Adnan Rashid – Qadianis Weak Arguments Are Refuted
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The speakers discuss various prophecies and their potential impact on people, including the presence of the plague, the plague, and the Kuffar. They also talk about the use of the Quran and Hadith against people and encourage others to read the Quran and discuss the belief of Zilli and Bur anniversary. They end with a plan to finish the night and wait for everyone to come in.
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Osama, you're next.
You need to unmute yourself.
Yeah, Assalamu Alaikum.
Okay, I'll go quickly here.
As I know you guys have stipulated two
minutes, which we did not do on our
stream.
But in any case, Muhammad-e-Bagham, they
were families of the Prophet ﷺ, and they
were staunch opponents of Islam and Muhammad ﷺ.
They used to curse the Prophet ﷺ himself.
In any case, this was a prophecy to
help have them repent and come back to
Islam and to come back to the Prophet
ﷺ.
And then the Prophet ﷺ himself said, in
the prophecy, he says, لَا أُهْلِكُمْ تُفْعَةً وَاحِدًا
بَلْقَلِيلًا قَلِيلًا لَعَلَّهُمْ يَرْجِعُونَ وَيَكُونُونَ مِنَ الْتَوَابِينَ
that I will not humiliate them or strike
them in one strike, but rather gradually so
that they may return and become of those
who repent.
So clearly, repentance is part of this prophecy.
So let's go to that real quick.
Mirza Ahmad Bey, who is the father of
Muhammad-e-Bagham, did not marry Muhammad-e
-Bagham to the Prophet ﷺ.
As is clear, he married to Mirza Sultan
on April of 1892.
He died five months later, and everyone in
the family repented, especially Mirza Sultan Ahmad, who
was the husband of Muhammad-e-Bagham.
Now it's very clear that he repented because
later on he writes in Al-Fazl, in
our newspapers, he said, I have received your
request.
I am grateful that you remember me.
I consider the late respected Mirza Sahib, and
I still do, to be a holy man,
a servant of Islam, of noble character and
devout.
Then he also writes that the state of
my heart can be determined by the fact
that at the time of his prophecy, of
this prophecy...
Al-Fazl, sorry, just to understand, is Al
-Fazl a Qadiani newspaper?
Yes.
Can I just do it once again?
The state of my heart, he writes, Mirza
Sultan Ahmad, who is the individual, the one
who married Muhammad-e-Bagham, he says the
state of my heart can be determined by
the fact that at the time of this
prophecy, the Aryas and the Christians wished to
hand me a hundred thousand rupees so that
I would issue a statement against Mirza Sahib.
Had I taken that money, I could have
become a rich man.
But it was that very faith and belief
which prohibited me from this act.
So it's clear that Mirza Sultan Ahmad realized
that this prophecy had become true and he
had repented.
Now, moreover, how is this clear?
It says, it's clear from the evidence that
my wife, and I'll tell you, the individual
who accepted from the Ahmadiyat, from the family
of Muhammad-e-Bagham, number one, the wife
of Mirza Ahmad-e-Bagham, who is the
mother of Muhammad-e-Bagham, she accepted Ahmadiyat.
She accepted Mirza Ghulam Ahmad-e-Islam.
Why would the mother accept?
Secondly, there's the sister of Muhammad-e-Bagham,
Inayat-e-Bagham, who also accepted.
There's the grandson of Mirza Ahmad-e-Bagham
who accepted.
Okay, your time is up, Osama.
There's just one last thing, just one last
thing, Hashim Bhai.
Now, I think Razi Baha had mentioned this
as well, that these have a mashrut, there
are shurut.
This is Tafseer-e-Baydawi, بِأَنَّ وَعِيدَ الْفُسَّاقِ
مَشْرُوطٌ بِعَدْ مِلْأَفْمِ Right?
And this was clear from earlier, that he
did not لا أُهْلِكُمْ دُفْعَةً وَاحِدًا بَلْ قَلِيلًا
قَلِيلًا لَعَلَّهُمْ يَرْجِعُونَ That the whole goal of
this prophecy was to have these people return
to Islam, return to the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu
Alaihi Wasallam, because they used to be atheists,
and they used to curse the Prophet Sallallahu
Alaihi Wasallam.
