Channel: Daood Butt
Sheikh Daood Butt’s Halaqa / life session. At Isna High School.
November 4 2015
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Where's everybody today?
They get lost at the Science Center or something. You guys have a field trip yesterday.
And business competition and Okay, so those that went to the Science Center, right? Is that what it's called the Science Center? Who went through is Raise your hand if you went
nobody went? And none of you went
okay, you went to the teach about gyms.
Too bad because that's a type of science that we need to study. Right? And those those that stayed for the business thing yesterday who stayed for that? Raise your hand? Okay, those that went to Hamilton for the business thing.
They teach you about gyms over there.
Because that's a business today, two people charge a lot of money.
Which is not permissible right away. Okay. not permissible to, to seek wealth for that.
I'm gonna I'm gonna take that statement back in that last statement, we're going to take it back. I know it's recorded. So we're taking it back. And we'll touch upon that another day. Today what I wanted to cover as we mentioned last week,
come on guys, my time off the wall. If you don't need to be on the wall. If you're not injured of some sort, you don't need to be on the wall.
That doesn't include injuries to the brain.
Okay, so so Canada Today we're going to be talking about Jim, and the ability or disability that they might have with regards to getting married. So can agenne get married?
Can I didn't get married? That's a question. Who says yes, raise your hand?
Who's too busy talking? Raise your hand?
Mashallah. We're being honest. Right? So can you just get married last panel, which Allah tells us,
or asks us, is it them that you follow his shape on you're going to follow and a lot of bandwidth and dimensions was
right, his progeny. The children of shape on the family the descendants of shape on here was a panel that is specifically talking about Idris but if this is from amongst the gym, and we also see in other examples of that, we're going to cover the last panel which highlights the fact that they can reproduce right, or that they get married for as a lot of panelists hadn't mentioned in the verse that we'll cover we'll mention it right now.
Allah subhana wa tada says, nominee optimist one on one.
So almost a pan with Adam with regards to gender. Right. And I wanted to touch upon this in a few minutes, but we'll bring it forward. With regards to the agenda, those the Enter agenda, almost a panel with Anna says that for the men, right, you'll have wives, and we're not saying that the women will have husbands, right, but it's just an example that we're using. For the men you'll have wives and the women agenda that will be given to you. And the last panel with Alice's lamium is one incident one, that no one has touched them as in their pure, no one from amongst the in the in the human beings, nor from amongst the jinn. That indicates to us that the jinn can
have relations they can,
you know, reproduce, and so on and so forth. And that's something that can be done here on Earth, as well as in gender.
And sometimes Allah subhanho wa Taala shows us in examples of people who may have harmed gin or families of gin and this is why we say families is a very simple example. You know, when you're pouring hot water down the drain,
like you boiled some hot water, you made a cup of tea and it was nasty, right? And you just decide to pour it down the drain for example, because no one else in your family is going to drink it. And you take that hot boiling water let's say you boiled some broccoli and then you pour it down the drain. It's a some of the prophets of Allah Allah He was telling them to say Bismillah before we do anything, right
And that includes pouring something hot down the drain. Because the jinn they live in places that are, or they like to enjoy to be in places that are abandoned, and the place that's abandoned is a place where human beings don't reside. Now, we don't reside inside the drains of sinks. But that's a place that doesn't get used much, hopefully, right. And we're not always stuck in the kitchen. Like a lot of the mothers are stuck in the kitchen. Right? And so the families of gyms, sometimes they stay within the drain of a sink as a simple example. And it's actually been recorded. And you know, people had these issues where, you know, the mother might pour something hot down the drain, and
then the gin, who's you know, the mother or the father takes revenge against that mother or father as a family in the household, simply because they harmed or disturbed their family members that were living inside the drain.
And so she becomes possessed or the person becomes possessed by the jinn in order to you know, they do that as revenge taking, taking revenge against the person who did that, just a second shot. Okay. So that's a simple example as to how the gyms do have family members. Right, and they like to look after their family members. We'll take we'll take a few other examples shortly, inshallah tenjin marry human beings.
