Hidden Theft The ‘Muslim Men’ Who Steal From Their Sisters

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Smilla Rahmanir Rahim in Alhamdulillah wa Salatu was Salam ala Rasulillah Assalamu alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh brothers and sisters and friends. Welcome to this video. And before I introduce our beloved Mashgiach, and our esteemed guests, I have something to say, which I think is very important. I believe my dear brothers and sisters, it's our responsibility as speakers and teachers, to command them out off to command the good and to forbid the Moncada to forbid the evil and this is a clear divine command in the Quran. And this is more important for social evils are widespread, but unaddressed. And since around last summer, he has come to my attention that there is

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a social evil, a ungodly pandemic of so called practicing Muslim men from the Indo Pak community from all social classes, educated and uneducated, who kind of steal from the sisters. These men are so worried sometimes, like all men and brothers and sisters were so worried about soloing, the water use during evolution during our Ramadan fasts. But some of these men are not, you know, they're not very cautious with regards to swallowing the sisters inheritance. So this is what we're going to be talking about. And I believe that, frankly speaking these people disobey Allah, and they do not give their sisters or their daughters their rights to inheritance, and in many cases, socially exclude

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and financially burden their own flesh and blood. In my view, I think this is not befitting of prophetic masculinity. It's actually unmanly. You could call it you could call it cowardly. And it's extremely disobedient. And it's important to know that I will not speak about this if I was unsure if it's a widespread issue or not, because I did a bit of research, I spoke to the Messiah in the UK and in Pakistan. And unfortunately, this injustice prevails. And what's worse, it's not really done out of ignorance. They know it's wrong. It's done out of adopting non Islamic practices. And it's so sad that our beloved brothers and uncles are engaged in this. And it's the case that many brothers

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deny their daughters their right to inheritance and give everything to their son. Sometimes, their sons, after the passing of their father do not really care about Allah's commands and practically reject His commands, because they do not they do not do anything to rectify the situation. And it's important to know my dear brothers and sisters that the Quran itself talks about inheritance in various places. For example, in Surah, Al Baqarah, chapter two verse one at 22. In the fourth chapter of the Quran was 14. And we know there are a number of legal moral principles in determining the allocation of inheritance from an all solely point of view from a legal reasoning point of view.

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There are two main principles, the generational position of the heirs and the financial burden and social obligation of the person. And we know there are four scenarios in which a female inherit inherits half of a male there are around 11 scenarios where female inherits the same share as a male. And there are 16 scenarios where a female inherits more than a male. And this is very important to note because Islam has a very kind of decode legal tradition with regards to this.

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And the final point before I introduce our beloved Messiah is that this injustice like other injustices can cause trials and corruption in the land and this is well established in our religion. For example, Allah says in chapter 13, verse 11, Allah will not change the situation of a pupil into the change what's within themselves. Even cathedra basically argues, the classical scholar, the exegesis of the Quran, he argues that we will not go into a bad state. So if we're in a good state, as a society, we won't go into a bad situation unless there's something bad happening within. And these in unjust practices are evil, the wrong the disobedience. And this could lead to our

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corruption as a community. Even as Josie says I'm very similar concerning this verse. He basically articulates the maxim if you want your situation to get better put effort in making your actions better. And a significant scholarly point is from Sheikh Mohammed Abu zafra. He mentioned something quite strong, he says, Because Muslims across the world have ignored the teachings of the Quran, and have ended up fighting, even killing each other than Allah Himself has punished Muslim societies by humiliation. And he continues and he says that Muslims are engaged in Injustice amongst themselves, which includes the injustice of not giving the right inheritance to your sisters or to your

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daughters, right? Because there's injustice amongst ourselves then Allah has brought harm onto the Muslims as a punishment for the deeds. So he's quite emphatic here. He says that the humiliation Muslim societies face is due to Muslims humiliating themselves, so when an uncle or brother is being unjust, he has to

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To stand to his sisters, he has to understand that he could be responsible or partly responsible for what's happening all around the world.

