Ali Ataie – Islam has a Normative Definition

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The definition of Islam is based on feelings rather than religious principles, and it is stressed that emotions and people are now defining men and women. The speaker uses an analogy of a creature with a blowhole and a flat tail to explain the concept of faith and the importance of belief in the day of judgment. They criticize the idea of labels and the misunderstandings of traditional values, and discuss the misunderstandings of faith and the idea that everything is just a circle of light.

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			In our last session,
		
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			I mentioned that nowadays
		
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			in our quote unquote,
		
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			progressive culture,
		
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			things are no longer defined by sacred text
		
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			or by intellect,
		
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			but by our feelings.
		
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			The prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam said
		
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			He said that there will come a time
		
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			upon the people
		
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			when nothing will remain of Islam except
		
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			its name.
		
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			So this hadith indicates that there is a
		
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			quote unquote normative
		
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			definition of Islam.
		
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			You see those core principles and supports the
		
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			usul and the arkhan that made Islam Islam
		
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			will be removed from the religion
		
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			until all that remains will be a name
		
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			without a reality,
		
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			like a hollow plastic apple.
		
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			If I held a hollow plastic apple in
		
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			my hand and showed it to you from
		
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			a distance and asked you, what is this?
		
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			You would say, well, that's an apple, but
		
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			is it?
		
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			Certainly not.
		
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			But why not?
		
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			Because apple has
		
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			a precise definition.
		
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			A round fruit of a tree of the
		
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			rose family, which typically has
		
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			thin red or green skin and crisp flesh.
		
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			That's that's an apple. That's the definition.
		
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			If you ask me for an apple and
		
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			I give you an orange, you would be
		
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			confused.
		
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			Islam has a normative
		
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			definition.
		
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			Postmodern
		
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			liberals and critical theorists, they hate the word
		
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			normative.
		
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			They hate that word. They hate the word
		
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			normal.
		
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			There's nothing normative. There's nothing normal, they say,
		
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			And we as Muslims, we have to disagree
		
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			with this. Islam has a normative
		
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			definition.
		
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			This definition includes
		
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			certain theological,
		
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			legal, and moral nonnegotiables.
		
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			Okay. This definition includes certain theological,
		
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			legal, and moral
		
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			nonnegotiables.
		
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			These are.
		
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			These are obviously known, clearly delineated,
		
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			axiomatically
		
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			true, totally agreed upon.
		
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			Imagine someone who said, I'm a Muslim who
		
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			believes that it's okay to drink alcohol in
		
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			any situation.
		
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			See, that's not Islam. Imagine someone who said,
		
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			I'm a Muslim, but I believe it's okay
		
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			to be an open and practicing
		
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			homosexual.
		
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			That's not Islam. Imagine somebody who said, I'm
		
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			a Muslim, but I believe that Jesus is
		
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			God.
		
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			That's the worst. That's shirk. That's not Islam.
		
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			Imagine a Catholic who said,
		
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			I'm a Catholic, but I don't believe that
		
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			in the divinity of Jesus. I don't believe
		
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			in the trinity. I don't believe in the
		
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			papal authority and the magisterium.
		
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			Is that really a Catholic?
		
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			So this is why things have definitions.
		
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			Al had in Arabic, al had means definition,
		
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			literally meaning limit.
		
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			A definition delimits,
		
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			demarcates,
		
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			specifies
		
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			a thing.
		
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			If definitions become endlessly subjective,
		
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			then words can have no real meanings.
		
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			Okay. Imagine a country without borders.
		
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			If a land mass lacks borders
		
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			that demarcate
		
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			its territories, then it's, it's not a country.
		
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			If the definition of Islam is whatever I
		
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			want it to be
		
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			and whatever you want it to be and
		
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			whatever he wants it to be and whatever
		
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			she wants it to be, whatever she wants
		
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			it to be, one of these made up
		
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			non binary pronoun, then Islam has no
		
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			no longer has a definition.
		
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			It's just a name.
		
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			Nothing will remain of this religion
		
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			except its name.
		
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			You see, Shaitan, he wants to take the
		
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			immutables,
		
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			the tawabit,
		
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			these non negotiable
		
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			foundations.
		
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			He wants to take these things and he
		
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			wants to make them mutable.
		
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			Mutagayarat,
		
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			which is going to change the entire face,
		
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			the entire essence of the religion.
		
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			If we lose our tawabitch,
		
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			then we lose it all.
		
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			If we lose our foundations, the entire edifice
		
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			will collapse.
		
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			Feelings are now defining religion.
		
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			Feelings are now defining men and women.
		
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			We live in an age of feelings, as
		
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			we said in previous sessions. Imagine this is
		
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			just a quick
		
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			thought experiment.
		
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			Imagine that there's a talking sea creature
		
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			who claims to be a shark with a
		
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			blowhole, a beacon, a flat tail.
		
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			Okay. To you, it looks like a dolphin.
		
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			So you say to this creature,
		
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			you can't be a shark because a shark
		
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			has a definition.
		
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			It has certain
		
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			necessary
		
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			attributes that make up its essence. For example,
		
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			a shark must have gills,
		
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			but then this dolphin tells you, no, no,
		
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			no. I, but I feel,
		
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			I feel like a shark with a blowhole.
		
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			Now somebody might say to this
		
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			dolphin, oh, you're so brave.
		
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			More power to you. But that should not
		
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			be our response
		
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			because that's not real. We're not living in
		
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			reality.
		
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			The response should be no. So what? Your
		
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			feelings are irrelevant.
		