Can Jin married human beings islamically, we believe that yes, they actually can marry human beings. However, I'm pretty sure none of us know any of these examples. And it's highly discouraged. Allah subhanho wa Taala tells us in the Quran that he created for us a spouse so that we can get married to each other has that malenda between us and a spouse that is of a like kind. So it's not encouraged that we marry or look for a spouse from amongst a gym, even if you can't find someone, right? And you've been struggling and you say, well, there's no one good in my community to get married to know there's got to be someone, right? Don't resort to looking for a gym. And so I've had
a lot we notice how some people actually will do this, not from amongst the Muslims. But there are some people that seek out to have relationships with the jinn, it may not lead to marriage. And so Pamela, when you look at the text, traditionally, the scholars of the past but the scholars of Islam, they mentioned how it could even be possible for someone to become impregnated by a jinn
how only Allah Subhana Allah knows, I'm assuming, based on what I was reading and researching is that a person becomes possessed by a jinn, that person has relations with someone else. And then, you know, she becomes impregnated, and it wasn't the actual men, per se, that wanted to have relations with that person. But he was driven to do so by you know, the the gym that he was possessed by. Okay, so some handler, we could see how our Dean goes to the extent to talk about marriage, amongst the Djinn. So between themselves they can get married, but also within human beings. So a Jin marrying or having relationship, an intimate relationship with a human being. And
I'll give you an example at the end of how a friend of mine was raped by a surgeon.
Okay. So we'll take that shortly.
And I was there
in the room when it happened.
just to keep your attention.
So the next thing that I wanted to focus on, right,
the next thing I wanted to focus on after knowing and understanding that the jinn can reproduce can have family members and children was to look at the lifespan of jinn. How long can it didn't live for it? Does anybody know? Does anyone know how long a gym can the for how many years? 1000s of years. Okay, what's your proof?
You heard what?
You heard some agenda.
Okay? They like to lie by the way.
Good. That's a very good example that we will single out okay, that's, that's slightly an exception. Like you're asking to prove it.
Like once during the product.
And it says that I bought this cloth during the time.
Okay, so examples of Jin, who mentioned things at the time of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam, either before or even after that, of how they receive things at previous dates. So it is possible for jinn to live long amounts of time but do jinn die, just as angels do. Yes, jinn will die Allah subhanho wa Taala tells us that everything on earth will come to an end. And we focused on that when we discussed the angels how there will be a few angels that will remain at the end of time.
For example, the angel that blows the trumpet, he will remain blow the trumpet, everything we'll see is everything will end. And then the last of Hamlet, Allah will take the life of those angels, and then bring them back on the Day of Judgment, right. And so lots of data shows us how every single thing will die. exception, or we shouldn't really say an exception, but a good example to use is, as the sister pointed out, it bleeds himself. What was his lifespan, or what is his lifespan.
So until the day of judgment, so last, Hannah Montana gave it least until you're 1pm until the hour, and that's the lifespan of a beast himself. That doesn't mean that the other jinn will live eternally or will live until the day of judgment, and then they'll all die. But that does mean that at least himself was given that ability. He asked Allah subhana wa Jalla, give me this, this ability to live until the end of time isn't the end of time on earth. And then when the Day of Judgment begins, or wants to pan over to Hana, as we mentioned, the Trumpet will be blown. And he will take the lives of everyone, including the human beings, as well as agenda. So they can live for a long,
long time. And the scholars say that they could live much longer than human beings. And they can reproduce. Nelson Mandela, I wanted to conclude with one thing, which was the story of the person who I know, this was a student, who was a friend of mine still is a friend of mine. He was a student with us in Medina, not from Canada.
Not from Canada, actually, from
the Caribbean. And so Pamela, this brother, I was in his room one night, and we were studying. So during exam season, right, you can imagine we're all crammed up in this university. None of us have our family members there. So we can all chill in the middle of the night until late hours, early hours of the morning and do whatever we want to know mom and dad are there to complain, right. And so we were sitting in the room, and we were studying. And this brother said, You know what, I'm going to go to sleep for a little bit just before the exam starts.
So after fudger, he took a little bit of a nap, right? went to sleep. And our exam was starting about two, two and a half hours after
or after we got back to the room. So he's like, you know what, just let me sleep for an hour. So he lays down and he goes to sleep. Right? burnt out tired of studying all night long. And all of a sudden, the brothers like laying down in his, you know, on his bed, they're in the room, and we're sitting here, two or three others, right? And we're sitting there studying, just revising, going over our notes. And all of a sudden, his brother, he's sleeping, and his body just goes.
Some strange things start happening to him, like he just freezes. It
just becomes really, really stiff. And we're like, all
right, every single thing you can think of is starting to run through your mind. And somehow, after about two minutes, this is happening to him. And we're like trying to wake him up trying to wake him up.
And he, his eyes open after a point in time, his eyes open, he could see us he's looking at us. It's as though he wants to say something, but he can't say anything. And he's looking at us. He's looking like his eyes are moving. He's looking right at us. He wants to you can tell he wants some help. But for some reason, he can't say what's happening. And he can't speak, he can't do anything. He can't move his body was like weighted down. And you could see that his body was like weighted down. And so panelo when he you know, when that episode ended, he explained to us what actually happened. He explained to us what he felt what was happening to him. And we went to one of our teachers went to
the shift and we asked him, we explained to him and he said what was happening to you is exactly what you thought was happening to you. You were being raped in your sleep Biogen.
And then he woke up in his sleep. Right? He woke up in his suite. And his eyes could see us and he was asking for help, but he couldn't speak because his mouth was being you know, muffled and sort of handled that's the reality behind it. And I know you guys like to hear this stuff now. Right now you guys are excited. No, no, you're all scared you don't you want to skip the chapter of Jim's will start talking about angels again. But that's a reality. That's what happens there creation of Allah subhanho wa Taala. Now, this doesn't always happen. It doesn't happen to everybody. Right? It doesn't happen to everybody. But it is a reality. And that's why it's important for us to seek the
help of Allah subhanho wa Taala to make before we go to sleep, to recite science or proceed with it. Blow in our hands like the puppets on the wall and he didn't wipe it over our bodies right to sleep on our right side. Right to constantly seek the help and assistance
Allah subhanho wa Taala when we need something in life, so that when we are in a time and a difficult moment where we feel completely helpless and hopeless, Allah subhana wa tada helps us out of it. Alright, so I wanted to open up the floor for some questions because I know there's probably a couple of questions now. And tomorrow inshallah Tana will continue with that we'll talk about some of the things or the foods that the jinn like to eat some of the
actually won't spend too much time on that, but we'll talk about the places that the jinn like to live in, as well as their modes of transportation and so on and so forth.
Are the gene allowed to go to Makkah and Medina? Is that the question?
Okay, good. Very good question. Are the gyms that are non Muslim allowed to enter McCann, Medina? Yes, they can enter McCann, Medina. Yes. In fact, I was student there. And so Pamela,
we really got into this like we there was a phase where we started to study Jen a lot. We sat with our teachers a lot. We, you know, one of our students, one of our friends.
He was possessed by Fortune at one point in time. And he completely missed class for a few weeks. And we started to wonder where is he and we went to meet him. And he was a student from Canada as well.
And Pamela, we, you know, found out that he was possessed by a gym. And then we had one of our teachers go to him and tried to do it out there, because he was completely in a state where he couldn't even get out of bed, couldn't get out of bed, he wasn't showering, he was barely eating, he lost so much weight, you know, the smell on him had changed so much his eyes when you speak to him would roll back. Right? Like in the movies, I remember one time I was standing outside speaking to him. And as I'm talking to him, looking him straight into the eyes, his eyes just
right, we just roll back and come forward.
And so those are signs that someone could be possessed by a gym. And yes, from amongst those gyms that were, you know, in him as well as others, like there was a gym, there's, there's gym doctors as well. So like, most of you guys know him, right, right near his home. in Medina, where he moved outside the campus, right behind his apartment building, there was this one chair who's basically all he does is. So he helps people who are possessed by gyms, and he has like a huge audience like this, right, in kind of a setting very similar to this a place slightly smaller, you know, it's like an auditorium, and he comes in and he starts to do topia, and people who are possessed start to
react, and then somehow he brings them forward, or singled them out afterwards and starts to do an OPR with them on a one on one sort of basis or teaches them or, you know, helps them and allows them to, to help themselves. Right? So yes, that is that is something that's possible that the jinn themselves that are not Muslim can enter makin Medina.
We don't want to get into details.
We won't get into details of that incident.
Way to distinguish between purely biological phenomenon?
Yes. So that's a good question. Is there a way of differentiating if someone has maybe a disability or some sort of disorder or mental, you know, chemical imbalance in the brain of some sort? Or if someone is possessed by it? Yes, there are ways of differentiating so at the end, not at the end. But as we go through, we'll look at signs that a person might be possessed by a jinn things that you'll notice on them, their behavior, and so on and so forth. But then, Pamela, what's really interesting is that doctors, especially over here, whether they're Muslim or non Muslim, we as Muslims believe that that's a reality that someone could be possessed by a gym. Sadly, though, they
might sometimes go to a doctor and just be popping pills that they don't really need. Right? So it's important for us as Muslims to educate ourselves and educate our family members as well, we might have family members, so it's not really a laughing matter. We might have family members that are struggling with some sort of disability or some difficulty in their life, that actually has nothing to do with the medical realm.
