Ali Ataie – Interfaith Q&A Does The Quran Address The Death Of Jesus Christ – Pbuh

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The death of Christ is not related to the Bible and the church uses the word "Generation bus" instead of "ukran" in the Bible. There is confusion surrounding the names of the Jews in Judea, and a minority opinion may have been that Jesus was killed among Muslim worshipers. The confusion surrounding the names of the Jews in Judea is discussed, and the speaker suggests that there may have been cultural reasons for it.

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			Does the Qur'an address the death of
		
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			Christ?
		
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			Ah, good question.
		
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			Yes, that was on my mind here.
		
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			Yeah, so the Qur'an, according to the
		
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			dominant opinion, categorically rejects the crucifixion of Jesus.
		
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			So the Qur'an says, وَمَا تَطَلُّهُ وَمَا
		
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			سَلَبُهُ So the children of Israel did not
		
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			kill him nor crucify him.
		
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			The dominant opinion is that Christ wasn't crucified
		
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			and somehow God saved him.
		
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			Now the Qur'an does not go into
		
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			details as to what happened and neither does
		
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			the Prophet.
		
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			So later Muslim scholars, they have these sort
		
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			of theories as to what actually happened.
		
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			So the most dominant theory, again this is
		
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			not the definitive answer, there is no definitive
		
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			answer as to what actually happened.
		
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			But the most dominant theory is that a
		
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			disciple was transfigured to look like Christ and
		
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			he was the one crucified.
		
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			Now if you look at Christian history, we
		
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			know that there was a group in the
		
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			first century called the Thessalonians who actually believed
		
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			that Simon of Cyrene was crucified instead of
		
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			Christ.
		
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			This is obviously a pre-Islamic belief prevalent
		
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			in the Christian community, end of the first
		
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			century, early second century.
		
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			Who's Simon of Cyrene?
		
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			Well if you read the three gospels, the
		
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			Synoptic Gospels, it says that when they were
		
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			going to crucify Jesus, for some reason the
		
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			Romans pulled a man out of the crowd.
		
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			And Christian tradition teaches that Jesus was just
		
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			so exhausted he couldn't carry the cross.
		
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			It doesn't mention that in the New Testament,
		
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			so it's quite enigmatic.
		
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			But for some reason they pulled this man
		
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			out of the crowd, Simon of Cyrene, and
		
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			they compelled him to bear the cross.
		
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			There was a group of Christians in the
		
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			first century who said Simon was in fact
		
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			crucified because they saw the death of the
		
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			Messiah as sort of an oxymoron.
		
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			How can the Messiah die?
		
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			This was the main reason why most Jewish
		
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			elements did not believe in Christ.
		
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			Because according to their understanding, at least in
		
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			the Old Testament, the Messiah cannot be killed.
		
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			You won't dash his foot against a stone,
		
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			as it says in Psalm 91.
		
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			And interestingly, none of the passages in the
		
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			Old Testament that Christians will use prove texts
		
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			of the death of the Messiah.
		
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			The most famous of which is Isaiah 53,
		
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			the suffering servant.
		
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			The word Messiah does not appear in any
		
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			of those texts.
		
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			So the interpretation is somewhat open.
		
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			But in Psalm 20, verse 6, very interestingly,
		
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			David writes, in Hebrew he says, I
		
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			know that God will save his Messiah.
		
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			He shall hear him from his holy heaven
		
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			and save him with the saving power of
		
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			his right hand.
		
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			All right.
		
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			So this is, so I would say that
		
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			the Muslim belief about the Messiah is in
		
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			line with sort of pre-Christian Jewish expectations
		
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			of the Messiah.
		
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			So that's a dominant opinion, that he wasn't
		
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			crucified or killed.
		
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			There's other opinions that it might have been
		
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			Barabbas.
		
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			So if you look at early Alexandrian manuscripts
		
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			of the Gospel of Matthew, we're actually given
		
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			the first name of Barabbas.
		
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			You know.
		
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			So this whole incident of, you know, Pontius
		
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			Pilate releasing a Jewish prisoner, this seems to
		
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			be sort of unhistorical.
		
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			You know, you have two sort of, you
		
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			know, on yon kippur, you have two lambs.
		
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			You kill one, you set one free.
		
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			It's sort of something going on like that.
		
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			But if we just entertain the story for
		
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			now, apparently the Romans had this custom where
		
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			they would release a Jewish prisoner as an
		
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			act of goodwill before Passover.
		
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			So they bring out two prisoners.
		
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			One is named Barabbas, one is named Jesus
		
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			of Nazareth, right?
		
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			So according to the popular story in Matthew,
		
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			you know, who shall I release to you?
		
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			The crowd cheers and they release Barabbas and
		
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			they crucify Jesus, right?
		
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			And what's interesting is the word Barabbas is
		
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			not his name, it's a title.
		
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			Barabbas in Aramaic is Bar Abba.
		
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			Bar Abba means the son of the father.
		
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			So Barabbas is not some ordinary brigand.
		
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			He is a Messianic claimant.
		
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			He was from Galilee, and the Galileans were
		
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			known for two things.
		
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			Fishing and zealotry.
		
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			Or as the Romans would say, fishing and
		
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			terrorism, right?
		
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			Because they would organize these insurrections against the
		
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			Roman occupiers.
		
