Ahmad Kutty – Giants of Islamic CivilizationJall adDn Muhammad Rm

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The speakers discuss the importance of words of prayer and the importance of their heart in understanding Islam. They also touch on the influence of their mentor, Muhammad, who is the leader and guide. The segment concludes with a discussion of the upcoming class for further learning.

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			Alhamdulillah wa Salatu was Salam
ala Rasulillah while he was happy
		
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			he moraine
		
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			rubbish rally so the way silvium
re water Luca tamilisai lea Coco
		
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			Lee.
		
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			Once again we ask Allah subhanaw
taala
		
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			begged him imploring His mercy and
grace Allahumma limnol meiofauna
		
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			we'll find out we might allow them
to do was
		
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			teach us that which is beneficial
for us and bless us in the
		
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			knowledge you have granted us and
increase our knowledge.
		
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			Before I proceed, I want to ask
you a favor next week,
		
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			I will need to start the class
half an hour early show that only
		
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			next week I need to attend another
lecture. So, I will leave one
		
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			o'clock
		
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			I hope we all can understand
Inshallah, this is only for next
		
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			week. So we will start at 1145
inshallah.
		
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			So, Inshallah, please keep that in
mind.
		
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			And I will try to be sharp and
sharp, this time.
		
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			Now, today, we are approaching
		
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			the study of another personality.
		
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			Many people, when they hear the
name of Rumi, they have this
		
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			concept of a
		
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			free
		
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			wheeling and dancing,
		
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			crazy man,
		
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			you know, who is just
		
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			bearing the label of Islam and
then
		
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			makes utterances and statements
sometimes denouncing Islam in the
		
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			eyes, they think or interpret.
		
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			And,
		
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			and therefore it has nothing to do
with Islam, according to them.
		
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			And there are Muslims and non
Muslims, so called Muslims and non
		
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			Muslims sharing this view.
		
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			Now, we need to keep in mind that
		
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			Islam, as it has been
		
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			practiced, and believed and
experienced,
		
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			have embraced our
		
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			races and
		
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			all kinds of thinkers, scholars,
philosophers,
		
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			and the way each person has
experience related to Islam may be
		
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			slightly different from the way
another person or other thinkers
		
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			have related and experience it.
		
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			One of the best way to understand
this is
		
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			keep in mind, the Hadith Jibreel.
With the Prophet said, there are
		
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			three dimensions of Islam. One is
the outward level of conformity,
		
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			observance of the rituals.
		
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			It's Islam, in that sense, literal
sense. And then there is another
		
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			level which is a deeper level,
which is emaan faith, as
		
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			the seat of faith, the heart.
		
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			Then of course, then there is a
third level of experiencing the
		
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			faith
		
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			and experiencing this faith,
		
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			where is from individual to
individual, there are various
		
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			spiritual types even among the
sahaba.
		
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			You know, so this is how, if you
want a window or, or, or a glass
		
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			or lens to view, the various
types, the fingers color scholars
		
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			and philosophers Islam, you need
to keep this in mind.
		
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			To put it in a different way.
Islam is a civilization
		
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			try to relate to these three
dimensions. So in doing so, a try
		
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			to there were three streams
actually in Islam, like tradition,
		
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			scholarship,
		
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			Revelation, reason and intuition.
		
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			Revelation is the study of the
Scripture, the Quran and Hadith as
		
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			the revealed scriptures, the Quran
and the authentic sunnah of the
		
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			Prophet and then use of reason to
understand this to interpret it.
		
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			Try to relate to it according to
changing circumstances, then there
		
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			is that individual subjective
experience of faith.
		
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			Sufism is an expression of that
		
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			even as the Jewish related to
Islam with a reason to come out in
		
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			foreign reduce rules
		
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			to to judge
		
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			10s personalities to apply it in
the court or give verdicts and
		
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			counseling.
		
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			They will those who were more
focused on purifying the spiritual
		
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			heart and, and developing that
communion with Allah subhanho wa
		
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			Taala in the love of Allah
subhanho wa taala. In doing so,
		
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			they have exercised EGT had of
course I'm calling to explain this
		
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			by using the
		
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			the interpretation of Ebro Tamia
who is going to be studied next
		
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			time inshallah nobody could accuse
me of being
		
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			a crazy Sufi.
		
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			He says that even as the folk haha
have made EGT hard and some of
		
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			them made errors in judgment. The
Sufis made the Tierra de ba.
		
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			So sometimes they made mistakes.
So how do you judge them?
		
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			You don't judge them by the errors
they made, you judge them by their
		
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			overall legacy and contribution
and performance. Even our Mobarak
		
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			we mentioned is studied him, he
said, Don't judge a person by
		
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			looking at one thing or two he has
done look at the overall
		
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			legacy contribution and difference
he made in the world. Now, I want
		
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			you to keep in this in mind, while
judging Maulana Rumi I am not, I
		
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			don't consider myself worthy of
judging this great personality,
		
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			because I have studied him as much
as I could. And my background is
		
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			shaker and Sharia and tafsir and
yet I could not judge him
		
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			conduct condemn your stuff for
Allah stuff for Allah, I am not
		
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			worthy of measuring the depth of
this credit
		
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			score and and Sophie st and and
mentor. So of course I need to
		
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			express that okay, this is a very,
very vast topic. Because you know,
		
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			why?
		
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			Rumi is the most
		
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			influential poet and thinker in
America today. And of course, in
		
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			the West also, he has been worried
vary widely popular in all levels.
		
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			And in his own time, he deeply
influenced our levels of the
		
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			society
		
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			from the top to the bottom.
		
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			And what kind of influenced him
made
		
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			I have no doubt in my mind. He
guided many, many people,
		
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			countless people to discover Allah
Spano Tala to come to God
		
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			Almighty. So, this is what. So,
nobody is no poet, he is the most
		
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			widely read poet, millions of
copies of his poetry have been
		
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			sold. And of course, even
		
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			strange people study him and I
will come to that Shala so in this
		
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			session, we are going to touch
briefly some of this
		
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			origins and education is Sophie
and she initiation and
		
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			transformation. How he became an
extract point and mentor, and then
		
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			his massive literary output. His
message of course, Rumi's message
		
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			should not be room's message. And
then Cushing roomies Islam, many
		
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			people crushing it, I want to deal
with that a little bit. And the
		
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			abiding influence of this is
great.
		
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			Personality.
		
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			His full name was gelato de
Muhammad, of course, his name is
		
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			Mohammed. Of course, his
		
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			gelato.
		
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			Mohammed, and he was born in
Belarus.
		
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			Bulk was part of Afghanistan
		
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			is part of Carozza and which is
now in Afghanistan. Of course at
		
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			that time, they have to understand
this boundaries didn't know
		
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			They exist
		
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			because he was born in Beirut,
which is now part of Afghanistan.
		
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			Upon his call him Belfie
		
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			Jalaluddin al Belsey. The man from
birth, of course, just like it
		
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			happened with Biruni everybody
want to claim that he is one of
		
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			them? Of course Iranians one,
because he is of a Persian
		
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			stock of course.
		
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			It is said that Maulana
Jalaluddin,
		
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			his lineage goes back to Abu Bakr,
Saudi Arabia lower low,
		
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			but he was born into a Persian
milieu.
		
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			And therefore, he, he mastered
		
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			Arabic and Persian, but he wrote
most of his works in Persian and
		
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			partially in Arabic, his Arabic is
excellent. He will compose poems
		
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			in Arabic,
		
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			but he is known as Rumi, the man
from Rome, because he settled in
		
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			Anatolia, Anatolia, which was
referred to as Rome at the time.
		
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			But have you know is Roman
		
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			he is called Maulana Maulana
means,
		
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			our master our teacher,
		
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			to Turkish Turkish people call him
Milena moulana.
		
