Fahad Tasleem – Experiential Signs Spiritual Experiences & Finding the Truth

Fahad Tasleem
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The speakers discuss the importance of finding ways to overcome anxiety and discomfort in order to see the truth of Islam. They stress the use of "any negative experience" and the importance of finding ways to "has been around for a long time" in rational arguments. They also touch on the natural and human-made beauty of sugar and its use in various foods. The speakers briefly touch on the topic of natural and human-made beauty, with one speaker providing feedback on the topic.
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Salam alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

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Bismillah R Rahman Rahim, Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen wa Salatu

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was Salam ala Rasulillah crema my bod. So I wanted to welcome

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everyone here, to this the Sapiens live

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session, we're going to be Charles speaking about the topic of

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experiential signs, how to use people's spiritual experiences to

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help them find the truth. Now, this particular topic, it's it,

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it's of interest to me specifically because,

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you know, recently I was with someone and I asked him, I said,

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you know, if someone came to you, and asked you to define or to

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explain Islamic spirituality, how would you do it, and I got a, and

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this is a room full of what I would say, you know, practicing

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Muslims who are passionate about their faith and so on. And they

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really had a diverse range of answers.

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Whereas when I presented the question, how would you introduce

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Islam to someone, just as a general principle, you know, they

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had kind of your standardized, you know, Tawheed, starting with

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Allah, Allah is worthy of worship, and so on, so forth. So that kind

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of led me to, to really think deeper about the concept of

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spirituality within Islam, and then how we can use spirituality

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or spiritual experiences, as a tool to invite people to encourage

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people to think about the truth of Islam. So, with that said, what

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are we going to be speaking about today? Well,

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what we're going to be covering in this topic, in today's session,

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we're gonna be looking at why this particular topic and why now, why

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is it more important than ever, that we understand this topic

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in a way that we're able to articulate it properly, that we

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ourselves understand it, and that we're inviting humanity to Islam

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as it is as the normative understanding of Islam. And we'll

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get into that in a second. Because one of the things that I'll be

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reasoning, what I'll be speaking about is that a normative

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understanding of Islam devoid of a concept of spirituality, is in

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fact, not really an appropriate method. Because it is only giving

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someone a piecemeal understanding of Islam, it's not holistic. Okay.

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But I'll get into that. So we're going to start off with

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understanding why this topic and why now. So we'll look at it,

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we'll look at our contemporary world, we'll look at specifically

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spirituality and spiritual experiences, how people are

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craving, deeper spirituality and so on. Then the second part, we

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will move on to or the second section, we're going to looking at

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our current approaches, when we as Muslims, or people that are

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interested in inviting people to the truth, inviting people to

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Islam? What are the current approaches that are that are being

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used? And how are they you know, how do they compare with a more

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holistic understanding of Islam? And where can we perhaps improve

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in that, we're then going to move on to the concept of Islamic

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spirituality itself. Like I mentioned, I had, I had a

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conversation with, with a group of people and, and I asked him what

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Islamic spirituality was, and there's such a diversity of

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answers, that it will I was a bit taken aback even though, you know,

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if I asked some of you what is Islamic spirituality, you might

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actually be able to give a pretty succinct, pithy answer, and say,

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Well, this is Islamic spirituality. But nevertheless, I

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think it's important that we ourselves if if it's true, that we

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can use spirituality, and spiritual people spiritual

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experiences, as a way to call people to the truth, to invite

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people to Islam, then it's very important that we ourselves, have

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a good understanding of what Islamic spirituality is, so that

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that's what we'll cover in the third section. Now,

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after understanding what Islamic spirituality is, we're going to

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look at the ontology of the soul. And what I mean here, in fact, is

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more perhaps it should be better titled The ontology of the human

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being. Because while we understand we may understand, a conceptually

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what Islamic spirituality is, if we don't understand the nature of

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the human being, and its and its in his connection with the soul

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and the body and so on and so forth. Our excuse me, our

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understanding, may be one that is not we're not able to articulate

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Islamic spirituality as it should be.

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articulated. So we'll get into that. In the fourth section. The

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fifth section, we're going to take an example of a spiritual

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experience, in the sense that one of the we'll look at a couple of

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approaches of how to use spiritual experiences, one of those

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approaches is going to be, how can we invite people to spiritual acts

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that we as Muslims do, and to partake in those acts and partake,

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partake in some of those acts, with a good understanding of

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Islamic spirituality. So we'll have an example of one of those

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spiritual experiences, or spiritual acts, let's say, that

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are inside the Islamic paradigm Islamic worldview. The second

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thing would be What about someone that has their own spiritual

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experience? A Christian has their spiritual experience or Buddhist

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has their spiritual experiences? How do we then deal with that? And

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how do we use that as a means to call people to the truth or invite

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people to Islam? So that's in general, that's the that's where

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we'll be going in this particular presentation inshallah. So I ask

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Allah subhanho, wa taala, to make it a means to our betterment both

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in this dunya and the Astra and ask Allah subhanho wa taala, to

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accept it from all of us, and all of you that are out there in sha

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Allah. Okay, so why this talk? And why now? Well, one of the things

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that we see that within the modern world, you find that people have a

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multiple have have had many, many distractions, have many things

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that have that are part and parcel of the modern world, that cause

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the human being, to almost live a type of encircle insular, cerebral

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cold life, right. So we in the modern world, we have access to a

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lot of information right at our fingertips, we have access to

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comforts and things that we would consider, you know, very, you

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know, certain eases within the modern world that we could never

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imagine, you know, 5060 100 200 years ago. So, a lot of those

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aspects of the modern world,

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many would argue that, that causes the human being a type of

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discomfort. So you could be on your cell phone, and you could be,

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you know, let's say, looking for that, that particular text or you

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receive a certain text, you put your phone down, but then you get

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a notification. And, you know, research is research has shown

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that that notification is somewhat more or less equivalent to

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getting,

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you know, it's the phenomena of getting a notification is, is

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similar, somewhat similar to taking a type of drug or having a

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type of high. So you know, the same phenomena occurs within the

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the, the the chemicals within the brain. And so when you get that

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text, you're looking for the next text, or the next email or the

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next and the notifications prompt, that's your constant looking from

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one social media outlet to another one email account to another. And

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so this process keeps on going. But the reality is, is that while

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you get that first dopamine shot, that, again, is some research,

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many researchers will say that's equivalent to certain drugs that

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also give Don't you know, that, that that excrete dopamine

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that it's not satisfying. And so I think, the researcher and so you

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can see here, within the images, you've got, obviously, the gaming

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on the cell phone, that's a cause for this insular, you know,

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atomized lifestyle in the modern world. But not only that, just the

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phenomena of the modern world as well, in the sense that you have

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things that happen around the world, that can also cause a

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person to be unstable internally, in the sense that they're looking

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for something deeper when it comes to their life, meaning and so on

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and so forth. So you have wars around the world, for instance,

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that are proliferating, and, you know, that are happening all the

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time, you have certain social causes that, that add to this type

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of anxiety, where a person is looking for a deeper meaning or

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deeper understanding of themselves and the world that they live in.

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And just the phenomena of the the environment of us having a type of

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consumer mentality, where it's going from one product to the next

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buying one thing to the next. And I think it's summarized really

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well, just the phenomena of modernity with this statement from

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Lawrence shammies. And he writes in the hunger for more searching

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for values and an agent

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Read, he says, consumption without excuses, and without the need of

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justification. And so here he's talking about a, a certain

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phenomena of the modern world, and that has to do with consumption.

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And so he says consumption without excuses and without the need for

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justification.

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The beauty part was that it finessed the irksome question of

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values and purpose. So during the past decade, during the past

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decade, many people came to believe that there didn't have to

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be a purpose. The mechanism didn't require it. In other words, the

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consumer mechanism didn't require that you needed a teleology you

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didn't need a purpose, and meaning and all these deeper things like

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the the idea of consumerism, or the idea of the modern world, you

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could do away with any concept of, you know, what happens next, what

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are what are things are things meaningful, is there a purpose to

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my existence, my life, and so on, so forth. So what he's stating is,

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during the past decade, many people came to believe that there

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didn't have to be a purpose, the mechanism didn't require it,

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consumption kept the workers working, which kept the paychecks

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coming, which kept the people spending, which kept the investors

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investing, which meant that there was more to consume. The system,

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properly understood was independent of values and needed

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no philosophy to prop it up. It was a perfect circle. It was a

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perfect circle, complete in itself, but empty in the middle.

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And I think it's very profound, how he how he explained that

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because in our, you know, in our day and age, we see more and more

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people feeling that emptiness and feeling that idea that yes, I can

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go to work and come back and, and you know, and eat my TV dinner and

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sit in front of Netflix and chill, and whatever it might be. But all

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of this is just a rat race that goes round and round every day is,

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you know, just another day. And so that emptiness starts to now not

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at the human being. Now, because that emptiness starts to not that

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human being

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we have to ask like, well, what is that thing that's knowing that the

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human being what is it that, you know, what does that

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dissatisfaction and the, the ninth century scholar

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in hasm

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Andalusi he was a Muslim theologian, he was a, you know,

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you'd say, a polymath, very erudite scholar, who comes out of

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Muslim Spain, in the in the ninth century. And he has this stage,

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which I thought was very profound. He said, I have tried to find one

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goal, which everyone would agree would be excellent and worthy of

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being striven after I found only one.

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It's what was that goal? He says, to be free of hub? And how am I

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given, I've given a brute brief translation, your anxiety, but I'm

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gonna speak about that in a second as well. So he says, dispelling

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hum is a goal upon which all nations agree. In the case of

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every other objective, there will always be some people who do not

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desire it. For example, there are some who have no interest in

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amassing a fortune fortune, preferring abstinence to

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ownership. So his understanding and his prognosis of the problem

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is that that thing that's needed that whole within the human being,

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is that the problem that that people are feeling, feeling is the

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problem of him. So what does he mean by Hummer? What does the word

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hum mean? So, lanes lexicon, defines it as follows. That hum is

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anxiety, that's kind of a one word answer or disquietude, or trouble

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of mind. And this is very important because what we're going

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to see as we move forward, is that one of the things that Islamic

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spirituality provides is a type of freeing from a trouble of the soul

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and the trouble of the mind and what exactly speaking about So,

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coming back to the definition of hum, he says, hum is anxiety or

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disquietude, trouble or trouble of the mind, solicitude care or grief

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or sorrow, distress or disquietude affecting the heart or mind by

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reason of some harm or annoyance that is expected to happen and

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this is a really important distinction between hum and the

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hum. So he says and he actually mentioned that next he says

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differing from lum which signifies distress or disquietude affecting

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the heart or mind by reason of what has happened. So we noticed

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that you have this concept of certain occurrences that are

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happening or what have

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happened in the past, let's say that is what you will call him

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when you're you feel something about things that have happened

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happened in the past. But what hum really is, is this idea when you

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start reflecting upon what's happening to now and what's going

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to happen in the future. And we start looking at the future and

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saying, it's all just empty. I'm just a cog in a machine. Right.

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And I personally think that in the COVID environment, where many of

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us were truly atomized in the sense that we had this existence

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that became extremely insular and solitary, we were very alone. In

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many cases, that this, this idea of hum became exacerbated, we felt

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more of it, right. And so hum, as opposed to hum hum is related to

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that, which is about your current situation, or the future, when you

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look to the future, and it's bleak. You've just day in day out.

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So where does a person go? And where's the deeper satisfaction

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and deeper? You know, like, where's this all going? And like I

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said, as opposed to thumb, which is things that happened in the

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past, or occurrences that happen the death of a loved one, whatever

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it might be. So you have we have this problem. It's, it's it's

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reached, you know, a very extreme level in the modern day and age,

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right.

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So now enter the modern gurus, obviously, if there's a problem,

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you're going to find people rushing to give a solution to that

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problem, and truth. And so what I have here is a picture of a number

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of prominent, you can say, modern gurus. So you know, and I'm sure

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you recognize some of them, at least right here in here in

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Houston, you've got Joel Olsteen, he's a Christian preacher. But a

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lot of his talk is all about, you know, you and hope and you know,

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that you can do it and you can you can get there by the will of

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Jesus, and so on and so forth. And so, you know, he's, he's, he's

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giving this deeper solution, which what you'll notice is when you

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hear when, when he's speaking, he's not necessarily giving very

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robust,

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deep academic arguments or deep academic dissertations about how

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to solve this emptiness, but a lot of it is almost you can say, super

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superficial, superficial talk, you know, just Kalam, folly, as they

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say, right. But yet it kind of inspires people. So every Sunday,

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people would come to the church or tune in on TV, and he would have

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these messages of hope and the future and it's bright, and Jesus

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is with you, and so on and so forth. For with what goal or what

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understanding the understanding that humans in our in modernity

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are craving that. Similarly, you have a YouTube sensation, I would

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say Sadhguru. Now he's coming from an Indian paradigm, let's say a

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Hindu paradigm. And so but yet, what is he presenting, it's all

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about the self and sitting still solitude and all of these various

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ideas. Again, it's there because he understands, like Joel Osteen

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understands that there is this human need, and human beings are

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craving this, especially in modernity. And of course, the last

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one is Tony Robbins. So you're talking about, you know, someone

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that is outside the context of a religion, or a specific

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philosophy, but it's just more of that, you know, self help feel

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good, you can do it and the future is yours, and so on and so forth.