JazakAllah.
Okay, Imtiaz Bhai, go ahead.
Okay, so inshallah, just to make it simple
for the people, whatever he said that, you
know, the family of Muhammad-e-Bagham accepted,
it's all red herring.
Now, please listen to the point carefully.
So the gist of the point he made,
and all the Jama'at makes, that after
the death of father, because Sultan Bey, sorry,
Ahmad Bey, the father of the girls, Muhammad
-e-Bagham, he died six months after the
marriage.
Okay, this thing happened.
Even though I don't want to go on
that tangent, that it still did not fulfill
the prophecy.
Okay, anybody has to die.
The prophecy was, the son will die first,
and the father will die after.
This was the prophecy.
Just death is not a prophecy for anybody.
Anybody has to die anyways.
And I have the reference that when Mirza
was making this prophecy, he knew that Ahmad
-e-Bagham was very sick.
He was almost choking.
He knew that he's sick, he will die
in three years.
I can produce the evidence on this one,
but that's not the topic.
The topic is this.
If they have repented, because Ahmadi claims that
after the death of Ahmad-e-Bagham, which
was just six months, which means around 1892,
this family has repented, and they have done
their tawbah.
And because of their repentance, and because of
their tawbah, everything was cancelled.
Is it the claim of Usama?
Just to clarify before I answer.
Yes, they have repented.
The shurut had been met, and so the
prophecy was fulfilled.
When were the shurut met?
Please tell us.
In which year?
Usama.
As soon as the father of Ahmad-e
-Bagham died.
Mirza Sultan, the husband of Ahmad-e-Bagham
died.
Sorry, he repented.
Okay.
Now look at this one.
Let me give you a very simple way
to disprove this.
I'm going to give you the reference that
Mirza, up till 1905, 1905, almost 17 years
after, yes, almost, he is still saying that
I am going to marry Muhammad-e-Bagham,
number one.
He said that this is taqdeer-e-mubram.
It's the destiny.
It's not taqdeer-e-mawlak.
Please pay attention.
Then he explains that taqdeer-e-mubram cannot
be changed.
He said this part of the prophecy is
taqdeer-e-mubram.
It cannot be changed, number one.
Number two, he said these are the kalimaat
of Allah.
These are the words of Allah.
If these words will change, then the kalam
of Allah will become batil, falsehood.
I will give you all of these references.
My brother, if family has already repented and
everything has already been cancelled in 1892, why
Mirza Sahib is preaching all of that up
till 1905?
Give me an answer.
And also, I have another question.
I want to add something very quickly.
If Sultan Muhammad has repented, why did he
not divorce Muhammad-e-Bagham?
And why is Mirza still lusting after Muhammad
-e-Bagham in 1905?
The question is very valid.
If this is true, and Usama, it is
true, that up to 1905, Mirza is still
lusting after Muhammad-e-Bagham, why did Sultan
Muhammad not divorce her and let her marry
this noble saint, as you claim that Sultan
Muhammad had these views about Mirza Ghulam-ul
-Karim?
Over to you.
Okay, sorry.
One second.
Listen, I just need the 1905 reference, please.
Okay, no worries.
Give me one second.
I'll give you the reference.
Put it up on the screen.
Put it up on the screen, please.
By the way, the Mubram is only if
he goes against the repentance.
The Mubram is always if Sultan Muhammad rejects
him.
That's the Mubram.
You know the conditions of repentance.
You know the conditions of repentance.
He clearly repented.
Okay, no.
He clearly repented, as you claim.
He repented.
Repentance has conditions.
Number one, you stop the action.
Number two, you don't.
Number one, you are ashamed of your action.
Number two, you stop it.
Number three, you don't go back to it.
So, repentance for what?
Marrying a Muslim woman?
A Muslim man getting married to a Muslim
woman against the threats of a so-called
prophet?
Wait.
If they actually believed in his prophecies and
his prophethood, they would never dare get married
to each other.