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And we also know the famous verse in the Quran Chapter 30, verse 41, corruption has spread on land and sea as a result of what people's hands have done so that Allah may cause them to taste the consequences of some of the deeds, and perhaps they might return to the right path. The famous classical scholar had been assured he emphasizes that they're their own actions here is general referring to every and all type of evil actions. So any actions that we do, if it's evil, it can cause corruption on the land and the sea. And by the way, I don't want to come across and we all don't want to come across as if, you know, there's some kind of you know, sense of righteousness

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here. We're pointing the finger because I have my sins as well. And, you know, I want people to understand that this podcast should be framed from the point of view of Yes, commanding the good and forbidding the evil, but also trying to optimize each other right, I'll move you know, murottal movement, the believers a movement of the believer, if I see a blemish in the mirror, I'm not going to wipe the mirror, I'm going to wipe myself right. So see this as helping myself to by hoping that people who are listening so we could change this situation, which is a situation of injustice, right? So with us today, we have our beloved Messiah, we have Dr. Chef Abdul Rahman ibn Yusuf

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mingara. He is a British Muslim scholar educated in both the Islamic and Western traditions he memorized the Quran by heart and graduated graduated from the auto loans seminary burry in the UK, and later earned a specialized license to issue fatawa, which is legal responses. He earned his BA from the University of Johannesburg and completed his MA and PhD in Islamic Studies from the School of Oriental and African Studies, which is in London. Shut up. The man has a unique experience of serving as an imam in Muslim communities on both sides of the Atlantic, eight years in Southern California and over five in the great city of London, and he has continued his work as an

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international speaker and lecturer. And he has enabled him to address and often provide pertinent advice on current challenges that Muslims face in the West. He is the founder of white thread Institute, a postgrad Institute for Islamic scholars. He's an avid traveler and continues to teach Hadith and work on scholarly publications through white thread press. And many of his lectures are available on zamzam. academy.com and his courses through Raian. Institute. I'm going to put the links in the description below white thread, press.com zamzam academy.com and rayon institute.com And we also have our beloved chef chef ESL I'll Hanafi he graduated graduated from the Islamic

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Institute of Jewsbury in 2011, holds a BA in philosophy and psychological studies and MA in philosophy. Chair completed his hips and Alinea program at the Islamic Institute of Jewsbury over the period of 10 years, graduating in 2011. Thereafter attracted his BA Honours in philosophy and psychological studies and then went on to complete his MA in Philosophy at the University of Warwick. Currently, the Sheikh is pursuing his PhD in philosophical Theology at the University of Birmingham, alongside his other duties as the full time imam of Masjid Tauheed Islam in Ellsbury, he also teaches that various other Institute's including a suffer Institute so that's the kind of

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relatively lengthy introduction. May Allah bless every single one of you does actually have a coming on board and my beloved Messiah.

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So we start with the first question. We start with the first question with our beloved Mufti. And the first question to move the other man is. So you've heard the kind of introduction that I thought was an important introduction to make. Now, why is this happening amongst our indo Pak communities? And especially why is it happening amongst the practicing aspects of our communities?

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You're on mute, you just have to unmute yourself, no problem.

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So we're gonna have to law 100 Law salatu salam ala Sayyidina Muhammad wa ala alihi wa sahbihi. Me as you were in my bed. So he does like a lot of absolute honor to be here and to be talking about this. Very, very important. I'm glad you've picked up on this and you're covering it. I have spoken about it a few times. But the more we speak about this, the better. And why is this happening? I think and I don't know, Monastir. If you know more about this, though, is this from a Hindu custom. Is this from a Hindu heritage that this has come? I don't know if it's from that kind of heritage. Is it from a Hindu heritage? Would you know that?

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I do know is purpose of the JD or before the premises of life. It is.

