Ashraf Schneider – Trinity Explained Through H2O

			Salam Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh peace blessings mercy be upon you all. I recently had a
conversation with a brother from South Africa that was trying to explain the Trinity to me. And he
basically stated that the Trinity is like h2o, that can exist in both esteem state, a water states
and a solid state like this.
		

			Right. But there are some problems with the statement. Now, h2o rightfully can exist as a steam as a
liquid, and as a solid. However, ultimately, it cannot be all three at once. You see, the Trinity
itself consists of God, that is in three different persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy
Spirit, and these three entities are co equal and CO eternal. Now, even alluding to that, that you
know, issue Oh cannot exist in these three states. We also find another problem with the Trinity
pertaining specifically to this.
		

			The Trinity itself is functioned on the concept of CO equality. Now, what that means is that the
Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are coequal, meaning that they are all powerful, all knowing
itself sufficient. And we know fundamentally the nature of God does not change this can be found in
the biblical text, this can be found in the Quran. Now, although it is true to h2o, that its nature
does not change in that it can be a liquid, a solid or a steam state. And yet it remains a true Oh,
the same cannot be said to the Trinity. Let me explain. Now, the nature of God is that He is
Almighty. And what makes him Almighty are His names and attributes. For instance, He is the Most
		

			Merciful, the Most forgiving, he is the just he is the all powerful, the All Knowing the self
sufficient, in the concept of the Trinity, all three persons are co equal, meaning that the nature
of all three persons are the same.
		

			However, this cannot be said pertaining to Jesus Christ, peace and blessings be upon him. Because he
was not all powerful. He says that out of my own self, I can do nothing. He was not all knowing. He
says that of the final day in our nobody knows that only God the Father knows. And he was not self
sufficient. You had to eat Yeah, to sleep, yeah, to find care from his mother, and so forth. And
fundamentally, what we find is that first and foremost, this analogy of h2o being in these three
different states, cannot be applied to the Trinity itself, and that even the concept of the Trinity
is flawed when we use this analogy against itself. Now, even if we look at the Trinity from a
		

			historical aspect, we find that it is also very questionable, until the year 325. At the Council of
Nicaea. The concept of CO equality between the father and the son did not formally exist until the
year 381, at the Council of Constantinople. That was the first time that the Holy Spirit found
itself within this concept of equality between the Father and the Son. And it was only hear that the
concept of the Trinity was formally ratified as we understand it today. So I'm going to leave a link
in the description where you can look at the history of the Trinity. And I'll also leave scholarly
references throughout. So you can look at this for yourself. But I just really wanted to address
		

			this today. And why even if we look at the biblical text, there are so many contradictions towards
this concept. I mean, even if you look at the book of John chapter 17, verse three, where Jesus says
that this is eternal life, that they may know you the only true God and me whom You have sent. And
he's speaking to the Father as being the only true God and Himself as the son having been sent by
God. Ultimately, we find that there's only one true Almighty God, and for Jesus Christ, peace and
blessings be upon him. That was the god of the prophets of Abraham, Moses, Ezekiel, Elijah, Jonah,
Joshua, and that was his God, His God that he worshiped. He never assumed himself as being an
		

			almighty creator, or as being God, and he submitted onto this creator. So I just wanted to leave you
guys with us today. May you have a blessed day and blessed week and I look forward to speaking with
you again soon. If you have any questions, feel free to ask it in the comment section, and I will
respond as soon as possible. May the Almighty bless you take care