So now after the father died, you're claiming
he repented.
So that repentance should have constituted the marriage
of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani and we have
shown already that Mirza was so desperate, so
desperate to get this done that he was
threatening his son, he was threatening his daughter
-in-law, he was threatening the mother of
his daughter-in-law, the father of his
daughter-in-law, he was threatening the father
of the girl.
He used anything at his means to get
this done, but it never happened.
Okay, can I speak?
Okay.
Can I go?
Okay, look, I think we're going to go
back and forth.
It's going to be really, you know, this
word, that word, this year, that year.
What's the waqf?
What happened?
The family of Mohammadi Begum accepted, and I'll
tell you, my wife, her extended family are
descendants of Mohammadi Begum themselves.
So why would they accept Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
Qadiani?
How would they accept?
How is this?
How is this an argument?
Okay, Mirza Ghulam, wait, wait, wait.
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani's own son did not
believe in him.
He didn't praise Janazah.
Now what?
Now what are you going to do?
He did believe in him.
Why did Mirza not praise Janazah?
He did believe in him afterwards.
Listen, though, I'm asking you a question.
Why did Mirza not praise Janazah?
No, Adnan, listen to me.
Osama, let's come on the topic.
Yeah, let's come on the topic, yes.
Please, Osama, note down all the references, okay?
And then you can check every single one
of them.
The reference, which is for 1905, it is
Al-Hakam, which is the literature of the
Jamaat, authentic literature, 30th June 1905, and I
have the original scan of this paper.
Al-Hakam.
Can you put it up?
Can you put it up?
Yes.
Please.
We're going to show it to you.
Yes, no problem.
And there goes your repentance claim.
So, if Mirza is still lusting after Mohammadi
Begum in 1905, where's the repentance in this?
Can you see the screen, brothers?
Yeah.
There you go.
Okay.
Okay, 1905.
There you go.
Yeah.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Yes.
Arabic
Arabic
Arabic
Arabic Arabic Arabic
Arabic
Arabic Yes,
because Muhammadi was from our Akariba, in fact
from a close family, that is, my uncle
was the daughter of my cousin, and on
the other side, in a close relationship, my
uncle was the daughter of my brother, that
is, Ahmed Beg.
So, in this case, the meaning of rejection
came in accordance with the fact that first
she was with us, and then she left
and got married in the town of Patti.
And the promise is that she will return
from the marriage, so it will be so.
So, Mirza Sahib, in 1905, is saying that
Muhammadi Begum will physically come back to him.
She has physically left the family.
She will come back to me, and my
enemies will be disgraced, i.e. Sultan Muhammad,
who married her.
So, where's the repentance?
So, this is a lie made up by
the Ahmadiyya Jama'at to save Mirza from
rebuke and ridicule.
Okay.
Can I go now?
No, no, no.
No, no.
It's your time.
I'll give you time.
No problem.
Do you need the reference from 1907 as
well?
I have that one as well.
Yeah, put it up.
Put it up, please.
Put it up.
This is history in the making.
We're not sitting here.
We're not sitting here.
Just to have chats.
While he pulls it up, can I speak?
Yeah, you can speak while he posts this.
Go ahead.
Okay, thank you.
So, this is all conditional.
It's all conditional.
You guys are repeating these quotes and reading
them in order to start…
Where's the condition?
The condition was…
No, no.
Where's the condition?
The condition was, if any of them, if
they repent, then the prophecy will be fulfilled.
And Mirza Sultan repented because your own ulama
tried to bribe him to issue a statement
against Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Al-Islam.
But the individual realized that the prophecy had
been fulfilled.
Osama, did you not listen to the quote?
Give me two minutes.
When the father-in-law had been killed
within five months of the prophecy, it had
been fulfilled.
It was mubram.
It was conditional.
And the conditions were met.
They repented.
They stopped doing tawheed of Muhammad ﷺ.
If they repented, then there was no need
to do the nikah.
The nikah was done.
It's completed.
There was no need.
The individual, the family as a whole, as
a unit, repented.