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Okay. Right. Well, I mean, yeah, so I mean, maybe it's just continued from that time then. But, but yeah, it was across the board and

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You know, there's some of the big, some of the big, you can say speakers of Pakistan, they have definitely covered it. I remember Malati, Jamil speaking about it a few times, right, and he is probably the most popular audio speaker out there. So it does get covered. And I have seen a change, like, you know, at least around, you know, around here, I have definitely seen a change where things have changed, for example. Well, the other reason, I guess, I mean, I guess we're going to talk about those kinds of things in detail. But I think the other reason of why it continues, despite the fact that people may know about it, that's probably just based on

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I don't know, it's, I find it hard to believe that religious people would do that. I think there might be some

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weird psychological thing going there, there's a selfishness, that is not allowing it, and it's just kind of probably, you know, masking their religious consciousness that it should be given or a lot of people what they do is they recently I dealt with a case where, before the death, the Father had given two flips over to,

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to to the daughters. And then after that, the will does not include them in, in any property. So I told him, Look, this is wrong. If he gave them that's great, you know, but they still get a share. Because once you die, then it's whatever the Quran says it's no longer yours. So yeah, there's probably selfishness. There's probably just following blind falling culture. A lot of people don't know a lot of people don't know, still, but then there are some people who do know, and they still choose not to do it. And that's just probably pure selfishness. God knows.

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Chef. Any comments on this point? Yeah. So I'm with this, in principle where he has said, I agree, there is some awareness, but I think, geographically speaking, the issue, and certainly, the KPK and the Pashtun areas, even certain Punjab areas be still is still really bad. I mean, I'm talking about family members, I do know and who are religious, and it's almost an insult for the doctor to suggest

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for for their own, for their own is their own share. And there is a stigma.

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The stigma around this topic is almost impermissible for our daughter to ask. I mean, I've got people in Aylesbury, from the area of Pakistan coming to me and saying, Look, Milena,

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we've asked our sister, they don't want it, they don't need it.

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So there's also this fear that if the women asked for the share, they will get boycotted. I know family members, okay, that might be expensive, but I know people who are religious who are paying five times salah, and they've said that if my daughter takes the share

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me and then we've got nothing, and I don't want them to come to my janazah. And we have no relation. We have no relation. And this is in the 21st century. 2020.

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So I think in England, yes, there is awareness mateesah.

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I think the community it, we don't have too much of it. I think you guys are 4050 years ahead of us.

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In terms of I would agree on that thing. The good righties have moved on? Yeah. I think amongst the kind of, you know, Pakistani community, I remember I raised this in a surfer Institute just a few months ago, a few weeks ago when I was delivering something there. And it was almost a collective agreement that this pandemic still exists amongst the practicing circles in the UK. And then when I went to Pakistan, you know, the scholars and the influentials, they echoed those sentiments as well. And there was, I think, a poll that was done this relatively recently, that I think it was around, over 90% of women don't really get any type of, you know, significant inheritance. I don't know if

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that's correct or not, but that echoes something that is really, really severe. And this is the command of Allah subhanho wa taala. You know, we go and we want to do dalla, we go to Tbilisi, or we go and try to show the deen and we want to obey the commands of Allah and be submitted to His will. But when it comes to this issue, that we've adopted some kind of like, you know, maybe Hindu or, you know, gehele practice that is not in line with the Quran and the Sunnah. So, yeah, maybe it might not be in the Gujarati community, but you know, I'm also occurring, Chef, Al Hanafi is a position that it's, it's, it's like a pandemic is something that we need to talk about even more.

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Okay, good. So, so the other question I have from this perspective, is, you have mentioned chef, that, you know, our preachers and scholars in the Indo Pak community have spoken about this, but it seems to me because it's such a

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it's an important issue, and it's still very widespread. What more do you think the do art and the preachers and the scholars should do to try and address this

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I think just just keep speaking about it, there's a few issues like this, they really need to be spoken about this is one of them.

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Another one of them is the three divorces.