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			They pronounced says, of course,
		
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			they revere him so much. All the
Turks revere him
		
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			and, of course proud of,
		
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			of claiming him
		
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			as the great
		
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			mentor, he died in cornea,
Anatolia, personally part of
		
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			Turkey in the twirl 73
		
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			This is just now
		
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			Romi was a product of perfect
Islamic milieu, because Carozza
		
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			and was the center of I already
mentioned,
		
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			Islamic scholarship.
		
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			There are great scholars,
		
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			theologians, Jewish and mystics,
Sufi scholars, saints,
		
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			living in that part of the world
and he himself is, is born into a
		
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			family and
		
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			his ancestors were Hanafi jurists
actually so deeply spiritual
		
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			milieu.
		
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			Moral and spiritual ideals of the
Quran and the Sunnah, was lived
		
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			and practiced by people at all
levels. Very, very
		
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			religious family and milieu. And I
already mentioned that Islam had
		
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			been practiced at three levels,
outward conformity, belief,
		
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			spiritual realization. Okay, Rumi
came from a long line of Hanafi
		
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			scholars and jurists who are also
practicing Sufis.
		
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			This gap or wedge between Sufism
or Sharia did not exist in that
		
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			time.
		
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			Great scholars were also Sufis.
They practiced spirituality,
		
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			including people like Rob the
salaam of the salaam, was, was a
		
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			great
		
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			he has poem about the degeneration
of Sufism. But his is his works on
		
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			spiritualities is highly
cherished. And Imam nawawi able to
		
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			hold on we are going to talk about
him even a Tamia you won't even
		
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			though he would be the last person
to be
		
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			considered a Sufi, but documents
are come out showing that he was
		
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			affiliated with the Sufi masters,
as is lineage going, he gave birth
		
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			to Sufi master and things like
that. Of course, this is now
		
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			almost accepted that he was not a
did not denounce Sufism or of his
		
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			works. When carefully studied by
the way, I wrote a thesis paper on
		
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			Norberto thermistor. So Wolf, I
discovered that he is only
		
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			condemning the heretical status of
Wolf is not condemning Sufism, he
		
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			made a distinction between pseudo
Sufis and genuine Sufis. The
		
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			Romans also famous for him like
Junaid and others, they are the
		
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			true representatives of Islamic
spirituality refers to the URL
		
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			Bashar
		
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			Al
		
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			Messiah, the great masters. Okay,
so we need to put this, this kind
		
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			of notion to rest
		
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			and Romi received training in all
of the Islamic sciences.
		
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			It's because of his deep mastery
of Islamic sciences, theology,
		
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			philosophy, and Quran Tafseer
Hadith. And fiqh is very, very
		
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			deep mastery. That's why when the
orientalist approaches work, if
		
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			they cannot really, because of his
depth, they get only one aspect,
		
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			one dimension of meaning. Whereas
this man is deeply
		
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			imbued with this knowledge, vast
knowledge, storehouse of
		
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			knowledge. Therefore, it's very,
very hard to translate him,
		
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			according to the every one of them
have come out with this, that
		
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			because of his, this is all
because of his depth
		
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			in understanding the ceramic
tradition, horizontally and
		
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			vertically,
		
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			not just the superficial level,
deeper level. And
		
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			so, he is a master, he has great
deep mastery of Arabic literature.
		
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			And he quotes from it Tafseer Of
course, of course, that Hadees,
		
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			fake tasawwuf theology and
philosophy.
		
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			He really
		
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			makes cating attacks on
rationalist philosophers who want
		
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			to dispense with religion and
Revelation said this is philos
		
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			reason is, it cannot get to the
mystery of Allah subhanaw taala
		
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			without revelation without Rasul
Allah without the Quran,
		
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			you cannot get to the truth. So of
course, he's not rejecting reason
		
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			he, he assigns a role for reason,
but reasons should not overstep
		
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			his boundaries.
		
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			And this thing is stressed
throughout his works.
		
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			And that's why the rationalist
philosophers in the modern world
		
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			who study Ruby, who had left their
religion, they discover faith
		
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			again, I will come to that. So
this teacher was his father. It
		
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			was a first teacher who is father,
who was a great scholar he was
		
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			referred to as Sultan Rama. He was
a Hanafi jurist, just like his
		
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			grandfather was a harmful jurist.
His father was a Hanafi jurist.
		
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			And of course, he is a practicing
Sufi. And it said that he had
		
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			engaged in kind of exchange with
the philosopher and theologian or
		
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			Razi. Razi is the author of The
encyclopedic commentary on the
		
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			Quran. He's a theologian and
philosopher, and Muslim, great
		
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			scholar, but his approach to Quran
was more rational. So,
		
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			you know, Robbie's father did not
like that approach. That of
		
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			course, reason has its limits. So
he thought he is overstepping
		
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			Iran, therefore,
		
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			he had some very, very heated
exchanges. And some people say
		
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			it's because of this enemy team.
		
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			That ensured from that, that
Romans father had to leave
		
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			bail,
		
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			and go elsewhere because his life
was in danger, because
		
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			Razi was very influential with the
rulers of the time and is the
		
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			governor. This is one, but of
course, another
		
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			explanation is, that's not the
reason that he left too because
		
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			just like many scholars did,
		
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			the Mongols were approaching and
of course, Mongols were known for
		
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			their,
		
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			you know, butchering and Masako in
committing genocide, so many
		
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			scholars left to battle in order
to flee from the Mongol invaders.
		
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			He left with his family traveling
to Makkah and Medina Of course, he
		
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			performed the pilgrimage with the
family, his son was with him his
		
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			wife, and of course then he spent
some years in Damascus.
		
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			And also Baghdad and other places
finally settled down and
		
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			In Anatolia at the invitation of
the governor, Governor of
		
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			Anatolia,
		
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			invited him and, of course, he set
up a college, of course, a number
		
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			of colleges were set up in
Anatolia at the time. The governor
		
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			set up a college for him to teach.
There were other scholars also
		
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			teaching there, but he was the
main scholar in that college.
		
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			Room. His father, as I said, was a
jurist giving fatwas and of
		
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			course, he was also a Sufi Shea's
mentoring students
		
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			embarked in modern spiritual
training.
		
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			When his father died, when he was,
Oh, almost 25 years, I remember
		
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			correctly
		
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			27 writing
		
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			and then he succeeded to his
chair,
		
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			as a teacher, and preacher,
		
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			and Rumi started teaching and
preaching or for enrolling Santa
		
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			Fe folk.
		
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			At that time, he was not so much a
		
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			because I don't, the person who
initiated him into Kosovo, Sufism
		
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			was,
		
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			was a disciple of his father
		
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			Berhanu Dean,
		
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			and of course, who mentored him
and trained him, and then, Sufi,
		
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			Rumi had already become a
practicing Sufi.
		
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			But then,
		
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			still, he was more like a preacher
and jurist more than
		
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			a Sufi master, but the age of 37
		
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			Orientalis, we'll call this money
wandering the rubbish, actually,
		
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			now,
		
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			facts are coming out to show that
this was not a wandering dervish.
		
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			This was a scholar of Shafi School
of jurisprudence, world trade and
		
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			Islamic sciences, you know, look
how they want to. So they think
		
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			that the here comes in a trade
wandering dervish, and then
		
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			suddenly, this le traitement
transforms Rumi into a into a
		
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			madman, you know, that's not the
case. Now, his works have also
		
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			been unearthed by scholars which
show how deeply he mustered Eve as
		
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			a half inch of the Quran
memorized, not really memorize the
		
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			Quran, he was deeply immerse in
the Tafseer and he's the one who,
		
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			who was
		
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			who never compromise with
following the Sunnah of the
		
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			Prophet anybody compromise with
following the Sunnah of the
		
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			Prophet who would rebuke them and
things like that. So this was not
		
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			a wandering, a strange dervish. He
was a scholar practitioner of, of
		
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			sunnah of the Prophet, Allah
Islam, and of course, he is a
		
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			Sufi. But this man had this
longing, spiritual longing, and he
		
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			was looking for a real brother,
who would share the same kind of
		
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			yearning force, you know, that
communion with Allah subhanaw
		
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			taala, because
		
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			they got this kind of concept from
the Hadith of the Prophet,
		
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			actually the Oh hoo, wah, you
know, the spiritual brotherhood.
		
