Hamzah Wald Maqbul – 20 Ramadn 1442 Late Night Majlis Mind Needs Heart New Orleans

Hamzah Wald Maqbul
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The ADM is colder and busier of the year, with Moana Jalal born on the eighth of the month and the return of Moana's influence on sharia. The historical significance of Moana's book Moana Rumi is emphasized, along with the use of rationality as a tool in the religious industries. The discussion also touches on the importance of philosophy and the holy wisdom of the church of the holy wisdom in the worldview of the church of the holy wisdom. The transcript uses various examples and references to illustrate the importance of using rationality in the religious industries. Moana's story is discussed as a story about a man named Jalal Qaeda Rumi, the founder of a new scholasticism system, and the potential of Moana's story for publication.
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Has brought us to this 20th night of

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Ramadan.

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This night is the seal of the nights

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of the, Wasat, of

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the middle of Ramadan.

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That this is such a month the beginning

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of which is mercy

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in the middle of which is forgiveness

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and the last of which is manumission from

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the hellfire.

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Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala give us from his

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forgiveness.

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Allah

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in this Mubarak night and the Mubarak day

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that follows it.

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Make dua for Allah's forgiveness. May He forgive

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you and me. May He forgive you and

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me such that

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we are forgiven and leave from this forgiveness

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like the day our mothers bore us.

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And may Allah give us the of living

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a clean life

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for here from here on out, a clean

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life and a beautiful life, one with no

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regrets

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and one with no shame

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and one with no ill will and 1,

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and with we don't have a guilty conscious

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nor do we give anyone else a guilty

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conscious,

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And likewise,

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all the days of our life will pass.

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And likewise, all the days of this month

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will pass.

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Tomorrow,

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whoever wishes to go,

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into the and to make into

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let them enter their place of

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before the sun sets.

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And, if you're one of them, please make

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dua for me as well. Allah

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accept from you and accept from me and

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accept from the Ummah of Sayyidina Muhammad Sallallahu

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Alaihi Wasallam Amin.

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So we continue with

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the 8th chapter of Mawana Sayyid Abu Hasan

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Ali Nadwiz,

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saviors of the Islamic spirit,

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which is the last, chapter in his first

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volume.

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And it is the one about the life

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of Moana Jalaluddin

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Rumi.

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Rumi,

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is one of

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the brilliant minds of this Ummah and one

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of the

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brilliant hearts of this Ummah. And unfortunately, unfortunately,

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because

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of the people's obsession with

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a type of protestant,

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protestant, like,

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Jerry rig,

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approach to Islam.

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We have completely missed the boat,

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with,

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with this just brilliant treasure. Allah Ta'ala

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really at his,

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at his hands

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brought about

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a revolution of love

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amongst the people,

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not necessarily,

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that he

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brought anything new,

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in his poetry,

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in his expression.

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Rather, what he did was he took those

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themes

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and those stories and those

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images that are painted vividly in the Quran

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and in the sunnah of the prophet

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and through our tradition.

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And he recast them in a beautiful way

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such that just regular folks of his era

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could, understand them and relate to them. And

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really, regular folks from almost every era will

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find something that they can relate to. It's

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very interesting that, where a lot of Muslims

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have kinda clocked out,

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literarily.

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Milana Rumi is the best selling author,

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best selling poet, I should say, in the

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English language or was at least for quite

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some time.

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And,

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the fun part is that his, poetry is

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so beautiful in its imagery

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that it gets people hooked. And, because nobody,

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has any in their translations,

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they,

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basically do

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a a a a a a snow job

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on the entire,

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venture translating him, and god knows what's and

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what's the others to the point where if

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somebody quotes something and, you know, and attributes

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it to Mulana Rumi, unless I see the

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Persian,

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text with it. I I just don't believe

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it, and I don't really see, that there's

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enough of a a a consistency that anyone

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really should.

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But that doesn't mean that, he's not a

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beautiful poet.

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Our masha'if that we took from in our

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Molana Tanvi, Rahimullah,

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and Akabir masha'if of Durban.