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Right? The three divorces, in fact, in Muslim countries, if they can actually make a law, that anybody any I mean, a lot of people are gonna hate me for this. But if anybody, they can make a law that anybody who's seen as depriving their sisters, like it needs to be officially, if the sisters don't want it, then there's a proper way for that to happen, then the sisters need to literally go and with everybody and sit and sign a form or something like that, or there's a penalty. If this is found out later, there's a reporting system otherwise, we're going to struggle to probably just keep,

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just keep raising awareness, we need to keep raising awareness. And I think in England and in Western countries, you will change because feminism has this is maybe a positive aspect of feminism, if you want to call it that. Right. I'll leave that to you to, you know, to decide. I'm not an expert on feminism. But

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just to give you that the other one is the three divorces in one. Right, the three divorces at one time, there is a country that has

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that has that will penalize anybody who gets three divorces

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together for a 10 year prison sentence. Whoa. Right. And I was told by one of the movies that it is definitely decreased the three divorce instances. Right? Well, I don't know. Sometimes you probably just need to bring in the law man.

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Well, not sure. So what you're saying here, we should have some legal ramifications from a kind of modern nation state. And I don't want to impose that in England, because I mean, there's just too many. There's just I don't know, you know, this could be hijacked. And okay, so you're saying more should be done. Now. You said the feminism thing. I have to clarify that as well, because it's a very contentious issue issue at the moment. Obviously, we totally reject any ism that is alien to the Kitab in the Sunnah. We believe Islam, and the prophetic model has all the solutions, but I want to just build on what you've just said. Many of these brothers fight feminism, but it's ironic that

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what they're doing is actually giving the feminist and excuse.

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They're actually providing the fuel to that fire of feminism, right, which we reject and we think is incoherent. And we believe following a song, in its true sense is going to solve all of these problems, but they're not doing us any doing us a favor, right? They're providing more fuel to that fire. So with regards to that, Chef Yassa what would you say, you know, for example, yourself, you're an imam of a low commission, and Ellsbury you know, what do you think people like you and other do art and preachers and scholars? What do you think they should be doing? You know, add something may be different and obviously, that, speaking about it is very important, but what else

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should be done? Do you think? Yes, so speaking, but I just want to elaborate on what Mufti Saab has said regarding speaking. I think education of Biafra

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or the lack thereof, is a sign of the final hour.

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Speaking about inheritance, the education of inheritance the aim of Mira this is something that is lacking even on a seminary level. I mean, we study maybe a small treatise in madressa of elemental FARA it, but the emphasis on the science and the emphasis of this education is not being given even on an education, institutional level. He reminded the Hadith the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam when he said to Abu Huraira Yeah, Abba Herrera, the Honorable photo that seek the knowledge of inhabitants for it, and not just learn what I LIMU and teach people why for inadmissible it is a half of knowledge and close the piano What were you inside and be forgotten? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa

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to stay in the end does the Roman Almighty Oh Kamau Bell said Allah Almighty Salam, it will be the first thing that will be taken and extracted from my ummah, the great Imam Sophia Marina Rahim. Allah said the reason is half of knowledge because most people, if not all people, that are involved in mirror test and weld is something we are all involved. So I think education, not just awareness, maybe

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in a Joomla ban, but I think starting from even mucked up our modalities, our institution, our local mosque, going into the seminaries, Islamic seminaries having courses on this, the to add maybe even having more podcasts on this like we were having.

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And yes, Joomla for example, I spoke about this a couple of years ago and my congregation they didn't like it because half of them they say you know women don't deserve this, you know, so of all deserve this And subhanAllah

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If we look at the stories of the pious self and Mufti Musa will know better that how scrupulous they were in this matter. So there was one person who was in last throes of death, he died. And there was a lantern that was burnt, being burnt by oil. So he stopped that he extinguished the fire. Somebody said no, he just died we need the light. So we can see. He said not until this point, this oil that was burning the Langton it was hit. But as soon as he's passed away, now, this oil belongs to all of the words in inheritance, we have to ask permission from each and every single one of them. And then we can do this. So what people need to understand this is not about the Buddha's giving their share.

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You know, I know this is the Quran mentioned Surah Nisa, verse 11. Sorry about a min Allah this is an obligation that is fixed by Allah. That's it.