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			You are a dolphin.
		
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			Stop being
		
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			delusional.
		
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			Another challenge we have to deal with
		
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			is this insidious
		
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			revolt against tradition,
		
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			traditional religion, traditional values.
		
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			And young people in particular are led to
		
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			believe that faith in God is somehow antiquated
		
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			or old fashioned, even opposed to reason.
		
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			And that faith equates to quote belief without
		
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			evidence. That's how Richard Dawkins
		
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			defines
		
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			faith, belief without evidence.
		
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			Faith. They say faith is for simpletons.
		
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			They say intelligent people use their brains,
		
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			Right? What is especially disturbing about this phenomenon
		
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			is that Islam is often portrayed
		
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			as being the one major religion that is
		
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			most fundamentally
		
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			antithetical
		
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			to reason.
		
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			And this is simply erroneous.
		
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			As Muslims, we have traditionally adhered to
		
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			a three-dimensional
		
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			epistemological
		
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			approach.
		
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			That is to say, we can know that
		
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			things are true
		
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			based on 3 sources working in conjunction.
		
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			Okay. The senses, the intellect,
		
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			and revelation. Al Hawas, Al Aqal, Al Wahi.
		
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			Okay? And with respect to the latter 2
		
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			specifically,
		
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			the intellect and revelation, or we can say
		
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			Aqal and Naqal, Since both of these came
		
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			from the very same source,
		
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			they cannot really be in conflict.
		
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			Okay. It's like chemistry and physics.
		
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			These are two ways to explain the physical
		
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			world that do not contradict, cannot contradict,
		
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			but have different foci.
		
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			Right? So what I'm trying to say is
		
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			that revelation does not task us to embrace
		
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			the irrational,
		
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			I. E. The falsifiable.
		
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			Somebody might say, well, what about belief in
		
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			the day of judgment?
		
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			That is totally rational.
		
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			It's not irrational.
		
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			First of all, it's not falsifiable.
		
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			No one can tell you that they know
		
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			that there is no such day.
		
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			Okay? No one can tell you that. Okay?
		
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			Secondly,
		
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			injustice
		
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			in the earth
		
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			is what all people find morally repugnant. We
		
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			intuitively
		
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			hate injustice.
		
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			This is across time and culture.
		
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			Are we really to think that murderers and
		
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			rapists and genocidal maniacs who are never brought
		
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			to justice
		
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			in this world, they just get away with
		
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			it? So this is related to the moral
		
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			argument for God.
		
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			The intuitive
		
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			human desire for justice is a function
		
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			of our theomorphic
		
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			human nature.
		
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			In other words,
		
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			we are made in the image of God.
		
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			This is a hadith in Sahih Muslim.
		
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			Somebody might say, why why am I quoting
		
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			the Bible? This yeah. It's mentioned in Genesis
		
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			chapter 2, but this is also a sound
		
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			hadith
		
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			of the prophet, sallallahu alaihi wa sallam. But
		
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			what does he mean? Meaning, we are a
		
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			created
		
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			and contingent reflection
		
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			of God's names. We seek adala. We seek
		
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			justice
		
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			because he
		
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			is ala'adin,
		
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			the just, the perfectly just. He created us
		
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			to be representatives, his representatives
		
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			on the earth.
		
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			But let me give you something maybe a
		
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			bit more concrete
		
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			As I heard from one of my teachers,
		
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			let's take the moon landing as an example.
		
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			Right? The moon landing. Now according to traditional
		
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			exegetes,
		
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			the qamar, the moon, was was believed to
		
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			be in the sama,
		
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			okay, and thus inaccessible to human beings.
		
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			That was the standard tafsir.
		
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			Okay. A leading scholar during that time, during
		
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			the time of the Apollo missions
		
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			was asked, what do you say about this?
		
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			And this was his response. He said either
		
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			the American government is lying,
		
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			which a case can be made, by the
		
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			way, not some crazy conspiracy theory. I mean,
		
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			in 2021,
		
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			NASA can't even figure out a way to
		
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			get humans
		
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			beyond low earth orbit.
		
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			I mean, that's just a maximum of 1200
		
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			miles above the surface of the earth.
		
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			Yet between 1969
		
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			and 1972,
		
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			they claim
		
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			that 7 manned missions made it to the
		
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			moon and back safely.
		
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			Each journey is a round trip of 478
		
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			1,000 miles.
		
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			That's a bit of a
		
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			mystery. So either they're lying. Okay. Or he
		
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			said the exegetes have made a mistake.
		
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			You see our understanding of the revelation is
		
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			sharpened by the intellect, is sharpened by evidence.
		
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			This is Nurun al Anur, according to Imam
		
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			al Razi. The meaning of Nurun al Anur.
		
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			In Ayatun Nur
		
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			is the intellect upon the revelation.
		
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			A, a constant joining of the intellect
		
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			with the revelation,
		
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			a reconciliation
		
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			of the intellect with the revelation.
		
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			Okay. So in this example, the Quran was
		
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			not falsified. The Quran cannot be falsified,
		
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			and interpretation
		
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			of the Quran
		
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			was sharpened, again, if we did in fact
		
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			go to the moon. So there's a big
		
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			difference. The Quran cannot be falsified, but interpretations
		
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			can be sharpened, can be refined.
		
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			So it is the revelation itself.
		
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			It is the revelation itself. This is an
		
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			important point that constantly bids us to exercise
		
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			reason. Okay? So we will continue with our
		
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			reflections in the next session.
		
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			Until then, assalamu alaykum.