Haitham al-Haddad – What This Genocide Taught Me

Haitham al-Haddad
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The speakers discuss the importance of America's support for Muslims and their belief in Islam, as well as the difference between their beliefs and actions. They also touch on the history of the world, including the loss of democracy and the failure of peace and security. The conversation emphasizes the need for strong political presence in the United States and the importance of activating the Muslim community to unite them. They also discuss the political involvement of the "star Killing Theasts" crisis and the political involvement of the "star Killing Theasts" crisis.
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I stopped talking about how Muslims should be

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united and doing this and that.

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America preferred to lose because of the support

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it gave to Israel.

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For me, it's a strategic defeat for the

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West.

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The one who is putting his trust in

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Allah will suffice him.

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Almost one million people have migrated off so

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-called Israel.

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On the other side, we have seen Palestinians

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refusing to leave Gaza despite the ongoing massacres.

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Key for success is sabr, is resilience.

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Don't ever give up.

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We'll get right into it inshallah.

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We all know it's been one year since

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the escalation in the genocide and ethnic cleansing

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of Gaza.

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Obviously, the genocide, the ethnic cleansing has been

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happening for decades.

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But it's been one year since October the

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7th.

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What have we learned over the last year?

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We learned a lot.

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We learned a lot.

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Actually, the last year is in of itself

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a school that taught the whole world, not

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the Muslim Ummah, taught the whole world so

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many important lessons.

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For us as Muslims, we learned a number

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of things.

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We learned that the key for success is

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sabr, is resilience.

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Not the negative sabr, not the passive sabr,

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but the positive sabr, the positive resilience.

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And that's why even from the early generation,

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they used to define sabr as to be

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resilience, or they used to define nasr, victory,

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as to be resilience.

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And in the Quran, Allah made it clear.

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If you show sabr and if you show

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taqwa, then their plot will not harm you

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whatsoever.

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Allah commanded us to show sabr and to

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show sabr in different ways.

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Sabr again is not the negative, is not

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the passive resilience.

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It is resilience while we are firm on

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what you are believing.

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You are trying your best to defend yourself.

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You are trying yourself.

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You are taking also the means to become

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victorious.

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So it's not a passive attitude.

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It is actually an active attitude.

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That's why you translated it as resilient.

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Normally people translate it as patience.

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Yes, patience has a negative connotation.

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Resilience has a more positive connotation.

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So this is the first one.

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The second one is that if you are

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holding on your principles and you are firm

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on your haqq, on your right, that gives

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you motivation to become sabr and that gives

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you motivation to look forward for victory.

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And there is a difference between the genociders

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and the Palestinians who are resisting because we

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have seen clearly within the occupation state that

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almost one million, it is almost confirmed, almost

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one million people have migrated off so-called

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Israel.

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And we have seen on the other side,

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we have seen Palestinians refusing to leave Gaza

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despite the ongoing massacres, the ongoing killing, despite

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the fact that they are hungry under siege,

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they have no shelters.

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And even we have seen in north Gaza

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in the last few days that even their

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tents have been burned and they are burned

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while they are alive.

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So despite all of these atrocities that they

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have been suffering from in the last year,

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despite, of course, the suffering that they have

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been suffering before that for 70 plus years,

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despite that, they are adamant that they want

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to continue living in their own land.

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They don't want to leave their land.

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So there is a difference between a person

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who claims a right and on the other

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side, the person who believes and who is

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rooted in that land.

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So this is another important lesson.

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We also learned a very important lesson that

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when you rely on Allah, Allah gives you

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power to resist and to remain firm.

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And that's why Allah says in the Quran,

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the one who is putting his trust on

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Allah will suffice him.

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Yes.

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And Allah also says, said

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that he will test you.

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Yeah.

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So

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this

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is another important lesson that when Allah is

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with you, you will continue to remain firm.

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And also you will, SubhanAllah, many people expected

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that Gaza will finish in maybe one, two,

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three days.

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Maybe they thought that in the first week

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or maybe three weeks when the airstrikes almost

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demolished almost half of Gaza, then people thought,

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or in the beginning, maybe a destroyed a

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big amount of Gaza and the infrastructure etc.

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People thought that the Gazan people, the Palestinians

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will give up and that's all.

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But they have been resisting for the whole

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year.

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Yeah.

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So definitely their belief in Allah gave them

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this power to resist.

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And their belief in Allah actually inspired the

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whole world to try to explore why they

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are able to resist.

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So this is another important lesson.

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Also, another important lesson, which is now let

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us go to the outside the Palestinians.

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We have learned that this state, so-called

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Israel state, is not a normal state.

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It is a fascist state.

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Maybe it is the most fascist state in

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the whole world, maybe in history.

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Okay.

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Now, even non-Muslims have confirmed this reality.

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And it became, in fact, it became a

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toxic, a toxic state.

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If it is true to call it a

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state, and the people there, the Zionist people

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became really toxic.

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And that's why even so many writers, they

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started to speak against Zionism openly.

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And just some time ago, they wanted to

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equate Zionism with anti-Semitism or anti-Zionism,

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sorry, with anti-Semitism.

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But now this has been destroyed.

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And we have seen the recent case of

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David Miller.

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Okay.

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When he won the case, the appeal court

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said that he, well, to believe that Zionism

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is.

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So being anti-Zionism is a protected belief

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now?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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So the person has the right, okay, to

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criticize Zionism, and it is not equated with

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anti-Semitism.

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Okay.

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I mean, the judgment was published this week.

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It's like a year old, the case, but

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the judgment was published this week, 120 pages.

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And some people, they mentioned something interesting that

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nobody has an excuse now, that this is

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now clearly laid out in black and white

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in law now, that there's no excuse for

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silence.

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Any professors, any lecturers, whatever, they have it

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in black and white there.

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So we'll see what.

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Exactly.

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This is actually a milestone.

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Okay.

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This is a landmark.

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This is a landmark judgment.

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And now this, we wouldn't imagine this would

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happen maybe some time ago.

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Yeah.

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But this is something that we have learned.

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Also, we learned that some people might find

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it odd to say this, but we learned,

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and the whole world have witnessed this Zionist

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state refusing giving the Palestinians any rights.

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Okay.

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Even those who were singing the song of

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the two-state solution, Israel came and the

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Knesset, as you know, just maybe two months

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ago, refused in by consensus, by consensus.

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Maybe there were two or three odd voices,

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maybe the Arab representatives there.

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But let us say by majority that they

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will not allow the existence of a Palestinian

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state next to them.

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Even in Gaza, in the West Bank.

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And that also created a major question.

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And by the way, I would like to

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say to, for example, Pers Morgan and others,

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now tell us, what do you want the

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Palestinians to do?

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No one is now addressing this question.

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They are going right and left, but they

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are not addressing this question.

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What do you want Palestinians to do?

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Yeah.

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And you want Palestinians to recognize the existence

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of Israel, but in the meantime, you don't

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want the Israelis to recognize the existence of

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the Palestinians.

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You want us to confirm the right of

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Israel to exist, but you don't want Israel

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to confirm the right of the Palestinians to

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exist.

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How come?

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How is that fair?

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But that exposure is so important because it

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removes any kind of doubt, any kind of

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doubt of the intention of the so-called

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Israel, of their fascism, of their nature, that

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they are of their toxic nature and that

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they are not a normal existence that can

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exist peacefully with its neighbors.

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OK, so we learned this.

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Also, among the things that we learned, we

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learned that the international community is unable to

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hold Palestinians, to hold the Israelis accountable for

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whatever they have done.

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They are unable, the international community is unable

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to protect the Palestinians.

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The international community is unable to stop the

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crimes of the Israelis.

