Ali Ataie – Jesus (PBUH) The Perfect Prelude to the Final Messenger
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The speakers discuss the history and context of the Bible, including the importance of Isa Alaihi's teachings and the concept of a holy spirit. They also touch upon the concept of definition and the importance of avoiding offense during prayer. The discussion turns into a discussion of the church's dispensation and Christmas merry Christmas holiday. The discussion also touches on the historical context of the third prophecy and the upcoming Christmas merry Christmas holiday.
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Interesting. We're gathered here
on Christmas Eve,
talking about it, Isa, alayhis salaam. You know,
when the prophet
when he entered into Madi al Munawara,
he noticed that the Jews were fasting
on Yom Yashurah.
And he asked them why they were doing
that, and they told him that this is
to commemorate
our master Musa, alaihis salaam,
the prophet moo Moses, peace be upon him,
that Allah
saved the many astahuilahila from the saraham, the
prophet sallallahuilaihi Salam.
He said we have a greater right upon
Musa alaihi sallam.
We as in Umma, the Ummah of the
prophet sallallahu alaihi sallam
have a greater right over
Musa Alaihi Salam. So he also fasted Anumia
Ashura, but also to differentiate
his ummah from many Islayel, also the fast
before after, the sunnah fast.
And I would say also that
and I think
and I'm not a scholar, but all all
scholars would agree with me that
that we have a greater right to Isa,
alaihis salaam,
as well.
As Christians are gathering tonight in various churches
around the world and the next day,
worshiping
Isa, alaihis salaam,
as God.
Right?
What does the Quran say? It's very interesting.
How ironic the first words of Isa Alaihi
Salam in the Quran
on the day of his Moed.
Right?
So we're told,
So we're told that Mariam, alayhis salaam, she
brought the newborn,
Risa alayhis salaam, within the side of her
family.
And then her family says, oh, Maria, this
is a strange thing that you have.
A strange thing that has happened or that
you've brought.
Right? So they're, you know, insinuating something,
about her. You know?
You can imagine if, you know, if you
have a,
if you know a woman who's
saintly in your eyes,
never done anything wrong, and she says to
you, I heard voices and I was impregnated
miraculously and I'm holding a baby,
it would be very, very difficult for you
to believe her.
Right?
So something has to happen here. Something out
of the ordinary.
Right?
What we call,
Khawari kulahadat,
breaks of natural law or breaches of
of physics,
as we know physics.
So for Asharra to Elaine so this, so
for Asharra to Elaine, she pointed to
the baby.
How can we talk the to talk to
someone who is a child in the cradle,
a newborn infant?
And we're told in the Quran
that miraculously,
this is a Marjizah,
that in Isa Alaihi Salam, he spoke
So Isa Alaihi Salam, he says, indeed, I
am the servant of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.
He has he has given me revelation and
has made me a prophet
and has made me blessed where so wherever
I am.
So these are the first words of Isa
Alaihi Salam,
according to the, Quran.
And we're told in the Quran
that Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala on the Yomul
Qayama,
he will ask Isa Alaihi Salam in front
of the whole of humanity.
So, oh, Jesus, the son of Mary,
did you ever say to the people,
to take you as a divine being or
your mother as a divine being.
Right? Other than Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
and the immediate risk. And, of course,
knows the knows the answer to the question.
Right?
This is to establish,
so Imam Suitesi, he says this is out
of Tobiks, out of censuring the
Nasara.
Right? Not his Ummah, because the Christians are
not the Ummah
of Isa Alaihi Salam. He is in our
Ummah.
Right? Isa Alaihi Salam is a companion of
the prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Salam. So he
is a Sahabi by definition.
Right? What is a Sahabi?
So it's a hobby is someone who the
prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam
laid his blessed eyes on this person because
they were blind sallam.
Right? While they were both alive, so
you might have a dream in which you
see the prophet
and he's looking at you.
Right?
And that's a true dream
because shaitan cannot imitate,
the prophet
but this is during his life.
Right?
His life in the dunya. He has a
different life now. It's called Hayat Baruzakhiyah.
So he's alive in a different sense.
Right?
And then,
this person whom the prophet
looked at
or gazed upon,
believed in him at that moment.
So we know that Isa, alaihis salaam,
did not die.
Right? This is a major point of contention
we have with Christians.
But the Quran states it as a matter
of fact. The Quran we believe the Quran
the author of the Quran is Allah subhanahu
wa ta'ala who has direct access to history.
And And he's simply telling us that this
did not happen.
Something something happened.
Right? And we have ilema that,
theorize
what could have happened. There's nothing definitive from
the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasalam.
Something happened. It was made to appear so
that Isa alaihi salam was crucified.
But he was not killed or crucified.
Well, it could show you the Allama. Right?
But it was made to appear so unto
them.
So Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala So he he
is a Sahabi in our home, Isa Alaihi
Salam. Right? And we believe in the second
coming of Isa Alaihi Salam. This is something
that is stated in multiple hadith,
over 2025
Sahaba relate this. So the response of Isa
Alaihi Salam on the
his initial response is, suhanak.
Right?
Which is to say, glory be to thee.
And Imam Al Haddad, he mentions and others
mention, Imam Al Razi mentions that.
Just the question itself,
was is very difficult is going to be
very difficult for East Side, Islam, to even
process even here. So he's going to start
sort of writhing and shaking.
So he says,
So he says, glory be to you. It
was never for me to say anything
That you did not command me. I only
said what you commanded me to say.
Right? And you are the the knower of
everything that is unseen.
I only said to them what you commanded
me to say.
Worship Allah
He He is my Lord and your Lord.
Amen.
So
the theology of Isa alayhis salaam
is,
is
renewed in a sense by the prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alaihi wasallam.
He,
he revived
the true teachings
of the prophet, Isa Alaihi Salam.
Right? And the prophet,
he is a universal messenger. So Isa alaihi
wasalam, we have to also understand this contextually,
he's dealing with a certain mentality at his
time.
Right? So some of his teachings,
are not universal,
in some aspects.
Right?
So I remember
because it was
maybe 20 years ago, me and Abdul Rashid
here city of the Rashid.