That's why the mother of Muhammad-e-Begum,
the son of Muhammad-e-Begum, they both
accepted Islam Ahmadiyya and Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Al
-Islam.
And I can tell you from personal sahaja
that my wife's descendant family, some of them
are descendants of Muhammad-e-Begum themselves.
You're repeating yourself.
Stop it.
Stop it.
Hashim, he's repeating himself.
Adnan, please allow me.
Yes.
Adnan, please allow me to say something.
Yes.
Brothers and sisters in humanity, Ahmadiyya community, please
pay attention.
It is being said that after the death
of Ahmad-e-Beg, the family repented.
Now, because I want you to go one
by one.
Listen everybody carefully.
I have the reference ready.
Mirza Sahib said that the repentance is that
what this person is doing, whatever his fault
is, he basically comes back to Allah and
leaves that thing.
And I have the reference that this is
what is meant by tauba or rujoo and
we all know this anyways.
Now, I have the second reference.
Please pay attention, Adnan bhai.
I have a second reference.
Mirza Sahib has clearly said that the fault
or sin of Sultan Ahmad is that he
married to Muhammad-e-Begum despite we giving
him all of these prophecies.
So this was the fault or the sin.
So the rujoo from this sin is he
must divorce Muhammad-e-Begum only then it
can be repentance.
Now, I can give you both references.
Number one, according to Mirza, repentance means leave
that thing and come back.
Number two, according to Mirza, the sin or
the fault of Sultan Ahmad is he married
to Muhammad-e-Begum.
How can you say he repented?
Point number one, please listen very carefully.
Point number two, brother, please use your mind
on the brothers.
If the family has already repented in 1892
-93 and Mirza is saying the same thing
in 1907, does it make any sense to
you?
It makes sense to the Ahmadis.
It makes sense to the Ahmadis.
It makes sense.
It makes a lot of sense to the
Ahmadis.
Okay.
Now, Osama please address this point.
Osama please address this point.
Number one, prove to us, prove to us
because the repentance means that whatever sin you're
committing, you have to abandon that.
Can you put up 1907 reference?
1907 reference.
I put already.
And second point, very important point, as long
as Mirza was alive, he kept saying this,
that I will marry Muhammad-e-Begum.
But obviously, we all know in 1908, he
died.
He did not marry.
And that is very important point.
And guess what?
I have a complete list of references.
Please pay attention, everybody.
Mirza Sahib said, if family will repent, the
only thing that can happen is delay.
But he said that this prophecy cannot be
cancelled.
Why?
He said that if it is cancelled, the
Kalam of Allah becomes Batil and the Kalimat
of Allah will be changed and Takdir-e
-Mubram will be changed.
I can give you, Osama, please listen.
Mirza Sahib said, if as a result of
repentance, the only thing that can happen is
a delay, not cancellation.
Can I speak now?
Over to you, Osama.
Okay.
So again, this is very clear.
Even at the life of the promised Messiah
-e-Islam, this was brought up.
He said that if you think that this
prophecy was not fulfilled, then have Sultan issue
a statement against me.
And that is what your ulema tried to
do at that time.
They had to try to bribe him to
make a statement against Mirza Ghulam Ahmad-e
-Islam.
And it was only Mubram if he goes
against the repentance.
How would Mirza Ghulam Ahmad-e-Islam know
if he was going to repent exactly or
not?
How would he know that?
He could take back the stance of repentance
as well.
So he issued a statement to him and
said, look, all you have to do is
issue a statement saying that I am a
liar.
Mirza was saying that Muhammad-e-Bakr will
get married to him.
Where is the shirk?
The shirk is if they repent.
And they repented.
The repentance is clear from the fact that
the repentance is clear.
The repentance is clear.
The repentance is clear by Mirza Sultan not
issuing a statement even at the behest of
getting $100,000.
How can someone not issuing a statement?
He was offered $100,000 and said that
he would not issue a statement.
Why would he not do it?
Where is the evidence of that?
Where is the evidence of that?
We have it.
We'll give it to you.
Al-Fazl.
Al-Fazl.