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These were people who were, of the most

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strident and stringent adherence to the sharia of

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Sayidina Muhammad

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and they're the people who whether a person

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agrees with them or not, they are the

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people who,

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expended the most energy and the most resources

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in

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producing the infrastructure to keep the,

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the Sharia and the knowledge of the Sharia

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floating around, society.

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So if you're gonna read the Hidayah in

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the world today or if you're gonna read

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the

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and or if you're gonna read really even

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Sahih Bukhari or Sahih Muslim anywhere in the

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world,

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statistically,

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chances are you're gonna read in a madrasah

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that was connected to them.

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And, Molana Rumi,

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exercised such an effect on Hazratanri

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that

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he actually wrote a multi volume commentary on

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his Masnawi,

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in Urdu called the Khalidi Masnawi.

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And, really all the vocabulary of Deoban, it's

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very,

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common to find them quoting, Abiath from Masnawi

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Sharif

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in, in in

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Persian.

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And, *

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It's reported that he passed from this world,

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with a copy of the Masnavi, open,

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in something reminiscent to,

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you know, Sheikh Al Akbar passing away from

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this world with a copy of the open

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or, Imam Ghazali

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passing away from this world with a copy

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of Sahih Bukhari opened that it tells you

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something about that person's.

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And the is

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again,

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something that is

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attested to by generations of scholars.

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A book, that

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is a summary of folk folk summary and

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a readily easily digested summary of the to

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Allah,

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the the spiritual path to Allah subhanahu wa

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ta'ala.

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And, so many ulama attested to his brilliance.

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It said that in the Ottoman madrasa system,

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that system that created geniuses like Mustafa

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Sabari and, Mohammed Zahid al Kothari,

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in the later times and in the older

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times, Sheikh Abu Sir Udafendi, Mulla Feneri,

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and,

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the sheikh,

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even, Kamal Basha, etcetera.

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You know, great of the tradition,

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that, in the Ottoman Madrasa system, it was

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a year of that the people, after learning

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their and receiving their,

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they would read the Masnavi of Molana Rumi

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from a scholar known as the Masnavi Khan,

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not Khan in the Turco Mongolic sense but

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Khan as in

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in in Persian means to read. She's the

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reader, the reciter who will then go through

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the and

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and show all the places where Milana Rumi

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makes allusions to

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precepts, in different,

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different

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intellectual,

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parts of our tradition,

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in his poetry in a way that that

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regular people would not understand, but it's really

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replete with, just gems of the tradition.

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And, it's really sad that people have turned

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away from it. And to be honest with

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you, it's only when I hear the of

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the that I wish I spent more time

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learning Persian. If a person wants to read

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the from a Sunni, who

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is,

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for who has, you know, that goes back

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to Milana Rumi in in the in the

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traditional understanding of it. They can contact,

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Moana Tamim Ahmedib,

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in, the Bay Area.

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Unfortunately, there are very few English speakers

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who,

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have this, mastery of the Persian language and

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some knowledge of, the literary tradition in order

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to be able to read

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with them.

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But there are many, Urdu speaking,

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like that and many, Persian speaking Ullama in

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Afghanistan, Tajikistan, places like this. Will Allah

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give us the opportunity to read these books.

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They're very beautiful, and they're Mubarak books. There's

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a a bait in, Persian,

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praising the Masnavi. It's obviously not a bait

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of the Masnavi.

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So Masnavi,

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Moolavi, Moolavi, Mahnavi,

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has Quran, Dar Zabani, Pahlavi.

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That this Masnavi,

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this this

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and

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godly,

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work

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of the,

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the

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the couplets,

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that's

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that is filled with realities

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as if it is a Quran in the,

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ancient tongue of the Persians.

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And, you know, what happens is literalist, they

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lose their mind. They're like, oh, look. These

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people think that this book is, like, why?

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And, look. They're all Kafirs and whatever. No,

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dude. Like,

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that's not what it means. I guess some

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people,

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their mind is,

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in a race to the bottom trying to

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find out, like, you know, trying to, like,

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steal,

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shirk,

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you know, out of the jaws of, like,

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Dohid,

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in every single situation. But the point is

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is what is that what the point is

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is that the the book brings the lessons

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of the Quran and the precepts of the

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Quran and and teaches it to the people

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in so many different,

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places

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and in so many different ways that regular

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people oftentimes, they miss the boat, especially those

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who are not conversant in classical Arabic. Many

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Arabs even nowadays, they're ayat to the Quran.

