Bilal Philips – Spirit Possession
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Dr Melina, Mejia de la la, la la,
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Indeed All praise is due to a law and as such we should praise Him, seek His help in his forgiveness and seek refuge in Him from the evil which is within ourselves, and the evil which results from it. For whomsoever Allah has guided, none can misguide. And whomsoever was allowed to go astray, none can guide Nivea witness, there's no God worthy of worship Allah. And the comments from a long way with some of them is the last messenger of
the topic for this evening focuses on spirits possession.
Before beginning let me clarify that I'm not the world's most prolific writer on Islamic topics, this is a bit of an exaggeration.
Spread possession is a topic which I have written on in the
as a topic for my thesis, exercise tradition in Islam. But at the same time, this does not make me an expert in dealing with
illnesses that people may be faced with. Because I just want to say this right at the very beginning, because
research into this topic
and an understanding of the ins and outs of it doesn't necessarily turn one into now, v exocyst. In a way where people will come flooding, for treatment, etc, etc. So please, those of you who have your illnesses, don't assume that I'm going to be able to help you.
Allah is the one who helps those who seek his help. And as I will explain in the course of my lecture, the methodology of the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu. wasallam is the methodology that we will have to follow in order to treat our illnesses, spiritual, physical, intellectual, etc.
Now, as I said, the topic is one, addressing the issue of spirit possession, and by spirits, we're speaking about the jinn. Because from an Islamic perspective, we do not believe that human spirit can affect human beings. This is a Christian tradition, Hindu tradition, other systems, because of their ignorance of the world of the jinn have attributed things which are taking place on the world of the Djinn, to actions of human spirits after people have died. In traditionally, Christian as well as Hindu and Buddhist beliefs.
Focus on the person who dies, in times of
tragedy of some tragic circumstances, murder, these type of things, where the person who dies in this way they believe that the Spirit continues to wander around the earth, and it may affect people and and this is the basis of what they perceive to be spread possession. From an Islamic perspective, when a human being die in
this world, the spirit enters into the world of the body, and that spirit has no effect on the living, there is no contract between human beings and the spirits of the dead.
So from an Sonic perspective, the only possible source from for a spirit possession, people to be affected by spiritual forces is from the agency of the gin.
There have been people historically, among Muslims who are denying that this takes place. Most of those who have denied it
are from a group of rationalist philosophers which is also referred to as the marked as the light. But for the vast majority of Muslim scholarship. The issue of possession has been recognized
and
The evidence which is used, of course, from the Islamic perspective starts with and diverts from Swan mahalo verse 275. Image last month Allah says an arena una una de la cama cama, de la cama, shavon min and max, those who devour interests rise up, like one stumbling from Satan's touch, and the leading scholars of Tafseer, like unquote, to be in Syria. In here, all of them have pointed out in this verse is evidence for the correctness of those who hold that human beings may be possessed by Satan, and the world of the jinn Devil Devil in general, we have, from a similar statement quoted by Sophia, one of the wives of the Prophet florist, she said that Satan indeed flows in the
bloodstream of Adam's descendants. This is one of the most commonly quoted checks. But there are also a number of of narration. Among them, though that was narrated by Alan Moore, in which
he said I saw a lot messenger do three things, was no one. Before or after we saw, I went with him on a trip. On the way we passed by a woman sitting at the roadside with a young boy, she called out, O Messenger of Allah, this boy is afflicted with a trial. And from him, we have also been afflicted with a trial. I did not know how many times per day he is seized with fits, the Barber Salon said to her, give him to me, she lifted him up to the Prophet for some of them. And he placed the boy between himself and the middle of the saddle, opened the boy's mouth and ruined it three times saying, in the name of amongst men, that I am the slave of the law, get our enemy of Allah. Then he
gave the boy back to her and said, meet us on your return to display and inform us how he has here. We then went on our return, we found her in the same place with three sheep. And he said to her, someone said to her, how into funfair, she replied by the one who sent you with the truth, we have not detected anything unusual in his behavior up to this time. So this is among the hobbies to use to indicate the realities of possession because
no possession actually took place, that would imply that the problems are some levels involved in some act of folly and deception. You know, what was the point of opening this boy's mouth? Who was he communicating to when he said, you know, get out enemy of the law. So, this is among the clear evidences, which we utilize those who hold the position, that the jinn may possess human beings.
Now,
when we look at the reasons as to why would the jinn Why is the world of the jinn interfere with the world of human beings? Why would it lead to professional human beings?
First and foremost, we have to understand that what we may perceive as being possession, where a person may fall in a state of fear, a person may seem to have changed their personality of writing different things, you know, which have been identified as the signs of possession, that leads do not always indicate actual possession. In fact, from my own research, which was quite extensive, you know, in the terms of field research, that I gathered material from the Sudan from Egypt, from Arabia, Bahrain, Srilanka, India, Pakistan, in our travels in a number of parts of the Muslim world gathering information from those Muslim scholars, etc, who are involved in exorcism and claims to
exercise according to the fireman pseudonym. Of course, there are those involved in all kinds of other things that didn't bother because that field has become extremely vast and already record you know, recognize the only acceptable methodology would methodology would be by way of utilizing the firearm as the basis.
At any rate,
I sampling of all of the various scholars or actresses that I came across in the Muslim world and discussing their their own experiences, clearly indicated to me that the vast majority of cases that came before them were not actual cases of exorcism. And actually even in comparing the doctor which came from Christian sources because the Christians have been actively involved in exorcism from the time of Christ.
You know, and especially amongst the Catholics, I mean, they have a very strong tradition of exorcism. And what we can find uniformly in both Muslim as well as
Christian exorcism is that the vast majority of cases are psychological, or biological. That is only a small percentage, someplace around 10 to 15% of the cases that are brought before people are involved in this, where we're actually dealing with cases of possession.
And to indicate the biological sources.
Scholars have quoted a particular Hadith, which is found in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih, Muslim, wherein, one of the companions or pardon me Rama has
pointed out a woman who, in the same apartment, had come to him and asked him to pray for her. And when the process alum inquired as to what the reason was, she explained that she would be overcome from time to time with Fitz and it was caused her clothing to to fall from her and expose herself. So she asked to prompt us on them to pray for her and have it removed from her. So he said, if you wish, be patient, and you will have paradise and if you wish, I can pray to Allah to cure you. She said, I will be patient, when she added,
I become uncovered, so pray to a law that gets uncovered. So he prayed for her. So in this study his particular narration, scholars back in the fame and others, now pointed out that this address, biological cause, if this had been a case of possession, and Popova, Salah would abuse, the common method that he used in dealing with other cases of possession, where he would instruct the possessing spirit to leave the individual. And this methodology, also we can say, is found in the Gospels and description of Jesus. So we don't accept the Gospels as being true. But there are some narrations in there, which seems to coincide with information that we have accurate information we
have from Islamic sources, and that people who were possessed were brought to Jesus according to the text of the Gospels, and he instructed the possessing demons or spirits to leave, you know, similar to the way in which property
would instruct them.
Now,
if we leave that biological or psychological side, and we go over to the actual cases of possession, if not pay him, I said, in describing the reasons, evil spirits mostly gain control over those having little religious inclination, and those whose hearts and sounds, Faith has deserted those who sold the destiny of the remembrance of the law, and the formulas for strengthening the faith. When he was spirit to meet a man who was isolated, weaponless and naked, they are easily able to attack him and overcome him. This is a general description of the state of people who tend to be overcome by the spirit world. Even semi
identified three main sources or causes among the jinn. He said the occasional possession of men by the jinn may be due to sensual desires on the part of the jinn, or even love, just as it may be among humans. A second reason was that demonic possession sometimes occur as a result of horseplay or Jeff, or plain evil on the part of the jinn, just as evil and mischief occurs among humans for similar reasons. And certainly, possession is most often I resolve the Djinn being angry with some wrongs have been done to them, but in some way human beings have accidentally harmed them. And as a response to that harm, they may attack humans and even Sameer pointed out that it's due to the
ignorant and volatile nature of the jinn that they're vengeful punishments of human beings, you know, go far beyond their just deserve.
Now, when we deal with possession, possession may be complete progression,
or it may be partial progression.
In the case of partial possession we have in the Muslim world
Well in the non Western world, a practice which is called mediumship, that is, cases where individuals become medium by which one may communicate with the world of spirits.
The individual male or female who that identifies himself or herself as a medium, would seem to be overcome and may speak in the voice of one's grandfather or one's mother dead, etc. And Miss, in general people in ignorance accept as being the dead actually communicating with them. This is a common phenomena in many parts of the world, even amongst Muslims.
However, the reality is in such cases, is not that the spirit world, meaning human spirits, are in communication with the living world. But this is a case where Jin Jin may possess this person and communicate through them, and that jinn may be the part
of the human who dies, that is, an element formed us. Each and every human being, when he is born, is a sign an angel that prompts him to goods, and is also a sign an evil jinn, that prompts him to evil. This is a struggle which each individual goes through throughout his life, there are promptings in the mind, and the conscious, and in the subconscious, coming from both the world of angels as well as the world of the jinn. And when a human being dies, the jinn that is assigned to them, the hurryin does not die at the same time because the life of the gym is longer. So that Corinne that was with the person who died, remains in this world, and may be the source of that
medium ship of that communication to human beings where we imagining or we think that the voice and the information which is being conveyed to us is being conveyed to us by one of our dead relatives who have died. In fact, it is that same Korean, the Korean will be able to give us information of things which are unique to ourselves and that person, for example, yourself and your uncle, or yourself and your aunt or whatever, you experienced certain things which nobody else knew about. And here is this medium communicating that information.
And you, you because this information is so it seems to you that this had to have been that dead relative of yours.
The reality as I said is that it is from the very end, and not a human relative, who has in fact died. even tinier talking about this phenomena has said the jinn usually communicate by either visions or voices. With those seeking information among the idol worshipers Christians, Jews heretical Muslims driven astray by the devil, the devil's will often respond while taking the form of the one we thought while dead or alive. This frequently happens to Christians who call on those who they edify, whether dead or alive, it also occurs to the radical Muslims who call upon the dead or those not present. And the demos take the form of the one called upon.
We also have possession which may be possession of objects, as we have partial position as human beings, we also have possession of objects.
Problems are seldom narrated by a boss or said when you go to sleep, put out your lamp, because Satan may guide something like this, to alarm can cause you to be burned. So the evil Jin may or may possess animals as well as objects, as in the case of a rat. In the case of objects, we have the case mentioned in the crime with regard to the people of Moses and Islam, when he wants to receive the message from a lot of Allah and sanity, had them give their melted gold
and melted down and make a calf and have that cow an as an idol for them to worship. The people of Israel did not fall in worships that I've kept
simply because it was placed before them. But as Allah mentioned in the Koran, that the calf moves, the calf that moves when the calf communicated. This is what convinced the people the followers of Moses, Israelites,
That this cop was, in fact,
alive to something which was somehow a god or whatever that they would worship. And, of course, for us, we understand that what is taking place here is that the jinn has entered into the, the,
the body, the cow, the statue, and communicate it in this way to fool people. And we've had, you know, recent occurrences of this in 1997, you know, all over the world, the Hindu, God Ganesh, you know, began to drink milk, people have been practicing their poojas their acts of worship to this goddess elephant have gone Ganesh, you know, in, in, in India, and in wherever their temples are around the world for many, many years. And there was no special phenomena taking place, they went for milk over, etc. But on one particular day, in the year 1997, they found that the milk was going into the mouth of the idol in India, as well as, wherever the temples were in London, it's happened
also in the Emirates where I was the they were, they found they were pouring milk by the most of the idol, and that milk was going in. Now, scientists tried to give explanation for it, but it was by conciliar, action and all kinds of other conditions with the reality that these explanations really didn't hold water. The point is that, at that particular instance, in different locations around the world, the jinn occupied the statues started to imbibe this milk, giving the Hindus the impression that their God was alive, real, this was a miracle for them, convincing them of the authenticity of their belief.
We can also have partial possession happening as in the case of Valhalla. lodge was a heretic, you know, from
many a number of centuries ago who hasn't been elevated by some elements as being a saint.
He was an individual who claimed that he was a law
that there was no distinction between a law and himself. And when he was taken before a tribunal, to recant his belief, he stood up and opened up his cloak and said, there is nothing inside of this cloak except the law.
His favorite statement was an aha, I am the embodiment of truth. And of course, Allah describes themselves as allies and hockey says I don't hockey thing, Allah and I are one. So when he refused to recant this belief, he was taken and executed, His head was cut off.
Now, according to the fables of the of the of those who have elevated him to the status of sainthood, they claim that when his head was cut off, as a shell, and its role is kept saying, and on and on and on, right, and for them, this was confirmation that, in fact, yes,
this individual, deranged individual was, in fact, saying, speaking the truth. But the reality is, of course, is that if in fact is to play, we can understand that it would have taken place by way of the gym, speaking out to this individual head, because surely, that person being dead was not going to communicate with any of the living.
The third way in which possession,
may or the gym may affect our world is that of what we call demonic visions. That is, where the jinn may take forms,
which appear before people. This is common amongst Christians, you have, you know, many, many cases where they have seen the Christ child, Mary appears before them these type of things.
We also have visions, which are held by individuals, for example, who believe, again, this belief in sainthood and all that type of thing, where they have believed that certain individuals who they were designated as chefs also, as in the case of chef Nazim, and his followers, they claimed that he can be in more than seven places at the same time, and that his share was able to be in more than 14 different places at the same time. So what would happen is that he would be at home in Cyprus, and then some of his followers are saying, but we saw him in Germany, he likes to go to Germany, or they say we also saw him at the same time, the same day in Mecca, performing obrah.
And also, this is evidence that this man is you know, somehow some kind of super spirit individual who's so close to a law that he deserves, you know, submission to, and so people submit themselves to him.
in ways which are definitely against the teachings of Islam.
However, this phenomena, you know has been identified by the scholars, even semi among them to be well known. In the past, this same type of thing occurred. In fact even taymiyah even mentioned that some people had come to him and told him that whilst they were in the process of doing Hajj
they one of them had hurt himself, and he called out on it, we came here for his help. He called out for him. Oh isn't Jamia helped me at the time. And he said when he called out, he saw him Jimmy appeared before him.
And when he related this back to Tamia, Tamia informed him that this was not him. This was a Jin Jin, you know, appearing confirming his shift, because for him to call out to pay me for help, image me as you know, 1000s of miles away he is there in Mecca calling us in for help us to ship
to call on anyone other than a law is sure. So, most people are involved in various acts of shots, you will find among them visions, common to confirm their their state of disbelief,
which I came across, in Sri Lanka, back in 1992, in which a young boy he was some two and a half years old. He was born in a Muslim family, his name was
Muhammad ihsahn, warrior Muslim family. And all of a sudden he had this sort of illness. He was an ospital. Short, briefly, he came out he hadn't spoken. After this illness, he began to speak. And he began to speak in the language which was the language of the Hindus.
He began to speak in the language, the Tamil language, right versus family, we're speaking, synchronous. And
he started to ask to go to the temple. And they took him to this temple sandwich into the temple and decided to do the rites of worship before the idols and decided to sing the hymns of the the Hindus the chance in their worship a sutra, it was something really, you know, quite amazing. And this was documented by doctors, etc. They documented This is very real, it was in the newspapers, front page news. And, you know, it was quite shocking. In fact, it reached a stage where people are making pilgrimage from India from southern India, Tamil Nadu, making pilgrimage there to Sarah Lanka to come to this more, they're bringing gifts and they were asking him, you know, their future and even
Muslims, unfortunately, got caught up in this many Muslims who are coming to this individual and asked him to tell them their future and all this kind of things, you know. And fortunately, one of the brothers, their brother by the name of jazzy artists, he had read because I've been to Sri Lanka before and given lectures here. And he had read a book, which I've written, called the fundamentals of sushi. And in it, I explained about this phenomenon, the phenomenon of what appeared to be reincarnation, right? Because this boy, he was claiming that he was someone else, he gave a name, gave a place where he died, when they went there, they found that yes, there was a boy by this name,
who had been killed in an accident, you know, and he was a Hindu boy. And here he was now claiming that this was himself and that his parents were so on, so on, so on. And so the names of the parents etc. So it appears to be a case of reincarnation, it's a belief shared by both the Hindus and the Buddhists. And then this case became so popular in Sri Lanka, that even the president Premadasa had, you know, made statements about this, you know, about this is showing that, you know, we're all from the same, you know, origin whether you're Muslim or whether you're Hindu or Buddhist, you know, we're all reincarnated, we could have been Hindus in a previous lives or whatever, you know. So, it
was for him to use it as a means of what he felt to be uniting the people and even placed guards around the whole of the Somali, you know, to make sure nobody disturbed this process. At any case, as I mentioned, just the the artist had read my book of the fundamentals of sahid, in which I described this case happening in India before cases of reincarnation, and explain how it was possible for the jinn to implant ideas in the minds of children. problems. As Alan said, dreams are of three types.
There are dreams which are from Allah, good dreams, to dreams, dreams, which are from the ramblings of ourselves, you know, we read something we see something and all of a sudden we see it back in our dreams, and then dreams which are from shavon shavon may come into ideas and be
minds, you know, sometimes you wonder, a thought comes to your head and you wonder where did that come from? And I wasn't thinking that kind of thought and then here you are thinking, you know, this is why vamos SLM told us that we're not held to account for our thoughts, because he will thoughts and they come into our heads, you know, without our intention, and if you were going to be held to account for every thought that came in our mind, we would be in very serious trouble. So, a lot of being most merciful, does not hold us to account for the thoughts that we have. And what happens instead is that we are only held to account when we speak on the thought and we act on it.
So, what happens then is that
a gin may put, like the same party in may put the thought of that, in in the mind of the child,
images, visions, or concepts where the child expresses these things, thinking, it is his or her own, not aware that it came from another source, many caves to see the artist when he read this in my book, he took a local Maulana there who had the title they call them the Jin mo Louie, you know, meaning that he was personally dealing with other people who have possession etc, he took him to visit this
child and the family and when he had a bit of difficulty getting there, but eventually he was able to get in to see the child and the initial reaction of the child when they thought when he saw the scholar was to run the scream, eventually, they were able to get the child hold the child down, he recited for an order the child and the child
change, stop speaking come in reverted back to himself and the whole state that he was in napkin.
So, the issues of possession whether partial or complete,
these are realities, which we experienced in our world today, much of it serves to reinforce
shift, which is common in common practice in various parts of the Muslim world as well as in the non Muslim world, Muslim non Muslim world, but unfortunately, today among Muslims, we find practice in the shirt all over. And as such, you will find that objects places things become possessed regions appearing before people, so that the various shines like places like edgemere, where people are making pilgrimage in the 1000s you know, to
a grave a Muslim and performing all sorts of kinds of acts of worship at places like this, you know, which is in fact, out and out shoot, they will go there and have all kinds of experiences, you know, people will go there within this as a set time they find themselves coming back feeling better and you know, miraculous cures etc.
Now, we also find,
as an aspect of possession and interference of the jinn magic, even magic itself, you know, is a result of the agency of the jinn. people involved in magic are often men are most involved in some act of sacrilege, but the way in which magic actually affects individuals is through the intervention of the jinn scholars of the past. You know, I've identified this similarly, the evil eye, the evil eye, which is real, and many people who have come from
Western backgrounds been exposed to
scientific teachings, etc. The idea of the eye, the evil eye is something that people tend to want to deny, but proper
alignment, the dine behind the evil eye is a reality and he gave us ways of treating it. But
this issue of the eye you know, as you know, famous said, Every possessor of the evil eye is jealous versus jealousy which is involved in it, but not every jealous person possesses the evil eye. It doesn't mean just because a person is jealous, automatically evil eyes in effect and the people are being affected, but it is in specific cases and these specific cases are a result of intervention by the jinn.
Now in terms of exorcism, how do we treat those who are possessed
first and foremost, me say that from an Islamic perspective, there is no such thing as an exorcist. You know, no such thing as as a profession where a person becomes a professional
stasis, we have this in the Christian tradition, they have a position in the church known as The Exorcist. A person gets special training for it. And that's his job. In the case of Islamic tradition, it's people who are not taking on this specific roles. As you know, I am an exorcism, that's my job, people, you know, that's my nine to five, you know, I'm exocyst know, what would happen is that people would get ill, you know, through effects of the gym, etc. And they would go to a local scholar, or they would go to, you know, their friends or whatever, and whoever, you know, felt a desire to try to help they would seek to help them by recitations, Quranic recitation, etc.
And in this way, they were treated.
The one point I'd like to mention here is that
there's a book called medicine of the prophet
in which
it is described as the prophet SAW some prescribed ambulance, actually, the term used is Rukia.
Or,
and the translator of his book, Julio, I think his name is, he translates This is anila. So it appears that abraca Sutherland is prescribing ambulance for people, but this is a mistranslation the law or Rukia are incantations recitation things, which are said over a person who may be possessed from from an Islamic perspective, these reputations should be using Quranic verses, or it should be in statements which are intelligible you have people who make amulets, which are commonly known in the indo Pakistani
part of the world, as always, where people make these little writings and things and, and they wrap it up and put it into little case and you work on your neck, on your arm, etc, cetera, when you take these things apart, and you look and see what is written on them, you will find it has a bunch of lines and letters and numbers and these kind of things. And this is all considered in the category of ships. This is not acceptable.
These numbers which people have assigned to Quranic verses, saying this is 786 This is a common
number which people use they will write it 786, etc. And they believe this means this Miller of mine Rahim, please know that it does not mean this melodic minor 786 does not mean that at all.
What they have done is they've given values to Arabic letters, and adding up these letters, they are getting 786. However, the same 786 could be used to create a sentence in which you're saying there is no boss, and Mohammed was a magician, you could write that out in Arabic and have it add up to 786 also. So please know that 786 has no special value, it does not mean Bismillah. And this use of numbers and letters to signify Quranic verses is nonsense that has no basis in assignment teachings at all.
In terms of the treatment, and my time is running out. And actually there's a lot of material here. But anyway, I've just tried to shorten it down. In terms of methodology, what was the prophetic methodology, the prophetic methodology began with undoing charms for doubling the case when magic a magic spell was kept on him, he was informed by angels that the person who did the job was a particular individual, and he had made the chart and put it in the bottom of a particular well, so he says, He will be calling this one get this charm and take it apart, it was he was taking the parts he recited the polls over it. So a part of the the prophetic method methodology is if one
finds that charm in one's home and there are people unfortunately in the Muslim world, who are very much involved in magic, you know, people either because they want to get married and I'm there's a book on the market produced, printed in Pakistan and India. It is also called prophetic medicine. And it has you know, all kinds of things that you can write down if you want somebody to fall in love with you, if you want to have children if you want this to happen or that to happen you you do this thing you put it in water you drink it or you you know, tie it tight on the person's door or in all kinds of foolishness burners and, and all kinds of advice on what to do to try to creating these
trials to get in people's homes and this type of thing, right? So if you find yourself in some states of illness or whatever you find yourself uneasy and you find in your home some time. What do you do with
Take up this time destroy it, you know, while reciting the poem.
The second method, which most often abused was that of addressing the, the spirit, which possessed the person, you know, as I posted before, you know, he, he would call out the spirits know saying, I am a stable law, you know, get out or enemy of the law. So, the issue of addressing that spirit, instructing it to leave is a part of the methodology of the problem and furthermore, the process also involves curses on the possessing gin or interfering gin. You know, he would hear a solemn would say out to dinner he may or may not
know he would use these phrases, which is May Allah curse you our secret agenda la familia la Kersey. So, this is part of the, the methodology for trying to expel the possessing spirits, one may call it a loss curse on that possession spirit. The third step is not the recitation
recitation of Surah Fatiha was done by the Sahaba. For example, even smoke has mentioned that,
on his
journey, he came across a man who was possessed and inside of an iron chain. And the family of the man had come to him and asked him if he had anything from Mohammed sauce on them to help
treat such illnesses. So, that companion recited to Osaka over him every morning and every evening for three days. And whenever you finish the reputation it would gather and saliva and spit off to the side. And the man who eventually caught well. So this when he came back and informed from from Salaam Salaam confirmed his use of Fatiha in this way. Now, this is a legitimate use of Fatiha outside of our prayer. There is another way what people tend to do is we're going to have a gathering, before we start the gathering, or at the end of each gathering, people will say Haha, and they're going to emphasize that this is not from the tsunami. You know, we don't want to take
sauropod and start to use this for anything we want to use this for. We have it in the plan, we read it when we read the plan, we read it in our Salah, that's it, we use it for anything else, we must have a foreign key from Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam is the this issue of, of utilizing the deen it has to be even for the cases where people are possessed, etc. It has to be with confer confirmation from bathrooms. On some level, this whole issue of possession is not like an issue of physical illnesses, where when you're sick, you come to a doctor and the doctor will experiment on you.
He thinks he has an idea of what your illnesses so you prescribe the medicine.
If this medicine doesn't work, or the dosage is not high enough, he'll increase the dosage or prescribe another medicine and he keeps prescribing until one finally work. Right? Once that one works, then he will, you know, make a note of it. And this becomes a part of medical tradition that whenever a person comes with this particular illness, to use that medicine for that illness, if you come to a doctor and the doctor will experiment on you,
he thinks he has an idea of what your illnesses so he prescribes the medicine.
If this medicine doesn't work, or he or the dosage is not high enough, he'll increase the dosage or prescribe another medicine and he keeps prescribing until one finally works. Right. Once that one works, then he will, you know, make a note of it. And this becomes a part of medical tradition that whenever a person comes with this particular illness, to use that medicine for that illness. Now treating those who are possessed is not in the same way. We cannot go there, start experimenting and doing what you know, whatever works, you know, so you'll find when you go into different parts of the Muslim world, people in dealing with possessed people, you'll find them doing all kinds of
things. You know, they're firing strings around people's fingers and around the tools.
They will tie you know, knots in their hair. They will do all kinds of things that tell you Okay, we're going to chase the gin up your body and or from your foot all the way up to here and then it gets into here. We cut off the here we put it in the bottom we set it on fire. We burned the ginger. You know, I mean, these kinds of stories. You guys have fables, you know, people seem to get up and they get up in the field. They're Well, you know, I'm okay. Now, you know, this thing works great. But what is happening here is that, you know, in medicine, whenever they're giving a drug trial, a new trial for drugs, they always do it with a control group. They take 10 people, and they will give
them this medicine. Then there'll be 10 people who they will sell they're giving this medicine but they're giving them sugar pills, right they call a placebo. Right? Why? Because what is an
find is that out of those 10 people who are given his medicine, which was in fact, sugar pills, maybe 30% of them will get well,
they will get well. So if the actual medicine is only getting 40% Well, and sugar pills are getting 30% Well, if that is medicine is no good, you know, if the medicine is working like 90%, and then you have a 30% for the placebo yourself, you've got a good medicine here, what is what this is telling you is that if a person has confidence in their doctor,
that confidence that trust can help to cure that person.
Similarly, when the, you know, this Exorcist, he tells you, okay, the jinn will chase it up, you're here, we've taken it out, because you're here, we're gonna burn him, you know, this person is actually believing this thing. And in that case, where they're not actually possessed, you know, whether it was what they had was a psychological problem. Or it may have been partially biological, then they cure themselves.
So, what we're dealing with here, when we deal with the whole issue of exorcism is that we have a methodology of the problem with a fella This is genius, the dean is not subject to experimentation. So, we cannot experiment around and say whatever works now becomes, you know, this is valid, I can use this
we have among the prescribed things, so, Pudsey the scholars of the past used it and found that it was very effective, you know, based on the teachings or problems are solemn, in breaking spells, which are on people, among them the best Mullah Bismillah, is in this narrow manner.
Solomon said that you should pray to your hand, wherever you feel safe in your body, if you feel in your body, you may not be a magical thing, because a possessing agendas of sparsely possessed a person may cause pain, or they may feel something in their body. So when a person has this, they place their hand on the body, they did this last three times. And they say I would have been lucky to have was rocky Minh Sharma as you will have. And this means I seek refuge in a law and it's far from the evil that I find and the evil that I fear.
It is, you say this Military Times, I mean, actually, the whole bunch of them are gonna be saying no. And then you say, out below he
he mentioned remain agile, agile.
We also have the tower This is just in general, he can represent a law. You know, as the law tells us in the crime, we're in or in my in the run the communist society, in the hood.
And the shape of Satan such as you seek refuge in a law firm, very easy here and north. So we have Ayesha Raja Maha saying that books are sold and whenever any member of his household
fell ill we had pains the sexual facilities to blow over them. And besides our the time
we also have the
Misaki Leah than the companions of the sons, the problems are Solomon said, whenever the man is recited, the evil jinn will see. And when it's finished, they will come back and interfere with an individual in his prayer. We also have a variety of prophetic prayers. But you know, unfortunately, time is running out further and further, I can just say that
you can find in the, in the bookstore, this book, which I wrote called the existence, traditional Islam, all of the prayers are listed there. Besides that, we also have medicines which focus on prescribing prescribing God's law, saying that the personal 16 dates in the morning, neither magic nor poison, when the first will hurt them, and also prescribe what are known as truffles in English, and it's called become an Arabic, that is water use of the water is a cure from the, the the light, he also prescribed, that a person if a person had, you know, caused an evil eye,
hurt to another person, he instructed the person who had caused this to take a bath in the end, they will take the water from that box, all sorts of performance pollution and we take the water from the pollution with water leftover from the pollution and the person who was affected by the life would live with it.
There's also the step which is very dangerous step which have to be very careful that the person who may be possessed may also be hit. But the hitting you know has to be in a very controlled fashion, you know, cannot reach the kind of extremes of supplies for example, in England, you know, about four years ago, were superior
in Manchester beats a young girl 17 year old girl to death, you know, and they're in jail for currently now for killing her in the course of exorcism. The when Foxtrot Salaam hit somebody as you may have hit a child or hit the young person, cancer them witness, you know, you'd hit them on their back more like a pat on the back because you got something stuck in your throat, you get a pat on the back, you know, not the practice, you know, taking sticks and clubs and you know, meeting that person into a state of
into a state of death, or near death.
In closing, I just like to say that we do have an issue that we have to address the issue that Christians and Buddhists also exercise. People come to them for their exercise and they go away Well, how do we explain this?
is they're involved in chicken cetera? How can we explain this process? Well, the reality is that when a Christian or a Buddhist
calls on Jesus or Buddha or you know make statements of
the person who is possessed
the region and that person will leave not because it is forced out, but is relieved in confirmation of shifts to the follower. Because they see this person being cured it appeared that they are cured by calling on Jesus or the scriptures of the Buddhists, but the fact of the matter is his agenda is leaving just confirming shear in the minds of the people who are observing.
whereas in the case of a Muslim, reciting the prophetic draws over the person the gym is leaving, leaving because it is given out, you will also find Muslims who may call on Muhammad wa sallam are calling from saints and the person appears to be cured again that curing is like that and the Christians and the Buddhists etc. It is not a true curing. So, in closing, I will just now say that
for Muslims, we have a variety of
Quranic verses, etc. and practices which SLM has given us in order to protect ourselves, whether there are two hours to be said in the morning in the evening, do as we said, before we go to bed do as we say, before going to the bathroom. There is a variety of different laws that are available in books like the
hustle, Hasina, think,
Muslims, Muslim, Muslim, which is a fortification of the Muslim is a nice collection of authentic was and is mentioned in there, most of the devices may be said, you know, to protect one from the effects of the jinn throughout one day, I mean, even to the point of a person and gave us was before husbands and wives come together this particular drive, we say, to keep safe on the evil Jin away from the offspring. So it is for us to learn these prophetic prescriptions. There is so much in the prophetic descriptions that if we spent our time learning it, we wouldn't have time to get involved in the MLS and the other practices of schilke etc, which are being offered in many parts of the
Muslim world today as a mean of means of dealing with exorcisms, we should not go to those who are involved in magic to deal with magic. Those who are involved in magic are involved in sin are involved in Cooper. Because Fantasyland said this whoever enters into magic has entered into copper. So the only way is to use the method responsible for filling a void. And we also protect ourselves by utilizing the various formula which he gave us. And at the same time, when we live when we recite these formulas, we don't recite them in a ritualistic way, but reflecting on the meanings and when we look into the meanings, we will see the meanings all involve putting our trust in a law because
ultimately, our law is the one who hears
and we have to put our trust in Allah. It is not the first one who recites over us or what is recited ultimately, it is trust in our law, and the help of the law, we overcome these things. So even a person who may
do all their drawers, you know, recite all the things that they should recite, do everything that they should do in a day. It doesn't mean that they can never be affected. They can still be affected because Monica Salama who was the best of us, was affected by magic.
So it can happen but the point is, what do we do? Do we fall apart? Do we then turn to sources of shortcuts so secure ourselves? No. This is a
trial and the Fest in our lives, we have to put our trust in the law, and he is the best to protect and the best to heal.
You have bodyguards didn't you come across the head east, if people gathered to harm you, they will not harm me except what Allah has designed destined for you. And if people gathered to
help you, they will not be able to help you except what Allah has destined for you. Why don't you put your trust in Allah subhanho wa Taala.
I'd like to thank, you know, whoever sent that, you know, as
well intentioned advice. I can only say that I didn't ask for anybody guys, you know, brothers who felt that they wanted to do security for the speakers or for the gathering? That was their choice? I did not.
Question questions.
Actually, I will just try to deal with the questions that relate to the topic or the bill Phillips of speech, if you don't mind. And then if we have time, then we'll use some others.
Questions, people who talk or laugh in their sleep, is that inspired by James and two? Does gin possession or does gin possessed person have epileptic sicknesses
laughing or talking in in a person's sleep
is not a sign of gin possession.
And
epileptic fit to the person may suffer from maybe either biological,
which have to do with injuries to the head or a variety of other injuries or imbalances in the body chemistry can lead to it. Or it may be from the source of the Djinn. So whenever we deal with any symptoms amongst people, and when and some of the questions are going to come to look at some of them asking about the symptoms, how do we know when somebody is possessed? And what are the signs that indicate possession? Actually,
we are
the book which I have written has gone into details in identifying from different sources, those who are involved in the field, you know, the common factors that they have identified. But the reality is that
probably the greatest
similar symptoms would be changes in personality, where a person
exhibits behavior, which is vastly different from their norm. And they will tend to shy away from a religious things, whether it has to do with prayer or fasting, anything connected with the religion, the type of things. And
in extreme cases, you may find the person's actual voice changing, where I personally speak with a voice, which is not the normal voice that they normally speak with. But again, as I said, some of this may have biological origins, that when we find somebody who is exhibiting strange behavior, etc, our first
response should not be this person must be present. You know, because you find, unfortunately, many parents as soon as, you know, children, children, who are, for example, in this society,
or going to the public schools, here, for expos, with all through all of these, you know, abnormalities in behavior, etc, which go on in public schools. And then our children come home and they start to exhibit some of these things. We assume because this is not something we're used to in the home country, right back home back in Pakistan or Egypt or wherever we're not abused to children behaving in this way, that we automatically assume that it must be agenda has gotten them, you know, I mean, we have to be very realistic to look at the situation, you know, try to understand the situations that you might find themselves in, and we have to take responsibility. You know, we have
to take responsibility for what is happening to our children here in the society is a product of this society itself. Now what happened in Colorado would happen
in Alberta, that would happen also in England and Ireland, you know, these kinds of
aberrations and behavior etc. This is a product of the system, our system which does not provide moral guidance for views. So when our children stray, we don't need to blame it on the jinn, we need to blame it on ourselves, for not providing them with the proper guidance that we should do either Islamic schools and education, Islamic environments, we have to take responsibility and not trying to blame it on the gym.
Person Assalamualaikum. My question is, I have a brother who started working at the age of 18.
I have a brother who started working at the age of 18, he was generous. When family and friends came to him. He fell apart when he started drinking and lost his job. He only worked for seven years, he does not work now. Neither drinking
it it says magic or evil I happen to him. That's why he's unable to work. But when you sit with him, he is very social fellow, and you cannot find anything wrong with him. He is now 48 years old, which means he hasn't worked for many years if he was 18 at the time 25. Since 25 to 48 he hasn't been working, how do I help him? I am very concerned with his welfare. He does not praise Oh.
Well,
as you said, the person who's asking the question has said that
this individual while working began to drink. Obviously, there is something that led that individual to drink. But what she tried to find out is why that individual begins to drink, why that individual doesn't pray. And this is the foundation
then the point is, is the law tells us in the Quran, that you know, if we turn away from a larger man, remember
from an hour and decrease Fenella who mentioned that whoever turns away from my remembrance will have a wretched life. This individuals life is wretched because he's turned away from Allah. So what we need to try to do is rather than try to exercise them, no, we need to try to get him back to Islam. Because if he is if he is void of prayer and gladness, I pray that you know, I'm talking about cell and solace, that the distinction between the believer and the disbelievers, Salah, whoever abandoned this has become a disbeliever. Then what we have in our hands is a person who is virtually a disbeliever, we have to try to bring them back to Islam after being back to Islam and we
try to build them up and inshallah with a proper Islamic Foundation, then you will be able to get his life back in order with the help of olanzapine asylum.
Western legions reproduced very easily revelation, basically what are the qualities? I have several questions asking that and also several questions asking this is there such a phenomenon as good genes that help people?
Okay, in terms of the characteristics of the Djinn, of course, we don't know
what they look like. They are not visible to us. If they enter into our dimension, they enter in forms that we know either is an animal form, but some apparitions like human form for Apple, perhaps also the UFOs UFOs that some people keep talking about, you know, my view is that there what is real of them, is probably the jinn. Because we can be assured and have no doubt that there are no intelligent beings in some other part of the galaxy.
You know, some other part of the universe there are no intelligent beings there. If there may be life, in the form of vegetable life, or animal life, which is not
intelligence, having a choice between good and evil, because karma was the last prophet of Allah.
If there were beings, somewhere else across the universe that we ultimately were going to come in contact with, we would have been informed about them.
told us about the jinn. Allah revealed a chapter in the Quran about the jinn and they're invisible to us. So if revelation is going to clarify about the jinn, surely it will also clarify about other intelligent beings over the past universe so we can just cancel that. But for those who believe that evolution is what brought us here, there is no God for that.
It is a part of their
psychological need to find other beings to justify our existence, that if this happened by chance, by evolutionary processes, then this should also happen, you know, in some other sides and some of the galaxies around should also happen is logical, if it happened here, it should happen elsewhere. So not find it elsewhere, is to be put in a situation where obviously, this is like a one time thing, meaning it wasn't by chance, it meaning there was purpose behind it, there has to the gods, they don't want to deal with us. So the whole of their scientific programs in space, astronomy, astronomy, etc, all of it is focused on trying to find life
in the universe,
to justify their belief that we are here by accident, probably the greatest expression of shift in our time.
How can one be held if he is possessed, but the possessed person is involved in VEDA? Well, we have to start by tearing up the Buddha. Because this
and any other form of deviation becomes an opening and an invitation to possession to corruption from the world of the gym. So it needs to clear up in order for persons involved in without and we first try to tear up those things, either from his or her whole or his the area in which they live or whatever, we cleared our area purify the area, then we tried to deal with the individual or we do it simultaneously.
Questions, isn't sure for someone to seek help through an exhaustive I mean, one who does not involve in shear?
No, it would not be considered shirk, as I gave examples of complains of problems, I tell them, who cheated those who are possessed, you know, as long as the retreatments, the europea or ruca, are involving Quranic verses, or statements, which are themselves acceptable Islamic code that is perfectly legitimate. But as I said, it's not to go seek an exorcist to seek some money, who would exercise that first law yourself? You know, because I said, we really don't have expertise in Islam. We have people, you know, individuals who have accepted, you know, to help others, not as a profession, you know, nine to five, but, you know, if people come to them, they will require them
whether they're hot supply, or they know a lot of crime, the reputation is good, there are strong in mind, whatever, you know, whoever is approached like that, it is their duty islamically to try to help those who are in need.
Please explain the use of dams and water in exorcisms. And the use of the water in exorcism by to our water is meant to draw the water over which chronic HIA is read and blown upon. What we actually have no evidence for the use of do our water, this color do our water. We have no evidence for it for most of them didn't do it. compiling didn't do it. It has become a common practice amongst people involved in exorcism in our time, was really as I said, it has no foundation in the actual methodology of the Prophet Moses element, his companions and the use of them from an exorcism. Again, we also have no example of the companions
using this or the bathrooms or Salaam, but we know those elements said that Zamzam is forever whatever it is, drunk. Right. So if a person were to drink Zamzam, you know, asking a lot to help them you know, overcome whatever hurts overcome them. It's legitimate. But to say that it is a standard article in the arsenal of the exorcist know
Would you say that the main purpose of the gyms is to use the people's own superstitious belief to lead them into the fire?
No, I wouldn't say that the main purpose of the gym, the gym Jin, were created like human beings with an ability to choose to obey Allah or disobey Allah. Their main purpose is to worship Allah. That is the main purpose of the jinn. No, as the law says, Omaha, Genoa INSA in Abu Dhabi, he didn't create the Jin Jin first nor human beings.
Except for
worshiping Allah, that is the main purpose of the jinn just as it is the main purpose of human beings, the evil among the jinn, like the evil amongst human beings
will try to draw others into their evil enough a person is involved in some kind of corruption or whatever, they do not feel comfortable until everybody around them is sharing in that corruption
region are no different in that sense. So they try to draw people into corruption, they are themselves involved in church corruption, and they try to draw people into similar practices.
I have several questions here on how to recognize if a person really has some jinn on him, do you have to put the person through some medical tests first, or are there some sure characteristics that will mark off a person that's being possessed, I did address this earlier in the personality changes, voice changes, habits,
radical changes in habits can be among the signs, but it is not an automatic sign, really, all of these signs are also exhibited by people who have medical problems. So, whenever one finds a person in a state, the first thing that Bronson tries to do is to deal with it on a medical level, having failed to deal with it medical, in other words, you identify that it is something beyond medicine, then you look and focus in on Quranic recitation, etc. However, anybody who is sick, whether it is biological, or you may feel it is spiritual, to read over a person is natural, you know, as we have so many drugs and process Allah gave us as well as you know, examples of the companion reading over
people who are stung by scorpions, you know, variety of things. So the idea of, of calling on a lot of help in dealing with our illnesses, this is something that we can just do automatically, but as I said, in terms of focusing in the sense that we now have a sense that this is probably from a spiritual
source, you know, from the jinn.
And we put all our efforts in terms of taking that person to somebody who have, you know, grind recited regularly and really tackling it on that basis. Who should do so after having checked out the medical side?
What must you do if you get a bad dream that you believe is from the Shaitan? And the related question, what should one work day if one feels the presence of a gym, or if one gets a really bad smell just out of the blue
element and instructed us that if a person has a bad dream,
at night, they can either get up, get up and make Soraka
they can turn in the bed, if they're sleeping on the left side turn to the right side. They can
spit without really spitting but glowing and seeking refuge in a law.
These are among the things one can do in a when one experiences a bad dream.
The other part of it, if you feel that there's the chin, if you feel the presence of the jinn, it is possible for you to make the event this is amongst the things that I mentioned some of the Sahaba did, you know when they they were presences they felt the jinn being present or whatever they would make the event say the Alon out, because most of them said that the jinn will get away. Also, you know, there's a variety of different
verses from the Quran and the guides Of course, the the last two verses of
Surah Al Baqarah. You know, these may be recited as a means to clear the air, you know, when one finds oneself in an environment seems to be, you know, spiritually evil or whatever.
And I have another personal question which Alas, brother belongs to him, but in general like to advise all Muslims, that we must think good of people, you see something that you don't understand, don't assume that you know, something is wrong here. Assume that, you know, there's something that you don't understand. And check it out with the brother personally. Somebody asked to one of our popular speakers one time, how can we shave you, you know, you pardon your face like that? You know, this is not right. And then the brother explained that the hair doesn't grow on that part of his face. You see, when when the fire is busy, just assume he's doing wrong, whereas they should have
assumed some excuse for the brother. So the question again is about security issues and then reference to a recent program that was held at Madison's
Square Garden. Is there anything you'd like to say about that?
We just move on to the to the gym question.
Okay, can human beings came gyms and send them to harm other human beings? I have many questions on this topic. Can we communicate with gyms or negotiate with a gym at some time about the time of taking the gym out of the process? Once you taking the gym out at that time? Can you make some negotiation with the chin? please address these two questions.
Okay, the one about Madison Square Garden, but she just mentioned that
there was a lecture given there back I think in the end of January, and
I didn't attend, I wasn't able to attend. And I gave my presentation over the microphone, or over the telephone in Orlando was broadcast there.
Nothing I'd like to mention promises that in the course of the lecture, I did mention something which I think we should be aware of. And that is, that the practice of intermediation that is calling on others besides the law, this practice,
which have been widespread amongst Muslims, in the in recent times, with the revival of Islam in the various parts of the Muslim world, to the various movements and organizations, etc. Now, people have been moving away from this realizing and understanding that this is in fact,
it is not acceptable islamically to call on anyone other than the law. And I just mentioned in the course of the lecture, that there is an individual, and probably a number of other people with this individual who is currently, you know, trying to revive his calling back on other calling back and others meaning specifically calling on top of Amazon selling in prayer. And that individual, his name is no harm in Keller. He's written a book called the reliance of the traveler, right? It's translated the work of one of the early shopping scholars. But in the appendix of that book, he brings about 10 pages are 10 page arguments for justification for praying to Prophet Monica Salaam,
so direct prayer to him, you know, and I just mentioned this in the course of that lecture, it created a bit of
a reaction there in in New York, because perhaps a number of people who are in the audience, you know, were amongst his followers are those who are enamored by some of these ideas, but I felt this was my duty, you know, to clarify, when I was addressing different issues that the oma faces today, I clarify that this is one of the modern attempts to revive an evil amongst the oma, you know, because our basic
foundation is our law alone is our Lord, and He alone deserves our worship. And to call on anyone in prayer is to worship them. It is an act of worship problems SLM says, I do our school, a vida,
de la, when you call make supplication. That is an act of worship, to whoever that supplication is directed. It becomes an act of worship to that person. So you cannot say I'm calling them and asking them to take my birth to a law that really are more specific, worshiping Allah, I'm just asking them to convey know, if you're calling Padma Salaam, you have worshipped him, because only Allah can answer our prayers as he told us, or the only
call me and I will answer you.
Lower the questions about the gyms for example. Oh, okay. Now our question about the good gyms.
We know that the gyms are divided into believers and disbelievers just as amongst ourselves, now what about the believing jinn, we know that the evil Jenner coming in missing in our lives and you know, they are the source of a lot of the things that have to do with the ghosts and all these kind of things that you know, amongst the non believers. Now, what about the good? Can we have a good gym that, you know helps us out in a way here? Usually when people start talking about gym stories, they always start talking about so and so when a good gym you know, who would come and clean their house and do these nice things for them and all this kind of thing. Good. Can we have such things? No,
this is nonsense. This is nonsense. Right? The gym are prohibited from interfering in our worlds. They are prohibited. If there were going to be good gyms, helping us
Robert marsaskala would have had an army of them, the Sahaba would have had armies of them. And we don't have any record of any of the Sahaba having good genes, you know, coming around doing things for them and helping them. Okay. So he's believed that anybody who claims the as this good gene helping him out, you know, he's either deluded, because again, the gin in charging a person, you know, just like any say Sonic
group or individual, they never come with their reality, they never show you who they are right from the beginning, right, they will come to you like a nice person, right? And and give you offer you something which seems to be good. And then when they have chopped you, then their real selves will show.
Okay, this is the standard way in which cults operate, you know, individual deviant individuals, evil individuals who tend to operate in the same way. So it's not surprising that perhaps amongst the jinn, there may be some that will come to people give them the impression that they're helping them. And then after they've drawn them into their circle, then it will get from them the actual shirt or whatever, or or help use them to misguide others.
This question defends the use of amulets per se. And it says these are given to people who did not read or write. Also, it is always the verses of the Koran. As far as the numbers are concerned, this science of numbers developed during the time of Syriza
o m m Jaspersoft.
jefra sodic. And the main reason for using numbers was that if the amulet falls down, then it is only a number. Also people go to the washroom wearing amulet. So instead of wearing the verses themselves, it is just the numbers representing the verses. If numbers were not important, then why did Allah prescribed to her after fudgier for footsore and so on your views on this please.
The science of numbers was was not
developed during the time of jafarzadeh That's nonsense. First and foremost, the science of numbers was developed by the Jews
in this number system, which is similar to ours, which goes according to the abjad system, this was developed by the Jews, the use of numbers to have meanings was ancient, it was from the time of the Greeks, the Pythagoras and his followers, they were involved in numerology, numerology is an ancient pseudoscience.
So, it is not the time of job for please whoever said this is nonsense, okay. Secondly,
this, this explanation as it was used in the place of of Quranic verses to avoid because it will be worn and taken into the bathroom and all that, that does not justify it discourages scholars prohibited. They prohibited it, because these numbers do not represent the verses that they claim that they represent. It is numerology and numerology is among the forbidden sciences, their pseudo sciences, they're part of, you know, fortune telling and this used for fortune telling. In fact, the person who use this numbers most recently is Rashad Khalifa.
If you read his writings, he was heavily involved in this same object, you know, calculations. And from it, he was able to claim that he determined the exact date of yamo tiama.
No, this is where this stuff leads to. So
this issue of numerology will say it has no place in Islam at all. Actually, in the book I wrote called the quants, numerical miracle hopes and heresy. You know, I went into a detailed chapter explaining about the history of numerology and its falsity, etc, etc. The other thing about if numbers weren't important, you know, why did a law prescribed to account for fudger in the form of the horse, you know, please
let us not compare numerology to the number that Allah has set for our prayers etc. You know, there's a vast difference is a world of difference, because we don't take these numbers. No, because actually, those people who are involved in the same kind of numerology you find amongst the smiley Shiites, those who will say okay because fudger was turaga lohar was for Raka also was for
And positive is three and Anisha is four. But if you just say 24434 you have done your five times daily prayer.
Yes, that is nonsense. You see, I mean, that is using the numerology of the numbers that's alive said no to to Raka which are set a tour of Casa de tres,
not to be said, quote the number two and then it replaces prayer. So in that way Yes, of course would have definitely deviated you know if they're going to understand the numbers and compare it in a similar life
ever record from the sisters area that some of the sisters are not interested, apparently. And so it asks all of the sisters to appear interested?
know, if one has faith in Allah and constantly seek refuge in Allah? Can that person been hurt by Jim that's maybe in a haunted house or by one with so this? Also what if the faithful person in this case, let's say she's a woman she can make Voodoo because she's in her period? How can she protect herself?
Well, I already explained that but moms are seldom was affected by magic. And in terms of maintaining, you know, and an environment of remembrance of Allah round one, I would say Mohammed wa sallam was the best to do so, you know, we're likely not able to do it as he did it. So, if he did it, then yes, he was affected it means that no matter how hard we try, there, it is still possible for us to be effective, because the reality is that no matter how hard we try, you know, we cannot be in that state of remember the law from the time you wake up till the time you go to speak. So there will be gaps you know, suited to the you know, the different instructions apartments for sale
and gave us now these are things to help us to maintain a consciousness put on your clothes, right side, first left, combing your hair, right, left, you know, put on your shoes, right? These are all things to help us to be conscious of what we're doing remembering to make us look at ourselves in the mirror, you know, we say, you know, to do our law, you know, as you made me, my physical being handsome, you know, make my character also handsome. You know, these, all these things to remember remind us, but it doesn't mean that we now become you know, impervious, we cannot be affected by evil forces. So, no matter how hard I personally try and possible affection is always there. But
what you have to remember is that nothing is going to come to us, except what the law has written for us. And whatever has been written for us and affects us, it is not greater than we are able to handle, because a lot of soldiers locally for long enough and enough to realize a burden any soul beyond its capacity. So it means it's a trial for us to be patient with it. As your patients remember a law, then a law rewards us for our child, and that child becomes a means of purification for us for sins, errors, etc, that we have committed.
Would you say that the jinn are similar in nature to the Christian concept of demons?
There are similarities but as I said before, you know, demons for the Christians represents is represented by fallen angels, that they believe that their angels have rebelled against the law of command. And this is what made them into demons, and so on as part of their abilities. Of course, for us, we don't believe that the angels This will be our last command as the last segment upon where
they do whatever they're commanded to do, they cannot disobey alone.
How can you cure yourself if you don't know who gave you the evil eye?
Well, the problems I tell them gave us particular do is to say, as I mentioned before, you know the comma, which is the truffles, using that using the water from it, drinking it or whatever, as well. So Salim Giri said that this is the cure for evil if we do what he told us, in sha Allah, with trusting in Allah, it will be a source of curing. You know, if we happen to know as I mentioned before, that our seem to connect somebody making some statements or whatever to our illness or our states, then we may seek to use the water that they have, utilize and use that for ourselves. And also, if we don't know then we just use the two hours as I mentioned.
What can a person do if he mistakenly has done something that made the chain angry for example, cutting down a tree in
which reduce visions used to stay and what we do to prevent such a happening because nobody knows in advance that the genes are staying around such a treat.
Well as I said,
the effect I mean what is going to come from, from the from the world of the jinn in terms of affliction to us, what is coming is coming, no matter what you do, you cannot stop it. If Allah is destined for it to happen to you, it is going to happen to you. I mean, there are some things the general advisor which also avoid, which is, you know, flooring, hot water down holes and urinating in holes, and you know, in the ground, etc, you know, we may find them in, you know, for house hunting or whatever, you want to use the bathroom, no toilets to just find a hole someplace. And so maybe it's like a rabbit hole or whatever, you're naked, although, you know, you should not do that.
I were instructed not to do that. But other than that, I mean, you have to carry on with your life. I mean, if there's a tree in your garden that needs to be cut down, cut it down, don't stop worrying, is there a tree and know if I cut it down? If you can't, unless, unless there's clear evidence to you that there is some area where the jinn are. Right? Then you have to carry on with your life, as is and assume that there is that you are in the gym or not.
Seeking you know, it's always and you know, the towers, that is the towers as there was a time utilizing them and saying Bismillah you know, before we do things, you know of importance, these are all among the things that shelter protect us from harming others.
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I really regret that I didn't say earlier because we have more people here on Tuesday night. at our center in Toronto, we're going to have an important lecture for sisters, only. The speaker on that occasion will be
Amita Amita, wife of Dr. Phillips, she's here traveling with him. And she will be speaking on the topic companionship. companionship. So it should be a very important session for the sisters make sure you drop the sisters off. And you know, spend some time around, maybe you can drop the sisters off, go to the German mark and then come back to pick up the sister. It'll be at seven o'clock Tuesday evening. Seven o'clock and my mother will be done. So you can come in and pray Maghrib and take the sisters home. That question Can one team gym and then send the gyms to harm others.
And also at the time of taking a jump out of a person? Can you make a negotiation with that chin?
Okay, first and foremost, there is no shaming of jeans. The jeans were submitted the profits of a man. You know this is
a miracle it was given to him and it was given to him alone. None of the other prophets even had that ability and problems are solved. And that also explained that on one occasion, when agenda tried to destroy him break his prayer, and how he had reached out in the prayer to complain inside reaching out. And he had subdued in the sense that he had gotten it off himself and even thought to try to tie it up, you know in a pillar in the market so people would see it in the morning. And then he remembered as we said to do our Prophet Solomon that the Lord gave him a Dominion which should not be given to anyone out for him and then he refrained from doing so, because this was only given
to prophets in a manner. So there is no Taming of the jinn people who are involved in axogen involved in magic and things related to it. do so through sacrilege basically, then they involve themselves in different sacrilegious acts. And then the jinn will enter into some kind of a contract with them. As long as they do these things. The jinn may do certain things for them.
In terms of IGN coming out of somebody in communicating with a gym, people have done it, but I want people that any kind of communication which takes place with the gym, or our agenda seems to be possessing a particular individual, we cannot trust them, you know,
describe them, you know, as in the case of
where one of the evil genius come to Abu huraira and he had been caught and whereas, caught him he was trying to take something from the car. And he offered him is of course, he This is mentioned in the book again The Exorcist tradition as well as in the book which I translated called me as FA on the jinn.
Anyway,
the process Allah described the evil jinn as saying, Father power, who can do with all the truth, but he is a compulsive liar. I mean, this is a point, evil Jin, possessing anybody, they're compulsive liars, you cannot trust what they say. So if agenda even speaks, you know, somebody will go into started to ask them about, you know, why they came into this person when they came? What's life like in the world of the jinn, you know, and I've even read books that were written whole books of, you know, conversations with the jinn, you know, please
believe that this is nonsense here, you know, you cannot trust what the jinn tell you, etc, you know, try to relate that now as as far as you know, they're involved in evil, you know, as somebody who you know, is, you know, is a particularly evil person, you're not going to trust what they say, you know, you're not gonna go and ask them and then
use whatever answers they give you an based any kind of family practice.
Is it possible for good genes to help the person in some Islamic way? Apparently, the questioner still wants some clarification on that. islamically is the
guy as I said, if it were possible for the jinns to help Muslims in an Islamic way, then the Prophet Martha celemony, Sahaba would have been the first to have gyms helping them, and we have no record of the gyms helping them. So anybody who comes along later, centuries later, people say oh, he was a saint. Why? Because the gyms were helping him No.
Somebody asked me to mention the sister Parveen has tickets for tomorrow's event. So some of the sisters are interested in that please get it from sister party. Now Sue related questions, could you please let us know once more about the treatment according to the sun, that How about gender?
According to
Yes, can you please continue our discussion on as well as relevant prayers to be recited that you could not finish before.
I mean, actually, as I said, before, the time, the time that we had was, was limited, and ready to go through it, I mean, I had a whole three pages of
various drives assessor to be set at different points, you know, in the mornings, in the evenings, before sleeping,
but I don't think really time would permit me to go through each and every one of them. My suggestion, as I said,
is to get the book.
fortification of the Muslim in overview, amid around it's available, the very good collection and most of the drugs on here.
And in terms of the prophetic methodology, and also go back to us and me to go back through, you know, a third of the lecture, which I gave before
Is it wrong? Or is it a sin for a Muslim to visit in non Muslim psychiatry? If yes, Is it wrong to become a psychiatrist or to study psychology?
The basis of psychiatry and psychology is
Freud Do
you know, the ideas of Freud and others are based on evolutionary ideas concerning human beings, they analyze the animals
and farm animal behavior, they then look at human beings and try to interpret human beings according to how animals function okay. So much of what they have to offer is nonsense. Relative relative to human beings, most of it is nonsense, there is a portion of it which comes from observation, which is observation, for example of child psychology, observing children and their behavioral patterns etc. You know, the times at which they you know, they exhibit certain patterns of behavior, etc. Having knowledge of that, in terms of rearing children, useful information are guaranteed
potations of it again, you have to be careful of
a Muslim psychiatry. It's like a contradiction in terms really.
If we just if we define psychiatry in a loose sense, in a way it has to do with, you know, helping people, the psyche, in correcting the problems of the psyche was such a, you know, perhaps we can say, as from Islamic perspective, recitation of crime, you know, some knowledge of people's behavioral patterns, you know, can help in advice, counseling of others, no harm in that sense. But psychiatry, you know, as it is known in the West, for the most part is based on principles of proper disbelief, and,
and
interpreting human behavior, according to the behavior of animals.
He shed some light on the before I do that is one example that I that that comes to mind, you know, of the same movie the psychologists and psychiatrists, what they do.
If you ask people here in the educational system, why is it that I mean, as I knew, when I grew up, I grew up here in Toronto, I went to Java in town, and I went to North view heights. In Philadelphia, in both of these schools as a junior high in high school, there, we had to all the boys had to go swimming naked.
We have to go swimming naked, you weren't allowed to wear swimming trunks.
Unless you had a doctor's lecture, you know, not your parents would not write from the governor. I'm not so glitter. So meaning that you have some kind of deformity or something, you know, you need to hide yourself, right? Otherwise, you had to go swimming naked.
And the showers
Why is this they don't have separate cubicles, that people can go in the door behind, you know, shower in and get out? No, they have a big
room with just shower heads and everybody has to go in there stock naked girls separate but girls altogether stock naked boys Why? What is it is
from psychology and psychiatry, they say that the human, this human behavior of shyness for people when they're naked, they want to cover themselves establishing they say that this is some kind of psychological, you know, imbalance or something wrong here, something wrong in the psyche. Right? They tried to correct it. Because why? Because when you look at the animals, you know, the dogs, the cats, the monkeys, the monkeys are not walking around trying to cover their private parts. No, they walk around, you know, just letting it all hang out. Right? So this is why they want to have this nudist beach here in Toronto, is this the same psychology, the same psychology behind the same
concept that we are animals?
Why should we be shy?
shyness is a psychosis you need to be treated. So, this is this is a clear example of you know, the, the the mentality of you know, psychiatry and psychology you know this, where it is led the modern society.
Can you shed some light on the dark practices of crystal ball gazers, palm readers and fortune tellers?
Do they communicate with Virgin and if so how?
Okay, much of Fortune selling you know, is its whole.
But there is an element amongst them, whether they do it through palm reading, not reading the tea leaves or whatever, there's an element amongst them that are in contact with the gym.
And explained a lot of talks about in the Quran, about someone within that field, or listening of from the heavens, they go up to the lowest Heaven, heaven and where the angels may be talking amongst themselves about things, instructions that they've been given by law to do on the earth, etc, they gain some information of what is going to happen in the future. They pass this on down to the fortune teller on the earth, and he is able to tell you something of the future. But the problem is that I'm said it is one truth mixed with 100 lies.
So what happens is that the fortune teller, they will you come to them, they give you a whole list of things, this is going to happen in your life, that's gonna happen soon. So then you go away. What happens is that how our brain works is that these things end up in our subconscious. You don't keep it in our conscious, we're walking around waiting for these things to happen. No, it goes in our subconscious. When one of these things happens.
Then we think automatically, the fortune teller told me and then you become a propagator for the fortune that he told me the truth he told me you know, he told me that's gonna happen it happened. But you forget forgotten the 99 other things he told you, which didn't happen. So this is this is how our brain works. When things
From the subconscious or reinforced by events in our lives, you know, then that becomes a conscious memory here. But the other things that remain the subconscious, we forget them. So this is what they this is what they operate on. So there will be an element amongst them that will be able to tell us some insight into information or the future. Those are those that tell you information about yourself, which nobody else knows, you come to them, all of a sudden, they're telling you how old you are, you know, where you live, what is your profession, you know, your wife names or your children, you know, people you find doing that, obviously, they're dealing with the jinn, you know,
directly against who you're putting in your brain has all that information. If they are dealing with a particular gene, they get that from that Corinne and pass it on to the fortune teller, and they can inform you. So any form of Fortune selling any form of Fortune selling is Cooper forms, as Alan said, Whoever goes to a fortune teller, out of curiosity, their prayers are not accepted for 40 days and nights. And if they go to fortune teller, believing what the fortune teller says, then they are disbelieved in Islam. This is the statement of amoxicillin. So this means that if we open up our you know, newspaper,
and we know there is a page, right, the page of the horoscope, horoscope article page, the signs of the zodiac telling you for cancer, and Libra, etc, you know, what can happen for you today, what you should do what you shouldn't do, if you go to that page, and start reading, out of curiosity that don't believe in
yourself, that is going to the fortune teller
that is gonna throw the fortune teller operates today. That's modern fortune telling. In the past, they didn't have newspapers, so you had to go down the block to the fortune teller, the local fortune teller, and he would run it down to you today you can put it in a newspaper when you buy it and then you're going to the fortune teller. So, you have to avoid that page avoid reading that
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as possible.
In the colonial malgin Is it possible to converse with the jinn and halogen? No. Yes, the haka, ko shalom.
Shalom in kiama. How will the generals realize the shape on the day adjustments? And how the home agenda Houma janome
una Malini, do they have a separate channel? And Johanna? Or are they going to dwell with the human beings? So we have enough
* from the crime itself. So it's indicated for the jinn. I mean, there's just one, heaven and health is not a gym heaven for human beings and heaven for the gym. And in terms of what form they will take on the Day of Judgment, they will take the form that the law has determined for them. We were not at liberty to describe, we don't know what they look like in the first place. You know, we're not of liberty to try to describe what they're going to look like. And then they have judgment. Now I have more than one questions about sleeping or if a person is sleepwalking. Does that occur? Anything to do with gin or craziness? And if a person talks or lost during the sleep, is
that anything to do? Yes. That's a repeated question. sleepwalking again, of course, has nothing to do with the gym. It's a phenomenon which no people experience in various parts of the world. I mean, there's no particular evil, connected with it, just like walking in the street.
Now it is getting a bit late. And sometimes we have to bring it to a close. I have some questions for myself, which I have not entertained tonight, because you can always ask them later. But I've concentrated on the questions for Dr. Phillips, because he'll be flying out in Sharla on Wednesday morning. So let me invite you to come out tomorrow night to hear him some more at Glen forest secondary school in Mississauga, unenthused. In nice to hear the system. We'll be speaking on companionship, as is our answer. Please smile for that program, as well as anything else you'd like that one last word, anything final. Just you know, with regards to the whole topic of gin
possession, again, just to reiterate that, what our responsibility is, is not to become so fearful, where you know, every every sound, we hear everything with seems out of place, you know, become
a genius. Anything we've lost or some genius stolen it, you know, we try to avoid trying to put the gin to explain everything that happens in our lives. And I was in control to continue to live live normal lives, lives based on trusting the law, you know, doing, what the law is commanded, et cetera. And when
Utilize whatever drives and practices proposal and offer up to protect ourselves. And if we are tried, we're given some form of trial by the gym, no to them affecting our lives and we have to try to be patient with it. Something in the law, that this is a separate from us, and in our patience, allow rewards and removes from us our sin. He was one last one. Just very quickly, a brother is very concerned that he wakes up in the morning and he finds three scratches on his legs. And he's wondering about that because there's no reason why he could have got those crashes from his bed. How do you interpret them? a cap on
actually.
I mean, I can't really say you know, my liberty to say, this is not anything that I've come across when people say you know, one of the signs to know that there's a gene in your house that you received three scratches on your leg. You know, I would just say if you've been scratched, you know, get a bandaid, put it over it. You know, utilize whatever the prophet SAW Selim gave us of glass we swirl around in your home pocket and said when we sold the home, the evogene will not come there for some three days and nights. So utilize the things that gave us and inshallah we will be protected.