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We have seen that the ICC and the

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ICJ ruled against the Palestinians, and they used

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very clear statements against the Israeli state, which

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was unprecedented.

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It happened for the first time in history.

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Of course, in the Mediterranean history, because Israel

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did not exist before 1948.

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So despite that, the international community was unable

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and is still unable to stop the crimes

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of the Israelis.

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OK, so this is a very important lesson,

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which leads to another important lesson, which is

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the whole world and the young people in

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particular have seen the failure of the international

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organizations.

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And therefore, many of them started to look

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for alternatives.

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What is the alternative for the international community?

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And also among the things that we have

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learned, that the Western countries led by the

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United States, that their values that they claim

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have been destroyed.

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They have destroyed their values by themselves when

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they stood next to the occupation forces, when

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they continued to arm these genociders, despite the

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ICC, despite the ICJ rulings, they continued doing

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that.

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So now, how on earth, how on earth

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anyone will believe in these Western values?

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They have destroyed that.

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And, you know, the American values at one

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time, people were fond of the American values.

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They were talking about the American values and

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the Americans themselves destroyed those values that they

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have been working to establish for decades.

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In one year, they preferred to side with

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the Israeli occupation rather than to preserve their

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image, to preserve the values that they have

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worked on and for, for a long time.

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Among the values that they have destroyed, the

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so-called democracy, because people have seen that

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the Israelis, these occupation forces, they don't know.

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They claim that they are the only democratic

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country in the Middle East, but their actions

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have proven that they are the fascist country

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in the Middle East.

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This is something that we as Muslims learned

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and also non-Muslims, especially young people, have

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learned as well.

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Among, as I said, we learned so many

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lessons.

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Among the lessons that we have learned is

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that power, power, yeah, power does not protect

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your existence.

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Yes, might, might doesn't make it right.

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Right is might, but it is not the

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opposite.

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So, what do you mean by that, Sheikh?

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Yeah, Israel thinks, Israel thinks by power, they

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can live, yeah, and they can, they can

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build their own state and they can bring

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peace to their people, et cetera.

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But it has been proven that, yes, despite

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the power they have and the technology they

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have, they are unable to provide peace and

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security for their own people.

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The Israelis and the people who live in

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the so-called Israel, yeah, they don't feel

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secure until now.

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After 70 plus years, they thought that they

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have managed to secure a safe place for

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them.

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But in reality, we learned that they have

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failed in that.

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Also, we have learned that, that, subhanAllah, as

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far as Muslims believe in Allah, believe in

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Islam in general, even if they are not

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that practicing people, they still, they still have

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very strong values and they still have very

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strong attachment to Al-Aqsa.

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They strong, they still believe in their right

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to resist the occupation.

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So we have seen the younger children, young

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people who were born in West Bank or

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even in Gaza, but let us talk about

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young people who were born in West Bank

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during the occupation and the occupation thought that

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they are able to normalize with those people.

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And those young people at one point, they

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will accept the so-called Israeli narrative, but

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they were shocked to see that even those

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young people have rejected them and they are

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willing to resist this occupation.

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These are among the key lessons that we

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have learned.

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SubhanAllah.

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I mean, I was just thinking, what would

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you, what would people like 10 years from

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now, 100 years from now, in your opinion,

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what would they be saying about this, this

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period of this, this event in human history?

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See, well, normally, in general, I'm not talking

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about this case.

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Normally, history sides with the victors.

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Okay.

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Normally, history sides with the victors.

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And when victory comes, even history overlooks the

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mistakes of the victors.

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Yeah.

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But history, which means that history sides against

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the losers and even whatever the losers have

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done, which is correct.

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Yeah.

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They will, history will magnify it and historians

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will start criticizing these activities, even if they

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were right, just because they were carried out

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by the losers.

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This is a very important point.

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So sometimes history, yeah, is not fair.

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Okay.

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I don't want to mention, you know, what

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happened to Hitler and what happened in the

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Second World War, what happened to even the

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Ottoman Empire, what happened to...

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Okay.

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Normally, history, yeah, sides against the losers and

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history starts to criticize them very, very heavily.

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Okay.

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Now, this is one thing.

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We, I am confident, inshallah, that at the

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end of these atrocities, Allah will grant victory

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to the people of the truth.

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And in this case, the Palestinians, the Muslim

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Palestinians.

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It might take some time.

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They might sacrifice more.

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The whole ummah might sacrifice more.

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But at the end of the day, I

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believe that, inshallah, they will be victorious and

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history will start reading what happened according to

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that, from that angle.

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This is one point, but from the other

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point, I believe that when, irrespective of what

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will happen, I think history will record that

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the entire world failed to stop this genocide,

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which may be, which is the worst genocide

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that took place in the modern history.

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I think, I think because it has been

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documented and those...

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Yes, this documentation will not be lost easily.

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So the coming generations will be at a

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shock.

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Yeah, they will be shocked how on earth

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the whole world witnessed these genocides, these genocides

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or this genocide taking place and no one

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was able to do anything to stop it.

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And, you know, we have seen maybe that

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clip.

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I'm sure you have seen it.

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Well, when the children are watching like documentaries

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with their parents in China, in Europe, etc.

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And the children will turn to their parents

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and will ask them, did you do something?

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Why did you keep quiet?

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Why didn't you do something to stop that?

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Yeah, and something like this.

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So this, you know, this will happen.

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This will happen.

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And it will be, you know, a dark

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page in the history of humanity that this

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genocide was taking place in a very small

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area.

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You know, again, we keep saying that Gaza

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may be one quarter of London, just one

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quarter of London.

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And SubhanAllah, the landscape of Gaza is just

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a flat earth.

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OK, it doesn't have mountains.

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It doesn't have, you know, forests.

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It's not a huge land.

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So the history will record that dark page

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that this Zionist state supported by the main

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superpower in the world, United States, along with

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many other Western countries, have put that small

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place under siege for decades.

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And then at one point they decided to

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destroy them, to kill them, to massacre them.

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And the whole world is watching that.

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The history also will record that between Gaza

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and an Arab country and a big Arab

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country like Egypt, the borders is maybe 80

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meters or in some places less than that.

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And Egypt failed to even pass a bottle

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of water for the Palestinians.

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In fact, it participated in putting the Palestinians

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under siege.

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History will record that.

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Yeah.

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So and history also will record that many

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Muslim countries were celebrating different celebrations and as

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if there is no atrocity just miles away

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from them.

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They were singing, dancing and as if no

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one is being massacred next to their door.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you talk about victory.

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And what does victory and defeat look like

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for either side, in your opinion?

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OK.

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I saw a video, like an essay by

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I think it was the editor of Middle

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East Eye.

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And he said Israel's already lost.

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And, you know, the Palestinian Gazan resistance already

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won because their aim was to exist, to

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resist.

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And as long as you do that, you're

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victorious.

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And the Israelis aim was to just wipe

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everyone out.

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And they're still alive.

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They're still resisting.

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Yeah, see, we can look at it from

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a micro perspective and a macro perspective.

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OK.

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Now, I always like to start with the

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macro perspective.

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From a macro perspective, I think the so

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-called Israel, and if I say just Israel,

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and you forgive me for that.

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OK.

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I think they have started the end of

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their existence.

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OK.

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Just simply look at it without much details.

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Do you think that Israel and the Israelis

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will be able to enjoy peace, even if

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they manage to destroy the Palestinian resistance, even

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if they manage to win this war?

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Do you think that they are able to

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live in peace in the coming, at least,

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20, 30 years?

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Even if they get rid of every Palestinian

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in the world, no one's going to forget

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what's happening.

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And they will keep coming after them, case

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after case.

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Yeah, they themselves, see, even the feeling of

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peace, they lost it.