This was after 911. Right? So there was
a lot of sort of interest in Islam,
and so,
and so, we would literally drive around and
go to churches.
Right? Just knock on the door.
And sometimes they let us in some
I mean, we look like we're friendly guys.
Right? Let us in the door and,
we talk to the pastor
and we get different responses, but I remember
this one pastor, I don't know if you
remember, Fremont Community Church. He's he looked at
us and we sort of said, we want
to have a dialogue with you on the
status of a Islam and just, you know,
sort of teach your congregation about Islam.
And he said, yeah. Well,
you know you know what the word pastor
means?
And I said, yeah. It means a shepherd.
Isn't that very good?
It does mean shepherd. So I'm a shepherd
and I have to protect my flock from
the wolves.
Yeah, at least you're honest.
I don't know so long. But, so But,
so I remember one night I was watching
TV and there was this,
story
and it said that so there was this
Iranian Christian pastor, apparently an apostate from Islam,
who was going to give a
he's gonna give a lecture at a church
the next day on Sunday.
And the sermon was called, Why I'm Not
a Muslim. Maybe I told this story before
because you've heard it. It's okay.
I could ask my wife. I repeat a
lot of things.
It's okay.
So anyway, why I'm not a Muslim? So
I was, oh, that's interesting.
So,
I called his brother here, and we said,
let's let's let's go to this.
Let's go to the sermon that he's going
to get. He said, okay. And there was
maybe, like, 5 or 6 of us actually.
I think Abdul was there. A few of
the brothers were there.
So we go to this church, and then
we walked in and the pastor I'm not
gonna say his name because,
anyway,
it's a different issue. But anyway, he was
he was there and I remember he looked
up at us and he was it
was
his face went blank.
What are these guys doing here?
So you could tell they kind of, you
know,
kind of changed things up on the fly
a little bit. You know, kinda did some
quick edits. Right?
He was very uncomfortable. He was sweating through
his suit,
but we were there for smiling. And so
anyway, I said to him after I said,
do you wanna do, like, a debate?
I think it'd be interesting because you're, you
know, a former Muslim
and, you know, I'm Muslim.
And, maybe we can have, like, a debate
and let people know what happened and let
people judge. You know, the Quran tells us
to engage in.
Right?
To engage in debate with
with
with, with,
with Hikma, with wisdom, which you say means
here, with academic rigor, sophistication.
And and with beautiful exhortation or preaching where
they say you're with good character.
Right? This is the sunnah way of making
dua.
Right? Is to have a good,
logos as Aristotle would say, good logic. Right?
To have to be intelligent,
to use reason, but also good ethos or
ethos,
which means to have good character.
So so he said,
yeah. Let's let's discuss that.
So okay. So we I I didn't think
I'd ever hear from again. I mean, I
hear this all the time. But lo and
behold, you know, he called me and he
said, let's meet at this restaurant that we
can talk about the debate and the parameters
and whatnot.
I said, great.
So we go there and,
so I'll never forget. He he looked at
me, you know, this Christian pastor, former Muslim,
apparently, and he said
and he started speaking Farsi to me to,
you know, to get on my even though
I don't speak Farsi very well.
But he said,
did Adi John?
First and foremost,
I'm a businessman.
Okay.
He said, we can make
a lot of money doing this. Oh,
alright. I I guess,
I'm sitting there. I'm I'm clueless. Right? And
he's like, I'm not hip to the game,
apparently.
I'm uninitiated.
And he said and I said, so he
said, what topics do we think about? I
give all these. Oh, slow it off. Slow
it off. We Do this topic this day.
You'll say this. I'll say this. We'll go
back and forth. We won't reveal too much.
And then the sec second debate, you know,
will get more people. We'll charge prices,
this and that.
So, oh, okay. And then he kind of
looked at me and he said, you know,
sometimes they still recite the Quran.
So,
okay. And then suddenly it clicked in my
mind.
I said to him,
are you Muslim?
And then he went like this.
I said, so how?
Wow.
He said, this is a very good job,
is Mason. He said, I and he had,
like, a a Humber outside.
You know,
and he lives in, like, Ruby Hills or
something like that,
wearing a Armani suit.
You know, the prosperity gospel. This is a
very common,
version perversion, I should say, of the message
of Isa, alayhis salam, even as it exists
in the New Testament.
This idea
and people you know, Christians in this country,
this has happened this is really an American
phenomenon.
They fill up baseball, basketball stadium, the Staples
Center is filled up on Sunday listening to
the prosperity gospel. This idea that,
if how do you know God loves you?
He gives you money. That's basically what it
comes down to. The more money you have,
the more God loves you.
Right? It's very interesting.
You know? Because you if you read the
New Testament,
what does esad eslam say in the New
Testament?
Of course, there's no senate for these things.
Right? So this is just sort of. They're
basically
very, very weak hadith.
Many of them are Mulduar.
But just for the sake of argument,
you know, because this is their hudja. This
is this is a text that they believe
is sound. You know, the Isa, alaihis salam,
says it's easier for a camel to pass
through the eye of a needle than for
a rich man to enter paradise.
Right?
And some of the economists say, this
you know,
the needle mean there was, like, you know,
cities were gated and the and the there
was a little door called the needle and
you have to push the camel from the
this is a this is much later. So
Aquinas mentions this, and he attributes it to
Ambrose from the 11th century.
This is very late sort of interpretation.
But if you look at earlier, like Jewish,
like the Talmud, things like that, much closer
to Esau like Esau, Esau, they they always
use this expression.
Sometimes an elephant to a needle, a a
donkey to a needle,
a camel to a so this is very
literal. This is what he means quite literally.
It's easier for a camel to pass through
the eye of a needle than for a
rich man to enter paradise. It's impossible for
a rich man to enter paradise.
And interestingly enough, the analogy or the parable
is in the Quran.
Right? Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says,
Those who belied are signs and are arrogant
towards them. These the heavens will not be
opened for them nor they enter paradise into
the camel capacity eye of a needle.
Right? So what does this mean? I mean,
it means
and we take it literally. It has two
meanings that a rich man has to give
everything away before he dies or else he's
in trouble according to the teachings of
Isa, alaihis salami. Or it could mean that
the rich man cannot let even 1 dinar
into his heart.
