gonna say say that approve any of that. And if he does say, say Maggie Berenson setting, you know, that was only two men.
What you asking the king to do said okay, bring me 10 men are you all tend to feed Edmund oboe?
Yeah, you want me to do 100 and reprove to 100 men or 1000 men that I can kill them or set them free? And then you believe in that I'm god no. You Brian when I saw Sam had a deeper way of completely shutting the mouth of this tyrant King completely making him look gobsmacked.
Because if you look at this earth, one way of looking at how Allah azza wa jal gives life on this earth, and causes death on this earth is through the sun.
If the sun was not to shine, or even come up, what would happen to life?
Wouldn't life
be finished? If the sun never rose never rose, you will see that life would go in different directions. This is just one creation of Allah azza wa jal, just one I mean, obviously Allah has many rain is another one, you know he has wind as another one. He has so many different creations that he's got, through which he brings life on this earth, and he causes death on this earth. The sun is just one of these means. So if Mrs. Allison said he said, My Lord is the one who has power over the sun,
what he does is he controls it. So if you if you're someone who's claiming that you can give life and you can cause death, then a lord has the power to control a great source out there of giving life and creating depth, and that is the sun.
So if my lord is the one yet to be shall see me in a nutshell, every morning, my lord makes sure that the sun rises from the east, and he takes it to the west. If he really got power, and fine, could you now reverse it, and bring the sun from the west so that we know that you are the Lord? And Allah says a bow hit the man was that
you know, when someone's just like flabbergasted, gobsmacked, like
what I'm gonna say to them, I've got no answer. So Allah azza wa jal says, For bu Gita la de Kapha The one who committed careful, committed, you know, disbelief, show disbelief. He's the one who Allah caused him to be left. dumbfounded. Well, Allahu La Jolla del Carmen valen. Allah does not guide those who are from from the people who cause oppression. Now, there's a there's a lesson here, apart from the lessons of rule reset, the lesson is Allah says, before even this king speaks, Allah says, He held a mutual debate and a hula hoop because I gave him the dominion.
I give him the kingship. I give him kingdom, I make him a king. And then he has the authority to speak to me like this. Right?
What the lesson here is, for us, at every tyrant, every person you're speaking to everyone, you have got some kind of debate going on with somebody who doesn't want to believe there's a reason why they don't believe and there's a reason why they're acting the way they're acting. For for non rude it was the fact that he had this Dominion for the movie was up, you know, I'm a king. And I believe now when a king becomes a king, obviously, you know, they move along. And this king is very powerful because in his time, there is no other King. So it's not like
He has to prove himself to go out there and knock on another few kings and say what now, I'm a strong king, he is the only King around there is no other King heard of in his time. So you can imagine the level of arrogance and stubbornness in this king. And over time, it led him to believe that you know what, this is all mine, I can do what I want, I can kill, and I can set free who I want. And he is to expect people to come to Him and to bow down to him and treat him as a god. Right? So the reason was that Allah says, I gave him the I gave him that as a gift. And that's why he does that many people you will find who may not be completely believing in the message that we've
got, there's always a reason now it's very good to find out the reason and diagnose them. What is the what is the the stance upon which they are becoming so arrogant. In this case, it was the fact that he's a king. He is a king. And now he feels that he's the Lord. So So what he
did in his debate is he proved to him that look, you know what? Okay, you think you're the Lord, you think you're such a powerful King, okay, fine, come with this consciousness, this new the sun, needs direction. You think you have so much power so much kingship that you control everything out there, fine gun control that. And when he left him dumbfounded, what had happened is that the very reason why the king was being arrogant was proved to be the very reason that he didn't really have he don't have real Dominion on this earth. He don't have that kinship, in debates when you have with people, if you prove to them in some way, that you know what, this is the reason why you're so so arrogant,
or why you're so sort of against this message, you can prove to them that it's a very reason why you reach this position, and it's the very thing you're going to lose as well. Most people on this earth who become stubborn, who become arrogant, they become arrogant and stubborn or in denial for one of these gifts that allows the reasons given and they take it for granted and because of that they become who they are. So that's that's a you know, one lesson to learn from this.
And
finally,
a loss of a journal he says that, in the Quran is what tilaka jetavana attain. Ibrahim, Allah told me not to fall down. Jatin, Manisha, Allah says these are arguments which I gave, you know, like the one with the sun, the moon, the stars, and the one that he had, you know, how we debate with them, you call them they don't eat them drink all these arguments. And even this latest argument allows you that he says, I gave these powerful hjem is a very powerful argument. I gave these powerful argumentative skills or these argumentative ways to bribe my slot fella
that he will he could use against his people. And I raised the status of whoever I want. We've got to understand from this mumblings. The final thing I'm saying today, is that some of us are going to be naturally more equipped in debating or proving a point of Islam than others. And we should naturally and now those people who are more articulate with their tongues more better in their thinking more precise, more careful in how they put the arguments forward, and more deep and sound in their knowledge, we should always put them forward then to put ourselves food is free from feel that's the case, especially with the media, especially with cases where you've got some some people
where you don't know how to take the you know, how to take the argument. And you can see that in the seal of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam when Jaffa was with a group of Muslims, they went to Ethiopia, they put your foot forward and Jaffer made the case for the Allahu anhu about you know, Islam and and the beliefs of Islam and that just settle the whole matter within two short speeches he gave to the king to sort of short speech he gave him one to one day and the one the next day when the enemies came to take them away. It was it it just silence everyone. We need these people we need to promote these people because Allah gives Allah Allah said, some people I raised them. However,
whoever I want, I raised them. Some of them some of us in our international intellectual cap capacities have been raised above
these