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They lost it because they have seen what

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they, even if they justify, even if they

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justify, they have seen that they have created

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animosity around them, yeah, in the whole Muslim

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world.

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And they have seen the demonstrations.

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They have seen at least the moral support.

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They are witnessing the social media.

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So the inner peace, they have lost it.

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They have lost it.

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And when a state is unable to provide

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the honor, the inner peace for its inhabitants,

00:28:07 --> 00:28:08

yeah, then they have lost it.

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And the main factor for stability of that

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state is lost, which is what?

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Which is the inner peace the people have,

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or the people lost.

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Uh, see, you wouldn't, Al Jazeera yesterday, uh,

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put forward a map, yeah, published a map

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of, again, so-called Israel, and the walls

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Israel have built around them to protect themselves.

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Walls, high walls, yeah, between, of course, themselves

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and Gaza.

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Between themselves and Egypt, Sahara and Naqab, and

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Naqab desert, between themselves and Jordan, even around

00:29:06 --> 00:29:10

West Bank, yeah, even next to the borders

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of Lebanon and, and Syria, yeah.

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So they, and, uh, this, uh, apart from

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that, they have established towers of, uh, towers

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of advanced technology to monitor the surrounding areas.

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So this means that they are living in

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fear.

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Now, the people there, they will continue living

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in fear.

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This means that the project, the Zionist project,

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have actually failed because they were hoping that

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they will be able to normalize with the

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surrounding countries.

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They might be able to normalize with the

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governments of the surrounding countries, but they won't

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be able to normalize with the people around

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them because, uh, the whole, the, the, the,

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the, uh, the whole Ummah, the whole Muslim,

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uh, those countries have witnessed the massacres they

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have carried out.

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Yeah.

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And, and they will not forget that.

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If they think that they will forget that,

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uh, they, I think they have fooled themselves.

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So this is, this is, this is one

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thing.

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The other thing, okay, it is impossible to

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wipe out the Palestinians.

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If they wiped out the Palestinians in Gaza,

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which is impossible.

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Yeah.

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Uh, what about the Palestinians in West Bank?

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What about Palestinians around the world?

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Here we are talking about, uh, seven to

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8 million Palestinians living in exile.

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And this genocide have, uh, resurrected their national,

00:31:07 --> 00:31:11

uh, feelings and their connection to Gaza.

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Yeah.

00:31:12 --> 00:31:14

Uh, I am myself, I am Palestinians.

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I'm originally from Gaza.

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What happened?

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I was born in Saudi Arabia.

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I have never felt connected to Gaza as

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I have felt now.

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My children have never seen Gaza.

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They were either born, uh, some of them,

00:31:32 --> 00:31:34

they were born in, uh, in London.

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And some of them were born outside.

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Uh, they now, they now think of Gaza.

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They think of Palestine.

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They think of Al-Quds.

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They think of their roots as Palestinians, despite

00:31:50 --> 00:31:54

the fact that they are British now, but

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they are thinking of their roots and thousands

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of, or maybe actually millions of Palestinians have

00:32:03 --> 00:32:08

resurrected this national feeling, which is an Islamic

00:32:08 --> 00:32:11

feeling, is not divorced from the Islamic feeling,

00:32:12 --> 00:32:14

which leads me to the second point, which

00:32:14 --> 00:32:19

is now Palestinians, I can assure you from

00:32:19 --> 00:32:22

my, you know, my, I've been traveling here

00:32:22 --> 00:32:25

and there and meeting different people, even the

00:32:25 --> 00:32:26

national Palestinians.

00:32:27 --> 00:32:32

Now they have seen that, uh, the national,

00:32:33 --> 00:32:37

the, uh, the national discourse.

00:32:37 --> 00:32:37

Nationalists.

00:32:38 --> 00:32:39

No, no, sorry.

00:32:40 --> 00:32:42

They, the nationalism, okay.

00:32:42 --> 00:32:47

Or national discourse is not sufficient for them

00:32:47 --> 00:32:51

to liberate their land and to resist the

00:32:51 --> 00:32:52

occupation.

00:32:52 --> 00:32:55

And they believe this strongly that they have

00:32:55 --> 00:32:59

to couple it with the Islamic, with the

00:32:59 --> 00:33:01

Islamic, uh, discourse.

00:33:02 --> 00:33:04

And this in of itself is a very

00:33:04 --> 00:33:06

advanced, uh, stage.

00:33:07 --> 00:33:11

And that's why, uh, the, the, the Palestinian

00:33:11 --> 00:33:15

resistance will become an Islamic resistance.

00:33:15 --> 00:33:15

Yeah.

00:33:15 --> 00:33:20

And it will, uh, it will be endorsed

00:33:20 --> 00:33:25

by, uh, many factors of the Palestinians, uh,

00:33:25 --> 00:33:29

all over the world, and it will take

00:33:29 --> 00:33:31

different forms now.

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And also it united them because they believe

00:33:36 --> 00:33:39

now that they have a goal, which is

00:33:39 --> 00:33:42

what, which is to be independent, to free

00:33:42 --> 00:33:46

their land, to have their own, uh, to

00:33:46 --> 00:33:49

have their own state, to have their own

00:33:49 --> 00:33:49

country.

00:33:50 --> 00:33:54

So, so that in of itself, yeah, that

00:33:54 --> 00:33:58

in of itself, uh, is, uh, is not

00:33:58 --> 00:34:02

just one step towards victory, but actually it

00:34:02 --> 00:34:04

is 10 steps towards victory.

00:34:04 --> 00:34:08

And that's why, as I said, from a

00:34:08 --> 00:34:12

macro perspective, from a macro perspective, you cannot

00:34:12 --> 00:34:16

say that, uh, the, the, uh, the Palestinians

00:34:16 --> 00:34:21

have lost, even if the Israelis, uh, even

00:34:21 --> 00:34:25

if the Israelis managed to wipe Gaza out

00:34:25 --> 00:34:30

and the West Bank, uh, out completely, which

00:34:30 --> 00:34:31

is impossible.

00:34:32 --> 00:34:36

Now, if, if, if you want to speak

00:34:36 --> 00:34:42

about, uh, a micro perspective, I really don't

00:34:42 --> 00:34:46

want to talk about micro perspective because the

00:34:46 --> 00:34:47

situation is very dynamic.

00:34:48 --> 00:34:48

Okay.

00:34:50 --> 00:34:52

Uh, it's volatile, it's changing all the time.

00:34:52 --> 00:34:53

Exactly.

00:34:53 --> 00:34:58

Volatile, changing, and, uh, you know, even, uh,

00:34:58 --> 00:35:03

um, even strategic experts in, in, uh, military,

00:35:03 --> 00:35:07

they are unable to predict, um, to predict

00:35:07 --> 00:35:10

a particular end for this war.

00:35:11 --> 00:35:15

But what I feel is that, uh, the

00:35:15 --> 00:35:19

Palestinians, because of their, uh, resistance, uh, there,

00:35:19 --> 00:35:23

and, uh, also they managed to do something

00:35:23 --> 00:35:27

which is really extraordinary, uh, in Palestine.

00:35:27 --> 00:35:31

First of all, they did not leave Gaza.

00:35:32 --> 00:35:32

Yeah.

00:35:32 --> 00:35:34

They continued to resist.

00:35:34 --> 00:35:37

They continue to be united.

00:35:37 --> 00:35:44

They also managed to, uh, to reform whatever

00:35:44 --> 00:35:48

they can from the civil life, you know?

00:35:48 --> 00:35:51

So they started some schooling system.

00:35:51 --> 00:35:55

They even rebuilt, uh, you know, Ashifa hospital

00:35:55 --> 00:35:56

that has been destroyed.

00:35:57 --> 00:35:59

They have rebuilt some of the departments of

00:35:59 --> 00:36:01

Ashifa hospital.