Al-Fazl, right?
Sure.
Al-Fazl?
Al-Fazl, right?
No.
Your own ulama bribed him, but he wouldn't
repent.
He wouldn't write a statement.
Show us the reference.
Let's see the reference.
Let's see the reference.
One second.
One second.
Can you put up 1907?
1907.
Have you got the reference for 1907?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I put it.
No problem.
Yes.
Okay, Osama.
You have reference?
It's from Al-Fazl.
Okay.
Al-Fazl is a Qadiani newspaper.
Why would we trust the JAL's newspaper defending
the JAL?
Tell me.
Okay, if it was an independent, we are
using Mirza's own writings to show you that
he is the JAL.
He's a liar.
Okay, you're going to bring a Qadiani source
to me, claiming that money was offered to
Sultan Muhammad to write or make a statement
against Mirza and you want us to believe
it.
Bring an impartial source.
Bring an independent source.
That's when you claim from your ulama, I
asked you for the source.
You don't have it.
Okay.
So, you know, call batil.
We call it call batil.
Okay.
We don't accept it.
This is a false claim.
Do you have 1907 reference?
Listen, why would her own family accept Mirza
Ghulam Ahmad Al-Islam?
I'll answer that question.
Just like his own son, just like his
own son and many, wait, wait, wait, just
like his own son and many of his
relatives did not accept him, rejected him as
a kafir, as a disbeliever.
Many of his relatives, Mirza's, Baig's, okay, Mughal's,
many of his close relatives did not accept
him.
They called him a kafir.
Now what?
There goes your argument.
And they all died without progeny.
The progeny was not.
This is a red herring.
So, let's move on from here.
Please.
Very, very important point.
The people, the people who rejected the Promised
Messiah, that's not from his family, their progeny
did not proceed.
Yeah, you're just repeating yourself, Usama.
Is the red herring nothing to do with
the prophets here?
No, he's bringing it up.
I'm not bringing it up.
Please allow me to complete Usama.
Okay.
My brother Usama, please pay attention to this
one.
You are saying after the death of Ahmad
Baig, family repented.
I know all of those references.
I know all of, guess what, every single
letter is with me right now.
But I want to stick on the topic.
The topic is this.
Please pay attention.
This is a question.
Family has repented in 1892 and on 93
after the death of Ahmad Baig.
Fine.
Okay.
And because of that, look, when family has
repented, it means that now no punishment will
come on Sultan Baig, which means he will
not die, number one.
Number two, now Ahmadi Begum can never be
a widow.
As a result, she will never marry to
Mirza Sahib.
This was known to Mirza Sahib in 1893.
My question you're not addressing.
Up till 1907, Mirza is saying that she
will marry with me.
Please address this point.
Again, these are all misruth.
Right?
These are all misruth.
But guys, we're going back and forth.
You cannot say.
You cannot say.
We're going to have to run away from
this now.
Again, we're going to have to run away.
Tonight we've been running away.
We've been running away from Qadianis.
You've been running a lot, man.
Yeah, we are running a lot.
We've lost two calories tonight.
One final point.
Adnan, Adnan, one final point.
Just one final point, okay?
You cannot say that as long as the
Promised Messiah was alive, that he could go
against and make a statement.
Right?
The ulama at that time, they were silent.
You guys are bringing this up like 120
years later.
They were silent about this prophecy.
They were going to Mirza Sultan, trying to
beg him to issue a statement.
They were trying to bribe him, giving him
money.
But he wouldn't do it.
And then on top of that, the shahadah.
You're repeating yourself.
Okay, stop it now.
Stop it now.
We're going to have to be.
Just, just, just.
Yeah, I shall.
Just one, inshallah, brother.
And brother, please listen to this point, brother,
carefully.
You are not.
Maybe you are not willing to see this
point right now.
I can, I can understand that.
But my request to you is once you
go home, please sit down and think about
this point.
Number one, Sultan did not repent because his
fault, his sin was he married with Muhammad
and the repentance would be, leave her, divorce
her.
So there's no repentance.
Number one.