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Now, that being the case,

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what we want to ask, is, what where does Islam fit into all of

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this, like when we want to invite people to Islam, there is a deeper

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spiritual need. There is a deeper spiritual calling that people

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have, there is a disquietude, there's anxiety, there is a a hum,

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and what is very unfortunate is that within our tradition, we have

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a deeply spiritual tradition. But when we look at our own approaches

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to how we deal with the concept of Dawa, or inviting people to the

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truth, or encouraging people, or helping someone to find the truth,

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we find that many times it's almost cold and clinical. Because

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we are so focused on the argument, or we're so focused on you know, a

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type of that we want to make Islam just be very rational. And so

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we're going to now employ various means of discursive reasoning to

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say look, you have, you know, premise a premise b therefore, C,

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that sometimes when

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We miss out on the fact that we're not talking to a machine. But

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we're talking to a human being that has a multitude of emotions,

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and psychospiritual states and opinions and and worldviews,

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paradigms, cultures and so much that goes on within the human

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project. And we tend to hyper focus, many of us tend to hyper

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focus on one element that almost makes Islam seem just, again,

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cold, cerebral clinical, so therefore, we have this human

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machine, and we're going to input certain information. So we have

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information, Allah is one, the only one where the worship

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Mohammed Salah Salem, Prusa, prophethood, that are the shahada

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right now they've been guided, when in reality, we may be missing

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the bigger picture. So what I wanted to look at next was

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comparing our or in many circles, the current environment, or the

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current understanding of what people generally think Tao is, or

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what people think, sharing Islam is, or, or sharing the truth, or

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inviting someone to the truth, or helping someone finding the truth,

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what is somewhat prevalent, and perhaps this has to do with the

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modern age itself, that we ourselves are affected by that

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sort of consumer, you know, cold, cerebral, you know, view of the

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world, that we've been kind of put into the position where we, we

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have limited the invitation to Islam to just debate and just, you

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know, kind of being able to show the superiority of Islam by

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putting down another person or whatever it might be. And again,

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you're gonna see this and I'm not knocking debate in its entirety,

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obviously, that has a benefit. It has a you know, there's certain

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times when when when debate is necessary, but a lot of times we

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have now become myopic in how we understand inviting someone to the

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truth. So it goes from this kind of caring, warm,

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you know, welcoming phenomena, to one that becomes almost cold, a

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truce, almost, you know, that it's, it's, it's just full of

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debate, right? It's full of kind of just argumentation didn't

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write. Yet when we look at it, we're actually inviting a complete

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human being. So we're so the two approaches, we can you have one

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that's quite prevalent, which we will call functionalism. Right? So

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functionalism, it's more it's represented by that robot that's

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on the my right side of the screen. So functionalism is a view

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of the human being that has a type of understanding of the person

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you're speaking to, to be like a robot. So what is the robot is

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programmed, right? So there's an input, there's an output, there's

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no sort of reflection or contemplation. It's, there's no

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feeling no emotions, it's just you have you know, a certain input,

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certain premises, certain conclusion, deductive reasoning,

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you know, discursive reasoning, whatever it might be, and then

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boom, you have an output. But in reality, the human being is not

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just pre programmed, and does not lack reflection, contemplation,

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feelings, and emotion. Rather, the human being is a complex network

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of the upper right, the intellect, the knifes the desires, and you

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know that that base base desires, the rule, the spirit, or the soul,

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within the human being, that consciousness, the ULb, the heart,

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the fitrah, as we're gonna speak about, and that this human being

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is extremely deep and extremely multi varied, and it has a, it's

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very complex. So, when we look at these, the human being, even when

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we look at our tradition, Allah subhanaw taala, when describing

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the human being doesn't just say that this is a thinking being. Now

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I'm not saying Allah subhanaw taala doesn't mention that we are

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thinking beings, of course, we're always encouraged to think, to

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ponder of Allah taki Luna, do they not use the reasoning, but Allah

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describes the human being in many ways, and some of those ways have

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to do with that hum with that disquietude and the reasons for

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that disquietude. So for example, how does Allah describe the human

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being, he says in one in that first ayah that I mentioned here,

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what canel Insano acciara che in general, the human being loves to

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argue,

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you know, in another, another place in the Quran, suitable calf,

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Allah subhanho wa Taala says Wilma ot terminal en mi Illa kalila.

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We've only given you a just a minuscule little bit of knowledge.

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And so with that little

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knowledge, how does Allah describe the human being? Went loves to

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argue, right? Little bit of knowledge, but based on that

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little bit of knowledge, loves to argue, that's just, you know,

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whether the person, you know, do they know the entirety of the

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other human being they're speaking to do they know their complete

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background? Do they know that this person was abused as a child,

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whatever it might be all the background, the human being loves

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to argue, right? The human being is in haste, what kind of insanity

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are Jhula? Right, that the human being is constantly in a hurry,

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that rat race I was speaking about, that's, you know, something

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that we you know, that things we want things done quickly, and

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immediately. And so now it's just we're always in this rat race,

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this idea of just taking some time out and calming oneself to think

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deeper when someone is in that circle that I was speaking about

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earlier, or that Lauren shammies was speaking about earlier, that

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being caught up in that circle. It's part of the human condition.

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The human being is anxious again, anxiety hum, right? In Al Insana,

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holy, holy call Hulu are indeed the human being is created

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anxious, right, mankind is an ingredient in decrease anxious,

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either Messiah who shall rouges who are, and when some sort of

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evil touches him, right, this goes back to home versus home, what

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sort of evil touches him, he's impatient? Oh, man, this is like

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my world is about to be destroyed, I don't know what's going to

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happen. And all of these, you know, my role has come crumbling

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down. But then what happens when good comes? What either must sell

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hadal Manu, ah, but when that good comes, they withhold it, they get

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greedy with it, right? And such is the human being right little bit

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of knowledge, and making conclusions arguing argumentative,

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you know, being impatient, being anxious, withholding good, you

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know, being very impatient when evil touches the human being, the

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human being is complex, right?

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Okay, so coming to these two, these two concepts, we're talking

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about Tao of functionalism. So a functional approach to the Dow

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addresses a human being with, with a mind that functions as a series

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of inputs and outputs. So it basically approach the human being

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as a computer. What's the assumption here, the assumption

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is, is that Dow is based on abstract rational arguments, and

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that they are sufficient to produce the results. Alright, so

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it's similar to an algorithm. So you have these, you know,

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algorithms that you basically put out. And so the, or you have

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algorithms, you know, much like how the internet works today,

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right? There's a series of algorithms. And that's how they

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kind of give a,

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an avatar. So social media works by making avatars. And then they

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basically look at your your, your, your buying preferences, where do

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you live? What is your age?

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You know, what is your political affiliation? What are your some of

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your opinions, and all of that data, data is gathered together.

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And then there is an avatar that's created, so and so therefore, and

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then you have algorithms, you have information that comes together

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with this avatar, to then target you as a human being. But this is

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a very good, cold cerebral approach.

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And much of the time when we are inviting people to Islam, our

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approach is very similar, right? So this approach fails to address

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the human in a holistic way. Human beings are not only rational. In

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fact, there are a dynamic interplay between emotions,

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psychology, cognitive faculties, you know, and I would add to that

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spirituality were psycho spiritual, emotive beings.

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Let's compare that now looking at that and comparing them

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juxtaposing that with Tao holism that will holism and holistic

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approach to the Dawa, that addresses the human being, as he

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is, as the human being is, Allah knows the human being better than

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we know, the human being, right. So we created us. That being said,

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we understand that the human being has an intellect, it has a heart,

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it has a fitrah as we'll get into in a second, it has enough a body

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a rule, and so on, so forth. Okay. So, let's now start. So if that's

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the case, if we understand that, that, that the human being is a

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complex interplay of emotions and psycho spiritual states, and

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culture and background, and cognition, so I don't want to, you

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know, basically say that cognition has no part to play. Obviously,

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the human being has cognitive faculties. And using those

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cognitive faculties will become very important, especially when we

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get to the end of today's live seminar. And we speak about the

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various understandings of spiritual experiences, because we

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can't just do away with cognition, but at the same time, we cannot

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just hyper focus on cognition itself with and leave off

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For the rest of the of the of the human, emotive psychospiritual

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interplay. So let's let's take a brief look at the human being and

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I say brief because we have covered a lot of these topics and

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other

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other courses that that are that are available on YouTube, and

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other sapient thoughts series that I know myself I've done. So I'm

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going to briefly look at the construct of the human being to

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give us a good idea about what is the human being, right what what

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do we mean by the human being from an Islamic paradigm. So the first

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thing we understand, the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa

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sallam said mobbin mo looting Illa EULA do Al and Phaedra. There is

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no child that is born except that they are born upon the fitrah his

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parents then make him a Jew, a Christian or Meijin. As an animal

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delivers a child with limbs intact, do you detect any flaw?

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And so one of the first things we understand about the human being

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when we're speaking about what are he was the human right? You can

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even say that we're talking about the anthropology, not

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anthropology, as we understand it in Western academia, but who are

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what is the human? So from that perspective, understand, one of

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the first things is that every single human being is born upon

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the fitrah. Now, what do we mean by the term fitrah. So if you've

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heard,

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you know, any sort of talks or live streams from Sapiens, you

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know, you know, and if you've been following Sapiens, you know, that

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we speak about this very often. So that's why I don't spend too much

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time on it. But for purposes of today's live stream, I'm just

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gonna present a working definition, I've actually

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presented this in a lot more detail in in the sapient thought

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series called The Human Project. So if you'd like more information,

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you can you can check it out there. But for today's for today's

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purposes, the working definition will say is the original, what is

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the fitrah it is the original normative disposition, and I'm

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using three words their original normative disposition. So the

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first what this hadith tells us is that it is original it is the

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original way in which Allah created the human being, the term

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fitrah is what we call an Israel here in terms of if you study

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Arabic grammar, which signifies how something is or the way

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something is, so you have similar terms like you have obviously

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fifth or up you have a Hilda the way something is created Jinsol

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the way the sitting how someone sits or the sitting or the

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gathering, then you have the one that many Muslims are familiar

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with Qibla the way you turn the direction, you turn, Qibla fitrah,

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you know, Giemsa, Hilkiah, and so on. So these terms are about the

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way the original state and the original normative disposition. So

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here what we're saying when we're looking at the Hadith of the

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Prophet Salam, that originally This is how Allah subhanaw taala

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created the human being was upon the fitrah it is an original

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state. Okay. Second, so we talked about original, original normative

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disposition. Allah subhanho wa Taala says for us in what Hagel it

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Dini Hanifa, so direct your face towards the religion inclining to

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truth hear, Hanifa or Hanif, it's just it's this idea of inclining

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towards the truth. The term Hanif it's a bit difficult to translate.

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And then Allah says, fifth Allah Hill, Lady Fatima, Nas Alia, it is

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the fitrah, right of the fitrah of Allah, the fitrah, that Allah

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subhanho wa Taala created all people. And then Allah says lattre

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de la, de la, there is no change, no change, there'll be the

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creation of Allah. In other words, this

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this state are this original, primordial state of the human

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being, that it doesn't, it cannot be replaced with something

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altogether. So the word here just very quickly, for those who might

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be interested, the word here is the V. So had the word been to

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hear in other words, to change that, we would say that the fitrah

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itself cannot be changed cannot be corrupted. But the deal means to

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take something and completely replace it. And so therefore, the

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fitrah there can be changed. It can be affected as we're going to

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see it can be clouded, but it can never be completely replaced.

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There's no Wi Fi in the hulk of Allah, right. It's not the deal in

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the federal. So. So this is the way that Allah created the human

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being, like I said, the fifth, right, the self, the term itself

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is is Malaya which means you know, it is the way the direction how

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Allah created something. The second term there, which I

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mentioned, was normative. And when we say normative, what we're

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speaking about, here, we can we can compare it to the term

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descriptive. Okay,

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Okay, so just bear with me for a minute. When we talk about

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something normative, we're saying how something should be, how, how

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is it in, let's say, reality? What is the normal way of understanding

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something? Descriptive is how others may describe that

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particular thing. So if we, let's say, we want to take a normative

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understanding of Islam. It's basically how Islam describes

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itself. What does Islam say about itself? If we want to take a

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descriptive understanding of Islam, that would mean, well,

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let's present Islam to someone in let's say, Midland, Texas, and

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what is their perception of Islam? They may say, oh, you know, Islam

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is just a whole bunch of rules. And there's people that, you know,

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that commit terrorist acts or whatever it might be, that's a

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descriptive way of looking at it. But what does Islam say about

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itself? What is the normative normal understanding, right? So

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you have normative, that which is kind of the the reality or kind of

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the normal way something is, and then you have that which is away

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from that. So the way the human being is, as it was originally

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created to be the normative state, right, as it is, as Allah created

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it, this is the second part of our definition. So the original

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normative, and then we'll move on to the third point. And that is

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disposition. So in other words, there's a certain disposition that

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the human being has, that there's, it was original, it's normative as

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it should be, right? And by the way, this term, just to maybe

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elucidate it a little more. The term normative is quite prevalent

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in our current culture as well, at least within current Western

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culture, when we are dealing with

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you know, things like gender issues, things like the LGBTQ

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issues and things like that, because they speak about

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normative. So if you said your sis normative, for instance, sis

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normative means that you believe that there are two genders you

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believe that is normal, that is the normative normal way that the

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human being is that there are two genders. Similarly, you may say

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that you are heteronormative, you believe that the normal state of

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the human being is one of heterosexuality, as opposed to

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homosexuality, and so on and so forth. So from that perspective,

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it just kind of elucidates the point of what we mean by

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normative, the normal way in which Allah subhanaw taala created, and

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that normal way has a disposition. Now, there's two main views

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related to this particular disposition. And that is, number

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one, that this fitrah it contains primary inborn knowledge of

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Allah's existence, and that he deserves to be worshipped, right.

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And it includes some basic morals as well, that we are born with

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this right. The second opinion amongst our theologians is that

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the fitrah does not contain knowledge itself. But it contains

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the you can say it is the means by which you can get to knowledge and

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you can get to truth, it directs one towards the truth, right?