00:36:01 --> 00:36:04

Uh, they started to, uh, they started to

00:36:04 --> 00:36:06

clean certain areas.

00:36:06 --> 00:36:09

Even the occupation will come and destroy those

00:36:09 --> 00:36:10

areas again.

00:36:10 --> 00:36:14

So they started to, uh, to manage their

00:36:14 --> 00:36:16

civil, okay, life.

00:36:16 --> 00:36:21

And that is so important for the, uh,

00:36:21 --> 00:36:24

for their resistance and for their existence.

00:36:25 --> 00:36:28

And, um, and, uh, it is a matter

00:36:28 --> 00:36:29

of time.

00:36:30 --> 00:36:33

See, Palestinians, we have to understand this.

00:36:33 --> 00:36:38

Palestinians, uh, live in, uh, in a state

00:36:38 --> 00:36:41

of war, you can say for 70 plus

00:36:41 --> 00:36:42

years.

00:36:42 --> 00:36:44

So they are used to this.

00:36:45 --> 00:36:45

Yeah.

00:36:46 --> 00:36:50

Unfortunately, it's not myself because I never lived

00:36:50 --> 00:36:52

there, but the Palestinians who lived in Gaza

00:36:52 --> 00:36:56

and who are living in Gaza and living

00:36:56 --> 00:36:59

in, uh, West Bank, they, they have this

00:36:59 --> 00:37:03

nature, which is to be resilient and to

00:37:03 --> 00:37:05

continue resisting.

00:37:05 --> 00:37:07

They have been living like this for the

00:37:07 --> 00:37:10

past 70 something years.

00:37:10 --> 00:37:14

So they can co-op, uh, with, they

00:37:14 --> 00:37:18

can co-op with this and that's the,

00:37:18 --> 00:37:22

the, the, uh, that is, uh, that gives

00:37:22 --> 00:37:25

them fuel to continue.

00:37:26 --> 00:37:26

Yes.

00:37:26 --> 00:37:30

And Inshallah, they will be, uh, victorious.

00:37:31 --> 00:37:31

Yeah.

00:37:31 --> 00:37:33

This is quite deeply.

00:37:33 --> 00:37:36

So Israelis have, so-called Israelis have, you

00:37:36 --> 00:37:38

know, the, the, the thing you mentioned about

00:37:38 --> 00:37:42

Al Jazeera, the, the walls they built to,

00:37:42 --> 00:37:47

um, imprison others have become their own cage

00:37:47 --> 00:37:49

in a way.

00:37:49 --> 00:37:53

And secondly, they've, they've galvanized the opposition.

00:37:53 --> 00:37:57

They've galvanized the Palestinian resistance, Palestinian activists,

00:37:58 --> 00:38:01

politicians, even those that were, you know, closer

00:38:01 --> 00:38:04

to them, they've pushed them away, polarized, and

00:38:04 --> 00:38:07

they've united the Palestinians all around the world.

00:38:07 --> 00:38:09

Now they're, they're kind of moving away from

00:38:09 --> 00:38:12

the kind of secular, those that were secular

00:38:12 --> 00:38:13

kind of nationalistic types.

00:38:13 --> 00:38:16

You're saying they understand now that they need

00:38:16 --> 00:38:17

the Islamic discourse.

00:38:17 --> 00:38:19

They need Islamic basis.

00:38:19 --> 00:38:24

In fact, not only Palestinians, but okay, you

00:38:24 --> 00:38:26

can say the Muslim ummah at large.

00:38:27 --> 00:38:30

And in fact, you, uh, we should not

00:38:30 --> 00:38:33

just limit that to the Muslim ummah at

00:38:33 --> 00:38:38

large, but also, also, uh, many of the,

00:38:38 --> 00:38:41

uh, uh, many of the non-Muslims.

00:38:42 --> 00:38:42

Yeah.

00:38:43 --> 00:38:47

Yesterday we have seen, uh, or not yesterday,

00:38:47 --> 00:38:50

a few days ago, we have seen the

00:38:50 --> 00:38:54

American, uh, actor who was commenting on the

00:38:54 --> 00:38:58

burning of the tents of the, uh, Palestinians

00:38:58 --> 00:39:01

in, yeah, no, no, no, the, the, the

00:39:01 --> 00:39:03

tents, maybe in the hospital.

00:39:03 --> 00:39:03

Yeah.

00:39:04 --> 00:39:05

North of Gaza.

00:39:06 --> 00:39:10

So see, see this, this for me is

00:39:10 --> 00:39:14

a strategic defeat for the West.

00:39:15 --> 00:39:15

Yeah.

00:39:16 --> 00:39:20

And that's why, you know, if we need

00:39:20 --> 00:39:26

to look at this genocide, this war, this

00:39:26 --> 00:39:28

conflict, call it whatever you want to call

00:39:28 --> 00:39:32

it from a macro strategic perspective.

00:39:33 --> 00:39:38

When you lose confidence in your own values.

00:39:40 --> 00:39:40

Yeah.

00:39:40 --> 00:39:44

And the West has lost confidence in its

00:39:44 --> 00:39:46

own values.

00:39:46 --> 00:39:46

Yeah.

00:39:47 --> 00:39:50

Then that is the end of your existence

00:39:50 --> 00:39:55

because you don't have values to live by.

00:39:55 --> 00:40:00

And this model, yeah, this model, which is,

00:40:01 --> 00:40:07

uh, which thinks that power military, yes, or

00:40:07 --> 00:40:14

even economy power is your, uh, your main,

00:40:14 --> 00:40:19

uh, platform for your existence that does not,

00:40:19 --> 00:40:25

that does not provide the infrastructure for a

00:40:25 --> 00:40:32

civilization to continue existing, because this civilization, it

00:40:32 --> 00:40:36

will kill itself by itself because it lost

00:40:36 --> 00:40:39

confidence in its own values.

00:40:39 --> 00:40:45

So I am really, uh, I'm really surprised

00:40:45 --> 00:40:49

and I am really shocked how, uh, Americans

00:40:49 --> 00:40:55

in particular, yeah, Americans preferred, see America has

00:40:55 --> 00:40:57

defeated itself now.

00:40:57 --> 00:40:58

Yeah.

00:40:58 --> 00:41:04

America preferred to lose its, uh, heritage.

00:41:04 --> 00:41:05

Yeah.

00:41:05 --> 00:41:09

In one year because of the support it

00:41:09 --> 00:41:10

gave to Israel.

00:41:11 --> 00:41:16

So they preferred, yeah, to aid Israel over

00:41:16 --> 00:41:23

their, uh, over their victory themselves or over

00:41:23 --> 00:41:28

their preservation of their own civilization.

00:41:29 --> 00:41:29

Yeah.

00:41:29 --> 00:41:34

That's why it is actually the start of

00:41:34 --> 00:41:38

the defeat of this American, you know, era.

00:41:38 --> 00:41:38

Yes.

00:41:39 --> 00:41:44

No doubt that they are militarily, economically, yeah,

00:41:45 --> 00:41:47

they are in control of the whole world,

00:41:48 --> 00:41:53

but that, you know, physical, uh, militant or

00:41:53 --> 00:41:57

military power and economy power, if it is

00:41:57 --> 00:42:02

not standing on solid foundation of values, it

00:42:02 --> 00:42:05

will crumble very quickly.

00:42:06 --> 00:42:09

And I'm really shocked that the American thinkers

00:42:09 --> 00:42:13

have accepted that their country to do that.

00:42:14 --> 00:42:15

Similarly here in Britain.

00:42:16 --> 00:42:16

Yeah.