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They hear it. They have no idea what

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it means.

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Because it's a different tongue.

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It really is a different language. You have

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to study it. And so,

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sometimes the the the lessons, if they can

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be imparted in a simple way for people

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who don't have the time to go through,

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the rigorous informal study of

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of of of tafsir or of hadith or

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whatever, This is a great service for people.

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And, we ask Allah to raise the rank

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of Mawlana and of all those people who

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brought the teachings of Islam,

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to the people, Ami.

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So Molana said, Abu Hasan Ali Nadawi,

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he, begins this 8th chapter on Molana Jaladin

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Rumi,

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who is himself if there is somebody in

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the Persianate

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that, is known by the the the Lakab,

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the title of Maulana without any qualification

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needed afterward. It's generally a Molana Rumi.

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He's he's begins his chapter on Molana,

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with, kind of a backdrop, the crisis of

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rationalism.

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By the time the 7th century of the

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Muslim era began, dialectics had come to occupy

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such a pride of place amongst the religious

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sciences

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that nobody could lay a claim to scholarship

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unless he had mastered the controversial issues between

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the and

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on one hand, and between the and on

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the other hand.

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Fafarodina Razi, who died in 606,

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Hijri,

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had attracted,

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all minds so powerfully that the human intellect

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had come to be acknowledged by all as

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in the infallible touchstone for the verification of

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metaphysical truths. A compromise between reason and faith,

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which was regarded as the ultimate end by

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the scholars of the time, had made them

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so fond of,

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ratiosentation.

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I'm sorry. Ratiosentation.

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I don't know what this word is nor

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have I seen it before, but it's part

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of the charm of the old Indian edition.

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That no, religious dogma or tenet of the

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faith was acceptable to them unless it could

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be established by rational arguments, logical syllogism, and

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philosophical premises.

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It is true that the had

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succeeded in building up a powerful system of

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Islamic scholasticism,

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which gained the day against the atisal and

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philosophy.

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But they had nevertheless imbibed the spirits spirit

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of these sciences.

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The system of metaphysical theology evolved by the

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Asharis had a deep rationalistic foundation,

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which allowed reason to delve into the questions

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relating to the nature and attributes of God

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and to discuss the metaphysical issues as freely

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as did the philosophers in.

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As a consequence, naturally, they also had come

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to regard, the conceptual data furnished by the

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human senses as the most reliable criterion for

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verification of certitude.

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They had thus accepted logical reasoning, speculative thinking

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as a cornerstone for building up their arguments,

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for the affirmation

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of the religious tenets and finding out the

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ultimate reality.

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Now there's a lot here,

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to unpack.

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At first glance, it seems that Mullana Abu

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Hassan Ali Nadeau is critiquing Ilmukhlam itself,

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which,

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which isn't the case. The problem is this.

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Look. First of all, you have to define

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a couple of things.

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When he talks about rationalism, does he say

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that this is an attack on rationality? Meaning,

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is rationality not a valid source of knowledge

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in Islam? And the answer is no. He's

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not attacking rationality.

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In fact, the Quran,

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doesn't ever attack anyone for being rational.

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It affirms rationality

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as a valid source of knowledge and, in

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fact, attacks people for being irrational.

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The

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the

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the idea is not that the Quran is

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against rationality, but that rationality is a tool

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and a a a kind of a kit

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of tools in order to understand the world

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around you.

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Empiricism is another tool, which is the senses.

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But if someone says, well, if I can't

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see it, taste it, smell it, touch it,

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it doesn't exist,

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that person is,

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being an empiricist in the sense that they

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affirm the truth that's garnered or furnished by

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empirical knowledge by the senses and by what

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you can count and touch,

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above the,

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knowledge that can be gained by rationality,

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and this is an imbalance.

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And so just like that,

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the and other scholars had

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used the

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the formal,

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the the the the formal,

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study of logic and the forms of logic,

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syllogisms, etcetera, in order to try to understand

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those things that are not really going to

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be understood

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through through logic or through rationality.

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If you wanna see that you know, if

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someone says write a formal syllogism, you know,

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explaining

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why fire is hot.