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			Brother should be a mirror of his
brother.
		
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			You know, one, we explained this
or this, we'll look at this in a
		
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			very superficial way. But this
chorus looked at it that a mirror
		
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			is someone who would help you
correct yourself.
		
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			So that he will see
		
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			the poison within and try to help
you purify yourself when you
		
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			purify your heart, through this
kind of a mirror.
		
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			What happened to
		
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			the heart reflects the truth, the
real knowledge, microphone.
		
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			The true wisdom.
		
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			It is in this way
		
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			that he they look at each other.
So shamsudeen lokala Romi as his
		
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			mirror Ruby Lucara template
		
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			A mirror.
		
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			So they became so much attached.
And of course, Rumi was utterly
		
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			devoted to conversing and
		
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			communing with his brother. So
much so that he even neglected his
		
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			other work because he thought Now,
this is the perfect time for him
		
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			to polish the mirror of his heart.
		
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			Of course, this is the awareness
because he was completely fired up
		
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			by this spiritual yearning. You
know, even our claim describes
		
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			this thing for him is a disciple
of Imam Ebro Tamia. He said, in
		
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			the heart of human being, there is
this unquenchable thirst,
		
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			this restlessness, this anxiety,
all of this comes from
		
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			our disconnection with Allah
subhanaw taala.
		
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			And it can only be quenched by
actually devoting ourselves to
		
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			Allah.
		
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			And even our claim, I want to say
it now, because there is a book
		
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			out there. Love humbly is, you
know, the love of God,
		
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			as taught and expressed in the
humbly school, meaning that even
		
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			as some scholars said that the
theme of Islamic civilization is
		
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			knowledge. There are other scores
coming out, no, it's the love of
		
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			God.
		
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			That is the heart of Islam. And
that was
		
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			that gives us a lens to study
Rumi.
		
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			So this love of Allah, this is
what the claim is speaking about.
		
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			And that's what the message of
Rumi is also this love of Allah
		
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			subhanaw taala. Once a person has
been transformed by this yearning
		
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			for the love of Allah, and try to
gain that and purge himself for
		
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			that
		
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			everything else
		
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			is secondary.
		
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			While doing so, everything out
there for him a means of gaining
		
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			this love. So it's not the
monasticism of the Christians.
		
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			Because for Christians, you have
to forsake everything. But this
		
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			Sufi masters, they married, they
had children, and they were
		
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			involved in society charactering
The rulers, everything. That's
		
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			what this is how you get the love
of philosophy, but they look at
		
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			everything as a mirror of the
beauty of Allah.
		
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			So the look at the author equals
Shayla who is to todo lo Allah and
		
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			know who wide everything out there
is revealing the wisdom and the
		
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			glory and the Oneness of Allah.
		
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			See, and that is with us her
heart. Also, if you think deeply,
		
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			your heart, your pulse, you know,
it's our messages to you the
		
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			messages, you should look.
		
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			They are talking about the opening
the eye of the heart when the
		
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			Quran says there are many who are
is but they don't see.
		
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			They are blind, because they only
see outward appearances.
		
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			But these are the people who the
their eyes of the heart have been
		
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			opened. So this what happened. So
he became spiritually utterly
		
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			transformed.
		
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			Not just but that doesn't mean he
gave up jurisprudence. No, no, no,
		
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			he didn't.
		
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			Doesn't mean he gave up prayer. He
never gave up prayer. I was
		
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			addressing a group of clergy in
when a
		
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			couple of years ago, and then you
know, we were talking about how
		
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			Rasulullah sallallaahu Salam
		
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			you know, shed so much tears while
praying to Allah subhanaw taala
		
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			in this prayer in sujood so that
blanket was soaked with tears,
		
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			as I shall learn to describe it.
Then I had to also follow it up
		
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			with a story of Rumi. It is said
in winter month when it is really
		
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			really cold and Anatolia.
		
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			He was making bad jokes then he
cried so much. Show that his beard
		
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			got stuck frozen
		
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			And the talk is weird for him to
stand up. So
		
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			this is the man. Rumi is not
somebody who say once you get to
		
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			Toronto, you don't need to take a
bus to reach there. You know, like
		
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			the so called, you know, Mystic
say You know, you don't need to
		
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			pray because you're always pray.
So you don't need to perform namaz
		
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			five daily prayers, because you
are already with Allah.
		
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			Because once you are you have
already reached render. So why do
		
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			you take a bus to reach them?
That's not this is how the missin
		
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			repeat this is not the way. So,
here the first time gounder
		
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			between shamsudeen and shamsudeen
was over 60 At that time, whereas
		
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			Rumi was 237 young person.
		
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			So, he wants to just shake him up.
		
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			Because you know, look at the
question itself that shows that
		
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			how shamsudeen is as color he he
find no discord or, you know,
		
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			contradiction between Sharia and
Haqiqa. The question is, who is
		
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			superior in spiritual rank by as
either Stamey or Prophet Muhammad?
		
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			Who is asking this question
		
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			this shamsudeen sums, the, you
know, a number of seminars
		
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			translated, one of the one of
		
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			wrote about the one of Rumi, one
the one of the one dedicated to
		
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			the memory of shamsudeen as trying
for a son, triumphal son, because
		
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			So, Ruby replied, What a strange
question.
		
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			Muhammad salallahu Salam is
greater than our the saints put
		
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			together.
		
00:32:07 --> 00:32:10
			You don't need to ask this
question, the discussion should
		
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			never arise, because Muhammad
Sallallahu al Islam is the sale of
		
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			prophets. And of course, he can
never No sane can compete with him
		
00:32:19 --> 00:32:24
			in spiritual. So why is it then
that Muhammad said to God
		
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			Almighty, I didn't know you as I
should have.
		
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			While Why is it said, glory be to
me how exalted is my stage?
		
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			Meaning of course, this is
somebody who is so much immersed
		
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			with the spiritual experience. So
he lost his. So his are consumed
		
00:32:45 --> 00:32:50
			by that vision of God. Okay, so
he's not literally saying that he
		
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			himself is God, but he's lost. So,
Rumi explain that one masala Islam
		
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			was the greater of the two because
by us, it could be filled to
		
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			capacity by a single experience of
divine Brussels, whereas
		
00:33:04 --> 00:33:08
			Rasulullah as capacity was
unlimited, and could never be
		
00:33:08 --> 00:33:12
			filled with one vision, you
understand less nothing is
		
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			yearning for more and more. So, of
course, immediately jumps realize,
		
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			you're not talking about an
ordinary Sufi, you're talking his
		
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			talk, talking with a spiritually
attained person. So, they became
		
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			clung to each other, each one is
benefiting from the other and they
		
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			are conversing and conversing for
days and days. Even No, not much
		
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			for you understand. So this arouse
the jealousy of, of His disciples,
		
00:33:50 --> 00:33:55
			Rumi's disciples, they thought,
their master now is just solely
		
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			devoted to this. Of course, this
is a faith because you need to
		
00:33:59 --> 00:34:06
			have some retreat for spiritual
development. So because that's how
		
00:34:06 --> 00:34:10
			Rumi look at it that is a perfect
opportunity for him to purify
		
00:34:10 --> 00:34:15
			himself and again, you know,
closer and closer to Allah
		
00:34:15 --> 00:34:20
			subhanaw taala. So, this mirror of
spiritual mirror.
		
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			So,
		
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			now I am not talking about what
happened to Rumi to shamans,
		
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			because some say Shams, relocated
himself disappeared from the
		
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			scene. Or some say some of the
		
00:34:40 --> 00:34:44
			jealous disciples of Rumi murdered
him.
		