That if he were to lose everything,
it would make no difference to him because
everything belongs to Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.
And this is the essence of the teaching
of Isa alaihi wa sallam.
This is something that the Christians just they
got some things right, but the major things
they got wrong. And Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala,
he tells us. In the Quran, he says
about the Nasara is we made a covenant
with them, but they disregarded a portion of
what we gave to
them. This is the true essence.
Right? And the prophets of the body said,
who is who is sunnah is more universal.
Right? He said
There's nothing wrong with the rich man
as long as he has taqwa of Allah
in his heart.
But then he
fitna or fitna to Umati and my.
Right? He said every Ummah has a fitna,
has a trial or tribulation.
And the tribulation of my Ummah is wealth.
Right?
That wealth prevents one
from the dhikr of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.
Once starts to think of himself as independent,
mustaqhanim.
Right? Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala is al Ghani.
Everything belongs to Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala is
completely independent.
This is a teaching of Isa Alaihi Salam.
In our tradition, we have hadith of Isa
Alaihi Salam in our tradition. Some of them
are strong, some of them are weak, but
they're in our tradition. They're not in the
New Testament. Some of them have parallels in
the New Testament.
Right? Like what I was mentioning earlier about
on the Yom Kippur Yamah, there's something similar
to this in the gospel of Matthew.
Matthew chapter 7,
and we don't wanna get too much into
the sort of source criticism of the New
Testament,
but many scholars believe that this
this section in the New Testament actually
comes from a much earlier source that predates
Paul
because much of the gospels in the New
Testament, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John,
have been sort of
inspired or or I should say,
they've been sort of,
tainted with Pauline theology
because Paul was the first writer of the
New Testament. Gospels came about 20, 30, 40
years later.
But in this section in Matthew 7, it
comes from an independent source that Matthew had
access to that's probably pre Pauline. But, anyway,
scholars call it special m or Methian material.
But, anyway, Jesus says according to this, Matthew
chapter 7 verse 21, he says, not everyone
who says to be
which means rabbi rabbi.
Right?
And Christians, they translate this as Lord Lord,
capital l.
Right? Kuriye. What no. Rabbi means rabbi.
Right? Rabbi. You ever thought about that? That's
what it is.
So when when a when a Jewish guy
says to his rabbi, rabbi, is he calling
him God? Of course not. They're completely ignoring
the context. So the Greek it's in Greek
though. Kurier.
Rabbi rabbi. Not everyone who says to be
rabbi rabbi should enter the kingdom of heaven,
Only those who do the will of God.
On that day, many will come to me
and say,
master, master, did we not prophesize in your
name, cast out demons in your name?
And in your name perform many miracles.
Right?
This is Matthew 7 chapter 21 to 23.
So who is a Isa, according
to the source, which is very close to
his life? Again, it's very, very weak.
It's in the wrong language,
but it's pre Pauline and that's very important.
If you know of anyone new testament studies,
that's very, very important.
Who is he talking to? Is he talking
to
who? Is he is he talking to Jews?
Is he talking to Christians?
Is he talking to Hindus?
So he's talking to it looks like Jews
that kind of
did things in his name, kind of deified
him. Right?
Who does these things in the name of
Jesus, in the name of Jesus?
You know,
exorcisms in the name of Jesus. So he's
clearly talking about
Christians whether they're Jews or Gentiles, he's talking
to Christians.
What is his response?
Right. So in the Quran,
his response
is, Subhanak,
glory be to you. And then he says
to Allah
according to the Quran, in,
Quran, in, into If you punish them, they're
your slaves.
But if you forgive them
and you are the great and wise, now
a prophet would never ask something from Allah
Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala. That is impossible
because that is bad adab.
Musa Alaihi Salam
what is He
said to, Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala,
reveal yourself to me so that I may
gaze upon you.
You will not see me. And Imam Suhiti
says that Allah did not say,
I cannot be seen. He said, you will
not see
me. Right? So there's a possibility. It's mumkin
that in the Quran says this in in
different ayat, we will see Allah Subhanahu Wa
Ta'ala.
On the Yomukiyamah and in Jannah, the people
of Jannah. We'll see Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala
with any without any type of modality.
There's no how to it.
Right? There's an utter mystery. It's called the
beatific vision.
So here in
in in essence, Isa alaihi salaam in the
Quran is making
dua to Allah
that if people considered me to be some
sort of divine being, but they did it
out of ignorance,
they were misinformed.
If you forgive them,
right? Making dua for people.
And this is part of our theology,
Right? And this is orthodox normative
Sunni theology. This is not
Berkeley theology.
Surfer theology.
Is that if
Imam Ghazali says, Imam Ghazali,
the champion of orthodoxy,
the Mujaddid of his time recognized
the world over.
You know, he says, if someone is not
aqal or baleh, he doesn't have salamatul khawas
or balagatul atawatul sahihah. There's no talif to
establish on person. In other words, Allah subhanahu
wa ta'ala will not put someone into *
who did not who was not reached with
a sound prophetic summons.
Right? The message of Tawhid in a good
form must have reached this person and this
person
understanding that message rejected it.
Like for example, Abu Jahan, right?
Some people say, Oh, Abu Jahan,
he was also a very gifted poet.
Incredible poet. Why didn't he become Muslim?
He doesn't he doesn't recognize
these the Quran is a sui generis. It's
a one of a kind literary masterpiece. Of
course, he does. It's because the Quran is
calling to a certain way of life.
Right? It's calling to a certain morality,
a certain sort of theology.
This is difficult for people.
Right?
So anyway,
in the bible, in Matthew going back to
Matthew 7, what is the response of Esai
desenam?
In the Greek, he says
he says,
he says,
he says,
He says, the Greek is very, very strong.
It's very difficult to translate.
But basically, he says,
never did I know you.
And then he says,
like this. Like, get away from me.
And then he says,
he says,
you workers,
Very interesting wording.
Right?
So usually this is translated as you workers
of inequity.
Get away from me, you workers of iniquity.