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This is kinda stupid. You just kinda put

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your hand in the fire and you're like,

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empirically, you can sense that it's hot and

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it's kinda like game over, which leads to,

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you know, the

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the, the the famous,

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verse of poetry in Arabic.

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Or however it goes. That, nothing in the

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minds is right

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if, you say to someone it's daytime and

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they say, what's your proof? Like, you should

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be able to look outside the window, and

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it's just not something you have to discuss.

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So like that, rationality is a tool just

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like empiricism is a tool. If you use

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rationality to try to prove those things that

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you should be able to verify empirically,

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something's gone wrong. And just like that, there

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are some realities that you're not going to

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be able to

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verify through rationality.

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And,

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you know, the division of the knowledge of

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the deen by the prophet

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is very elegant division in the hadith Jibril

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that there's Islam,

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iman, and ihsan.

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And, mashallah rationality has served a person in

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their Islam and in their iman a great

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amount.

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But in their Ihsan, it's not it's not

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the horse you're gonna ride. It may be

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a helper, but there's something else that's needed

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inside the inside the heart in order to

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worship Allah as if you see him. And

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if you don't see him, to know that

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he sees you. And to ignore, you know,

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that third set of things, it will cause

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an imbalance in a person's,

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knowledge and in their action and in their

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character. And this is what Mawlana is trying

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to say. Otherwise, Masha'allah Fakhruddin Razi was a

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great defender of Islam and of the Muslims.

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May Allah exalt his rank.

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Otherwise,

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of Ashari and the school,

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they defended Islam against all sorts of follies

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and stupidities, and they're the ones who kept

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the sunnah as the supreme,

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source of

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knowledge and of guidance within the Muslim civilization

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where the Christians had abandoned abandoned wholesale, Saidna

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Isa alaihi sama's teaching, and the Jews had

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abandoned Saidna Musa alaihi sama's teaching wholesale,

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a long time ago.

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And they even abandoned their persons a very

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long time ago, a very long time ago,

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to the point where it's Muslims who are

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walking around dressed like Christ and like Musa

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Alaihi Islam. And, it's the Muslims who are

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the ones who hold them and their, memory

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as holy, and everybody else at maximum pays

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them lip service,

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and they have nothing to do with them,

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at all. And so this is this is,

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you know, this the point here is not

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necessarily to take a patch out of,

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because even Rumi himself was,

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sure, you know,

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well aware of.

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And there are, you know, there are

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points and there are motifs from

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that will make it into his his verse.

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But the beauty of it is that the

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verse is not

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it's not there necessarily to,

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you know, teach you how to form a

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syllogism, but it's there to take the fruit

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of what we,

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approve through those syllogisms,

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and

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then use it in order to supply the

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heart with the power it needs, in order

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to worship Allah as if it sees him.

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And if it doesn't, to know that he

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he sees them.

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And, you know, one of the things about,

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you know, the syllogism you can make a

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syllogism that's

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in the form of of rational syllogism and

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it still doesn't yield the correct result.

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And and and people do it all the

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time. If all you,

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depend on in your knowledge is rationalism,

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you know, sometimes you can deceive yourself with

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these these games that people play,

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and Allah

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knows best. The second thing that I wanted

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to mention was when the ulama talk about

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in the context of Ilm ul Kalam, when

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they talk about philosophy,

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they don't mean philosophy in the way that

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we,

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use it like in the modern academia or

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in the linguistical sense, which is philosophy with

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the love of wisdom.

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That's not,

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you know, philo meaning, love and,

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Sophia meaning what? Meaning wisdom. Right? Like, the

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the,

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the Hagia Sophia is the the the church

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of the holy wisdom or whatever.

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That's not

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that's not, that's not what they mean.

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Rather,

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philosophy was a system. This is the philosophy

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that,

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was embraced by the and impugned by the,

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by the of

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the

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was a world view and a system

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that,

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was embraced by the pagans of ancient Greece

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and Rome and many ancient paganistic people.

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It was a worldview. It was a cosmology,

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and it was quite an irrational cosmology.

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It was a cosmology that, affirmed, you know,

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two realms of the superlunary realm and the

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sublunary realm. Superlunary

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realm is made up of perfect spheres that

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are all in one

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eternal motion, which is completely perfect and unchanging.