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			Only Allah knows what happened.
But
		
00:34:52 --> 00:34:56
			Romy had already given shumsa One
of the
		
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			girls you know
		
00:35:00 --> 00:35:01
			of his family and marriage.
		
00:35:03 --> 00:35:08
			And, of course, then suddenly one
night, people came to call him
		
00:35:08 --> 00:35:12
			out. And then after that, he was
no more seen.
		
00:35:13 --> 00:35:18
			They say that he was murdered
others say he, he had said that he
		
00:35:18 --> 00:35:24
			would disappear. So only Allah
knows the truth what happened. But
		
00:35:24 --> 00:35:27
			then after he left, what happened
is
		
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			suddenly, Rumi became an ecstatic
poet until that time himselves
		
00:35:37 --> 00:35:41
			said he has no value for poetry,
he attached no value, because
		
00:35:41 --> 00:35:46
			he's, he's just color of Quran and
things like that for and Quran
		
00:35:46 --> 00:35:50
			contrast points except those who
are using poetry for good purpose
		
00:35:50 --> 00:35:57
			and things like that. So he has,
back then, spontaneously, he
		
00:35:57 --> 00:35:59
			paused for a you know,
		
00:36:01 --> 00:36:07
			it was points came out, of course,
he has no control it just like
		
00:36:07 --> 00:36:09
			river flowing
		
00:36:10 --> 00:36:15
			from him. And of course, all of
these are expressions of love.
		
00:36:17 --> 00:36:21
			You know, he's not talking about
physical love. He's talking about
		
00:36:21 --> 00:36:26
			love of God, what now, this
western people read into it, that
		
00:36:26 --> 00:36:31
			he's talking about physical now.
Start for Allah start for Allah.
		
00:36:31 --> 00:36:36
			So that's not the way Muslim
scholars and
		
00:36:37 --> 00:36:43
			and those who, who we interacted
with him understood, because
		
00:36:43 --> 00:36:48
			although he uses all this
metaphors, it are referring to the
		
00:36:48 --> 00:36:51
			love of God, actually the real
love.
		
00:36:52 --> 00:36:57
			Okay, so his love, intense love
and longing for surrender to God
		
00:36:57 --> 00:37:01
			made him an ecstatic poet and
teacher, port for the spiritual
		
00:37:01 --> 00:37:10
			experiences. And all of them every
single work of his, if you read
		
00:37:10 --> 00:37:14
			carefully is filled with verses
from the Quran. traditions of the
		
00:37:14 --> 00:37:19
			prophets are allowed Islam and
Tales from the saints before him.
		
00:37:21 --> 00:37:28
			And literature, poetry, Arabic
poetry, it's all He uses all of
		
00:37:28 --> 00:37:34
			them. To, you know, to explain, of
course, this is not
		
00:37:35 --> 00:37:40
			his massive Navy's magnum opus is
a massive work and six volumes.
		
00:37:43 --> 00:37:47
			And Nicholsons, who words I will
explain who in the Corson is it
		
00:37:47 --> 00:37:52
			contains almost as many verses the
Iliad and Odyssey together and
		
00:37:52 --> 00:37:57
			about twice as many as that the
community, you know, this Divine
		
00:37:57 --> 00:37:58
			Comedy.
		
00:37:59 --> 00:38:05
			These are great to works in
English and European literature.
		
00:38:06 --> 00:38:13
			So Nicholson who translated Rumi
is one of the I Will we need to
		
00:38:15 --> 00:38:19
			it is referred to as a spiritual
commentary on the Quran, actually
		
00:38:19 --> 00:38:20
			Masnavi
		
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			mastery is just like so many
people made Tafseer of the Quran.
		
00:38:29 --> 00:38:32
			Some of them have theological
orientation, some of them
		
00:38:32 --> 00:38:37
			philosophy call orientation, some
of them, you know, fakey
		
00:38:37 --> 00:38:38
			orientation,
		
00:38:39 --> 00:38:44
			Rumi is making a spiritual
commentary on the Quran. And of
		
00:38:44 --> 00:38:47
			course, this is even recognized
now by
		
00:38:49 --> 00:38:55
			all those who study deeply
Barthelemy. They said this is this
		
00:38:55 --> 00:39:02
			is a spiritual Tafseer of Quran.
So Jeremy, one of the great poets
		
00:39:02 --> 00:39:06
			Persian poets who came after him,
he called it Quran in Persian,
		
00:39:07 --> 00:39:12
			mean Quran, transfer to push it.
Of course, he's talking about the
		
00:39:12 --> 00:39:18
			meanings of the Quran transferred
into push, rendered in push.
		
00:39:21 --> 00:39:25
			One of the latest researchers
oriented race into muscle he said,
		
00:39:26 --> 00:39:29
			muscle memory itself is composed
		
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			on the border of the Quran,
meaning in the sense, the way it
		
00:39:36 --> 00:39:41
			runs from one team to the other is
not just influenced by the team,
		
00:39:42 --> 00:39:47
			even the organization and things
like that. It's trying to transfer
		
00:39:47 --> 00:39:49
			the inner meanings of the Quran
		
00:39:51 --> 00:39:52
			because
		
00:39:54 --> 00:39:58
			unfortunately, whether we like it
or not, if you look at the fossil
		
00:39:58 --> 00:39:59
			literature
		
00:40:00 --> 00:40:06
			Most of them are not giving us a
spiritual insight into the Quran.
		
00:40:07 --> 00:40:13
			They are either dealing with the
loss Feck or theology, they are
		
00:40:13 --> 00:40:17
			not whereas if you look at the
Quran SAR always talking about
		
00:40:17 --> 00:40:19
			Allah and he signs,
		
00:40:21 --> 00:40:22
			you know,
		
00:40:23 --> 00:40:26
			demand from us to surrender to Him
		
00:40:29 --> 00:40:32
			to allow him more than anything
else, isn't it? That is what the
		
00:40:32 --> 00:40:37
			Quran is all about from every
verse is filled with this kind of
		
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			exhortation that calling us to
allow smaller Ouattara. Now, so
		
00:40:41 --> 00:40:45
			where do you find this kind of
commentary? Of course, definitely,
		
00:40:45 --> 00:40:50
			you will find it in machinery. But
of course, it's very, because He
		
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			does it by using all of the
toolkit available to him. It was
		
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			translated to English by the great
Orientalist Nicholson.
		
00:41:01 --> 00:41:06
			Actually it is said about
Nicholson that this is one of the
		
00:41:06 --> 00:41:07
			greatest scholars
		
00:41:10 --> 00:41:15
			of Islam, produced by
orientalists. British Orientalist
		
00:41:15 --> 00:41:16
			is
		
00:41:19 --> 00:41:21
			one who is teaching machinery
		
00:41:23 --> 00:41:25
			he cannot control his tears.
		
00:41:26 --> 00:41:33
			He will we hear the same attire
comparable to Rumi, even a topi
		
00:41:33 --> 00:41:40
			and everything he will, and when
he is lecturing on trees, is a
		
00:41:40 --> 00:41:42
			deeply emotional person he was.
		
00:41:45 --> 00:41:51
			And then, of course, he devoted
his life. And then at deathbed is
		
00:41:51 --> 00:41:55
			sad, it's sad that he is now
understanding Rumi better.
		
00:41:58 --> 00:41:59
			Okay.
		
00:42:01 --> 00:42:04
			He's the Coulson student, our
burrito,
		
00:42:05 --> 00:42:08
			also translated some of the other
works for Rumi.
		
00:42:11 --> 00:42:18
			Of course, I have this here.
Mystical points of Rumi, Volume
		
00:42:18 --> 00:42:23
			One and two, this is volume tool.
And of course, if we read
		
00:42:25 --> 00:42:27
			this introduction here
		
00:42:29 --> 00:42:35
			are the Muslims who, who cast
doubts on Romans Islam
		
00:42:36 --> 00:42:41
			will be ashamed of reading what
arbery wrote
		
00:42:44 --> 00:42:45
			how Ruby influenced
		
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			the Coulson and arbery
		
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			who have been trained as
academics. And you know, the
		
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			training, academic training in the
western universities was natural
		
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			faith.
		