00:42:16 --> 00:42:19

Similarly, it is the, the, the, the case

00:42:19 --> 00:42:23

in Britain and even some other Western countries,

00:42:23 --> 00:42:24

Germany in particular.

00:42:24 --> 00:42:28

But maybe someone might say that Germany, it

00:42:28 --> 00:42:32

doesn't come across as a, as a superpower,

00:42:32 --> 00:42:35

as a civilization, but it is part of

00:42:35 --> 00:42:36

the Western.

00:42:37 --> 00:42:39

It is part of the Western, uh, you

00:42:39 --> 00:42:41

know, uh, bubble.

00:42:42 --> 00:42:42

Yeah.

00:42:42 --> 00:42:43

Yeah.

00:42:43 --> 00:42:46

So this is what is happening.

00:42:47 --> 00:42:50

Actually, what is happening is, uh, shocking the

00:42:50 --> 00:42:51

whole world.

00:42:51 --> 00:42:56

And it is actually restructuring the whole world.

00:42:57 --> 00:43:00

And this leads me to a point, a

00:43:00 --> 00:43:04

very important point, which is, I think now

00:43:04 --> 00:43:07

it is, uh, a very golden opportunity for

00:43:07 --> 00:43:11

us as Muslims to come across and to

00:43:11 --> 00:43:16

present Islam as an alternative civilization.

00:43:17 --> 00:43:17

Yeah.

00:43:18 --> 00:43:20

But so Sheikh, I mean, so we talked

00:43:20 --> 00:43:23

about the West and obviously you, you, by

00:43:23 --> 00:43:26

West, you mean people in power, not like

00:43:26 --> 00:43:28

the everyday person like you and me.

00:43:28 --> 00:43:29

Of course, yeah, this is what we mean,

00:43:29 --> 00:43:29

yeah.

00:43:30 --> 00:43:35

But like the, the dominant, um, kind of,

00:43:35 --> 00:43:40

uh, values or lack of values, uh, in,

00:43:40 --> 00:43:43

in, in the, um, the animating Western policy.

00:43:44 --> 00:43:47

That's, that's kind of expose itself as failure

00:43:47 --> 00:43:50

and, and, and crumbled and kind of in

00:43:50 --> 00:43:52

it's because of its support for the genocide

00:43:52 --> 00:43:54

and it's, it's cover for genocide and so

00:43:54 --> 00:43:54

forth.

00:43:55 --> 00:43:59

But the Muslim world hasn't been doing, um,

00:43:59 --> 00:44:00

much better.

00:44:00 --> 00:44:03

And I mean, it hasn't been actively, obviously

00:44:03 --> 00:44:05

responsible for the genocide, but many people would

00:44:05 --> 00:44:07

say Muslim countries have failed.

00:44:07 --> 00:44:07

Yeah.

00:44:07 --> 00:44:08

What's your vision on that?

00:44:08 --> 00:44:10

What's your, what's your, this is a very

00:44:10 --> 00:44:11

good point.

00:44:12 --> 00:44:14

This is a very good point, but here,

00:44:15 --> 00:44:19

see, no one has ever, uh, spoken about

00:44:19 --> 00:44:23

the Muslim world as, you know, as a

00:44:23 --> 00:44:26

world that can bring justice to, to the

00:44:26 --> 00:44:27

world.

00:44:27 --> 00:44:29

We all know that the Muslim world is

00:44:29 --> 00:44:30

just Muslim by name.

00:44:30 --> 00:44:33

We all know that most of the Muslim

00:44:33 --> 00:44:35

countries are corrupted countries.

00:44:35 --> 00:44:37

We all know that most of the Muslim

00:44:37 --> 00:44:41

leaders, political leaders are puppet of the, uh,

00:44:41 --> 00:44:43

Western, uh, hegemony.

00:44:44 --> 00:44:46

We all know that no one has ever,

00:44:46 --> 00:44:55

uh, no one has ever relied on the

00:44:55 --> 00:44:57

Muslim, uh, Muslim world.

00:44:57 --> 00:45:02

No one has ever expected something different.

00:45:02 --> 00:45:04

We all know that they are either they

00:45:04 --> 00:45:06

are coward leaders.

00:45:07 --> 00:45:07

Okay.

00:45:07 --> 00:45:10

We are talking about governments here.

00:45:10 --> 00:45:14

Again, either they are coward or they are

00:45:14 --> 00:45:19

helpless or they are very weak, very weak.

00:45:19 --> 00:45:20

They cannot do anything.

00:45:21 --> 00:45:24

And we all know that they are disunited.

00:45:24 --> 00:45:25

Yes.

00:45:25 --> 00:45:27

And they cannot come together.

00:45:27 --> 00:45:29

And that's why, to be honest with you,

00:45:29 --> 00:45:34

I stopped talking about Muslim, uh, Muslims should

00:45:34 --> 00:45:36

be united and doing this and that because

00:45:36 --> 00:45:41

it will receive deaf, you know, deaf, uh,

00:45:41 --> 00:45:44

people, deaf ears.

00:45:44 --> 00:45:47

And, uh, we will just waste our time

00:45:47 --> 00:45:49

talking about the Muslim leaders should do this

00:45:49 --> 00:45:50

and that.

00:45:50 --> 00:45:53

Let us focus on what we can do.

00:45:53 --> 00:45:53

Yes.

00:45:54 --> 00:45:57

As, uh, as the, the, the masses.

00:45:58 --> 00:45:58

Okay.

00:45:58 --> 00:46:00

Muslims all over the world.

00:46:00 --> 00:46:00

The masses.

00:46:01 --> 00:46:01

Yeah.

00:46:01 --> 00:46:03

What's your message to the ulama of the

00:46:03 --> 00:46:06

Muslims in the Muslim world and outside the

00:46:06 --> 00:46:06

Muslim world?

00:46:06 --> 00:46:07

Yeah.

00:46:07 --> 00:46:10

See, this is the ulama are the leaders

00:46:10 --> 00:46:13

of the Muslim ummah.

00:46:13 --> 00:46:14

Yeah.

00:46:14 --> 00:46:17

And when Allah says, وَأَطِعُوا اللَّهُ وَأَطِعُوا الرَّسُولَ

00:46:17 --> 00:46:22

وَأُولِي الْأَمْرِ مِنكُمْ وَأُولِي الْأَمْرِ As the scholars

00:46:22 --> 00:46:25

have said, Ibn Kathir mentioned this in his

00:46:25 --> 00:46:28

tafsir and many others that ulul amr actually

00:46:28 --> 00:46:34

the political leadership and the ulama as well.

00:46:34 --> 00:46:34

Yeah.

00:46:35 --> 00:46:38

The ulama are the leaders of the ummah.

00:46:38 --> 00:46:41

Now the political leadership of the ummah, as

00:46:41 --> 00:46:44

we said, is, has lost it, uh, is

00:46:44 --> 00:46:48

failing and we are not expecting anything from

00:46:48 --> 00:46:48

them.

00:46:48 --> 00:46:51

But the ulama should not fail.

00:46:52 --> 00:46:56

وَإِذْ أَخَذَ اللَّهُ مِثَاقَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتَابَ لَتُبَيِّنُنَّهُ

00:46:56 --> 00:47:00

لِلنَّاسِ وَلَا تَكْتُمُونَ Allah took the covenant from

00:47:00 --> 00:47:01

the people of the book.

00:47:02 --> 00:47:05

This includes the ulama of this ummah, that

00:47:05 --> 00:47:08

they should disclose the haqq.

00:47:08 --> 00:47:10

They should stand for the haqq.

00:47:11 --> 00:47:13

They should fight for the haqq.

00:47:13 --> 00:47:13

Yes.

00:47:13 --> 00:47:16

Do you think that's happening more or less

00:47:16 --> 00:47:19

than it was 12 months ago now?