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And the sublunary realm was like a place

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that's in complete chaos, and it receives,

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you know, instruction or, its power from the

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superlunary realm. And there's the original intellect and

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then that began begat the second intellect and

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then there are 10 different intellects. And the

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reason they call them intellects is what is

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because in the original old Greek, they were

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basically gods. But when you translate that stuff

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into Arabic, you know, you're gonna have to

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translate it as instead of because otherwise, the

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Muslims are gonna, like, burn the book or,

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like, throw it in the garbage. And so

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what happens is that all of those

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old books of ancient Greek pagan thought,

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they make it into the Muslim world.

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And,

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the are like, yeah. This is some good

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stuff. And

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were like,

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no. We don't think so. We don't think,

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like, that the, you know, that the the

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moon is like

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a a a a rock in the sky.

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It's not like some sort of thing that's,

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like,

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channeling, like, some sort of weird divine perfect

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celestial,

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perfection into the into the earth or whatever.

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And so really, the philosophy of the ancients,

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which was this worldview,

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that was taught part and parcel of the

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education system of,

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basically the the Greeks and then afterward the

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Roman Empire, who is their intellectual

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successor and custodian,

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and then afterward in in in the middle

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ages,

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in Europe. And it actually ends up becoming

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more or less that that kool aid gets

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drunk in the church.

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And it was also drunk by the Muslims

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who studied those things and took certain useful

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parts out of it, which is, you know,

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the formal, the formal,

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study of logic, the forms of logic.

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They kinda took that one useful part and

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then took all this other useless parts, all

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these other useless parts, with it. And

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the

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meaning.

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They said, yes. That's fine. You know, the

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formal Aristotelian logic is has some some usefulness.

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And so we're gonna take it, and we're

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gonna use it to prove that all the

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other, like, kind of about,

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about the, nature of the universe and the

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universe being having existed forever and all these

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these things have no proof and they have

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no daleel or burhan.

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And, they actually seem to go against the

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sunnah of the prophet

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and we wholesale reject them.

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And so that's what the when, you know,

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when you'll hear, like, people like

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or some of the other,

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kind of, like, speak ill of philosophy, they're

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not talking about, like, loving wisdom is bad

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and somehow if you think too much about

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stuff or if you use too much logic,

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you're gonna go astray. That's just dumb.

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Wisdom is great. And if wisdom had anything

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bad about it, Allah himself would not be

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Al Hakim.

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And,

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the, Sunawas would not be referred to in

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the

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Quran as in Hikma,

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and the Sharia, etcetera,

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would not be, you know, referred to as

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sources of wisdom.

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And if, you know, loving wisdom was a

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problem, then none of this would make any

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sense.

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But,

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the when they when they chastise philosophy, they're

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talking about that old pagan, like,

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pagan worldview and cosmology,

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that we don't believe that the, you know,

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the stars have one sort of ancient motion

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that's perfect that last that, you know, happened

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forever.

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Rather, it seems to us that they're like

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big balls of gas that burn and, like,

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do weird violent things that are anything from

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regular, and they have many different disparate types

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of motion. And, you know, you can go

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watch, like, whatever PBS Nova for more details

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about that.

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And in that sense,

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the the the the the

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the

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were right, and they were right centuries before,

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PBS or Carl Sagan ever figured any of

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this stuff out.

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So,

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Shabash. Molana Abu Hassanali Naddui continues that the

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religious scholars throughout, the Islamic world had, as

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a result, been seized by an excessive formalism

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of dialectics,

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which too had, by then deteriorated into a

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stale science handed down from generation to generation

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without any additional modification.

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It had been unable to produce for quite

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a long time a celebrated thinker like Abu

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Hassan al Ashari or Abu Hamid Al Ghazali.

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And

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the constant engagement of the then scholars with

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polemics and logical disputation,

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might have made them

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bright and quick witted,

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which is true because studying, Ilul Kalam is

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not easy and it's not for the Daul.

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But it certainly extinguished the warmth of their

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hearts, and dimmed the light of faith and

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conviction.