But the actual Greek says, andnomion,
a nomos,
You rejecters of sharia.
Because nomos what does nomos mean? Nomos means
law in Greek. Nomos, right? Like an antinomian,
Nomos.
Right? Like an antinomian.
Pauline Christianity
is antinomian.
They reject the Sharia except for a few
of the commandments.
So I say Christians are eating pork.
Right? They're eating it like it's water.
You
know? Why eating pork? Leviticus says don't eat
pork.
So no. No.
There's a new there's a new covenant.
The new covenant, the blood covenant, New Testament.
So what about Esau? Did he ever eat
pork?
No. Oh, good. Strange.
Are you followers of Esau, or who who
are you following?
Who's your real
lord?
That's what it is. It's Paul. Yeah. Pauline
Christianity.
Right? Which is very, very interesting.
So, you know, the the Torah in the
Quran says,
quoting Isa alayhis salaam, Musaddi kalimabayna yadayimina Torah.
I confirm the Torah,
but then he says, I also
make certain things halal that were haram,
quoting his salayahu alayhi salaam. In other words
and that's the affair of the Rasul. He's
a Rasul.
He can make amendments and addendums to the
Sharia Musa alayhi salaam because he has the
Maqam of Rasool.
Right? So certain things he did make adjustments.
So
so basically, Isa Alaihi Salam is confirming theology.
Theology never
changes. Theology is never open to nask or
abrogation.
Aqidah never changes. Our Aqidah is exactly the
Aqidah of Adam alaihi wa sallam.
Nothing changes in Aqidah because Allah subhanahu wa
ta'ala is immutable.
But
Sharia can change
according to the circumstances.
But major principles of the sharia, like maqasid
and things like that, those things don't change,
but the fundamentals of the sharia.
Right? So in the Torah, it says,
Numbers 23/19,
which means god
is not
a man
that he should lie.
Right? And at the college, I have my
students memorize this verse in Hebrew.
It's not that
long. God is not a man that he
should lie.
Do you have it? Go ahead. Did Did
I have you get the number right?
Maybe not.
Maybe I skipped a couple.
God is not a man. So what does
this mean? God is not a man that
he should lie. It's a very strange and
again, this a lot of these translations are
very cryptic and it's hard to know what's
happening here. And the Quran actually says this.
The Quran says that there's a section from
the people of the book.
They twist their it literally says they twist
their tongues around the book.
Right? Twist their tongues around the book. What
does that mean?
Means the literal physical tongue. But in Koranic
Arabic, it's also the word for language.
Lisan means language in the Quran.
The Quran doesn't use the word loha.
Loha is probably from Greek and
logos. Right? It's a loan word from Greek
probably.
Lisad is the semitic word, and it means
language. In other words, they're messing with translations.
Right? The people in the book, they mess
around these translations.
So what does this word what does this
verse mean? It means
whoever claims to be God is a liar.
That's what it means. It's very clear.
Whoever claims to be God is a liar.
Right? What else does the old testament so
called old testament in Torah teach?
It says every man shall be put to
death for his own sin.
This is Deuteronomy 2417
and other places as well. Ezekiel chapter 18,
the entire chapter,
a very sustained argument
against inheriting sin.
Nobody inherits your sin. You might inherit the
circumstances of your parents' sin, the circumstances, but
not the sin itself.
You're free from that sin. For example, if
your father shoots someone,
and goes to prison and your mother can't
afford to take care of the kids and
has to move into a really small apartment
and while she's pregnant with you and then
you're born in the small apartment,
you've inherited the sins of your father, the
circumstances
of his sin, but not as literal sin.
You didn't commit murder. That's not on your
on your scroll on the Yom Kiyomah.
Right?
So this is a theology of the old
testament.
And in the gospel of Luke,
Jesus, peace be upon him, apparently says you
ever heard of the prodigal son parable?
You ever heard of that? The prodigal son.
The prodigal son returns. Right? Probably heard this
somewhere. This comes from Luke chapter, 15.
So what is this? So Jesus gives a
parable. He says there there's a man who
has 2 sons. 1 of them stays with
him, the other one goes out and he's
a musrif,
like he's a spendthrift and he's excessive and
he's a hedonist.
He's he wastes all his money and he
ends up sleeping a pigpen.
Right?
And then so eventually he says,
I need to go home and apologize to
my father.
So he starts walking back towards his home,
and the father is sitting with his good
son. They're just sitting and they're chatting, and
then suddenly he sees his prodigal son returning,
and he completely ignores
his good son,
and he sees his son from afar, and
they run towards each other, and they fall
on each other's necks as it says. That
means they're they're hugging and they're crying.
Right? And that's the end of the parable.
What is it? What is he teaching?
What is the of
this parable of this method
in the gospel of Luke? Is he teaching,
blood covenant
by vicarious atonement?
Did did the father slaughter his son when
he saw him suddenly? Oh, you're back. Slaughters
him.
This is for your sin.
No. What is he teaching? Is he teaching
Torah?
This is the entire moral, the ebra, the
lesson of this parable
is tawba.
And tawba is a very important theological virtue,
again, at the heart of the true Injil
of Isai Alaihi Salam.
So every man is put to death for
his own sin.
And then it also says whoever is hanged
on a tree is a cursed by God.
This is also in Deuteronomy. Whoever is hanged
on a tree what does hang on a
tree mean? Again, it's like,
you know,
what what what are they what are they
talking about? They're talking about crucifixion.
Right? Whoever is crucified
is accursed by God.
And And what else does it say? Leviticus
317, you shall not drink blood, an everlasting
statute throughout all your generations.
Right? Everlasting statute.
So there are certain things in Jewish law,
like I said, fundamental principles
or certain ceremonial laws that are never abrogated.
They're never open to nusk.
One of them is drinking blood.
Right? Because of the pagan practice.
Right?
So what do Christians believe in?
They believe God became a man,
right,
who died for your sins.
That's breach number 2.
How did he die? He's hanging on a
tree.
And how do they commemorate this event?
They drink his blood.
Right? And this is literal in the Catholic
church.
Literal, they believe.
You know, I don't know if they're gonna
do that. Usually, you have the Christmas mass
live from the Vatican.