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			It will turn you against God and
faith and religion everything
		
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			because you become so much proud
of your rash reason, the power of
		
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			reason. And then how this great
one's
		
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			gay gain their faith in God and
not only gain their faith in God
		
00:43:24 --> 00:43:24
			and
		
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			they found this experience of
faith the greatest thing
		
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			greatest thing
		
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			and, and they.
		
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			So, they were transformed by their
study of Rumi three Euro. The one
		
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			is another Ambassador called
poetry which was inspired by his
		
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			meeting with Shams Okay, the one
of course that has been translated
		
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			by
		
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			and worked by Annemarie Schimmel.
AnneMarie Schimmel was the
		
00:44:03 --> 00:44:09
			greatest scholar of Sufism in
Harvard University, German scholar
		
00:44:11 --> 00:44:14
			and she is the one who through her
studies
		
00:44:17 --> 00:44:19
			turned you know,
		
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			she was so much more by the Quran.
She said that Quran is such
		
00:44:28 --> 00:44:34
			that even though you may have
heard a verse 1000 times, every
		
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			time you hear it, it is as though
it's a fresh revelation.
		
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			So a numerous shimmer said about
Rumi is mustard away that it is
		
00:44:47 --> 00:44:49
			definitely a commentary on the
Quran.
		
00:44:52 --> 00:44:56
			Persian commentary on the Quran
and of course, she has written
		
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			extensively. It's all about
extracting data
		
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			So Devin Lau and his yearning to
connect with God, Rumi also left
		
00:45:03 --> 00:45:09
			VR in more than 100 letters. This
has now come out and all these
		
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			letters
		
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			contrary to what people have
formed about him, he is interested
		
00:45:18 --> 00:45:21
			in guiding and helping even the
poorest of the poor.
		
00:45:22 --> 00:45:26
			The letters they address to the
princess to the governor's to the
		
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			rich men,
		
00:45:29 --> 00:45:33
			helping them kind of selling them
how they should help the needy
		
00:45:33 --> 00:45:38
			person, people with loans come to
him asking, so he writes to
		
00:45:38 --> 00:45:40
			someone, please help
		
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			all kinds of counselors is trying
to influence move the society
		
00:45:48 --> 00:45:53
			towards Allah subhanho wa taala,
towards practice of Islam and real
		
00:45:53 --> 00:45:53
			sense.
		
00:45:54 --> 00:46:01
			So he is not a monkey sitting in a
cell, just concerned with his old
		
00:46:01 --> 00:46:06
			his, his concern with the poorest
of the poor, as well as with
		
00:46:06 --> 00:46:11
			everybody, all layers of the
society. There are letters
		
00:46:11 --> 00:46:14
			addressed to different people
different
		
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			helping people in every station,
and that's what the for him what
		
00:46:22 --> 00:46:25
			the Prophet did. So, he is trying
to follow the example of the
		
00:46:25 --> 00:46:26
			prophets of mouse.
		
00:46:29 --> 00:46:35
			What is Ruby's message of course
our is message, every work that
		
00:46:35 --> 00:46:37
			you take of Rumi
		
00:46:38 --> 00:46:42
			is simply calling us back to Allah
subhanaw taala.
		
00:46:44 --> 00:46:48
			But in order to get to Allah, we
need to kill them that's the ego
		
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			stands in the way
		
00:46:52 --> 00:46:56
			our jealousies times in the way
our pride stands in the way
		
00:46:59 --> 00:47:06
			our enemity hostility so we need
to purge we need to overcome that
		
00:47:06 --> 00:47:06
			knifes
		
00:47:10 --> 00:47:13
			die before you die. That's the
message
		
00:47:15 --> 00:47:17
			you know, he talks about
		
00:47:19 --> 00:47:24
			so many stories are there one
story says Daddy You know this is
		
00:47:24 --> 00:47:30
			a parable actually is using this
to teach us that we cannot flee
		
00:47:30 --> 00:47:31
			from Allah
		
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			we cannot flee from Allah you know
Salam Monterrey CERAM is sitting
		
00:47:40 --> 00:47:45
			with this courtiers with this big
assembly and a man as writer
		
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			comes.
		
00:47:47 --> 00:47:50
			And as Ray looks at this man who
sold us to take
		
00:47:51 --> 00:47:59
			so the man turns to slay Monterey
Salem asking him to save selenium
		
00:47:59 --> 00:48:04
			when I slam orders the vent to
take him far away Twinstar
		
00:48:05 --> 00:48:06
			Okay, so,
		
00:48:08 --> 00:48:09
			of course
		
00:48:10 --> 00:48:15
			then what happens Sulayman or
Islamize visa aisle,
		
00:48:16 --> 00:48:19
			you know, why were you looking at
him
		
00:48:21 --> 00:48:25
			and I have ordered him I have
taken to Hindustan
		
00:48:26 --> 00:48:28
			The answer came from Israel.
		
00:48:30 --> 00:48:36
			My order the order form for me
from my Lord is that I should take
		
00:48:36 --> 00:48:37
			a stroll in Hindustan
		
00:48:39 --> 00:48:43
			so it's good that you transported
in there
		
00:48:44 --> 00:48:50
			that's my order. So the This
parable is using to teach us we
		
00:48:50 --> 00:48:53
			can never free from Allah subhanaw
taala.
		
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			So
		
00:48:57 --> 00:48:59
			where can we flee from Allah?
		
00:49:00 --> 00:49:06
			It is in this our every single
lesson. And then another thing of
		
00:49:06 --> 00:49:11
			okay, of course what happens now,
people are always concerned about
		
00:49:11 --> 00:49:12
			the words of prayer, isn't it?
		
00:49:14 --> 00:49:20
			How we have become so obsessed
with the letter of our many people
		
00:49:20 --> 00:49:26
			say that, you know, beloved really
alone cannot pronounce these words
		
00:49:26 --> 00:49:30
			in Arabic properly. Or they say
that Salman Farsi could not
		
00:49:30 --> 00:49:35
			pronounce because they were a b c
bellava, sub cerium and Salmaan
		
00:49:35 --> 00:49:41
			was pushing. So the mockridge so
this obsession with the makrut
		
00:49:42 --> 00:49:48
			obsession with Tajweed as Imam
Xiao Lilla is to see TGV This
		
00:49:49 --> 00:49:51
			is a key to the Quran isn't it?
		
00:49:54 --> 00:49:56
			But now it has become an end in
itself.
		
00:49:57 --> 00:49:59
			So articulating the sound
		
00:50:00 --> 00:50:06
			So pronunciation is just only a
means. So roaming, want to teach
		
00:50:06 --> 00:50:11
			us this, that there is a parable
The story reported in the tafsir
		
00:50:11 --> 00:50:18
			works that the Shepherd was making
supplication to Allah. You're
		
00:50:18 --> 00:50:21
			asking the last one on what? To
help him clean his house and this
		
00:50:21 --> 00:50:25
			and that. So most RSL and
gotsoccer so upset What do you
		
00:50:25 --> 00:50:30
			think Allah is? Allah? Is someone
fixing your, you know, picking the
		
00:50:30 --> 00:50:35
			eyes from your hair and things
like that? You understand? So what
		
00:50:35 --> 00:50:40
			do you think bodies are gorgeous,
glorious exalted and Teasley. So
		
00:50:40 --> 00:50:44
			Allah answered, Musa alayhis
salam, you know, I am not
		
00:50:44 --> 00:50:48
			concerned with the words he
speaks. I'm concerned with the
		
00:50:48 --> 00:50:52
			heart. Because he's turning to me.
		