00:47:20 --> 00:47:22

So it is happening.

00:47:23 --> 00:47:25

It's very difficult to evaluate.

00:47:25 --> 00:47:28

But what we say that, alhamdulillah, the vast

00:47:28 --> 00:47:32

majority of the scholars of the ummah stood

00:47:32 --> 00:47:34

with the haqq with different levels.

00:47:34 --> 00:47:37

Obviously, we know that some scholars in some

00:47:37 --> 00:47:42

Muslim countries cannot speak about Palestine, cannot just

00:47:42 --> 00:47:46

speak about Palestine, let alone making dua for

00:47:46 --> 00:47:49

the Palestinians, let alone pushing their countries to

00:47:49 --> 00:47:50

support the Palestinians.

00:47:51 --> 00:47:53

They cannot do that because of the political

00:47:53 --> 00:47:56

situation in their country.

00:47:56 --> 00:47:57

But generally speaking...

00:47:57 --> 00:47:58

What should they do then?

00:47:59 --> 00:48:00

Okay.

00:48:00 --> 00:48:03

Just before that, generally speaking, the ulama, they

00:48:03 --> 00:48:08

were, okay, generally speaking, they were doing a

00:48:08 --> 00:48:09

good job.

00:48:09 --> 00:48:13

Sometimes it is not as they could have

00:48:13 --> 00:48:14

done.

00:48:14 --> 00:48:20

We have to admit that because, unfortunately, all

00:48:20 --> 00:48:25

what they can do is just talking about

00:48:25 --> 00:48:28

the situation, encouraging the Muslim ummah to do

00:48:28 --> 00:48:31

something, encouraging the leadership of the Muslim ummah

00:48:31 --> 00:48:32

to do something.

00:48:33 --> 00:48:36

Unfortunately, and it is very sad that we

00:48:36 --> 00:48:38

as ulama, I am one of them, is

00:48:38 --> 00:48:43

unable or disabled from doing something that is

00:48:43 --> 00:48:44

tangible.

00:48:46 --> 00:48:50

This is very unfortunate, but that doesn't mean

00:48:50 --> 00:48:57

that we cannot or we should stop.

00:48:57 --> 00:49:01

That doesn't mean that we should not continue

00:49:01 --> 00:49:05

doing the maximum that we can do on

00:49:05 --> 00:49:10

a political level, lobbying, putting pressure on governments,

00:49:10 --> 00:49:15

encouraging the ummah, motivating the ummah, empowering the

00:49:15 --> 00:49:16

ummah to do something.

00:49:16 --> 00:49:19

And this is the most important thing for

00:49:19 --> 00:49:22

us as people of knowledge or people of

00:49:22 --> 00:49:25

da'wah to do because people listen to

00:49:25 --> 00:49:26

the ulama.

00:49:26 --> 00:49:32

We have the spiritual influence over people, so

00:49:32 --> 00:49:34

we have to continue doing that.

00:49:34 --> 00:49:37

We should also, now it is the time

00:49:37 --> 00:49:42

to be more united in order to be

00:49:42 --> 00:49:45

able to unite the ummah in and of

00:49:45 --> 00:49:45

itself.

00:49:45 --> 00:49:48

Maybe we need now to come up with

00:49:48 --> 00:49:56

a different discourse that will work for a

00:49:56 --> 00:49:59

better future for our Muslim ummah.

00:49:59 --> 00:50:00

We need to encourage.

00:50:01 --> 00:50:03

We need ourselves to do that, and we

00:50:03 --> 00:50:06

need to encourage Muslims to be more active

00:50:06 --> 00:50:09

in da'wah because, as I always say,

00:50:09 --> 00:50:12

that it is a very golden opportunity for

00:50:12 --> 00:50:15

us Muslims to do da'wah.

00:50:15 --> 00:50:19

Now the whole world is looking for Islam

00:50:19 --> 00:50:22

as an alternative, not just from a spiritual

00:50:22 --> 00:50:26

perspective, but from a civilizational perspective.

00:50:26 --> 00:50:29

This is our opportunity.

00:50:29 --> 00:50:34

We also need to continue putting pressure on

00:50:34 --> 00:50:36

the leadership of the Muslim ummah.

00:50:37 --> 00:50:39

We should continue doing that.

00:50:39 --> 00:50:42

We should not stop doing that, but we

00:50:42 --> 00:50:46

should not just think that this is the

00:50:46 --> 00:50:49

only thing that we can do because we

00:50:49 --> 00:50:54

know the political leadership of the ummah and

00:50:54 --> 00:50:55

what they can do.

00:50:56 --> 00:50:59

Do you think that even if the Muslim

00:50:59 --> 00:51:03

leaders were, or there were more brave Muslim

00:51:03 --> 00:51:10

leaders that did have that allegiance to the

00:51:10 --> 00:51:13

ummah, to the haq, to justice, what do

00:51:13 --> 00:51:16

you think they could have done, or what

00:51:16 --> 00:51:16

should they be doing?

00:51:17 --> 00:51:19

Yeah, this is a good question.

00:51:20 --> 00:51:21

This is a good question.

00:51:21 --> 00:51:24

I mean, I feel that, like everyone else,

00:51:24 --> 00:51:25

why aren't they doing something?

00:51:25 --> 00:51:26

They should be doing something.

00:51:26 --> 00:51:28

But then I think, well, what are they

00:51:28 --> 00:51:29

supposed to do?

00:51:29 --> 00:51:33

I mean, yeah, yeah, this is a good

00:51:33 --> 00:51:34

question.

00:51:34 --> 00:51:38

Maybe it is not a practical question, but

00:51:38 --> 00:51:43

okay, see, they can do a lot.

00:51:44 --> 00:51:45

I mean, for example, I mean, the reason

00:51:45 --> 00:51:49

I ask, for example, people can actually give

00:51:49 --> 00:51:50

them in terms of their lobbying, they could

00:51:50 --> 00:51:54

say, look, we as the people, we demand

00:51:54 --> 00:51:57

that you, we ask nicely if that you

00:51:57 --> 00:51:59

do this or you do that, you know,

00:51:59 --> 00:52:02

because people might just say, oh, it's either

00:52:02 --> 00:52:05

go all out war or do absolutely nothing.

00:52:06 --> 00:52:07

So they will say, well, we don't want

00:52:07 --> 00:52:08

to go to war.

00:52:08 --> 00:52:08

Yeah, yeah.

00:52:09 --> 00:52:11

In between, there are so many things that

00:52:11 --> 00:52:12

can be done.

00:52:12 --> 00:52:15

Yeah, of course, of course, if we are

00:52:15 --> 00:52:17

living in an ideal situation.

00:52:17 --> 00:52:22

Yeah, they should have, you know, they should

00:52:22 --> 00:52:25

have supported the people of Palestine from a

00:52:25 --> 00:52:29

military perspective, because this is a protected right.

00:52:30 --> 00:52:34

Yeah, even by the international law, because now

00:52:34 --> 00:52:38

Gaza is being occupied and Gaza, it has

00:52:38 --> 00:52:39

been attacked.

00:52:39 --> 00:52:42

If in an ideal situation, this should not

00:52:42 --> 00:52:43

have happened.

00:52:43 --> 00:52:47

OK, but leave the ideal situation because people

00:52:47 --> 00:52:50

say, well, we are too far from the

00:52:50 --> 00:52:51

ideal situation.

00:52:52 --> 00:52:55

And that's why we say that what we

00:52:55 --> 00:53:00

need, we need a Muslim, we need a

00:53:00 --> 00:53:04

strong Muslim country.

00:53:05 --> 00:53:10

Yeah, that also is strong from a political

00:53:10 --> 00:53:13

perspective within the United Nations.