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			Jesus is from Galilee.
		
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			You know, the Galileans also had this sort
		
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			of accent that was very noticeable.
		
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			Noticeable, you know, sort of like if someone,
		
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			you know, speaks, you know, if someone is
		
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			from the south or something, and they start
		
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			speaking to all these guys, it was very
		
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			noticeable.
		
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			And the rest of the Jews, at least
		
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			the Jews in Judea, would sort of characterize
		
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			them as sort of peasants.
		
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			You know, they just, they don't know anything
		
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			and they're all violent and, you know.
		
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			So that's why it says in the Gospel
		
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			of Matthew that when Peter spoke in Judea,
		
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			Jerusalem, from his accent, they said, are you,
		
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			are you Galilean?
		
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			So that's why they said, no, you're his
		
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			disciple then.
		
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			Just in the way he spoke.
		
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			But anyway, so Barabbas is a Messianic claimant.
		
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			Now early, as I said, early manuscripts of
		
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			Matthew actually give us Barabbas' first name.
		
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			Does anyone know what his first name was?
		
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			Also Jesus.
		
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			So why did later scribes remove Barabbas' first
		
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			name in the Gospel of Matthew?
		
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			Because there might have been some confusion, maybe.
		
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			Who was actually crucified?
		
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			As you can imagine, what is Pilate actually
		
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			saying now?
		
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			Who shall I release to you?
		
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			Yeshua Barabbas, Jesus the son of the father.
		
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			Or Yeshua Hamashiach, Jesus who is called Christ.
		
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			It's the same name, the same title.
		
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			You know, release Jesus and kill Jesus.
		
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			What?
		
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			So many scholars believe that the first name
		
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			of Barabbas was removed for reverential reasons.
		
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			But it could be that there was confusion
		
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			amongst the people in Jerusalem at the time
		
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			as to who was actually crucified.
		
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			However, there is a minority opinion that Jesus
		
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			was in fact killed amongst Muslim scholars.
		
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			A minority opinion.
		
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			There's a good book on this by Todd
		
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			Lawson.
		
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			He's a good scholar, Todd Lawson.
		
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			It's called Crucifixion in the Quran.
		
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			And his contention is, the first exegete ever
		
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			to say that Jesus was replaced on the
		
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			cross, which is called literal docetism, by the
		
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			way, the first exegete ever to say that
		
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			was a Christian exegete, not a Muslim exegete.
		
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			It was a man named John Demasin, who
		
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			was an 8th century Christian scholar who lived
		
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			in Damascus.
		
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			He was the first one to write a
		
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			systematic refutation of the Psalms.
		
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			So his interpretation of that text is that
		
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			someone was replaced and then it seems like
		
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			Muslim scholars sort of followed suit after him.
		
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			But there is a minority opinion that the
		
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			meaning of the verse, they did not kill
		
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			him or crucify him, it was made to
		
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			appear so unto them, is that Jesus might
		
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			have been put on the cross, but he
		
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			didn't die from his injuries, that God seized
		
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			his soul while he was on the cross
		
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			and then returned it to him, possibly three
		
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			days later.
		
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			This might explain why Pilate, in the Gospel
		
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			of Mark, was so surprised that Christ had
		
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			died already.
		
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			You know, in the Gospel, it's only mentioned
		
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			by Mark.
		
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			They come back to Pilate and say, he's
		
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			dead.
		
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			He says, already?
		
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			And he marveled, it says.
		
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			Because he was a...
		
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			His whole business is crucifying Jews, right?
		
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			And Josephus says that at one point, they
		
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			actually ran out of lumber in Jerusalem because
		
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			they're crucifying so many Jews.
		
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			So he knew what it took to crucify
		
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			someone and what it took to kill them,
		
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			yet he marveled.
		
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			And this might explain, Father, into your hands
		
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			I commend my spirit.
		
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			It seems like he's sort of willingly giving
		
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			up the ghost, or knows it's going to
		
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			be taken from him and then returned to
		
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			him.
		
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			So there is an opinion like that.
		
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			Because there's other places in the Qur'an
		
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			where Jesus, where God says to Jesus, for
		
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			example, inni mutawwafika.
		
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			And you can very easily translate that as,
		
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			oh, Jesus, I'm going to take your soul
		
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			from you.
		
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			You don't have to twist the text.
		
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			I mean, that's a primary definition of that
		
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			active participle.
		
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			You know, you don't have to perform what
		
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			I call, what do I call it, hermeneutical
		
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			lard loading.
		
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			If you choke the text enough, it'll say
		
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			whatever you want.
		
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			So I would say there is a genuine
		
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			difference of opinion as to what the Qur
		
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			'an is saying about the crucifixion.
		
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			The dominant opinion seems to be, is, not
		
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			seems to be.
		
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			The dominant opinion is that Christ was not
		
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			crucified.
		
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			What happened?
		
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			Nobody knows.
		
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			There's a minority opinion that he might have
		
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			been killed, but his soul was returned to
		
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			him by God.
		
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			And his resurrection is proof that he indeed
		
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			was on the side.
		
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			And that he commissioned his disciples to go
		
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			and spread the gospel.
		
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			Both positions are correct, according to the Qur
		
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			'an, in my opinion.
		
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			I mean, I think there would be some
		
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			Muslims that would disagree with me on that.