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But it is costly, all we know. And subhanAllah scholars say on this vessel in verse 11, you'll see common Loafie or radical May Allah Subhana Allah instructs you to guiding the earth instructs the parents, that this verse is evidence that Allah is more merciful and he has more love for the children and the parents. Because Allah is instructing the parents don't forget your children, especially the curls and the daughters regarding inherited, we have to tell people that this is not

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you know, you should do it no is done. It is done by Allah and if you take a single cent of penny from those girls or those women or those sisters, you will be punished and I just want to remind Hadith reported by Imam Bukhari and Muslim the Prophet and this happens a lot in especially Pakistan, because our forefathers they have a lot of land there. And the land is also part of the Mirai and inheritance. The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, and I quote The hadith paraphrase the Hadith

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manikato shibaura middle of the Dolman Toba Hello, yo yo mil pm Ataman stebbing Aldine Okoma constant Allahu alayhi. Salam, the Pantheon is Salatu was Salam said and this is a very severe warning, especially to those men who unjustly take land from their women, from the sisters. If anyone takes a span of land unjustly a span one Spanish Shiva and justly, on the Day of Judgment, Allah will strangle him with it from seven Earths to one.

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So this is a severe matter is not just be a matter. And they should be told openly that this is a punishment. So if you're willing to take this punishment, then you carry on what you're doing. So like, although many of the brothers know, it's wrong, what they're doing. But I think your strategy is a very good one. Because when we make it, you know, we put it as part of the collective conscious of our communities. Because when you learn the details about something, it makes you more conscious about it as well. So if we were to know the details of the Afghan behind inheritance, and it becomes like a social norm, then it's less likely for people for their selfishness as the check said for it

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to override the commands of Allah subhanho wa taala. Okay, good. So I have two more questions.

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What would you say?

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With regards to the advice that you would have to the brothers who have sons and daughters and they're writing their wills? What What kind of practical advice would you have for someone listening? They realize now this is a wrong cultural practice. What would be your main key piece of advice for those brothers or uncle's who are writing their wills with regards to their sons or daughters and their offspring? Yeah, so the one the one good thing is that mashallah is the one good thing is that, mashallah, there's a renewed awareness now about writing wills, and there's lots of right will writing facilities and mashallah some of the big Muslim corporations are actually getting

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on board to,

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to get in collaborate with when writing and so on and provide this service. So alhamdulillah, that's good. So there are certain standard things right, the in a will, one is obviously the actual shares people are going to get. So usually a lot of these people, they have a Muslim scholar on board or something like that, to help people determine who exactly gets what they want. And I know at least on one particular will writing firm, that if somebody does want to go against the Islamic on, they may come actually sign a waiver of some sort of that, look, you know, we're not really on with this with you. But if you want to do it, then you need to sign this waiver that we've explained this to

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you, and so on. So I think all of that is raising and jumping back to the previous question. I think when there becomes a more common knowledge, then people can actually start making each other feel guilty about it. Right. And so did you do this like Alhamdulillah we've done this this time, as your family doing this, when it becomes a norm insha Allah then other people because like individualities, for example, I think mostly it is a norm. It'd be kind of weird to not do it or to deprive them knowingly, at least right? I'm not saying that's across the board. No, not every Gujrati it's like, but but in general, in the cultures where it has changed, it's probably changed

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because the Imams are constantly talking about it whenever somebody another thing is that you know, what you should do is whenever somebody dies in his agenda,

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other people should talk about it then.