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There's a potency that one has that's disposed towards a

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recognition of Allah, and that he alone is worthy of worship. So the

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fitrah itself has a potency within it to recognize God and a

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propensity or that it's primed to worship Allah subhanho wa Taala

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alone. So now, whichever opinion one takes, we can understand that

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that fitrah your original normative disposition,

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when it comes to, you know, the the world that we live in, when it

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comes to modernity, when it comes to being brought up in a household

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that's, let's say, have a different worldview, this fitrah

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can become clouded. And so when that hitter has clouded, you find

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that the objective of the person of the one who's interested in

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guiding the person back to the truth is to deal with those clouds

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to remove those clouds, to have the person that they've moved away

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from that original normative disposition, and bring them back

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to that true normative original normative disposition that

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primordial state of theirs. That is true and how Allah subhanaw

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taala. How Allah subhanho wa Taala created the human being. So how is

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this done? What is the process by which we do this and this is at

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its core, this is what Tao is about. This is what you know,

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helping someone find the truth is about it's about unclouded, the

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fifth. So, that being said, there are a number of ways that one can

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uncover the Phaedra right, one of those is revelation, being exposed

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to the Quran, being exposed to the beauty of the Quran, the you know,

00:39:50 --> 00:39:54

the auditory beauty of the Quran, the cadence of the Quran, the

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words of the Quran, the deeper meanings of the Quran, reflecting

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upon the Quran, and so on and so forth.

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or even just the, you know, the acoustics of the Quran can also

00:40:04 --> 00:40:08

have a an effect on removing the clouds or removing these types of

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clouds on the fitrah rational arguments. And this becomes really

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important. So when really important when we're speaking

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about Dow holism versus Dow or functionalism, rational arguments,

00:40:19 --> 00:40:22

again, we're not just throwing them on the side, but we're saying

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they are not. They are a way to remove the clouds upon the federal

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right one of but it's not the end all and be all right. So rational

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arguments, we're not putting them aside, but they can be a means to

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removing the removing the clouds upon the federal spiritualities.

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What we're going to be speaking about today are spiritual

00:40:44 --> 00:40:48

experiences, one's character, how you approach the person speaking

00:40:48 --> 00:40:52

to critical thinking, how a person can, you know, kind of think

00:40:52 --> 00:40:56

critically about things, experiences, experiencing the

00:40:56 --> 00:40:59

natural world experiencing beauty, positive experiences, negative

00:40:59 --> 00:41:05

experiences, and so on. All of that can be ways to unclouded

00:41:05 --> 00:41:09

fitrah. And the reason these clouds come upon the fifth route,

00:41:09 --> 00:41:12

or the barriers come upon the fifth, or the fifth rise is kind

00:41:12 --> 00:41:15

of moved from its original normative disposition to somewhere

00:41:15 --> 00:41:19

else. The reason that happens a lot, you know, there's a number of

00:41:19 --> 00:41:22

reasons. So number one, it can be one's upbringing, one's

00:41:22 --> 00:41:25

environment, it can also be sins, as we're going to see when we

00:41:26 --> 00:41:28

speak about the ontology of the soul. And there's a number of

00:41:28 --> 00:41:33

reasons these clouds for point being is that one of the ways in

00:41:33 --> 00:41:37

which these clouds can be taken off that you can guide a person or

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help someone find the truth is by spiritual experiences, is by

00:41:42 --> 00:41:47

understanding spirituality and, and inviting people to experience

00:41:47 --> 00:41:52

certain spiritual practices, and also giving the person an

00:41:52 --> 00:41:54

explanation of spiritual experiences that they've had,

00:41:54 --> 00:41:59

which may be an alternative to the explanation that they think is

00:42:01 --> 00:42:04

that they think is the correct explanation, and we'll get into

00:42:04 --> 00:42:08

that a little bit later. Okay, so let's start off with this. What is

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Islamic spirituality?

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All right, so now

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I wanted to ask you guys make it somewhat interactive. If someone

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asked you what is Islamic spirituality? What would you say?

00:42:22 --> 00:42:26

Give me some on YouTube here. What are some of the

00:42:27 --> 00:42:30

what like, how do you define Islamic spirituality? Someone

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says, Okay, does Islam have spirituality? What What does Islam

00:42:33 --> 00:42:37

say about spirituality? What do you think? smuggler?

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Maybe I

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So

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that's very good. As you someone hit the nail right on the head.

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I'm not gonna say who. But all you guys are you guys have the right

00:43:05 --> 00:43:09

idea. Definitely. Right. So the person who said the right thing,

00:43:10 --> 00:43:12

they're gonna find out in a few minutes that they will write

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Sharla

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Okay, so let's take a look, what is Islamic spirituality? What do

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we mean by that? Now, start with spirituality, just very briefly.

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It's something that's defined by the Prophet SAW Selim himself in

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the very famous hadith of Gibreel, and Islam.

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If you remember that it's very extensive. So I'm not going to go

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into the entire Hadith. And nor am I going to get into a deep

00:43:39 --> 00:43:44

explanation of the Hadith. But we understand that in this what many

00:43:44 --> 00:43:47

scholars would would consider a foundational Hadith.

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The Prophet says salam expounds upon three things, Islam, Iman,

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and so on. So just briefly, you know, the Hadith, and it's got

00:43:58 --> 00:44:02

various narrators, and you know, and anyway, so, the Hadith

00:44:02 --> 00:44:05

mentions that someone comes into a gathering where the companions are

00:44:05 --> 00:44:08

sitting with the process, alum, this person is wearing white

00:44:08 --> 00:44:11

clothing, black hair, comes right up to the process and walks up to

00:44:11 --> 00:44:15

the Prophet and salaam sits down puts his hands on the legs or the

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thighs of the process. So it starts asking questions. And so

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one of those questions is above the knee and none Islam. Tell me

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about Islam, the process that I'm expounds upon the five pillars of

00:44:26 --> 00:44:30

Islam, as we know, right, and so again, I'm not going to get into

00:44:30 --> 00:44:34

too many details. And then the person says set up you spoken the

00:44:34 --> 00:44:37

truth. And then the narrator, one of the narrators are willing to

00:44:37 --> 00:44:40

help Bob says I found it very strange that he's asking the

00:44:40 --> 00:44:44

question and yet he's saying that you're right. And then God Larry

00:44:44 --> 00:44:49

salaam asked the process that I'm about Eman, a Bernie handle Eman.

00:44:49 --> 00:44:52

Tell me about Eman the process. I mentioned the Six Pillars of human

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right to believe in Allah, the angels, the prophets, the books

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and so on and so forth. Okay, and then again, Jeffrey Are you know

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the

00:45:00 --> 00:45:04

person says, so that you've spoken the truth. And then he asks him

00:45:04 --> 00:45:09

about it ask the process tell him about Ehsaan tell me about SN what

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is Ehsaan. And the Prophet SAW Selim says that our son is to

00:45:13 --> 00:45:18

worship Allah as if you see him for even though you do not see

00:45:18 --> 00:45:22

him, you know that he sees you Okoma called Salah Salem. And so,

00:45:22 --> 00:45:26

when we speak about Islamic spirituality, we see that it's in

00:45:26 --> 00:45:31

this area of what we would call asana and Asana Asana is quite,

00:45:31 --> 00:45:34

it's a quite as a very deep concept, but let's try to at least

00:45:34 --> 00:45:38

scratch the surface inshallah. So we'll start before we get to

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Essen. Let's start with a concept of iman first. Okay, Eman. If we

00:45:44 --> 00:45:47

look at the etymology of the word, where the word comes from, what is

00:45:47 --> 00:45:50

the background of the word what is the source of the word, it comes

00:45:50 --> 00:45:54

from the try ladder Amazona. And so when we go to like, Lane's

00:45:54 --> 00:45:56

lexicon yet again,

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I'm gonna refers to him if he was or became or felt secure, safe in

00:46:02 --> 00:46:07

the state of security, or safety. Originally, he was or became

00:46:07 --> 00:46:13

quiet, tranquil in heart or mind. So I want us to take a moment here

00:46:13 --> 00:46:18

and think about that for a second. When we look at the word Eman, we

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understand that Eman is this internal, what we may call belief,

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right? Even though belief is a very loose translation, which I'm

00:46:26 --> 00:46:30

not very fond of, but it has to do with things about like, obviously,

00:46:30 --> 00:46:33

the six pillars of belief, right? believing in Allah, the angels,

00:46:33 --> 00:46:37

the books, and so on, so forth. But from a linguistic point of

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view, when we look at the etymology of the word, we see that

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it comes from this idea of stability, security, tranquility,

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and peace. When we were speaking about the concept of hemp, the

00:46:50 --> 00:46:56

concept of this disquietude, this anxiety, what we find is that what

00:46:56 --> 00:47:01

Eman does is it's giving the appropriate medicine for that.

00:47:01 --> 00:47:07

Right it exactly what Iman is, is to take away How is to settle hum,

00:47:07 --> 00:47:10

it's just it's to get you know, is to take that person that's in that

00:47:10 --> 00:47:14

state, that they're you know that they have the state of anxiety,

00:47:14 --> 00:47:18

they have the state of you know, that they're disquieted

00:47:19 --> 00:47:26

and so on, and gives and kind of solves that issue. Right. So, Eman

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is a person when they have this Iman, when they have this type of

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internal belief.

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The six pillars of the process that I mentioned, and what we

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understand about Iman, you find that there is a type of

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tranquility and peace that enters into the human being. Now that

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tranquility and peace could be due to understanding deeper

00:47:48 --> 00:47:53

existential questions. Why am I here? Where am I going? And, you

00:47:53 --> 00:47:56

know, how did I get here? Right? So, you know, how did I get here?

00:47:56 --> 00:47:59

Like, what is my purpose? What will you know? Why did why do I

00:47:59 --> 00:48:02

exist? The ad having the answers those questions, and having

00:48:02 --> 00:48:06

emailed those answers gives one a sense of stability, a sense of

00:48:06 --> 00:48:11

security, a sense of tranquility. Thus, when someone is faced with,

00:48:11 --> 00:48:14

let's say, challenges in one's life, where we move from home to

00:48:14 --> 00:48:19

them, you find that they can deal with those challenges in a way

00:48:19 --> 00:48:24

that a person that does not have that emotion, can can deal with,

00:48:24 --> 00:48:28

right. So, you know, imagine what it does is it gives a sense of

00:48:28 --> 00:48:32

stability, security, safety, tranquility and peace. And really

00:48:32 --> 00:48:36

the whole idea of spirituality itself has to do with this idea of

00:48:36 --> 00:48:40

tranquility and peace. Okay. So when we say Eman, we say we're

00:48:40 --> 00:48:44

talking about tranquility, peace, security, safety, all this kind of

00:48:44 --> 00:48:49

spiritual, you know, in the spiritual notion of peace and

00:48:49 --> 00:48:53

tranquility. But it's not limited to just a spiritual notion of

00:48:53 --> 00:48:58

peace and tranquility. And this is where the distinguishing quality

00:48:58 --> 00:49:02

of Islam comes up the single cost distinguishing quality of Islam as

00:49:02 --> 00:49:07

a worldview. In other words, you have your modern gurus, whether

00:49:07 --> 00:49:10

you're talking about Sadhguru, whether you're talking about, you

00:49:10 --> 00:49:14

know, Tony Robbins, or you know, whoever it may be, that what

00:49:14 --> 00:49:18

they're trying to do is they're trying to give this umunna This

00:49:18 --> 00:49:23

state of peace and security by various means, you know, by, you

00:49:23 --> 00:49:26

know, giving them hopefulness about the future and, you know,

00:49:26 --> 00:49:29

you can conquer it all and so on and so forth. But where the

00:49:29 --> 00:49:33

Islamic paradigm the Islamic worldview differs, is that when we

00:49:33 --> 00:49:37

think of Eman, it's not just this spiritual type of stability, peace

00:49:37 --> 00:49:42

and tranquility. But it's it's a much deeper type of peace,

00:49:42 --> 00:49:45

tranquility, security and safety. And what do I mean?

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When we think about it, it's two types of stability and tranquility

00:49:51 --> 00:49:57

and peace. You have that spiritual stability that spiritual

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tranquility and peace, but you also have a rash

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component. So remember, I was saying that we, while our approach

00:50:04 --> 00:50:07

should not be Tao of functionalism, where we're now

00:50:07 --> 00:50:10

looking at the human being as a robot, but we cannot be devoid of

00:50:10 --> 00:50:15

rationality either, right? It must work in tandem. Because imagine

00:50:15 --> 00:50:20

someone that they now feel like, so for instance, I was watching a

00:50:20 --> 00:50:23

certain YouTube video, and someone was asking about how Christian

00:50:23 --> 00:50:26

spirituality helped them. And, you know, the person was mentioning

00:50:26 --> 00:50:29

that, you know, I used to be, I used to be very addicted to to a

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certain drug. And, you know, and I would constantly need this drug.