It probably is gonna start in a few
hours.
Very strange, but
they believe that they have the wine, and
the Holy Spirit comes and magically transforms
the essence of the wine into the literal
blood of Jesus. Literal blood.
The accidents remain.
Right? It's the act it looks like wine,
smells like wine, tastes like wine. But the
essence has changed. The essence.
Right?
So you can see now
how the Quran
is
correct
in its Christology.
Right?
That that Isa Alaihi Salam these cannot be
the teachings of Isa Alaihi Salam. If as
a rabbi claimed to be God in the
1st century,
why would he
expect any Jew to believe his claim?
The Old Testament says,
whoever commits blasphemy has to be stoned.
And if you ask Christians,
why did the Jews of John chapter 8
pick up stones to
stone Jesus? Christians will say, he committed blasphemy.
He claimed to be God.
And then if you keep reading that section,
he says to the Jews that picked up
stones, you're children of Satan.
So let me get this straight then.
So Jesus who is was he also the
man in Israel at the time of Musa
alaihi salaam. Whoever claims to be God has
blasphemed and stoned them.
Then he becomes a man, and blasphemes. And
so the Jews are following what he had
told them
during the time Musa, alaihi salaam, and then
he calls them children of Satan.
And then he expects them to believe his
claim
and go against what he had already said.
There's he's setting them up for failure.
So the new testament Jesus,
the new testament Jesus near the Christmas bells.
The
new
I take that as an explanation to my
point.
The New Testament Jesus
cannot be a true prophet,
cannot be a true prophet.
Right?
Islam, the Quran, the prophets of the Lord
Almighty SAW Adam, redeem Isaiah alayhis salaam, give
us the true teachings of our master Esai,
alayhi sallam. Right? So this is this is
very important point to make. Right?
I'll I'll stop here, but let's maybe have
some questions and comments.
You wanna open it up, inshallah?
Questions burning questions you've always had. It could
be anything.
Like, you know, woah, what's a Mormon or
yes. Yes, sir. Brother Joseph, for sure.
We refer to, Matthew Martin Luther John,
And I'm going for the doctors that they
refer to the writings of Paul. He said,
read Paul in when you refer to,
some writing from Matthew, when you were working
on it. He explained the problem that was
a pre Paul. Yeah. Yeah. Very good question.
So when we look at Matthew and Luke's
gospel,
okay,
Matthew and Luke definitely have Mark in their
possession. They're using Mark as a primary source.
Okay? But Matthew and Luke if you can
just imagine this, Matthew and Luke are writing
after Mark.
Matthew and Luke also have material in common
that is missing from Mark.
Okay? And it's verbatim.
It's word for word the same,
which means Matthew and Luke have another document
in front of them
that Mark did not have access to, and
scholars believe the reason why Mark did not
have access to it is because it wasn't
around at the time of Mark, who was
writing around 70.
And this document, they call it the q
source document or the sayings gospel.
Historians, they call it the first gospel.
And this and so so and it's a
hypothetical source document, so they don't have an
actual manuscript of it, but you see how
they can reconstruct it.
In other words, whatever Matthew and Luke have
in common missing from Mark, that's from q,
and it's pre Pauline even, according to most
scholars.
It's it's written before 50
within 2 decades of Isa Alaihi Salaam.
So when you isolate the q source material,
just put it on the board, and you
read it, none of it disagrees with Islam.
This is amazing.
They can reconstruct q. Jesus is a prophet.
He's a healer.
He talks about John the Baptist.
There's teachings about the coming kingdom of God,
the coming son of man, the Baranash. Esai
Leisaitama is prophesying Someone's going to come called
the
the son of man with power on earth.
He's gonna bring the kingdom of God on
earth.
Right?
And nothing there and let me let me
quote John Dominic Crossan who is a is
one of the greatest of the historians of
the New Testament. He says there's nothing, nothing,
nothing.
It's a direct quote. There's nothing, nothing, nothing
about the crucifixion or resurrection in Cusebondi.
Nothing.
So whoever wrote this q source document,
they they they obviously were Christians,
you know, Christians,
Nazarenes,
Nasara, who believed in the Isadai Salam. If
they believed that Isadai Salam was crucified,
it was of 0 importance to them.
But what seems more logical is that
they didn't believe it was crucified.
Yes?
So, Isa alaihi salaam, he,
he was born
around 4 BCE, actually, according to most historians.
He was born in the north of Palestine,
and,
I'm sorry. He was he was born in
Judea in Bethlehem.
That's the dominant opinion. There's a hadith that
mentions this as well. The hadith is a
solitary hadith. So, but there's a hadith that
mentions that on the night of the Israel,
prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam,
he was on the buraq, and he dismounted
at certain locations.
And one of the places where he dismounted
was in Bethlehem
or Bethlehem,
which means a house of bread or house
of meat. It seems like maybe that's a
place where,
animals were raised or some bread was made,
something like that.
So he was born there,
and then he was raised in the north
in Galilee, in a city called Nazareth.
And Palestine at the time was under Roman
occupation.
Okay. And so the colony of of Rome,
and you have different groups of Jews in
that area. So So Josephus, the 1st century
historian,
he he
describes these Jews. So in the north, in
Galilee where Isa
was raised,
it was sort of the the stronghold of
the zealots.
The zealots were basically,
3 theocratic nationals
nationalists,
who, basically wanted to cleanse the holy land
of the pagan Roman occupiers.
So depending on your perspective, they're either terrorists
or they're freedom
fighters. Right? But,
they would commit excesses. So they would they
would kill Jews too that didn't believe,
you know. So they had these sort of
Khadija type,
tendencies.
Right? So this is where Isa alaihi salam
was was basically raised in this area.
And then you have Pharisees. The Pharisees are
sort of the
mikirullah of his time.
And so the learned doctors and lawyers of
the law.
And,
in the gospels, Isa alaihi salam was constantly
butting heads
with the Pharisees.
He he basically calls
them. Right? Like,
you're just sort of exotericists.
Right?
He says to them,
he says to them,
you overlook the weightier demands of the law,
justice, mercy, and good faith.
Right? He says, you strain at the gnat,
but you swallow the camel.