It could be something that has to do with gyms. And so it's important for us to explore that as well. And not to say, Oh, no, there's no such thing as a gym touching my family member. It is a possibility. So there are ways of differentiating, like I said, you'll notice certain signs on people, like for example, you know, the eyes rolling back, right, touching the eyes, the smell of a person changes, even though they showered smells like something rotten, right?
sweating profusely, right
Constant urination, and so on and so forth. So these are signs that we have.
In gyms possessing dead bodies? That's a good question. I don't know.
So the question was do gyms have like these and talk about human beings?
Yes, gym can have halaqaat they do have gatherings of knowledge. There are gyms that are Muslim, that believe in that pray. And they do teach one another. Yes. Okay. Whether they talk about us I don't know, I've never attended those
and asked us to never deliver
engines murder someone?
That's a very interesting question.
I'm not sure specifically if a gin can murder someone but a gin can possess someone and lead that person to murdering another person afford to committing suicide themselves. Right. So a Jim can technically murder someone by possessing them and leading them to committing suicide.
And then the Jimmy's right?
Okay, so that ties in to the same sort of question, the sister asks, Can Jim possess dead bodies? I don't know. So I'll have to look that up and charma, the sister in the background.
Okay, so we don't know if a person is going to be punished or not. Right, we have no way of knowing if a person will be punished. And SubhanAllah. You know, even when a non Muslim passes away, we might not have been there the last moment, they may have said the Shahada, they may have turned to God, they may have trusted in God and believe that you know what my life is in the hands of God, there's really nothing that I can do in my life, I had everything and I lost everything. And so, as Muslims, we don't pray a janazah for someone who's non Muslim, right? We don't make up for their forgiveness, we leave it up to the last panel attack. So that's left with a lot. So we have no way
of deciding and knowing will a person get punished or not. However, if a person is possessed by a jinn, and they have the ability to help themselves, or they have the ability to go to someone else to seek assistance, but they don't simply out of stubbornness, or simply out of, you know what, I'm shy or something of that sort. And that's a completely different case. Whereas someone who might go and seek assistance constantly trying to get help helping themselves as well, but still not being able to cure themselves and it ends up or they lead themselves to committing suicide. Again, we leave that up to us. palitana but there's a difference in the two, right. As for the punishment, we
don't know we leave that up to Allah subhanho wa Taala. Yes,
So can the person performing Rokia become possessed by Jen?
Yes, so we mentioned that the other day last week on Thursday believe that sometimes a person might be performing Rokia and that Jin gets upset with the person and either leaves the let's just say the patient right and comes to the doctor or goes and starts bothering the family of the doctor. That's that's pretty common, that the gym goes and starts bothering either the spouse or the children of that family member. And this is why a lot of people when they get into opia, and they start doing both the other shareholders Shekhar whoever the person is, that's doing the work. They are regularly sometimes they reach a point in time where they just back off. They just you know, I'm taking a
break from this and and I know many that has completely stopped doing it and leave it up to the others that are doing it now, because it's taken an effect and a toll on their family.
So it is possible.
Yes, so the question is was opia successful on a friend of ours that had four gyms inside of them I was possessed by for gym? Yes, but it took many months of every single day, performing Rokia upon him. He was doing Rokia himself, because the son of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is not to go and seek assistance from someone else. The first thing you should do is to go is to actually do it upon yourself. And that's why we have to learn about how we perform it. What we need to do what we have to recite
And then after that, if we can't, then we go and we seek assistance from someone else, this brother who had the fortune inside of him every single day for a few months, one of our teachers would go to him and a few of us would go with our teacher, because we needed to hold him down. Like we had to pin him down. And I remember one, there was one day that Pamela was there. And there was four or five of us that were holding him down while our shaker was doing it and trying to bring you know the the gin to exit the body through his belly button. He was trying to do that, and at that point in time, and with four of us or five of us holding him down. The brother got such a jolt of energy from
the gym, and the gyms have extremely, you know, abundant amount of energy, but there's no stamina, right? So they can push for people off of them at one point in time run to the door by the time they reach the door with no more energy and they just collapse. And then the assembly will be like bring them back. So yes, it was a long process humbler the brother was cured. One by one they started to be
handled other shifts, you have your hand?
What's the best?
The best evidence from the Quran and Sunnah that they do possess, I mean the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam himself, had issues with with jinn. Right? So he himself was possessed, that is evidence in itself, right?
evidences from the Quran.
The last few sutras of the Quran, right talk about how we have to seek refuge in Allah subhanho wa Taala from the whispers of shavon. And from, you know, the evils of the creation of the last panel which so those are also supporting evidences, we could look into it and get someone.
That's all the time that we do have, because I know you're probably going to be late and say we'll donate a slate