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And so, every time I would take this drug every time I would, I

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think it was mentioning heroin, I would get this warm feeling. But I

00:50:42 --> 00:50:45

kept on needing it over and over and over again, until I found

00:50:45 --> 00:50:51

Jesus. And then that warm feeling that blanket that I needed, was

00:50:51 --> 00:50:58

just Jesus right now, from that person's experience, we understand

00:50:58 --> 00:51:01

that he experienced that, like, one of the things is we're not

00:51:01 --> 00:51:04

going to deny that individual's experience, we're not going to

00:51:04 --> 00:51:08

say, oh, you know, that experience itself is wrong, or that

00:51:08 --> 00:51:13

experience is fake. But the perp The point is, is that what is the

00:51:13 --> 00:51:17

interpretation of that experience? Was it Jesus? Was it Allah

00:51:17 --> 00:51:20

subhanaw? taala? What was the interpretation? And how do you

00:51:20 --> 00:51:24

tell which interpretation a person is going to make of that

00:51:24 --> 00:51:28

experience? That's very real, that we do not deny? How are we going

00:51:28 --> 00:51:31

to understand it? What what is the other aspect that you need to

00:51:31 --> 00:51:35

this, and that's where rational stability comes in. Because you

00:51:35 --> 00:51:39

could have that spiritual experience. And you experienced

00:51:39 --> 00:51:44

it, it's very real. But let's say the rational aspect of, you know,

00:51:44 --> 00:51:48

the Trinity, for instance, that's going to cause instability, it's

00:51:48 --> 00:51:51

going to be you know, you're gonna have disquietude, from that

00:51:51 --> 00:51:54

perspective, a rational perspective. And so, you know, you

00:51:54 --> 00:51:56

can take it and put it in a box called, you know, unsolved

00:51:56 --> 00:52:00

problems, and lock it away and hanging in abeyance. The problem

00:52:00 --> 00:52:04

is, it's still there, though. And so are you really stable, from the

00:52:04 --> 00:52:08

point of view of like what we said, I'm gonna do having that

00:52:08 --> 00:52:11

stability and having that true, deeper peace and deeper

00:52:11 --> 00:52:16

tranquility. So when we talk about Iman, we say that it's related to

00:52:16 --> 00:52:19

the term or comes from the term Amana which has to do with not

00:52:19 --> 00:52:23

only spiritual tranquility, but also has to do with rational

00:52:23 --> 00:52:26

stability, and this is going to be very important moving forward.

00:52:26 --> 00:52:29

Okay. So that being said.

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So I just wanted to actually highlight that this concept of

00:52:36 --> 00:52:40

rationality and spirituality, you find this throughout our

00:52:40 --> 00:52:46

tradition, throughout the Islamic sources. And so when we look at

00:52:46 --> 00:52:49

the Quran, for instance, you find whenever Allah subhanho wa Taala

00:52:49 --> 00:52:53

mentions knowledge and I would urge you to look through the Quran

00:52:53 --> 00:52:57

and see for yourself, whenever Allah subhanaw taala mentions the

00:52:57 --> 00:53:01

icon, or mentions knowledge or mentions, you know, knowing

00:53:01 --> 00:53:05

something that mentions epistemological principles or

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something of this nature, you will always find something connected to

00:53:09 --> 00:53:14

spirituality around the idea or within the eye itself. So a very

00:53:14 --> 00:53:18

famous idea that's usually quoted in books. You know, so for

00:53:18 --> 00:53:23

instance, books about like Kitab Al Imam Al Ghazali, mentioned

00:53:23 --> 00:53:27

this, actually, there's a catabolism by Sheikh Hussein Amin

00:53:27 --> 00:53:30

as well who also mentioned this, and they mentioned this very idea

00:53:30 --> 00:53:34

that you see on the screen, but they mentioned part of the ayah

00:53:35 --> 00:53:37

the part that they mentioned, because their speed, their focus

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is on knowledge. They mentioned the last part of the * yes, the

00:53:41 --> 00:53:45

will Edina Yala Moon will lead in the lion lagoon is the one who

00:53:45 --> 00:53:50

knows equal to the one who doesn't know. But you see, right before

00:53:50 --> 00:53:55

that in the very same ayah Allah subhanho wa Taala mentions

00:53:55 --> 00:53:58

something else that's as if it's kind of coupling two things

00:53:58 --> 00:54:02

together. Allah subhanho wa Taala says a man who according to Allah

00:54:02 --> 00:54:06

in Layli, Sajid and we're all human and you know, is the one who

00:54:06 --> 00:54:11

is on it or devoutly obedient and not in lelee You know, throughout

00:54:11 --> 00:54:15

the night Saj that walk Iman standing, sorry prostrating and

00:54:15 --> 00:54:19

standing right so is the one who's devoutly obedient you know, at

00:54:19 --> 00:54:21

night to standing in prostrating?

00:54:24 --> 00:54:30

He's caught human. Yeah, through akhira is hoping or sorry, he's

00:54:30 --> 00:54:33

fearing the hereafter. Actually, the translations right there. He's

00:54:33 --> 00:54:38

fairly well you have to do Rama to rugby, and he's fearing or sorry,

00:54:38 --> 00:54:41

is hoping in the Mercy of Allah subhanho wa Taala mercy of his

00:54:41 --> 00:54:45

Lord. Okay. So in other words, is the one who is devoutly obedient,

00:54:45 --> 00:54:48

standing and prostrating a night all right.

00:54:50 --> 00:54:54

You know, a fearful of the Hereafter the consequences of

00:54:54 --> 00:54:57

their morality and moral actions and things like that. Well, you

00:54:57 --> 00:54:59

got to do Ramadan, rugby and hope

00:55:00 --> 00:55:04

Paying for the mercy of their Lord? Is that person equivalent to

00:55:04 --> 00:55:07

the one who doesn't do this? And then Allah says holiest they will

00:55:07 --> 00:55:11

live in a yellow moon or land. Well leadin Allah, Allah Moon is

00:55:11 --> 00:55:14

the one who knows, equivalent to the one who doesn't know. In other

00:55:14 --> 00:55:18

words, you have a spiritual reality. These are all spiritual

00:55:18 --> 00:55:22

concepts, spiritual acts, for instance, and both external acts

00:55:22 --> 00:55:27

and internal acts. So the first part Amma who was a man who upon

00:55:27 --> 00:55:30

it on Anna, Lady side, in the Mocha Iman, the one who's

00:55:30 --> 00:55:33

standing, the one who's prostrating and standing, these

00:55:33 --> 00:55:38

are physical acts, but these are physical, spiritual acts. And then

00:55:38 --> 00:55:43

you have internal acts. Yeah, little akhira fearing that's an

00:55:43 --> 00:55:47

internal state of the heart that you understand you as a human

00:55:47 --> 00:55:50

being that you fall short. And you have, you know, certain things

00:55:50 --> 00:55:53

that you didn't you know, you didn't you weren't the best in and

00:55:53 --> 00:55:55

you didn't worship Allah as you should have worshipped and so on

00:55:55 --> 00:55:58

and so forth. So you have a feat you're fearful, you wronged the

00:55:58 --> 00:56:01

person, all those things come inside that person's heart, this

00:56:01 --> 00:56:05

internal spiritual state, yeah, through Africa, that you're

00:56:05 --> 00:56:09

fearing the hereafter. Well, you got to do Ramadan rugby, and that

00:56:09 --> 00:56:14

you're hopeful for the Mercy of Allah subhanho wa taala. Those are

00:56:14 --> 00:56:18

all spiritual aspects, all spiritual acts, and spiritual,

00:56:18 --> 00:56:21

emotional, spiritual, psycho spiritual states

00:56:23 --> 00:56:28

that Allah ties with knowledge. So again, what the reason I'm

00:56:28 --> 00:56:30

bringing this up, and we can see this over and over again, the

00:56:30 --> 00:56:34

Prophet SAW Selim says, there's a dua that process and teaches you

00:56:34 --> 00:56:38

says, Hola. Hola, como, una de bah? Well, I didn't know Bartylla

00:56:38 --> 00:56:42

Bartylla or established Inaba, oh, Allah show me truth as truth. Here

00:56:42 --> 00:56:45

we go, talking about truth, knowledge, rationality, whatever

00:56:45 --> 00:56:48

it might show me truth as truth and allow me to follow it. Let me

00:56:48 --> 00:56:52

follow it and show me falsehood as falsehood and keep me away from

00:56:52 --> 00:56:57

it. Obama calls for SLM. But interestingly enough, it's a DUA,

00:56:58 --> 00:57:03

he's asking Allah for that there's a spiritual component, dua is, you

00:57:03 --> 00:57:08

know, a spiritual act that's both, you know, an act external and an

00:57:08 --> 00:57:11

internal act, and so on and so forth. There's many examples that,

00:57:11 --> 00:57:14

you know, we don't really have the time to expound upon all of them.

00:57:14 --> 00:57:19

The point being, is that when it comes to one, understanding Iman,

00:57:19 --> 00:57:24

that there is a deep connection between rational stability and

00:57:24 --> 00:57:28

spiritual tranquility, and these are constantly connected in our

00:57:28 --> 00:57:31

tradition in the Quran and in the Sunnah, and so on and so forth.

00:57:31 --> 00:57:33

So, now moving on.

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So we talked about Iman, we talked about that sort of internal

00:57:39 --> 00:57:42

tranquility, stability on a rational level on a spiritual

00:57:42 --> 00:57:46

level. So now let's speak about kind of the crux of the matter,

00:57:46 --> 00:57:48

and that is exon.

00:57:50 --> 00:57:54

So the term itself as son, just very quickly, it comes from the

00:57:54 --> 00:57:59

trilateral route, try literal route Hashanah, which means good

00:57:59 --> 00:58:04

or to beautify. And you can you can compare it to the term. Jamil,

00:58:04 --> 00:58:07

for instance, because Jimena is another word that is used in in

00:58:07 --> 00:58:10

Arabic to say that something is beautiful, right? So if you want

00:58:10 --> 00:58:14

to say something nice to your wife, you can say Auntie Jamila,

00:58:14 --> 00:58:16

right, and I encourage all the husbands to say that to their

00:58:16 --> 00:58:23

wives, the law, right. So the concept of but generally, when we

00:58:23 --> 00:58:26

talk about the term Hasson and we talk about and we compare to the

00:58:26 --> 00:58:27

term Jamil

00:58:28 --> 00:58:33

something is, you know, that's, that's beautiful versus beautiful

00:58:33 --> 00:58:36

of a nature that's, that's these are two different concepts. All

00:58:36 --> 00:58:40

right now, how the different The term has done, not only talks not

00:58:40 --> 00:58:45

only refers to like an external beauty, but would also refer to an

00:58:45 --> 00:58:49

internal beauty. So it's not only just beauty of

00:58:50 --> 00:58:54

like a physical beauty, one that is seen one that is delightful to

00:58:54 --> 00:58:58

the eyes, but it also refers to a beauty that's deeper inside a

00:58:58 --> 00:59:03

person, right? So that beauty can come from a good moral character

00:59:03 --> 00:59:07

of a person. The person is truthful and honest, and loving

00:59:07 --> 00:59:11

and caring. And so this person has has had like, their their hassle,

00:59:11 --> 00:59:14

right? They're just they're beautiful inside and out. Yeah.

00:59:16 --> 00:59:21

And so that's why the concept of s Sun can also refer to excellence,

00:59:21 --> 00:59:24

that that x, that there's a spiritual excellence, and the

00:59:24 --> 00:59:29

spiritual excellence has to do with the very idea of that you're

00:59:29 --> 00:59:34

not only that you have this not only this external beauty, that's

00:59:34 --> 00:59:39

manifest when that internal spiritual struggle is kind of is

00:59:39 --> 00:59:42

constantly happening. You're constantly going higher and higher

00:59:42 --> 00:59:47

in, in levels up and closer and closer to Allah, that that becomes

00:59:47 --> 00:59:51

manifest externally. So you see someone and they pray, but when

00:59:51 --> 00:59:57

you see them pray, it's just it's beautiful. Right? But there's

00:59:57 --> 01:00:00

Ehsaan there, right? There's excellence in the

01:00:00 --> 01:00:03

particular prayer or in that particular act of worship, or when

01:00:03 --> 01:00:05

you see a person, you know, they say that that person knew on their

01:00:05 --> 01:00:08

face or whatever it might be, that might be because of the night

01:00:08 --> 01:00:13

prayers, and so on and so forth. So Sn is a concept that is, you

01:00:13 --> 01:00:17

know, it's quite multifaceted in the sense that it's referring to a

01:00:17 --> 01:00:19

type of beauty.

01:00:21 --> 01:00:23

And that's, by the way, that's why you can do axon to other people or

01:00:23 --> 01:00:27

as sound to Allah, right is that you can treat like axon to your

01:00:27 --> 01:00:31

parents, right? That That term is used for that particular for that

01:00:31 --> 01:00:35

particular purpose. And that's why it's multi, it has that ability to

01:00:35 --> 01:00:39

do used in different contexts and in different ways. So, that being

01:00:39 --> 01:00:40

the case,

01:00:42 --> 01:00:45

when we talk about s sun, coming from the point of view of

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spirituality, it includes the concept of beauty, and kindness

01:00:50 --> 01:00:55

and love and so on so forth, right? The type of s sun when the

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Prophet Islam says, it is to worship Allah as if you see him,

01:00:59 --> 01:01:03

for even though you do not see him, he sees you. If that's the

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case, what did the process of mean, to see Allah?

01:01:09 --> 01:01:12

Now, obviously, he says, even though you don't see him, we're

01:01:12 --> 01:01:17

not talking about ocular vision, we're not talking about, you know,

01:01:17 --> 01:01:20

seeing Allah like, like, you can, like you can see something like,

01:01:20 --> 01:01:22

like, you know, I can see the camera or I can see the screen.

01:01:23 --> 01:01:28

But yet the Prophet ism uses that phraseology uses those terms. It's

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to worship Allah as if you can see him. And this is where I wanted to

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move on to the concept of Islamic Spirituality, from understanding

01:01:36 --> 01:01:39

what do we mean by seeing Allah because we're not talking about

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ocular vision, there's something much deeper that we're speaking

01:01:43 --> 01:01:43

about.

01:01:46 --> 01:01:50

Okay, so let's move on to very quickly the ontology of the soul.