00:50:53 --> 00:50:59
			He is not by a master of language
of articulation. So I don't look
		
00:50:59 --> 00:51:03
			at your words, I look more into
your heart. Rasulullah sallallahu
		
00:51:03 --> 00:51:07
			sallam said, Allah looks at your
heart more than your appearances,
		
00:51:07 --> 00:51:12
			including even the words, so don't
be stuck with the words.
		
00:51:13 --> 00:51:16
			Meaning now we should pour our
heart before Allah.
		
00:51:18 --> 00:51:23
			Understand, of course, then he
also comes to the conclusion how
		
00:51:23 --> 00:51:28
			then Musar Islam approach this
sharper than already yours a
		
00:51:28 --> 00:51:30
			Sunday transcended from that
phase,
		
00:51:31 --> 00:51:33
			he has gained a better
		
00:51:34 --> 00:51:37
			awareness of Allah subhanaw taala.
So he realized Allah is more than
		
00:51:37 --> 00:51:43
			that. So meaning why these things
may be allies, just like Allah has
		
00:51:43 --> 00:51:48
			sending so many ropes from the
heaven, helping people to get to
		
00:51:48 --> 00:51:48
			him.
		
00:51:49 --> 00:51:56
			So this means the or devices. So
for person, what's important is
		
00:51:56 --> 00:52:00
			turning your heart to Allah. Then
Allah well, even though you
		
00:52:00 --> 00:52:05
			started out with a bad, you know,
little ignorant, ignorance, you
		
00:52:05 --> 00:52:10
			were ignorant. But then because
Allah opens your heart, you will
		
00:52:10 --> 00:52:15
			gain a higher awareness. And then
you will know, this is exactly
		
00:52:15 --> 00:52:20
			what you see, among the spiritual
practitioners in Islamic
		
00:52:20 --> 00:52:20
			tradition.
		
00:52:21 --> 00:52:24
			They don't have much theological
knowledge.
		
00:52:25 --> 00:52:29
			But then because of their
practice, connection with Allah
		
00:52:29 --> 00:52:34
			subhanaw taala, the kind of words
that come out, kind of works they
		
00:52:34 --> 00:52:35
			have produced
		
00:52:36 --> 00:52:42
			as a more a better understanding
and awareness of the majesty and
		
00:52:42 --> 00:52:45
			glory of Allah then those of
jurists themselves, to understand
		
00:52:46 --> 00:52:51
			that's what we that Rumi is
pointing out because these people
		
00:52:51 --> 00:52:56
			were suffering from this
literalism so they he calls it
		
00:52:56 --> 00:53:01
			habit and ritual, Islam is WebU
reduced to habits and rituals.
		
00:53:03 --> 00:53:05
			Our hearts are not awake.
		
00:53:06 --> 00:53:10
			They are live Allah taka in the
Quran about against heedlessness
		
00:53:13 --> 00:53:20
			heedlessness so we need to get rid
of that heedlessness, God is near
		
00:53:20 --> 00:53:25
			I am closer to you than your own
jugular vein. So this is the kind
		
00:53:25 --> 00:53:26
			of okay so
		
00:53:29 --> 00:53:33
			you read in the Hadith of the
Prophet Wallah, Grandma, grandma
		
00:53:33 --> 00:53:37
			the love of the and make my love
for the greater than my love for
		
00:53:37 --> 00:53:42
			myself and greater than my love
for everything else, including my
		
00:53:42 --> 00:53:47
			love for water on a trusty day of
the of the summer or summer. You
		
00:53:47 --> 00:53:51
			see, so if you look at it, this
		
00:53:53 --> 00:53:58
			what the meaning of this prophetic
prayer? That's what
		
00:53:59 --> 00:54:04
			Rumi puts it in so many words. He
says, As soon my two eyes shut
		
00:54:04 --> 00:54:08
			from desires for this world and
the next, this I learned from
		
00:54:08 --> 00:54:08
			Muhammad,
		
00:54:10 --> 00:54:12
			meaning what you have to
		
00:54:14 --> 00:54:19
			leave your obsession with this
world and desires. Of course, he
		
00:54:19 --> 00:54:24
			is not preaching for us to
renounce the world. Now another
		
00:54:24 --> 00:54:29
			because our office, you know,
disciples, they were artisans said
		
00:54:29 --> 00:54:33
			about them that they will be
baking the bread and their face
		
00:54:33 --> 00:54:38
			will be ready and smiling and at
peace because they are engaged in
		
00:54:38 --> 00:54:39
			liquor.
		
00:54:40 --> 00:54:45
			They are always in liquor. So
people explain to people who
		
00:54:45 --> 00:54:51
			traveled to Turkey and and dealt
with these people who were
		
00:54:51 --> 00:54:56
			influenced by the teachings of
Rumi, then notice this thing. So
		
00:54:56 --> 00:55:00
			he uses out of the toolkit at his
disposal. Do
		
00:55:00 --> 00:55:02
			have knowledge of the Quran,
Hadith stories of prophets and
		
00:55:02 --> 00:55:05
			saints, Islamic theology,
philosophy, Arabic literature,
		
00:55:06 --> 00:55:10
			nature and observation, because we
observe keen observer of nature
		
00:55:11 --> 00:55:15
			and every single thing in nature
uses it
		
00:55:16 --> 00:55:18
			as a bait to get people to Allah.
		
00:55:20 --> 00:55:26
			He tells us about spring, in the
spring is a sign of resurrection.
		
00:55:27 --> 00:55:32
			For somebody who doesn't believe
in resurrection, it says, look at
		
00:55:32 --> 00:55:38
			the world what was there? This
Earth was dead. Now is cutting
		
00:55:38 --> 00:55:43
			with life. You see, and this is
the way he is teaching.
		
00:55:44 --> 00:55:49
			And how do we get this love of
Allah subhanaw taala the Quran and
		
00:55:49 --> 00:55:54
			following the footsteps of the
Prophet, flee to God's Quran, take
		
00:55:54 --> 00:55:58
			refuge in it there with the
spirits of the prophets marriage.
		
00:55:59 --> 00:56:04
			Okay, they met okay, this poetry
actually the book conveys the
		
00:56:04 --> 00:56:09
			perfect circumstances, those fish
of the pure sea of majesty. Okay,
		
00:56:09 --> 00:56:15
			it's poetic language actually. So
he warned us not to walk away from
		
00:56:15 --> 00:56:20
			the Quran. But there is the only
way to gain divine love free to
		
00:56:20 --> 00:56:21
			the Quran
		
00:56:22 --> 00:56:22
			and
		
00:56:25 --> 00:56:29
			harmonize your spirit with the
spirit of the prophets. Okay.
		
00:56:33 --> 00:56:36
			You know, I'm quoting some of
these in order to refute this idea
		
00:56:36 --> 00:56:42
			that Rumi was not a believer in
Quran or follower of Rasulullah
		
00:56:42 --> 00:56:46
			said Rumi statement. Muhammad
brought many items in the world so
		
00:56:46 --> 00:56:51
			that religious communities were
saying all our sustaining role,
		
00:56:52 --> 00:56:53
			you understand?
		
00:56:54 --> 00:56:57
			If it had not been for mamas
efforts,
		
00:56:58 --> 00:57:03
			you would have worship riders like
your ancestors. This head of yours
		
00:57:03 --> 00:57:07
			has escaped from prostrating to
idols, so that you may recognize
		
00:57:07 --> 00:57:11
			his claim of gratitude upon the
religious community. So if you
		
00:57:11 --> 00:57:16
			speak talk about gratitude for
this liberation, so that he may
		
00:57:16 --> 00:57:21
			also free you from the invalid
holder. You see, is he getting
		
00:57:21 --> 00:57:26
			away people away from the Quran,
or deeper into the Quran? Actually
		
00:57:26 --> 00:57:29
			is getting people deeper into the
Quran?
		