00:53:14 --> 00:53:16

And that's why the whole world now should

00:53:16 --> 00:53:21

think of the current United Nations setup, that

00:53:21 --> 00:53:23

the whole world is controlled by the five

00:53:23 --> 00:53:25

veto countries.

00:53:26 --> 00:53:30

Yeah, the whole world is stuck with that.

00:53:30 --> 00:53:33

And this, I am appealing now to the

00:53:33 --> 00:53:39

young people to start marching, demanding for restructuring

00:53:39 --> 00:53:41

the United Nations.

00:53:42 --> 00:53:46

Otherwise, these atrocities will continue.

00:53:46 --> 00:53:50

Now, it is taking place in people in

00:53:50 --> 00:53:50

Gaza.

00:53:50 --> 00:53:53

Later on, it will, it might take place

00:53:53 --> 00:53:56

in another part of the world, maybe in

00:53:56 --> 00:53:59

India, in China, in Russia, in America itself.

00:53:59 --> 00:54:02

And no one can do anything because these

00:54:02 --> 00:54:07

countries, OK, except India, they have the veto

00:54:07 --> 00:54:10

right and no one can stop them from

00:54:10 --> 00:54:14

committing any genocide or any atrocity as simple

00:54:14 --> 00:54:14

as this.

00:54:15 --> 00:54:17

OK, so the whole world, that's why we

00:54:17 --> 00:54:20

need a new structure for the whole world.

00:54:21 --> 00:54:23

So let us leave the idealistic situation.

00:54:23 --> 00:54:28

If there were strong Muslim countries, relatively, we're

00:54:28 --> 00:54:32

not talking about, again, the idealistic situation.

00:54:33 --> 00:54:37

Immediately, they could have what kicked and closed

00:54:37 --> 00:54:39

any political.

00:54:40 --> 00:54:42

Embassies and ambassadors.

00:54:43 --> 00:54:47

Yes, any political presence of the Zionist state.

00:54:48 --> 00:54:49

This is number one.

00:54:49 --> 00:54:53

They should have boycotted all exports to that

00:54:53 --> 00:54:54

Zionist state.

00:54:55 --> 00:54:59

Unfortunately, many Muslim countries, they were still and

00:54:59 --> 00:55:02

they are still exporting some goods to the

00:55:02 --> 00:55:03

Zionist state.

00:55:04 --> 00:55:07

Yeah, so they could have done this.

00:55:08 --> 00:55:12

They could have sent aid to Gaza.

00:55:13 --> 00:55:15

Yes, when the people of Gaza, they need

00:55:15 --> 00:55:16

to survive.

00:55:16 --> 00:55:17

They need to live.

00:55:18 --> 00:55:25

Before this atrocity, Gaza was under siege, but

00:55:25 --> 00:55:28

it used to receive between 800 and 1000

00:55:28 --> 00:55:37

trucks on a daily basis for the people

00:55:37 --> 00:55:38

to survive.

00:55:38 --> 00:55:42

Now what they receive is just 100 trucks

00:55:42 --> 00:55:44

on lead.

00:55:44 --> 00:55:48

Yeah, and sometimes even those 100 trucks, they

00:55:48 --> 00:55:52

don't reach on time and they don't reach

00:55:52 --> 00:55:54

everywhere in Gaza.

00:55:54 --> 00:55:58

So if there were strong Muslim countries, this

00:55:58 --> 00:55:59

wouldn't happen.

00:56:00 --> 00:56:04

Then if there were strong Muslim countries, they

00:56:04 --> 00:56:12

would exercise political pressure in the United Nations

00:56:12 --> 00:56:16

on Israel, on America itself.

00:56:17 --> 00:56:20

Yeah, they could have a few Muslim countries.

00:56:20 --> 00:56:23

They could have come together and they could

00:56:23 --> 00:56:27

have done something regarding the global economy.

00:56:27 --> 00:56:30

Yeah, with their exporting oil, etc.

00:56:30 --> 00:56:36

And then America will take the matter seriously.

00:56:36 --> 00:56:41

Yeah, there are so many things that can

00:56:41 --> 00:56:42

be done, really.

00:56:43 --> 00:56:43

Yeah.

00:56:43 --> 00:56:44

Yeah.

00:56:44 --> 00:56:48

So in terms of why they're not done,

00:56:50 --> 00:56:53

do you think that's something that, you travel

00:56:53 --> 00:56:55

to lots of countries, lots of Muslim countries,

00:56:55 --> 00:56:57

you meet lots of ulema and masses of

00:56:57 --> 00:56:58

different countries.

00:56:59 --> 00:57:05

Do you think that there's no, like the

00:57:05 --> 00:57:08

problem is with the general Muslim ummah in

00:57:08 --> 00:57:11

those areas where they're not demanding it from

00:57:11 --> 00:57:15

their leaders to their governments to do this

00:57:15 --> 00:57:16

kind of stuff?

00:57:16 --> 00:57:20

Yeah, maybe this needs another podcast where we

00:57:20 --> 00:57:23

talk about the key problems of the ummah.

00:57:24 --> 00:57:27

And there are internal problems and there are

00:57:27 --> 00:57:28

external problems.

00:57:28 --> 00:57:32

Among the key problems of the ummah is

00:57:32 --> 00:57:34

the political leadership of the ummah.

00:57:35 --> 00:57:38

There is no doubt that the political leadership

00:57:38 --> 00:57:45

of the ummah is a hindrance to its

00:57:45 --> 00:57:50

reform, to its growth, to its success.

00:57:50 --> 00:57:52

There is no doubt about that.

00:57:53 --> 00:57:54

Mm hmm.

00:57:54 --> 00:57:55

Okay.

00:57:55 --> 00:57:58

And that might be, that might be the

00:57:58 --> 00:58:00

subject of another podcast.

00:58:00 --> 00:58:01

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

00:58:01 --> 00:58:03

We need to think about that.

00:58:03 --> 00:58:05

So in terms of.

00:58:06 --> 00:58:08

Which is a roadmap to reform.

00:58:08 --> 00:58:10

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:58:11 --> 00:58:15

What's your, what's the post-Israel plan?

00:58:16 --> 00:58:20

Yeah, we see that, look, in any case,

00:58:20 --> 00:58:24

whatever happens, the status quo cannot be umm,

00:58:26 --> 00:58:27

cannot be kept, right?

00:58:28 --> 00:58:32

So-called Israel, the Zionists are hemorrhaging support,

00:58:32 --> 00:58:33

international support.

00:58:33 --> 00:58:35

Their economy is in tatters.

00:58:36 --> 00:58:37

Their neighbors all hate them.

00:58:38 --> 00:58:40

You know, it's only a matter of time

00:58:40 --> 00:58:46

until, inshallah, this last European colony in the

00:58:46 --> 00:58:49

Middle East is dissolved and something else comes

00:58:49 --> 00:58:49

about.

00:58:49 --> 00:58:51

Just like happened in the rest of the

00:58:51 --> 00:58:51

countries there.

00:58:52 --> 00:58:55

Just like happened in South Africa or Rhodesia

00:58:55 --> 00:58:56

or, you know, countries pop in and out

00:58:56 --> 00:58:57

of existence.

00:58:57 --> 00:58:59

It doesn't mean they get, you know, people

00:58:59 --> 00:59:03

get killed or, you know, they attach rockets

00:59:03 --> 00:59:04

to it and it goes into outer space.

00:59:04 --> 00:59:07

No, the country is just, you know, a

00:59:07 --> 00:59:09

socially, a social political construct.

00:59:09 --> 00:59:11

What would you say, if we think now

00:59:11 --> 00:59:14

in terms of macro level, what comes next?