01:01:50 --> 01:01:53

And this is when we're going to start speaking about what does it

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mean to to, in a sense, see Allah obviously we don't see Allah. We

01:01:58 --> 01:02:02

only physically see Allah by way of our ocular sensitive boy,

01:02:02 --> 01:02:05

seeing Allah is a phenomena of the Hereafter, none of this dunya

01:02:05 --> 01:02:10

anyway, so I wanted to touch upon the ontology, this soul, very

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briefly from an understanding of what what's known as I had to

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know, and this particular ayah Allah subhanho wa Taala says Allah

01:02:18 --> 01:02:21

who notice Samajwadi will old Allah is the Light of the heavens

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and the earth muzzleloader. He commish cat. The example of his

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light is like a Mischka. Howard. Mischka is like a niche that's in

01:02:31 --> 01:02:34

a wall right so back in the olden days, they would put a lamp in a

01:02:35 --> 01:02:40

kind of an indent in the wall or an engraved indent in the wall to

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basically focus the light so if you have a lamp the light is going

01:02:43 --> 01:02:46

everywhere. If you put it in the in then it's going to focus it in

01:02:46 --> 01:02:52

a certain place, right. So this particular so the example of his

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light is like a niche with which within which is the translation

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says when which is a lamp but really what is speaking about is a

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mitzvah mitzvah comes from the term Saba, which that which means

01:03:05 --> 01:03:10

like morning, it's that which emulates the morning, right? So

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here's spot speaking about the flame, in fact, not about the

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lamp. And we know this because right after that Allah subhanaw

01:03:15 --> 01:03:20

taala says, I'll miss VoWIFI Sujatha that the Misbah is in a

01:03:20 --> 01:03:27

class, okay. And this is a Georgia Sujata to Ghana, Coco, Coco, that

01:03:27 --> 01:03:32

this this zoo, Georgia is like a star. That's a pearly white star.

01:03:32 --> 01:03:38

That's a glittering star, and that it is, it is lit by a tree that is

01:03:38 --> 01:03:44

neither of the east nor the West. Okay? And it's a blessing tree. So

01:03:44 --> 01:03:48

a blessing tree, neither the east nor the West. And Allah subhanho

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wa Taala says, and and the oil that's lighting this flame is

01:03:53 --> 01:03:58

blessed olive oil of a blessed olive tree. And that oil itself,

01:03:58 --> 01:04:03

it's as if it itself is going to catch on fire. Right? So it has a

01:04:03 --> 01:04:07

certain shimmer, a certain shine that if like it could just catch

01:04:07 --> 01:04:11

on fire itself. And then Allah says no, don't Allah, no Light

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upon light, and Allah guys was like, even whomever he wills, and

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Allah presents examples of Thun leanness examples for people.

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And Allah is the knower of all things. So what does this refer

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to? And again, I'm going to move through this relatively quickly.

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So I want you to take a look at this diagram. Okay.

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So when we talk when we're looking at it to note we see that that

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particular flame that was being referred to that is the rule. That

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is the soul that is the spirit of the human being. The glass is

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referring to the heart of the human being the niche right that

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that intense indentation in the wall where you put the lamp, that

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is the the torso, the upper torso of the human being this

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area right here the chest, okay? The olive oil is referring to the

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fitrah, which we spoke about, okay. And when Allah says no run

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Allah node, he's referring to the node of your Rua, which is fueled

01:05:15 --> 01:05:19

by the fitrah. Fueled here, I'm in quotations

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and the light of revelations, new Quran Allah knows, okay, when this

01:05:24 --> 01:05:27

human construct that we've been given an example of by Allah

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subhanaw taala, it's very profound because when we think about the

01:05:31 --> 01:05:35

concept of the rule, it is something that Allah subhanho wa

01:05:35 --> 01:05:38

Taala has created, what we would say x Nilo, in other words, there

01:05:38 --> 01:05:42

are two types of creative processes. So Allah creates by way

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of his AMA, right, by his, you know, whenever He decrees a

01:05:46 --> 01:05:47

matter, whenever he says,

01:05:49 --> 01:05:53

Whenever He decrees a matter, he merely says to a gun for your

01:05:53 --> 01:05:56

call, right? So then it's x Nilo, it happens, it's created out of

01:05:56 --> 01:06:02

nothing, as opposed to other creations that have a time

01:06:02 --> 01:06:06

element. And that there's, let's say, pre existing material that is

01:06:06 --> 01:06:10

used to create a particular beam, right. So for instance, the human

01:06:10 --> 01:06:14

being itself, you have the component of the rules, which as

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Allah subhanho wa Taala says, When the fuck to female who Hey, and

01:06:17 --> 01:06:20

when we breathe, and when we put them, we breathed the spirit into

01:06:20 --> 01:06:24

Adam alayhis, salam, then the we were taught, we told the angels to

01:06:24 --> 01:06:28

prostrate to animal SLR. So there's a component of the rule,

01:06:28 --> 01:06:31

and then this component of the body, in the very famous Hadith

01:06:31 --> 01:06:36

that you can find in, in most Hadith collections, where the

01:06:36 --> 01:06:39

process of mentioned the creation of the baby, you mentioned that

01:06:39 --> 01:06:42

there, the process that I mentioned, this, you know, various

01:06:42 --> 01:06:46

creative stages from Allah, from from alacarte, Mudra, and so on,

01:06:46 --> 01:06:49

so forth, and describe certain number of days, 40 days, and so

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on, and so forth. And that all has a time process. But when it comes

01:06:53 --> 01:06:58

to the rule, it's the angel that comes and puts the rule into the

01:06:58 --> 01:07:01

body, right. So these are two different kinds of

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different kinds of creative processes that are part and parcel

01:07:07 --> 01:07:11

to human being, you have the external body, and you have the

01:07:11 --> 01:07:16

internal Ruach. Now, this external body is just like any other

01:07:16 --> 01:07:20

animal's body, okay? In other words, just like animals have the

01:07:20 --> 01:07:24

desire to eat, to sleep to, to form a cage, and so on and so

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forth. The human being has those as well, that's part of our animal

01:07:29 --> 01:07:33

or bodily constitution, right, our material constitution.

01:07:34 --> 01:07:39

At the same time, because we have a rule that is fueled, again,

01:07:39 --> 01:07:43

fueled by the fitrah, we also have a moral component, we have a

01:07:43 --> 01:07:48

spiritual component, right? So comparing the two, when you look

01:07:48 --> 01:07:52

at the animal kingdom, you don't see a lion, you know, chasing down

01:07:52 --> 01:07:55

on gazelle. And the gazelle says, you know, in the middle of the

01:07:55 --> 01:07:58

chasing stop to the lion and saying, I find what you're doing

01:07:58 --> 01:08:01

morally reprehensible, right, because there's no concept of

01:08:01 --> 01:08:07

morality, when it comes to the animal kingdom, desires, and

01:08:07 --> 01:08:12

their, you know, they basically obey what their desires, tell them

01:08:12 --> 01:08:16

to do. Right. And that's how Allah created them. However, when it

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comes to the human being, there is a Ruhani constitution, there is a

01:08:21 --> 01:08:25

spiritual constitution, in addition to a bodily constitution,

01:08:25 --> 01:08:28

and that Ruhani Constitution, that spiritual constitution is what

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gives the human beings limits, because desires in of themselves

01:08:32 --> 01:08:36

are blind. You know, I mean, a desire is a desire, you have a

01:08:36 --> 01:08:40

desire to eat, or a desire to have marital relations or desire to do

01:08:40 --> 01:08:45

this, that desire itself is blind, what gives it its limitations is

01:08:45 --> 01:08:48

the moral component or the root component for Rouhani component.

01:08:49 --> 01:08:54

So this rule that is an every single human being, it is trying

01:08:54 --> 01:08:56

to connect with Allah subhanaw taala. So you can see this kind of

01:08:56 --> 01:09:01

like an outward force on the heart itself, right. And this outward

01:09:01 --> 01:09:04

force is trying to connect with Allah. And that connection happens

01:09:04 --> 01:09:08

by way of Revelation. So the rule is having this outward push on the

01:09:08 --> 01:09:12

heart, and it can connect with Revelation. However, there is an

01:09:12 --> 01:09:16

opposing force on the heart. And that has to do with one's knifes,

01:09:16 --> 01:09:21

that is related to their desires, their bodily base animal desires,

01:09:21 --> 01:09:25

which is having the opposite push on the heart. And so therefore,

01:09:25 --> 01:09:30

you find that the heart is constantly in a state of motion,

01:09:30 --> 01:09:35

right? That's why the heart is known as the earlobe it is always

01:09:35 --> 01:09:38

in the state of overturning right? Allah you can label right like to

01:09:38 --> 01:09:43

overturn. In fact, the word for revolution. In Arabic, one of the

01:09:43 --> 01:09:48

words for revolution is in the lab to overturn right. So the heart is

01:09:48 --> 01:09:51

always in the state and even the physical heart is always in a

01:09:51 --> 01:09:54

state of motion, right always beating. And so the heart is

01:09:54 --> 01:09:58

sometimes expanding, contracting, expanding, contracting, right. And

01:09:58 --> 01:09:59

so to is the spiritual heart

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because you have this outward push by the rule, and then you have

01:10:03 --> 01:10:07

this kind of, you know, external factors that are pushing upon the

01:10:07 --> 01:10:10

heart, and that comes from the person's bodily desires or

01:10:10 --> 01:10:14

animalistic desires that that a person has. Now, here's the thing,

01:10:16 --> 01:10:22

there is an effect on the heart. That is that when a person sins,

01:10:23 --> 01:10:26

because remember, we said, what are the things that take a person

01:10:26 --> 01:10:30

away from their original normative disposition? So we said, one is

01:10:30 --> 01:10:33

one's environment. So we can see that right off the bat, the

01:10:33 --> 01:10:38

environment has an impact on you know, your, you know, your your

01:10:38 --> 01:10:42

knifes your bodily desires, your culture, your worldview, if you

01:10:42 --> 01:10:45

think like, you know, sexual relations with anyone, and

01:10:45 --> 01:10:48

everyone is okay, that's going to have an effect on the heart.

01:10:49 --> 01:10:54

Similarly, sins has an effect on the heart. And we know this

01:10:54 --> 01:10:56

because the prophets Islam says that when the son of Adam sinned,

01:10:56 --> 01:11:01

a black.is placed in the heart. So remember, the, in our diagram

01:11:01 --> 01:11:05

here, we said that the heart was the glass that surrounds the the

01:11:05 --> 01:11:08

flame, we attach that to the heart, we said that that was the

01:11:08 --> 01:11:13

heart. Think of that in the sense that if a black dots placed upon a

01:11:13 --> 01:11:17

glass, and you have revelation that's coming in, if enough black

01:11:17 --> 01:11:22

dots are upon this glass, you cannot have the light of the rule,

01:11:22 --> 01:11:26

connecting with the light of revelation. And that's why the

01:11:26 --> 01:11:29

recommendation for many scholars that if you are finding a hard

01:11:29 --> 01:11:33

time connecting with the Quran, or spiritual acts, in general, it's

01:11:33 --> 01:11:39

good time to make doba to clear away those sins, right? Anyhow. So

01:11:39 --> 01:11:40

that being the case, we have,

01:11:42 --> 01:11:45

we have an understanding, hopefully, I'll be in a bit

01:11:45 --> 01:11:49

briefly of the human constitution, the ontology of the soul, okay.

01:11:50 --> 01:11:52

Now, let's come back to the concept of worshipping Allah as if

01:11:52 --> 01:11:57

you see him, right, because this idea of the rule, and its

01:11:57 --> 01:12:02

connection with Revelation, notice, it's not a you're not

01:12:02 --> 01:12:05

watching the revelation. But it's something that's attracting the

01:12:05 --> 01:12:11

heart directly. In fact, the very concept of an idea is a sign. And

01:12:11 --> 01:12:15

so a sign points out something that's already there, right, your

01:12:15 --> 01:12:20

fitrah the raw, you know, that you we already have the truth. Either

01:12:20 --> 01:12:23

we have the disposition for the truth, or we have the truth within

01:12:23 --> 01:12:28

us as knowledge, or perhaps proto knowledge. So that particular

01:12:28 --> 01:12:28

truth.

01:12:29 --> 01:12:33

Like when we think about this particular truth, that it's going

01:12:33 --> 01:12:38

to, it's going to be inclined towards something outside of

01:12:38 --> 01:12:42

itself, like revelation or whatever it might be anyway. So.

01:12:43 --> 01:12:46

So how exactly is it that we worship Allah, even though we

01:12:46 --> 01:12:50

don't see him right, is to see Allah started to worship Allah as

01:12:50 --> 01:12:55

if we see him, because there is the concept of ocular sight. And

01:12:55 --> 01:12:58

then there's a concept of spiritual sight, what we may call

01:12:58 --> 01:13:04

insight. And this comes from the rule itself, it's the ability to

01:13:05 --> 01:13:09

see things right. And Imam Al Ghazali, he says, and this is

01:13:09 --> 01:13:13

where the kind of ties in the concept of Ehsaan and single, you

01:13:13 --> 01:13:16

know, the idea of seeing Allah, He says, Now man is composed of a

01:13:16 --> 01:13:19

body which precedes with ocular vision, what an Arab is called

01:13:19 --> 01:13:24

bustle, and a spirit ruler, and a soul knifes which proceed with

01:13:24 --> 01:13:29

intersite basura. Or we can also say, sapiens, right? Each of these

01:13:29 --> 01:13:33

things has an aspect, and a four, which is either ugly or beautiful,

01:13:34 --> 01:13:37

right? Furthermore, and this is important, why did you mentioned

01:13:37 --> 01:13:41

ugly versus beautiful, because you can see certain things that you

01:13:41 --> 01:13:43

immediately recognize to be ugly or beautiful, that has to do with

01:13:43 --> 01:13:46

ocular sight. But you can also feel certain things. In other

01:13:46 --> 01:13:49

words, your rule will testify to certain things as being ugly or

01:13:49 --> 01:13:54

beautiful, and hence the concept of Ehsaan comes in. So. So he says

01:13:54 --> 01:13:58

that each of the things has an aspect and a form which is either

01:13:58 --> 01:14:02

ugly or beautiful. Furthermore, the soul which proceeds with inner

01:14:02 --> 01:14:07

sight, is of greater worth than the body would cease with ocular

01:14:07 --> 01:14:10

vision. And that's really the point here is that what

01:14:10 --> 01:14:14

spirituality, and what we're talking about here has to do with

01:14:14 --> 01:14:21

something that's deeper and more, more inclined towards a person

01:14:21 --> 01:14:25

kind of seeing the truth. And here I'm thinking in quotation marks,

01:14:25 --> 01:14:28

then something that maybe just distinct discursive reasoning or

01:14:28 --> 01:14:32

something, you can just prove right out of the bat, right. Okay.