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Because what I noticed is that I've started talking about the divorce issue of how to divorce properly, I've actually started talking about it in Nikka. gatherings. I know people find that really strange that way you talking about divorce in Nicaragua, because it's inevitable, it's happening. So at least you know how to do it. Well, if you are going to do it. And this is the time you actually get people who won't even come to a bind in a mosque. Right this is the problem is that a lot of people, they don't listen to any updates of their religion, their religion is only limited to what they've grown up with. Because they're not listening. They're not, they're not listening to

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talks. Even in Juma they literally come just before the prayer or the Arabic, sometimes, right. So they're not getting, they're not getting that. So I find that in Nikka, gatherings, every everybody comes even liberal people, even non practicing people come right. Likewise, in janazah, as you get a lot of people, I think that's probably an opportune time to talk about it. That's a very good piece of advice is ocular hair. So I'll ask you the final question because you have to leave soon. And then Chef jasola Hanafy can address the two questions that we've just asked you. So this is very similar. So what would your advice be to the brothers who have been mis allocated their shares of

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inheritance? So the father has passed away? He didn't allocate it according to the Sharia according to the commands of Allah, now the brothers have taken, like, all the share in weakness. Now, what advice would you give to them? And then a lot of them actually, you know, that they should give to the sisters. But sometimes you hear the excuse, Oh, Dad wanted it this way. And I'm thinking, you know, you know, I will I will do is, well, fine. Maybe you could give a father an excuse of ignorance, say that's the case. But why would we want his grave to be constricted? Or for him to be eligible for, you know, divine punishment? Let's now reallocate it, according to the Sharia, and

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give us sisters, what they their rights? Yeah, it's not as if it's their money. It's actually the sisters money, we're just giving them what they do. So what advice strong advice would you give to these brothers who now have the opportunity to reallocate the shares? So this actually happens often, right, we get cases where the father has left an unfair will. I mean, it seems fair on a social level, because he's done X, Y, and Zed and so on, but it's totally against the Quran. So what we tell them is remind them of the verse, the verse in what Allah subhanaw taala said, fall in half, I mean, moves in, Jonathan ithmb, and fasula have been on for the family, right? That if anybody

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fears that there's going to be some injustice done by the person who's died and who's leaving the wealth, then he makes a change and reforms that then there's no sin for doing it. In fact, you shouldn't do that you should not allow the wrong to happen. Because what you're doing essentially, is that you're using somebody else's money, right? You all that time your children are going to be using that, and so on, I mean, and then in the Hereafter, it's even worse, right? So in the world, you are literally taking somebody else's, you are removing the baraka, your own, that you're removing any blessing from your money is going to pollute the rest of your money, get rid of it

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quickly, right, there is somebody who wants it. Now there are cases where we have a say three brothers or four brothers, right, and maybe two sisters, or three sisters, or maybe even four sisters, the brothers of all the some of them are very tough on this issue. There's one brother, he's feeling very vulnerable. He's feeling guilty, he wants to give up. But he's scared that others won't play ball. And because of that, he's going to mess it up for everybody. What I would probably advise that brother is that look, secretly, you know, if it's going to cause a big fitna for you to actually give what you've already received, you know, your share of to the Sisters of what they do,

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give it secretly tell them look, I want to be clear. So let me give this to you. So do your part, even if your family is not willing to do their part, do your part and get rid of this otherwise, at least?

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Yeah, at least Liva will see or at least leave a bequest that before you you know that when you die, or at least their family gets that that might be too late, though, because that's going to make it more complicated. Because your sister may have already died. And there's going to be children and so on and so forth. It gets complicated, so try to try to sort it out sooner than later. Exactly. Here, Chef, this is a very practical, great advice. May Allah bless you and for giving us your time. I know you have to leave the next few minutes or so. So check. Yasser, any thoughts on these previous two questions? Anything to add? I don't think I can add much to that. But what I would say one thing

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that comes to mind is as soon as the disease

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just do the distribution and don't let it carry on. Because what happens is a lot of the brothers and sisters, they their wealth is so they're living together. For example, they've been living with their parents. They've had certain properties or sharing

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It's like mush. The Rockies is shared amongst them. And they leave it in that state for long. So then after a few years when the topic comes up of a dividing or distributing, then it's even more difficult because some people might have passed away. So I think doing practically disputing where everybody takes their a share. In deposition, I think that should be done as soon as the deceased is buried. And although those matters are being arranged, sockless, so move the amendment gara any final comments or piece of advice before you, you leave?