00:57:31 --> 00:57:34
			The light of Monmouth does not
abandon Arabs or Austrian or Jew
		
00:57:34 --> 00:57:39
			in the world. May the shade of his
good fortune shine upon everyone
		
00:57:40 --> 00:57:44
			he brings out of those who are led
astray into the way out of the
		
00:57:44 --> 00:57:44
			desert.
		
00:57:45 --> 00:57:48
			Meaning what is he say?
		
00:57:50 --> 00:57:56
			He says or Austrian need Mohammed
Junius. Mohammed is not saying
		
00:57:56 --> 00:57:59
			that Zoroastrian Jew doesn't need
more ml.
		
00:58:00 --> 00:58:04
			Rather what he's saying, Whoever
you are, come,
		
00:58:05 --> 00:58:09
			wander idolater worshipper of fire
come even though you have broken
		
00:58:09 --> 00:58:13
			your walls 1000 times come and
come yet again. Ours is not a
		
00:58:13 --> 00:58:16
			caravan of despair. Of course the
hope is where
		
00:58:18 --> 00:58:24
			in Mohammed Salah Islam is the
guide. Quran is the guide. So
		
00:58:24 --> 00:58:29
			Quran says that it is a mercy.
It's Rasul Allah is a mercy for
		
00:58:29 --> 00:58:34
			the entire world. How is a mercy?
So he is saying he is a mercy for
		
00:58:34 --> 00:58:39
			Christian is a mercy for the Jew.
Not that they remain Christian.
		
00:58:41 --> 00:58:46
			They come to Allah. That's what
he's saying. So how people miss
		
00:58:46 --> 00:58:52
			him a bit. You know, Ruby today is
the most admired poet in America.
		
00:58:52 --> 00:58:57
			He is popularized by poets like
he's a professor of poetry and
		
00:58:57 --> 00:58:59
			literature. Corbin barks.
		
00:59:01 --> 00:59:07
			Coleman Barks have produced so
many works on Rumi, Robert Bly and
		
00:59:07 --> 00:59:11
			even the by the New Age, apostate
apostles like Deepak Chopra.
		
00:59:13 --> 00:59:16
			Of course, he's from Singapore,
Madonna and Oprah Winfrey and
		
00:59:16 --> 00:59:21
			countless others are strapped for
Allah, you know, because they take
		
00:59:21 --> 00:59:26
			some words and and run with it is
thinking that is what is preaching
		
00:59:27 --> 00:59:32
			for Allah. But, but we have to
know that he is the most misquoted
		
00:59:32 --> 00:59:33
			and misunderstood
		
00:59:34 --> 00:59:39
			you know, poet, because they take
his words after context
		
00:59:46 --> 00:59:51
			there are countless quotations and
evidences in his works, which
		
00:59:51 --> 00:59:57
			scholars come out typically shows
you know, how deeply
		
00:59:59 --> 00:59:59
			fun grounds
		
01:00:00 --> 01:00:04
			He's in Islam and Quran and Hadith
of the prophets of Allah Islam.
		
01:00:05 --> 01:00:09
			You know, because many of these
people don't know what hadith is
		
01:00:09 --> 01:00:10
			all about.
		
01:00:12 --> 01:00:18
			So, you know, I have spent all my
life in Quran and Hadees and
		
01:00:18 --> 01:00:19
			faker.
		
01:00:21 --> 01:00:24
			Almost every poem I read in Rumi
		
01:00:27 --> 01:00:32
			his either paraphrasing a Hadith
of the Prophet, or inferring a
		
01:00:32 --> 01:00:34
			lesson from the Hadith of the
Prophet.
		
01:00:36 --> 01:00:41
			Sometimes he called the Prophet
directly many times, hundreds of
		
01:00:41 --> 01:00:44
			hundreds of times he quotes
directly the prophet, but other
		
01:00:44 --> 01:00:48
			times he doesn't quote it, but
it's already there that is
		
01:00:48 --> 01:00:54
			paraphrased in his own words. And
the same thing with the Quran or
		
01:00:54 --> 01:00:57
			he says works are full of
quotations from the Koran all
		
01:00:57 --> 01:01:01
			sorts of people quote him new age
group free thinkers, gay
		
01:01:01 --> 01:01:06
			activists, and even atheists and
rationalist you know, why they
		
01:01:06 --> 01:01:10
			want to project their own
subjective ideas onto his poems.
		
01:01:11 --> 01:01:15
			Especially the his hymns on demand
in Lao have been turned into a
		
01:01:15 --> 01:01:19
			celebration of Eros. This erotic
love
		
01:01:20 --> 01:01:26
			actually is no talking about
erotic Lao is talking about divine
		
01:01:26 --> 01:01:26
			love.
		
01:01:27 --> 01:01:33
			But of course they they want to
detach you from base deep Islamic
		
01:01:33 --> 01:01:33
			roots
		
01:01:36 --> 01:01:39
			Okay, you want Why am I going for
fast?
		
01:01:56 --> 01:01:59
			There is nothing farther from the
truth as Rumi was a devout Muslim
		
01:01:59 --> 01:02:04
			as strict for our of the Quran and
the Sunnah. It said that in his
		
01:02:04 --> 01:02:08
			deep conversation with shamsudeen
		
01:02:09 --> 01:02:13
			One day they missed Jama in the
masjid
		
01:02:14 --> 01:02:16
			one time on prayer.
		
01:02:18 --> 01:02:25
			And they made up for it. So you
see how otherwise he was always
		
01:02:25 --> 01:02:28
			praying in the masjid and
attending Jama.
		
01:02:31 --> 01:02:35
			He followed the Sunnah of the
Prophet diligently. He said I am
		
01:02:35 --> 01:02:40
			the servant of the Quran as long
as I have a life, I am the destiny
		
01:02:40 --> 01:02:44
			on the part of Muhammad the chosen
one if anyone costs anything
		
01:02:44 --> 01:02:49
			except this from my sayings, cut
off him and outrage by these
		
01:02:49 --> 01:02:54
			words, you know, you understand.
So you see how, of course this is
		
01:02:54 --> 01:02:58
			just one quotation of course,
there is no need for us.
		
01:02:59 --> 01:03:00
			To
		
01:03:02 --> 01:03:08
			all of those who have studied him
deeply have establishes a thorough
		
01:03:09 --> 01:03:11
			grounding in Islam and Islamic
faith.
		
01:03:13 --> 01:03:14
			But
		
01:03:27 --> 01:03:30
			muscle memory contains anecdotes
and stories derived largely from
		
01:03:30 --> 01:03:33
			the Quran and the Hadith as well
as everyday tales. One of the
		
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			greatest living other witches and
Rumi ha the hiree has shown that
		
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			some 6000 verses of the one and
the mercenary are practically
		
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			direct translation of Quranic
verse into poetry.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Of course, then, I already
mentioned about the Hadith itself,
		
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			because many of these people they
are not trained in, in Hadith,
		
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			they may read the Quran, but
Hadees itself is another ocean. So
		
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			if you are deeply familiar with
the Hadith, you will see most of
		
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			these parables and stories that
Rumi quotes from the Hadith
		
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			literature actually.
		
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			Now you should know that Muhammad
is the leader and guide. As long
		
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			as you don't come to Muhammad
fest. You won't reach us be among
		
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			a community of believers who are
blessed by Divine Mercy. Don't
		
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			abandon the way of conduct of
Muhammad, but be governed by it.
		
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			No.
		
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			Look at the director, words from
Rumi how he attaches. Of course
		
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			there are countless statements
like that scattered throughout his
		
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			work that
		
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			now I have
		
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			All because this thing is a wash
topic.
		
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			What is the influence of grooming?
		
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			Believe me, according to my study,
now I have a phone no one who has
		
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			brought people to Allah more than
Romi
		
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			no other Muslim thinker or scholar
or jurists
		
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			have influenced have such
influence.
		