01:14:33 --> 01:14:34

So we've taken a look at that.

01:14:36 --> 01:14:38

We've taken a look at the the rule.

01:14:40 --> 01:14:42

One, let me just touch on something just to elucidate the

01:14:42 --> 01:14:48

point. So when we speak about the rule, I'm trying to see how to

01:14:48 --> 01:14:50

express this in the best form.

01:14:54 --> 01:14:57

We're speaking about a a certain

01:14:59 --> 01:15:00

like

01:15:00 --> 01:15:05

Uh, so let's let's take a look at the concept of is that when you

01:15:05 --> 01:15:08

look at, let's say a beautiful sunset,

01:15:10 --> 01:15:14

now, you're gonna, let's say be with with your loved one. And you

01:15:14 --> 01:15:16

might say, Okay, well that's beautiful. Look at that beautiful

01:15:16 --> 01:15:21

sunset. And your loved one imagine they say, that's the ugliest thing

01:15:21 --> 01:15:25

I've ever saw. Prove to me rationally that that is beautiful.

01:15:26 --> 01:15:30

The point is, is that there's no rational proof of that, right?

01:15:30 --> 01:15:35

That's something you kind of sense internally, okay? It's an IO. Now

01:15:35 --> 01:15:41

one of the function of ayat is that it, they are attracted, or

01:15:41 --> 01:15:45

they are, they're targeted towards the fitrah. And so that's why the

01:15:45 --> 01:15:51

natural world can be a sign. The Quran has signs or ayat. And what

01:15:51 --> 01:15:55

a sign does, there's two kinds of functions of a sign two functions

01:15:55 --> 01:15:59

of an IRA. Number one, or two or two phenomena that go together

01:15:59 --> 01:16:04

with an IRA. Number one is that there is no time element. Like

01:16:04 --> 01:16:09

with an IRA, you don't, you know, you're not going to take time to

01:16:09 --> 01:16:13

like ponder upon and then then it's like, okay, now just know, it

01:16:13 --> 01:16:16

happens immediately. Right? That's number one. And number two, it

01:16:16 --> 01:16:19

touches on something that's already there. So to give an

01:16:19 --> 01:16:23

example, I given this abrogating, example many times that is that

01:16:23 --> 01:16:27

Imagine now that, you know, after 1020 years after my graduation

01:16:27 --> 01:16:31

from from college, 1020 years later, I'm unpacking some of my

01:16:31 --> 01:16:35

boxes, and I find my gown, my graduation gown, the one I wore

01:16:35 --> 01:16:39

for my graduation. Now, immediately, when I see the gown,

01:16:40 --> 01:16:42

I'm taken back to the day I graduated.

01:16:43 --> 01:16:47

I remember, you know, the look on my parents face, right? They were

01:16:47 --> 01:16:51

proud. I remember, you know, the place I was sitting, I remember

01:16:51 --> 01:16:54

the fact that my last name starts with a tee. And I had to wait for

01:16:54 --> 01:16:58

200 people before I was able to go up and get my degree, all of those

01:16:58 --> 01:17:00

things come back immediately.

01:17:01 --> 01:17:04

Because of something that was already there, that memory that

01:17:04 --> 01:17:08

that that you know that that that whatever memory was there, and

01:17:08 --> 01:17:13

that gown becomes an idea. So there's no time element. And

01:17:13 --> 01:17:16

there's no information transfer, I didn't just learn something new,

01:17:16 --> 01:17:18

it was something that was already extant it was already there, it

01:17:18 --> 01:17:23

was already present, right. And so to when it comes to the fitrah,

01:17:23 --> 01:17:26

the fitrah, that knowledge or proto knowledge of Allah is

01:17:26 --> 01:17:31

already there. And so when you see an idea, it's not just a rational

01:17:31 --> 01:17:36

argument, that therefore now there is but it has a direct type of

01:17:36 --> 01:17:41

connection. Right? And hence, the rule. And you can say like, by

01:17:41 --> 01:17:45

extension, the fifth truck has a type of perception, that is a

01:17:45 --> 01:17:49

better and greater perception than just ocular perception. And I'm

01:17:49 --> 01:17:52

not sure if I actually expounded upon that, in a way that was

01:17:52 --> 01:17:56

understandable, but hopefully, we can, we can expound upon that more

01:17:56 --> 01:17:59

in the in the q&a, inshallah. But I thought this was very powerful

01:17:59 --> 01:18:04

from Imam Al Ghazali. All right, so we're going on, I want to make

01:18:04 --> 01:18:07

sure that we leave some time open for q&a. Let me give you an

01:18:07 --> 01:18:10

example of a spiritual experience. So all of this, this whole

01:18:10 --> 01:18:13

discussion has to do with when you

01:18:14 --> 01:18:19

are calling someone or inviting someone, to the truth to Islam.

01:18:20 --> 01:18:24

And so one of the ways we can do that is by way of inviting people

01:18:24 --> 01:18:28

to spiritual experiences, or spiritual acts that we may that

01:18:28 --> 01:18:31

someone may do, you know, one of the most popular ones, at least on

01:18:31 --> 01:18:35

colleges, college campuses, here in the US, is the FASTA THON, and

01:18:35 --> 01:18:38

I don't know if you guys have a faster thumb or do faster thorns,

01:18:38 --> 01:18:41

and you know, so non Muslims are always invited to fast with the

01:18:41 --> 01:18:42

Muslims.

01:18:43 --> 01:18:47

But what I find missing in those is that while they may experience

01:18:47 --> 01:18:52

the fast, they may not understand the spiritual significance of the

01:18:52 --> 01:18:58

fast. And usually, when we explain the fast we do it in somewhat of a

01:18:58 --> 01:19:02

superficial way, or a way that doesn't really highlight the

01:19:02 --> 01:19:05

reality of the fasting itself. Right. So an explanation we might

01:19:05 --> 01:19:11

give is, we fast, to feel what it's like to be poor, to increase

01:19:11 --> 01:19:13

us in our compassion.

01:19:14 --> 01:19:19

Yeah, that that is that's one of the outcomes of fasting Inshallah,

01:19:19 --> 01:19:22

although I would argue that sometimes it may be you may have,

01:19:22 --> 01:19:25

you know, you may not have that, that may not be the, the outcome

01:19:25 --> 01:19:29

of fasting because, you know, at the end of the day, when you open

01:19:29 --> 01:19:32

your fast, you have a meal, you have your support system orders,

01:19:32 --> 01:19:35

and Allah knows what, right that are waiting for you. Whereas

01:19:35 --> 01:19:39

someone who's truly poor, does not have that. So yes, while you're

01:19:39 --> 01:19:43

fasting, maybe that might be the experience that you have, and

01:19:43 --> 01:19:47

maybe that would increase your compassion, but there's a deeper

01:19:47 --> 01:19:51

spiritual understanding that one needs to have when they're

01:19:51 --> 01:19:56

fasting, especially if you're coming from a paradigm outside of

01:19:56 --> 01:20:00

Islam. So I wanted to give an example of that. That is the fact

01:20:00 --> 01:20:00

fasting itself.

01:20:03 --> 01:20:06

So, what is the spiritual significance of fasting? Allah

01:20:06 --> 01:20:09

subhanho? wa Taala says yes Aluna Can you rule so here we're talking

01:20:09 --> 01:20:12

about the rule of talking about spirituality, they ask you

01:20:12 --> 01:20:17

concerning the rule called say the rule, a rule, I mean Amanita be

01:20:17 --> 01:20:21

say that the rule it is from the AMA of Allah, the Command of

01:20:21 --> 01:20:25

Allah. Okay. And so one thing we understand that the rule is from

01:20:25 --> 01:20:28

the ambit of Allah from the Command of Allah. And I was

01:20:28 --> 01:20:31

touching upon this a bit earlier, when I was speaking about the

01:20:31 --> 01:20:35

different processes of creation, right. So the rule comes from an

01:20:35 --> 01:20:40

Emer from a command. Okay, what is the command? Right as Allah

01:20:40 --> 01:20:44

subhanaw taala says a suited Bacara. But in a similar way, it

01:20:44 --> 01:20:48

will audit what indicado M run for in NEMA your kulula Who can buy a

01:20:48 --> 01:20:52

coin, that he is the originator. And it's interesting that uses

01:20:52 --> 01:20:56

your buddy or some Awatea because the idea comes from origination

01:20:56 --> 01:21:00

origination out of nothing, right? That's why the term Bidda is an

01:21:00 --> 01:21:03

innovation. Like it wasn't it didn't exist before. And now you

01:21:03 --> 01:21:06

just came up with it. Right. So Allah's But Dr. Sommer Whitesville

01:21:06 --> 01:21:10

aren't he creates out of nothing? And he mentioned what how does

01:21:10 --> 01:21:14

that create a process happen? Right? So he says that either

01:21:14 --> 01:21:17

Cadabra when he decrease a matter, okay?

01:21:18 --> 01:21:22

For innama, your kulula, who can for your call, that in He only

01:21:22 --> 01:21:26

says to it, but in other words, significance, which signifies

01:21:26 --> 01:21:30

exclusivity. But in the Maya kulula, who couldn't for your

01:21:30 --> 01:21:34

call, he merely says to it be. In other words, when you're going to

01:21:34 --> 01:21:38

have a creative process, X Nilo, in other words, creating out of

01:21:38 --> 01:21:42

nothing creating by the amount of Allah, He merely says to a beat,

01:21:42 --> 01:21:46

and it is, in other words, by way of his column by way of His Word.

01:21:47 --> 01:21:53

So the rule is by the command of Allah, and that command happens by

01:21:53 --> 01:21:56

way of God and for your goon the speech of Allah the kalam of

01:21:56 --> 01:21:59

Allah, right. So, that being the case.

01:22:02 --> 01:22:06

So why is that significant? What happens in normal law? Well,

01:22:06 --> 01:22:11

number one, remember, we said that you have an animalistic reality of

01:22:11 --> 01:22:14

bodily material reality, and it has its own desires, and so on and

01:22:14 --> 01:22:19

so forth. And then you have the Wuah. Okay, so the animal body

01:22:19 --> 01:22:22

that Allah subhanaw taala created, remember, we said that it came in

01:22:22 --> 01:22:25

went through a process, and much like animals go through a process,

01:22:25 --> 01:22:28

and so on and so forth. So, and yet the rule that Allah subhanaw

01:22:28 --> 01:22:33

taala puts in the human being is by way of his other. Here's the

01:22:33 --> 01:22:39

thing in Ramadan, it's as if Allah subhanaw taala is saying 11 months

01:22:39 --> 01:22:43

out of the year, you eat and you drink, and you do whatever you

01:22:43 --> 01:22:48

want, right. And if we were to take a horse motif, in other

01:22:48 --> 01:22:51

words, like a, an analogy, based on a horse and a rider, and that's

01:22:51 --> 01:22:57

why this is in the picture, your body, your material body, with its

01:22:57 --> 01:23:01

desires is like the horse. The rule is like the writer, the one

01:23:01 --> 01:23:04

that's riding the horse and trying to control the horse, 11 months

01:23:04 --> 01:23:08

out of the year, the horse because you've been feeding it, like all

01:23:08 --> 01:23:11

the food, right? So when you think about your material body, where

01:23:11 --> 01:23:15

does the food come from? The food comes from where it came from, the

01:23:15 --> 01:23:20

material body was created from Earth, Dean, etc. The body was

01:23:20 --> 01:23:24

created from Earth, it gets its food from the earth, right? So you

01:23:24 --> 01:23:26

know, you're gonna get, you're gonna get vegetables and fruits,

01:23:26 --> 01:23:29

and all that is from an earthly material. So when it needs

01:23:29 --> 01:23:32

sustenance, when it needs support, it's going to be taken from the

01:23:32 --> 01:23:36

place that it came from, which is the earth, right? So it gets its

01:23:36 --> 01:23:39

sustenance from the earth. And so 11 months out of the year, this

01:23:39 --> 01:23:42

horse that has been fed all of them what's out of year, it's

01:23:42 --> 01:23:47

running wild like crazy. Why? Because of the rider perhaps isn't

01:23:47 --> 01:23:52

that strong? Because the rider needs to be strengthened. So how

01:23:52 --> 01:23:56

do you strengthen the rider? Well, you give the rider food from its

01:23:56 --> 01:24:01

source, the writer here being the rule, where does the writer get

01:24:01 --> 01:24:06

its source? Where does the rule get its get its sustenance? From

01:24:06 --> 01:24:11

its source? What is the source? The amount of Allah? And how does

01:24:11 --> 01:24:15

Allah issue around it? How does Allah issue commands, confer your

01:24:15 --> 01:24:19

code by the Kalam? Do we have access to that Kalam? Yeah, the

01:24:19 --> 01:24:23

Quran? So how do you strengthen the writer? It's by way of Quran.