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I think I'm being idealistic, but hopefully, that there's just a few things that everybody should learn about. So you don't need to know your laws of zakat until you actually have some money technically, or until you're not doing business and so on. However, mashallah, we live in a time of prosperity, right? So if there is money being left behind, that means you're you know, you're prosperous. So it's actually obligatory on you to learn the laws of Zakat, and thus the laws of inheritance as well. So I think we could do with more classes on inheritance of the right, and if not on exactly, you know, the mathematical aspect of it, which can be a bit confusing, then at least

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on the common mistakes in the houses. I've done a series of lectures on that topic. And I did it about two years ago, during the pandemic. And since then, Alhamdulillah, I've had multiple people who come and sought out their inheritance, like it's, it does help, you know, for scholars to talk about this, it definitely helps. I spoke about probably 10 issues that are common mistakes in dividing inheritance. I don't know if I give enough importance to this one because I guess I was looking at it from the people I was dealing with, where there wasn't such a big issue, but I think, you know, shake your seat if you can, and others and this podcast and we can just encourage

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everybody maybe we can even get a hotel already. And they aren't ready and just you know, like we do for us in Luxor issues and Palestine issues and flood and it's just it's just spread a ready made by on ready made discussion, people can just inshallah do that.

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Does I have May Allah bless you for your time, and I know you, it's a very busy day for you, and you give us your time, may Allah bless you, and increase you and preserve you and grant you and your family the best in both worlds. Just share for your time. I mean, we are going to talk a lot here really for bringing this up and inshallah many more issues as well. We can deal with

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make this go very, very well and successful so.

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So chef, final few minutes with me and you Hamdulillah. Now in the beginning, I framed it from the point of view of kind of seeing the kind of

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communal communitarian or global implications of this type of injustice, because, you know, whether we like it or not, you know, my private sins, my public sins, our collective sins, these are a barrier to our success. Obviously, you know, who the OMA is never going to be perfect, but we should be in a process of turning back to Allah subhanho wa taala. Allah says in the Quran, oh, you believe is turned back to Allah, Jimmy and collectively in order for you to be successful. So that means you're turning back from something right. So you're going to be in a state of sin, but there should be this kind of almost Collective is maybe a too much big word to use, but a cause a collective

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turning back to Allah, and these type of injustices can can actually cause corruption in the land. This is very severe. And people need to realize that, you know, some of these brothers are like pro Palestinian advocate advocates, or, you know, they're against feminism or they're against liberalism, or, you know, they want justice in the world they want, you know, Sharia or they want you know, whatever it is these things are is the food agency. So Valhalla exactly is that

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is that is a food Ha, ha, ha, HMCS, HFA? Whatever. Yeah, no, these are, these are serious issues. So, people, what would you have to say? And just to unpack this a little bit further for us, what would you have to say about the significance of continuing in this injustice, and this almost, it's a practical rejection of the divine command, meaning you're not following, right, this disobedience what, you know, give us a little bit more shallow.

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I think, you know, if we,

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as artists, students of knowledge, if we began collectively, from our own social platform, if we put out the awareness that this is not just, it is a rejection of the divine command, but it's robbery is theft, is daylight robbery. These people are thieves. And one thing is people do worry about their you know, Persona and their perception and there is an honor and in our society or in our locality if we make

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a wish. We make it famous that

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person or brother, or people who are doing this they actually the thieves that are robbing daylight robbery is nothing less than that is robbery. It's not, she doesn't deserve it. I don't want to give my share to her. No, they're stealing from their own system is worse type of theft, theft, because they're stealing from their own blood

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is their property. And we need to start off the verse that you mentioned, the beginning was done in Allahu Allah, you know, maybe a common Hatha Yoga, you know, might be unforeseen, that Allah does not change the state of people until they change themselves. So the Allah mentioned that the state of the society is based on the individuals enforce. So the word Oh, here, it denotes communal own society. And the word anfis denotes individual. So we have to start off with some message those people that who are listening, and who received this message, we all have to introspect and think in our own lives, I have to think in my own life and my relatives and my friends, wherever we have