00:59:15 --> 00:59:17

Yeah, allahu alam, it's very difficult to predict.

00:59:17 --> 00:59:19

What should come next?

00:59:20 --> 00:59:23

Yeah, what I think is that Israel will

00:59:23 --> 00:59:26

exist for some time as a very weak

00:59:26 --> 00:59:27

entity.

00:59:29 --> 00:59:36

Yeah, and that weakness will, will speed up

00:59:36 --> 00:59:39

its end.

00:59:40 --> 00:59:44

Yeah, this is, this is, yaani, allahu alam,

00:59:44 --> 00:59:45

what will happen.

00:59:46 --> 00:59:53

Inshallah, they will be defeated in this genocide.

00:59:53 --> 00:59:54

Inshallah, they will be defeated.

00:59:55 --> 00:59:58

Once they are defeated, then they will exist

00:59:58 --> 01:00:01

for some time as, as a very weak

01:00:01 --> 01:00:01

state.

01:00:02 --> 01:00:06

And this might speed up their end.

01:00:07 --> 01:00:11

Now, if allahu alam, of course, in strategic

01:00:11 --> 01:00:14

thinking, and I always like to follow that

01:00:14 --> 01:00:21

model that you need to give, to consider

01:00:21 --> 01:00:22

all options.

01:00:23 --> 01:00:30

If they were victorious in this genocide by,

01:00:30 --> 01:00:34

for example, how they become victorious, let us

01:00:34 --> 01:00:39

say that they managed to free their prisoners

01:00:39 --> 01:00:41

or called so-called hostages.

01:00:41 --> 01:00:46

And they managed to control Gaza again, to

01:00:46 --> 01:00:48

occupy Gaza again.

01:00:49 --> 01:00:54

Yeah, if that happened, again, that might be

01:00:54 --> 01:00:58

a victory for them from a short perspective,

01:00:59 --> 01:01:01

but it will not be a victory for

01:01:01 --> 01:01:03

them from a long perspective.

01:01:04 --> 01:01:07

Yeah, from a strategic perspective, because of what

01:01:07 --> 01:01:10

we have said in the beginning of this

01:01:10 --> 01:01:11

podcast.

01:01:11 --> 01:01:16

But eventually, when, you know, I think many

01:01:16 --> 01:01:19

people would agree that eventually this is doomed

01:01:19 --> 01:01:19

to failure.

01:01:20 --> 01:01:22

What happens next?

01:01:22 --> 01:01:25

I mean, we don't want, I'm assuming we

01:01:25 --> 01:01:29

don't want just another, whatever the, you know,

01:01:29 --> 01:01:32

the other kind of neighboring states or many

01:01:32 --> 01:01:34

of the Muslim countries today, to just kind

01:01:34 --> 01:01:35

of pop up there.

01:01:36 --> 01:01:39

Is there any thinking that's happening by, you

01:01:39 --> 01:01:42

know, from the scholars, the policymakers in the

01:01:42 --> 01:01:45

region and outside the region, people with, you

01:01:45 --> 01:01:48

know, a lens looking at the region of

01:01:48 --> 01:01:50

what could be and what we can do

01:01:50 --> 01:01:53

in order to make a good outcome for

01:01:53 --> 01:01:57

the whole Ummah, you know, once this colony

01:01:57 --> 01:01:58

is dismantled?

01:01:59 --> 01:02:02

Yeah, this is maybe, this is, again, a

01:02:02 --> 01:02:03

subject of another podcast.

01:02:05 --> 01:02:09

Because it is a long discussion, so it's

01:02:09 --> 01:02:14

not very, maybe feasible to discuss it at

01:02:14 --> 01:02:15

the end of this episode.

01:02:16 --> 01:02:16

Okay.

01:02:17 --> 01:02:19

Barclay Fikchek, we've just got one last question.

01:02:19 --> 01:02:20

What are you worried about?

01:02:20 --> 01:02:22

You know, in other words, what should we

01:02:22 --> 01:02:24

avoid going forward now?

01:02:24 --> 01:02:25

This is a very good question.

01:02:26 --> 01:02:30

Yeah, to stop being resilient.

01:02:31 --> 01:02:33

To stop resisting.

01:02:34 --> 01:02:38

See, as far as you are resisting, in

01:02:38 --> 01:02:40

any form of resistance, you will be victorious.

01:02:42 --> 01:02:47

Yeah, as far as the Muslim Ummah is

01:02:47 --> 01:02:50

resisting and not giving up.

01:02:51 --> 01:02:54

Yeah, they will never be defeated.

01:02:55 --> 01:02:58

We will be defeated as a Muslim Ummah.

01:02:58 --> 01:03:03

And in particular, as Palestinians, if we give

01:03:03 --> 01:03:04

up.

01:03:05 --> 01:03:09

That's why, that's why my key message to

01:03:09 --> 01:03:15

the scholars, the imams, the Muslim masses, to

01:03:15 --> 01:03:18

the activists, don't ever give up.

01:03:19 --> 01:03:21

Don't ever give up.

01:03:22 --> 01:03:22

Yes.

01:03:28 --> 01:03:31

This includes giving up.

01:03:31 --> 01:03:32

Don't be weak.

01:03:33 --> 01:03:35

Don't be saddened.

01:03:35 --> 01:03:37

Don't lose it.

01:03:37 --> 01:03:38

Okay.

01:03:38 --> 01:03:42

Because you are superior as far as you

01:03:42 --> 01:03:42

are what?

01:03:43 --> 01:03:44

You are believers.

01:03:44 --> 01:03:48

And as we said, Allah says, وَإِن تَصْبِرُوا

01:03:48 --> 01:03:52

وَتَتَّقُوا Two conditions, which is what?

01:03:52 --> 01:03:53

Sabr, resilience.

01:03:53 --> 01:03:56

And Taqwa, you will be what?

01:03:56 --> 01:03:57

You will be victorious.

01:03:58 --> 01:04:01

Alhamdulillah, the Muslim Ummah is going back to

01:04:01 --> 01:04:02

Allah, yes.

01:04:02 --> 01:04:05

And the religiosity of the Muslim Ummah is

01:04:05 --> 01:04:06

increasing.

01:04:06 --> 01:04:10

We need now to continue as an Ummah

01:04:10 --> 01:04:15

and as Palestinians, in particular, to continue resisting.

01:04:17 --> 01:04:22

Yes, and Inshallah, Inshallah, we will be victorious

01:04:22 --> 01:04:26

if we have these two conditions, Sabr and

01:04:26 --> 01:04:28

Taqwa, as Allah Jalla wa A'la said.

01:04:29 --> 01:04:30

Jazakumullahu khair, Shaykh, on that point.

01:04:30 --> 01:04:32

Thank you for joining us.

01:04:32 --> 01:04:33

Sorry for taking so much of your time.

01:04:34 --> 01:04:36

But I wanted to get this, you know,

01:04:36 --> 01:04:39

one year kind of on update your thoughts

01:04:39 --> 01:04:42

and messages going forward.

01:04:42 --> 01:04:43

Jazakumullahu khairan to you for that.

01:04:43 --> 01:04:45

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01:04:46 --> 01:04:47

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01:04:50 --> 01:04:50

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01:04:51 --> 01:04:52

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01:04:52 --> 01:04:54

part two from Shaykh Khaytham, let us know

01:04:54 --> 01:04:55

in the comments as well.

01:04:55 --> 01:04:57

And we can push him to give a

01:04:57 --> 01:05:00

follow up about a roadmap to reform the

01:05:00 --> 01:05:03

Ummah, how to strengthen the Ummah and revive

01:05:03 --> 01:05:07

this civilization and including the Muslim majority world.

01:05:08 --> 01:05:09

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01:05:09 --> 01:05:12

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