Right? He says, you're like whited sepulchres.
On the outside,
you're washed, but on the inside, you reek
of death.
In other words, he's calling them hypocrites. He's
saying, you don't practice what you preach. He's
saying your only word about the
the You don't work on the bottom. You
don't work on the inside.
Right? So the essence of the teaching that
we could draw
from this, and this is, you know, allahu
alayhis salam, this is what's the New Testament
says, but we have similar
attestation in our sources,
is that Isa alaihis salam is essentially teaching
them
to skil to nafs. This is the essence
of his teaching. The essence of the injil
is Tasawwuf.
That's what it is.
It's
establishing a relationship with Allah
by mastering the self, but following the Sharia.
Right? And even at his time, you do
have these pseudo Sufis, that
would reject the Sharia.
Right? And just sort of
do these weird things and expect to get
closer to Allah
Right?
But
true Sufism,
to use a different term, true Sufism, not
goofy Sufism, not goofy Sufis. True Sufis,
And Isa Alai Salam, even according to the
gospels, is a practicing rabbi.
Right?
So like Imam al Junaid
who is sheikh of Taifa, he's a sheikh
of the Sufis.
He said,
Our knowledge, this sacred knowledge that I'm teaching
is grounded and tied
to the book in sunnah.
This is the true Sufi.
Right?
So Risa alaihi sama's message, the inju. What
is inju? Inju means good news.
Right? That's what it means. Good news. Good
news of what?
And they give you so children
of Israel. And notice that Isa alaihi salam
says children of Israel. He didn't say, You
kommi because he's not that's not his home.
He is a Sahaba Sahabi in the ummah
of the prophet Muhammad, salallahu alayhi said.
I am the messenger of God sent you.
Confirming the Torah.
And they give you glad tidings, bushla, gospel
of a messenger to come after me. His
name is
Ahmad. And Ahmad, according to the Irinima, is
the name of the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi
wa sallam in the celestial realm.
Okay. So in the world it's called you
also Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam in the celestial
realm as well. But east side islam is
given this baby knowledge of the name of
the prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam, unlike the Yomot
Theiyama.
So this is his teaching. Right? In our
tradition,
Isa Alaihi Salam,
he is
he's teaching them the deception of this world,
not to be fooled by this world.
So he says, the similitude of this world
is like a man lost at sea.
Right? He's lost imagine someone who's lost at
sea on a boat and he says, he
starts taking handful after handful of seawater into
his mouth.
The more he drinks, the thirstier he gets
and then he dies from it.
Is the nature of the dunya.
He says, the nature of the dunya is
like an old haggard prostitute
who has to,
hide in
alleyways,
and she sticks her hand out and it's
bejeweled.
It's got rings and bracelets and so on
and so forth, and she waves men into
the alleyway.
And the men come and then she slaughters
them,
such as the dunya.
And
these are hadith in our in our tradition.
He says to his disciples,
he says,
so the disciples come to him and say,
how is it that you can walk on
water?
And he said, bring me 3 objects.
And they said what? He said, gold, stones,
and dirt.
And they bring these 3 objects, and he
says, put them here. And then he says,
how are you? And the disciples, what do
you say about these things?
And they said, the gold is better than
stones and stones are better than dirt. He
says, they're all the same to me.
If you can understand the secret of that,
you can walk on water. You can break
customary physics.
He was walking with his Hawarayun,
and he was like the prophet said, he
would actually walk behind the Sahaba. He said,
leave my back for the Malaika.
Right. So Isa said, he was walking behind
the how are you. They're walking sort of
in a barren like wasteland. And they notice
as the disciples, they stop and they're looking
at something,
and they start covering their their mouth like
this, their noses. It's
like this.
And they look and it's a decomposing carcass
of a dog.
Right?
And they say, how revolting. And then he
looks
at it and he says, ma'abiada
asnana.
And he walks away.
How white are its teeth?
What does that mean?
It means that Isa Alai Salam. He saw
the beauty. He managed to find something beautiful
even in this very, very ugly, nasty
rotting thing.
Like in our tradition, we don't have this
idea of him attacking the Pharisees and things
like that.
Right? Probably something like that
inevitably happened because he would engage in debates.
No doubt.
But in our tradition, we have the Pharisees
walking by him and they start saying something
about him. They start saying something something about
his his mother, Mariam alayhi salaam.
And then, he said, he looks at them
and he just says,
and how are you? And they say, why
didn't you defend yourself?
And he said, a vessel only overflows its
contents.
Right?
It's like, I don't even I because they
were insulting it. You can imagine what they
were saying.
So it's that's not a civil debate.
One of the people debate, but they're insulting
me. And I don't have that in me.
I can't even do that.
Right?
So this this is the essence of his
teaching.
And unfortunately, the essence of his teaching is
completely corrupted
for for the most part, I should say,
completely.
Is there is there sorry. I went on
too long. Yes, sir.
I attended
the show up prayers in
the effect of Christmas on Muslims.
The effects of Christmas on Muslims. Yes. And
the
entire speech was
about
isolating.
It was sort of us versus them.
Knowing the fact that the story from
the product that he talked about, that they
are,
some of our families are,
Yeah. Christian?
Yeah. It's a very it's a very, very
good question.
Very good. Part of the question, sorry,
is
about he mentioned that
every time during our prayer, we say,
the Christians. In general.
Yeah. So the Quran is speaking in terms
of generalities.
Right? So this is very important point that
Irulama mentioned as well. Like, the beginning of
the Quran divides humanity into 3 broad groups.
It's very broad.
Right? But, obviously, it's more nuanced than this.
The Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is giving
something that's general speaking in generalities.
So believers, it describes in a couple of
ayaat. Kufar, a couple of ayaat, because that's
easy. Then you have Munafiqo'in, which takes 13,
14, 15 iyad because it's a different type
of animal.
But, yeah, identity
is tricky.
Right?
So we wanna be Muslim, but we don't
want to,
we don't want to,
do anything that is
that is, against our Sharia,
something that is against our theology.
Right? People might be tempted. Well, you know,
it's just a tree. You know, it's
it's okay. The the majority of Christians
do not celebrate Christmas, by the way. I
don't know if people know that or not.
