Fahad Tasleem – Beauty & the Recognition of God

Fahad Tasleem
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The speakers discuss the physical meaning of beauty in evaluating "fit major" and "fit minor" concepts, as well as the cognitive biases that people are exposed to. They also touch on the natural world and its use in relation to emotions and the natural world. They stress the importance of understanding the physical meaning of beauty in relation to worship and love, and briefly touch on science and its limits. They briefly mention the use of science and its limits, but do not provide much context on these topics.
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Salam Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Bismillah R Rahman

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Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen wa salatu salam, ala

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Rasulillah Karim and my bod. So welcome to today's session

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that is being brought to you by Sapiens Institute. Today we're

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going to be talking about a topic that is very near and dear to me.

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And the topic is Beauty and the recognition of God. Now, as we get

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started,

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we want to talk a little bit about the world that we live in. And

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before I get to our first slide here, one of the things that we

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have to understand about, you know, when we talk about topics

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like beauty, and what we call more like fit three topics, is that

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they present a certain angle that many times we don't think about,

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because we live in a world that is, perhaps some would say, overly

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focused on rationality. And so this topic, I think, what will

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happen if you haven't seen it in the past, that I think you may be

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pleasantly surprised with the information that we're going to be

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presenting today, inshallah. So with that said, let's go on to

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start in earnest.

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I want to start with us with this with this particular tweet that

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was sent out by Rick Enfield. And he says that we're in a post truth

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world with eroding trust and accountability, It can't end well.

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And now we want to ask the question like, why would like why

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would someone like Nick Enfield, post a tweet, were saying that,

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look, we're living in a world that's post truth.

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Because the reality is when we start reflecting upon the world

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that we live in, we see that the the, the, the the things that are

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happening around us, whether that's in the political sphere,

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whether that's in the social sphere, economic sphere, there is

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a lot of upheaval, when it comes to the idea of truth. Okay, so

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when we're talking about, let's say, social media, you find that

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across social media, there is a type of mistrust. And because of

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that mistrust, there are real world consequences that come

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about, okay, so that mistrust will do what has to do with things like

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not trusting the government, not trusting scientists, not trusting

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religious leaders, and so on and so forth. So what Rick Enfield

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here is highlighting is that we live in a post truth world with

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eroding trust and accountability, It can't end well, because if we

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continue down this path, and he's thinking about this in terms of

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like a, a global community, if we go down this path, and there's no

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trust in anything, it's going to be very problematic. And we saw

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some of the the ramifications of that mistrust, at least locally

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here in the US, when the Capitol was stormed. And you found it

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found that people were storming the Capitol because they

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mistrusted the electoral system here in the US. Now, that's a real

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world consequence, to some, to a form of mistrust now.

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So when we think about this, what we find is that this mistrust has

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proliferated in this day and age, substantially more than ever has

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before. Okay, and then has a lot to do with the the internet

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itself. There's a very good documentary that I, you know, that

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I saw recently on Netflix, I think was called the, the, you know,

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this the social order, the social paradox or something like that.

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And what they highlighted, is that when a person gets online, and

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many of us spend a lot of time online, when a person gets online,

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there are a team of engineers that are behind the scenes that are,

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you know, basically working with algorithms taking in all the data

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they've collected on you as an individual. And by way of that

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data, they are now you know, feeding information to you as a

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specific individual. In other words, they make they make a,

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what's kind of called an avatar, a personality type or trait for you

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as an individual. And then they and then when you when you let's

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say, search for something on Google, the search isn't the same

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across the board, rather, it's curated for you individually. Now,

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you may think, Okay, well, what's wrong with that? Well, the problem

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is, is that that is casting the idea of something being

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objectively true. It's casting that aside, in the sense that if

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you were to search like we haven't in the slide here, climate change

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is now based on all the algorithms and everything and all the data

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that's collecting about you. Your Google search results come up as

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climate change is a hoax. Climate change is disrupting the planet.

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Or it could come up as climate change is the greatest threat.

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Climate change is natural, all of that. Now, who cares? Like, okay,

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so now you've got all of this information, they have all this

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information on you. Is that for your benefit as an individual? And

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the answer is no, because the end user is, in fact, not you. But

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people that pay for the ads that are able to fund the companies

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like Google and Facebook, where they can make money. So it's a

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very materialistic goal at the end. Now, this goal, because it's

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based in this type of materialism, you are not the end user. So your

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idea of let me search for something that is true. And let's

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say objectively true,

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or that's neutral, let's say that you want to have a search term,

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it's neutral just comes up, the search items come up in some sort

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of a neutral way, it doesn't happen. Why is that? Well, because

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an avatar of you is built and is constructed based on all the

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information. And therefore you and perhaps your neighbor are getting

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two different types of information. Now, again, what we

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see is that in that sort of environment, you have a lot of

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news that is false. And in fact, there was a study done recently

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from MIT. And they concluded that false news travels six times

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faster on Twitter than truthful news. And that is phenomenal when

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you think about it. Right? One of the research quotes I have here

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from the study is that accurate stories rarely reach more than

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1000 people get the most prominent false news items routinely reach

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between 1000 and 100,000. People. Okay, so the world we live in, and

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our sources of information, if we're if we're spending a lot of

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time online, there may be a mistrust from the source that

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we're getting the information from, okay. And what we find, like

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I've, like I've quoted in like, like I have on the slide here,

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that you look at people who study societies, civilizations, and they

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see this as a downward trajectory. Because as people start to get

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misinformation, and mistrust starts to proliferate across

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society, you find a breakdown of society. And so like this article

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in The Atlantic, the author Yoni Applebaum, he mentioned, you know,

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the title is captivating because of how America ends. And in a

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sense, he's saying, How does Western civilization end because

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of this proliferation of misinformation, that is causing

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people to mistrust various facets of sources of information, right,

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whether that be source of information like scientists, and

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to mistrust the entire scientific enterprise, whether it has to do

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with government, and mistrusting local state national governments,

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or that has to do with mistrusting religion and religious leaders. So

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across the board, if there is a culture of mistrust, then it

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becomes very difficult for society to bind together. And you find

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that this this is something that, you know, authors like

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journalists, like Yoni Applebaum are mentioning that this is

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something that can cause to a breakdown of society at its core.

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Now, you might be asking, Why have I started with, you know, on a

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topic on beauty? Why have I started with all of this? All of

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these concepts of mistrust? Because the thing is, when people

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when people think about the information that they're getting,

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people assume that they are able to take in information in a

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completely unbiased way, generally, right? And more or

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less, that may be true. But the assumption and we've seen this

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with the information that's available online, and how online

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activity and our engagement online can actually have an influence on

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how we think and the opinions we form, we see that that idea of us

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forming rational conclusions to reach truth is impeded. Okay, and

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so, based on you know, just what we've presented so far, we find

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that when someone wants to find the truth about something, a

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simple Google search won't lead to the truth directly, because there

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are a number of factors that one needs to consider, you know, the

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background of the engineers, what is the what is the what is the

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motivation of the search engine you're using? What is the

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motivation of Facebook, when you're just, you know, perusing

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through and looking for friends that you haven't spoken to in a

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while, like what are the motivations behind all of these,

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you know, all of these

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Social media, you know, things that we're engaged with. So, if

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the idea is is that our information can be tainted, and us

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in order for us to reach truth, it cannot be just a rational

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endeavor, meaning we can't just trust our own, you know, cognitive

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sense to reach truth 100% of the time, and I don't think anyone

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even expects that. So with this,

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you can say this depreciation of the ability to to gain information

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and see truth as truth. One of the things that we understand, at

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least from the Islamic framework, is that the paths to truth are not

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just rational. Now, notice that it said not just rational, I'm not

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saying that we're discounting rationality altogether. But I'm

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saying that there are paths to truth, when we're thinking about

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truth as being objective and being true. If that's the case, then

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there are paths or truth, that, that there are paths of truth that

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are that are not just limited to the rational mind, right, and not

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just information coming in, and so on, so forth. So one of those

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paths to truth. And this is what the central thesis of this

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particular session is, is beauty and one's exposure to beauty. So

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as you'll notice, the central thesis is, the greater your

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exposure to beauty, the greater your ability to see truth as it

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really is. In other words, when a person what I'm what this what the

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thesis is, is trying to focus on, that when a person has exposure to

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beauty, when they're able to witness beauty, there's a certain

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phenomenon where a person is able to recognize something to be true.

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Okay. Now, why am I stating that this is like this is the central

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thesis? Well, why do I say that that's what we're going to be

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discussing. As we move forward, the greater your exposure to

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beauty, the greater your ability to see truth as it really is.

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Okay. Let's start with.

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Let's start with some basics about yourself. Okay, so we talked about

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social media, the mistrust of the government, mistrust of

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scientists, and so on and so forth. And we may come back to

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that in a second here. But let's start with our very own selves. I

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mean, you can definitely trust yourself, right? I mean, you have

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a first person experience, you study things, you get you, you

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have information that you're you're taking in. And if that's

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the case, you should be able to make

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rational conclusions based on true information. That itself is true.

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Well, let's dig down a little bit deeper into that. All right. So

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can you trust yourself? There was a, there was a,

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what you would call a anthropologist, I think by name of

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friends, Muller liar. And back in the 1800s, and he came up with

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this famous line, optical illusion. Okay. Now, most people

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when they see this, this this diagram that you see on the slide,

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they, they seem to look at the line on the right, the one with

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the with the, with the two lines going out like a like a Y on the

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top and the bottom, they see that central line to be longer than the

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line to the left the line that has the the arrow type shape on both

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ends. Now, that's what we see.

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And the reality is that, in fact, they're of equal length. Now this

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optical illusion was quite popular, starting from the time

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when Frank Mulder, late Leia introduced it, and this would be

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introduced to people they would see and they say, yes, most

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people, and maybe you're looking at and saying, Okay, well, I don't

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see it, but you would be in the minority. Right? Most people when

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they see these lines, they it's to them, it seems like the line on

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the right is longer than the line on the left. And in reality,

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they're actually the same length. Now, this kind of this optical

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illusion was taken to be something that was true across the board and

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various factors when they were studied.

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They were they were attributed to just a certain type of, let's say,

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cognitive misstep in the brain. But what happened was in the

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1960s, the researchers broaden their experimentation, because

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what they realized is from the 1800s until the 1960s, all of the

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people that were that these that were shown this diagram in terms

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of official research, were what they call weird. Now you might be

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wondering, what do you mean by What do you mean by by by weird?