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			There is no shortage of those who
have been transformed by the
		
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			message of Rumi. Many of them are
embracing Islam, the French
		
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			professor of philosophy will deal
with three. She called herself
		
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			have actually, because that is the
French
		
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			II we evil. He was Hawa actually,
she was a rationalist who had no
		
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			faith either born born into a
Catholic family, she lost his
		
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			faith. Then she happened to read
the dissertation of Dr. Escobar.
		
01:06:02 --> 01:06:05
			And his work on reconstruction of
religious thought in Islam.
		
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			And through his work,
		
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			she discovered Rumi and then she
studied Rumi, she regained her
		
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			faith embraced Islam, and, and of
course devoted the rest of her
		
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			life to work, putting out works on
Islam, inviting people to Islam.
		
01:06:26 --> 01:06:32
			And of course, she has a work on
called prayer in Islam. And she
		
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			also made the Basia that when she
dies, she should be buried in
		
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			cornea.
		
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			Okay, and of course, we have Kabir
and kabylia, Hamas, Ki, Abraham
		
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			Gamar. All of these were
		
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			Americans, this, Kabir and they
were all Americans, studying
		
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			Islam, born into a Christian
background, they embrace Islam.
		
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			And of course, these are the
people who really represent the
		
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			real legacy of Rumi, and, you
know, doctrinaire Cabal, the poet
		
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			philosopher of Islam,
		
01:07:09 --> 01:07:11
			considered him as his mentor.
		
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			A cabal was
		
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			completely immersed in philosophy,
especially the rational
		
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			philosophy, he lost his faith in
Islam.
		
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			Then he came back to Islam through
		
01:07:29 --> 01:07:34
			to Rumi. So what a great
influence. And he said, as long as
		
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			you have Rumi as your mentor, you
will never be lost. Meaning
		
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			because he gave
		
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			all of his synthesizing and trying
to reconcile reason, Revelation
		
01:07:46 --> 01:07:51
			and intuition, and placing
revelation and usually higher than
		
01:07:51 --> 01:07:56
			reason, because the greatest
threat to humanity is when
		
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			praising reason about Revelation.
So Rumi, that's how room is
		
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			successful. It does it.
orientations, chairs, Nicholson
		
01:08:04 --> 01:08:09
			and arbery, openly admitted I have
this work, and preface in this
		
01:08:09 --> 01:08:14
			work before he doth put out this
preface. arbery said I had lost my
		
01:08:14 --> 01:08:20
			faith in God Almighty. But then
after immersing himself
		
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			in the study of Rumi, he regained
his faith in God. And the same way
		
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			Nicholson of course, after many
years of study, it completely
		
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			transformed. Now the soccer they
also called for an army of
		
01:08:35 --> 01:08:40
			scholars to undertake deeper study
of Romi to serve as an antidote to
		
01:08:40 --> 01:08:45
			the rampant materialism are going
to agnosticism chipping away faith
		
01:08:45 --> 01:08:45
			in God.
		
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			You see how the influence of this
person is?
		
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			Now I have discussion.
		
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			So the interest in Romi you see
how Allah subhanaw taala works?
		
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			Is there is people here are so
much against Islam and Muslims.
		
01:09:06 --> 01:09:13
			Allah has his own way. You know,
Allah is your room, he is to what
		
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			to turn people who are away from
Islam, just either tone down their
		
01:09:20 --> 01:09:24
			imagery of or trying to undress,
make them understand. And many of
		
01:09:24 --> 01:09:29
			them convert to Islam, through
Rumi, if even if they don't
		
01:09:29 --> 01:09:33
			convert to Islam, they have a
better appreciation of the depth
		
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			of Islam. And that's what you see
the depth of this.
		
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			The people who read Rumi have
already. So now at the same time,
		
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			there is no shortage of Muslims,
who could consider Rumi as a
		
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			heretic.
		
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			The point to the summer and
worrying dance rituals associated
		
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			with his name. Now
		
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			there is no doubt
		
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			Oh
		
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			my
		
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			god
		
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			I should have gotten
		
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			my dog was Hello
		
01:10:40 --> 01:10:40
			Shannon
		
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			she had to run her mother masu
		
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			Can you hear us
		
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			okay he
		
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			he further
		
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			along with buffalo medulla
		
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			there is no doubt that his
understanding of Islam is
		
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			different from the understanding
of many Muslims today because many
		
01:12:00 --> 01:12:05
			of us just look at the
jurisprudence and the outward
		
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			rituals and dogmas. And we fail to
recognize the spiritual aspect,
		
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			the inner depth of so
		
01:12:18 --> 01:12:23
			So definitely we will our
judgment, we will rush to judge
		
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			some of these practices completely
honest Slavic. Whereas, of course
		
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			they do we'll be honest lambing,
somebody thinks that the way to
		
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			worship Allah is through wedding
dance.
		
01:12:35 --> 01:12:40
			That is not what they thought
actually they were our people who
		
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			prayed five times a day till our
butt, they dancing Joy actually,
		
01:12:46 --> 01:12:50
			dancing itself is not forbidden in
Islam. Were they men and women
		
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			dancing together there? No, it's
men dancing. And of course women
		
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			may be dancing by themselves Rasul
Allah allowed this other seniors
		
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			to dance in the masjid, isn't it?
So, they are expressing their job
		
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			of, of discovering Allah subhanaw
taala in this way, because some
		
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			jurists may find fault with it,
but they are not considering it.
		
01:13:14 --> 01:13:18
			Dispense at the expense of the
Salah as considering it as sunnah
		
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			that people should follow. If they
did that, definitely it's heresy.
		
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			If somebody thinks in order to
become Muslim, you have to dance.
		
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			And that's a form of worship in
Islam, of course, then that is
		
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			heretical idea or whatever. But,
so you should not we should not
		
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			rush to condemn this. As long as
these people were really devote
		
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			people, even Ibrahim Dharma Dharma
and I mentioned, and all those
		
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			people who, who went and practice
this, they are sheiks. Now, they
		
01:13:52 --> 01:13:56
			say whenever they go there, this
people who participate in this,
		
01:13:56 --> 01:13:58
			they are prey.
		
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			And even some of them 99 year old,
he is observant of prayer, he
		
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			cannot get to the masjid but
following the Jama as it is taking
		
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			place in the masjid in his home,
because he cannot you see her so
		
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			they were very particular they are
not saying that this dance
		
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			replaces salah. I don't know if if
that is so but so those who who
		
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			are scholars who look at it
objectively, they consider Romeo's
		
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			greatest one of the greatest
exponents of Islamic spirituality.
		
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			And
		
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			everyone this Muslim scholars as
normal scholars say his message is
		
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			highly relevant today. In a in a
because we have this religious
		
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			tension and rivalry. People of
different religions. You know,
		
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			Rumi's messages. Come back to
Allah subhanaw taala
		
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			didn't Allah say tabula Calima or
people of the book come to the
		
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			thing that
		
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			It's common to us what is that?
Allah?
		
01:15:04 --> 01:15:07
			So Allah is common to so come to
Allah.
		
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			And let's discuss our differences
then come back to Allah subhanaw
		
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			taala This is the message of Rumi
May Allah subhanaw taala have
		
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			mercy on him May Allah subhanaw
taala inspire us to love Allah to
		
01:15:19 --> 01:15:23
			Allah His messenger and to allow
those who love the messenger of
		
01:15:23 --> 01:15:27
			Allah and the Prophet. And may
Allah increase our love for
		
01:15:27 --> 01:15:31
			actions and words that will bring
us closer to the level philosopher
		
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			Donatella Kula COVID Johanna was
tabula. So next week, Inshallah,
		
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			half an hour before he will have
the class only for next week. I
		
01:15:40 --> 01:15:44
			hope you understand, you know, 11
fortify, we start next week and
		
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			shall and we will stop at one. By
the way I'm going to talk about
		
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			Ibn Taymiyyah is a different
personality altogether. But of
		
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			course, he's also a great Muslim
and theologian and jurist as
		
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			Salaam Alaikum Warahmatullahi
Wabarakatuh