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The dialecticians had undoubtedly been successful in silencing

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their opponents by their superior syllogism, but were

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unable to provide an unflinching conviction which could

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replace skepticism by faith, and disquietude by peace

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of mind.

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I think this may be somewhat of an

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exaggeration to be honest with you, but

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there are definitely exceptions to this rule.

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But there were a lot of people also

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who were very

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clever

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in their ability to kinda like absorb

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and maybe imbalanced in other parts of their

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faith. But to say that the, you know,

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that the the, you know, the generations did

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not produce a mind like that, I think

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maybe somewhat of an exaggeration and perhaps some

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problem with the translation as well.

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As a matter of fact, Wallana continues,

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the logical reasoning employed by the dialecticians had

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given a rise to numerous questions, which could

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never be adequately met by, scholastics.

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Also,

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the dialectics had no place for intuition, which

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is an inevitable source,

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for acquisition of knowledge for it. Either did

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not recognize any inner sense beyond the normal

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senses of perception,

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or treated it with contempt.

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Obviously, therefore, facts pertaining to mysteries of mute

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reality and ecstasy were being contended simply because

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these were beyond the ken of senses.

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The scholars had developed a predisposition for rejecting

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or at least being skeptical about everything which

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could not be proved through rational arguments.

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Umma having thus been seized by so called

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rationalism was losing that fervor of

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faith which had

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been bequeathed to it by the apostles and

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elect of God,

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alayhi musatuh as salam

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which constituted a fountain head of its strength,

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for all time to come. And this is

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definitely true that there were a band of

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people from the

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rationalist,

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which included the Muartazilah and perhaps the straying

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of certain other minds that weren't openly

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against the way of but, were seduced by

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it to

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not

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embrace,

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the idea of of

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and to try to constantly,

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to try to constantly verify the contents of

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Wahi through rationality.

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Look, we accept Wahi through rational rationality as

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being correct

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because rationality means that Allah exists.

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It teaches us that Allah exists and that

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he's 1 and that he sends prophets and

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that the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa sallam

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is indeed one of them. These are all

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rationally proven

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according to the talit of the

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But then afterward once you believe that the

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prophet is sent by Allah to try to

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rationally verify everything that's in the Quran is

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a type of silliness.

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Why? Because the whole function of, Wahia is

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to what to teach you teach mankind that

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which he knew not.

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And if we were able to verify it

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in the 1st place, there would have been

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no need for the revelation in the 1st

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place, which is, something that all of us

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know that the revelation was needed. If it

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wasn't sent, People would still be, worshiping Lot

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and Uz and Herbal and bearing their daughters

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alive and doing all sorts of other debauchery

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nonsense that, they were doing in Jahiliya and

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that they're trying to do again as they

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move away from Wahi.

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So,

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Milana continues philosophical discourses and dialectical argumentation

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had turned the people into

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academicians

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as dry as dust, lacking the warmth of

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feeling and certitude of knowledge, which is born

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out of divine intuition.

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They were nevertheless a few sublimated souls, pure

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of heart,

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and beatified by divine grace. But the overwhelming

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majority of the doctors of faith,

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and the laity had become votaries of the

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intellect fond of beautiful and high sounding phraseology,

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but completely oblivious,

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to the radiance of spirit and the love

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of God.

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Again, this is something hard for people to,

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to think of, but there was a time

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when you would have brilliant judges

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and brilliant,

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doctors,

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of the law and of creed,

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who really were, like, corrupt people in their,

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in their, personal conduct. And if you read

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the the books of history, you'll see,

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you'll see that people like that did exist.

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Abu Fazil Faizi,

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the,

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courtier of Akbar who basically convinced him that

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he was god and to start his own

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religion is one of those types of people.

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He used to boast that he could write

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an entire tafsir or the Quran

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incomplete without using a letter,

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that had a dot in it. So no,

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no jim, no

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etcetera,

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which is a very daunting task. And he

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did. He wrote it in 4 volumes.

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That's how learned he was in the knowledge

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of the sharia,

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and he was still a complete

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in a. He convinced the,

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the ruler of his age to go astray

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more or less for his own

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financial ingratiation.