Number two, if you're trying to say that,
you know, it was all condition, etc, etc.
You are missing the point.
In 1907, as you know, volume 22 of
Ruhani Khazain, which is the last book in
that is Kitabul Wahi.
Okay.
This is the last writing.
In this last writing, Mirza Sahib is saying
it's only delayed.
It is only delayed.
Why?
He says because, because they repented.
And he was very consistent in saying this,
that because of their repentance, it can only
be delayed, but it has to happen.
If it will not happen, the Kalima of
Allah will change, the Kalam of Allah will
become.
But I have all of these references with
me right now.
So brother, please think about this.
Okay.
Can I just say one thing?
Okay.
No, no.
Wait.
Wait.
Stop now.
Stop.
Stop.
Osama, one second.
We're running away.
We're running.
Osama, we're running away.
Wait.
Stop.
We're going to do something else for you.
One second.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Can I just say one thing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Just very simple, right?
Like your ulama at that time couldn't convince
Mirza Sultan to come up with a statement,
right?
You're again quoting Al-Fazl, which is a
Qadiani source.
We do not take it.
We don't accept it.
His own family, Mirza Sultan, Mohammadi Bey.
His own son did not accept him.
His own son did not accept him.
Again, these are red herrings.
Guys, come on.
Let's move on from this.
We've been through this already.
Again, again.
Stop this.
Stop this.
I will say, I will say that Abdullah
Atam, Lake Ram, earthquake, and time of snake.
We can do perhaps next time.
It's been like- We can do all
of this next time.
I've promised the Muslims as well, they can
join in.
So we'll have to make time for them.
Okay, go ahead, Usama.
Make your request.
Basically, the prophecy about Abdullah Atam is Mirza
Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, he made another prophecy that
Abdullah Atam will die on a certain date,
and Abdullah Atam died two years after that
predicted date.
Okay.
So, and amazingly, whole of Qadian was made
- This is a Christian missionary, yeah?
Abdullah Atam- Christian missionary.
Christian missionary.
When Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani was debating him,
he made a prophecy that Abdullah Atam will
die on a certain date.
Okay.
And I don't remember the date, I can
actually read it very quickly, so that this
remains, you know, this stream is very long,
I know, but it becomes part of it,
it's recorded, so people can go and watch
it later on.
Can I just say one thing, Adnan, before
you leave?
Yeah, yeah.
Go on.
My request to you is, because if we
will touch it now, we won't be able
to give it its due right.
As Hashim brother said that we can, there
are four very important prophecies, one about earthquake,
one about the plague, one about Lekhram, one
about Abdullah Atam.
Whenever, inshallah, you guys like, we can do
a stream on this.
Let's do them in the next stream.
Let's do them in the next stream, Hashim.
Agreed?
And allow me- Can I just say
one thing?
Can I say one thing?
Okay.
Let Usama say the concluding remarks.
Yeah, yeah.
Shukran.
Hashim, thank you so much for allowing me.
Just give me like 10 seconds.
Again, you know, these prophecies that you guys
are focusing on, they're like few and far
between.
You're taking the, again, you know, the Muhkam
prophecies that, you know, are very clear.
You guys are running away from those.
And then the Mutashabihat that could have some
doubt in them, you guys are going towards
them, unfortunately.
Again, we go back.
Where are the Aqa'id?
Why, why are you like running away from
the Qur'an and Hadith?
Let's discuss the Qur'an and Hadith.
This is so simple.
It's so simple.
Like, like let the Qur'an be the
judge between us.
رَبَّنَا افْتَحْ بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَ قَوْمِنَا بِالْحَقِّ Let Allah
be the judge and his book be the
judge.
And of course, you guys don't want to
discuss, you know, the Aqa'id and you
want to run towards these things.
Okay.
Thank you.
I will quickly respond.
I'll quickly respond why we're running from the
Qur'an and Hadith.
I will respond.
We are running from the Qur'an and
Hadith is because we don't need the Qur
'an and Hadith to dismantle Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
Qadiani's false claim to prophethood because his own
writings condemn him, his own writings.