01:24:24 --> 01:24:28

Right? So the Quran member neutron Allah, no Light upon light. So you

01:24:28 --> 01:24:32

strengthen the writer by way of Quran. So what happens in Ramadan,

01:24:33 --> 01:24:37

you take food away from the horse, because you're fasting, and you're

01:24:37 --> 01:24:41

spending the day weakening the horse, and you're spending the

01:24:41 --> 01:24:47

nights in taraweeh strengthening the writer. Right? And so we find

01:24:47 --> 01:24:51

that the very purpose of fasting isn't just to feel how the poor

01:24:51 --> 01:24:54

feel, but rather it has a deep spiritual significance because

01:24:54 --> 01:24:58

it's supposed to elevate. So if we were to say as an example,

01:24:58 --> 01:25:00

inviting someone to feel

01:25:00 --> 01:25:03

asked, it's not only inviting someone to fast but connecting the

01:25:03 --> 01:25:07

idea of fasting spirituality, what is the phenomenon here? What are

01:25:07 --> 01:25:10

we trying to do? Right? When we're fasting, we understand that

01:25:10 --> 01:25:14

there's a bodily component, there's an animalistic reality.

01:25:14 --> 01:25:17

And then there you can say, is an agile angelic reality, right? The

01:25:17 --> 01:25:21

rule and strengthening the rule. And so really highlighting the

01:25:21 --> 01:25:26

concept of that, that dynamic, that interplay between the rule

01:25:26 --> 01:25:30

and the body, and so on, so forth. So one way would be to expose

01:25:30 --> 01:25:34

someone to fasting, right, invite them to fast expose someone to the

01:25:34 --> 01:25:38

Quran, because we understand that the Quran is multifaceted, multi

01:25:38 --> 01:25:45

layered, and not only it's, it's it's not only its wording and the

01:25:45 --> 01:25:48

arguments that it presents, but it's multi layered in the sense

01:25:48 --> 01:25:53

that it's acoustics are something that are attractive to the heart

01:25:53 --> 01:25:56

to the rule, right? Neuronal are no right or left relation, the

01:25:56 --> 01:26:02

light of revelation upon the light of the, the rule. So it's

01:26:02 --> 01:26:06

acoustics are attractive, its meaning is attractive, its

01:26:06 --> 01:26:10

structure is attractive. It's recitation is attractive, the

01:26:10 --> 01:26:13

prayer one does by reciting the Quran is attractive, and so on and

01:26:13 --> 01:26:16

so forth attractive to the rule. So having someone exposed to the

01:26:16 --> 01:26:18

Quran, witnessing the tarawih prayers.

01:26:20 --> 01:26:23

Now, here's the thing, and this is the last point I'll make. So we

01:26:23 --> 01:26:27

spoke about the human being spirituality, hopefully, we gave

01:26:28 --> 01:26:32

a good understanding of Islamic spirituality. Now, what if someone

01:26:32 --> 01:26:36

comes and says, Well, I've had spiritual experiences, up to this,

01:26:37 --> 01:26:41

hopefully, we've now understood that spiritual experiences can you

01:26:41 --> 01:26:46

can have them. But that doesn't mean that will lead to true

01:26:46 --> 01:26:50

spirituality, true. Iman, in a sense, or even as sun, because

01:26:51 --> 01:26:55

axon is based upon Iman, which we said was stability, what kind of

01:26:55 --> 01:26:59

stability, spiritual tranquility and stability, but also rational

01:26:59 --> 01:27:03

stability and security. So if someone says, I've had a spiritual

01:27:03 --> 01:27:07

experience, we're not going to deny that experience. You don't

01:27:07 --> 01:27:09

say like, No, you didn't experience it, because they did.

01:27:09 --> 01:27:13

You can't deny someone's personal, you know, first person experience

01:27:13 --> 01:27:17

that they've had. But what you would encourage the person to do

01:27:17 --> 01:27:21

is to stand in the possibility that there's a different

01:27:21 --> 01:27:26

interpretation, one that is more holistic, that gives you

01:27:26 --> 01:27:30

tranquility, rationally and spiritually, by way of your

01:27:30 --> 01:27:34

knowledge and by way of your heart, mind and soul, right. And

01:27:34 --> 01:27:40

body from one perspective, right. And so, having the person saying,

01:27:40 --> 01:27:43

Look, you have this particular experience, like someone like I

01:27:43 --> 01:27:45

was mentioning about the the person who said, I was addicted to

01:27:45 --> 01:27:47

drugs, and so on and so forth.

01:27:48 --> 01:27:52

By saying, like, look, is it possible that that spiritual

01:27:52 --> 01:27:57

experience you had has more to do with the one true God? And that

01:27:57 --> 01:28:03

that one true God is the one who brought you that tranquility? And

01:28:03 --> 01:28:08

also, it's very clear about who that one God is right? That he is

01:28:08 --> 01:28:11

a Rahman Rahim. And he is one that he's not three and one, and so on

01:28:11 --> 01:28:16

and so forth. Right? So encouraging the person to stand in

01:28:16 --> 01:28:21

the possibility that there's a different explanation, or there's

01:28:21 --> 01:28:24

a different meaning to the spiritual experience that they

01:28:24 --> 01:28:28

might have had. Right? So someone says, I experienced Jesus, right?

01:28:28 --> 01:28:31

Standing in the possibility that there's a different meaning to

01:28:31 --> 01:28:35

their spiritual experience, right? Understand, understanding that

01:28:35 --> 01:28:40

they're coming from a specific worldview, and that their paradigm

01:28:41 --> 01:28:44

is going to have an effect on how they understand something. So just

01:28:44 --> 01:28:47

having the person stand and the possibility, the explanation that

01:28:47 --> 01:28:51

they've given their spiritual experience. It, there may be

01:28:51 --> 01:28:56

another explanation. Right. So that basically is what I wanted to

01:28:58 --> 01:29:02

wanted to basically cover. We can look and see if there's any sort

01:29:02 --> 01:29:03

of questions.

01:29:05 --> 01:29:05

Let's see.

01:29:07 --> 01:29:10

So looks like a lot of questions as I was speaking so.

01:29:13 --> 01:29:14

Well, alright.

01:29:19 --> 01:29:20

Let's see here.

01:29:23 --> 01:29:24

So someone said,

01:29:25 --> 01:29:28

you're actually refuting the attribute of a logical rock man or

01:29:28 --> 01:29:31

him? So I don't really see how I'm refuting that.

01:29:33 --> 01:29:36

Are you saying I'm refuting that or you as the Dyer is refuting

01:29:36 --> 01:29:38

that? I don't follow.

01:29:42 --> 01:29:43

Let's see. So

01:29:46 --> 01:29:49

So someone asked, can you say that the experience was just merely a

01:29:49 --> 01:29:49

dream?

01:29:51 --> 01:29:53

I think that'd be kind of difficult to say, you know,

01:29:53 --> 01:29:56

because people understand dream states. They know when they go to

01:29:56 --> 01:29:58

sleep and they're, they're dreaming. I think it might be

01:29:58 --> 01:29:59

difficult, I think

01:30:00 --> 01:30:06

a better explanation would be to, to say that, you know, that that

01:30:06 --> 01:30:09

the interpretation is something else, right? I'm gonna have to

01:30:09 --> 01:30:13

have more of a specific example. You know, because some experiences

01:30:13 --> 01:30:19

which people consider to be spiritual, in fact, are not really

01:30:19 --> 01:30:23

spiritual from, from a true spirituality understanding, right?

01:30:23 --> 01:30:26

So someone say, Look, you know, I, I took a mushroom, and I had these

01:30:26 --> 01:30:30

crazy experiences, I saw aliens and things like that. Okay, but

01:30:30 --> 01:30:35

perhaps, you know, that short lives experience that you had, has

01:30:35 --> 01:30:38

a different explanation, it has more to do with the neural

01:30:38 --> 01:30:41

chemicals or whatever it might be. And that things that you're seeing

01:30:41 --> 01:30:44

are just not really the explanation. That's correct,

01:30:44 --> 01:30:47

right? Or what explanation to you've given it and I'm not sure

01:30:47 --> 01:30:50

what explanation they would give it. But it would depend on what

01:30:50 --> 01:30:52

they would say the explanation is, or taking something like

01:30:55 --> 01:30:58

I don't know, ghosts, I saw ghosts, even though that's not

01:30:58 --> 01:31:02

really a spiritual experience, experience. But if someone says I

01:31:02 --> 01:31:05

saw ghosts, like Yeah, okay, and so what sort of interpretation? Do

01:31:05 --> 01:31:08

you give that particular experience while the someone who

01:31:08 --> 01:31:11

came back from the dead and so on and so forth? Okay.

01:31:12 --> 01:31:16

But is it possible that that can be explained by the Islamic

01:31:16 --> 01:31:19

paradigm and then you can speak about jinn and so on and so forth?

01:31:19 --> 01:31:21

But I don't know if that would constitute as a spiritual

01:31:21 --> 01:31:24

experience? I think a spiritual experience experience is more of

01:31:24 --> 01:31:27

something that's very personal. No one knows best.

01:31:30 --> 01:31:32

So any other questions?

01:31:40 --> 01:31:41

Let's see.

01:31:42 --> 01:31:45

So if you did ask them questions, go ahead and repost them if you

01:31:45 --> 01:31:46

cut out appreciate it.

01:31:47 --> 01:31:53

Souls is consciousness, knifes is body, um, a very, very, very

01:31:53 --> 01:31:57

simplified way of looking at it. Yes. But the issue is that the

01:31:57 --> 01:31:59

term knifes

01:32:00 --> 01:32:04

within Islamic source material is used in different ways. Right? So

01:32:04 --> 01:32:09

nuts can include the entire human personality, right? So like the

01:32:09 --> 01:32:11

concept of AI, like it's an ontological

01:32:13 --> 01:32:17

statement, right? So when you say Anna, or you know, Nuptse, like,

01:32:17 --> 01:32:20

that's myself. It's not refer like, we asked like, What do you

01:32:20 --> 01:32:24

mean by yourself your knifes. So nuts can refer to the self itself,

01:32:24 --> 01:32:28

right? Like yourself itself, it can refer to the entire

01:32:28 --> 01:32:32

personality. In fact, Allah subhanho wa Taala uses that term

01:32:32 --> 01:32:36

to refer to himself, right? But here, we're not going to say that

01:32:36 --> 01:32:39

he's out to build some sort of a body, right? Obviously, he's

01:32:39 --> 01:32:42

referring to the idea of him being a,

01:32:44 --> 01:32:47

you know, like a beam, right? So when you have the Docomo Allahu

01:32:47 --> 01:32:52

NAFSA, so Allah warns you from himself, here, we're talking about

01:32:53 --> 01:32:58

self as a separate construct than what we were speaking about. So

01:32:58 --> 01:33:01

depending on the context of where we're using the term knifes in

01:33:01 --> 01:33:05

Arabic, you're going to have to interpret it like that. Right? And

01:33:05 --> 01:33:06

Allah knows best.

01:33:08 --> 01:33:10

So someone said, What is your thought? What are your thoughts on

01:33:10 --> 01:33:14

reciting Quran in public spaces in the West? I think it would depend

01:33:14 --> 01:33:19

on where you're reciting it. And, you know, if the occasion calls

01:33:19 --> 01:33:23

for a recitation, right? Sometimes it can be quite,

01:33:25 --> 01:33:29

it can be quite, it can have the opposite effect. Meaning that, you

01:33:29 --> 01:33:32

know, that if, if, if you're in a busy place, and

01:33:33 --> 01:33:36

you know, maybe it might, people might not appreciate it, right,

01:33:36 --> 01:33:38

especially if people are in the middle of something, they're doing

01:33:38 --> 01:33:42

something trying to listen to something. But you know, if it's a

01:33:42 --> 01:33:46

public place, I don't know, again, I think it'd be very situational.

01:33:46 --> 01:33:51

It depends. Allah knows best. Any other questions? Can we have a

01:33:51 --> 01:33:56

seminar on philosophy of Islam? Seems like a very big topic, but

01:33:56 --> 01:34:01

what I'll recommend is that our, our brother, Mohammed hijab, is

01:34:02 --> 01:34:07

doing a series called London Nia, which he's written the poem. And

01:34:07 --> 01:34:12

he's explaining from that poem, Theo, philosophical points related

01:34:12 --> 01:34:17

to Islam and its comparison to other, you know, philosophies that

01:34:17 --> 01:34:20

are out there that run antagonists to Islam. So I think the recent

01:34:20 --> 01:34:24

one he did was on feminism, etc. So

01:34:28 --> 01:34:31

do we have priorities in terms of which methodologies to choose from

01:34:31 --> 01:34:35

when giving dower like the ones you gave? Which do we prioritize?

01:34:36 --> 01:34:38

So again, it's going to be very situational.

01:34:41 --> 01:34:44

You know, I don't know if you can say you prioritize one obviously,

01:34:44 --> 01:34:46

you're going to prioritize Tawheed.

01:34:47 --> 01:34:50

That's not necessarily Tawheed in the sense that

01:34:52 --> 01:34:55

as a rational argument, because when we understand Tawheed, we

01:34:55 --> 01:34:58

understand that there's a certain concept of dying, right? That that

01:34:58 --> 01:34:59

is the bare minimum

01:35:00 --> 01:35:02

One that you need to present to someone at least gives them the

01:35:02 --> 01:35:04

understanding of what the heat is.