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And it took someone like the Mujaddid Alfani,

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Sheikh Ahmed Sarhandi, the

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great of the Ummah, and the great of

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the tariqa,

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in order to counteract the facade that such

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a man had had had reaped,

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and that also did exist.

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This does not mean that

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is evil.

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Molana, continues. He said the world of Islam

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needed at the time a celebrated spiritual guide

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who was both a man of learning and

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possessed a a restless soul. He had to

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have mastered the religious and temporal sciences so

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that he could break the snares of the

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intellect and be himself illuminated in order to

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light the flames of ardent faith in the

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hearts of the people. He had to build

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up a new system of scholasticism,

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which could impart a sense of satisfaction and

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blessed conviction instead of seeking to confute its

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opponents by argumentation and polemics.

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The man of the hour was Jalaluddin Rumi,

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born in 604 after Hijra,

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whose messnavi challenged intellectual sophistry

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and demolished the spell of words, ideas, and

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thoughts held dear by the dialecticians.

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Jalaluddin Rumi,

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laid the foundation of a new scholasticism so

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badly needed by the world of Islam at

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the moment.

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And so,

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inshaAllah we'll read

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more about Mawlana's

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background. The next subheading is Rumi and his

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ancestors, starts the biographical

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information about him. Insha'Allah for tomorrow we'll start

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that tomorrow. But I think it's important to

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recognize

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that the

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the lead up of Moana Abu Hasan Ali

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Nadeau is,

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chapter about Moana Rumi. It seems very similar

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to almost like a,

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madamma and, a censure of.

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But,

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suffice to say,

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the lead up is to what is pointing

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toward Moana Rumi. So it's not going in

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that same

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direction. So try to appreciate that. Try to

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appreciate that,

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Moana is trying Moana is trying to,

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lead up to what to the idea that

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if you can learn those most difficult sciences

00:31:03 --> 00:31:04

that are impressive and that will

00:31:05 --> 00:31:07

let you, you know, narrative paradigm

00:31:07 --> 00:31:10

ethos, zeitgeist your way into sounding smart,

00:31:10 --> 00:31:11

in front of everybody.

00:31:12 --> 00:31:15

And, you know, you can get up on

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stage and make a sort of, like, intellectual

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masturbatory show of how smart you are.

00:31:20 --> 00:31:22

But you don't have, iman inside of your

00:31:22 --> 00:31:24

heart, and you don't live, the life,

00:31:25 --> 00:31:26

and you don't,

00:31:26 --> 00:31:29

have the light inside of your heart to

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the point where,

00:31:30 --> 00:31:32

you know, you experience the joy that that

00:31:32 --> 00:31:35

iman, the like the prophet said, the the

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joyousness that the iman is supposed to bring

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you,

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then, that knowledge has been wasted. And if

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you have the, the knowledge is useful. It

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it really is, and it serves a good

00:31:45 --> 00:31:46

purpose.

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And, if the point of Moana's

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is to just bash,

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then,

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I think he would

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have wrote the chapter, about someone other than

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Moana Rumi,

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and Allah Allah knows best.

00:32:00 --> 00:32:00

Allah

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give us, all,

00:32:04 --> 00:32:06

Allah give us all knowledge and

00:32:06 --> 00:32:09

action. Allah give us both the formal discourse

00:32:09 --> 00:32:10

and understandings,

00:32:11 --> 00:32:13

the best of what rationality and empiricism

00:32:14 --> 00:32:16

have to teach a human being about, about

00:32:16 --> 00:32:18

existence and about the world around them. And

00:32:18 --> 00:32:21

then afterward, beautify it with the light, of

00:32:21 --> 00:32:22

iman and a faith and of

00:32:23 --> 00:32:24

to worship Allah as if we see him

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and if we don't to know that at

00:32:25 --> 00:32:27

least he sees us.

00:32:27 --> 00:32:28

Allah

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give all the stuff

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say I mean it's a month of Ramadan.

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It's a good time to it's a good

00:32:33 --> 00:32:34

time to ask for big things,

00:32:35 --> 00:32:36

because this is the time that Allah,

00:32:37 --> 00:32:37

you know,

00:32:38 --> 00:32:40

he he made these days because he wanted

00:32:40 --> 00:32:42

to give. So ask,

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while giving is is is is good. All

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of us

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