And that's why the Ahmadiyya Jama'at will
not indulge in these topics.
You will keep crying, victim.
You will keep crying.
You don't let us talk.
You don't give us time.
You will keep saying, oh, you don't debate
Aqeedah.
You don't debate Wafaa tul Masih.
You don't debate Khatm-un-Nabuwa.
Why are you going to Mirza?
Why are you going to Mirza?
What about those Kuffar who were attacking the
prophet of Islam?
You're behaving like them.
Okay.
All these things.
You know what?
They're not doing anything.
They are not doing anything.
We're not stopping.
We're not stopping.
We've been here discussing that for eight hours.
We've been discussing those prophecies for six hours
and 41 minutes.
So if you have noticed, if you have
noticed throughout this conversation, throughout this six hour
or nearly seven hours of stream, we have
been using the Quran and Hadith against you,
but you're so dumb.
Sorry.
I haven't heard a single Quranic ayat from
you.
Other than the ones we've quoted.
You did not.
I'll tell you.
I'll tell you the ones I used.
I can give you them now, right now.
Okay.
No, no need.
Let's move on.
Usama, this will not end.
Yeah.
I'm not to be honest.
You can let Usama go.
You can let Usama go.
No problem.
Thank you very much Usama.
Let's do it right now.
Don't run.
Don't run.
Yeah, go on Imtiaz.
Imtiaz, don't run.
Let's do it.
Sorry?
Carry on.
Carry on.
Imtiaz, let's run.
Let's run.
Okay.
Okay.
Listen brother.
Okay.
Okay.
Listen brother.
Okay.
First of all, first of all, one thing
is being said by many of them.
They said that, oh, why are you discussing
these prophecies?
Usama, please listen very carefully.
I have the quotation.
Mirza Sahib said, I have given three prophecies
concerning three nations.
Number one, prophecy of Lekhram for the Hindus.
All the Hindus covered in this prophecy.
The prophecy of Abdullah Atam for all the
Christians.
And guess what?
The prophecy of Mohammadi Begum for the Muslims,
non-Ahmadis.
Okay, brother?
So these three prophecies, and guess what?
I have read Mirza's book.
I don't want to make a big claim,
but I can tell you sometimes 16, 17
hours a day.
Okay?
My brother, these books are on my fingertips.
Okay?
Mirza Sahib has spent 50% of his
literature on these three prophecies.
50% of his literature.
Okay?
Whichever book you open, pages after pages.
And you say these are not important.
That's one point.
Second point.
Okay.
Alhamdulillah, I don't want to be a Khabib,
but I have finished your boy, Razi.
I have given him a challenge, and I
repeat my challenge.
Razi can never come in front of me
to discuss the research of the Khulafa that
Mirza was born in 1835.
I want to repeat my challenge.
Your boy is finished.
Okay, brothers?
Now, second thing, very important.
Now I'm going to finish Usama as well.
Okay?
Usama said that, why don't you discuss the
Aqeedah, the belief?
Guess what?
Give me the time and date.
I am going to discuss with you.
Listen, listen, listen.
I'm going to discuss with you the Aqeedah
of Zilli and Buruzi Nabi.
We are going to focus on the Quran.
From the Quran, I will prove there is
no such thing as Zilli or Buruzi Nabi.
And you have to prove from the Quran
that there is such thing as Zilli and
Buruzi Nabi.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
We don't have time.
We don't have time.
Allow me to finish.
Allow me to finish my talk.
Okay?
Now.
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Don't stop him.
Don't stop him.
Come on.
The reason I said this, the reason I
said this, it has been like two, three
times that Ahmadis are giving us this thing
of, you don't discuss the Aqeedah.
Yes, but yes, but we are going to
discuss the archive and will begin with the
Akita of Zilli and buruzi No, this is
no forget the buruzi No, no, no forget
all that.
Tell me can there be a prophet after
Muhammad salallahu alaihi wa sallam.
Alright guys Thank you.
Do this.
Thanks a lot.
Let's move on.
Come on guys.
Okay, we'll be here all night.
Otherwise