The majority of them don't celebrate Christmas. They
understand the origins of
Christmas as we know it, I should say.
Right?
You know, this idea of taking trees and
decking the halls and putting presents under the
tree. This is this is all paganism, and
this this is something that is
well established. In fact, in Jeremiah chapter 10
verse 2, it says, fallen out the way
of the heathen who brings a tree into
his house and decks it out in gold
and silver.
Because tree worship the word tree comes from
true because they believe that trees can connect
contain true spirits. So putting a gift under
the tree,
you know, bowing to the tree. Here's a
gift for you, tree.
So it's not my intention.
Yeah.
You're you're not intending to worship the tree.
But that's of little consequence
because we don't according to our sharia, we
don't imitate the kafar and their feasts and
holidays.
Right? It's it's a very important point.
And,
regardless of your attention,
because,
it's a slippery slope.
You open up that door,
you know,
next thing you know, you're marching in a
parade of some sort.
And a lot of Muslims are doing that.
Say, what's wrong with this? You know, they're
they're our allies and this and that.
You know, so,
he said, he's
the Christ. He's the Messiah.
But the prophet said, he also told us
of the one who is the opposite
of Isa alaihi salaam.
Right?
And Masih Ad Dijab,
The impostor messiah.
And the impostor had a very interesting hadith
of Bosei Salam.
He says,
he
said that
part of the fitna and he says the
worst fitna.
The worst of fitna in the history of
humanity
is a fitna of the anti currency, impostor
messiah.
And he said that it's so bad
that a Muslim who considers himself a firm
Muslim
out of curiosity, will go to the anti
Christ, the impostor messiah,
just to see what's happening.
And this anti messiah
will fill his head up with doubts,
with Shubu hat, he said.
Doubtful matters, theoretical matters. It's okay. You can
do this. You know your that's not your
intention. No. No. No. No. It's okay. It's
okay.
You do you're not you're come on. It's
okay. There's there's an opinion on this and
sometimes there's an opinion, sometimes there isn't.
That's why we have to have recourse to
the
Their their deen is vast.
Right? But there's parameters.
These are called.
Right?
Also is a word for definition.
The word for the the word for definition
in Arabic is called hat. And def define
also definis in Latin
means towards the end of something.
When you define something, you're limiting that something.
If I say to you, what's the definition
of the Quran?
It's
it's,
gins and fossil. Right? That's the definition. The
logical that's in the mother's day tune of
brotherhood.
I'm not too big on my logic, but
I'm kind of the logical book.
So it's
Jensen Fassel. It's genus and differentia.
So the logical definition of the Quran is
a scripture revealed to the prophet sallallahu alaihi
wa sallam.
Genus is different. The genus is scripture. That
is what makes it different revealed to the
prophet.
That's a definite that's called the had.
Right? But when we stretch out so the
deen is vast. There's Iftilaf and Iftilaf is
rahma, but then you have had you have
parameters.
What we don't want to do is move
the goalposts.
Right? It's called radical hermeneutics.
Right? And if you go I mentioned this.
If you go to right now, take an
intro to a slum class at any public
university,
most likely, you're going to be exposed to
radical hermeneutics.
Right?
You know, a circus reading of
the story of.
No. It doesn't mean that.
You know, it means something I'm gonna say.
It means something else. A a feminist reading
of Surat Maryam.
What is the lesson? It means that you
don't need a man.
Who needs men?
Be a strong independent woman. Ever heard of
strong independent? Strong independent.
As if men are strong and independent. Who
is strong and independent?
Who is who is Al Aqawi?
Who is a
Samad?
This is shirk.
You know? This this is satanic.
You know? You don't need no man. Just,
you know,
just,
you know, be
what was it called? Self partner.
What is, there's a new phenomenon going around.
It's called
sylogamine.
You heard of this? You're gonna hear about
it. Sylogamy means
women marrying themselves.
This is this is happening. It's becoming a
phenomenon. You're gonna hear about it the next
couple
years in general, maybe earlier.
Women marrying themselves. There's a woman in India.
She married herself.
And all these western liberals yay. So brave.
You know, these these liberals that we consider
our allies, some of us consider these are
our allies. We can march with them.
She's so brave. They interviewed her. Why did
you do this? She said, I always wanted
to be a bride, but I don't want
to be a wife.
Yeah. You know, Muslims no. No. It's okay.
You know, the Quran says,
don't enter the prayer while you're intoxicated, which
means you can drink. You just can't pray.
Intoxicate. What?
What kind of what are you talking about?
No. That's how I understand it. This is
what the Dajjal does.
Right? He he puts all of these doubtful
things that Shubu had in your mind to
the point where you're you sort of retreat
away from the religion itself, and it causes
apostasy.
And the Dajjal tells you that your
salvation is in the dunya.
Is it really is there an afterlife after
really? Well, I don't know. That's what prophet
said to him. He said, I'm gonna tell
you something about the Dajjal. No other prophet
told their Ummah.
He said,
he said that Dajjal is one eyed and
your lord is not one eyed. And the
Erdogan mentioned this is physical, he has one
eye, but also symbolical in the sense that
if you're one eyed
right? If I cover up my eye
so I mean, I'm already sitting here, but
if you took me to a place I'm
I'm not familiar with,
and I just covered my eye and I
opened my eye, I can't tell how far
people are away from me. I have no
depth perception.
Right?
That's why if you're a fighter
and one of your eye closes in a
fight, the referee has to stop the fight
because you can't see the punches coming. You
can't judge the distance of punches. You're gonna
get killed.
Alright?
So
so the teaching of the Dajjal is
whatever is right in front of you, that's
all there is.
That's it. What's what's right in front of
the dunya?
Who knows?
You know, Yolo,
hedonism.
What's right in front of you?
Right? They love the the
immediate gratification,
and they put off the ajida.
Right?
The truly intelligent one is the one who
subdues his lower self and works what comes
after death because death is eternal afterlife is
eternal,
everlasting.
But the unintelligent one is the one who
puts
his nuffs in service of his
and has vain hopes and all that's what
kind of what's happening.
