Ali Ataie – Ramadan Reflections Sincerity

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The transcript discusses various disputed claims made by different people on Christ's birth, including the confusion surrounding the Bible's Christology and the use of the word Isa Alonioness. It also touches on the history of Jesus's claims to be God and the church's use of divine characteristics in their worship. The title references the holy Bible and the importance of understanding it in understanding the holy things of God.

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			Ramadan Kareem.
		
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			This is the blessed month. This is
		
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			a month,
		
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			the month of the Quran. This is the
		
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			month in which Allah,
		
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			favored humanity
		
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			by revealing,
		
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			the final revelation,
		
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			the Quran.
		
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			As Muslims, we believe
		
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			in the totality of the revelation.
		
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			We believe in the wahi, the revelation
		
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			that came to the prophets of old.
		
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			We believe in the revelation received by Ibrahim,
		
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			alayhis salam, and Ismael, alayhis salam,
		
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			to Musa, alayhis salam,
		
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			Ta'is salaam.
		
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			And finally, culminating
		
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			with the Quran, the revelation received by our
		
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			master, Muhammad
		
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			the Quran
		
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			is
		
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			a truly unique book.
		
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			It is the source
		
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			of our,
		
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			social theory, of our political theory,
		
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			of our ethics,
		
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			and of our theology.
		
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			Theology is an interesting word from theos, and
		
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			Greek, and logos,
		
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			to speak about God.
		
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			So what does the Quran say about Allah
		
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			subhanahu wa ta'ala? In other words, what does
		
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			Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
		
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			say about himself?
		
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			Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala gives us
		
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			a beautiful surah in the Quran, which is
		
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			the essence according to the ulama,
		
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			it is the essence of our theology.
		
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			It is the kernel, the core of our
		
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			theology.
		
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			Qas Suratul Ikhlas,
		
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			this Surah has many names.
		
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			Al Ikhlas is one of them.
		
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			Al Asas,
		
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			the foundation.
		
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			At Tawhid,
		
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			the Surah of Divine Unity.
		
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			Allah
		
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			commands the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam,
		
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			Say he is Allah.
		
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			He is Ahad, he is 1.
		
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			Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala
		
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			is absolutely 1.
		
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			He has no partners.
		
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			Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala does not share his,
		
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			his divine attributes,
		
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			with anything or anyone from the creation.
		
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			Allah subhanahu
		
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			wa ta'ala is absolutely independent.
		
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			He did not beget nor was he begotten.
		
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			And there's nothing comparable unto Allah
		
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			So the Quran
		
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			presents itself
		
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			is not only a,
		
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			a confirmation
		
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			for, a confirmation of what went before
		
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			with respect to the previous revelations and dispensations.
		
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			For example,
		
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			Allah
		
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			as we said,
		
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			describes himself as Ahad. This is also how,
		
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			Musa alaihis salam,
		
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			describes
		
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			God in the Torah.
		
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			That he is
		
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			in the Hebrew. And are are exact cognates.
		
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			That he's absolutely one.
		
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			But the Quran also is a corrective.
		
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			It corrects
		
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			the false theologies
		
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			that had crept in,
		
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			to the previous Ummah.
		
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			And the dominant opinion as well is that
		
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			the Quran
		
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			is a text that also,
		
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			is the
		
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			way by which we can judge the previous
		
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			scriptures.
		
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			Because when we look at the previous scriptures,
		
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			for example, the Hebrew Bible or the New
		
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			Testament gospels,
		
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			there are things in those books that are
		
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			very questionable.
		
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			From our perspective, things that are simply impossible.
		
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			There are things that are attributed to prophets
		
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			that could not be possible.
		
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			So this is called
		
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			that there's been a corruption of the actual
		
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			text.
		
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			And this is something that's
		
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			admitted by historical scholars
		
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			of the old and new testament.
		
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			Quran,
		
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			made this claim
		
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			14 centuries ago.
		
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			So the Quran is
		
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			correcting
		
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			these previous,
		
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			the beliefs of the previous peoples.
		
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			Now one of the ways in which Allah
		
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			subhanahu wa ta'ala corrects
		
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			the theology
		
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			of the previous peoples is with respect to
		
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			something called Christology.
		
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			So as Muslims, and this is something that
		
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			is interesting for a lot of non Muslims
		
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			to hear, is that Muslims actually believe
		
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			in the Isa alaihis salam as a prophet
		
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			in Jesus Christ, peace be upon him. And
		
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			Jesus is from the Greek, Iesus. We say
		
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			Isa.
		