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Like, how does that

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What do you mean they're weird? So what I mean by

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weird is that cultural psychologists, this is a term that

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they used when they're trying to categorize the group of people

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that they are researching. Okay, so cultural psychologists, they

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use this acronym weird to mean white,

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educated, industrialized, rich and democratic societies. So all the

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people that have been exposed to this, this particular optical

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illusion, we're all weird based on the acronym. So in the 1960s,

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researchers decided to show this very optical illusion to people

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across the world. And they gathered about 2000 people, and

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they, they basically had them look at, you know, had small samples

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from each part of the world parts from North Africa, you know, South

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Asia, Southeast Asia, Australia, etc. And what they found was very

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fascinating, because what they found in the 1960s study was that

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many, many people did not see the optical illusion at all. And that

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a lot of that was based on the geographical area that they were

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coming from. So for instance,

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when they looked at the small samples from the suku tribes,

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people in northern Angola, this is a specific area that they had

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gotten a sample a sample of people to look at the optical illusion,

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and the BT tries people from the Ivory Coast, no one in that group

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saw the lines as being different or of different length. Now, when

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this was quite surprising to the researchers, because they started

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to now wonder, why is it the case that you wouldn't when your sample

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group is weird, right? That they're coming from the west,

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they're educated, industrialized, etc, that that most by and large

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people from that, you know, that section of society, that section

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of that culture sees these lines as being a different lens, yet,

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people from those specific tribes don't see the difference at all.

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And so one of the the theories that was presented was that it has

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to do with our depth perception based on the architecture that we

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find ourselves in, right. So when you think about the Western world,

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or those places that have been influenced by the Western world,

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we find, especially in modernity, right, when we think about

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architecture, and many people say that, you know that that that the

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death of beauty happened with modernity, specifically in the

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realm of architecture, because architecture started to map out

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this worldview that had to do with with giving preference to utility

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over beauty. And so hence, when you walk into a certain room

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within the Western world, or those countries that have been

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influenced by the Western world, you find Angular, straight

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structures. And you'll look in the diagram there, you see that those

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angles, you say, wall a and wall B, and they have certain angles,

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lines are straight, walls are straight, and everything is very

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straight. And because they're straight, you your mind then gives

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you a certain type of depth perception. So even when you see

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the lines as a vacuum, without, you know, seeing them as the

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corners, two corners of a room, and you sense that perception, you

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see the lines as being of a different length, because of that

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sort of cognitive bias that you have being brought up in the

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western world or being brought up in a part of the world that's

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influenced by the West. Yet, when the when, when, when the small

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samples from the from the suku tries people and the BT tries

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people, when they were presented with this, when they're presented

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with an optical illusion, they saw the lines as perfectly the same

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length. And the theory was, was that because when they looked at

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where they were living, the structures that they were living

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in, so they were living in huts that were round, they hadn't been

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exposed to modernity, they hadn't been exposed to these, you know,

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Angular structures that, you know, form part of the modern world,

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definitely a part of that part of the Western world. And because of

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that, they were not exposed to the same optical illusion that someone

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living in those type of structures would be exposed to. So the reason

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I'm mentioning this study, is because we have to ask ourselves,

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that if it's true, that we know that we can take in information,

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is it that we can take in information in a completely

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unbiased way, when the reality is, there are many cognitive biases

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that were exposed to? And of course, one may reason that we

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know about these lines because of information from other senses. So

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yes, maybe optically, we have a cognitive bias here. But we're

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able to do away with that cognitive bias by way of other

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senses like measurements and rulers and things like that.

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And no doubt that's true. But the reality is you still have an

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initial cognitive bias. Whereas, you know, the Sioux tribes, people

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in the BD tribes, people don't have the cognitive bias. So at

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least we'd have to say, when it comes to the question of, can we

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trust ourselves, we can say, it's not 100%, we're not, we cannot

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trust ourselves 100% of the time, we are going to have cognitive

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limitations, there are going to be cognitive biases, when we take in

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information. And that is, you can say, That's exacerbated when the

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sheer you know, the sheer quantity of information is so overbearing

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like it is today, when, by the fact that we have access to the

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internet, which gives us such a quantity of information that times

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you know, pre modern people that lived in in pre modernity or a pre

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modern times, were never exposed to that sheer quantity

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information, it just means that our cognitive biases are going to

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be greater, just by the by the fact that we have more

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information. Okay. So we understand that from at least to

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some extent, we can't trust ourselves. What about the idea

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that, okay, if we have cognitive biases, then perhaps what we can

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do is one of the ways to expand our cognitive limitations, is by

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getting information from other people, other sources, right? So

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we may have certain limitations in our knowledge, let's say in a

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certain field, certain fields, let's say biology, or medicine,

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now, we have a certain limitation, and yet we have the reality of

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getting sick. And how do we extend our cognitive limitation? Well, we

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go to a doctor, and we put our trust on that doctors knowledge.

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And so therefore, we're in a sense, extending our cognitive

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limitation, by basically going to the doctor asking the doctor

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What's wrong, and we trust their knowledge. And so our cognitive

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biases or limitations, you can say, we have we're trying to,

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we're trying to do away with those by trusting information from other

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sources. Okay. And whether you know, and a lot of and this is

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true, no matter what, what what sort of field that you're in,

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because we, as even when we think about ourselves as individuals, we

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rely on testimonial knowledge, we rely on the say so of others in

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order to get information. Otherwise, you would not find

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progress. And I say that in with inverted commas. You wouldn't find

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technological and scientific progress. If we just said, we're

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only going to trust ourselves, a we'd be we'd be headed, we would

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have to deal with our own cognitive biases. But be we would

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have a cognitive limitation with being I only trust information for

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myself. And nobody functions like that. All of us take in

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information from other sources, in order to expand our cognitive

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limitations. But now here's the thing. If we understand that we

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have cognitive biases, the people and the sources that we're taking

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information from, they too probably have cognitive biases. So

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we find that the issue does not necessarily get resolved, and

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perhaps in certain cases may be exacerbated. All right, so let me

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give an example of what I mean Can Can we trust others, and the fact

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that they would have their own cognitive biases. So what you see

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on the screen now is a map of the world. And typically, you know, if

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you open any sort of book on geography, this is the map that we

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would be presented to you. So you find you have North America being

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on the top part of the map, you have South America being on the

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bottom part of the map, again, you have Europe on the top part of the

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map and Russia, Asia, China, India, being north of the equator,

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or parts of the north, the Equator, and of course, Africa,

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Australia, so on and so forth, being south of the equator, or

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being on the bottom part of the map. Now, what I'd like us to do,

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just for a few moments here, is to focus on not the concept of north

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and south in terms of global positioning, but rather a

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direction in other words, up and down. Okay.

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Now, here's the thing, that when we look at the modern map, that

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we'll look at the map today, this map is actually traced back to the

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to the Greek astronomer Ptolemy. And what we find is that Ptolemy,

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being an astronomer, drew the map with Europe being on top. He's

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Greek and so so one of the, you know, when people who specialize

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in Cartography or mapmaking, when they analyzed kind of the history

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of where we get the map of today, they found that they traced it

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back to Ptolemy more or less, and they reason that why is it that

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taller?

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He placed Europe

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on the top part of the map, and placed kind of everything else, at

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least at that time, you just had Europe, Africa and parts of Asia,

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and perhaps the Middle East. That was kind of the known world at the

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time that he placed those on the bottom. Well, one of the one of

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the, you know, one of the people that that explored this area, one

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of the cartographers, you know, there's people who make maps and

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study, you know, the construction of maps, they linked this to the

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idea to actually a theological idea, right, that over time, well,

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not necessarily just a theological but a, a, an idea of based on

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power dynamics, right. So if you consider something to be higher,

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to be better, right, so that on top, that thing that's on top is

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going to be better. Okay. So, from that perspective, if you're going

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to draw a map, and you're going to draw your place of residence,

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you're going to draw on top, again, we're talking directional,

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not geo positioning here, you're going to draw on your map, draw

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that particular place, your place of residence to be on top, because

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the idea is that you are in a position of superiority. Now, in

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fact, it also has a theological link, because for quite some time,

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the Catholic Church had this concept ingrained within their

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theology that things that are good, and they give kind of a

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moral qualification to certain things, things that are good, in

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terms of a sense of morality, would be lighter and higher, and

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ethereal, in other words that they raise up. And so when they think

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about things that are evil and bad, they focus on those things

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that are in the core of the earth. So from one perspective, the

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Hellfire would be at the core and the center of the earth. In fact,

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in, in one in one writing, which actually escapes me right now, but

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it was part of a study that was done out of the University of

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Berkeley.

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It was the historians analyzed

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how the, how Christians, how Catholics, how actually, I should

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say, not modern day Catholics, but those that come before modernity,

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part of the Catholic Church, they had categorized certain vegetables

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and certain fruits on this moral scale. So fruits or vegetables

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that you dig out of the ground, you take out of the ground, had

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more of a negative kind of evil sense to them. So things like

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potatoes and carrots, were things that were found on trees were

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considered of a moral have a better had a had ahead had a

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higher moral weight. In other words, they were morally better,

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right? They were good. Okay. Now, so when it comes to maps, perhaps

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after Ptolemy, why this map was adopted in this particular way,

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and stayed like this, or continued like this in Europe, and so on and

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so forth, until it reaches us today, perhaps could be tied to

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Ptolemies actual residence, and further from there could be tied

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to certain elements of Christian theology, that being the case, the

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position isn't something that's necessarily,

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let's say, objectively true. Okay. Why do I say that? Because when

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you look at cartographers out of the Muslim world, for example,

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Muhammad Al idrisi, 12th century geographer, cartographer, you'll

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notice on the map that's there, he actually drew it from our modern

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day perspective, upside down. So what does he do? He places

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obviously places Mecca in the middle, and then he places let's

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say, Yemen, and parts of Africa and so on, so forth on top, and he

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places Europe, right, Spain, and so on, so forth on the bottom. Why

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does he do this? It has to do with his worldview, from his worldview,

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those things that are better, that have more you can say that, that

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that that are superior, obviously, Mecca, being one of them, and you

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know, Yemen, and so on and so forth, that he puts them on top.

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Now the thing is, which map is correct? Like if we were to say,

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Okay, well, I want to know, what's the truth of the matter? Which map

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do I now say that is truth? I mean, obviously, we're not saying

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that there's a, you know, there's some sort of legal or theological

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weight to, you know, picking one or the other. But one does ask the

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question, which one is based in truth, which one's based in

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reality? And the thing is, is that we asked the question, is North

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always up? Imagine if you were to travel to outer space?

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Would you?

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You know, see, would you see North as being up or would you see North

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as being down and the reality is because there's no anchor in outer

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space?