Just,
I hope I'll go to Jannah, he says
as, you know,
he's smoking a joint,
drinking some vodka,
missing his prayers.
One of my teachers said, non praying Muslims
are low hanging fruit
for the Dajjal.
Easy.
Easy.
Child's play.
Right?
These are hadith of Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa
sallam.
We need to implement the prayer.
People who aren't praying, we should we have
to implement the prayer. This this is absolutely
essential.
Yes?
Yeah.
It's a very good question. Yes.
So in the in the gospel of John,
which is the last gospel, and there's a
lot of any
there's problems with the gospel of John historically.
But the subtext of the gospel
reveals something very interesting that's happening historically,
the subtext.
So
in John chapter 1, we're told that Jews
send messengers to John the Baptist, Yahya alaihi
salam, and they ask him, who are you?
And then it says, he did not
deny. He he did not
he,
he said, I am not the Christ. He
confessed, I am not the Christ. And then
they said, who then are you Elijah? So
according to Jewish belief,
the,
the second coming of the Messiah will be
preceded
alaihi salaam. It's called Eliyahu
in,
in in Hebrew.
And he said, no. And they said, are
you the prophet?
Are you the prophet, not a prophet?
Are you the prophet?
Right? And he says, no. So it's very
interesting that the Jews in the 1st century,
according to the subtext of this gospel,
we're expecting the fulfillment of 3 prophecies.
So the prophet is not the Messiah.
Okay? And if you have a cross reference
in your bible, the prophet is a reference
to a prophet, the prophet of Deuteronomy 1818,
the prophet like Moses. So god told Moses
in 1818 Deuteronomy, the 5th book of the
Torah. It says, a prophet I will raise
up from among their brethren
who shall be like you. A prophet will
be like Moses. I'll put my words into
his mouth and he shall say whatever I
command him.
Right?
So
so three distinct lines of prophecy.
The messiah
in the second coming of Elias
and the prophet.
Right? So for the Jews, they're over 3.
Right? For them, the messiah has not come.
By the way, the Jews right now I
don't know if you're familiar with that what's
happening in so called Israel, but the top
top rabbis in, in the world are saying
right now
that the Messiah has come.
He hasn't come out yet as it were,
but he's in secret talks
in council with top top rabbis.
So so I don't know if you're familiar
with, like, this is this is very, very,
important. This is very,
consequential.
This doesn't happen
very often.
But anyway,
so they're still waiting for the Messiah, and
then
Elijah hasn't come back,
and they don't have any candidates
for the prophet.
Right?
The Christians, what they do is they say,
Esau, based on him, is messiah. It's true.
John the Baptist is Elijah, sort of coming
in sort of the spirit and power of
Elijah. Oh, okay. But then they say the
messiah is also the prophet. So they conflate
the 2 prophecies.
But there's very clearly 3 distinct lines of
prophecy.
So
when the prophet said, he received the initial
revelation.
He went to Khadija Jukuburah, alaihi salaam,
And,
and her cousin was Warafa bin Nofa. Warafa
literally means scribe.
So he was a he was a Christian
scribe.
Whether he was a Trinitarian or Unitarian,
an historian, something like that. But he was
someone who was according to the Hadith,
it says that he used to write the
gospel
in in Aramaic,
upper Hebrew, and Arabic.
So
she said, look, you have this experience on
on the mountain of light. Right? Jabal Anur.
And she said, but I'm not a scholar.
I don't I can't interpret it for you.
Right? What had happened to you with with
Iqra and then the squeezing and things like
that.
The first five verses.
And then when he walked out of the
cave,
he started hearing
things greeting him.
So veils have been lifted.
So he looked and there's, like, a tree
and there's there's nothing there. Things are greeting
him.
Right?
So, she said I'm not an Adam, but
let's go to a scholar. Fasalu ariqthikri.
Right? In Kutum Lataraman, the Quran says ask
the people
who have specialties if you don't know. So
Nawatul Warah of Nafal, who is a scholar
of Ahl al Kitab,
and he said what did he say after
he heard the story?
So the great law of God has come
unto you just as it came to Moses.
In other words, it's very clear here that
in my opinion, that is saying that you
are the prophet of Deuteronomy 18 18.
Right? In Hebrew,
So he he he he's actually paraphrasing and
actually quoting
sort of
quoting some of the the verse actually.
So in in his,
it seems like he's paraphrasing
and partially quoting Deuteronomy 1818
to the prophet
that you are the prophet like unto Moses,
that God will put his words into his
mouth and he shall speak into them speak
unto them all that God shall command you.
The prophet never speaks from Hawa.
Everything he says is wahi, and he never
speaks from his hawa.
And he's taught by one mighty and power.
So that's one prophecy. 18/18 Deuteronomy, that's what
they were looking at. There's other things as
well, the coming of the son of man.
We mentioned the coming of the periclites. We
mentioned the gospel of John and oddly written
them up. They consider that to be strong.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this could be a
last question, inshallah. Just we're gonna we're gonna
eat, and we're hungry, and enough of me,
inshallah, just went over. Sorry about that. I
tend to
overtalk.
You're asking.
Yeah.
Is it okay if you like to merry
Christmas to people?
Is it okay to say Merry Christmas?
You know, it's a difficult one. Happy holidays.
It's a difficult issue.
So especially if there are non Muslim
people in your family.
So you'd have to ask a Mufti, but
for my limited understanding,
there's some dispensation with people who have non
there's some allowance, I should say,
with some people who have non Muslim family
members.
But generally, the Irguna say not to,
you know, somebody said to me the other
day, he said, Merry Christmas.
And I know I know this guy, and
he's kind of he wants to sort of,
you know,
wants to stick it to me a little
bit.
So he said, Merry Christmas. I was at
Pete I was sitting at Pete's Coffee, and
strange things happened to those coffee shops. So
I was saying there, I said, Merry Christmas,
and I said, happy Kwanzaa.
And he said,
I don't celebrate that long.
And he was a white guy.
So he's just, you know,
oh. Yeah. So,
aloha.
Thank you so much.
Alhamdulillah.
What have we learned?
I'll follow women in alleyways.