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			His actual name in Aramaic is Yeshua.
		
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			And then Christ, Christ doesn't mean anything like
		
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			like he was crucified or something like that.
		
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			Christ is from the Greek Christos,
		
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			which is a translation of the Hebrew Moshiach,
		
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			which means the anointed one, Al Masih.
		
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			So, Risa Al Masih.
		
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			So in the Quran,
		
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			we have a corrected or renewed Christology.
		
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			Right? Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala in other words,
		
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			tells us the truth about Isa Alaihi Salam.
		
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			So we have what's known as
		
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			a positive Christology.
		
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			What is Isa alaihis salam? And the what,
		
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			you know, the the essence. Who is he
		
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			essentially?
		
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			Is he human being or is he God?
		
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			Of course, Christians believe that he's both, that
		
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			he's a,
		
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			he is a divine incarnation.
		
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			He's a 100% man and a 100% God.
		
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			That's called Trinitarian
		
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			Christianity or Chalcedonian
		
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			Christianity.
		
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			So what is a sallaihi salam? And what
		
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			is what is he not?
		
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			And then we have something called
		
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			negative Christology.
		
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			So so who is a Isai alaihi Salam,
		
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			and who is he not? So positive and
		
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			negative,
		
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			with respect to what and who, the essence
		
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			in the particular.
		
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			So our position as Muslims of our position,
		
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			which is based in the Quran,
		
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			is that, Isa alaihis salam. What is he
		
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			essentially? He's a human being. He's a messenger.
		
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			Had Khaled bin Qabihi Rusl. Many messengers went
		
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			away before him.
		
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			Now who is he?
		
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			According to the Jewish position,
		
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			Ysalalai Salam was simply a rabbi.
		
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			And the way that he's presented in sacred
		
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			Jewish texts
		
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			is,
		
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			not very well.
		
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			Very unflattering terms.
		
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			In the Talmud, for example, the Babylonian Gemara,
		
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			he's insulted. He's denigrated. His mother is denigrated.
		
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			The Christians,
		
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			with respect to what is Jesus Christ, peace
		
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			be upon him, what is his essence? They
		
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			say he's divine.
		
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			Who is he? They say he's a prophet.
		
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			He's the Messiah.
		
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			So we confirm the latter, that Isa alayhi
		
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			salam is a prophet.
		
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			And the Quran says,
		
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			Oh, people of Al Kitab. And perhaps Al
		
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			Kitab here is the Bible because the word
		
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			Bible, Biblion, literally means,
		
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			the book. Oh, people of the book.
		
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			Don't go to extremes in your religion. Both
		
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			of these positions are
		
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			are viewed as extremes with respect to Isa
		
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			alaihis salam.
		
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			That you have one side
		
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			that believes that he was a false prophet,
		
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			a false messianic
		
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			claimant, and that's all he was. And then
		
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			he was executed, tortured, and executed by the
		
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			Roman authorities
		
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			at the be at the,
		
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			request of the Jewish authorities,
		
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			religious authorities.
		
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			And then the other side was saying that
		
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			he was a divine incarnation, that he is
		
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			Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.
		
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			So the so Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala reveals
		
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			to the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam
		
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			these verses that are correctives with respect to
		
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			Christian theology.
		
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			It's interesting if you talk to Christians on
		
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			the ground, people who go to church,
		
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			many of them, maybe the majority of them,
		
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			don't read the New Testament.
		
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			I read an article,
		
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			in a Christian magazine called The Greatest Book
		
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			Never Read, and it was about the Bible.
		
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			And the the the author of the article
		
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			was a Christian and he said that he
		
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			went to churches at random
		
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			and he would ask parishioners coming out of
		
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			the church to name the 4 gospels in
		
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			the New Testament. And he said 50% of
		
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			people that he asked could not name the
		
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			4 gospels,
		
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			in the New Testament.
		
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			So a lot of these people, they're going
		
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			to church for cultural reasons, for social reasons.
		
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			And it's interesting also
		
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			that you'll get a myriad of opinions
		
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			when it comes to things like,
		
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			trinity or divine incarnation.
		
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			Ask the Christian. Explain the trinity. What is
		
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			the trinity? You'll get a myriad of explanations,
		
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			the vast majority of which are not,
		
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			in accordance with the findings of these ecumenical
		
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			church councils that were held
		
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			in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and
		
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			8th centuries.
		
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			The first seven of the ecumenical councils. Of
		
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			course, the most,
		
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			famous of these is the 1st ecumenical church
		
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			council held
		
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			at Nicaea in 325
		
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			of the Common Era, presided over by Constantine,
		
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			the first Christian
		
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			emperor. And it was here at Nicaea
		
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			that they decided the bishops decided by vote,
		
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			the proto orthodox bishops,
		
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			by vote that
		
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			Isa alaihi salam
		
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			is
		
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			essentially
		
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			the same,
		
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			as
		
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			Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala. The term for that
		
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			is
		
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			hamausios,
		
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			which means same essence or co substantial.
		
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			This term, hamausios, is not even found in
		
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			any New Testament
		
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			book.
		
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			What we find, however, in the New Testament,
		
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			especially in the first three gospels,
		
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			is the humanity of Isa Alaihi Salam.
		
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			Right? A rabbi, comes to Isa alaihis salam
		
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			in Mark chapter 10 verse 18. He says,
		
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			good master,
		
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			what must I do to gain eternal life?
		
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			And Isa, alayhis salam's response to him is,
		
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			why are you calling me good? No one
		
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			is good but 1, and that is God.
		
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			So Isa, alayhis salam, according to the gospel
		
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			of Mark, which is the earliest of these
		
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			4 gospels, and there's problems with all 4
		
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			of these gospels.
		
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			There's no doubt about that.
		
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			There are some,
		
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			ulama who take the position that the text
		
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			might be sound, but that the tahrif is
		
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			in the in in the Mana or in
		
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			the exegetical
		
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			Christian tradition, that's a minority opinion.
		
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			But in this earliest gospel,
		
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			we have Isa alaihis salaam denying even being
		
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			good from his Tawadur,
		
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			denying
		
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			even being good, let alone
		
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			being God.
		
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			And then you get to the gospel of
		
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			John, and this is really the gospel that
		
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			Christians will use to to
		
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			prove that Isa, alaihis salam, claimed to be
		
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			God. But nowhere in these
		
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			in in the gospel of John, nowhere in
		
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			any gospel does Jesus say in a clear
		
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			unambiguous statement that he's God or worship me.
		
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			Now there are certain things that Christians will
		
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			point to
		
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			that amount to divine claims,
		
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			But the gospel of John interestingly was written
		
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			probably 90 or a 100 of the common
		
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			era.
		
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			Matthew, Mark, and Luke are before John. So
		
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			in John, you have all of these divine
		
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			claims that are missing in Matthew, Mark, and
		
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			Luke. So if those divine claims are historical,
		
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			why didn't it why didn't John's predecessors actually
		
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			record them? It doesn't make any sense. You
		
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			would think that if Jesus is going around
		
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			claiming to be God like He does in
		
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			John apparently,
		
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			I am the way, the truth, and the
		
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			life. Before Abraham was, I am.
		
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			In the beginning was the word. The word
		
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			was with God. The word was God. Although,
		
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			that's the prologue says, whoever wrote this gospel.
		
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			If if Jesus is making those those previous
		
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			statements, why isn't Matthew, Mark, and Luke
		
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			recording these? You would think that they're quite
		
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			important.
		
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			So logic tells us that he never made
		
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			these statements. He never claimed to be God.
		
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			Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala tells us in the
		
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			at the end of Surah Al Maida in
		
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			the Quran.
		
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			Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala tells us
		
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			that Allah
		
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			will ask
		
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			Isa on the Yomul Qiyama according to the
		
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			commentators.
		
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			Did you ever say to the people,
		
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			take me as a god or my mother
		
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			as a god or a divinity?
		
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			Right? An ila, someone who has
		
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			divine characteristics
		
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			or divine attributes,
		
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			in in in derogation
		
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			or in addition to Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.
		
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			And, of course,
		
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			for Christians at least in the Orthodox truth,
		
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			quote, unquote, Orthodox tradition or Trinitarian
		
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			understanding,
		
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			Isal Islam, as we said, is a divine
		
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			incarnation.
		
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			He is the, the incarnated son of God
		
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			who has pre eternality,
		
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			who who shares an essence with the father.
		
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			Right?
		
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			So did you ever say to humanity, take
		
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			me or my mother?
		
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			Right? In the Catholic tradition, Maryam alaihi salam,
		
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			it's called Theatakas,
		
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			which some have translated as the mother of
		
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			God or the carrier of God.
		
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			And her status keeps rising.
		
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			In the Catholic church, the Pope made ex
		
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			cathedra pronouncements. In other words, infallible pronouncements
		
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			that Mary was born from an immaculate conception
		
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			and that she was assumed into heaven
		
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			and that Catholics, they they pray to her
		
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			image, they kneel before her statues.
		
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			So they're assigning to her what seems like
		
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			to be divine characteristics. They don't outright worship
		
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			her.
		
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			They don't do that.
		
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			But they're giving her,
		
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			they're they're treating her as if she has
		
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			divine qualities.
		
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			And Allahu Alam, maybe sometime in the future,
		
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			there's going to be outright worship of Maryam
		
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			alaihis salam. Of course, the protestants have been
		
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			charging the Catholics with Mary olive tree, which
		
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			means the worship of Mary
		
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			for 100 and 100 of years.
		
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			So Allah
		
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			is asking, Isa, alayhi, salam. And according to
		
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			our exigence, he's asking, Isa, alayhi, salam, in
		
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			front of the whole of humanity, did you
		
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			ever say you are a god or your
		
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			mother is a god or a divinity or
		
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			have or have divine qualities of some sort?
		
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			In addition or in derogation to Allah
		
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			The response of Isa, alayhis salam is interesting.
		
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			Allah,
		
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			glory be to you.
		
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			Subhanaka, glory be to you, he says,
		
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			It is never for me to say
		
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			what is not my right.
		
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			If I had said that,
		
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			you would have known that.
		
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			You know what is in myself, but I
		
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			don't know what is in yourself.
		
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			You are the knower of all things. You
		
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			are the knower of the unseen, things that
		
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			are hidden.
		
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			I never said to them anything except what
		
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			you commanded me to say. And what was
		
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			that?
		
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			To worship Allah,
		
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			my
		
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			lord and your lord. This is the central
		
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			message of Isa, alayhis salaam.
		
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			And, in fact, this is basically what he
		
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			says in the gospel of John.
		
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			John 17:3,
		
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			the high priestly prayer. He's talking to the
		
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			father. And when you read the father, you
		
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			should put that in context, in his Jewish
		
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			context.
		
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			You see, in the old testament, the book
		
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			of Isaiah,
		
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			Isaiah prays,
		
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			you are the Lord our father. What does
		
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			that mean? That means rub. Ab means rub.
		
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			This is a term of endearment. It's totally
		
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			majaz. It's figurative.
		
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			Jesus teaches the disciples to pray, our father
		
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			who art in heaven, Avun Dovash mayo in
		
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			Aramaic. Our father, all of us. He's the
		
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			Reb of all of us. That's the meaning
		
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			in its context.
		
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			You see? So he's speaking to the father,
		
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			the Reb. And he says, this is eternal
		
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			life. John 17:3,
		
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			to know you
		
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			to know you, the only true God. Who
		
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			is the only true God? The Rabb,
		
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			the father.
		
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			And to know Jesus Christ, the one you
		
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			have sent. This is eternal life.
		
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			To know
		
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			to know Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala as the
		
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			only true God and to know Isa alaihsalam
		
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			as one who is sent from Allah Subhanahu
		
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			Wa Ta'ala.
		
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			La ilaha illallah,
		
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			Isa Rasulallah.
		
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			This is the kalimatayn
		
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			of the Christian Ummah.
		
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			Right?
		
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			So
		
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			this obviously requires a lot of scholarship. It
		
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			requires a lot of
		
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			sophisticated
		
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			delving into text, into languages.
		
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			Inshallah,
		
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			we'll continue,
		
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			looking at these things,
		
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			looking at the ocean, the Bahar. Imam Ghazali
		
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			calls the Quran
		
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			a just a Bahar of wisdom.
		
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			And there are different verses in the Quran
		
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			that he classifies
		
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			as jewels and rubies
		
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			and and and pearls.
		
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			In InshaAllah Ta'ala,
		
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			we'll continue to look at these ayaat
		
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			and look at the theological and Christological
		
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			significance of these ayaat and explain them in
		
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			a way
		
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			in which Muslims, even the youth, can explain
		
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			these things
		
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			to their Christian friends or Jewish friends or
		
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			their friends in humanity
		
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			to accurately,
		
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			explain the message of the Quran.