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There is no right or wrong answer to this question. And so, like the

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like I have on the diagram here, depending on where you are, you

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know, you could be, you know, upside down, you could be right

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side up, but then upside down right side up are all based on

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some sort of an anchor, a positional anchor, by which you

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can say that this is true. And this, you know, this is right, and

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this is wrong, this is north, and this is South, or this is up and

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this is down, but up and down are based on a certain position having

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a certain anchor, if you're in outer space. Well, there is no,

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like, there's no specific anchor, you know, you don't have gravity

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will rely upon out there. Yes, maybe from the moon in a specific

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area, but even depending on where you're on the moon. So the picture

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that you see up there, actually, it's a bit difficult to see. But

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in fact, it is almost from our from from from the maps that we're

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used to, it's actually upside down. Right. Okay. So now, the

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idea of, can you trust others, we see that it's not just a matter

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of, can you trust others, because they have some sort of, you know,

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they're giving information based on some sort of malice, but they

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have cognitive limitations themselves, and they have

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cognitive biases yourselves, like those biases that become manifest,

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whether you're talking to me, or you're having the literacy,

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depending on your background, your worldview, those biases become

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manifest. Now, is one or the other true, again, that there's no right

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or wrong answer there. The point is, is that when we say can we

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trust others, again, when we are extending our cognitive

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limitations, by trusting others, we also are subject to their own

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cognitive biases. So if you can't trust yourself 100% Your own

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cognition, your own ability to take in information, and you can't

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trust others? What is the person supposed to do, especially in this

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day and age, with the overwhelming, you know, sheer

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quantity of information. And this is where I'll remind us of our

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central thesis. And that is, the greater your exposure to beauty,

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the greater your ability to see truth as it really is. Because

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what we need to understand is that while rationality is an amazing

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tool, but it is not the end all and be all right, there has to be

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something else that gets us to see truth as it really is. And what

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I'm proposing is that one of those tools is a person's exposure to

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beauty. Okay. Now,

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one of the questions we want to ask, is that is beauty part of our

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meta language? Now, what do I mean by this? You see, when we look at,

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you know, the structure of our language, when we think about

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terms that we use, within our own conversation, our communicative

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ability, we find that there are certain

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terms and specifically here, we're talking about ethical terms that

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are evaluative in nature, and certain terms that are descriptive

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in nature. So in, in, in, in zoos, book, ethical, religious concepts

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in the Quran, he actually says that ethical terms and specially

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we're talking about ethical terms, terms, like, you know, generosity,

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humility, that they can be either on a primary level, or a secondary

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level, if those terms are on a primary level, they are primarily

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descriptive, they're describing something. And if they're on a

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secondary level, they're evaluative. In other words,

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primary words that are describing a certain ethic, are rely are

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reliant upon secondary word, they use that as the basis. So if you

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think about the concept of generosity, all right, so when you

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say, Okay, well, generosity, generosity is good. So generosity

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is your primary descriptive term, if you talk about a person, that

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person is generous, and good is your secondary evaluative term,

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evaluative term, right? The term that's going to give you an

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evaluation, what about generosity? While it's good, okay, humility,

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again, it's a primary term the secondary term here is good,

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humility is good. Now, the question that we want to ask when

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it comes to you know, when it comes to

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our language is is the concept of beauty is that also part of our

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meta language? Now, when I say meta language typically when you

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hear the term meta, it has to do with kind of the the basis or the

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anchor for something right. So when you think of like meta

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ethics, so what is the ethics built upon? What is that thing

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that stable that is built upon what is the anchor? So what is the

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anchor for language itself? What is the meta language? So if we

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talk about something like

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Good. And we have these these three things here that are they're

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presented. Why do you believe in X? I believe in x because it's

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true. True then becomes part of our meta language. It's secondary

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in its nature. Its evaluative. evaluative. Why do you want? Why

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will because it's good. Okay? Again, we find that the term good

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is part of our meta language. And there's not too much, you know,

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you wouldn't find too many people arguing about this. But then when

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you ask the question, why do you look at z?

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And you say, because it's beautiful, is beautiful part of

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our meta language? does it fall in the category of secondary

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evaluative terms? Or is it descriptive? Well, many people

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from you know, from from time immemorial, you can say,

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actually considered beautiful to be part of our meta language, part

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of that evaluation that you would have.

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Now, where the where the where the difference comes in and where the

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problems may arise? Is because someone may say, Well hold on a

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second. But isn't beauty subjective? Like I could look at a

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painting and someone else could look at a painting and I could

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think it's beautiful. And someone who could else else could think

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that it's just It's the ugliest thing I've ever seen. So if beauty

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is subjective, can we really say that it would form part of our

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meta language? Now I'm going to hang that question in abeyance

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this idea of subjective and objective, right? Like, is it? Is

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beauty in the eyes of the beholder? Or are the things that

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are actually beautiful in a straight, objective way? We're

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going to hang that question, we'll return back to it. But it's

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something that I like to think about that many, you know, for

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instance, St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Thomas Aquinas, he attributed the

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idea of beauty to be part of our meta language. And that had to do

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with his idea that these are attributes of God. And therefore,

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they are part of our meta language, because they form that

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the anchor because God is our anchor, right? So God is true,

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right? He's you know, and even from an Islamic worldview, we say

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God is a hawk, he is the truth. So that can form part of our meta

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language. Similarly, God is above, from again, Islamic position,

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therefore we can use good as a part of our meta language. From

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the Islamic standpoint, God is, is Jamil He's beautiful, and he loves

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beauty and therefore we can use beauty as part of our meta

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language. Now, that being said, we said that that was we attribute

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that to St. Thomas Aquinas. And

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and hopefully I'm pronouncing that right, I'm not sure but anyway,

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his name, but there is a similar concept that the scholar in

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Louisville Josie expounds, upon and he talks about this idea of

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matching some of the, the attributes and the qualities of

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Allah of God, right. And it's not that we're trying to be like God,

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in some sort of absolute or in terms of the essence of God, but

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rather we find that God has certain attributes and the

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emulation of those attributes, understanding that we will fall

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far short, then their perfection or their or their maximal

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perfection, is a clear understanding, but we still strive

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for them. So if you look at you mentions that

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one of the the names of God is his Aleem, he is the one that the one

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that's all knowing, and he loves for His creation, his slaves, the

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human beings, to possess knowledge. Similarly, God is Al

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Hakim, he is the wise and he he loves for His servants and slaves

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to have wisdom. He is the one who is unwrap man. And so he is

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someone who who loves for his slaves for loves, for His

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creation, to human beings to have mercy. Rama means the most

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merciful, and so on and so forth. And similarly, we find that he is

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a Jimmy. And so he loves to see beauty that's manifest upon the

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human being. So from that perspective, we could say, we

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could,

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you know, we could put forth the idea that beauty could be part of

00:39:21 --> 00:39:25

our metal language. But again, we've got that issue, especially

00:39:25 --> 00:39:28

when we consider it attached to something that transcends the

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human being that being God. But we still have the issue of beauty

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being subjective versus beauty being objective, which I said I'll

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touch upon in a little bit. Now.

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When we talk about the question of beauty being part of our meta

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language, there's another

00:39:47 --> 00:39:52

you can say secondary question are another secondary issue from a

00:39:52 --> 00:39:55

from an Islamic theological point of view. And that is, is beauty

00:39:55 --> 00:39:59

part of our fitrah. Now I'm going to digress here just for a minute,

00:39:59 --> 00:39:59

just

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You know, in case that you haven't heard some of the other Sapiens

00:40:04 --> 00:40:08

sessions on the fifth or or you haven't read Jamie Turner's

00:40:08 --> 00:40:13

article related regarding the fifth era, it's a great article, I

00:40:13 --> 00:40:18

highly encourage you to go to the Sapiens Institute website and have

00:40:18 --> 00:40:18

a read,

00:40:19 --> 00:40:24

you will thoroughly enjoy it in Sharla, at least I did. So I want

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to digress here just for a second, because I think it's important for

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us to understand and for us to kind of take the point home about

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beauty being part of

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AR, you know, the meta language, but even deeper than that. So as a

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quick for us to quickly understand, and this will have

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this will have, you know, will understand our cognitive

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limitations as well when we understand the idea of the fitrah.

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So, let's start off with rationality as a concept. And

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again, I'm going to try to cover this quickly. If I, if I miss

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something, or something like that, there is plenty of content that we

00:41:04 --> 00:41:08

have, and more content that's coming out, where we dig very deep

00:41:08 --> 00:41:12

into the concept of the fifth rule. So let's talk about

00:41:12 --> 00:41:13

rationality for a second.

00:41:14 --> 00:41:18

When people think about rationality, they generally divide

00:41:18 --> 00:41:21

rationality into two categories, they say you have certain things

00:41:21 --> 00:41:24

that are rational, and certain things that are irrational. Okay,

00:41:24 --> 00:41:28

so an irrational statement is something like, I am five,

00:41:28 --> 00:41:32

straightforward, rational statement, an irrational statement

00:41:32 --> 00:41:38

is something like I have seen a square circle. Now, the first

00:41:38 --> 00:41:41

statement is very clear. It's rational, makes sense? The second

00:41:41 --> 00:41:45

statement, you make come to me and say, Hold on a second. What do you

00:41:45 --> 00:41:48

mean, you see, the square circle? square circle doesn't make any

00:41:48 --> 00:41:52

sense. Because by definition, a square is something that has four

00:41:52 --> 00:41:55

sides. And by definition, a circle that has is something that is

00:41:55 --> 00:41:59

round and lacks, having sides. So you're saying you have something

00:41:59 --> 00:42:02

that has sides? It doesn't have sides at the same time? Well,

00:42:02 --> 00:42:06

that's not rational at all. That's irrational. What if I was

00:42:06 --> 00:42:11

obstinate? I said, No, I believe in square circles, you may then

00:42:11 --> 00:42:17

present to me the I the the specific logical principle, to

00:42:17 --> 00:42:20

say, no, those things that you're speaking about are mutually

00:42:20 --> 00:42:23

exclusive. It goes against the principle of mutual exclusivity.

00:42:24 --> 00:42:29

In other words, mutual exclusivity means you have two terms that

00:42:29 --> 00:42:32

cannot exist at the same time, it cannot be farther, not farther at

00:42:32 --> 00:42:32

the same time.

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What if I come now and say, Well, I don't believe in that principle.

00:42:38 --> 00:42:43

Unless you prove to me that principle is true. Now, the

00:42:43 --> 00:42:46

problem is, you can't prove the principle. You start with the

00:42:46 --> 00:42:51

principle. And so when we think about rationality, we understand

00:42:52 --> 00:42:57

that rationality, as an endeavor, cannot exist, unless there are

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things that are outside of rationality, that we cannot prove,

00:43:01 --> 00:43:05

but we must assume, right, and they're not irrational, but they

00:43:05 --> 00:43:09

lie outside of rationality. In fact, we call them super rational.

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And so logical principles are part of the super rational. So and when

00:43:16 --> 00:43:20

in Islamic parlance, when we're when we're understanding

00:43:20 --> 00:43:23

rationality, as this sort of these three categories of rationality,

00:43:24 --> 00:43:27

the super rational, rational, irrational, we can say that the

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super rational is what we call the fitrah. In Islamic parlance, so

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one we understand that logical principles form part of the super

00:43:37 --> 00:43:37

rational.

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We understand also, though, that concepts of beauty, also form part

00:43:44 --> 00:43:49

of the fitrah. Now, what does the term itself mean very quickly, the

00:43:49 --> 00:43:53

term from an from from, from, from, from an Arabic point of

00:43:53 --> 00:43:57

view, or from, let's say, the Islamic world view, the term

00:43:57 --> 00:44:03

fitrah is that state in which God has created the human being, it's

00:44:03 --> 00:44:09

that primordial base state, that primordial base state that is

00:44:09 --> 00:44:10

good,

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and that is natural. And so therefore, the fitrah is that

00:44:17 --> 00:44:20

which God has created the human being upon so the Quran mentioned

00:44:20 --> 00:44:23

this very clearly about the legality fatness Alia, it is the

00:44:23 --> 00:44:27

fitrah that God has created the human being upon. Now, without

00:44:27 --> 00:44:30

getting into too many details about that there's a there's a lot

00:44:30 --> 00:44:36

we can get into. But understanding that our perception of beauty

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would be part of that, like from if we're gonna look at the

00:44:40 --> 00:44:43

terminology we're using right now the super rational or the fitrah.

00:44:43 --> 00:44:47

Why? Because the you know, questions about beauty are not

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questions that aren't necessarily rational. In fact, they're not

00:44:51 --> 00:44:55

rational. If you were to go out and you know, to, to see a sunset

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with your significant other, and you turned your significant other

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and said

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A wow that sunsets beautiful. And your significant other turns you

00:45:04 --> 00:45:08

and says, that is the ugliest thing that I've ever seen. Prove

00:45:08 --> 00:45:12

to me rationally that that is beautiful. Well, there's no way

00:45:12 --> 00:45:16

you can go much like there's nowhere you can go. If someone

00:45:16 --> 00:45:20

says prove to me the logical principle. So you've got to have,

00:45:20 --> 00:45:25

by necessity, certain items that are outside of rationality that

00:45:25 --> 00:45:29

you cannot prove, but you know, are true, right? And, you know, we

00:45:29 --> 00:45:32

can extend this out to things like your own existence, you can't

00:45:32 --> 00:45:35

prove that you can't prove for instance, the existence of other

00:45:35 --> 00:45:39

minds, you may be able to convince yourself of your, the existence of

00:45:39 --> 00:45:42

your mind by way of your first person experience. But the

00:45:42 --> 00:45:46

existence of other minds, how can you prove that, right, and so on,

00:45:46 --> 00:45:48

and so forth now.

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Because if you were to ask for proof for, let's say, even the

00:45:52 --> 00:45:56

principle or proving everything, the problem is the only place that

00:45:56 --> 00:46:00

you would be left to go to is skepticism. And you'd have because

00:46:00 --> 00:46:04

there's no theorem that is infinitely defendable. You can't

00:46:04 --> 00:46:05

say because this because forever.

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Because if you say that, it means you're saying, I doubt everything.

00:46:11 --> 00:46:14

And if you're saying you doubt everything, you have to doubt,

00:46:14 --> 00:46:19

your doubt, which leaves you intellectually paralyzed. You

00:46:19 --> 00:46:24

know, I remember someone had given the example to say rationality is

00:46:24 --> 00:46:29

an amazing tool, but it still needs something outside of itself

00:46:29 --> 00:46:33

to actually work. It's much like someone who comes to you and says,

00:46:33 --> 00:46:36

I have the perfect solvent. So someone that says, I can

00:46:36 --> 00:46:41

rationally I can I can use my rationality to prove anything, by

00:46:41 --> 00:46:44

way of proof. In other words, I can prove it is like someone who

00:46:44 --> 00:46:48

says, I have this solvent, this thing that can doesn't dissolve

00:46:48 --> 00:46:51

things, and it is the perfect solvent, it will dissolve

00:46:51 --> 00:46:55

anything, right? I can prove anything it can the solvent

00:46:55 --> 00:46:59

dissolve anything? Well, you want to ask that person? What bottle

00:46:59 --> 00:46:59

will you keep it in.

00:47:01 --> 00:47:03

Because even though if you had the absolute solvent, and it may be a

00:47:03 --> 00:47:06

great tool, you still need a bottle to keep it in that bottle

00:47:06 --> 00:47:12

is going to be absolute AB solute that which is not soluble, that

00:47:12 --> 00:47:15

which is not solvable, right? You cannot solve it, when we're

00:47:15 --> 00:47:19

talking about rationality, that which is not soluble, anyhow. So

00:47:19 --> 00:47:23

you always need an absolute, as part of your structure, something

00:47:23 --> 00:47:29

that you cannot prove, but you must assume moving forward. Now is

00:47:29 --> 00:47:33

beauty part of the fitrah. And we would say that beauty is indeed

00:47:33 --> 00:47:37

part of the fitrah, because it is not a particular concept that

00:47:37 --> 00:47:39

you're trying to prove. And in fact, we're going to get into some

00:47:39 --> 00:47:44

more details relate to that as well. All right, before we get

00:47:44 --> 00:47:49

into analyzing beauty, you know, whether it's part of the fitrah,

00:47:49 --> 00:47:52

and then going back to our thesis, about beauty and exposure to

00:47:52 --> 00:47:57

beauty, giving us you know, access to the truth or being able to

00:47:57 --> 00:48:02

allowing us to see truth as it really is. I found in a book by

00:48:02 --> 00:48:06

Roger Scruton called Beauty, a very short introduction, he

00:48:06 --> 00:48:09

presents certain platitudes. Now notice, he doesn't present these

00:48:09 --> 00:48:13

as axioms, he doesn't present these as first principles, but

00:48:13 --> 00:48:16

there's their platitudes. And so there may be some opinion to

00:48:16 --> 00:48:20

relate to this. But I think it's a good starting point. So when we

00:48:20 --> 00:48:24

are conceptualizing beauty, we're trying to understand beauty. We

00:48:24 --> 00:48:27

see that number one, one of his platitudes is that beauty pleases

00:48:27 --> 00:48:33

us, when you are looking at something, one of the reasons why

00:48:33 --> 00:48:35

you're looking at it is because it there's a certain type of

00:48:35 --> 00:48:39

pleasure. And we're not talking about a physical, visceral

00:48:39 --> 00:48:43

pleasure. But this pleasure is of a different nature. So it's

00:48:43 --> 00:48:48

pleasing, but it has a different sort of content than something

00:48:48 --> 00:48:50

that would be which would attribute to like a physical

00:48:50 --> 00:48:51

pleasure, okay.

00:48:53 --> 00:48:57

Number two, one thing can be more beautiful than another. So you may

00:48:57 --> 00:49:00

be able to see one painting, and compare it to another painting and

00:49:00 --> 00:49:03

say, Okay, well, this one is more beautiful in this one. So there is

00:49:03 --> 00:49:08

this ability to be able to compare things and give things a value on

00:49:08 --> 00:49:12

the scale of beauty. Number three, beauty is always a reason for

00:49:12 --> 00:49:15

attending to the thing that possesses it. Okay, when you see

00:49:15 --> 00:49:19

something that's beautiful, your attention is drawn there because

00:49:19 --> 00:49:21

of the beauty because of the content of the beauty. That's

00:49:21 --> 00:49:25

there. Beauty number four beauty is the subject matter of a

00:49:25 --> 00:49:32

judgment, the judgment of taste. Okay, so the idea that that's been

00:49:32 --> 00:49:37

that's been put forth here is that when you are exposed to something

00:49:37 --> 00:49:41

that is beautiful, there's going to be a judgment involved, is it

00:49:41 --> 00:49:45

beautiful, how beautiful is it etc. And that has to do with the

00:49:45 --> 00:49:50

concept of taste. You have a certain aesthetic taste, you say I

00:49:50 --> 00:49:53

like this or I don't like that. And this goes back to our concept

00:49:53 --> 00:49:57

of subjective versus objective, right? Like is beauty is all

00:49:57 --> 00:49:59

beauty subjective, or is there some of this object

00:50:00 --> 00:50:03

due for that beauty that's subjective, we could say it's a

00:50:03 --> 00:50:06

matter of aesthetic taste, or some sort of tastes that a person has,

00:50:07 --> 00:50:10

much like the judgment of food, when you would have certain types

00:50:10 --> 00:50:13

of food that you eat, you may like them, and person number two may

00:50:13 --> 00:50:17

not. And you may be able to categorize food in certain foods

00:50:17 --> 00:50:19

that you like, versus certain things that you don't like, in

00:50:19 --> 00:50:23

terms of that physical phenomena of taste, that experience of

00:50:23 --> 00:50:24

taste,

00:50:25 --> 00:50:30

by way of the, by, by way of your sense perception of the tongue.

00:50:30 --> 00:50:34

Okay? Number five, the judgment of taste is about the beautiful

00:50:34 --> 00:50:38

object, not about the subject, state of mind. So when you make a

00:50:38 --> 00:50:42

judgment about taste, and here, we're talking about taste being

00:50:42 --> 00:50:43

related to beauty,

00:50:45 --> 00:50:48

you're making a judgment about the object you're not making about,

00:50:48 --> 00:50:52

you're not making a judgment based on the subject state of mind,

00:50:52 --> 00:50:56

meaning you're not looking at, let's say, the painter's state of

00:50:56 --> 00:50:59

mind, right, you're looking at what the output is. And number

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six, nevertheless, there are no second hand judgments of beauty.

00:51:04 --> 00:51:06

And this, I think, is really interesting. Because if you've

00:51:06 --> 00:51:10

ever had a conversation with someone about a particular thing

00:51:10 --> 00:51:14

being beautiful, and they disagreed with you, there's no way

00:51:14 --> 00:51:18

to win that argument. Right? And so there's no second judgments

00:51:18 --> 00:51:23

about beauty because that is for you to make that almost direct

00:51:23 --> 00:51:24

interpretation.

00:51:25 --> 00:51:31

Okay. Now, one of the things that we need to understand is that when

00:51:31 --> 00:51:36

we experience beauty, it has a connection to meaning. Now,

00:51:36 --> 00:51:40

remember, when we started off, I said that, you know, that we

00:51:40 --> 00:51:45

talked about cognitive biases and cognitive limitations. And while

00:51:45 --> 00:51:48

rationality is a great tool,

00:51:49 --> 00:51:52

to judge whether something is true or not,

00:51:53 --> 00:51:58

it, we need other things to be able to understand the the truth

00:51:58 --> 00:52:02

of kind of in its entirety, okay. And so when we think about truth,

00:52:03 --> 00:52:08

as, as an endeavor, we have to understand that the idea of

00:52:08 --> 00:52:13

meaning is very important to that to this journey that we're gonna

00:52:13 --> 00:52:17

be taking to find truth. Okay. And so one of this section, when we're

00:52:17 --> 00:52:20

talking about conceptualizing beauty, what I'm trying to do is

00:52:20 --> 00:52:25

connect beauty to meaning, meaning that there is when we think about

00:52:25 --> 00:52:28

beauty, we think about the phenomenology of beauty, we see

00:52:28 --> 00:52:32

that it has a connection to meaning it points to something

00:52:32 --> 00:52:40

that's deeper than just a sort of just a sort of a cold cerebral

00:52:40 --> 00:52:44

sensation, right, there has to be something more. Okay. And I'm

00:52:44 --> 00:52:48

going to do that by citing a few examples. So if you see the

00:52:48 --> 00:52:53

picture on the screen, right, now, we see that you have a dining

00:52:53 --> 00:52:59

table that set. Now, there is a difference when you set up a

00:52:59 --> 00:53:05

dining table for you know, for a certain purpose, or you set up a

00:53:05 --> 00:53:06

dining table

00:53:08 --> 00:53:10

with the purpose of beautifying it,

00:53:11 --> 00:53:15

you know, these are two different phenomena. Okay, so what I've got

00:53:15 --> 00:53:18

up here is aesthetic versus utilitarian interest, if you're

00:53:18 --> 00:53:21

just focused on the utility, in other words, you're just setting

00:53:21 --> 00:53:25

up the table so that people can conveniently eat, you might take

00:53:25 --> 00:53:29

out some paper plates, put it in a stack, put on a couple of dishes,

00:53:29 --> 00:53:32

and so on and so forth. And people could just directly take the food

00:53:32 --> 00:53:34

and the paper plates and you call it a day.

00:53:36 --> 00:53:41

But yet, when someone sets a table, we understand that they are

00:53:41 --> 00:53:45

transcending just the idea of utility. Like if you look at the

00:53:45 --> 00:53:48

picture here, you see there are a lot of things that you may

00:53:48 --> 00:53:53

consider from a utilitarian viewpoint suppler. First, you've

00:53:53 --> 00:53:58

got the candles, you've got the greenery, you've got the glass,

00:53:58 --> 00:54:03

the napkin and how it's laid. And so what you experience is

00:54:03 --> 00:54:10

something that's beyond just the the practicality of serving food.

00:54:10 --> 00:54:14

All right, so what does and so why would you set a table like that,

00:54:15 --> 00:54:19

because as a person who's hosting a dinner, you may consider that to

00:54:19 --> 00:54:24

that it's a reflection of you. It's a reflection of your taste,

00:54:24 --> 00:54:27

it's a reflection of, you know, how much you care for the other

00:54:27 --> 00:54:34

person. So when you transcend mere utility, you are saying something

00:54:34 --> 00:54:38

about yourself and you're saying something about your guest. And so

00:54:38 --> 00:54:42

there's a deeper meaning to the aesthetic setting of a table

00:54:42 --> 00:54:46

versus just the utility. And so, we see that beauty is connected to

00:54:46 --> 00:54:50

meaning when we compare the aesthetic to you know, when we

00:54:51 --> 00:54:54

think of aesthetic interest versus utilitarian interest. So we see

00:54:54 --> 00:54:57

the first connection of beauty to meaning is that which says

00:54:57 --> 00:54:59

something about it

00:55:00 --> 00:55:02

The person that's let's say, in this example setting the table,

00:55:03 --> 00:55:07

and about how much that person cares about the person they're

00:55:07 --> 00:55:08

inviting over.

00:55:10 --> 00:55:10

Okay?

00:55:12 --> 00:55:16

Let's take a look at art versus entertainment. Now, I've been told

00:55:16 --> 00:55:21

many times to keep my comic book references to a minimum. And so

00:55:21 --> 00:55:24

this will be the only slide related to any sort of reference

00:55:24 --> 00:55:27

to comic books, or comic book characters, superheroes or

00:55:27 --> 00:55:30

anything like that. Beauty is connected, meaning we said that

00:55:30 --> 00:55:34

that's point something deeper, and we can see this when we find the

00:55:34 --> 00:55:40

difference between art and entertainment. Okay, when we are

00:55:40 --> 00:55:42

discussing art,

00:55:44 --> 00:55:51

we're discussing something that goes beyond just a fleeting

00:55:53 --> 00:55:56

sensation of being entertained, okay, and the example that I have

00:55:56 --> 00:56:00

up there is that I get into a conversation with a certain

00:56:00 --> 00:56:07

person, which will go unnamed, and we discuss Marvel vs. DC. Okay, so

00:56:07 --> 00:56:11

if you don't know what I'm talking about, it's okay. DC is a type of

00:56:11 --> 00:56:14

comic book, they have their own characters. And Marvel is a type

00:56:14 --> 00:56:17

of compact, they have their own characters. Now, one of the things

00:56:17 --> 00:56:20

about Marvel characters and Marvel movies is that they are very

00:56:20 --> 00:56:25

entertaining. So if I'm going to go and watch a Marvel movie, I'm

00:56:25 --> 00:56:30

going, you know, you know, solely for the entertainment factor, that

00:56:30 --> 00:56:32

I get the pleasure of watching, you know, the action scenes and

00:56:32 --> 00:56:36

things like that. And then I'm done. When it comes to DC

00:56:36 --> 00:56:41

characters, like Batman, and let's say, there's a whole depth behind

00:56:41 --> 00:56:44

the character, there's a backstory, his, you know, parents

00:56:44 --> 00:56:46

were killed. And that's what prompted him to become a

00:56:46 --> 00:56:49

superhero, and blah, blah, blah, and all these other things. And

00:56:49 --> 00:56:55

all of that is trying is being captured in the form of how the

00:56:55 --> 00:56:58

how the story is being told. And within the cinematography, the

00:56:58 --> 00:57:02

darkness of the shot, and so on, and so forth. And all of that is

00:57:02 --> 00:57:08

an artistic expression. That has to do with meaning. Because when

00:57:08 --> 00:57:11

someone is trying to put forth a type of artistic expression,

00:57:11 --> 00:57:16

again, it's saying something about the artists themselves and saying

00:57:16 --> 00:57:19

something about the output, that when you're engaged with this

00:57:19 --> 00:57:23

particular type of film, or you're engaged with this particular type

00:57:23 --> 00:57:26

of painting, or you're engaged with this particular type of, you

00:57:26 --> 00:57:31

know, whatever it might be, that you're going to now think about

00:57:31 --> 00:57:36

things on a level that's deeper, that's beyond just the action

00:57:36 --> 00:57:40

sequence, right? So we find that when it comes to the company, when

00:57:40 --> 00:57:43

we compare art versus entertainment, art, entertainment

00:57:43 --> 00:57:47

is merely kind of, kind of,

00:57:49 --> 00:57:53

kind of touching our, our, our essential buttons, for lack of a

00:57:54 --> 00:57:57

better phrase, whereas art is pushing us to think about things

00:57:57 --> 00:58:02

deeper. So certain movies that you watch their, their, you know, the

00:58:02 --> 00:58:08

story is very deep, the, you know, the way that the story is

00:58:08 --> 00:58:13

portrayed on screen, every single shot has a certain meaning. And

00:58:13 --> 00:58:16

every single shot, the reason why they take the shot from that

00:58:16 --> 00:58:22

particular angle means something. So because of the director, or the

00:58:22 --> 00:58:26

film photographer, is in the position to say, Okay, well, we

00:58:26 --> 00:58:29

want this angle with this lighting, and so on and so forth,

00:58:29 --> 00:58:34

to give people a feeling of x, that has to do more with an

00:58:34 --> 00:58:37

artistic expression, as opposed to just merely entertaining people.

00:58:37 --> 00:58:41

So when we compare art versus entertainment, we see again, that

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the focus on beauty is pointing towards something deeper, and

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pointing towards something of meaning of significance. By the

00:58:50 --> 00:58:52

way, that's not to say that Marvel movies are insignificant. All

00:58:52 --> 00:58:53

right.

00:58:54 --> 00:58:59

All right. Let's give one more example. And hopefully to take the

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point home about beauty being connected to meaning because it

00:59:01 --> 00:59:05

points to something deeper. And we're talking in this slide, we're

00:59:05 --> 00:59:11

talking about pros versus poetry. Now prose is something that you're

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going to read for the sake of information. All right, and I have

00:59:13 --> 00:59:17

up there an organic chemistry textbook. Now, for those of you

00:59:17 --> 00:59:19

who have studied organic chemistry, or are, you know,

00:59:19 --> 00:59:22

thinking that they might go to medical school, or whatever it

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might be whatever purpose, you're studying organic chemistry, I

00:59:25 --> 00:59:29

think we can pretty much agree that when you get a organic

00:59:29 --> 00:59:32

chemistry textbook, and you read through it, it's not something

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you're going to come back to for any other purpose except to get

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the information, extract information, and perhaps to just

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pass the exam that you have to take to move forward. So you're

00:59:45 --> 00:59:49

really it's just again, it's very cold and cerebral. It's just

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extract information and move on. You don't return back to it. In

00:59:53 --> 00:59:56

fact, you know, for those you who have gone, you know, past your

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undergraduate level, you may be your doctors, whatever it might be

00:59:59 --> 01:00:00

you

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Probably haven't, you'd probably have sold your organic chemistry

01:00:02 --> 01:00:05

textbook. I guess maybe I'm talking back in the days where

01:00:05 --> 01:00:08

they had textbooks nowadays everything is on, you know, some

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sort of a tablet or something like that. But in those days, you

01:00:11 --> 01:00:14

probably have sold your organic chemist textbook. Why? Because

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it's not something you're going to return back to. There's nothing

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prompting you to do that, with the exception of extracting

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information. Once you've done that, you're done. Poetry is not

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like that. Poetry is something that when you read it, you want to

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go back to it, because it signifies something very deep. And

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there's a there's something about the poem, that you're you go back

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to it again, and again, because it gives you a type of pleasure.

01:00:42 --> 01:00:45

That again, we were talking about beauty, giving the person a type

01:00:45 --> 01:00:53

of pleasure, that isn't this visceral, sensual pleasure, yet it

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is a type of pleasure. So I have a poem up here from Emily Dickinson.

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And I'd like us to really just read it and reflect upon it

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because I thought it was very powerful. So, Emily Dickinson

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writes, she says, hope is the Thing With Feathers, to really

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just ponder upon this. Hope is the Thing With Feathers, that perches

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in the soul that sings the tune without words and never stops at

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all. You know, you think about something like hope, and the

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concept of hope that she's now given it this this this, this,

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this physical effort this, that she's she's anthropomorphized,

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Oprah she's making she's made it into something physical, right,

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which is this bird. And there's a certain beauty about that. So hope

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is the Thing With Feathers that perches in the soul.

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That sing the tune without words and never stops at all. The

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sweetest in the Gale is heard. And soar must be the storm of you

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know, when you think about the vicissitudes of life, and the

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thing that's getting you through, it's that hope, right? And so and

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soar must be the storm that could abash The little bird that kept so

01:02:04 --> 01:02:09

many warm. I've heard it in the chilliest in the chilliest land,

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and on the strangest sea, yet never in extremity, it asked a

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chrome of me.

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So I don't know if you experienced that. But I personally found this

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very profound, something that you would go back and perhaps read

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again, just because there was there was information in a sense

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that was conveyed. But there was something that transcended the

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information. There's something that was more, that was something

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that was beautiful about it. And it had a deep meaning related to

01:02:39 --> 01:02:43

this concept of hope. Right? I mean, everyone goes through the

01:02:43 --> 01:02:46

vicissitudes of life, the ups and downs, and experiences either hope

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or a lack of hope. And when you read this, it's very powerful. So

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when we talk about beauty being connected to meaning, we're seeing

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that it points to something deeper, and one of the one of the

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sample, one of the examples here is when we compare pros, simple

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kind of information transfer, or just gaining information versus

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poetry. Alright, there's one other element related to poetry that I

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wanted to touch upon that has to do with content and form. Right.

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So when we think about poetry, you have the poem itself, and the

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structure of the poem. In other words, there were certain words

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that the author put together in a very specific structure, that

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allow the person to taste or sense or experience the beauty, when

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that form is broken, or that form is done away with that element of

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beauty can be lost, okay. And a lot of times that happens when we

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talk about translation, you translate a poem from one language

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to the other, there's going to be a certain loss, that that is felt.

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And so now we come to the concept of content versus form. There's

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the actual content of the poem. And then there's the form, and

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where beauty comes in is related to the form and the content and

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when these two are separated, this becomes problematic because it

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then loses the aspect of you it could lose the aspect of beauty.

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So you have a poem here from the from the man who was known as the

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poet of the East, right? Muhammad Akbar Rahim Allah in his poem

01:04:26 --> 01:04:30

Balaji read, write or you know, Gabriel's when he says and this

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poem is in is an order so for those of you who who speak what to

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do, or know or to do, you may be able to, to say I'm not going to

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read the whole thing, but the poem starts off. Garfield, Garfield,

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Hermosa Lamar, Dona Shahi Norfolk Ed, right. So if if a if a Muslim

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is a Kaffir, right, if a Muslim is a non Muslim, then there is

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neither kingship nor poverty. Now the thing that I want us to note

01:04:56 --> 01:05:00

is that you find that there's a few words in the phrase

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As phrase in order to do, which then you need a lot more words in

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English to explain in a sense, the particular verse that I just read,

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okay? But the verse in order actually has a certain type of

01:05:11 --> 01:05:16

beauty, a certain cadence, a certain rhythm by the, by the

01:05:16 --> 01:05:20

words that the poet put together in a way that the English doesn't,

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because the English almost sounds, you know, empty, right? If a

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Muslim is a golfer that there is neither functional property, but

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if he is a movement, then he rules even in poverty. And if he's a

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Kaffir, then he relies on the sword and so on and so forth. And

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then when you compare that to movement, head or moment had to

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cut her hair, for Katie may be

01:05:42 --> 01:05:47

shy, that that, but if he's a movement, then he rules even in

01:05:47 --> 01:05:52

poverty. He's equating this person who's a true believer that it

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doesn't you know, that even when he's in the state of poverty, in

01:05:56 --> 01:05:58

fact, he has this type of kingship, he has this type of

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royalty, and so on and so forth. The point I'm trying to make here

01:06:02 --> 01:06:06

is the idea of separating content and form and this happens a lot

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when we go into translations. Okay. Now, can a poem be contained

01:06:11 --> 01:06:16

in a paraphrase? Can you put a poem in a separate set of words or

01:06:16 --> 01:06:20

translate a poem, Clintons Brooks, he talks about this idea of the

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heresy of paraphrase, which ties in with the with the last point I

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was making, and he has a few points where he says that there's

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a certain heresy, there's a certain No No, when it comes to

01:06:31 --> 01:06:35

trying to paraphrase a poem. And here's why. Number one, poetry can

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express several thoughts at the same time.

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Whereas when you try to translate it, or you try to paraphrase it,

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you're not going to have the same effect. Poems can be

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polysemous, right? Meaning is conveyed on several levels. So

01:06:52 --> 01:06:55

when we looked at the poem related to hope, there are a number of

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levels that were conveyed as part of the poem, which when you try to

01:06:59 --> 01:07:05

paraphrase it get lost, meaning is lost in any paraphrase, right to

01:07:05 --> 01:07:09

be or not to be, so on, so forth. That's the example he gave. So

01:07:09 --> 01:07:12

when you try to paraphrase it, or let's say the extreme form of

01:07:12 --> 01:07:15

paraphrasing would be translating, you're going to have certain

01:07:15 --> 01:07:19

meanings that are lost. Alright? In meanings meaning, specifically

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here, we're talking about the idea of beauty, pointing towards

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meaning. Number four, sound is important. How many times have you

01:07:27 --> 01:07:32

heard a poem that when it's recited in, in a certain

01:07:32 --> 01:07:35

gathering, or it's got a certain rhyme or certain structure, or a

01:07:35 --> 01:07:41

certain, a certain cadence, that when it's explained, it doesn't

01:07:42 --> 01:07:46

have the same cadence, it doesn't have the same beauty. And so sound

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is important. And so, we find that there are the idea of trying to

01:07:51 --> 01:07:56

paraphrase, a poem becomes problematic, because then in

01:07:56 --> 01:07:59

essence, you're, you're kind of stripping away the concept of

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beauty itself. All right.

01:08:01 --> 01:08:04

Now, remember, I said we were going to return back, and I know

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I'm running out of time here. But remember, I said, we're gonna run

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turn back to the idea of subjective versus objective, okay?

01:08:12 --> 01:08:16

Is beauty part of the super rational? Is it something that's

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part of our meta language, that when you think about human work,

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beauty that's created by human beings, whether that be poetry,

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whether that be a painting, whether that be some sort of

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photography, photography, whatever it might be, that there's going to

01:08:29 --> 01:08:33

be a certain bias. So just like there are cognitive biases, when

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it comes to the human being, there's going to be certain

01:08:37 --> 01:08:40

artistic biases, for lack of a better term, when it comes to the

01:08:40 --> 01:08:44

human being as well. And that's why you can have a degree of

01:08:44 --> 01:08:48

subjectivity when it comes to art that's produced by human being,

01:08:48 --> 01:08:51

right? Human beings. And we're going to enter in some area of

01:08:51 --> 01:08:57

theology now, from an Islamic worldview framework, human beings

01:08:58 --> 01:09:00

are not perfect beings, they're created beings, and hence they

01:09:00 --> 01:09:05

have limitations. And because of those limitations, those things

01:09:05 --> 01:09:07

that are produced by the human beings are also going to be

01:09:07 --> 01:09:14

subject to limitations, whereas perfection is for God alone. And

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so when it comes to the natural world, this is where now we can

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say that we can experience objective beauty. All right, why?

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Because nature is unbiased. Now both of them in this diagram are

01:09:28 --> 01:09:31

pointing towards meaning. When you look at a poem, you're asking,

01:09:31 --> 01:09:35

what is the meaning of the person that compose the poem? What is the

01:09:35 --> 01:09:37

meaning in terms of what they think about me remember the dining

01:09:37 --> 01:09:41

table and things like that. But at the same time, we could apply the

01:09:41 --> 01:09:46

same idea when it comes to the the natural world. All right, and this

01:09:46 --> 01:09:49

is something that while you know that when we say that nature is

01:09:49 --> 01:09:53

unbiased, this is I would say true, no matter what your

01:09:53 --> 01:09:55

worldview is, no matter what your paradigm is, whether you're coming

01:09:55 --> 01:09:59

from an Islamic paradigm, or any paradigm and we see

01:10:00 --> 01:10:04

do this even in our in our in our, in our day to day, right? Because

01:10:05 --> 01:10:10

when you, let's say, buy us a type of cereal, one of the things that

01:10:10 --> 01:10:15

marketers understand very well is that they slap a nice, not all

01:10:15 --> 01:10:19

natural label on it. Well, why did they do that? Well, the reason is

01:10:19 --> 01:10:22

because something with inside ourselves

01:10:23 --> 01:10:27

points to the idea that if it's natural, if it's part of nature,

01:10:27 --> 01:10:32

nature is unbiased. Nature doesn't have cognitive biases. And so if

01:10:32 --> 01:10:35

it's natural, it's something that we should inclined towards we

01:10:35 --> 01:10:39

naturally inclined towards it, right. And so and so that

01:10:39 --> 01:10:43

inclination, marketers understand very well. So if you have a type

01:10:43 --> 01:10:46

of cereal that's all natural, that's going to be better than a

01:10:46 --> 01:10:51

sugar a, a processed sugar filled cereal, even though both of them

01:10:51 --> 01:10:53

are probably processed. But that's besides the point, right? But you

01:10:53 --> 01:10:57

understand that, and we understand that even when we look at the

01:10:57 --> 01:10:58

world around us. Now,

01:10:59 --> 01:11:03

let's take a look at the experience of natural beauty. So

01:11:03 --> 01:11:06

what you see there is a painting of the Niagara Falls. Alright, so

01:11:06 --> 01:11:11

if you've ever visited Niagara Falls, it is breathtaking. And it

01:11:11 --> 01:11:15

is just amazing. The cannabis side, maybe not so much the

01:11:15 --> 01:11:18

American side. But anyway, it's breathtaking. And here's a

01:11:18 --> 01:11:23

painting of Niagara Falls. And so one of the things that we can see

01:11:23 --> 01:11:28

right away, is that when we look at the painting, there is a

01:11:28 --> 01:11:29

framing that's going on.

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When you think about the Niagara Falls, if you've ever visited it,

01:11:34 --> 01:11:38

you find that there's no concept of framing your direct experience,

01:11:38 --> 01:11:42

it's like there's no end from one end to another, you're just taking

01:11:42 --> 01:11:46

it all in, someone that's painting the Niagara Falls or taking a

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picture of Niagara Falls is going to be limited by the frame. And

01:11:51 --> 01:11:55

therefore there's going to be a limitation. And so depending on

01:11:55 --> 01:11:59

the person and the frame that they've chosen, again, the human

01:11:59 --> 01:12:03

side coming in, you could either experience that video or not. But

01:12:03 --> 01:12:07

being at the Niagara Falls, and just seeing the vastness of the

01:12:07 --> 01:12:11

Niagara Falls itself, this is a different phenomenon altogether.

01:12:11 --> 01:12:14

This is something that touches much deeper within the human

01:12:14 --> 01:12:17

being, these are two very different experiences. So you find

01:12:17 --> 01:12:19

the painting, you find,

01:12:20 --> 01:12:23

you know, the fact that it is framed, and the fact that there is

01:12:23 --> 01:12:26

a certain bias depending on the choice of the person who's doing

01:12:26 --> 01:12:31

the painting. Okay, so when we experience natural beauty, you

01:12:31 --> 01:12:34

find the painting picture, there's framing, there's a human angle and

01:12:34 --> 01:12:34

a bias.

01:12:35 --> 01:12:42

The natural world itself, it's vast, open and endless. There's no

01:12:42 --> 01:12:46

human angle or bias, it's direct, right? You're directly

01:12:46 --> 01:12:51

experiencing that the the the, the the experience of beauty, right?

01:12:52 --> 01:12:56

It's not contained. Right, it's not contained in a certain frame

01:12:56 --> 01:13:01

or a certain, a certain area, rather, it's fast. And here's the

01:13:01 --> 01:13:04

other thing, which is really phenomenal, is that if you go to

01:13:04 --> 01:13:07

somewhere like the Niagara Falls, or let's say Mount Cook, if you've

01:13:07 --> 01:13:12

ever been to New Zealand, and it's a beautiful mountain pass, and

01:13:12 --> 01:13:13

it's just gorgeous.

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It makes you feel small,

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like looking up at the night sky. And that's a very interesting

01:13:21 --> 01:13:26

phenomenon. Because on one hand, you're experiencing the beauty,

01:13:26 --> 01:13:30

let's say of the mountain or of the falls, but at the same time

01:13:30 --> 01:13:33

you have this type of this type of fear.

01:13:34 --> 01:13:38

Now I'm kind of using the word fear, hear a bit loosely, we in

01:13:38 --> 01:13:42

English, we call it all right, the experience that you have, it's,

01:13:42 --> 01:13:46

it's also in the sense it's combining beauty and combining

01:13:46 --> 01:13:51

fear kind of at the same time. And it's a difficult experience to, to

01:13:51 --> 01:13:55

verbalize to put into words. Right. So someone says, Have you

01:13:55 --> 01:13:57

seen the Niagara Falls, you just gotta go there and check it out

01:13:57 --> 01:13:59

yourself. Right. Okay.

01:14:01 --> 01:14:02

So,

01:14:03 --> 01:14:08

let's talk a little bit about all and then I'll conclude, Inshallah,

01:14:08 --> 01:14:11

because I know we are running short on time. So

01:14:12 --> 01:14:16

Michelle is Shioda and Dr. Keltner, Decker, Keltner excuse

01:14:16 --> 01:14:19

me, at the University California, Berkeley, they've done a lot of

01:14:19 --> 01:14:24

work and research in the idea and the concept of art. So when they

01:14:24 --> 01:14:27

wanted to define all they said, All has been defined as an

01:14:27 --> 01:14:34

emotional response to perceptually vast stimuli that overwhelm

01:14:34 --> 01:14:37

current mental structures yet facilitate attempts at

01:14:37 --> 01:14:41

accommodation. I think that's a pretty, pretty good, pretty good

01:14:41 --> 01:14:43

definition, right? If we're going to try to

01:14:44 --> 01:14:48

put the concept of onto words. Now.

01:14:49 --> 01:14:54

One of the, through their studies, you know, Michelle Shioda and Dr.

01:14:55 --> 01:14:58

Decker Keltner. Some of the work that they've done, they came to

01:14:58 --> 01:14:59

certain conclusions, so

01:15:00 --> 01:15:05

One of the one of the conclusions when it comes to experiencing art,

01:15:05 --> 01:15:08

the conclusion they came to was that it leads to decreased ego and

01:15:08 --> 01:15:12

heightened cognition. All right. Now let's stop for a second, we

01:15:12 --> 01:15:16

started this conversation, we started this, we started this

01:15:16 --> 01:15:22

session with how can we know truth as truth? And one of the things

01:15:22 --> 01:15:26

is, is that and one of the one of the thesis that I had put forth,

01:15:27 --> 01:15:32

was that, that the more a person experiences beauty, the more they

01:15:32 --> 01:15:36

see truth as truth. In the studies that they did, they found that

01:15:36 --> 01:15:41

when a person was exposed to to the natural world, it led to a

01:15:41 --> 01:15:45

state of awe and what were the what were the what were the what

01:15:45 --> 01:15:49

were the, what were the results of being exposed, or experiencing the

01:15:49 --> 01:15:54

state of all, it was heightened cognition, and a decreased ego. So

01:15:54 --> 01:15:58

they were less self centered, and more charitable. And we'll get

01:15:58 --> 01:16:02

into, I don't know if we have the time, but we'll try to touch upon

01:16:02 --> 01:16:06

some of the studies. And one of the things experiences that when

01:16:06 --> 01:16:10

they were put to test when they're given cognitive test, they found

01:16:10 --> 01:16:15

that being experiencing all led to a heightened cognition.

01:16:16 --> 01:16:19

Now one of the things is, is that when it comes to when a person is

01:16:19 --> 01:16:25

going to accept the truth, these are two things that can block a

01:16:25 --> 01:16:28

person from the truth a, not being able to understand it properly

01:16:28 --> 01:16:31

lowered cognition, and that's pretty clear. But the other thing

01:16:31 --> 01:16:35

that blocks a person from the truth can be their own ego and

01:16:35 --> 01:16:40

arrogance, right, from an Islamic worldview. We see that you know

01:16:40 --> 01:16:44

that these are two key areas in which a person can be blocked from

01:16:44 --> 01:16:49

the truth. So the Hadith here from Abdullah and Massoud radula, on

01:16:49 --> 01:16:54

who said the proxy Salam said, no one will enter paradise who has an

01:16:54 --> 01:16:57

Adam's weight of arrogance in his heart. And the man said, what if a

01:16:57 --> 01:17:02

man likes his clothes to look good? And his shoes to look good?

01:17:03 --> 01:17:07

So the Prophet SAW Selim then says, Allah is beautiful, and he

01:17:07 --> 01:17:11

loves beauty. Hola, hola. Jamil. Where your humble Japan right? In

01:17:11 --> 01:17:14

Allah. Hi, Jimmy where you humble Japan? So he says Allah is

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beautiful and he loves beauty. I'll Killebrew butter will have

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wantonness that Kibber arrogance is rejecting the truth and looking

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down upon people, right? And why do you look down upon people?

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Well, it's because of arrogance, right? Because of, you know,

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that's why you look down or you think that you're better than

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them.

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So what's interesting about this particular narration, is that

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there's a juxtaposition between beauty and arrogance, which I

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think is really fascinating, right? That you have this concept

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of beauty, and so on, and so forth. And it being juxtaposed

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with the concept of arrogance. Now, let's get into some of the

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studies. One of the studies that was done, and I'll try to cover

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these as quick as possible in sha Allah

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was the study of the effect on on cognition. So what they did is

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they expose people to various natural phenomena, right, whether

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that was mountains or nature in some way. And then they would have

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the have the participants listen to a story for about five minutes,

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the story was about a romantic dinner. And these people went out

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and it gets into some details, you know, the guy was wearing a black

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tuxedo, the woman was wearing a dress, you know that the waiter

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came, and yada, yada, yada, okay, that goes into this whole story

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five minutes. And then at the end, the participant was asked, was

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there a candle on the table? Now, one of the things is that as human

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beings, we take certain cognitive shortcuts we use,

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we use these cognitive shortcuts to kind of fill in the gaps. All

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right, so when you think about a romantic dinner, you may by way of

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like certain by waves or cognition, you may assume there's

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a candle on the table because of what you already know about

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romantic dinners. In this story, there wasn't one.

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So those, you know those.

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Well, I'm forgetting the term now. They're called

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Well, it'll come back to me in Sharla stuff a lot. All right. So

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those cognitive shortcuts that that that are taken, kind of place

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a candle on the table. Now the people that were subjected to to

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the natural world In other words, you experiencing ah, they answered

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the correct they exited correctly, that there was no candle more

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often that people were not subject to All right, so you have the the

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first study script Selvin script relevant false items. Wasn't a

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candlelit table, correct answers No. Those people that experienced

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all you see on the graph there, that they answered it correctly,

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more often than those who were

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or we're neutral, not exposed to all.

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All right, all awakens the mind. Alright, so now we're looking at

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various emotions. So when someone is in a state of awe, they did

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that by exposing people to nature, when they were instead of

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enthusiasm, contentment, pride, all went out 100% of the time when

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it came to to cognition, and sharpening and heightening one's

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cognition. All right, what about ego? So in the studies that they

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were done, what they came to the conclusion was, was that when

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people experience are, they go from self interest to collective

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interest. So they stop thinking they think less of themselves and

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more about the general populace from isolate itself to integrate

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itself, they started thinking, as opposed to them thinking of

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themselves as individuals, they started to think of themselves as

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a community. And it broke, and there was a breakdown of the us

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versus them thinking against from the same study. So odd diminishes

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the ego. And this study that they did is they had people draw

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themselves in relation to,

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you know, in relation to the environment that they're in. So

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one place where they had people do this, excuse me, was a Fisherman's

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Wharf in San Francisco. Now, this is a place where there's, it's a

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lot of people, it's the city center, it's when people are

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drawing themselves, they drew themselves much bigger in relation

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to the in relation to the to the city and the landscape of this,

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the cityscape that they're drawing around them. Yet, when they were

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taken up to the mountains, and they were asked to draw

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themselves, they drew themselves much smaller as compared to the

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landscape that they were drawing, right. So they saw themselves as

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smaller in the natural landscape, as opposed to seeing themselves as

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being much bigger in the city, the cityscape right? Now, obviously,

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they did other tests and other questions related to you know,

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what do you think about charity, and other people, and so on, so

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forth as part of this study. And what they found is that it

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decreases one's ego. What's really interesting is in the Islamic

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paradigm, the word for ego is Kibera, which comes from Cubby, it

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should be big. So when you think of yourself as big, it's actually

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it's the word in, in in Arabic for ego or arrogance, rather. And one

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of the interesting things is, is that the Prophet Muhammad peace be

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upon him, he said, the people with the most ego on the Day of

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Judgment will be like ants, and people will be stepping on them,

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meaning they falsely thought of themselves as big. And on the Day

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of Judgment, there's a physical manifestation of being the exact

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opposite of that being the smallest thing, which is ants and

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being stepped on. Anyhow. So all amplifies humility. On the small

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self, the subjects were asked to draw themselves in the

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cosmopolitan environment, we just talked about that perceptions of

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vastness, humility, and we'll, we'll hopefully publish these

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slides a little bit. So what was the central thesis, the central

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thesis was, the greater your exposure to beauty, the greater

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your ability to see truth as it really is, that doesn't mean that

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you're going to stop thinking and not use your cognitive senses, or

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you're not going to stop, you're not going to use rationality. But

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now we understand that when a person wants to reach truth, they

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need to engage with not only, you know, not only gauge on a level of

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rationality, but in addition to that they need to engage with the

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natural world and engage with beauty. Right, as an experience,

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and one of the things that, you know, perhaps the next part of

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this presentation would be, would be how does that relate to the

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revelation?

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ie the Quran from the Islamic paradigm, right? So you have

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here related to the Quran, the Quran gives what we call signs or

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ayat, and they're always pointing, a lot of times are pointing not

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all the time, but they're pointing towards the natural world. And so

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you have Angelica Neuwirth, when her in her forward on this book

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for the Quran, the aesthetics of pre modern Arabic prose. She has a

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really interesting story she says it is it is in the end of the

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pagans verdict from Surah Qamar the verdict of his Saba Sahara

01:24:21 --> 01:24:25

Albanian, his transformation of the world into a sign system

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transcending empirical reality. Very interesting, that is allowed

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to epitomize the Quran hermeneutical achievement. And it

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goes back to this idea that the Quran is constantly pulling you

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and asking us to reflect upon the natural world. And there's a

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reason for that. Because when we do that, we're getting closer and

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closer to the truth. Right? And by extension, I'm going to backtrack

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to something you know, finish it off here. By extension when a

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person goes down that route engages with the Quran engages

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with what the Quran is instructing the person to do.

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They'll find that in the end, they're able to see truth as

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truth. Truth being not only a rational, not being something not

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being only limited to rationality, but having other means by which to

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get to it in addition to rationality. So those means could

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be exposure to beauty, they could be spiritual,

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by way of having certain spiritual acts like calling out to God, and

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other things, other phenomenological areas and, you

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know, thinking deeply about things, and so on and so forth,

01:25:36 --> 01:25:38

which is outside the scope of what we're talking about in this

01:25:38 --> 01:25:43

particular presentation. But hopefully, the thesis that I was

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trying to present and that was that beauty leads to truth.