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reached, yeah, we touch in the world, let's be honest, we can't change the world. We can maybe change the country, even locality. But what we can do is start with our own family. And we all have to realize that every single one of us, we're going to be buried alone, we will stand before Allah alone. We have to give an account of our karma alone and we don't want on the Day of Judgment. Where

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you know Allah, Allah can forgive the sins that are related to her kukula at the rights of Allah, but this this is her Coco Abba, these are rights of people, and it will not be forgiven. It can't be forgiven until they forgive and let's be very clear. On that day, even your mother and father will not be willing to give you a good deed. Nevermind your sister who you've unjustly treated. And the Hadith the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam comes to mind when he asked us to harbor the who is mirthless, who is a poor person. So the Sahaba said, a poor person is a person who doesn't have any determined denounce gold coins and silver coins, meaning he doesn't have any money, or assets

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properly salat wa salam said, No, he's not a purpose. And a true muffle is a true poor person, according to the definition of our al Habib Salallahu Alaihe Salam is that person who on the day of judgment will come in the pain of resurrection with the deeds equivalent to mountains, but he's transgressed a person, he's doing well on them, he saw them, he slandered them he's taken their property unjustly taken their wealth, volume and etc. And they will come and they will demand for their rights. They are Allah this person is in this this this this tool is on the date of in this world. So ALLAH SubhanA wa Taala will say, okay, cake is good deeds.

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So after his good deeds are finished, the queue is still waiting, they're still alive,

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who are demanding for their rights. So Allah will say, he doesn't have any good deeds that what you do is you give him your bad deeds, your say.

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So the person who came to the pain of Hashem resurrection with a mountain of good deeds, now he will be leaving with a mountain of sins, and you'll be thrown in the fire of Jahannam that I didn't mentioned. I'll come across and allow and isn't. So this is a great matter if it was only if there was no resurrection if there was no grave. If there was no hereafter then people can do what they want with the wealth of their sisters and their family. But the reality is we as Muslims, our Eman isn't that accurate. We believe in hisab. We believe accountability, we believe that there will be questioning in the grave. And this is a grave matter. And like the Hadith accorded the severe

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punishment for even taking a small amount of wealth unjustly from your relatives, especially your sister, etc. And then taking the entire inheritance which is a FurReal Amina Allah, which has been obligated by Allah, Allah has given it to them. Allah has given the share to them. And there's one other point I want to mention.

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The look Subhanallah look how.

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Look at the emphasis of Sharia look at the emphasis of the Divine Law. Sometimes you have parents, they say, Oh, well, you know, this son, or this daughter, their relationship with Me hasn't been too good. For example, fine, they've had issues, and the children will have to answer for that. But what the parents do is that in the last throes of death, or near the end, they want to deprive the children from the well. So they do we'll see. Yeah.

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The dual will the all of my well goes to all my welfare, for example, or some charity. Yes. So if the parents even make this will,

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in the final moments of their life, that the entirety of the event should go to charity, the Sharia says no, only 1/3 of the maximum 1/3 The rest will have to go to the children. So from this we can understand the severity of this issue that this is

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is a

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matter that's been ordained by Allah obligated by Allah? And we take this seriously. And, you know, may Allah subhana wa Taala grant us autophagic

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You meet, yes, sorry, does offer her share? Can we all we all have our shortcomings and mistakes and, you know, God forbid that if we were ever to fall into a sin like this, we would want people to wake us up from that spiritual slumber and for us to be awakened to the truth and to rectify the situation as soon as possible. So you know, people need to see this as as a manifestation of brotherly love. Because what's good for the community and good for people and sometimes commanding the good and forbidding the evil is one of the greatest forms of love that you could do to someone anyway, because you're committed to the guidance and the goodness. So, Dr. Hirsch, we're going to

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have you on board again. We'll talk about something else in sha Allah for sure. Does aka for your time or your time is very precious. May Allah bless you in Israel. I'm gonna see you very soon. And that's it. It's the end of of the podcast. Salaam Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh.