Bilal Philips – Islam & Science Part 2
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The speakers discuss the limits of science and the potential for false information. They touch on the use of ultrasound to measure heart conditions and the potential consequences of domesticated animals being considered "immediate of the wild." They also discuss the use of language in communication and the importance of strong political and moral character to build faith. The segment touches on the misperception of people and the use of animals as bait.
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I left with a lie, we cannot give rational explanations for everything.
Ali
said that if your religion were a reasoned, rational thought, this was the whole of religious fundamentalists and then
the bottom of the stock
should be wiped and not the top,
you know, when we make will do and we wipe our socks in place of washing our feet, the bathrooms should be washed, white and not the top. However, he said, I saw the messenger of Allaah wipe the top, not the bottom.
So, we understand that there are limits to man's ability to explain rationally everything.
there are dangers in trying to do that
people start to twist,
meaning
practices
can find themselves in a fix. I know of one particular case where this is how its lab was presented to a particular individual Washington,
that everything was rationed according to the experiment.
And after he learned that, you know, what you make will do
when you pass when you have to make will do all over again.
Get him to the election. And we are going to actually how this is why
everything else needs to make sense.
You've just watched that you explain rationally when you're making blue, you're watching these parts of your body which are normally exposed and you finished new parts when we when you watch these parts off, did you get them
while you watch me,
john came up
and it was very left Islam because
we pray it would find his way back eventually, but
the reality cannot try to rationally deal with everything
much of it is very rational, very reasonable, very practical, but there are aspects of it known only to Allah is
commanded us to do them, we believe that there is
a good reason for them.
But
we may not be able to
understand
why these things may be revealed to you
and allow wishes to reveal
you see the verses you know
the nurses which refer to it talk about a series of things about just *
and
when a child
is initially conceived,
ultrasound cannot determine the * of that child.
Even in the early development of the child,
though, you know they take samples of the amniotic fluid and they analyze and try to determine this they tell you is that 100% true. Still partially guesswork. They say this was going to be a boy or girl.
So they do not have clear though.
In terms of ultrasound This is below when the child has developed a certain point
But what is is referring to in terms of the womb of the woman here, you know, and also in the verse, it refers to what? Whether a child would be born dead, whether to be born alive
is actually equivalent to that. In other words, when you put all the bricks together, I mean this, we find this reference there, what is in the world, what is in the world.
This is one aspect of it that we are not able to see,
we cannot see who will be born naturally with our hands.
In the general
May, we may see the clouds and rain comes. But not every cloud, which you see did
the weatherman he predicts because it's rain in Jordan and that cloud is coming here, then Arabia,
oftentimes is correct, that sometimes
knowledge May, you know, give us put us in a position where we're able to predict things a bit more, you know, to some degree, but it is not real knowledge, in the sense of absolute knowledge, we don't have that.
Scientifically, you know, they have shown and not to say this is the reason and the only reason, they've shown that, you know, it's the main carrier of tuberculosis to get a disease called tickler worm which
softens in the flesh of the
pig. And it requires very high degrees of
cooking in our high temperatures. For this to be killed, most people are not able to on a normal stove to reach temperatures. But it is still we understand that it goes beyond that. Because if somebody says to you, Well, okay, you got you know, a very powerful I've been here now we're gonna get a miss temperature, are you ready to say no, no, because just because you found one of the hearts doesn't mean that this was the one and only heart. They've also told people who have heart disease, they're told not to eat
pork because it has a high degree of fat,
which is deposited in your system. Also, scientists in recent times have also shown that we are not able to break down
the fact of the cow and the goats, we have the enzymes to break it right on down and reassemble it in our bodies, big fat, it's broken down into smaller molecules, but it is redeposited in the system as this
is the one doctor Dr. Tucker.
He then extensively the nutritionist done extensive research and he has a book on
soaring scientifically and effective to target certain other animals to kind of work on
or off the primitive
quality.
So they may be something else which you know, come from the Arduino. IDE, some scholars have pointed out you know, this is now reasoning that
you are what you eat.
What you eat you're using to build your system up with certain animals carry certain characteristics which are part of their nature. You break this animal down in your body and you rebuild yourself with it.
It could affect
Well, we can say pork,
animals die of themselves in one way or another, either by strangling falling the gourd the variety of different ways basically, pork and animals would stab themselves.
But then the public talks on them
based on revelation, expanded that to include
carnivorous animal
whether birds or land animal
aquatic animals
considered to be of halau
because we know that he has
an animal's dies in the sea, we eat
read the fish without watering everything else we have to slaughter
but the fish it dies
dolphin leap
to the dog, which is safe when you send the dog
it's not really good or bad.
If you find it alive when the when when the will you find the gallows is still living then you slaughtered, which is already dead, you are alive
with me because this way we are saying that the fact that what makes an animal halala arise is not a question of the blood coming out of the body is a mistaken explanation some people have given their entire out of the blood remains in the body, cut the neck and allowed it to live properly, then it becomes allowed. Because if
a non Muslim, Hindu or communist, would it
he slaughters that animal and says in the name of a law, you can't
you're not allowed to do this.
And if you sloppy the animal and didn't say the name of a law, you're not allowed to.
So it is not merely an issue of allowing the blood to flow or not allowing the blood no doubt
there is to a certain degree harm in the blood of the animal. Seeing this scientifically like getting the germs of the body purifying the body process, you know that sometimes.
However,
wild game, again, has another quality as another is put in another situation from domesticated animals. Like you're allowed to eat a wild donkey but you're not allowed to eat a domesticated dog
the different this is why is a solid job animal in this in this in the wild, which is to call a bore.
You know, the question is, is this edible? Believe it or not, he looks like a pig.
Right? We've got
we've got a peak
animals of the wild have a different
ruling, quite a stark law to the domesticated.
So we're a wild animal an animal of the wild which is killed by your pocket bird you have a bird that you trained to kill or
capture dogs
that these if they die before they reach you you're allowed to eat them. I mean there's a there's a lot of causes another factor which is involved in terms of the way in which they live
if you're a trained dog, in one day jumped over the fence and killed one of the sheep
in the case of hunting and the other wild animals
with a difference of opinion concerning some they will you know it looks like you belong to the same family the similar you know
form but if you look at the wild boar his lifestyle is different from the pig which is which is
the hyena for example,
your hyena, you look like a dog
right.
And he will eat
first
but he
did
and the crocodile making
Hello.
And what happens is that those people in Egypt in Lower Egypt they commonly eat
in those who talk about the flesh of the hyena if you read about it in the encyclopedia it
I mean the comparison between it and dogs
difference. The flesh is sweet. It is not foul smelling or
you know we made me feel repulsed by the idea of a hyena. But however there are people who eat it and it is implemented
where's the the living in the water and living on the land is not an issue of whether something is halal or haram
you know, what is an issue is
whether, as the land animal
is killed
by the tooth,
or its flies and killed by the claw.
Now, the crab does not kill by the two does not
whether it's happened to water hop on land or leaves on the land all the time.
But the commissar Phelan said
that the birds which killed by the claw are prohibited
the land animals live animals which kill with the eyetooth are prohibited the coop does it does the crab flag
does it bite with the item
we can't do it
some people would say for example you have some scholars who rules for example, that the shark was prohibited
because in Arabic in the past it was referred to as the sea dog
can't eat the dog and land with you Katie.
Similarly, the proper way because in Arabic just call him zero.
So
the ruling in Islam according to what you call the animal or the animal is attracted see animals or alpha land animals which are killed by the eye to wild animals and birds killed by the claw
other than that
well you have some snakes which killed with the eye to
those that do we then have to say aha
and those that don't
not play the golf
so we have a means of determining those which are allowed
if you buy
a snake in your home
and this is specifically referred to me
I mean I've learned and been generally looked at a whole when he was referring to talk about in the homes in Medina right you find a snake and
you are told to
commanded to leave
because
makes particularly those in the homes in Medina
the Jin
Jin live in snake form
if it does not leave after you've commanded it, then you are permitted to kill
the good
any guy what would the gym have an area without understand the language of
like a dog for example, right? People who train dogs for example in Germany using German you tried to use English in
Prague. Very easy.
And it's a very easy to flog. Kill with the IP
the delicacy of France
Why is
it important?
I usually admit it was prepared in France, but the French
because the French state and the US it's bought out by the French we have many countries that are producing
what's not occurred to me, Dave you better say it is not edible, then you must bring evidence from the client or from the seller. We don't have I mean, what somebody may say well, it comes down to the general category of combat is
you know, filthy things
what to show people you will not be fooled into somebody else you can can't you can't use that because that is varying according to culture and society.
They what is known to be filthy by all people.
What may vary from society to society
chocolate coated and Bs
into China with the commonly do the
leave fish,
the ether, they leave it to rot and the juices that dip on it, they put a plate of rice on the knee and when it's good at rockin in the ether
you'll find it offensive smell.
estimate is a delicacy among
different cultures.
You cannot say
you know like the the devil desert lizard here they call the duck
body
which
was presented to the problem of us I love to eat before he ate delicious, whatever his wife told him was, you know, I
had no idea she informed him that this was rough. So he didn't.
And but I think it was the soldiers there beside him. He
said no, I just in the area we are promising but they're not
making a profit.
People have different likes and dislikes.
Some of them been taught for it or they're part of the body you may find it in books.
Especially
because they have generally done a lot of speculation.
Using the mind to reason out many, many different things going beyond the tech.
So you'll find quite often they've ended up
prohibiting or allowing things which
are not
thought of as a school of thought is the one which is the farthest from requirements.
If you determine that it contains it, then it would be perfect to do
no no but this is a different issue
is a different issue that which is coming in food products.
They have
testing systems here, which are spectral analysis which are for Tomic analysis
and
for that particular pattern,
It's very quick to food, if they identify, not dropping the country.
But animals, which are slaughtered in Britain are considered to be allowed.
Even though they're not according to Islamic, what we call Islamic methods,
a lot of them
strangled or clubbed to death.
The next cut, that is sufficient
without this thing, a lot of name over requirements
for them, we're allowed to give them permission to eat it at another issue. I know some people have taken the position that if they do not realize name and country, the neck of the animal the same way that we do, then it's hot. But actually, it's an extreme position.
More correct position is that as long as the people are Christian people are Jewish people as a whole.
Then some people say, Well, you know, they're not the Christians and the Christians at the time of the Prophet, I said, let me know.
They were talking about a live stream, you can
be the same people who are allowed to marry the woman and he
animal
we play that's not an argument.
As long as they don't take it, they take another name other than a lot of things. Are they kill the animal with electricity, strangled animal, no, do that.
But usually, I know, in America, they use a gun, right?
stun gun, but doesn't kill the animal, it just gives it a blow to the head, which puts it unconscious. So they can control it just for purposes of you know,
handling the animal
that has
determined that this does not kill the animal,
it is determined and it kills the animal then it becomes
as far as we found out
what was being done with animals.
They have a vegetable source for gelatin.
As you can get jello,
which is
for vegetables.
When you take God out of the picture,
what you have is what is known as survival of the fittest.
The law of the jungle.
This is why
when they
people who propose the Darwinian theory, when they started to fit man into the picture, and, and, you know, give images,
they would always put the image of the European man as the one in the end.
The others, you know, who are the Asian man, the African Man, these were stages of evolution.
So this was like justification for their colonial colonization of the rest of the world and the * of the various societies because they were the people.
They're the ones who you know, survival of the fittest.
justification that's all about, you know, who has the most power and can use it to their own personal benefit.
So, science, you know, in, in that, in what is known as Western modern Western science, is leaning toward finding justifications for this concept, which remains, although, you know, there have been changes. Because
anthropology, you know, found the earliest, and the earliest of men or what seems to be the remains of the early men kept finding them in Africa. They ran into a problem here. So
black Americans, you know, made a big noise about this in the Smithsonian Institute there in Washington. Know, the first man he's presented as a European man, everybody else
as a European man, but this conflicts with, you know, even the evidence that they've gathered. So eventually this year for the, you know, or just last year at the end of last year, they, they closed down the exhibit for the evolution of man and put the first man as being, you know, a doctor.
skin, you know, African Asian mixture of a man.
So, their own research is causing them to have to back down off some of these positions, but still, you know, in the, in the mind, indeed, that produced the literature etc, this concept is still there
man's existence
is by accident, and whatever you can get out of this life
that's what it's all about.
And this is also why you find in the West,
the Hindu philosophy has become very popular.
Because the Hindu philosophy of reincarnation,
it fits in with this materialist approach, why don't you can get out of this life,
have a good time, you know, get the best. Because when you die, you got another chance, you know, you can come back and try it again, if you go get some more or whatever. So,
you know, you're sort of absolved of really having to do good, per se, though, in the theory, as the Hindus teach it, you know, you do go through stages, if you are a bad guy in this life, you know, you're you go down the evolutionary ladder, you may end up with the answer, you know,
a worm or something like that the next life, right? However, you know, the Westerners, they key in more on you know, you just got another chance. And so you'll find a lot of people coming up now in talking about the earlier lives are doing, putting people onto hypnosis and talking about Oh, they were distant time with the Romans and they live different lives they went through. So it's sort of promoting and more and more this idea, you know,
take what you can
human with responsibility to your fellow man, not important.
Now, they're producing the blue Rose and the white rose
This is knowledge human knowledge of the workings of the animal kingdom has allowed men to manipulate to a certain degree, what to create is manipulating
is not creating is manipulate
the ability to produce a white rose existed in the road plan
or to produce a rule they exist in the world class ability a
man with his knowledge of the genetics etc, you know, has been able to manipulate So, that disability is broken
you know, we have the Mandarin
cross between the tangerine and ours you know,
but, thing is that these
are have not really produced
what we could say a new species
is still within the same family.
Some of the hybridization will take place even naturally
some of it takes place
in both the animal kingdom as well as the plant.
So, this is not beyond our This is not evidence for evolution and this is not beyond the concept of special creation.
Well, of course, mores book, I
felt that this was
unscientific.
And on the basis of this, he argued that, you know, heavy 3d literature cannot be ready to truck, you cannot obstruct it in as so far as it agrees with what the scientific fact, however,
of the Cobra
you know, and we've always known that you are bitten by a cobra, you drink some of his poison to kill you.
Yes, we're now using that poison for people who have heart problems,
to help
their heart problems,
you have a number of different medicines and medicinal techniques now, which are employing what was commonly known in the past to be harmful.
So, just because
human science has not reached the point where they have not researched it in depth does not become a point of research to determine
those because we have not found that doesn't mean that the Hadees is not
unscientific, no, all we can say is
knowledge today
shows us that drive will carry microbes and so on.
And that this carries certain diseases.
However, that does not deny the possibility that within the fly, it carries.
This is the we could say this is an area where Muslim scientists have failed.
Because Science in the Muslim world is following the words.
After the period of colonization, the rise of European powers was the decline of the Muslim countries, we find that science also when it's a decline
was not such.
So mostly they're serving and working in western institutions, and following Western trends. However, if Muslims were independent,
developing their own research centers, etc, etc. This is an area of research which could be followed. Because
when I look at something like that, right, why would take that position is because there are so many other things that have proven to be true from the Prophet, for example,
and I mentioned this to you all before, our fellow had informed us that it is this like to sleep on one's stomach.
It is only in these last 10 years that scientists,
doctors, now tell us, you should not sleep on your stomach.
You should not even put your child to sleep on it. They're saying this is a common factor in the cost death and the sudden death syndrome amongst children.
For forgotten people, the main cause of back problems, the, you know,
problems in the distance and the
curvature of the spine essentially says caused from sleeping on the stomach, because there's no support from
the, for the spine.
When we look at that, you know, and
there are other things that the prophet SAW Selim has spoken about, which in our recent times, you know, we've come to realize and understand the prohibition of pork, for example, in more recent times, followed
biological evidence for the harm that is there isn't.
We understand that
what has been given to us by the problem of
command to government
This is based on revelation from Allah. And it is the truth.
The fact that we don't have the evidence to understand that truth does not mean that it isn't the truth.
So we don't you know, as Muslims for example, in Western tradition apply falls in the juki. Throw away the milk.
In the climate tradition, five falls in this flying destroy mode.
Don't wait.
So when we consider
the Muslims for example, in situations where their
food, drink etc is limited,
who are saved themselves by being utilized by being turned away
without having to wait 50 years from now and finally science comes across the evidence
in the fly,
they follow the regulation.
And then as the Muslim who did not lie on the stomach, who circumcised themselves did not drink blood did not eat pork, it's up to us for follow the commandments of Allah
in the Quran, or through the provenance, SLM direct teachings have saved themselves a benefit.
In both this life as well.
evolving to be faster,
we can see that there is development in Japan, they just got into newspapers recently that this generation of Japanese are taller and heavier than the last generation, their diet has changed. It affects the people. Now you start to see people, you know, like a man who now trades specializes in athletic you giving him a special diet and learning all these techniques about muscle
development.
But does he become a bird that he became a boy he's changing as they no longer mammal is still a man.
So development in men, we don't deny this possibility.
effect change basically it will say when they say use the term * change, this is induced.
I mean, you may have people you know, who are they call hermaphrodites, people who have both male and female organs. And at some point in their life, one may dominate the other, or depending on their upbringing, one, you know, they may parents may consider him to be a boy. And then later on, as the other
hormones kick in, they change over and they're considered a girl This is like a natural process that happens.
Whereas the in the case where I'm natural way where an individual decides, well, I just want to be a woman.
You know, homosexual decide I don't want to be a man anymore, I want to be a woman. So they surgically change that individual pump him up with hormones, so that you know, he doesn't grow beard anymore and etc, physical changes take place in his body.
You know, man's ability to, to mutilate man,
nothing new
castration of the past
version.
Because, of course, when a person is calculated when they do this enroll, to keep the boys
in the choir, you know, be able to sing those high notes
say to the kids, so they were very
affected them physically, of course, when you you know, make some manipulations to the body This can cause certain other physiological changes in the body. This is nothing
supernatural beyond what it could be expected.
The origin of life
he's taking you know a
verse in the four hour law says that he created
every living thing from water.
What this refers to
whether it is
literally liquid, water aquatic origin, or as some people love to propose that water is made of h2o,
hydrogen or oxygen, hydrogen being the primary particle as far as we can know basic atomic structure goes a
primary factor in all living
systems as we know them.
Whether it's as diverse as the other,
we cannot argue. Either way, though, we would argue that
water
was not and in other words, Man did not come out of a water being that, you know, crawled up on land that eventually evolved into a man.
But water is essential to learn
the human body is, is
mostly water, the huge proportion of water.
And all of the living organisms that we know this water, is there
a legal thing that the court actually, you know, has pointed to a fact that science now is able to put together that water is a key factor, all living
and in the process of their individual development in was one produced from that one, water is involved is a key element.
reinforce what you said.
I think there's an aspect of genetics, which may be useful, for example, you know, they're they have developed certain strains of
are working on developing certain strains of weeds or certain plants that will have certain other organisms along with them, which will be resistant to certain
other organisms.
So this involves the process of genetic engineering, within the limits of helping to aiding men in utilizing the resources that God has given him, fine. But now, when you're using it in the sense of, Oh, I want to create the perfect man.
You know, I want to remove all the problems, you know, that
cause people to go this way or to go that way. It's within this kind of create, now a new manner. This is where that science has gone astray.
Where we may, for example, look in a people who have certain genetically transmitted diseases, which helps us by and large metrics will help us to determine such a such a person, they're likely to have such and such offspring, we need to monitor pregnancies, it's also beneficial.
But now why do we use it in the other way? Well, welcome this now we're able to determine whether you're getting a boy or a girl. So now if you're getting a girl embryo, you abort, that, you know, you try again, you keep trying for a boy, now it becomes distorted
because you're taking life
on justifiable.
So, I mean, science, you know, or what knowledge is available of the universe
is a gift from a law, which could be used
islamically
acceptable to God would be an act of worship. It's in the service of men, recognizing the greatness of God, or it can be used
against the way of God, you know, the law describes Satan, you know, as trying to get men to deviate, you'll come to him from one side and the other, and he will encourage him and until he tries to change,
command him change sooner,
a lot sooner, or the way of aligning creation to try to change
the state
and that's the fantastic use of the knowledge
With all knowledge will have
both sides, either godly climate use or the satanic.
So the science in and of itself, we don't
know,
how you use it will determine its origins, the knowledge and some of
this knowledge in its origin in the pure how you use it, keeps it in Islamic vein, or takes it in the satanic
questions from our sisters in the back.
No,
with a fairy tale, you know which
another
fairy tale.
So, wishful thinking is what happens is look them in a state of weakness.
Where they are
looking at really what they have
as being
somehow deficient,
looking at themselves as deficient, you know, the West Nile become
without somebody from the west, so they're looking for a miracle, you know, like they just had in, in England, I read in the paper recently, a man there, opened up an egg plant. And he found a law written in.
And people Muslims are making a pilgrimage to this man's home to see this holy crap. This is in the statement, what is the poverty?
Like Muslims, you find them caught up in this idea. And of course, this is nonsense.
We don't accept it. But it keeps coming up. You know, I remember, some years back they had a picture of, of the brown killed two tubes of the lung. And some, aside from the doctors, both are found within, on everybody's Broncos to La ilaha illAllah, Muhammad arugula.
And they showed the picture, but of course it happened. It manipulated, you know, the picture is very grainy black and white picture, they manipulated it to find that
somebody found a fish, you know, in India, you know, is alarming.
If we get caught up in this kind of foolish
political fluke of nature, and much of it is, you know, exaggerated and amplified. If you're going to accept that now you're going to make pilgrimage, when the when the Christian finds a fish with a crop, and it's what are you going to do?
And for sure you find one,
what are you going to do?
Of course, for us as Muslims, we know, our faith is not based on, you know, what we could call a fluke of nature is not the basis of our faith, our faith is based on firm knowledge of revelation which has been given to us, which applied in our lives we see as something beneficial and real as improve the quality of our lives. Our character, our moral character, no.
This is why.
So
we don't
subscribe to these kinds of you know, because even individual
what happened The same thing happened legit 34, former
head of the Communist Party in France, who was a presidential candidate, he accepted Islam. And the Muslim world went wow, you know, Rajiv Gandhi accept great philosophers. You know, I didn't, then he was brought around the world to give talks here there. For him, it is given to us why he accepted the contract. But then people started to make asking, you know, to give interpretations of the parameters. And of course, the man doesn't have this kind of background knowledge, but because he was a philosopher, and instead of when they you know, gave him something of Islam, they sat him down and started to teach him, you know, as a child, again, from ABC, because when you come into some
have to go back to the beginning, you know, they allowed him to come in as a philosopher and on a philosophy as an explanation for everything. And of course, when he put his mind to the cry, he could find explanations. And of course, what happened is that these explanations were in contradiction to what we know to be correct. People try to correct them.
Of course, the philosophy
can't back down now you can back though, philosopher he is, he's not going with the facts anymore, it becomes a question of ego and all these other kinds of things. So he ended up making your ethical statement.
And this man prior to this, he was given the, you know,
I feel a ward and you know, orthotic knowledge and
now he's looking at it
so he's doing the benefit that could be taken from him to the degree of the knowledge that we have.
But Muslims in their, you know, this state where you know, anything coming from the West Valley just gone crazy, you know, they this Maddie accepted Islam and
they exaggerated
his position.
And, of course, cause him
some of the graders with him of course, but they put him in that position of terror.
And,
and as I said, it's a reflection basically of the weakness of Muslims today, as they are like the what they call the blind, the drowning man, you know, clutching at straws,
drowning, anything, he sees a straw floating by drowning.
You sit a bit, you're gonna grab a strike, that gives you a float, but you're drowning you grab on to anything.
This is the approach, very unfortunate. And of course, it means that we will continue to find these kind of stories circulating in the Western world and your examples of a law being found in nature, for your clients, etc. But this was to understand the reality of such
phenomena. And to try to educate those around us to the ridiculousness of considering these things to be wholly in.
No.
He made some errors and
you could say in
rationally trying to deal with
some of the attributes