01:25:48 --> 01:25:51

Hopefully, we've substantiated that in some one way or another,

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and then allow the, the, you know, allow you, the one who's this in

01:25:55 --> 01:25:58

this presentation to kind of explore this area, a bit more on

01:25:58 --> 01:26:02

your own, by way of the Quran is what I would encourage, and just

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by spending more time in nature, so I'll go ahead and stop there.

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We'll open up for some questions. I know we've been going on for a

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little while. So

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let's see what we got.

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Okay.

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All right. Wow.

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Okay. Wow, there's a lot of comments.

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So if you have questions, go ahead and post them, we'll take them for

01:26:34 --> 01:26:37

another maybe seven to eight minutes, I think.

01:26:39 --> 01:26:41

Maybe another 10 minutes, if we need to.

01:26:46 --> 01:26:48

All right. So most of the questions have to do with my

01:26:48 --> 01:26:52

electricity going out. So like, where do you go, what happened?

01:26:54 --> 01:26:56

But if you do have questions, go in and post them now. So I can

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take a look at them. And if you don't, then that's fine, too. All

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right.

01:27:09 --> 01:27:10

Okay.

01:27:14 --> 01:27:15

Let's see.

01:27:18 --> 01:27:21

I don't really see any questions unless I'm missing something.

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We got some questions for pondering soul. So I'll let him

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handle those questions on his own.

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Yeah, nothing. So if you have anything related to topic, go

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ahead and post them if not.

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Okay, so here's a good question how to prove you must obey God. So

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I'm hoping that one of the things that we've transcended is the idea

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of having to prove everything. Right. Now, I'm not saying that we

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can't prove it. I'm just saying that this sort of mindset about

01:28:02 --> 01:28:06

having to prove every single question that we want to kind of

01:28:06 --> 01:28:11

not jump right into that scenario and say, Okay, well, I'm gonna,

01:28:11 --> 01:28:14

I've got to find a way to prove it. Right. That being said, when

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it comes to the idea of obeying God, it starts with the idea of

01:28:19 --> 01:28:22

believing in God and what is your, what is your concept of God?

01:28:23 --> 01:28:27

Because if we believe that, indeed, God is the Creator of

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everything, he is an Harlock, then it links to his worship, if it's

01:28:32 --> 01:28:36

true, that He created you, and he knows, right, he has knowledge of

01:28:36 --> 01:28:39

everything, then the things that He has commanded by, you know,

01:28:39 --> 01:28:44

just as a simple kind of, we understand this logically, that

01:28:44 --> 01:28:48

you should then submit to God and obey God because He knows more

01:28:48 --> 01:28:53

than you. Right? He has knowledge that is vast, he is maximally

01:28:53 --> 01:28:58

perfect is knowledge. Similarly, he is also a bird, he is the good,

01:28:58 --> 01:29:02

he's a romance we wants good for you. So it's not like Okay, so if

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you know about God, you would miss trust God or anything like that.

01:29:05 --> 01:29:10

And so when we start to study who Allah is, that in and of itself

01:29:10 --> 01:29:15

would lead a person to obeying God, every single person, and this

01:29:15 --> 01:29:20

is part of our fitrah, which, as we come up with, as we'll be

01:29:20 --> 01:29:25

talking about, and other series, every person, part of their fitrah

01:29:25 --> 01:29:30

is the need to worship the need to love something and submit to

01:29:30 --> 01:29:34

something that's part and parcel of our Constitution of our fitrah.

01:29:35 --> 01:29:40

Right now that worship can either be directed towards Allah, or it

01:29:40 --> 01:29:45

can be directed towards something else. So you will either love

01:29:45 --> 01:29:51

Allah or you'll love yourself, your money, your spouse, right?

01:29:51 --> 01:29:52

They're not saying you don't you know, love those things, but

01:29:52 --> 01:29:56

obviously a love of Allah comes before all of that. Okay. So

01:29:56 --> 01:29:59

worship is part and parcel of our fitrah

01:30:00 --> 01:30:04

We have a need to worship. The question is, who is worthy of

01:30:04 --> 01:30:09

worship? Is if if I'm, if I'm submitting and to myself, and I

01:30:09 --> 01:30:13

have love for myself, but I'm a limited being, I have cognitive

01:30:13 --> 01:30:20

biases, right? I have limitations. So am I really truly worthy of

01:30:20 --> 01:30:23

submitting to myself? Am I truly the one that I should love more

01:30:23 --> 01:30:27

than anyone else? Of course, we're talking here love from the

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perspective of ego pride.

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Or is that love and that submission?

01:30:34 --> 01:30:38

Due to the one that's worthy of that? So, hopefully that answered

01:30:38 --> 01:30:43

that. Okay, if you try to someone mentioned, I don't know if there's

01:30:43 --> 01:30:46

a comment. If you try to point out the beauty of this world, how the

01:30:46 --> 01:30:50

sky looks on a dark sky, even from a micro perspective, how gigantic

01:30:50 --> 01:30:53

Allah has made space. They respond, Yes, it is all

01:30:53 --> 01:30:58

scientific. Yeah, that's one of the one of the issues, right, the

01:30:58 --> 01:30:59

one of the,

01:31:00 --> 01:31:05

the, the fact that we live in the modern world, where science has

01:31:05 --> 01:31:06

been taken to be

01:31:07 --> 01:31:11

a type of holy grail in which that, you know, if it doesn't make

01:31:11 --> 01:31:14

sense scientifically, or you can call could prove something

01:31:14 --> 01:31:18

scientifically, then it becomes invalid. And the reality is, is

01:31:18 --> 01:31:23

that while science, again, can give us a lot of benefit, but

01:31:23 --> 01:31:27

there are certain questions that science can't answer. metaphysical

01:31:27 --> 01:31:31

questions, science deals with the physical, the physical world,

01:31:31 --> 01:31:36

metaphysical questions are outside of the scope of science. So we

01:31:36 --> 01:31:38

there are certain questions that science just can't deal with.

01:31:38 --> 01:31:40

Right? Science has its limitations.

01:31:41 --> 01:31:45

You know, and so, what I'll recommend is that if, you know,

01:31:45 --> 01:31:50

there's a section in the book by Hamza Hamza sources, the divine

01:31:50 --> 01:31:53

reality, which speaks about this in you know, has science disproven

01:31:53 --> 01:31:57

God, I highly recommend you take a look through it and go through it.

01:31:57 --> 01:31:57

Okay.

01:31:59 --> 01:32:02

How can we know that our fitrah is not clouded because for many

01:32:02 --> 01:32:06

people nowadays in doctrine to liberalism and belief as an axiom,

01:32:06 --> 01:32:11

so if the majority majority they've deceived easily.

01:32:13 --> 01:32:16

Okay, so I'm going to try to answer the first part of the

01:32:16 --> 01:32:21

question. This is where revelation comes in. Right. And one of the

01:32:21 --> 01:32:23

things that we understand is that there are certain things that are

01:32:23 --> 01:32:27

part of our fitrah. But when it comes to some of the details, this

01:32:27 --> 01:32:31

is where revelation enhances our fitrah. And we're able to have a

01:32:31 --> 01:32:36

clearer idea of what is correct and versus what is incorrect.

01:32:36 --> 01:32:40

Right? There's a very interesting Hadith of the Prophet SAW Selim,

01:32:40 --> 01:32:41

where he mentions that

01:32:44 --> 01:32:49

where he mentions that, that, that, that there is like a path if

01:32:49 --> 01:32:52

I'm remembering the Hadith correctly, that there's a path.

01:32:52 --> 01:32:58

And on both sides of this path are two walls. And there are doors on

01:32:58 --> 01:33:02

these walls that have curtains upon them. And there is a voice

01:33:02 --> 01:33:05

that's calling from the top, and the voice that's calling from the

01:33:05 --> 01:33:11

end. And these walls are the, the limits of Allah, the hadith of

01:33:11 --> 01:33:14

Allah, the the place that we're not supposed to transcend, you're

01:33:14 --> 01:33:16

not supposed to go, you're not supposed to transgress these

01:33:16 --> 01:33:20

limits, right, you're going to enter into the haram. And each one

01:33:20 --> 01:33:23

of these has a door. And every time a person goes towards one of

01:33:23 --> 01:33:26

these doors and tries to open the curtain, a voice says Stop, stop,

01:33:26 --> 01:33:31

keep moving forward. All right. Now, that voice the Prophet system

01:33:31 --> 01:33:36

described it. So that motivation for moving forward on that path

01:33:36 --> 01:33:38

was the process is described as its route and was the pain, the

01:33:38 --> 01:33:42

straight path, one of those voices is the voice inside of each and

01:33:42 --> 01:33:47

every single believer, and the and the objective at the end and the

01:33:47 --> 01:33:52

voice at the end, the province has been described as the Quran. And

01:33:52 --> 01:33:55

so when we go to like, for instance, I had to do Allahu Allah

01:33:55 --> 01:33:58

subhana wa T will ordered, and we analyze the receipt of that it

01:33:59 --> 01:34:03

ends off by saying New Roman Allah nor the new the light of the

01:34:03 --> 01:34:08

fitrah coupled with the light of revelation, that is the thing that

01:34:08 --> 01:34:14

we're able to move forward with, and have this type of cognitive,

01:34:14 --> 01:34:19

psycho spiritual stability. Otherwise, you won't know because

01:34:19 --> 01:34:25

of the environment that you're in what is truly natural, versus what

01:34:25 --> 01:34:28

you should or should not be doing. etc. So I hope I answered that.

01:34:29 --> 01:34:31

We'll go in and stop there. That's the I think that's the last one we

01:34:31 --> 01:34:34

have the last question we can deal with.

01:34:35 --> 01:34:38

So with that said, may Allah subhanho wa Taala bless everyone.

01:34:39 --> 01:34:43

May Allah subhanho wa Taala accept everyone's you know, coming to the

01:34:43 --> 01:34:47

session bearing with the electricity going out. It's

01:34:47 --> 01:34:51

raining quite hard here in Houston. So I appreciate your

01:34:51 --> 01:34:53

patience. May Allah subhanaw taala reward you for that. May Allah

01:34:53 --> 01:34:58

accept all of your efforts, your deeds, and I ask Allah subhanho wa

01:34:58 --> 01:34:59

Taala to forgive me for any shortcuts.

01:35:00 --> 01:35:05

means if there were any mistakes, any, anything that I said that was

01:35:05 --> 01:35:08

incorrect or anything that I've said was even offensive then that

01:35:08 --> 01:35:12

is all for myself and from Shaytaan any sort of benefit any

01:35:12 --> 01:35:16

sort of benefit that you may have received from this session it is

01:35:16 --> 01:35:22

all from Allah subhanho wa Taala Zack Mala head Subhanak Allahumma

01:35:22 --> 01:35:25

will be having a shadow a La ilaha illa Astok Furukawa two way Lake

01:35:26 --> 01:35:27

wa salam aleikum wa rahmatullah.

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