01:35:06 --> 01:35:10

And this is and really, that's what you're obligated to do. Now,

01:35:10 --> 01:35:14

that being the case, there's gonna be different ways of how you

01:35:14 --> 01:35:17

present what Tawheed really is, what does it mean? Like we just

01:35:17 --> 01:35:19

got done speaking about Iman.

01:35:20 --> 01:35:25

But essentially, we're tying it to the hate. So it's going to depend

01:35:25 --> 01:35:29

on the person, like, you know, are they a spiritual person, or, you

01:35:29 --> 01:35:35

know, some people, they are very kind of analytical in how they

01:35:35 --> 01:35:37

look at the world and things like that. And for them, rational

01:35:37 --> 01:35:40

arguments might be the way to go. Some people are less analytical,

01:35:40 --> 01:35:44

some people need more spiritual experiences. So it really is going

01:35:44 --> 01:35:46

to depend upon the person themselves, how much you know

01:35:46 --> 01:35:50

about them, their own culture and background. You know, what I think

01:35:50 --> 01:35:52

is really fascinating. I was

01:35:53 --> 01:35:54

reading a little bit about

01:35:58 --> 01:36:01

a bit of Loony, right, I think that's how you say no, and he was

01:36:01 --> 01:36:03

the one that accompanied

01:36:04 --> 01:36:09

muda husbandry, when they went and they, you know, went and took over

01:36:09 --> 01:36:12

India, at the time, if he no matter what there was no way he

01:36:12 --> 01:36:15

did 17 excursions deep in the heart of India. So he had a

01:36:15 --> 01:36:19

scholar with him. And that scholar wrote, wrote a quite an extensive

01:36:19 --> 01:36:21

Tract on

01:36:22 --> 01:36:27

what you would call like the the Hindu practices of that time

01:36:27 --> 01:36:30

period. But what's interesting is that he wrote it in such a way to

01:36:30 --> 01:36:34

understand that these people have XY and Z ideas, like they have

01:36:34 --> 01:36:38

certain Shi'a they have certain symbols, and to understand what

01:36:38 --> 01:36:42

their symbols are, it means to understand how to make Dow to them

01:36:42 --> 01:36:46

the best. And so a lot of the Dow that was done, sometimes it went

01:36:46 --> 01:36:50

to some extremes, but had to do with more of a spiritual type of

01:36:50 --> 01:36:54

presentation of Islam, right for the idea that understanding that

01:36:54 --> 01:36:57

that's where the the background was of the people that they're

01:36:57 --> 01:37:01

addressing. So it really depends, I mean, you're gonna have to kind

01:37:01 --> 01:37:03

of see what the background of the person is, where they're coming

01:37:03 --> 01:37:07

from, what culture they're from, and so on, and so forth. Lord

01:37:07 --> 01:37:07

knows best.

01:37:11 --> 01:37:16

Let's see. Any other questions? I think we have a few more minutes,

01:37:16 --> 01:37:17

if there are any.

01:37:23 --> 01:37:27

Oh, this is a good one. Can experiential signs be objective?

01:37:28 --> 01:37:28

Right.

01:37:30 --> 01:37:33

I think that's, that's, that's a tough call. Right?

01:37:34 --> 01:37:39

I would say certain signs can be objective, but objective, in what

01:37:39 --> 01:37:42

sense? So I would argue and I've argued this in the seminar, which

01:37:42 --> 01:37:44

I did on beauty and the recognition of God, that the

01:37:44 --> 01:37:46

natural world

01:37:47 --> 01:37:50

recognizing beauty in the natural world is most definitely

01:37:50 --> 01:37:55

objective. However, beauty in the hands of human beings like art and

01:37:55 --> 01:37:57

things like that, that's definitely going to be subjective,

01:37:57 --> 01:38:00

right? And we know this not necessarily through some sort of

01:38:01 --> 01:38:06

discursive reasoning. We know this by way of experience, right? So

01:38:07 --> 01:38:10

the objectivity of nature is something we see all around us

01:38:10 --> 01:38:13

when people are trying to sell a cereal, this is all natural,

01:38:13 --> 01:38:15

right? Or, you know, they're selling us whatever, right?

01:38:15 --> 01:38:19

Protein Powder, all natural, whatever it might be, but why?

01:38:19 --> 01:38:24

Like, it's almost as if all natural or nature is a type of

01:38:25 --> 01:38:28

meta phenomenon, right? So you know, they have the concept of the

01:38:29 --> 01:38:31

the true the good and the beautiful. So you can't say

01:38:31 --> 01:38:35

something is you know, true is your baseline Right?

01:38:38 --> 01:38:42

to Chico zoo to in his book The ethical

01:38:43 --> 01:38:47

What do you say the the something ethical something concepts in

01:38:47 --> 01:38:50

Islam or in the Quran,

01:38:51 --> 01:38:54

he mentioned that there are certain terms that are like their

01:38:54 --> 01:38:58

meta terms. And they are secondary, and you have primary

01:38:58 --> 01:39:01

terms that are built upon it, right. And so you have for

01:39:01 --> 01:39:06

instance, good. Now, you use good as your starting point, you build

01:39:06 --> 01:39:10

terms upon it. So you say, Okay, so, you know, a massage would be

01:39:10 --> 01:39:14

good. Okay, well, would good, be good. Okay, but that's, that's

01:39:14 --> 01:39:17

your lowest point. You can't go beyond good, right? Similarly,

01:39:17 --> 01:39:22

truth. You know, I believe X because it's true. What is true,

01:39:22 --> 01:39:26

true. See out, so then you also have beauty. You can't say like,

01:39:26 --> 01:39:30

oh, I look at something because it's beautiful. is beautiful, is

01:39:30 --> 01:39:34

beauty. Beautiful. So you understand that? So from that

01:39:34 --> 01:39:36

perspective, I would say you could say natural beauty would be

01:39:37 --> 01:39:40

objective, like you experience natural beauty, and that's an

01:39:40 --> 01:39:45

objective experience. Right? Whereas human made beauty, it has

01:39:45 --> 01:39:50

certain certain things that make it intrinsically subjective. So

01:39:50 --> 01:39:53

for instance, it's subjective, from the point of view that when

01:39:53 --> 01:39:56

someone is painting, even if they're painting a mountain, it's

01:39:56 --> 01:39:59

going to be framed. So you're looking at it from the subjective

01:40:00 --> 01:40:04

view of the person that's doing the painting, right? Because it's

01:40:04 --> 01:40:07

got framing, whereas in the natural world, there is no

01:40:07 --> 01:40:11

framing. It's just vast. Right? The vastness of nature is there's

01:40:11 --> 01:40:14

no framing, there's no kind of human perspective, x with the

01:40:14 --> 01:40:18

exception of your own. Right. So from that perspective, I would say

01:40:18 --> 01:40:21

its objective can be objective. No one knows best.

01:40:29 --> 01:40:32

So you like the word order better? Maybe you're more analytical man.

01:40:32 --> 01:40:33

I don't know.

01:40:35 --> 01:40:39

I look at it as a wow. It's, it's beautiful. Jimmy.

01:40:40 --> 01:40:43

I don't know if I'll go to my wife and say you look very orderly

01:40:43 --> 01:40:43

today.

01:40:45 --> 01:40:46

Anyway.

01:40:48 --> 01:40:48

Okay.

01:40:51 --> 01:40:53

All right. Any other questions? I'm trying, I'm gonna try to

01:40:53 --> 01:40:55

scroll up here. And see.

01:41:06 --> 01:41:09

Okay, so you've got a question, but I think it's outside the scope

01:41:09 --> 01:41:11

of what we're speaking about. Right. So you said how can you

01:41:11 --> 01:41:16

prove to an atheist existing, the existing of consciousness?

01:41:18 --> 01:41:21

Where would it go and how it's related to the soul and knifes,

01:41:21 --> 01:41:24

we'll see, again, when we come to this whole concept of trying to

01:41:24 --> 01:41:26

prove something to someone.

01:41:27 --> 01:41:35

I think that's sort of discourse. It's, it becomes sometimes it can

01:41:35 --> 01:41:40

be counterproductive, right? Because the very idea of okay, I'm

01:41:40 --> 01:41:42

going to prove this to a person or prove that to a person.

01:41:44 --> 01:41:47

Try to transcend that try to transcend that sort of verbiage

01:41:47 --> 01:41:49

that I'm gonna prove consciousness or improve that consciousness is

01:41:49 --> 01:41:53

something that Jani you know, a person is conscious, they know

01:41:53 --> 01:41:55

they're conscious, right? It's, it's not, it's not really a

01:41:55 --> 01:41:57

phenomenon, that you're going to sit there and say, Oh, let me

01:41:57 --> 01:41:59

prove consciousness to you. Because you're going to, you're

01:41:59 --> 01:42:03

going to enter into a rabbit hole trying to do that, right. As far

01:42:03 --> 01:42:06

as the soul and the knifes and things like that, I mean, you

01:42:06 --> 01:42:09

know, to be very honest, the type of

01:42:10 --> 01:42:14

certainty you would get by way of experience is at a higher level

01:42:14 --> 01:42:18

than what you may get as a as a rational endeavor. Like, I'll give

01:42:18 --> 01:42:21

you an example. So you know, in the Islamic framework, we know

01:42:21 --> 01:42:24

that there are three levels of European three levels of

01:42:24 --> 01:42:30

certainty, right? You have you have anybody again, I know Lea

01:42:30 --> 01:42:34

clean and happily agreed. So Emily, clean is a rational

01:42:34 --> 01:42:39

certainty, right? So just take the quintessential example. Everyone

01:42:39 --> 01:42:43

knows they're gonna die. Like death, you know that you

01:42:43 --> 01:42:45

understand that? That's a reality, you're gonna die, right? Very few

01:42:45 --> 01:42:48

people think, Okay, well, I'm gonna live forever. You know,

01:42:48 --> 01:42:51

especially when you get older, right? Maybe as a young person,

01:42:51 --> 01:42:54

you might think that you might not even think about it at all. But

01:42:54 --> 01:42:59

you have that as a not, you're certain about that. Now, when the

01:42:59 --> 01:43:02

angel of death is knocking at your door, and you see the Angel of

01:43:02 --> 01:43:06

Death, you have idled your pain. You can see the Angel of Death,

01:43:07 --> 01:43:11

right? And so now you're even more sure. And then when you have the

01:43:11 --> 01:43:17

experience of your soul being pulled out of your body, you are

01:43:17 --> 01:43:20

you can't be any more sure, because of the experience you

01:43:20 --> 01:43:26

directly had. Right? So Elmo your pain. I know you're clean, happily

01:43:26 --> 01:43:30

agreed, right? And this is kind of a kind of a nice construct of

01:43:30 --> 01:43:33

understanding certainty as well, that you can give someone

01:43:33 --> 01:43:37

knowledge like it will create you mentions something really

01:43:37 --> 01:43:43

interesting. He says, imagine if you never tasted sugar. Now you

01:43:43 --> 01:43:48

have a good friend, you trust him, you know him, he is like your best

01:43:48 --> 01:43:50

friend. He's the most honest person, you know, and he tells

01:43:50 --> 01:43:57

you, sugar tastes great. It's very sweet. Right? And you say, Okay,

01:43:57 --> 01:43:59

well, that's, that's good. So now you have a certain knowledge of

01:43:59 --> 01:44:02

sugar being sweet like because you have testimonial knowledge, he

01:44:02 --> 01:44:06

told you and you trust him and so on and so forth. And then you see

01:44:06 --> 01:44:10

that sugar is used in certain desserts. So you see that this

01:44:10 --> 01:44:13

person is putting sugar in cake or whatever it might be. So now

01:44:13 --> 01:44:16

you're like, okay, so you're certainly is increased what they

01:44:16 --> 01:44:19

want to do sugar unless, you know, unless they're gonna make dessert,

01:44:19 --> 01:44:25

right? And then you taste sugar. Now that direct experience of

01:44:25 --> 01:44:30

tasting sugar has increased your your opinion to at its apex.

01:44:30 --> 01:44:36

Right. So my point in mentioning that is that you know, it's the

01:44:36 --> 01:44:41

whole kind of verbiage that we use about proving this or proving that

01:44:42 --> 01:44:45

I think it's time we kind of transcend that and we try to have

01:44:45 --> 01:44:48

a more holistic approach Inshallah, right, because frankly,

01:44:48 --> 01:44:51

trying to prove the consciousness I don't know that's a tough one.

01:44:53 --> 01:44:56

Let's see. So let's do one more question Inshallah, if anyone has

01:44:56 --> 01:44:57

one, and if not,

01:44:59 --> 01:45:00

let's see

01:45:00 --> 01:45:00

II

01:45:07 --> 01:45:10

let's see a quick Nimi now Okay, so

01:45:12 --> 01:45:15

Okay, good deal. All right, I think that's good.

01:45:16 --> 01:45:20

So, we'll go ahead and ended here in Sharla. Zuckerman, Ohio May

01:45:20 --> 01:45:23

Allah subhanaw taala bless all of you bless all of you for

01:45:23 --> 01:45:27

attending. If you've got a bit monotonous and boring in between

01:45:27 --> 01:45:28

my apologies about that,

01:45:29 --> 01:45:31

you know, I, I tried to

01:45:32 --> 01:45:36

present the material as best as I could. So there was some fault or

01:45:36 --> 01:45:36

some,

01:45:38 --> 01:45:41

you know, some some mistakes or whatever it might be, that's all

01:45:41 --> 01:45:45

for myself or from shaitan and he sort of benefits all from Allah

01:45:45 --> 01:45:48

subhanho wa Taala May Allah bless you and bless all your families,

01:45:48 --> 01:45:50

just like Mohammed said. I'm a late comer Abdullah.

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